@slowpokecity sorry correct me the music industry makes fans they dont make real guerrilla people..thats why i am staring a new music genre, fuck the fans and jumping up and down id rather make a difference , sorry if you like the music but see the forest for the tree's have a good jump
@ashtweth this band made a difference and had more of an effect on american society (and the world) then you could ever dream to. "forgetting society is fucking them ass" is all these people could do. also "the music industry" has nothing to do with this genre, hardcore punk was and never will be profitable thus is useless to record companies. you have a lot to learn, i can already guess you're a rich kid who watched zeitgiest and thinks hes jesus. fuck off you know nothing about the world.
@slowpokecity its not all they could do, your a fool to believe that, and one your self get off your kneees and stop jumping up and down to the slave trade , there is a new music genre coming, one i am participating in, to quell the music industry and to not make fans like this, if you think that you are that be well
@ashtweth what genre is this? i wish you all the best of luck with it i really do, but there's no doubt you owe something directly or indirectly to hardcore, hip-hop,jazz or any one of these "rebel" genres. if it wasn't for them you wouldn't think of music as something you could even approach in the first place.
@slowpokecity A guerrilla genre that does not participate in the music industry, it s also does activism and fans that listen actually partake in the activities, its new, no more details yet, i can appreciate their talent, but their influence to me is non existent, i came from earlier punk later harder like Amibex, before Amibex Bathory, and other earlier punk bands with the lyrics being more dense and thought provoking, 2 me the music is the sounds, lyrics AND THEMES. I knw U enjoy their music
Don't you guys ever get tired of proving exactly why this scene died? Let's argue whether it's "punk" or "hardcore." Let's call things "gay." Let's debate "moshing,"" thrashing," "slamming" and "two-stepping." Let's misunderstand the lyrics and the intention to the point of sounding utterly moronic.
alright ... am i the only one that thinks he definitely says "kill that faggot" at the end of every verse.. i know ian mackeye was against violence against homosexuals and he wrote sorta sarcastic lyrics...
agreed. it's about homophobia and censorship mostly. mackaye is against homophobia. Look at Look back and laugh. Seen in a popular way, it's about two friends who grow apart. In the sense of the "friendship song." it's about two men in a sexual relationship who move apart (for some unknown reason..possibly because somebody found out about the relationship).
@RJN88420 Actually, the lyrics are "Saw you in a mag / Kissing a man / Smoking a fag / Kissing a man". WIRE is a british punk band from the 70s, and "fag" is British slang for "cigarette". So, actually he's just saying "I saw you in a magazine smoking a cigarette". Also, "who" the person is in the song is never stated. It could be a woman kissing a man, but even if it were man kissing a man, the lyrics still wouldn't be homophobic.
@RJN88420@RandyRejekt - It's a WIRE song by Colin Newman and Colin sang: "Saw you in a mag, kissing a man... Smoking a fag, kissing a man. Saw you in a mag, kissing a fag." Translation to American English = "I saw a photograph of you in a magazine smoking a cigarette and kissing a man. Smoking a cigarette, kissing a man. I saw you in a magazine kissing a cigarette."
i was at that show. it was great...it was in a real bad section and the local gang "The Ghetto Riders" came to check it out and see if it was cool or not. Ian got hit by a car right in front of me and ran over and hung on me trying not to pass out...he was in some serious pain. went to the hospital and refused any medication (those straight edgers) and came and played a great set with puffy wounds on his head.
It was wierd, It was right next to the club + Ian was doing something in thier tour van or something + it was just a normal scene + suddenly you heard crashes + this big ass car drives off + Ian comes my way and is hanging on me. It was a small street and I think some local must of been drunk and just rammed parked cars and Ian accidently. It was over so quick I dont think anyone really knows what happened. I thought Ian was seriously hurt...but he still played. Guess he really needed the $ LOL!
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This is not old school hardcore punk .... this is not punk ... this is a pastiche from a band that was way too late and missed the point ..... i feel sorry for these sad bastards, the band and the crowd ! ...... all pointless, all garbage ......
For directions to REAL punk see EATER, SWELL MAPS, EARLY BANSHEES, SUBWAY SECT, THE ADVERTS, THE FALL, AND EARLY BUZZCOCKS, OH THROW IN SOME SLAUGHTER AND THE DOGS TOO ! guarantee you wont listen to this Minor threat shite again ...
first of all, fuck you, you obviously have missed the point of hardcore and minor threat,and you would know hardcore if it fucking punched you in your fucking fat mouth, the point of hardcore was to be raw and take all that shit you wanted from punk and elevated it to a much higher level so before you run your mouth about shit you dont really know get your fucking facts straight! FUCK YOU!
This is old school HARDCORE punk moron. The bands you named are all great and they are all old school PUNK. learn your history. Not one of those bands you named are Hardcore. And you forgot WIRE.
It will never be this hardcore ever again, everybody knows too much now
moshmartyr 1 month ago 2
I love the crowds blatant disregard for their own safety. They don't give a fuck.
sonetlumiere12345678 5 months ago
If you are still lost and or wandering in search of Punk, look within.
On a similar note,
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Here we are, come and get it.
nazaxprime 8 months ago
looks like a bunch of mindless twats forgetting society is fucking them in the ass
ashtweth 11 months ago
@ashtweth you absolute moron
slowpokecity 10 months ago
@slowpokecity sorry correct me the music industry makes fans they dont make real guerrilla people..thats why i am staring a new music genre, fuck the fans and jumping up and down id rather make a difference , sorry if you like the music but see the forest for the tree's have a good jump
ashtweth 10 months ago
@ashtweth this band made a difference and had more of an effect on american society (and the world) then you could ever dream to. "forgetting society is fucking them ass" is all these people could do. also "the music industry" has nothing to do with this genre, hardcore punk was and never will be profitable thus is useless to record companies. you have a lot to learn, i can already guess you're a rich kid who watched zeitgiest and thinks hes jesus. fuck off you know nothing about the world.
slowpokecity 10 months ago
@slowpokecity its not all they could do, your a fool to believe that, and one your self get off your kneees and stop jumping up and down to the slave trade , there is a new music genre coming, one i am participating in, to quell the music industry and to not make fans like this, if you think that you are that be well
ashtweth 10 months ago
@ashtweth what genre is this? i wish you all the best of luck with it i really do, but there's no doubt you owe something directly or indirectly to hardcore, hip-hop,jazz or any one of these "rebel" genres. if it wasn't for them you wouldn't think of music as something you could even approach in the first place.
slowpokecity 10 months ago
@slowpokecity A guerrilla genre that does not participate in the music industry, it s also does activism and fans that listen actually partake in the activities, its new, no more details yet, i can appreciate their talent, but their influence to me is non existent, i came from earlier punk later harder like Amibex, before Amibex Bathory, and other earlier punk bands with the lyrics being more dense and thought provoking, 2 me the music is the sounds, lyrics AND THEMES. I knw U enjoy their music
ashtweth 10 months ago
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evolooshion 9 months ago
i feel sorry for the guy in the white t-shirt at 0:18 ;)
Reibadatschi 1 year ago
fucking racket.
omardude39 1 year ago
(FYI, for those unable to search beyond YouTube, a "fag" is British slang for cigarette. Check the original by Wire, equally awesome.)
saw you in a mag
kissing a man
saw you in a mag
kissing a man
smoking a fag
kissing a man
saw you in a mag
kissing a man yeah
muddybrookrambler 1 year ago
looks soo fun
CollieLover23 2 years ago
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Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous massacre of a fantastic song. Morons!
ifantwentythree 2 years ago
Don't you guys ever get tired of proving exactly why this scene died? Let's argue whether it's "punk" or "hardcore." Let's call things "gay." Let's debate "moshing,"" thrashing," "slamming" and "two-stepping." Let's misunderstand the lyrics and the intention to the point of sounding utterly moronic.
RIP Good Old Days.
Now let's move on.
ERaddock 2 years ago 21
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McHorrorshow 2 years ago
agree
it's everywere on youtube and i'm sick off it
McHorrorshow 2 years ago
@ERaddock Meh, Ignore them, it only died in your heart.
Punk is alive and well in me, like that grain of sand in the never ending story. It is up to me to show you, that is still there.
nazaxprime 8 months ago
So gay how everyone calls slam dancing, two stepping, fucking faggets!
Demonoftheforrest 2 years ago
Eh... who cares what it's called
It's fucking awesome in general!
=P
PraiseofDeath92 1 year ago
is it me, or could everyone two step back then. haha. its funny cause everyone sucks now
XTYLERBONDX 2 years ago
Haha!
Agreed!
XD
All people do nowadays is run into people and look like idiots
PraiseofDeath92 1 year ago
It's such a shame that I'll never see shows like that. I got stuck with the tough guy bullshit crowds.
ick9192 2 years ago 16
@ick9192 No you didn't. There is always music out there like this. Just gotta look for it.
RingsOfOnion 1 year ago
this is FUN
Syndikati 2 years ago
whats with everybody thinking its a gay song???? thats GAY!
monkeykrueger 2 years ago 2
12xu, splitsecond, crowd explodes in excitment, wish i could have been there
qazlijygrdwa 2 years ago
I doubt Ian would say kill the faggot but in the wire song
It's Saw you in a mag
kissing a man
saw you in a mag
kissing a man
saw you in a mag
kissing a man
saw you in a mag
kissing a man
kissing a man yeah
navajo5150 2 years ago
alright ... am i the only one that thinks he definitely says "kill that faggot" at the end of every verse.. i know ian mackeye was against violence against homosexuals and he wrote sorta sarcastic lyrics...
RJN88420 3 years ago
it's a WIRE song and it says "kissing a faggot"
RandyRejekt 3 years ago 3
ahh.. makes sense.. i know it was a cover from an older group.. i just didnt know what one... thanks
RJN88420 3 years ago
there is a line in the song "smoking a fag" (british slang for cigarette) but the line at the end of each verse is "kissing a man, GO"
mrblue99 2 years ago 2
@RandyRejekt
agreed. it's about homophobia and censorship mostly. mackaye is against homophobia. Look at Look back and laugh. Seen in a popular way, it's about two friends who grow apart. In the sense of the "friendship song." it's about two men in a sexual relationship who move apart (for some unknown reason..possibly because somebody found out about the relationship).
kbizzle999 1 year ago
@RandyRejekt Almost. Saw you in a mag, kissing a man, saw you in a mag, smoking a fag. But definitely not anti-queer lyrics.
RingsOfOnion 1 year ago 3
@RandyRejekt In every verse the lyrics say "smoking a fag," like a cigarette, but at the end of every verse it says "kissing a man, yeah"
IntoTheWaysideV 1 month ago
@RJN88420 Actually, the lyrics are "Saw you in a mag / Kissing a man / Smoking a fag / Kissing a man". WIRE is a british punk band from the 70s, and "fag" is British slang for "cigarette". So, actually he's just saying "I saw you in a magazine smoking a cigarette". Also, "who" the person is in the song is never stated. It could be a woman kissing a man, but even if it were man kissing a man, the lyrics still wouldn't be homophobic.
drslobulus 7 months ago 3
@RJN88420 @RandyRejekt - It's a WIRE song by Colin Newman and Colin sang: "Saw you in a mag, kissing a man... Smoking a fag, kissing a man. Saw you in a mag, kissing a fag." Translation to American English = "I saw a photograph of you in a magazine smoking a cigarette and kissing a man. Smoking a cigarette, kissing a man. I saw you in a magazine kissing a cigarette."
Satyagrahaha 2 months ago
Beautiful!! I wish could be there
Fatimadasilva1 3 years ago 3
on the one hand, i gotta give it that they tried to bring wire to the kids, but on the other hand this is a fucking travesty.
AARONRULES666 3 years ago
I'm a fairly big fan of Wire's Pink Flag, and I think this is a grand cover. So much raw energy. That's just my two cents, though.
Fayceee 2 years ago
pink flag is a great album. my favorite songs are 12xu and mannequin
RATTTHEPUNK 2 years ago
eeeer.... It's fucking Wire song!!@!
"Saw you in a van kissing a man...Want TO EAT YOU!"
monkeykrueger 3 years ago
HarDCore:
No stage, no performers, no 4th Wall. The audience was the band was the audience. Total annihilation of the performance construct.
It's a shame it only lasted 2 years.
leeraconteur 3 years ago
Because no hardcore ever happened again.
WillIsSoAwesome 3 years ago
What only lasted 2 years? I hope you don't mean quality music coming out of DC.
thedesiresymposium 3 years ago
Woo it looks lots of fun, they dont have school concerts like that these days.
hehe :D
Zeggle 3 years ago
I just want to say that your all a bunch of drunk ol' bastards! steph
sweetiesteph23 3 years ago
yeah, unfortunately :(
nader112389 3 years ago
i was at that show. it was great...it was in a real bad section and the local gang "The Ghetto Riders" came to check it out and see if it was cool or not. Ian got hit by a car right in front of me and ran over and hung on me trying not to pass out...he was in some serious pain. went to the hospital and refused any medication (those straight edgers) and came and played a great set with puffy wounds on his head.
TheCommanders 3 years ago
Nice reminiscence Phil. How weird to 'run into you' here.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
get the fuck out of here, how did he get hit
elementx2z 3 years ago
It was wierd, It was right next to the club + Ian was doing something in thier tour van or something + it was just a normal scene + suddenly you heard crashes + this big ass car drives off + Ian comes my way and is hanging on me. It was a small street and I think some local must of been drunk and just rammed parked cars and Ian accidently. It was over so quick I dont think anyone really knows what happened. I thought Ian was seriously hurt...but he still played. Guess he really needed the $ LOL!
PhilCommander2 3 years ago
dude thats so insane. it seems like that cooincidence isnt possible..but it happened to you..so i gues it is possible haha
RATTTHEPUNK 2 years ago
its alright, but the original is so much better
Gabba0Gabba0Hey 3 years ago
these guys are one of the best hardcore grupe in the world. You suck. Fucj you all
asskirk 3 years ago 3
these guys are one of the best hardcore grupe in the world. You suck. Fucj you all
asskirk 3 years ago
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who are these guy they sux
Avonbmx2010 3 years ago
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This is not old school hardcore punk .... this is not punk ... this is a pastiche from a band that was way too late and missed the point ..... i feel sorry for these sad bastards, the band and the crowd ! ...... all pointless, all garbage ......
For directions to REAL punk see EATER, SWELL MAPS, EARLY BANSHEES, SUBWAY SECT, THE ADVERTS, THE FALL, AND EARLY BUZZCOCKS, OH THROW IN SOME SLAUGHTER AND THE DOGS TOO ! guarantee you wont listen to this Minor threat shite again ...
paulo7070 3 years ago
Shut up man!!! This is some great punk!
BeatleFan93 3 years ago
this is hardcore, not punk.
ikey303 3 years ago
first of all, fuck you, you obviously have missed the point of hardcore and minor threat,and you would know hardcore if it fucking punched you in your fucking fat mouth, the point of hardcore was to be raw and take all that shit you wanted from punk and elevated it to a much higher level so before you run your mouth about shit you dont really know get your fucking facts straight! FUCK YOU!
xdefinex 3 years ago
This is old school HARDCORE punk moron. The bands you named are all great and they are all old school PUNK. learn your history. Not one of those bands you named are Hardcore. And you forgot WIRE.
PhilCommander2 3 years ago 2
danae says:
THIS IS THE BEST THING EVAR.
just like "lolwut???"
yeah i told everybody on my blog about this too it is amazing.
pushinginthehallway 3 years ago
utter chaos! this is what punk is. PERIOD.
willywonka091 3 years ago
this is the craziest i have ever seen a crowd go.
xrawalmondbutterx 3 years ago
got this on dvd. great gig right here. ssd and agnostic from also played this.
eatdogs 3 years ago
Real old school hardcore punk!
limmer89 4 years ago 2
c'mon lads, turn it up!
powelldinho 4 years ago
Flex your head?
rugshort 4 years ago 2
henry rollins no final do video?
brunnofdo 4 years ago
Too slow.
antihostile 4 years ago
lol
NOCASHKILLAZ 4 years ago
oh shit... this footage is right after Ian got hit by a car. He played this show minutes after
Denticle 5 years ago