GRITtv: Chris Hedges on our Moral Collapse

[kohokid100]

steeelers!!!!!



[joecoool100]

All of this information, and all of us on here awake to the truth and still only 11 thousand hits. We have to make it our mission to wake up our friends, brothers, and others......this is a fight for our very lives....prepare, prepare, prepare. Lets not forget our humanity to each other.

[thesparitan]

@TaoPiet Hear hear, it was fun while it lasted.

[simichbrau]

@MrAlienlovechild No, I was not aware of that. Outside of having read one of her novels, I have not really read much by or about this very strange prostitute of the moneyed elite.

[simichbrau]

Oh, and how interesting. I've since learned that even the douche, Ayn Rand, received Social Security and Medicare in her later years. Can you spell "hypocrite"?

[wareq]

@MrAlienlovechild

Amen.

[swordsintopens]

If capitalism is based on free markets, then you could never have CEOs and shareholders funneling millions of dollars away from a company without someone else creating a company that didn't do that and putting the first company out of business. Don't fall for their guilt trip bullshit. They only maintain their system by lying and cheating everybody.

[wadehwallace]

Great interview! also, Laura Flanders is beautiful

[simichbrau]

Ayn Rand was the spawn of Satan.

Has anyone ever noticed that the best way to get yourself killed is to attack the rich man's money schemes? Even Jesus wasn't in their cross-hairs until He overthrew the tables of the money changers.

[richracer1]

Obama is just the clean up man, who carrys the batton for the Bush, Clinton and the Global Corporate Elite, and surly, as a black man, will take the blame, instead of a totally corrupt Congress and Supreme Court.

[fallenempireoverdrve]

@richracer1 good point

[CosmosPrivateer]

Sell the government owned stock and pay our debt off.

[mrgimp420]

Oh boo hoo. "Americas Collapsing! Americas Collapsing!" We westerners have got to be the most spoiled pieces of shit on the planet. If world GDP were divided equally, every person would receive about 9,000 a year. Americans have an average GDP of 46,000 per year. We're not collapsing just because people that once made $1 a day are now making $2 a day. All these self absorbed comments coming from the richest peasants in the world is sickening. Read a book, learn about real suffering.

[phildirt3]

@mrgimp420 good point but the corporate ripoffs still arent right

[iorixs]

it's the africanization of western civilization, or the collapse of moral society. the whole world seems to be following africa in economic, social and moral collapse

[landlogger]

Even Chris doesn't seem to get that the crooks have always know exactly what they are doing and creating. That is the fear part of this mess. The question is , what is their end game and then try to deal with that. Is it as simple as just ripping off money I'm afraid not. Chris says they don't care about people suffering. True! This is a psychopathic regime and caring for others is not their game. No one is going to take care of you folks. It's up to you So best get going now.

[missopinionated1976]

@landlogger

No-one wants people to 'take care of them" but we want them to abide by the law and ethical considerations and to face consequences when they don't.

[landlogger]

@missopinionated1976 regards "take care of them" I am meaning a government that cares about helping folks to get jobs. food to eat and a place to sleep. Basic thing we hire them for. NOT WARS!! thanks for the reply. I love Chris

[zoticus1]

The pursuit of shiny has always been central to mankind's desires.

For shiny gets you laid,this is the problem,woman accept the destructive characteristics of man.

Woman can change the world,just close your legs to assholes.

[sketch2k]

@zoticus1 Brilliant!

[GohanMH1]

@zoticus1

good point

[jhunted7667]

it's the mentality of the 1960's back to haunt us (if it feels right do it ) , first be unfaithful to your wife after that everything else becomes easy , stealing from the Government and us is a snap , the final straw was incest , when this is allowed without punishment then God will cast us into the fire , I'm afraid this has already occured because we are in collapse,

[zoticus1]

@jhunted7667

your a fool,

get a clue,america has always been rotten to the core,perhaps you dont know because your white and not a native american,black or any other minority.

The acceptance of evil in the pursuit of stuff is the legacy of man.

[jhunted7667]

@zoticus1 the legacy of man is to walk in the light of God , and not in the shadow of a corrupt Government and as God allows us to learn the hard way then we will obey his laws

[harrypalms1112]

It says a lot about America that they would even elect a black president. But. I don't think he's the man you wanted him to be. It's sad. Watching the election of Obama was inspiring but it's not enough just to elect a black president, he also has to actually "change" things. We are all in trouble.

[DjWellDressedMan]

Chris Hedges: The Liberal Class & Death of the Liberal Class? - TVO The Agenda - Oct.22, 2010 on YouTube. Serious chat if you vote, watch Hedges shred the sophistry and "useful idiots".

[CandianBear]

this is why we can't use data to show how unsustainable the entire system in the context of the ecology. it's insane... not only is it not sustainable under its own logic but it is literally killing the planet. great work guys.... i don't know what is going to happen when the piper comes to collect his pound of flesh- for we have no where to run- no where to move to.... we have to do something or we'll just watch ourselves slowly rot from the inside.

[Strefanash]

"Look to the future" means to hold no one accountable, it means to ignore the crimes that they may be done again.

The American Empire is falling under the weight of its own filth.

And Obama is entirely complicit. He is not the saviour of your country, he is but an empty suit

[phildirt3]

@Strefanash yep a talking head

[superheronumber1]

When are Americans going to do something about their country? When it's too late; when you are impoverished, the environment is wrecked (courtesy of Monsanto) and the world is shot up with depleted uranium? What are you gonna tell the world? "I was too busy with my job and watching Fox News", is this gonna be America's "We didn't know"?

[fortnightshowcase]

I meant NON enforcement of the Law

[fortnightshowcase]

The REAGAN regime did NOT do formal deregulation they did NOT enforcement of the Law.

The CLINTON regime was the one who removed 50 year old Wall Street regulations.

Blair removed the same from the City of London

On top of that 1 Trillion dollars sunk into the Bush/Blair Iraq occupation. After 7 years of which the average Iraqi family has 1 hour of electricity per day !!

3 years prior to the collapse the government of Lebanon made SubPrime racket illegal.

No such action in UK/USA.

[jhunted7667]

@fortnightshowcase what would you do if you wanted to systematicly bankrupt a country without anyone really knowing what was going on till it was too late , it's not like they created the debt all at once, I knew in the 70's when they took the ten commandments off the wall , one generation later , they see no right or wrong ,

you will know that we are finished if they legalize drugs and openly accept all the incest going on in this country, 

[zoticus1]

@jhunted7667

hahaha! If you believe that the ten commandments have any relevance on people being "good" your delirious. There have been MANY people who have done things in the name of "god".

Secondly, drugs do not make people any worse than they were from the onset.

Your talking without thinking,stop doing that.

[whereismybailouttv]

I used to be a regular reader of Hedge's Truth Dig columns. But lately, it's like what's the point?

There are only so many ways to say we're screwed. From a writers p.o.v, does he ever get frustrated writing esentially the same thing every week? I mean, a job right now is obviously better than no job. However, if he's so concerned how come he has no web site? For someone in his position to not have one is amazing to me.

[whereismybailouttv]

Has Hedges ever talked to Steve Keen?

[marimbadearco]

Hey Laura, aren't you in San Francisco -- how about a 49ers shirt?!

Better yet, the Oakland A's, whose owner is trying to run the club down to resell at higher price to San Jose.

[definemaybe]

getting BIG GOVERMENT off our back by REAGAN DEREGULATION until they failed, then its,. " oh forget the free-market" I 'm above the LAW

[achinoy]

grantsinmypants has got his brains in his pants. what a loser!!!!

[mikemmlj]

The Ayn Rand, Libertarian scheme has failed.

[plainPLAIDplain]

@mikemmlj

It's tragic that Rand is the face of Libertarianism. Her books are cultish crap. She got her start in Hollywood.

[thesparitan]

@mikemmlj well said.

[grantsinmypants2]

Spend a decade forcing companies to be less selfish... force them to contribute to Freddy, Fannie, the CRA, IRS, put up with inflation by the Fed, extortion by the unions, and every other tax and regulation under the sun and then, when the economy actually hurts as a resutl... the solution?

Blame them for not being altruistic enough. That they were still too selfish.

He's right, the problem is a moral problem. It's his morality which is the problem.

[KhagarBalugrak]

So predatory lending, supporting murder in Iraq and Afghanistan, defrauding investors and trashing the economy are just peachy by your standards.

[grantsinmypants2]

"Predatory lending" isn't a real thing. It's a made up term so that people can't shift the consequences of their irresponsibility onto others.

Any "innocents" who die in Iraq and Afghanistan are the victims of their governments - even if Americans kill them.

The private sector didn't defraud anyone, and it didn't trash the economy. It simply followed the government's social-engineering orders - under threat of penalty for not doing so.

[tristramshandy3]

the FBI investigation disagrees with your analysis.

[grantsinmypants2]

Of course they do.

[tristramshandy3]

if it's fannie and freddie that caused the collapse, as you state- why was bear sternes the first to collapse and why was that company over-leveraged at 30 to 1?

Interesting.

[grantsinmypants2]

Because profit isn't a luxury, but a necessity.

[tristramshandy3]

The notion that the govt forcing banks to lend to poor people brought on the collapse is not substantiated by any credible economist.

wall street built a house of cards on phony credit, over leveraged themselves, and then were bailed out by the taxpayers when everything fell apart.

Your trying to tell me an industry making billions in bonuses went broke because of poor people and regulation?

NOBODY buys that except hannity, Rush, and the other people working for the corporate interests.

[starmanskye]

In review: The neoliberal model of unrestrained capitalism, shadow gov. via corporatism, casino economics, 'free market' fundamentalism & globalization -- revealed to be an enormous corrupt fraud & manipulation, the idealization of greed, one unsustainable bubble after another based on the idiocy of borrowing our way out of debt. Obama is exposed as a coward lacky w/o the courage of conviction. Setting up the next-stage, corporate feudalism maintained by a brutal Police State. ENJOY your reward!

[EasyEs]

you sound very confused..how can a cooperate state be reconciled with unrestrained capitalism?

[DrunkMonk1]

Laura looking sexy in her Steelers gear, lol

good interview

[grEzyRyd3r]

Hedges : "He is dooming his Presidency".

Mr. Hedges is absolutely right.

It's going to be "one and done" for Obama and he will have nobody to blame but himself.