E havia razões sociológicas para o Porto ser assim.
Como há razões sociológicas (industriais,políticas etc.) que transformaram o "Porto" na cidade "rival" de Lisboa após o liberalismo no século XIX. mas é uma construção recente da história.
Era até Coimbra ou Évora nos séculos XV; XVI em relação a Lisboa, mas não no sentido actual, e nunca as cidades própriamente, mas mais nos senhores, Duques e sedes de poder. O Porto já era mt importante, mas nada "rival", mais parceiro e comercial.
@4435123 Sem te chatear mais com tantas respostas - e só para rematar. Nem quero apagar nada caro amigo - e não devemos quando é saudável e de vigor.
Fora do futebol é praticamente inexistente(pelo menos em Lisboa - na vida dos tralhadores e do homem comum e onde o pessoal tem todas as origens e preocupa-se com a sobrevivência). No futebol até é saudável desde que não haja violência nos Estádios ou fora deles - isso é domínio da lei.
N que m toca, retiro saudável interesse dste "debate". N entanto, qnto a Lisboa n o sei, porém, vem ao Porto e vês q existe bm para lá d desporto. Essa rivalidade persiste! Nas conversas ds "Aliados" e ds "31 d Janeiros", d típico homem comum, do velhote ds bancos d S.Lázaro e d Batalha. O sul n é odiado (pelo mns n sentido extremo d plvra), mas rapidamente s verifica q é ridicularizado fonte ds típicas depreciações nortenhas. É o "estrangeiro" com complexo de superioridade.
No entanto,o facto de ser construção "recente" ou pelo menos + recente d História, n justifica q hoje em dia não deva persistir só porque em tempos passados não existia. Tempos passados são isso mesmo, tempos passados. E hoje, bem, hoje a rivalidade persiste e insiste e graças ao desporto, incendeia-se ainda mais. Não é nada d mau e não é nada d bom. É apenas assim, existe e pronto. E, cm td o respeito, n será apenas 1 individuo cm espírito d unificador que a irá apagar.
Quandi 2 e mais(eram as regiões e regiões ou sub-regiões)
Em 1245(D. Sancho II - D. Afonso III guerra civil) , 1385 etc. nas lutas dinásticas o Porto era sempre o enclave a norte sempre ao lado de Lisboa e de ouros conselhos no Alentejo etc. e de algumas Ordens militares.(e mais enclave quase isolado a norte no segundo caso-1383-85), embora o Povo do Norte também estivesse com Avis mas amordaçado por senhores feudais e alguns Alcaides) .
Portugal is in majority R1b Y Cromossome (West European) but I agree that it is a multicukltural nation in a gene flow.(at a certain point)
Curiosity: some Berber N- African markers were found many in northen Portuguese and Galician female Mtdna lines. But they belive that didn´t came with Moors (relations or kidnaping), but in pre-historic times - a interesting mistery.
But is a mix of Celts-West Iberians, Jews, Moors, some Suevi and some minority of Italics and Phoenicians etc.
Good job with the video. Nonetheless, I must point out that little more than a minute is too short to tell the tale of a nation that has endured for nearly 1000 years. Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe and perhaps the first multicultural naton of it´s time. Amongst our ancestors are Celts, Pre-Celts, Romans, Suevi, Persians, Visigoths, Andaluz Moors and more. That said, np wonder we´re so good looking :)
@4435123 You know why Sancho I was the "Povoador" as his father. Or from 3 or 4 Povoados in Alentejo became hundreds to D. dinis; or why we share the surnames? Or where were The Aviz Bragança and the most part of the descendnets of ancient Portucalense nobility in Late Middle Ages: Around Estremoz, Vila Viçosa, Évora, Beja, Sintra, Abrantes. From the many ViceRoys, to Explorers, Navigators, Coutesans and People etc. after.
@4435123 A mada, sem inteções - mesmo areferência áquilo que li (marcadores genéticos era de leituras em sitios da especialidade) e só resaltava a variedade, mas também uma certa unidade de Portugal.
E acho que não é só 2, mas mais. Outra coisa: Rivalidade Porto Lisboa(concordo contigo)mas é do século XIX - antes disso eram gémias e aliadas burguesas por 700 anos(Comercio do Norte da Europa Medieval; Revolução de 1385, 1640 etc.) e sempre oposta regiões feudais.
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhore. os territorios conquistados por espanha estao todos mal com a droga no mexico os nazis na argentina dita.. na venezuela
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhores :nota ninguem é melhor que ninguem nem as maiores diferenças o podem negar
Were also the Engeniers, Generals and Captains - most born in European Portugal who also which fixed the Forts (today in Mato Grosso, Rondonia, Amazonas), as Beira, Coimbra, founding Manaus and other towns to the extremes in the D. João V, D. José I (Marquis of Pombal) and D. Maria gov. given the greatness to Brazilian territory.
And Local people as Diplomats like Gusmão a descent from Euro colonists were pivotal at the treaties. - the Uti-Possidetis also fruit of this royal plan.
Bandeirantes were very important, from european, to local born, to more european in origin in or more mixed indian people, include local or even people still born in Portugal, like Raposo Tavares or Pedro Teixeira(this one outside of São Paulo cicle, from Belém and Maranhão) but with a life in Brazil.
@Luso515PorTuoGraal And the Bandeirantes were most local in the majority, or Sons of Açorianos(Borba Gato), Alentejanos, Portuguese northmen etc. or grandsons etc. , more European or more mixed, depends.
Guararapes were local victories, but also still with born European Generals (Barreto de Menezes - in fact born in Peru from his Portuguese Father and Mother in Adm. there) as and Henrique Dias(from Azores) a Mullato (mixed people not necessary were locals, could be born europeans), local matias de Albuquerque entire descent of Portuguese, Vidal de Negreiros, Dias and others, of white, indian, black, mixed blood.
E havia razões sociológicas para o Porto ser assim.
Como há razões sociológicas (industriais,políticas etc.) que transformaram o "Porto" na cidade "rival" de Lisboa após o liberalismo no século XIX. mas é uma construção recente da história.
Era até Coimbra ou Évora nos séculos XV; XVI em relação a Lisboa, mas não no sentido actual, e nunca as cidades própriamente, mas mais nos senhores, Duques e sedes de poder. O Porto já era mt importante, mas nada "rival", mais parceiro e comercial.
@4435123 Sem te chatear mais com tantas respostas - e só para rematar. Nem quero apagar nada caro amigo - e não devemos quando é saudável e de vigor.
Fora do futebol é praticamente inexistente(pelo menos em Lisboa - na vida dos tralhadores e do homem comum e onde o pessoal tem todas as origens e preocupa-se com a sobrevivência). No futebol até é saudável desde que não haja violência nos Estádios ou fora deles - isso é domínio da lei.
N que m toca, retiro saudável interesse dste "debate". N entanto, qnto a Lisboa n o sei, porém, vem ao Porto e vês q existe bm para lá d desporto. Essa rivalidade persiste! Nas conversas ds "Aliados" e ds "31 d Janeiros", d típico homem comum, do velhote ds bancos d S.Lázaro e d Batalha. O sul n é odiado (pelo mns n sentido extremo d plvra), mas rapidamente s verifica q é ridicularizado fonte ds típicas depreciações nortenhas. É o "estrangeiro" com complexo de superioridade.
No entanto,o facto de ser construção "recente" ou pelo menos + recente d História, n justifica q hoje em dia não deva persistir só porque em tempos passados não existia. Tempos passados são isso mesmo, tempos passados. E hoje, bem, hoje a rivalidade persiste e insiste e graças ao desporto, incendeia-se ainda mais. Não é nada d mau e não é nada d bom. É apenas assim, existe e pronto. E, cm td o respeito, n será apenas 1 individuo cm espírito d unificador que a irá apagar.
Quandi 2 e mais(eram as regiões e regiões ou sub-regiões)
Em 1245(D. Sancho II - D. Afonso III guerra civil) , 1385 etc. nas lutas dinásticas o Porto era sempre o enclave a norte sempre ao lado de Lisboa e de ouros conselhos no Alentejo etc. e de algumas Ordens militares.(e mais enclave quase isolado a norte no segundo caso-1383-85), embora o Povo do Norte também estivesse com Avis mas amordaçado por senhores feudais e alguns Alcaides) .
Portugal is in majority R1b Y Cromossome (West European) but I agree that it is a multicukltural nation in a gene flow.(at a certain point)
Curiosity: some Berber N- African markers were found many in northen Portuguese and Galician female Mtdna lines. But they belive that didn´t came with Moors (relations or kidnaping), but in pre-historic times - a interesting mistery.
But is a mix of Celts-West Iberians, Jews, Moors, some Suevi and some minority of Italics and Phoenicians etc.
Good job with the video. Nonetheless, I must point out that little more than a minute is too short to tell the tale of a nation that has endured for nearly 1000 years. Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe and perhaps the first multicultural naton of it´s time. Amongst our ancestors are Celts, Pre-Celts, Romans, Suevi, Persians, Visigoths, Andaluz Moors and more. That said, np wonder we´re so good looking :)
@4435123 You know why Sancho I was the "Povoador" as his father. Or from 3 or 4 Povoados in Alentejo became hundreds to D. dinis; or why we share the surnames? Or where were The Aviz Bragança and the most part of the descendnets of ancient Portucalense nobility in Late Middle Ages: Around Estremoz, Vila Viçosa, Évora, Beja, Sintra, Abrantes. From the many ViceRoys, to Explorers, Navigators, Coutesans and People etc. after.
@4435123 A mada, sem inteções - mesmo areferência áquilo que li (marcadores genéticos era de leituras em sitios da especialidade) e só resaltava a variedade, mas também uma certa unidade de Portugal.
E acho que não é só 2, mas mais. Outra coisa: Rivalidade Porto Lisboa(concordo contigo)mas é do século XIX - antes disso eram gémias e aliadas burguesas por 700 anos(Comercio do Norte da Europa Medieval; Revolução de 1385, 1640 etc.) e sempre oposta regiões feudais.
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhore. os territorios conquistados por espanha estao todos mal com a droga no mexico os nazis na argentina dita.. na venezuela
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhores :nota ninguem é melhor que ninguem nem as maiores diferenças o podem negar
Were also the Engeniers, Generals and Captains - most born in European Portugal who also which fixed the Forts (today in Mato Grosso, Rondonia, Amazonas), as Beira, Coimbra, founding Manaus and other towns to the extremes in the D. João V, D. José I (Marquis of Pombal) and D. Maria gov. given the greatness to Brazilian territory.
And Local people as Diplomats like Gusmão a descent from Euro colonists were pivotal at the treaties. - the Uti-Possidetis also fruit of this royal plan.
Bandeirantes were very important, from european, to local born, to more european in origin in or more mixed indian people, include local or even people still born in Portugal, like Raposo Tavares or Pedro Teixeira(this one outside of São Paulo cicle, from Belém and Maranhão) but with a life in Brazil.
@Luso515PorTuoGraal And the Bandeirantes were most local in the majority, or Sons of Açorianos(Borba Gato), Alentejanos, Portuguese northmen etc. or grandsons etc. , more European or more mixed, depends.
Guararapes were local victories, but also still with born European Generals (Barreto de Menezes - in fact born in Peru from his Portuguese Father and Mother in Adm. there) as and Henrique Dias(from Azores) a Mullato (mixed people not necessary were locals, could be born europeans), local matias de Albuquerque entire descent of Portuguese, Vidal de Negreiros, Dias and others, of white, indian, black, mixed blood.
Both european portuguese and brazilian portuguese (and african, asiatic portugueses from more the european one) are original portuguese. What is known is that the euro portuguese is more conservative in etymology (written words) and the brazilian portuguese is more conservative (it is believed) in some "sintaxe" and verbal ways and sentences - from XV, XVI, XVII Portuguese language, which is still very alive, strong and in expansion to the future.
@andregeo13 aah can you speak portuguese? have you heard all of them? my friend, in the world , exists a lot of countries that speak portuguese. africa, portugal, brasil, etc. and some of them are hard to understand but still being portuguese. well... anyways all that i want to mean is that the brazilian-portuguese accent is the real one between others. I cant say anything more,so... if you dont understand im sorry.
1 - Yes i do speak portuguese, and probably i have spoken to more portuguese speakers from our old colonies than you.
2 - And no. No, really i cant understand you because you make no sense at all. Specially when you say brasilian portuguese is the original portuguese. Thats just plain stupidity at its best.
3 - Regarding accents, ALL OF THEM ARE REAL... I ve never heard of a ficticious accent...
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@AkatsukiWeapons Tobacco and cocain were found in various ancient egyptian graves. The problem is that before 1492 both tobacco and cocain existed ONLY in south America, from where they are typical.
@AkatsukiWeapons I believe the Chinese only got as far as India & East Africa. The following dynasty recalled all ships and had them destroyed. This happened in the early 1400, before the Spaniards started their ocean-going exploration.
whichever way you look at it, ask yourself: is there anyone claiming rightfully to be generous when engaging as colonialist ? columbus wasn't the first to discover america. the vikings did too. they just didn't write about it. history is written by the winner always. so stay calm.
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There are a lot of narrow-minded people making a 'bad embassy' for Brazil and for Portugal. Human quality is not dependent on nationality, good and bad are everywhere. Let us just forget ignorance and choose good Portuguese and Brazilian friends. Portuguese is a planetary language, this is amazing, let us use it well.
people think... portugal gave the last colonie in 1999 and it was macau to china and thats why the chinese like the portuguese peolple becouse they are friends a long time ago almost 500 years... and the hatred of brazilians speaking bad of portugal, i dont now why, but they are becoming a powerhouse,YES but they forguet that portugal is the 3º country that invest more in brasil! they are what they are now becouse of the PORTUGAL!
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Portugal is one of the world's oldest, has appeared 400 years before the Kingdom of Spain. It was the first country to have an overseas empire. Portugal invented the caravel and developed techniques of cartography. Gave name of lands and capes around the world. Cristovão Colombo was Portuguese as Fernão Magalhães who proved the earth was round through an experience with boats.
Epah, isto deixa-me revoltado, vês a história do império espanhol 7 minutos, com menos merda do que nós, os Ingleses que passaram a vida a gamar o que era Português, os holandeses, franceses e italianos sempre a meter a mão também e só temos 1 minuto de video, caralho, nem sequer referiram que fomos os primeiros europeus a ter contacto com o Japão a China nada! não interessa são Portugueses não vale a pena fazermos um trabalho bem feito!
@ogojesus100 exactamente! Portugal trouxe inovação, ainda hoje descobrimos a verdadeira história agora existe a teoria de que Portugal já havia descoberto a Austrália!
Its funny how she did not only lie bout some details, but also "forgot" to mention many important things, I know it's just a resume, but that was not enough.
esta gaja é descendente moura. Que ironia, ela é q faze este video...falando sobre a raça que nos expulsamos e batalhamos contra durante tantos anos. Claro que n quero ser racista...so acho engraçado.
Ela fez o video de How to Speak Arabic, e How to Speak Albanian.
finaly a video with no brasilians,trowing dirty words to Portuguese people,maybe because is in english.pathetic intromissions full of hate and prejudice if not of inferiority complex and ignorance of some (enough) in Brazil,no education or just pure hate to spread in most sites on my homeland,I´m Proud of my country of the history,the people,the culture,i love my county.could we do or did better you bet we can,and is in that Nation with 850 years,up´s and down´s happened but we never give up!!!
@Luzitanpride What the fuck is wrong with you ?? The one full of hate here seems to be you. I am brazilian, and I never had any feeling of hate toward portuguese people. It is the opposite, all the portuguese I met were cool funny and very polite so I loved meeting them. Unfortunately there are lot of poor ignorant people in Brazil that know shit, should anyone listen to ignorant pricks sayings???? Just ignore these, because it is obvious they know shit.
@BartRamone not really. i am brasilian as well and you must admit that, as any other european country, portugal have a tendency of dislike towards foreigners. there is, in fact, some rivality between the two nations.
Sorry but the ones who throw hatred towards Portugal r the Brazillians. In fact, I don't even understand why. We didn't kill the natives when we colonized u, like d spanish did with d Aztecs; we had d most peacefull process of colonization, n were d first to abolished slavery. Portuguese though don't have all the same kind of mood. Travel south and they're just like any arrogant and antipathique european, travel up North and you'll find the most welcoming mood you'll ever receive.
@BartRamone not really. i am brasilian as well and you must admit that, as any other european country, portugal have a tendency of dislike towards foreigners. there is, in fact, some rivality between the two nations.
Sorry but the ones who throw hatred towards Portugal r the Brazillians. In fact, I don't even understand why. We didn't kill the natives when we colonized u, like d spanish did with d Aztecs; we had d most peacefull process of colonization, n were d first to abolished slavery. Portuguese though don't have all the same kind of mood. Travel south and they're just like any arrogant and antipathique european, travel up North and you'll find the most welcoming mood you'll ever receive.
Nice Video! I'd like to go to Portugal soon. Btw, stop that rivalry towards Spain. It's hard for me to take! We are not enemies anymore. We're just EU States members. That means we need the each other, specially in these dificult days for the euro and our economies. Cheers from Spain, ur ally and friend.
@AngelStratocaster FYI friend there´s no more rivalry betwen us as the varius rigions of spain.that rivalry wase feeded by the 2 dictatorships in the past, the boogy man after all did not exited,so you are in a united europe. if you talk about footbal or sports in general then you have same problemes but the rest is old new´s.we are brother in blood we share the same dna,also with the french and italians to,so long live spain friendshiph with portugal.latin mediteranic.withe race etnic iberic.
@Luzitanpride You forgot the romanian they're latin aswell and we're not really white there's a term for our skin colour i think it's like "olive skinned" ...
@AngelStratocaster Don't use the word ally i know we live in a modern world but don't use that word it disgusts me, no offense i don't have that hate for spain but the word ally is pushing the luck
@AngelStratocaster im portuguese and we hate spain for many reasons, but some of you are cool like you, but the most of the spanish think portugal is just one of theyre pronvices -.-
@delightfulRaven Im Spanish myself and I don't think spanish ppl think that u say, that's ridiculous. In fact, we do have a good perspective from u, like a friendly neighbour. My impression is that many portugese have a bad perception of Spain, and that's why I typed the original message u read. Cheers friend! And don't hate us because we don't hate u, trust me!! :)
@AngelStratocaster im gonna trust you and i will try to chance my opinion about Spain, you are alright thanks for me tell me that i really will respect more my neighbour ;)
@delightfulRaven That's good. Remember that youtube is full of trolls and ppl who insult just because they're not in the flesh, and think they're anonymous. In real, it's different. If u come to Spain no one would say anything bad about Portugal. Normal ppl are not jerks. :)
@AngelStratocaster im portuguese and we hate spain for many reasons, but some of you are cool like you, but the most of the spanish think portugal is just one of theyre pronvices -.-
@delightfulRaven Im Spanish myself and I don't think spanish ppl think that u say, that's ridiculous. In fact, we do have a good perspective from u, like a friendly neighbour. My impression is that many portugese have a bad perception of Spain, and that's why I typed the original message u read. Cheers friend! And don't hate us because we don't hate u, trust me!! :)
@AngelStratocaster im gonna trust you and i will try to chance my opinion about Spain, you are alright thanks for me tell me that i really will respect more my neighbour ;)
@delightfulRaven That's good. Remember that youtube is full of trolls and ppl who insult just because they're not in the flesh, and think they're anonymous. In real, it's different. If u come to Spain no one would say anything bad about Portugal. Normal ppl are not jerks. :)
Correct me if im wrong but you were saying that "spain" or any kingdom, allowed portugal to exist right? ...they said "yeah let them keep our lands! they deserve it poor them, lets be generous its christmas time!" dont u know afonso henriques fought against his own mother?
About the empire i just dont understand why Portugal was criticized for having an empire, and pressured to leave theyr colonies, and at the end, u see England and France (essentialy) still holding islands all around the world. But anyway we left them, is our fault.
i hate foreigners who comment portuguese history without knowing shit about it.About Brasil, that country has its actual huge size thanks to portuguese politics in colonial times. France, Holland, etc. tried to conquer Brasil after we took it and they were always beaten and expelled.We discovered the sea path to India and we were pionneers worldwide at costructing a global world. We dominated asian trade routes and nautical and geographical science, a country made of brave men and strong armadas
@Pedrodamota portugal was one of the greatest empire in europe and also was on the the european empires with the least national resources of manpower and land and even then was able to defeat the spanish crap and the gayfrench. long live portugal!!!
@carmonaPBC562 And the portuguese found the city of Nagazaki in Japan, this was new to me until last month. Another great achievement of the portuguese nation.
@carmonaPBC562 no lol, sorry my english, can't express myself good. I didn't want it to sound like a joke. I think it is so cool they found a city in japan. Portuguese are good explorers, merchants and brave warriors.
@Pedrodamota No shit ? You portuguese didn't do shit when the Dutch invaded us. We had to fight them and win them all by ourself ( Pernanbucam Sugar Cane owners) oh and by the way the size of our country is our merit. Ever heard of the Bandeirantes ? Do you wanna talk about the colonization of Sao Paulo ? I like portugal alot but you shouldn't talk about the history of a country you don't know.
@RaphaElBarrelLa But the Portuguese army was at war in Iberian Peninsula against Spain (was sitill the first powuer in world -altough in decay) The People were sread around the empire. The Man in India, Oman, Hormuz, Sry Lanhka, Indonesia, Moluccas, Macau, fighting the dutch, the Persians, the English, the Arabs and Omanites were also almost theirsefes. As in Brazil and Angola(reconquered by brazilians). At the time Portuguese in nationality, born in Europe or in Brazil.
@Pedrodamota I agree although i dont know too much the Portugese are unfortunatly very unknown theyre a great people & good friends with Britain throughout the centuries 2 be fair Portugals only strong areas were Goa Phillipines n Brasil cause the Dutch and British captured most of the other zones the Portugese had introduced but they were quite evil in how they did mass slavery n encouraged the Japanese 2execute all Dutchmen without trials. Also does portugal have a monarchy still?
you were the pioneers, but because of that fact, you were very brutal because you didnt knew how to handle big empires
And then Spain took over Portugal, ruined Brazil (it got to the dutch in that period, at least 34% of the settled land), and in that time, and shortly after that, Holland did so massively bash you out of Indonesia, Gold Coast and some Islands, and Ceylon, that you could never rise to so much power again.
i respect the port. empire, but they were not the best rulers
@blueboy921...what are talking about, you idiot? Spain NEVER took over Portugal...the Iberian Union was a mutual pact between both the Castillian & Portuguese crowns...once the Portuguese people decided the pact wasn't beneficial to them, they revolted, the Spaniards resisted, and it resulted in what's called the "Portuguese Restoration war", in which the Portuguese achieved their objective ...
@blueboy921...and yes the Dutch drove the Portuguese out of Indonesia, but the Portuguese not only thwarted Dutch attempts to colonize Brazil, but they prevented countless attempts by Frenchman, Spaniards, and Englishmen, too...again, THE PORTUGUESE EMPIRE WAS THE FIRST TRUE GLOBAL EMPIRE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD...deal with it, dude...
@blueboy921...your argument is redundant, you asshole...ALL empires fall from their top spot...the Portuguese Empire was no different from the rest, in that regard...but what the world is left with, is the profoundly important cultural legacy the Portuguese Empire left behind...
@conni70 you freak out again :P whats your problem, this is a normal discussion, and you call me asshole.. what is it, kid ? are you immature ? if not, discuss normally. And the culture Portugal left in India is gone. British culture replaced it by far. Indonesia is more dutch then portuguese. The only place where port. culture remained partly, is Brazil and the little East-Timore. But nearly every colony hated the portuguese, and tehy totally sucked in Angola and Mocambique... ;)
@blueboy921...again, you need a very basic history lesson...the Portuguese cultural legacy in India& Sri Lanka isn't as big as the British, but it's still felt in specific areas...just Google "Goa", you ass...also, in Sri Lanka one can find a bounty of Portuguese surnames in the population...also Indian cuisine is heavily influenced by the Portuguese, as the Portuguese first introduced chilies, tomatoes and potatoes to the Indian subcontinent...Vindaloo is also an adaptation of a Portuguese dish
@blueboy921...the Portuguese cultural legacy goes beyond the Indian subcontinent as Macau is also a culture in which the Portuguese and Cantonese cultures fused to create an interesting finished product...
i thought about mentioning macau, but its a small territory, so i thought it wasnt so important, but its true what you said, the dutch had it with Dechima also and it gave Europe Delfts Blauw.
Well, Portuguese are not known for being antipatic, at least the North of the country. I can admit that down south they're pretty cold assholes /there are exceptions of course).
Yeah and isolated for a very long time. US was populated by British n they r nothing alike, Brazil by us n we r nothing alike. If u're from down south, u must know r differences,it's like 2 different countries in mind n spirit. The rivalry between the capital from the North and the Capital from the South contributed 2 that, as Portuenses developed a very independent, working-class n nationalist (regionalist) spirit. N Lisbon it's gracefull, arrogant but more peacefull way.
@4435123 I born in Lisbon from Castro Daire and Tomar Lineage(North of Beira Alta - paternal and North of Ribatejo almost Beiras - Maternal), and I know the huge cultural and geographic differences, not 2, but 5 or 7 (to refer oly the Continent) or so.
But not the spirit or the People,but all this in my personal opinion. I respect your opinion.
And of course, in culture and architecture, the impact of Moorish civilization is bigger in the south(gradual is the word, not any rigid line).
Não é uma linha repentina, é claro. Mas eu tb n o disse dessa forma. Apenas referi a cidade do Porto, pois o seu estatuto de Invicta atribuído pela Rainha...bem, acho que nem preciso de te referir a razão. E aí é que eu quero chegar. Isto é, como pode ter uma cidade influência moura, se nem eles nem mais ninguém penetraram alguma vez na nossa cidade após a formação de Portugal. E o nome de Portugal vem de Portucalem, que derivou da Invicta, a cidade que deu o nome ao país.
@4435123 a norte do Douro a influência é puca e estabelecimentos foram pouquissimos. Agora durante cerca de 100 anos o Dominio do Califado de damasco e bagdade (desde 711) e depois do califado ibérico chegou a norte de Santiago de Compostela. E Porto fez parte, militarmente do território Mouro como tudo resto, ainda que tenha durado muito menos.
Exactamente, a tal diferença abismal encontra justificação na dita influência breve e fragmentada, da qual uma região como o Norte, geograficamente, socialmente, etc; "já nem se recorda" de existência tão curta e longínqua. Ao passo q n Sul do país já não se possa, muito pelo contrário, dizer o mesma. Em referência a outro coment, toda a razão, n tem, d facto, nada a ver cm o debate. Foi apenas 1 aparte relativo a um outro comentário q aqui escreveste.
@4435123 Quanto ao Decreto da Rainha D. maria, foi pelo Cerco de um Ano que os Liberais sofreram(Como seu pai lá cercado, d. Pedro IV) que a pôs no trono, vencendo D. Miguel (os Tradicionalistas). A guerra civil durou dois anos. E o Povo do Porto mereceu o prémio pela heroicidade ao lado dos liberais que ocuparam a cidade, mas havia muitos comandantes de Lisboa e sul, claro.
O Decreto foi por iniciativa do Almeida Garrett, natural da cidade a D. Maria II em 1835s. Está publicado.
E qual era a região d país q + s apoiava n ideologia tradicionalista?Q se opunha aos liberais e á sua "demência" (citando)?É claro q havia liberais d tda a prte, mas qm acabou pr resistir n interior ds "muralhas"?Quem comeu intestinos d porco (o q s tornou receita bastante agradável, devo dizer) e reservar carne pros soldados,cujas forças enfraqueciam?Q povo,msm após 1 tragédia ainda hj relembrada (Ponte ds Barcas),persistíu?N foram comandantes d Sul, nm Lisboetas, d certo.
@4435123 A entrega do dragão, timbre dos Reis de Portugal e a "Invicta" tem data e foi publicada por decreto e pedida por Garrett em Lisboa. Pelo cerco da guerra civil ocorrido em 1833.
No resto a região foi ocupada por Mouros (como parte da galiza) ainda que só por cerca de 100 anos. Consultar qualquer historiador ou bibliografia.
Portucale, sim é de Cale (Gale) hoje Gaia(e Porto) e provavelmente local da tribo Gallaeci da foz do Douro, e? Não propriamente a ver com este debate.
Com uma excepção eheheh(no caso da influência cultural Moura, maior a sul claro (porque mais tempo de ocupação) que é o Mafamude etc. para nomes de locais, povoados - em muito maior número no norte.
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hilletehnoob 2 weeks ago
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portugal IS SPAINS BIATCH
Abbadon380 1 month ago
@Abbadon380 We ain't dum or dump, that's the proof of difference. Spanish people are very jealous of us. Suck up.
papaotigo 1 month ago
@Abbadon380 Spain is Britain's ass
TheProjectblah 1 month ago
PORTUGAL!
MegaPerson2011 1 month ago
E havia razões sociológicas para o Porto ser assim.
Como há razões sociológicas (industriais,políticas etc.) que transformaram o "Porto" na cidade "rival" de Lisboa após o liberalismo no século XIX. mas é uma construção recente da história.
Era até Coimbra ou Évora nos séculos XV; XVI em relação a Lisboa, mas não no sentido actual, e nunca as cidades própriamente, mas mais nos senhores, Duques e sedes de poder. O Porto já era mt importante, mas nada "rival", mais parceiro e comercial.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
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4435123 2 months ago
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4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 Sem te chatear mais com tantas respostas - e só para rematar. Nem quero apagar nada caro amigo - e não devemos quando é saudável e de vigor.
Fora do futebol é praticamente inexistente(pelo menos em Lisboa - na vida dos tralhadores e do homem comum e onde o pessoal tem todas as origens e preocupa-se com a sobrevivência). No futebol até é saudável desde que não haja violência nos Estádios ou fora deles - isso é domínio da lei.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
N que m toca, retiro saudável interesse dste "debate". N entanto, qnto a Lisboa n o sei, porém, vem ao Porto e vês q existe bm para lá d desporto. Essa rivalidade persiste! Nas conversas ds "Aliados" e ds "31 d Janeiros", d típico homem comum, do velhote ds bancos d S.Lázaro e d Batalha. O sul n é odiado (pelo mns n sentido extremo d plvra), mas rapidamente s verifica q é ridicularizado fonte ds típicas depreciações nortenhas. É o "estrangeiro" com complexo de superioridade.
4435123 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
No entanto,o facto de ser construção "recente" ou pelo menos + recente d História, n justifica q hoje em dia não deva persistir só porque em tempos passados não existia. Tempos passados são isso mesmo, tempos passados. E hoje, bem, hoje a rivalidade persiste e insiste e graças ao desporto, incendeia-se ainda mais. Não é nada d mau e não é nada d bom. É apenas assim, existe e pronto. E, cm td o respeito, n será apenas 1 individuo cm espírito d unificador que a irá apagar.
4435123 2 months ago
Quandi 2 e mais(eram as regiões e regiões ou sub-regiões)
Em 1245(D. Sancho II - D. Afonso III guerra civil) , 1385 etc. nas lutas dinásticas o Porto era sempre o enclave a norte sempre ao lado de Lisboa e de ouros conselhos no Alentejo etc. e de algumas Ordens militares.(e mais enclave quase isolado a norte no segundo caso-1383-85), embora o Povo do Norte também estivesse com Avis mas amordaçado por senhores feudais e alguns Alcaides) .
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
Portugal is in majority R1b Y Cromossome (West European) but I agree that it is a multicukltural nation in a gene flow.(at a certain point)
Curiosity: some Berber N- African markers were found many in northen Portuguese and Galician female Mtdna lines. But they belive that didn´t came with Moors (relations or kidnaping), but in pre-historic times - a interesting mistery.
But is a mix of Celts-West Iberians, Jews, Moors, some Suevi and some minority of Italics and Phoenicians etc.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
Portuguese people aren´t like spanish!!!!!
pedluc2010 3 months ago
portugal is the best!
MrCarlosBrazao 3 months ago
OMG i dint no protugal was one of the best empires!!!
TheOneExpert 4 months ago
and im like wtf
i still think portugal is better because brasil was just shit
no medics no cars without protugal brasil sucked bad easy
TheOneExpert 4 months ago
Good job with the video. Nonetheless, I must point out that little more than a minute is too short to tell the tale of a nation that has endured for nearly 1000 years. Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe and perhaps the first multicultural naton of it´s time. Amongst our ancestors are Celts, Pre-Celts, Romans, Suevi, Persians, Visigoths, Andaluz Moors and more. That said, np wonder we´re so good looking :)
FreeAds4 4 months ago
@FreeAds4
Nah Moors are the ancestors of just half of the country, from the Mondego River to south 'till Algarve. ;D
4435123 3 months ago
@4435123 You know why Sancho I was the "Povoador" as his father. Or from 3 or 4 Povoados in Alentejo became hundreds to D. dinis; or why we share the surnames? Or where were The Aviz Bragança and the most part of the descendnets of ancient Portucalense nobility in Late Middle Ages: Around Estremoz, Vila Viçosa, Évora, Beja, Sintra, Abrantes. From the many ViceRoys, to Explorers, Navigators, Coutesans and People etc. after.
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Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Em bom português: não estou a entender bem aonde queres chegar...
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 A mada, sem inteções - mesmo areferência áquilo que li (marcadores genéticos era de leituras em sitios da especialidade) e só resaltava a variedade, mas também uma certa unidade de Portugal.
E acho que não é só 2, mas mais. Outra coisa: Rivalidade Porto Lisboa(concordo contigo)mas é do século XIX - antes disso eram gémias e aliadas burguesas por 700 anos(Comercio do Norte da Europa Medieval; Revolução de 1385, 1640 etc.) e sempre oposta regiões feudais.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal "intenções".
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhore. os territorios conquistados por espanha estao todos mal com a droga no mexico os nazis na argentina dita.. na venezuela
WW2GM 5 months ago
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhores :nota ninguem é melhor que ninguem nem as maiores diferenças o podem negar
WW2GM 5 months ago
1.00
arnavjd 6 months ago
Always Portugal rules! We shall began another Empire in this century!
forcadelta5 6 months ago
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what a fucking piece of shit video.
tiagom135 6 months ago
Were also the Engeniers, Generals and Captains - most born in European Portugal who also which fixed the Forts (today in Mato Grosso, Rondonia, Amazonas), as Beira, Coimbra, founding Manaus and other towns to the extremes in the D. João V, D. José I (Marquis of Pombal) and D. Maria gov. given the greatness to Brazilian territory.
And Local people as Diplomats like Gusmão a descent from Euro colonists were pivotal at the treaties. - the Uti-Possidetis also fruit of this royal plan.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Bandeirantes were very important, from european, to local born, to more european in origin in or more mixed indian people, include local or even people still born in Portugal, like Raposo Tavares or Pedro Teixeira(this one outside of São Paulo cicle, from Belém and Maranhão) but with a life in Brazil.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal And the Bandeirantes were most local in the majority, or Sons of Açorianos(Borba Gato), Alentejanos, Portuguese northmen etc. or grandsons etc. , more European or more mixed, depends.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Guararapes were local victories, but also still with born European Generals (Barreto de Menezes - in fact born in Peru from his Portuguese Father and Mother in Adm. there) as and Henrique Dias(from Azores) a Mullato (mixed people not necessary were locals, could be born europeans), local matias de Albuquerque entire descent of Portuguese, Vidal de Negreiros, Dias and others, of white, indian, black, mixed blood.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Brazilian at the the time were Portuguese and vice-versa. And Portuguese total white or mixed were more a blood thing, not geographic.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
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hilletehnoob 2 weeks ago
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portugal IS SPAINS BIATCH
Abbadon380 1 month ago
@Abbadon380 We ain't dum or dump, that's the proof of difference. Spanish people are very jealous of us. Suck up.
papaotigo 1 month ago
@Abbadon380 Spain is Britain's ass
TheProjectblah 1 month ago
PORTUGAL!
MegaPerson2011 1 month ago
E havia razões sociológicas para o Porto ser assim.
Como há razões sociológicas (industriais,políticas etc.) que transformaram o "Porto" na cidade "rival" de Lisboa após o liberalismo no século XIX. mas é uma construção recente da história.
Era até Coimbra ou Évora nos séculos XV; XVI em relação a Lisboa, mas não no sentido actual, e nunca as cidades própriamente, mas mais nos senhores, Duques e sedes de poder. O Porto já era mt importante, mas nada "rival", mais parceiro e comercial.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
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4435123 2 months ago
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4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 Sem te chatear mais com tantas respostas - e só para rematar. Nem quero apagar nada caro amigo - e não devemos quando é saudável e de vigor.
Fora do futebol é praticamente inexistente(pelo menos em Lisboa - na vida dos tralhadores e do homem comum e onde o pessoal tem todas as origens e preocupa-se com a sobrevivência). No futebol até é saudável desde que não haja violência nos Estádios ou fora deles - isso é domínio da lei.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
N que m toca, retiro saudável interesse dste "debate". N entanto, qnto a Lisboa n o sei, porém, vem ao Porto e vês q existe bm para lá d desporto. Essa rivalidade persiste! Nas conversas ds "Aliados" e ds "31 d Janeiros", d típico homem comum, do velhote ds bancos d S.Lázaro e d Batalha. O sul n é odiado (pelo mns n sentido extremo d plvra), mas rapidamente s verifica q é ridicularizado fonte ds típicas depreciações nortenhas. É o "estrangeiro" com complexo de superioridade.
4435123 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
No entanto,o facto de ser construção "recente" ou pelo menos + recente d História, n justifica q hoje em dia não deva persistir só porque em tempos passados não existia. Tempos passados são isso mesmo, tempos passados. E hoje, bem, hoje a rivalidade persiste e insiste e graças ao desporto, incendeia-se ainda mais. Não é nada d mau e não é nada d bom. É apenas assim, existe e pronto. E, cm td o respeito, n será apenas 1 individuo cm espírito d unificador que a irá apagar.
4435123 2 months ago
Quandi 2 e mais(eram as regiões e regiões ou sub-regiões)
Em 1245(D. Sancho II - D. Afonso III guerra civil) , 1385 etc. nas lutas dinásticas o Porto era sempre o enclave a norte sempre ao lado de Lisboa e de ouros conselhos no Alentejo etc. e de algumas Ordens militares.(e mais enclave quase isolado a norte no segundo caso-1383-85), embora o Povo do Norte também estivesse com Avis mas amordaçado por senhores feudais e alguns Alcaides) .
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
Portugal is in majority R1b Y Cromossome (West European) but I agree that it is a multicukltural nation in a gene flow.(at a certain point)
Curiosity: some Berber N- African markers were found many in northen Portuguese and Galician female Mtdna lines. But they belive that didn´t came with Moors (relations or kidnaping), but in pre-historic times - a interesting mistery.
But is a mix of Celts-West Iberians, Jews, Moors, some Suevi and some minority of Italics and Phoenicians etc.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
Portuguese people aren´t like spanish!!!!!
pedluc2010 3 months ago
portugal is the best!
MrCarlosBrazao 3 months ago
OMG i dint no protugal was one of the best empires!!!
TheOneExpert 4 months ago
and im like wtf
i still think portugal is better because brasil was just shit
no medics no cars without protugal brasil sucked bad easy
TheOneExpert 4 months ago
Good job with the video. Nonetheless, I must point out that little more than a minute is too short to tell the tale of a nation that has endured for nearly 1000 years. Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe and perhaps the first multicultural naton of it´s time. Amongst our ancestors are Celts, Pre-Celts, Romans, Suevi, Persians, Visigoths, Andaluz Moors and more. That said, np wonder we´re so good looking :)
FreeAds4 4 months ago
@FreeAds4
Nah Moors are the ancestors of just half of the country, from the Mondego River to south 'till Algarve. ;D
4435123 3 months ago
@4435123 You know why Sancho I was the "Povoador" as his father. Or from 3 or 4 Povoados in Alentejo became hundreds to D. dinis; or why we share the surnames? Or where were The Aviz Bragança and the most part of the descendnets of ancient Portucalense nobility in Late Middle Ages: Around Estremoz, Vila Viçosa, Évora, Beja, Sintra, Abrantes. From the many ViceRoys, to Explorers, Navigators, Coutesans and People etc. after.
.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Em bom português: não estou a entender bem aonde queres chegar...
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 A mada, sem inteções - mesmo areferência áquilo que li (marcadores genéticos era de leituras em sitios da especialidade) e só resaltava a variedade, mas também uma certa unidade de Portugal.
E acho que não é só 2, mas mais. Outra coisa: Rivalidade Porto Lisboa(concordo contigo)mas é do século XIX - antes disso eram gémias e aliadas burguesas por 700 anos(Comercio do Norte da Europa Medieval; Revolução de 1385, 1640 etc.) e sempre oposta regiões feudais.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal "intenções".
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhore. os territorios conquistados por espanha estao todos mal com a droga no mexico os nazis na argentina dita.. na venezuela
WW2GM 5 months ago
@ViriathusVingathor sim vê lá que eles aind dobram os filmes de hollihood porque a sua populaçao na sabe ler - enquanto nos portugueses as legendas chegam e bastam - vesse tambem no brazil eram dobrados os filmes mas esta a mudar eles e nos samos os melhores :nota ninguem é melhor que ninguem nem as maiores diferenças o podem negar
WW2GM 5 months ago
1.00
arnavjd 6 months ago
Always Portugal rules! We shall began another Empire in this century!
forcadelta5 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
what a fucking piece of shit video.
tiagom135 6 months ago
Were also the Engeniers, Generals and Captains - most born in European Portugal who also which fixed the Forts (today in Mato Grosso, Rondonia, Amazonas), as Beira, Coimbra, founding Manaus and other towns to the extremes in the D. João V, D. José I (Marquis of Pombal) and D. Maria gov. given the greatness to Brazilian territory.
And Local people as Diplomats like Gusmão a descent from Euro colonists were pivotal at the treaties. - the Uti-Possidetis also fruit of this royal plan.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Bandeirantes were very important, from european, to local born, to more european in origin in or more mixed indian people, include local or even people still born in Portugal, like Raposo Tavares or Pedro Teixeira(this one outside of São Paulo cicle, from Belém and Maranhão) but with a life in Brazil.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal And the Bandeirantes were most local in the majority, or Sons of Açorianos(Borba Gato), Alentejanos, Portuguese northmen etc. or grandsons etc. , more European or more mixed, depends.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Guararapes were local victories, but also still with born European Generals (Barreto de Menezes - in fact born in Peru from his Portuguese Father and Mother in Adm. there) as and Henrique Dias(from Azores) a Mullato (mixed people not necessary were locals, could be born europeans), local matias de Albuquerque entire descent of Portuguese, Vidal de Negreiros, Dias and others, of white, indian, black, mixed blood.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Brazilian at the the time were Portuguese and vice-versa. And Portuguese total white or mixed were more a blood thing, not geographic.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Both european portuguese and brazilian portuguese (and african, asiatic portugueses from more the european one) are original portuguese. What is known is that the euro portuguese is more conservative in etymology (written words) and the brazilian portuguese is more conservative (it is believed) in some "sintaxe" and verbal ways and sentences - from XV, XVI, XVII Portuguese language, which is still very alive, strong and in expansion to the future.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
actually, brazillian-portuguese are the original portuguese...
wellyck 7 months ago
@wellyck What the...? What do you mean with that? Cant understand how one can say "brazillian-portuguese are the original portuguese "...
andregeo13 7 months ago
@andregeo13 aah can you speak portuguese? have you heard all of them? my friend, in the world , exists a lot of countries that speak portuguese. africa, portugal, brasil, etc. and some of them are hard to understand but still being portuguese. well... anyways all that i want to mean is that the brazilian-portuguese accent is the real one between others. I cant say anything more,so... if you dont understand im sorry.
wellyck 7 months ago
@wellyck
1 - Yes i do speak portuguese, and probably i have spoken to more portuguese speakers from our old colonies than you.
2 - And no. No, really i cant understand you because you make no sense at all. Specially when you say brasilian portuguese is the original portuguese. Thats just plain stupidity at its best.
3 - Regarding accents, ALL OF THEM ARE REAL... I ve never heard of a ficticious accent...
andregeo13 7 months ago
@andregeo13 whatever dude, just stop replying! tchau!
wellyck 7 months ago
I am Portuguese from Lisbon, Portugal Navigations Global Earth. ATLANTIDA Portuguesa CommonWealths. The Japanese People were 1st met by the 1st ATLANTIS-PORTUGUESE, Educated Professors of Mr. Christopher Columbus at Our Coimbra,Universities of Global Stellar Sextant Navigations. 15 degrees Longitude=1hour of Earths Rotation.The name "Origato in JAPAN"comes from the Portuguese word "Obrigado"in Japan after Successful Trade & Commerce Equivalence Socialism.Also,Gun Powder Fire-Arms were Educated!!
Jules7892 7 months ago
@AkatsukiWeapons Tobacco and cocain were found in various ancient egyptian graves. The problem is that before 1492 both tobacco and cocain existed ONLY in south America, from where they are typical.
PexeOticos 8 months ago
@AkatsukiWeapons google this: "1421 - book"
PexeOticos 8 months ago
@AkatsukiWeapons I believe the Chinese only got as far as India & East Africa. The following dynasty recalled all ships and had them destroyed. This happened in the early 1400, before the Spaniards started their ocean-going exploration.
Afrocanuk 8 months ago
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1 minute? Wow.
RaquelfromPortugal 8 months ago
Poor video -_-....
tiagom135 8 months ago
whichever way you look at it, ask yourself: is there anyone claiming rightfully to be generous when engaging as colonialist ? columbus wasn't the first to discover america. the vikings did too. they just didn't write about it. history is written by the winner always. so stay calm.
Littlewhitelephant 9 months ago
@Littlewhitelephant Don't forget about the acient Egyptian and the Chinese. They have been to south America before the europeans as well.
PexeOticos 8 months ago
Yes, this is Jules Fonseca, Vieira of Lisbon, Portugal. We want Our ATLANTIS-ATLANTIDA Jesus CHRIST COMMONWEALTH with ALL the GLOBAL World in PEACE & Harmonious Morality of Christianity and Equal Trade & Commerce, ATLANTIS of PORTUGAL Wants Equal Prosperity with ALL the EARTH people, to Prosper in this Electronic-Digital Age of the 21st Century from OUR Past ATLANTIS Portuguese Fore-Fathers Wisdom to bring PROSPERITY and JESUS CHRIST to ALL EARTH PEACE FAMILY Trade & Commerce COMMONWEALTHS!!!
Jules7892 9 months ago
@Jules7892
Atlantis is a myth,its sad,but that for now the facts,we came mostly of all from the proto italo-celtic,la Téne and Hallstatt cultures.
StellandBlood 9 months ago
There are a lot of narrow-minded people making a 'bad embassy' for Brazil and for Portugal. Human quality is not dependent on nationality, good and bad are everywhere. Let us just forget ignorance and choose good Portuguese and Brazilian friends. Portuguese is a planetary language, this is amazing, let us use it well.
opgalaxy 9 months ago
people think... portugal gave the last colonie in 1999 and it was macau to china and thats why the chinese like the portuguese peolple becouse they are friends a long time ago almost 500 years... and the hatred of brazilians speaking bad of portugal, i dont now why, but they are becoming a powerhouse,YES but they forguet that portugal is the 3º country that invest more in brasil! they are what they are now becouse of the PORTUGAL!
nunoSTApt 9 months ago
Portugal now adheres and assists BRASIL-BRAZIL in as much social-economic assistance to BRAZIL as possible but knows too, that BRASIL-BRAZIL is an Independent Nation since 1822 A.D. But like, Pedro Alvres Cabral , Portugal is looking forward to its "New CommonWealth with BRAZIL".Portuguese members look forward to BRASIL-BRAZIL in becoming the next "Super-Power" in the West of SOUTH AMERICA,this strengthens ATLANTIS-ATLANTIDA Portuguesa like this writer Jules, Fonseca VIEIRA of Lisbon,PORTUGAL!!!
Jules7892 9 months ago
Portugal is one of the world's oldest, has appeared 400 years before the Kingdom of Spain. It was the first country to have an overseas empire. Portugal invented the caravel and developed techniques of cartography. Gave name of lands and capes around the world. Cristovão Colombo was Portuguese as Fernão Magalhães who proved the earth was round through an experience with boats.
MrGdpazevedo 10 months ago 5
Epah, isto deixa-me revoltado, vês a história do império espanhol 7 minutos, com menos merda do que nós, os Ingleses que passaram a vida a gamar o que era Português, os holandeses, franceses e italianos sempre a meter a mão também e só temos 1 minuto de video, caralho, nem sequer referiram que fomos os primeiros europeus a ter contacto com o Japão a China nada! não interessa são Portugueses não vale a pena fazermos um trabalho bem feito!
Youtubitiano 10 months ago 3
E que fomos donos de metade do mundo
ogojesus100 9 months ago
@ogojesus100 exactamente! Portugal trouxe inovação, ainda hoje descobrimos a verdadeira história agora existe a teoria de que Portugal já havia descoberto a Austrália!
Youtubitiano 9 months ago
If we lost the Brasil they wouldn't talk portuguese :p
LIE :p
TheMegaBiscoito 10 months ago
Its funny how she did not only lie bout some details, but also "forgot" to mention many important things, I know it's just a resume, but that was not enough.
Clavsicus 10 months ago
WE ALSO DISCOVERED AMERICA BECAUSE COLUMBUS WAS A PORTUGUESE SPY
DAFACE420 1 year ago 4
@DAFACE420 LOL
ANTIHYTLERS 10 months ago
esta gaja é descendente moura. Que ironia, ela é q faze este video...falando sobre a raça que nos expulsamos e batalhamos contra durante tantos anos. Claro que n quero ser racista...so acho engraçado.
Ela fez o video de How to Speak Arabic, e How to Speak Albanian.
So Miremengjes to you.
jlspma 1 year ago
Honrai a Pátria, que a Pátria vos contempla!
Youtubitiano 1 year ago
finaly a video with no brasilians,trowing dirty words to Portuguese people,maybe because is in english.pathetic intromissions full of hate and prejudice if not of inferiority complex and ignorance of some (enough) in Brazil,no education or just pure hate to spread in most sites on my homeland,I´m Proud of my country of the history,the people,the culture,i love my county.could we do or did better you bet we can,and is in that Nation with 850 years,up´s and down´s happened but we never give up!!!
Luzitanpride 1 year ago
@Luzitanpride What the fuck is wrong with you ?? The one full of hate here seems to be you. I am brazilian, and I never had any feeling of hate toward portuguese people. It is the opposite, all the portuguese I met were cool funny and very polite so I loved meeting them. Unfortunately there are lot of poor ignorant people in Brazil that know shit, should anyone listen to ignorant pricks sayings???? Just ignore these, because it is obvious they know shit.
BartRamone 1 year ago 24
@BartRamone i whish i could said the same from spanish but they are dickheads. portuguese are nice ;)
carmonaPBC562 8 months ago
@BartRamone concordo com vc !
baxanta 7 months ago
What happened to the Portuguese? they used to be EVERYWHERE in the world...Now i only see them in Portugal and Real Madrid.
Rao665 6 months ago
@Rao665 that`s why now we conquered Spain!
forcadelta5 6 months ago
@Rao665
Hey! And Chelsea so sht da fack up! ;D Kidding
4435123 3 months ago
@BartRamone not really. i am brasilian as well and you must admit that, as any other european country, portugal have a tendency of dislike towards foreigners. there is, in fact, some rivality between the two nations.
alastarian1 6 months ago
@alastarian1
Sorry but the ones who throw hatred towards Portugal r the Brazillians. In fact, I don't even understand why. We didn't kill the natives when we colonized u, like d spanish did with d Aztecs; we had d most peacefull process of colonization, n were d first to abolished slavery. Portuguese though don't have all the same kind of mood. Travel south and they're just like any arrogant and antipathique european, travel up North and you'll find the most welcoming mood you'll ever receive.
4435123 2 months ago
@BartRamone concordo com vc !
baxanta 7 months ago
What happened to the Portuguese? they used to be EVERYWHERE in the world...Now i only see them in Portugal and Real Madrid.
Rao665 6 months ago
@Rao665 that`s why now we conquered Spain!
forcadelta5 6 months ago
@Rao665
Hey! And Chelsea so sht da fack up! ;D Kidding
4435123 3 months ago
@BartRamone not really. i am brasilian as well and you must admit that, as any other european country, portugal have a tendency of dislike towards foreigners. there is, in fact, some rivality between the two nations.
alastarian1 6 months ago
@alastarian1
Sorry but the ones who throw hatred towards Portugal r the Brazillians. In fact, I don't even understand why. We didn't kill the natives when we colonized u, like d spanish did with d Aztecs; we had d most peacefull process of colonization, n were d first to abolished slavery. Portuguese though don't have all the same kind of mood. Travel south and they're just like any arrogant and antipathique european, travel up North and you'll find the most welcoming mood you'll ever receive.
4435123 2 months ago
And now we have Sócrates! -.-
z0rgPT 1 year ago
Nice Video! I'd like to go to Portugal soon. Btw, stop that rivalry towards Spain. It's hard for me to take! We are not enemies anymore. We're just EU States members. That means we need the each other, specially in these dificult days for the euro and our economies. Cheers from Spain, ur ally and friend.
AngelStratocaster 1 year ago 12
@AngelStratocaster Just ignore those butthurt mongrel lover imbeciles!Stay safe!
o8oBROTHERo8o 1 year ago
@o8oBROTHERo8o Ok, thanks for ur support :)
AngelStratocaster 1 year ago
@AngelStratocaster FYI friend there´s no more rivalry betwen us as the varius rigions of spain.that rivalry wase feeded by the 2 dictatorships in the past, the boogy man after all did not exited,so you are in a united europe. if you talk about footbal or sports in general then you have same problemes but the rest is old new´s.we are brother in blood we share the same dna,also with the french and italians to,so long live spain friendshiph with portugal.latin mediteranic.withe race etnic iberic.
Luzitanpride 1 year ago
@Luzitanpride You forgot the romanian they're latin aswell and we're not really white there's a term for our skin colour i think it's like "olive skinned" ...
asneirinhaportugal 1 year ago
@Luzitanpride Thank u for ur nice comment. It's the kind of comment I like to listen. I hate the hate xD. I just don't understand that. Bye!
AngelStratocaster 1 year ago
@AngelStratocaster Don't use the word ally i know we live in a modern world but don't use that word it disgusts me, no offense i don't have that hate for spain but the word ally is pushing the luck
asneirinhaportugal 1 year ago
@AngelStratocaster im portuguese and we hate spain for many reasons, but some of you are cool like you, but the most of the spanish think portugal is just one of theyre pronvices -.-
delightfulRaven 4 months ago
@delightfulRaven Im Spanish myself and I don't think spanish ppl think that u say, that's ridiculous. In fact, we do have a good perspective from u, like a friendly neighbour. My impression is that many portugese have a bad perception of Spain, and that's why I typed the original message u read. Cheers friend! And don't hate us because we don't hate u, trust me!! :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster im gonna trust you and i will try to chance my opinion about Spain, you are alright thanks for me tell me that i really will respect more my neighbour ;)
delightfulRaven 4 months ago
@delightfulRaven That's good. Remember that youtube is full of trolls and ppl who insult just because they're not in the flesh, and think they're anonymous. In real, it's different. If u come to Spain no one would say anything bad about Portugal. Normal ppl are not jerks. :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster bla bla bla what about Olivença?!!
haha joking.. kinda...
akkappul 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster portuguese people like spain
MrGenzo13 4 months ago
@MrGenzo13 Thanks friend :) So we do. We do like Portugal too. :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster :D
MrGenzo13 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster im portuguese and we hate spain for many reasons, but some of you are cool like you, but the most of the spanish think portugal is just one of theyre pronvices -.-
delightfulRaven 4 months ago
@delightfulRaven Im Spanish myself and I don't think spanish ppl think that u say, that's ridiculous. In fact, we do have a good perspective from u, like a friendly neighbour. My impression is that many portugese have a bad perception of Spain, and that's why I typed the original message u read. Cheers friend! And don't hate us because we don't hate u, trust me!! :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster im gonna trust you and i will try to chance my opinion about Spain, you are alright thanks for me tell me that i really will respect more my neighbour ;)
delightfulRaven 4 months ago
@delightfulRaven That's good. Remember that youtube is full of trolls and ppl who insult just because they're not in the flesh, and think they're anonymous. In real, it's different. If u come to Spain no one would say anything bad about Portugal. Normal ppl are not jerks. :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster bla bla bla what about Olivença?!!
haha joking.. kinda...
akkappul 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster portuguese people like spain
MrGenzo13 4 months ago
@MrGenzo13 Thanks friend :) So we do. We do like Portugal too. :)
AngelStratocaster 4 months ago
@AngelStratocaster :D
MrGenzo13 4 months ago
Correct me if im wrong but you were saying that "spain" or any kingdom, allowed portugal to exist right? ...they said "yeah let them keep our lands! they deserve it poor them, lets be generous its christmas time!" dont u know afonso henriques fought against his own mother?
esmifrado 1 year ago
About the empire i just dont understand why Portugal was criticized for having an empire, and pressured to leave theyr colonies, and at the end, u see England and France (essentialy) still holding islands all around the world. But anyway we left them, is our fault.
esmifrado 1 year ago
i hate foreigners who comment portuguese history without knowing shit about it.About Brasil, that country has its actual huge size thanks to portuguese politics in colonial times. France, Holland, etc. tried to conquer Brasil after we took it and they were always beaten and expelled.We discovered the sea path to India and we were pionneers worldwide at costructing a global world. We dominated asian trade routes and nautical and geographical science, a country made of brave men and strong armadas
Pedrodamota 1 year ago 35
@Pedrodamota portugal was one of the greatest empire in europe and also was on the the european empires with the least national resources of manpower and land and even then was able to defeat the spanish crap and the gayfrench. long live portugal!!!
carmonaPBC562 8 months ago
@carmonaPBC562 And the portuguese found the city of Nagazaki in Japan, this was new to me until last month. Another great achievement of the portuguese nation.
BartRamone 8 months ago
@BartRamone r u saying it like a joke?
carmonaPBC562 8 months ago
@BartRamone btw they were the ones who show the japs the gun power before portuguese comerce in jap the japs had never seen a gun before
carmonaPBC562 8 months ago
@carmonaPBC562 no lol, sorry my english, can't express myself good. I didn't want it to sound like a joke. I think it is so cool they found a city in japan. Portuguese are good explorers, merchants and brave warriors.
BartRamone 8 months ago
@BartRamone im not that good at english neither salute brother
carmonaPBC562 7 months ago
@Pedrodamota No shit ? You portuguese didn't do shit when the Dutch invaded us. We had to fight them and win them all by ourself ( Pernanbucam Sugar Cane owners) oh and by the way the size of our country is our merit. Ever heard of the Bandeirantes ? Do you wanna talk about the colonization of Sao Paulo ? I like portugal alot but you shouldn't talk about the history of a country you don't know.
RaphaElBarrelLa 7 months ago
@RaphaElBarrelLa But the Portuguese army was at war in Iberian Peninsula against Spain (was sitill the first powuer in world -altough in decay) The People were sread around the empire. The Man in India, Oman, Hormuz, Sry Lanhka, Indonesia, Moluccas, Macau, fighting the dutch, the Persians, the English, the Arabs and Omanites were also almost theirsefes. As in Brazil and Angola(reconquered by brazilians). At the time Portuguese in nationality, born in Europe or in Brazil.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
"still", "power", "spread" "Themselves" (not theirselfes) etc. sorry.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
"still", "power", "spread" "Themselves" (not theirselfes) etc. sorry.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Pedrodamota I agree although i dont know too much the Portugese are unfortunatly very unknown theyre a great people & good friends with Britain throughout the centuries 2 be fair Portugals only strong areas were Goa Phillipines n Brasil cause the Dutch and British captured most of the other zones the Portugese had introduced but they were quite evil in how they did mass slavery n encouraged the Japanese 2execute all Dutchmen without trials. Also does portugal have a monarchy still?
eddieoxford 6 months ago
@eddieoxford Portugal has been a republic since 1910.
zebaroa666 6 months ago
@Pedrodamota Never mind i found out last king was manuel 2nd in 1922
eddieoxford 6 months ago
@Pedrodamota
you were the pioneers, but because of that fact, you were very brutal because you didnt knew how to handle big empires
And then Spain took over Portugal, ruined Brazil (it got to the dutch in that period, at least 34% of the settled land), and in that time, and shortly after that, Holland did so massively bash you out of Indonesia, Gold Coast and some Islands, and Ceylon, that you could never rise to so much power again.
i respect the port. empire, but they were not the best rulers
blueboy921 6 months ago
@blueboy921...what are talking about, you idiot? Spain NEVER took over Portugal...the Iberian Union was a mutual pact between both the Castillian & Portuguese crowns...once the Portuguese people decided the pact wasn't beneficial to them, they revolted, the Spaniards resisted, and it resulted in what's called the "Portuguese Restoration war", in which the Portuguese achieved their objective ...
conni70 5 months ago in playlist HISTORY OF PORTUGAL
@blueboy921...and yes the Dutch drove the Portuguese out of Indonesia, but the Portuguese not only thwarted Dutch attempts to colonize Brazil, but they prevented countless attempts by Frenchman, Spaniards, and Englishmen, too...again, THE PORTUGUESE EMPIRE WAS THE FIRST TRUE GLOBAL EMPIRE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD...deal with it, dude...
conni70 5 months ago in playlist HISTORY OF PORTUGAL
@conni70
lol you freak out so much :D
and they were the first empire, i didnt deny that :P
but still the dutch took brasil for 30 years, and they drove them out of most of India, Ceylon AND indonesia, AND african gold coast.
but they got them out of brasil again, thats true.
still, AFTER that war, the portuguese empire was nothing anymore, at least, brought no income except a bit from the mismanaged brasil..
blueboy921 5 months ago
@blueboy921...your argument is redundant, you asshole...ALL empires fall from their top spot...the Portuguese Empire was no different from the rest, in that regard...but what the world is left with, is the profoundly important cultural legacy the Portuguese Empire left behind...
conni70 4 months ago
blueboy921 4 months ago
@blueboy921...again, you need a very basic history lesson...the Portuguese cultural legacy in India& Sri Lanka isn't as big as the British, but it's still felt in specific areas...just Google "Goa", you ass...also, in Sri Lanka one can find a bounty of Portuguese surnames in the population...also Indian cuisine is heavily influenced by the Portuguese, as the Portuguese first introduced chilies, tomatoes and potatoes to the Indian subcontinent...Vindaloo is also an adaptation of a Portuguese dish
conni70 4 months ago
@blueboy921...the Portuguese cultural legacy goes beyond the Indian subcontinent as Macau is also a culture in which the Portuguese and Cantonese cultures fused to create an interesting finished product...
conni70 4 months ago
@conni70
i thought about mentioning macau, but its a small territory, so i thought it wasnt so important, but its true what you said, the dutch had it with Dechima also and it gave Europe Delfts Blauw.
blueboy921 4 months ago
@blueboy921
Remained partly in Brazil? LOL
4435123 3 months ago
@4435123
yeah. i mean, do you want to tell me, that its 100% portuguese culture ?
really ?
i mean, USA is also not british culture anymore.
in my opinion, brazilians are more happy, and nicer people (than all europeans including us dutch)
blueboy921 3 months ago
@blueboy921
Well, Portuguese are not known for being antipatic, at least the North of the country. I can admit that down south they're pretty cold assholes /there are exceptions of course).
4435123 3 months ago
@4435123 exceptions? And were there is the line of division of the "cold assholes"! Since the south was havealy populated by the north.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Yeah and isolated for a very long time. US was populated by British n they r nothing alike, Brazil by us n we r nothing alike. If u're from down south, u must know r differences,it's like 2 different countries in mind n spirit. The rivalry between the capital from the North and the Capital from the South contributed 2 that, as Portuenses developed a very independent, working-class n nationalist (regionalist) spirit. N Lisbon it's gracefull, arrogant but more peacefull way.
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 I born in Lisbon from Castro Daire and Tomar Lineage(North of Beira Alta - paternal and North of Ribatejo almost Beiras - Maternal), and I know the huge cultural and geographic differences, not 2, but 5 or 7 (to refer oly the Continent) or so.
But not the spirit or the People,but all this in my personal opinion. I respect your opinion.
And of course, in culture and architecture, the impact of Moorish civilization is bigger in the south(gradual is the word, not any rigid line).
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Não é uma linha repentina, é claro. Mas eu tb n o disse dessa forma. Apenas referi a cidade do Porto, pois o seu estatuto de Invicta atribuído pela Rainha...bem, acho que nem preciso de te referir a razão. E aí é que eu quero chegar. Isto é, como pode ter uma cidade influência moura, se nem eles nem mais ninguém penetraram alguma vez na nossa cidade após a formação de Portugal. E o nome de Portugal vem de Portucalem, que derivou da Invicta, a cidade que deu o nome ao país.
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 a norte do Douro a influência é puca e estabelecimentos foram pouquissimos. Agora durante cerca de 100 anos o Dominio do Califado de damasco e bagdade (desde 711) e depois do califado ibérico chegou a norte de Santiago de Compostela. E Porto fez parte, militarmente do território Mouro como tudo resto, ainda que tenha durado muito menos.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Exactamente, a tal diferença abismal encontra justificação na dita influência breve e fragmentada, da qual uma região como o Norte, geograficamente, socialmente, etc; "já nem se recorda" de existência tão curta e longínqua. Ao passo q n Sul do país já não se possa, muito pelo contrário, dizer o mesma. Em referência a outro coment, toda a razão, n tem, d facto, nada a ver cm o debate. Foi apenas 1 aparte relativo a um outro comentário q aqui escreveste.
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 Quanto ao Decreto da Rainha D. maria, foi pelo Cerco de um Ano que os Liberais sofreram(Como seu pai lá cercado, d. Pedro IV) que a pôs no trono, vencendo D. Miguel (os Tradicionalistas). A guerra civil durou dois anos. E o Povo do Porto mereceu o prémio pela heroicidade ao lado dos liberais que ocuparam a cidade, mas havia muitos comandantes de Lisboa e sul, claro.
O Decreto foi por iniciativa do Almeida Garrett, natural da cidade a D. Maria II em 1835s. Está publicado.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
E qual era a região d país q + s apoiava n ideologia tradicionalista?Q se opunha aos liberais e á sua "demência" (citando)?É claro q havia liberais d tda a prte, mas qm acabou pr resistir n interior ds "muralhas"?Quem comeu intestinos d porco (o q s tornou receita bastante agradável, devo dizer) e reservar carne pros soldados,cujas forças enfraqueciam?Q povo,msm após 1 tragédia ainda hj relembrada (Ponte ds Barcas),persistíu?N foram comandantes d Sul, nm Lisboetas, d certo.
4435123 2 months ago
@4435123 A entrega do dragão, timbre dos Reis de Portugal e a "Invicta" tem data e foi publicada por decreto e pedida por Garrett em Lisboa. Pelo cerco da guerra civil ocorrido em 1833.
No resto a região foi ocupada por Mouros (como parte da galiza) ainda que só por cerca de 100 anos. Consultar qualquer historiador ou bibliografia.
Portucale, sim é de Cale (Gale) hoje Gaia(e Porto) e provavelmente local da tribo Gallaeci da foz do Douro, e? Não propriamente a ver com este debate.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago
Com uma excepção eheheh(no caso da influência cultural Moura, maior a sul claro (porque mais tempo de ocupação) que é o Mafamude etc. para nomes de locais, povoados - em muito maior número no norte.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 2 months ago