testing is the most important for sure..but I think you failed to consider how you would distinguish chemtrail contaminents from regular every day contaminents...soil and water are full of metals from other sources of pollution..so how do we distinguish the two sources of contamination and provide evidence that they are the byproduct of chemtrails specifically? another main thing is raising public awareness, this can be done as easily as telling ppl to look up to the sky
Yes,-STEP:1,2,3 all have to done with precision and diligence.
Unfortunately, Most of the VISIBLE aerosol operations are using
soluble materials like; sodium chloride and calcium chloride, &/OR gas/vapor materials like dry-ice & Liquid nitrogen(vaporization by Sublimation)
Another feasible Tactic, would be to do a Daily plane count above the Rural areas and small Canadian town's. All commercial long-range-widebody airliners are heavily regulated in North America! -do Ob's comparison 2 NAV ca?
Jesse ventura has mainstream coverage, not Alex. He needs to step up. Mainstream media is allready telling you about water contamination. The UN is getting ready to OK geo engineering, including spraying. Don't just watch one so called news outlet, listen and watch them all. It's out there, you just have to search hard!
hello from a hard core chemtrail hating channel in the New York City area. We invite you and your viewers to have a look at our videos. we sabatogue chemtrails using vapors right out of the bottle of store bought vinegar. clear the sky of chems !
There is A LOT of evidence, actually. People have been doing serious scientific lab tests already. That's not going to help. Just protect yourself. Protect your loved ones. Good luck!
@VenusAsABoyFilms There is so much evidence.. it's just.... you're right, I've given up on those who refuse to look for knowledge themselves. There are plenty of folks open to such information. I will be focusing upon them, and preparing... best of luck to you.
Good idea! im doing my small part here in my local area..i made some small leaflets and filled a back pack and went off one evening just pushing them through doors..i made some small posters which i pinned to gateposts on the local park where lots of dog walkers and families should see..even if only a few are wakened its something..im so sick and tired of this chemical crap in our skies day and night!!
@aFreshStart2010 hello from a hard core chemtrail hating channel in the New York City area. We invite you and your viewers to have a look at our videos. we sabatogue chemtrails using vapors right out of the bottle of store bought vinegar. clear the sky of chems !
If you are going to test what is in a trail, you need to test the trail itself. Air, water and soil samples will NEVER tell us what is in these trails. And to believe any such thing is ridiculous if one understands the water cycle. I'm so glad to finally see your face. You have a pretty mouth.
Particulate drags down a ton of stuff from high up, morgellons, desicated blood cells (found in Indian red rain scare without chemtrails) and the other fear based distractiveinfo is encouraged as a result. What is the panic to block/obscure sun is what we should be asking, we can prove now whether regular pollution or geoengineering the result is manufactured overcast skies. Peace
Say No To EVIL WEATHER WAR.... Wake up!! Say No to GEN. FOOD, Say No to Eradiated Fruits, FOOD, Say No to Poisen in Water, Air...Wake up. This is really bad because they are Growing for themselfs other places and we get to eat the SHEET GEN FOOD.................!!?
Heres an idea, I think you should start a database of all the different tests that have been done. Organize it according to location, date and the type of test done.
@mikemb123 Thanks, yes please send me your results. This is exactly what I think we need to do. There are some places that have been extensively tested, but others that have not. Putting all that together and filling the gaps is the goal. Then share this information to the general public in an accessible way (youtube, other internet forums, news, radio, posters, leaflets, websites, any other venue, etc). Cheers.
@academianon Hey there. I have helpful info about this. In my opinion this has been solved. I'm not a creeper-e-mail me if you want to learn more or facebook me, aric true. I don'te want to talk about it on here? If I hear from you good, if not okay. It is way more serious than chemtrails. I can send you a cd or tell you what to look for. The puzzle has been put together. I'm kind of waiting to disappear actually(i hope not)
@mikemb123 I am aware of many people who have done local testing. That's what inspired my video. People have been doing testing for a long time, what I'm proposing is that we collect information on a global level and combine it together. Another important point for people in larger countries is to test a wide geographical range to show that it's not a localized issue. You already commented, so I thought we had cleared this up, lol.
@academianon you are talking to someone who has already had a test done, already gone to the E.P.A. and already read the existing body of work on this subject.
@academianon why don't you just do a test, then go to the E.P.A.[or whatever the agency is in Canada], write your paper[like I did] and see what response you get?
its not that hard to collect rainwater and just test for aluminum[you cant test for all the other stuff]
but do that and see what happens. Then read the accounts of all the other people who have done the same and the responses they got from government.
@mikemb123 How localized was your testing site? Laws are different in Canada, and it's a huge country. We need to prove that it's a widespread global phenomenon. That combined with video evidence, government documents, and patents clearly strengthens our points. I don't care about the government agencies. I want to convince regular people who just want information so they can make their own decisions. Gov agencies are inherently corrupt, so why bother with them... need the political will first.
@ghosthunternumberone I know they are part of it, I was trying to explain that to academionon, the full extant of this is impossible for most people to concieve of,
but you are right EPA is totally controlled by the people doing the spraying. They are a puppet agency I have looked into their history and their ties are with this whole monstrous plan being carried out.
@mikemb123 Yup, i know i went on the EPA site here, iwas thinking of calking them, until i saw a big Climate Climate change thing staring me in the face on there! Then i knew there's no point, dont need no John Carpenters THEY LIVE Glasse's to see who these guys really are!!!
@mikemb123 I watched his movie Aerosol Crimes, where he talks about it, but is'nt here an ex Federal Agent? I personally am not sure he can be fully trusted, if you watch Aerosol Crimes, the first thing that appears on screen is the sun! Whenever they point cameras directly into the sun on tv & oin movies, it's usually Masonic Symbolism! So not 100% sure on him yet!
@ghosthunternumberone I don't doubt the accounts of Carnicom's research, only thing I'm puzzled about is he seems to be just talking about health food lately and has backed away from the morgellans issue. I've got airborne fallout samples sitting right in front of me right now, nowhere to send this stuff
@mikemb123 I still have to check out his site, i've on ly watched the movie, you can look at the movie in 2 ways, that he is truly concerned & wants the spraying stopped, or is he secretly promoting it? He goes on about how we have lost our blue sky & how the planet will never be as it once was etc! It has been said that Masons like to boast, there's lots of tv shows filled with nothing but stories & visuals of torture & murder & they all have sun symbolism along with them!
@ghosthunternumberone Just being an ex-federal agent doesn't mean you are an "insider" to this whole masonic thing whatever you want to call it. Its an infiltration of government agencies by what amounts to organized crime and racketeering. There are two camps within the government, you see this with whistleblowers being assasinated etc.
@mikemb123 Yup i know, but the fact that the first thing you see on screen in his film is the sun, makes me very suspect! Like what you were saying before about G. Edward Griffiths!
@ghosthunternumberone the psyop I'm talking about is in the 5 minute or so trailer that Alex Jones promoted. Questions: why did Alex Jones abandon his own chemtrail movie? Why did he switch to promoting Griffin's chemtrail movie instead?
Could it be that the Elite were undecided wich project to use for the controlled leak and in the end they went with Griffin? Or were people too spooked to mail Alex Jones the footage???
@mikemb123 I kinda wondered that also, coz he did say quite a few times, he was gonna make the movie! He did say receently that he did'nt know where to start on it, so maybe thats his excuse anyways for handing it over to the other guys! It seems like it's 2 unknown guys that made it! Where the hell did they spring from? I noticee Mariel Hemingway is also in this!
people here know all about it. i don't think samples and data makes any different, as i assume this is A COVERT OPERATION, so environmental government buildings as usual will just turn a blind eye. If it's COVERT then it's a MASS KILLING and you have no feaking rights or power whatsoever. in other words, all you sheep, ants, life can just DIE! that's what iot's about. criminals get PROMOTED, not punished. that's the world of today. grrrr.
@pamaspamas This is less about making corrupt governmental organizations aware. We need to organize our information to mobilize an international movement. Right now we're a little bit disorganized. More organized evidence will help to convince many people who are still very skeptical about what is going on. (I'm not sure where you are located, but many north americans are still fast asleep :/)
@academianon incredible! if only this pulls off as well as the resistance to the H1N1 immunizations did! ps- colloidal silver helps with the PLASMIC DISPERSION OF CHEMTRAILS. for the metallic "powder" dispersions get your immune system up to par. pss- there are nanotech rfid in some of the trails. CHEMTRAILS ARE USED FOR A VARIETY OF AGENDA's. and operation greenshield is a cover guise. run an 8htz frequency to disable the rfid's inhaled. good luck everyone!
ok so want to bring to justice the very people who own justice? Better to just turn our backs on them and let them freak out alone and shrivel up and die away..."economy" is a word they love so boycott their goods! good luck PHD!
@uturniaphobic Oh man I agree completely! We all need to completely disengage from the corrupt system that exists and create our own social networks on a local level so we can create more equal and fair economies and participatory organizations. I couldn't agree more. This will only be possible if we can get a majority of people to participate. They need the information I think eh? Thanks :)
Good vid,good points, imo there is already enough proof and scientific evidence proving what chemtrails are or are not, but there will always be more skeptics and sheep to say otherwise.
@nwoisnow I've had some pretty lengthy discussions with reasonable people who are understandably skeptical because the "chemtrail" movement has no real consensus on what is actually going on. This is part of the problem. Anyways, the majority of them would be very open to the issue if they have "empirical" evidence. You're right though, always going to be skeptics but I think we can definitely win over a lot of them with a better framing of our theories and evidence.
We need a violent overtaking, peaceful protests do nothing. The declaration of independence, tells us to overthrow a government when it gets tyrannical
@ yeah good swift assasinations would be faster, and yet, someone will just replace the same agenda, i think just STEPPING OUT OF THE SYSTEM ENTIRELY and not RELY ON ANYTHING ELSE OFFICIAL, but, unfortunately, people don't know how to provide for themselves. maybee time we had better start LEARNING TO. babylon has fallen already! they know it, we know it, freedom is something you ARE, not something to be or to come or to PERSUE. Just BE IT NOW!
There has been tests done on soil and air samples and there is a rise in Barium and Aluminium if you look on the internet, They are terraforming the planet and on a heavy day here in the UK I get really chesty and have to go inside. I believe they have backed off over hear over the last couple of days and oince again we have beautiful blue skies. I am sure they will be at it again soon. We will overturn these tyrants and it is great to see so many people exposing the truth.
@peterpaulparker We need to get this information together and make sure the testing methodology is solid. Then we need to test in places where there haven't been tests done before (ie, a rural area where people might not be aware of this vs the urban centres). Does that make sense? I'm not sure if this is as much of an issue in the UK but in Canada only very localized testing has occurred and we need more data IMO.
Pls. provide a standard testing procedure to be used by all of us in order to be comparible and send this or make available for download on a website !
@Wecknachricht Yes definitely, this will be part of the process. We do need to make sure we use standardized methods... and the testing that has already been conducted must be analyzed to ensure that it meets these requirements. I'm looking into this right now and more information will be available soon.
@Wecknachricht Yes, for sure. We need a forum to centralize information I think that would be the best way to do this. My email is ragingacademic AT hotmail DOT com
be careful your video is under attack from shills.
they are targeting you with the "fake plane" trick. This is a "softer" form of disinfo, it is designed to convince young and impressionable people not to worry because the planes are just an "illusion"
dont buy this, you are a strong person even though you may be young
@mikemb123 Do you know any shills who post as many chemtrail vids as I do? lol. I'm just investigating.. I saw silent planes just hovering around... in the middle of the night even in the middle of nowhere... wtf. they just pop up and sometimes blink funny/rapidly before seeming more normal.. Go look around your area and consider the vids I referenced before you declare yourself all-knowing, sir. :P
this has already been done, he is right. the excuses are that it is a natural occurence. they will lie for everytihng. and chemtrail awareness is not raising, most people 'researching' this are clueless. it's important to investigate the fake plane phenomena- it's important to teach this to people and contrast it to what people like AJ are saying. he is about to release the biggest disinfo lie CT documentary and all of the sheep are already falling for it.
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 Globally? Finding unknown polymers and other nano-crap on a global scale might be new fuel for building legitimacy. I know what you're saying, but we have to use the language of "reason and evidence" otherwise we're easily rejected as fringe lunatics. This a product of social/behavioral conditioning... just like AJ disinfo. What do you propose as an alternative? I am with you on the fake planes thing, but we walk a difficult path. How can we "prove" fake planes decisively?
@academianon by showing up close pictures and videos that clearly show they are holograms. thank you for replying so quick. all data can be denied or discredited, we are dealing with pathalogical liars. videotapes speak stronger, words are useless. i'm taking a year off of school to work, i'm buying a camera very soon. btw what province r u in
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 No worries man, i'm just sitting and enjoying a free evening. I hear ya, I've seen crazy things with those planes. It's just really hard to frame that to the average person and have them take you seriously. Like I said, I thought the video evidence of chemtrails would be enough to convince people, it isn't. Government documents and widespread experiments aren't enough to convince people. So i don't know.. :/ I'm in AB right now, originally from MB. You?
@academianon i guess we all have our own goals in this. i think if ppl aren't aware of the operation in general by now they will never get it. i also think videos of holograms with the spray coming out 20 feet behind the plane with visible plasma balls and orbs flying by at 200mph is evidence that not only is the operation real, but it's a lot different than the disinfo cons are portraying it. The show is being run by multidimensional entities, bottom line. people need to be worked into this
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 I dunno, there are a lot of people out there who would really be convinced by evidence presented in a coherent way. A major problem with the chemtrail movement is that we lack a single message, we need to make that as basic as possible. Believe me, it blew my mind the first time I slowed my footage down and saw the orbs, etc. It will be really hard for mainstream people to swallow that information, hence the idea to collect this data and show people how widespread it is.
@academianon going to school in toronto but i'm moving back to brantford ON in 2 weeks (wayne gretzky town)
i know what u mean about scaring ppl away with the fake plane thing- the way i see it is if they run away some will come back. if they don't, they are very out of touch with reality.
are u familiar with rod's channel FAKEPLANES near calgary?
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 Heh, it is my opinion that what people view as reality is really just a dream. So I hear ya. I dunno I do "professional work" on international activism and social movements.. so I was hoping it might help if we frame things broadly and try to be as inclusive as possible. I don't think people have to agree, but there has to be some sort of fundamental point: aerosols/polymers in the air would be a good central theme. I know of the fakeplanes channel yes, not much else tho.
@academianon i think we both raise good points. i guess not everyone sees things the same as me. They're both good ideas lol. to me personally, i don't need to see documents. i just went for a walk and saw literally a fleet of 20 ufos pass over my neighbourhood; then 3-4 hanging around in the clouds. I knew there would be a lot because they've been spraying since 5am. here by the airport they act like they own the place (they technically do lol)
@mikemb123 Perhaps you should try investigating his claims before jumping to conclusions? I went for a long drive last time chemtrails cleared up and saw lots of weird blinking "planes" appearing out of nowhere, flying silently in the middle of the night in strange places. Check it out bro.
@mikemb123 Indeed, but did he collect information for a wider geographical area or just in Canada? Doing that offers a higher validity I suppose. Lots of people are doing tests, but we need to connect the information together and show it's over a wide global scale rather than only a few local places with high levels. Does that make sense?
@mikemb123 Oh sorry, I was mixing him up with someone from Canada who does the same sort of stuff. Could you define "all over" like in the US? North America? Elsewhere? I'm a huge fan of Carnicom, but his website is a little tough to interpret for someone who is uninformed about the issue.
If we have lots of samples that's good, but we still need to put it all together and move on it collectively rather than a couple of people here or there. You know?
@academianon I know he does not put much effort into making his sight presentable, but the results are pretty straightforward. The stuff is everywhere and everyone is now effected by it, including presumably all life on Earth.
thats the gist of what he has found. Theres videos of tests I've seen from australia, california etc. because planes fly pretty much all over the world so the stuff is everywhere and the wind blows it around too
@mikemb123 I don't blame him, it's a lot of information and it's really the best it could be. I think you're definitely right, and honestly, if the testing has already been done we just need to organize the results and fill in any gaps (do tests in less populated areas for example). We need to make sure the testing is consistent across regions too.
The main point is that we put this all together in some sort of chart / report form and then disseminate it as widely as possible.
@academianon you should get a test done and tell all your friends and family about it and that they should do the same. Thats what I did. you are a brave young lady
If you prove there is product on the ground, you still have to make the connection to the source, the planes in the sky.
If it is being administered by plane, I think a focus should be put on the planes and the product they are using. Someone has to be manufacturing this stuff- who are they, who are their customers? Are there any pilots that could step up to testify that they see this as unusual from experience? Can these planes be caught on film before leaving the ground? .....
Can close up photographs be taken of these suspected planes with some sort of telescope camera to identify them? Who owns these planes, where do they land?
Lots of other ways to get to the point a lot quicker.
I think your idea is great and there has to be evidence before I would believe it, but they are very interesting indeed!
@NAUresistance there are closeups of these tankers- look at my holographic planes playlist. upclose u will find they are not real planes and an image of a plane is projected. the spray usually comes out of NOWHERE. they don't take off or land anywhere because, let's just say they don't play by the rules of gravity. it's not uncommon to see them disappear on the spot or go into a cloud and not come out the other side.
@NAUresistance I've personally observed through my binoculars that they're white unmarked planes, but to be honest.. I can't really see closely enough to determine this conclusively. I think these are all good suggestions, but I just think if we expose the barium/aluminum and other contaminants this will be really excellent ammo to expose other related issues (like who is doing this, who is manufacturing the materials, etc).
good video. I like how you bring up the fact that there must be hard evidence backing up chem trails. Extraordinary claims, Requires extraordinary evidence- Carl Sagan
I think it should go as far as Regional testing as well. For BC the soil water should be tested throughout the Lower mainland the Fraser Valley Peace River region Okanogan Thompson Rivers area etc etc. Using sterilized methods that are documented and recorded so that dispute of evidence or method is kept to a min. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your PHD
@northerndisclosure I would love to do more extensive testing, but to be honest.. we need to think of the costs involved. I've looked into water testing and that alone was a little bit expensive. So we might have to see how accessible government records are, and then decide how wide we'd test. In a place like Canada (and other larger countries) this will be a huge issue. O.o
Thanks, btw, I'm clearly masochistic I think. It's a fun gig until shit hits the fan ;D
nice to finally meet you.. the clouds here are looking stranger and stranger. I can tell just by looking at them that they are made from petrochemicals and polymers. Crap like that. God bless sweetheart
Long time no see, especially with those glasses .lol
Good to see you back!
I have a lot of photos, however what is needed is time delay footage to go with the test info you suggest. I'll put this video up on the World United News blog to help get the message out.
@2minstral Yeah, timelapse is great. When I first started this I thought that video and photos would be enough to convince people. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be the case. We'll have to broaden our methods. Cheers :)
testing is the most important for sure..but I think you failed to consider how you would distinguish chemtrail contaminents from regular every day contaminents...soil and water are full of metals from other sources of pollution..so how do we distinguish the two sources of contamination and provide evidence that they are the byproduct of chemtrails specifically? another main thing is raising public awareness, this can be done as easily as telling ppl to look up to the sky
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ravenmad2011 2 months ago
just wonderful... thanks for posting this video & contributing to the revolution
PatrioticParadigm 4 months ago
she looks like cameran diaz
ryno4150 11 months ago
thanks for the upload!
octavenoize 1 year ago
Yes,-STEP:1,2,3 all have to done with precision and diligence.
Unfortunately, Most of the VISIBLE aerosol operations are using
soluble materials like; sodium chloride and calcium chloride, &/OR gas/vapor materials like dry-ice & Liquid nitrogen(vaporization by Sublimation)
Another feasible Tactic, would be to do a Daily plane count above the Rural areas and small Canadian town's. All commercial long-range-widebody airliners are heavily regulated in North America! -do Ob's comparison 2 NAV ca?
xlla 1 year ago
Jesse ventura has mainstream coverage, not Alex. He needs to step up. Mainstream media is allready telling you about water contamination. The UN is getting ready to OK geo engineering, including spraying. Don't just watch one so called news outlet, listen and watch them all. It's out there, you just have to search hard!
hardtimefindingname 1 year ago
hello from a hard core chemtrail hating channel in the New York City area. We invite you and your viewers to have a look at our videos. we sabatogue chemtrails using vapors right out of the bottle of store bought vinegar. clear the sky of chems !
LibranEsq 1 year ago
There is A LOT of evidence, actually. People have been doing serious scientific lab tests already. That's not going to help. Just protect yourself. Protect your loved ones. Good luck!
VenusAsABoyFilms 1 year ago
@VenusAsABoyFilms There is so much evidence.. it's just.... you're right, I've given up on those who refuse to look for knowledge themselves. There are plenty of folks open to such information. I will be focusing upon them, and preparing... best of luck to you.
academianon 1 year ago
Good idea! im doing my small part here in my local area..i made some small leaflets and filled a back pack and went off one evening just pushing them through doors..i made some small posters which i pinned to gateposts on the local park where lots of dog walkers and families should see..even if only a few are wakened its something..im so sick and tired of this chemical crap in our skies day and night!!
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aFreshStart2010 1 year ago
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LibranEsq 1 year ago
LOL! Too funny!
If you are going to test what is in a trail, you need to test the trail itself. Air, water and soil samples will NEVER tell us what is in these trails. And to believe any such thing is ridiculous if one understands the water cycle. I'm so glad to finally see your face. You have a pretty mouth.
TheFactsMatter 1 year ago
sorry i was so slow to see this, thank you!
BR1GHT0NCH3MTRA1LZ2 1 year ago
Particulate drags down a ton of stuff from high up, morgellons, desicated blood cells (found in Indian red rain scare without chemtrails) and the other fear based distractiveinfo is encouraged as a result. What is the panic to block/obscure sun is what we should be asking, we can prove now whether regular pollution or geoengineering the result is manufactured overcast skies. Peace
STEVEDIGIBOYtv 1 year ago
Due to being unable to say online i can unfortunatly help online for unforseen circumstances i will try but it's at a risk
27mchapman 1 year ago
PUT FLYERS ON CHEMTRAILES ON EVERY ONES CARS!!!
dominicluzzi 1 year ago
Say No To EVIL WEATHER WAR.... Wake up!! Say No to GEN. FOOD, Say No to Eradiated Fruits, FOOD, Say No to Poisen in Water, Air...Wake up. This is really bad because they are Growing for themselfs other places and we get to eat the SHEET GEN FOOD.................!!?
Ebdan88 1 year ago
Rain water testing program under way, "panacea chemtrails" page
ashtweth 1 year ago
Heres an idea, I think you should start a database of all the different tests that have been done. Organize it according to location, date and the type of test done.
That would be something nobody has ever done yet
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Thanks, yes please send me your results. This is exactly what I think we need to do. There are some places that have been extensively tested, but others that have not. Putting all that together and filling the gaps is the goal. Then share this information to the general public in an accessible way (youtube, other internet forums, news, radio, posters, leaflets, websites, any other venue, etc). Cheers.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon Hey there. I have helpful info about this. In my opinion this has been solved. I'm not a creeper-e-mail me if you want to learn more or facebook me, aric true. I don'te want to talk about it on here? If I hear from you good, if not okay. It is way more serious than chemtrails. I can send you a cd or tell you what to look for. The puzzle has been put together. I'm kind of waiting to disappear actually(i hope not)
AricT77 1 year ago
1.get a test done and post the results. 2. buy a microscope and start studying the samples yourself and publishing your findings.
mikemb123 1 year ago
you dont understand that people already have done and are doing the steps you have outlined. I'm not sure you grasp the extent of whats going on
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 I am aware of many people who have done local testing. That's what inspired my video. People have been doing testing for a long time, what I'm proposing is that we collect information on a global level and combine it together. Another important point for people in larger countries is to test a wide geographical range to show that it's not a localized issue. You already commented, so I thought we had cleared this up, lol.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon you are talking to someone who has already had a test done, already gone to the E.P.A. and already read the existing body of work on this subject.
I've done something, in addition to making videos
mikemb123 1 year ago
@academianon why don't you just do a test, then go to the E.P.A.[or whatever the agency is in Canada], write your paper[like I did] and see what response you get?
its not that hard to collect rainwater and just test for aluminum[you cant test for all the other stuff]
but do that and see what happens. Then read the accounts of all the other people who have done the same and the responses they got from government.
your plan is lovely though
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 How localized was your testing site? Laws are different in Canada, and it's a huge country. We need to prove that it's a widespread global phenomenon. That combined with video evidence, government documents, and patents clearly strengthens our points. I don't care about the government agencies. I want to convince regular people who just want information so they can make their own decisions. Gov agencies are inherently corrupt, so why bother with them... need the political will first.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon the test was from my front yard last feb.
you are welcome to the results I will send them to you
I'll be the first one on your list who got a test, but the thing is there really already have been lots of tests done
you should do one, a simple test for aluminum/barium is very easy and simple to do
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 The EPA dont care, there part of it!!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone I know they are part of it, I was trying to explain that to academionon, the full extant of this is impossible for most people to concieve of,
but you are right EPA is totally controlled by the people doing the spraying. They are a puppet agency I have looked into their history and their ties are with this whole monstrous plan being carried out.
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Yup, i know i went on the EPA site here, iwas thinking of calking them, until i saw a big Climate Climate change thing staring me in the face on there! Then i knew there's no point, dont need no John Carpenters THEY LIVE Glasse's to see who these guys really are!!!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone you are more awake than most, just read Carnicom's account of what happened when he tried to send a fallout sample to the E.P.A
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 I watched his movie Aerosol Crimes, where he talks about it, but is'nt here an ex Federal Agent? I personally am not sure he can be fully trusted, if you watch Aerosol Crimes, the first thing that appears on screen is the sun! Whenever they point cameras directly into the sun on tv & oin movies, it's usually Masonic Symbolism! So not 100% sure on him yet!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone I don't doubt the accounts of Carnicom's research, only thing I'm puzzled about is he seems to be just talking about health food lately and has backed away from the morgellans issue. I've got airborne fallout samples sitting right in front of me right now, nowhere to send this stuff
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 I still have to check out his site, i've on ly watched the movie, you can look at the movie in 2 ways, that he is truly concerned & wants the spraying stopped, or is he secretly promoting it? He goes on about how we have lost our blue sky & how the planet will never be as it once was etc! It has been said that Masons like to boast, there's lots of tv shows filled with nothing but stories & visuals of torture & murder & they all have sun symbolism along with them!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone Just being an ex-federal agent doesn't mean you are an "insider" to this whole masonic thing whatever you want to call it. Its an infiltration of government agencies by what amounts to organized crime and racketeering. There are two camps within the government, you see this with whistleblowers being assasinated etc.
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Yup i know, but the fact that the first thing you see on screen in his film is the sun, makes me very suspect! Like what you were saying before about G. Edward Griffiths!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone the psyop I'm talking about is in the 5 minute or so trailer that Alex Jones promoted. Questions: why did Alex Jones abandon his own chemtrail movie? Why did he switch to promoting Griffin's chemtrail movie instead?
Could it be that the Elite were undecided wich project to use for the controlled leak and in the end they went with Griffin? Or were people too spooked to mail Alex Jones the footage???
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 I kinda wondered that also, coz he did say quite a few times, he was gonna make the movie! He did say receently that he did'nt know where to start on it, so maybe thats his excuse anyways for handing it over to the other guys! It seems like it's 2 unknown guys that made it! Where the hell did they spring from? I noticee Mariel Hemingway is also in this!
ghosthunternumberone 1 year ago
@ghosthunternumberone Yes, based on what you told me about Alex I did some more digging and what I have uncovered is absolutely frighteneing,
mikemb123 1 year ago
people here know all about it. i don't think samples and data makes any different, as i assume this is A COVERT OPERATION, so environmental government buildings as usual will just turn a blind eye. If it's COVERT then it's a MASS KILLING and you have no feaking rights or power whatsoever. in other words, all you sheep, ants, life can just DIE! that's what iot's about. criminals get PROMOTED, not punished. that's the world of today. grrrr.
pamaspamas 1 year ago
@pamaspamas This is less about making corrupt governmental organizations aware. We need to organize our information to mobilize an international movement. Right now we're a little bit disorganized. More organized evidence will help to convince many people who are still very skeptical about what is going on. (I'm not sure where you are located, but many north americans are still fast asleep :/)
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon incredible! if only this pulls off as well as the resistance to the H1N1 immunizations did! ps- colloidal silver helps with the PLASMIC DISPERSION OF CHEMTRAILS. for the metallic "powder" dispersions get your immune system up to par. pss- there are nanotech rfid in some of the trails. CHEMTRAILS ARE USED FOR A VARIETY OF AGENDA's. and operation greenshield is a cover guise. run an 8htz frequency to disable the rfid's inhaled. good luck everyone!
pamaspamas 1 year ago
ok so want to bring to justice the very people who own justice? Better to just turn our backs on them and let them freak out alone and shrivel up and die away..."economy" is a word they love so boycott their goods! good luck PHD!
uturniaphobic 1 year ago
@uturniaphobic Oh man I agree completely! We all need to completely disengage from the corrupt system that exists and create our own social networks on a local level so we can create more equal and fair economies and participatory organizations. I couldn't agree more. This will only be possible if we can get a majority of people to participate. They need the information I think eh? Thanks :)
academianon 1 year ago
Good vid,good points, imo there is already enough proof and scientific evidence proving what chemtrails are or are not, but there will always be more skeptics and sheep to say otherwise.
nwoisnow 1 year ago
@nwoisnow I've had some pretty lengthy discussions with reasonable people who are understandably skeptical because the "chemtrail" movement has no real consensus on what is actually going on. This is part of the problem. Anyways, the majority of them would be very open to the issue if they have "empirical" evidence. You're right though, always going to be skeptics but I think we can definitely win over a lot of them with a better framing of our theories and evidence.
academianon 1 year ago
We need a violent overtaking, peaceful protests do nothing. The declaration of independence, tells us to overthrow a government when it gets tyrannical
TheChristianCorpse 1 year ago
@ yeah good swift assasinations would be faster, and yet, someone will just replace the same agenda, i think just STEPPING OUT OF THE SYSTEM ENTIRELY and not RELY ON ANYTHING ELSE OFFICIAL, but, unfortunately, people don't know how to provide for themselves. maybee time we had better start LEARNING TO. babylon has fallen already! they know it, we know it, freedom is something you ARE, not something to be or to come or to PERSUE. Just BE IT NOW!
pamaspamas 1 year ago
There has been tests done on soil and air samples and there is a rise in Barium and Aluminium if you look on the internet, They are terraforming the planet and on a heavy day here in the UK I get really chesty and have to go inside. I believe they have backed off over hear over the last couple of days and oince again we have beautiful blue skies. I am sure they will be at it again soon. We will overturn these tyrants and it is great to see so many people exposing the truth.
peterpaulparker 1 year ago
@peterpaulparker We need to get this information together and make sure the testing methodology is solid. Then we need to test in places where there haven't been tests done before (ie, a rural area where people might not be aware of this vs the urban centres). Does that make sense? I'm not sure if this is as much of an issue in the UK but in Canada only very localized testing has occurred and we need more data IMO.
academianon 1 year ago
All we had to do his shot one mother fucker plane down.
usergently 1 year ago
Pls. provide a standard testing procedure to be used by all of us in order to be comparible and send this or make available for download on a website !
wakenews . net
chemtrails . de
Wecknachricht 1 year ago
@Wecknachricht Yes definitely, this will be part of the process. We do need to make sure we use standardized methods... and the testing that has already been conducted must be analyzed to ensure that it meets these requirements. I'm looking into this right now and more information will be available soon.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon great! Could you then send us all updates by mail? I am preparing a report series on this blog:
mywakenews at wordpress as well! Thanks! There should be a mailig list prpared though...
Wecknachricht 1 year ago
@Wecknachricht Yes, for sure. We need a forum to centralize information I think that would be the best way to do this. My email is ragingacademic AT hotmail DOT com
academianon 1 year ago
awesome post
thanks for the info and update
way to go
rageunderground 1 year ago
Google DOE geo engineering
rjanis123 1 year ago
be careful your video is under attack from shills.
they are targeting you with the "fake plane" trick. This is a "softer" form of disinfo, it is designed to convince young and impressionable people not to worry because the planes are just an "illusion"
dont buy this, you are a strong person even though you may be young
the youth is our only hope
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Do you know any shills who post as many chemtrail vids as I do? lol. I'm just investigating.. I saw silent planes just hovering around... in the middle of the night even in the middle of nowhere... wtf. they just pop up and sometimes blink funny/rapidly before seeming more normal.. Go look around your area and consider the vids I referenced before you declare yourself all-knowing, sir. :P
TrutherD1 1 year ago
Transparent planes: watch?v=lO0Nu8K5Be4 - UFOs arriving by meteor (10 in 30s): watch?v=cnQhdmC3E-0#t=3m50s
TrutherD1 1 year ago
this has already been done, he is right. the excuses are that it is a natural occurence. they will lie for everytihng. and chemtrail awareness is not raising, most people 'researching' this are clueless. it's important to investigate the fake plane phenomena- it's important to teach this to people and contrast it to what people like AJ are saying. he is about to release the biggest disinfo lie CT documentary and all of the sheep are already falling for it.
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 Globally? Finding unknown polymers and other nano-crap on a global scale might be new fuel for building legitimacy. I know what you're saying, but we have to use the language of "reason and evidence" otherwise we're easily rejected as fringe lunatics. This a product of social/behavioral conditioning... just like AJ disinfo. What do you propose as an alternative? I am with you on the fake planes thing, but we walk a difficult path. How can we "prove" fake planes decisively?
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon by showing up close pictures and videos that clearly show they are holograms. thank you for replying so quick. all data can be denied or discredited, we are dealing with pathalogical liars. videotapes speak stronger, words are useless. i'm taking a year off of school to work, i'm buying a camera very soon. btw what province r u in
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 No worries man, i'm just sitting and enjoying a free evening. I hear ya, I've seen crazy things with those planes. It's just really hard to frame that to the average person and have them take you seriously. Like I said, I thought the video evidence of chemtrails would be enough to convince people, it isn't. Government documents and widespread experiments aren't enough to convince people. So i don't know.. :/ I'm in AB right now, originally from MB. You?
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon i guess we all have our own goals in this. i think if ppl aren't aware of the operation in general by now they will never get it. i also think videos of holograms with the spray coming out 20 feet behind the plane with visible plasma balls and orbs flying by at 200mph is evidence that not only is the operation real, but it's a lot different than the disinfo cons are portraying it. The show is being run by multidimensional entities, bottom line. people need to be worked into this
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 I dunno, there are a lot of people out there who would really be convinced by evidence presented in a coherent way. A major problem with the chemtrail movement is that we lack a single message, we need to make that as basic as possible. Believe me, it blew my mind the first time I slowed my footage down and saw the orbs, etc. It will be really hard for mainstream people to swallow that information, hence the idea to collect this data and show people how widespread it is.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon going to school in toronto but i'm moving back to brantford ON in 2 weeks (wayne gretzky town)
i know what u mean about scaring ppl away with the fake plane thing- the way i see it is if they run away some will come back. if they don't, they are very out of touch with reality.
are u familiar with rod's channel FAKEPLANES near calgary?
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@Wakeupsleepyhead1984 Heh, it is my opinion that what people view as reality is really just a dream. So I hear ya. I dunno I do "professional work" on international activism and social movements.. so I was hoping it might help if we frame things broadly and try to be as inclusive as possible. I don't think people have to agree, but there has to be some sort of fundamental point: aerosols/polymers in the air would be a good central theme. I know of the fakeplanes channel yes, not much else tho.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon i think we both raise good points. i guess not everyone sees things the same as me. They're both good ideas lol. to me personally, i don't need to see documents. i just went for a walk and saw literally a fleet of 20 ufos pass over my neighbourhood; then 3-4 hanging around in the clouds. I knew there would be a lot because they've been spraying since 5am. here by the airport they act like they own the place (they technically do lol)
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@academianon wake up sleepy head is a disinfo shill. he was on "what in the world are they spraying" with the same "fake plane" angle.
hes trying to convince gullible young people that the planes are'nt real and thus are not a threat.
don't fall for this subtle trick
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Perhaps you should try investigating his claims before jumping to conclusions? I went for a long drive last time chemtrails cleared up and saw lots of weird blinking "planes" appearing out of nowhere, flying silently in the middle of the night in strange places. Check it out bro.
TrutherD1 1 year ago
carnicom already did everything you described over ten years ago
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Indeed, but did he collect information for a wider geographical area or just in Canada? Doing that offers a higher validity I suppose. Lots of people are doing tests, but we need to connect the information together and show it's over a wide global scale rather than only a few local places with high levels. Does that make sense?
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon he has samples from everywhere[he lives in new mexico] the samples from all over say basically the same thing.
I even had a sample done and I went to the EPA, but just nobody cares
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 Oh sorry, I was mixing him up with someone from Canada who does the same sort of stuff. Could you define "all over" like in the US? North America? Elsewhere? I'm a huge fan of Carnicom, but his website is a little tough to interpret for someone who is uninformed about the issue.
If we have lots of samples that's good, but we still need to put it all together and move on it collectively rather than a couple of people here or there. You know?
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon I know he does not put much effort into making his sight presentable, but the results are pretty straightforward. The stuff is everywhere and everyone is now effected by it, including presumably all life on Earth.
thats the gist of what he has found. Theres videos of tests I've seen from australia, california etc. because planes fly pretty much all over the world so the stuff is everywhere and the wind blows it around too
mikemb123 1 year ago
@mikemb123 I don't blame him, it's a lot of information and it's really the best it could be. I think you're definitely right, and honestly, if the testing has already been done we just need to organize the results and fill in any gaps (do tests in less populated areas for example). We need to make sure the testing is consistent across regions too.
The main point is that we put this all together in some sort of chart / report form and then disseminate it as widely as possible.
academianon 1 year ago
@academianon you should get a test done and tell all your friends and family about it and that they should do the same. Thats what I did. you are a brave young lady
mikemb123 1 year ago
If you prove there is product on the ground, you still have to make the connection to the source, the planes in the sky.
If it is being administered by plane, I think a focus should be put on the planes and the product they are using. Someone has to be manufacturing this stuff- who are they, who are their customers? Are there any pilots that could step up to testify that they see this as unusual from experience? Can these planes be caught on film before leaving the ground? .....
NAUresistance 1 year ago
Can close up photographs be taken of these suspected planes with some sort of telescope camera to identify them? Who owns these planes, where do they land?
Lots of other ways to get to the point a lot quicker.
I think your idea is great and there has to be evidence before I would believe it, but they are very interesting indeed!
NAUresistance 1 year ago
@NAUresistance there are closeups of these tankers- look at my holographic planes playlist. upclose u will find they are not real planes and an image of a plane is projected. the spray usually comes out of NOWHERE. they don't take off or land anywhere because, let's just say they don't play by the rules of gravity. it's not uncommon to see them disappear on the spot or go into a cloud and not come out the other side.
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 1 year ago
@NAUresistance I've personally observed through my binoculars that they're white unmarked planes, but to be honest.. I can't really see closely enough to determine this conclusively. I think these are all good suggestions, but I just think if we expose the barium/aluminum and other contaminants this will be really excellent ammo to expose other related issues (like who is doing this, who is manufacturing the materials, etc).
Whistleblowers are a huge missing link as well.
academianon 1 year ago
Hey, you're back! I'm making videos now if you haven't had a chance to check.
terr547 1 year ago
good video. I like how you bring up the fact that there must be hard evidence backing up chem trails. Extraordinary claims, Requires extraordinary evidence- Carl Sagan
EscApiNgTheVoiD 1 year ago 4
@EscApiNgTheVoiD Definitely, it's simply essential at this point to move from the fringe into a "legitimate" social movement. :)
academianon 1 year ago
I think it should go as far as Regional testing as well. For BC the soil water should be tested throughout the Lower mainland the Fraser Valley Peace River region Okanogan Thompson Rivers area etc etc. Using sterilized methods that are documented and recorded so that dispute of evidence or method is kept to a min. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your PHD
northerndisclosure 1 year ago
@northerndisclosure I would love to do more extensive testing, but to be honest.. we need to think of the costs involved. I've looked into water testing and that alone was a little bit expensive. So we might have to see how accessible government records are, and then decide how wide we'd test. In a place like Canada (and other larger countries) this will be a huge issue. O.o
Thanks, btw, I'm clearly masochistic I think. It's a fun gig until shit hits the fan ;D
academianon 1 year ago
well put!. ~r.
Reasonist 1 year ago
power to the people !
spellgrounds 1 year ago
nice to finally meet you.. the clouds here are looking stranger and stranger. I can tell just by looking at them that they are made from petrochemicals and polymers. Crap like that. God bless sweetheart
BarbarianRebellion 1 year ago
Long time no see, especially with those glasses .lol
Good to see you back!
I have a lot of photos, however what is needed is time delay footage to go with the test info you suggest. I'll put this video up on the World United News blog to help get the message out.
2minstral 1 year ago 3
@2minstral Yeah, timelapse is great. When I first started this I thought that video and photos would be enough to convince people. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be the case. We'll have to broaden our methods. Cheers :)
academianon 1 year ago