Died Pretty - Stoneage Cinderella (1986)

[iloveknitting1]

toot sweet....

[iloveknitting1]

I MARRIED A GUY WHO WAS A ROADIE TO PORCELAIN BUS AND DIED PRETTY. I GAVE BIRTH TO A DAUGHTER WHO IS NOW 19 YEARS OLD AND LOVES DIED PRETTY. I WAS HER AGE WHEN I GOT MARRIED TO THEIR ROADIE. PENO HAD LONG BLACK HAIR. WHO EVER KNEW THAT WE WOULD GET OLD.....ITS REALLY FUCKING DEPRESSING

[iloveknitting1]

HER AGE

[pegasus7708]

Wow we used to go see this band all the time in and around Sydney.That was 20 years ago.....They were very entertaining.and nice guys.

[sydeston]

Ron Peno dancing pure bliss i could watch this guy for hours

[TheNousch]

It doesn´t get cooler than this! Love his moves - and musically speaking, they are all about quality. What a great, great song!

[pmam1968]

Reminds me a lot of The Go-Betweens, especially those chord progressions and the spoken-rather-than-sung vocal delivery. Great stuff.

[teanmazii]

drumer of died pretty in 2009 , Chris Welsh is now my Teacher in Thailand

[xxoxxsmash]

@teanmazii  great drummer

[noayhozay]

Hellvis, I agree 100% !

[noayhozay]

Obviously Bob Dylan was a major influence on the singer.

[HellvisHexley]

I'm convinced that this is probably the most perfect pop-rock song ever.

[HellvisHexley]

Thank you for this, nzoz. You're constantly introducing me to amazing Australian indie music that has fallen under the radar over here in the States.

[HellvisHexley]

@HellvisHexley Been listening to this song over and over and over this whole week. Still, I can't figure out all he's singing. Anyone have lyrics? I tried to transcribe, but some lines are just incomprehensible to my ear.

[iloveknitting1]

AMEN

[lyonslaforet]

I'm French and it's true that Died Pretty toured all over France during Autumn 1986. They even went to my town, Rouen.

One of the best Australian bands of all time!

[Foxswoop]

One of the best bands never to have made it big with one of the best songs never to be a hit. Top stuff!!!

[iloveknitting1]

THANK GOD THEY GOT THIS PERFORMANCE RECORDED

[iloveknitting1]

THIS IS JUST THE BEST

[admeer70]

One of the most underrated Australian bands of all time. Saw them every time they played in Melbourne between 86-88 and was NEVER disappointed. Everything they did up until "Lost" (88) was gold, especially early singles like "Out of The Unknown" and "Mirror Blues"-pure emotionally charged, angst-ridden power. Should've been huge worldwide, but then they wouldn't have been who they were. Sorry, Dylanesque as the vocal performance may be on this particular track, it's a one-off-Peno was UNIQUE!

[tamalamma]

Ron is amazing in this clip!

[youandyamum]

Rage. In French. Shit I couldn't dream of being that cool.

[nzoz1986]

@youandyamum

dude, i think they might have dragged this clip from the SBS vault...

[cfcuker]

@youandyamum I think you'll find it is Antoine de Caune announcing it, he was later went on to present Eurotrash etc. The Rage logo was just stuck on, not for any arty effect by the ABC.

[sweetttina666]

Interesting. A little Tall Tales and True, a little Dylan, a little Fixx,..

[tiggywalle]

He's channeling Bob Dylan. Can't believe no one else has commented on that.

[moevanvera]

This great group was essential for my growing up in music. Those drums! This is a very important song to me and Free Dirt is an amazing lp! All of it! Lost is very good too. Thanks for sharing! Hugs from Sardinia.

[diskochimp]

Love this!

[ShlomirBareket]

Ron Peno looks fantastic here. He looks like one of the serial killers out of a Dario Argento giallo movie (as does his brother Frank Brunetti) or a creepier Iggy Pop. Way cooler than those alcho/Paul fucken Kellys from the Drones!

[puppylover4ever]

Cool! :)

[drkatz33]

i don't suppose anyone would have the lyrics to this song?

[iloveknitting1]

wadh0007 should go and deconstruct his own nob

[iloveknitting1]

my ex-husband used to work for a band that often supported DP and so i used to see them a lot and 20 years later their music is still strong. now my daughter listens to them. i fucking love this band and i would love to see something for "Out of the Unknown" if anybody can find anything. what ever happened to Porcelain Bus??

[TheGuardianDemon]

Why the Hell did I think he was Hot?

[Papdog1]

Stumbled on this by accident - and glad I did!

[wadh0007]

deconstructive nobs!

[ajmcapital]

and the reason is?

[wadh0007]

@wadh0007 mmm i don't know why students of the cultural turn become so seduced by the language of poststructralism that they turn the domestic into unrecognisable trash with uncontrolled logorrhea.... i love died pretty but those comments about muecke are bollocks... (joetyer/gristletit comments)... maybe they are taking the piss - just a great band

[stropcooper]

A superb song by the best band of the 80's in Melbourne/Sydney. Go go Ronnie, Brett and co. The central club in Richmond, never rocked as well before or since!!

[joetyer]

Interesting aside, fact fans: Mueke has often been assigned as a punitive measure for literary students 'afflicted with the cancer of literalism'. Mueke's works act as a painful, stern, yet ultimately efficacious corrective to such dangerous tendencies. However, it's often joked that Mueke's 'cure for cancer' comes at the cost of reading him backwards: i.e., Mueke becomes 'KeMue, a phonetic cousin to chemo, itself the truncated version of the word 'chemotherapy'. His reply? 'No comme(a)nt'.

[GristleTit]

Interesting aside you say. Those amongst us whose readings of Mueke are but cursory are inclined towards the phallacious hegemonic priviledging of what at first appear interesting A-sides, relegating the less instantaneously rewarding B-sides outside the symbolic order, thereby affording them the status of a subaltern other. In the spirit of post-colonialism, Died Pretty actively deconstructed (in a de re sense) the very grounds for this dichotomy, embracing the CD single. Meuke would be proud.

[joetyer]

Mueke famously deconstructed himself, shortly before attempting, unsuccessfully, as it happens, to textually deconstruct an actual contruction site, which he claimed was 'a site of construction'. Inevitably, he came to the conclusion that, via 'Mueke', therefore 'moo-key', therefore 'cows both transcend, and are transcended by onomatapoeic language', therefore 'milk is displaced cow' to his breathtaking claim that 'Dairy products liquefy textual practices in their cow(ardly) domination'.

[joetyer]

Again, drill down further with the flinty blade of Mukean deconstruction, and your critique of my assertions unspools limply like so many displaced homologisms. When you privilege the term 'meta' currency, you are simply placing an egegious premium upon your own agency..to whit: 'meta', i.e. 'me, ta!', a coy appropriation of Australian idiom dragooned in service of your underhand theoretical moves. To your 'me, ta!', I counter with a 'you...na'! I resist your overdetermined chauvinism.

[GristleTit]

Joetyer, your move to a meta-currency is premature, as the play of différance never culminates in a transcendental signifier that confers meaning upon all signs. Even the guys in Died Pretty know that the move to a meta-currency before any such culmination has taken place is a theoretically naive move in any post-Lacanian discursive undertaking. When Mueke says we need a hypertextual theory of theory, an elucidation of the absence that facilitates all presence, he isn't joking you know. Sheesh!

[joetyer]

or Or OR..counter-intuitively, does its very 'not-having-currency-ness inaugurate a meta-currency with which it can articulate its' own redundancy? One thing's for sure, dudes..when I die, I want to Die Mueke.

[joetyer]

FInal point: I know I run the risk of quoting Mueke will bring charges of over-familiarisation. Who doesn't quote Mueke? Theorietical pedant time: whenever Mueke talks, isn't he always already quoting Mueke? Mueke is never murky in his assertions, and, as we all know, when Mueke asserts, you'd better assent. Deconstructing that last sentence in typical Muekean fashion, 'assent', or 'a cent' is not even in Australian currency anymore, and therefore has no currency.

[joetyer]

In relation to this song. It's profound, dudes. And don't try to tell me that, even in the mid-80's, this band was unaware of Mueke.

[joetyer]

Steven Mueke asserts in his wildly influential book 'Extrapolating the Never-Never: (dis(concerting to the fascist White elite)tancing Indigenous spatial/temporal Aurora Bor(ing only to the theoretically naive proles)ealises in an hyper(tinent to the entire world) heteroglossic Other which is something Other than Other', the term 'Stoneage' is contested, and inherently unstable. Much like Mueke must be, to churn out such rot, come to think of it. But think of the implications of his argument .

[ogdog123]

Hectar Crawford, you are a jerk! Died Pretty were unique and dared to be different. Plenty of great tracks that still stand up well today.

[oscartedmiles]

Doughboy Hollow is a classic album. No fillers, all great songs. Ron and Brett were (are?) brilliant combination.

[jbhighfive]

bullocks yeah boo to all of you dissers, Died Pretty were an awesome band..what was the alternative at the time? Oh zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz INXS zzzzzzzzzzz hell and the uncles left their singer in a car parkj??

[HectarCrawford]

This song is fantastic. I was hoping they'd have others like it, but alas, everything else they did was rubbish.

[nzoz1986]

Take a few years to grow up and then check them out.... you've probably have not reached the value of maturity, which is essential when it comes to listening to a group like this.

[HectarCrawford]

Nup, I've shopped around and its all shit. How can you get things really right once and once only? Even the other singles of the same period in their career are shit. This has it all, and its all they've got.

[ajmcapital]

you have got no idea.........really you speak shit.

free dirt

[HectarCrawford]

I reiterate, everything Died Pretty ever did, with the exception of this song, is shit.

[ugenesfun]

@nzoz1986

argh dont do that.

i like Died Pretty's stuff and im 18.

i hate it when people try and put maturity onto music. sure it applies when comparing a miley cyrus fan to a fan of a band like this, but just because someone doesnt like a band doesnt mean they dont have a high level of musical maturity.

its taste man

[kieran9093]

Haha u chump. Everybody moves is their best song. Followed by everything they did before Doughnut!

[Cocrteau3]

@HectarCrawford

I fully agree with nzoz1986. They were, and remain, one of the greatest groups of the 80s and had a stellar set of songs!

[suckerdwsp316]

this is awesome. plain and simple.

[retinasoup]

i ran into bad luck when witnessing this band on two occasions. once, they were supporting some shitty flavour of the month band and DP's dulcet tones allured me. unfortunately I arrived too late as the bass player broke a string. they were forced to end the set all too quickly. Anyway, the next time I witnessed DP was at a BDO in Melbourne. The mixer ruined it for me. DP are definitely one of the most talented Aussie bands out there and deserved better.

[iHearMotion]

Died Pretty were fucking brilliant at this time. Remember seeing them at all the local Sydney venues.. Petersham Inn, Kardomah Cafe, etc. And then they supported Jesus & Mary Chain at Enmore Theatre and totally blew the brits off stage!!

[scorpiotatt]

saw them on the first first trip to melbourne at the seaview "crystal" ballroom and someone threw a sandwich at peno hahah!anyone remember those bloody awful sandwiches the ballroom used to serve. DP were excellent and i went the next night to the venetian to see them.

[ippolitonievo]

god, peno is fucking ugly

[cheeseepeas]

isn't he! is he the ugliest frontman ever?!

....and yet strangely alluring... :o

[floriego7]

i reckon only iggy pop (quite similar with the manic dancing style) could rival old ron in the looks department hehe hehe. GREAT band.

[outnumberedbysheep]

They are cool as fuck even when they mime

[ruoldenuff]

2 right mate!

[outnumberedbysheep]

at the time this band was untouchable. This song is timeless

[columnshift]

Great song - love this band! I had this on video many moons ago. Great to see it again.

[drkatz33]

Ron looks off his chops.... his miming isn't exactly first class :-) but one of my favourite DP songs...thanks

[chrismoff17]

Not quite as good as 'Out of the Unknown' but still class!

[maebrazil]

awesome.

[gamcall]

Woo hoo! How groovy were they then?

[nzoz1986]

Thank you for the encouraging words. I'll put more of an effort in completing nzoz1986.

[StevOwen]

A fine post. Still sounds great...the soundtrack to many a wayward night at the Trade. Good to see them reforming for the Sydney Festival, if for only one night.

[mediapuzzle]

brett - wheres ya leather jacket mate??

[shorn70]

fantastic song, that 45 and the 45 I still have of Screaming Tribesmen's Igloo are amongst my most prized possessions

[shorn70]

i still have this 45 somewhere