They wanted to be the Beatles, but they didn't have the talent. They were just puppets in a TV show. It went to their heads. So they were replaced by 2-D cartoons that had no ego.
@duffh Yes they were put on a TV show they KNEW this you can see the ad they answered on the web, it turned out they did have talent, popularity and WERE a real band with real music. No one ever said they were not on a TV show FIRST, obviously they had talent and learned much more along the way and were very popular, they did NOT want to be the Beatles.
I have seen Mickey, David, and Peter in concert live,.. i have seen their individual shows. Peter is an accomplished guitarist. Mickey is a accomplished drummer and guitarist. mike was with the Christy Minstrel at one time, he an accomplished guitarist and songwriter. It is not true that they could play their instruments. Davy just plays tambourine and sings. Both Davy and Mickey are gifted singers, mike is okay but does not have the greatest voice.They are all gifted performers.
Ok I see now, I notice in a lot of English movies guys use the "headbutt", which is a cowardly way of fighting. It is the equivalent of a "sucker punch".
Nobody argued, or pounded on each other more than the Davies brothers in The Kinks and they outlasted everyone but the Stones. Sometimes that works, most times it doesn't.
Yes, all 4 were musical, yet all were hired mainly for acting, a little bit for musical skills. Their undoing was, though, to fire Kirshner and do their own thing. Few of their own songs are really known to this day. for popularity, they are fine, but nothing like the era when Don hired songwriters, the Wrecking Crew, etc. However, they are back on tour now, and are great.
In the quote that starts at :32 "maybe sometimes you have to compromise and give up the commercial #1, in order to be a more satisfied artist DOING NUMBER TWO.", am I the only one that got the #2=shit reference? And btw, who is that? Bogdonavich?
most sixties groups got into fights,the Beatles had fights, john and Paul got into banging on each other, the rolling Stoes, the temptations, flo ballard of the supremes beat the crap out of diana ross several times, it's just the pressure, you can't take it out on the fans. so you attack each other
The tragedy of this shit is that literally 99% of us would GLADLY embrace the Pleasant Valley if we could only go and live there. this is the beginning of the end..affluence if OVER, and my only regret is that I was born in 1962, and was not able enough or ruthless enough to get a hunk of the cocaine and money pie in the 1980s. A life of misery, famine, disease, poverty and horror is coming. The sheep look up, and are not fed....
@Mozart1220 there's a fine line between being an optimist and being delusional to the point of ignoring what's right in front of you. The fact of the matter is while it may be a bitter pill to swallow, all the things that bearcat mentioned are now coming to pass and will only get worse. Corporate greed has run amok and is eroding whatever thin fiber still holds this system together. And little by little people will decide they've had enough. The protests on wall street are only the beginning.
@drlove1972 As soon as you said you regretted not doing cocaine, I realized you are 100% INSANE. I know more than one person who's lives were destroyed by that crap. Pot is one thing, but coke kills people. As for the rest of your rant, I'm glad you never got involved with coke. You are paranoid enough without it.
Issued statement reads due to "..irreconciliable differences...We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your continued support of The Monkees."
@Tarn1968 Hendrix opened for them in London and was booed off the stage believe it or not. The Monkees were quite upset that this happened to him. But Peter was just an acquaintance of his. Pete was in the crowd of Stephen Still and the NY folk scene more than anything else.
The biographer called their music more "idiosynchratic" towards the end: I call it more interesting and mature; in other words, finding their own voice. I wish they'd stayed together another year or two with a strong producer; we'll never know what kind of unique songs they would have produced.....
well the "monkees" were and are a progressive-minded group and there was some controversy about how "davey jones" fit into it. davey himself would probably agree; luckily davey jones made some great strides forward in spite of some past hindrances that tried to maintain their grasp on him.
Respond to this video... Please, too violent.. are we even talking about the same show? It was slapstick comedy with music videos in between. Never was it anything serious. And it was cancelled due to LOW ratings and arguing between the guys themselves and also between them and the producers. Do your history before posting things like it was *too violent*.. geez .. Did you even see the show, it was hilarious, I never missed an episode!!!
Hearing Rafelson pontificating on how The Monkees took less to get more - first of all, the first two albums they released after Kirshner was axed went to #1 - where The Monkees fell off was they had gotten so much exposure over the August 1966-December 1967 period that literally everyone got exhausted. And Rafelson didn't do them any favors with the movie - Peter summed it perfectly by noting it was an expression of Rafelson's bitter view of life, and while there are moments it did hurt them.
You know what? The bottom line was we who loved the Monkees didn't care who played what or who wrote what: it was the music, and it was fun and it touched us. Yes, ole Don Kirshner was a baddie and he wouldn't let them play on their records Wah-Wah-Wah!!! But the gentleman could pick the hits!!! Like to see ole Mike Nesmith & Peter Tork go up against Simon Cowell today; betcha they'd change their tune about Don Kirshner in a hearbeat!!!
@thefabulousthomasj Doubtful. Mike and Peter both have continued to make music long after The Monkees. Both still do in fact, and on their terms. In My humble opinion Simon only ever got Crystal Bowersox right. I knew Crystal before AI, and I am glad she is where she is today. Letting her finish second was a the best thing that ever happened to Crystal. She is less in American Idol's "debt", so to speak. More free to do it her way.
A lot of your good bands break up. Probbably due to creative differences. Someone usually always wants to do more than what they are doing. one thing with the monkees is that they didn't start off as friends; they were auditioning for a show because of the high ratings, turned them into a band as well. Mickey Dolenz used to get high with the Beatles. He said so in his book but despite everythng, the monkees were always great.
It's interesting that when people get together to feel cool with how much they know about the Monkees you always see Neil Diamond mentioned and nary a peep about Boyce and Hart.
You can not give up what you do not have - The MOnkeys never took "less" - this is all socialist history -re-write by liberal ass holes - The Monkeys elected to remain with their contract but did not receive the profits which they assumed a year before they would achieve. Popular taste in music changed & sales dropped off - profits declined & that left the Monkees with smaller pay checks. They did not give up anything, they still TOOK all they were given .
@simonbnyc Absolutely...All four of them wrote, or co wrote for the Monkees. All four of them sang. All four of them weathered the real ups and downs of being a band. Jann has his head up his ass. The Monkees were rock and roll and real. I don't know why there is even a debate about them belonging in the RARHOF.
@simonbnyc Agreed. it goes beyond the Monkees as well. I mean The Moody Blues, not inducted, nor members. Ted Nugent...yeah ya might hate the guy for his politics or hunting stance. ( I agree with both for the record) Still with the Amboy Dukes, as a solo artist, and with Damn Yankees, he has always rocked hard, and brought his best. Ted has a clear fan base, and in My opinion Ted deserves to be in there three times. Of course that would tie him with Eric Clapton, and that will not happen. ever
Can you imagine cute little Davy Jones in a fight against Peter Tork? What was Peter, like 6'8"? "Get back here Peter and I'll punch you in the belly button again!"
I think I own one of Peter Torks guitars, or so I was told. I got a great deal on it. It screams, ash body blond neck. You can see it in the video "Deep Blue dJinn in the studio, Jan 2011" .
They were originally hired as actors to play the part of a band of misfits - originally they never were a band - it was a TV show about a band - and they were only actors!!!! None (except Nesmith) played any instrument. And Nesmith's mom invented "White Out" and sold it for about $35 million - so Nesmith no longer needed the money!!! Neil Diamond wrote a lot of their music!!
@Earthlinked Actually Peter was a virtuoso instrumentally. He could play guitar, bass, keys,banjo, and all before becoming a Monkee. He was a personal friend of Stephen Stills. In fact it was Stephen who suggested Peter audition. After Stephen himself had auditioned and not gotten the part, Davy had a long history of musical theater.
@finylvinyl66 The bottom line is the bottom line - ALL 4 OFTHEM - applied to be in a weekly TV comedy series - as actors - acting as a band of musicians!!!!!! They didn't even know each other before the TV show!!! They were NOT a band - they were 4 actors looking for work - and were selected on their looks and acting ability - NOT their musucal abilities!!!!!!! They were put together ONLY to be in a comedy TV show!!!!!!!!!!
@finylvinyl66 But they were ALL cast as actors because they were actors - NOT musicians!!!!! They simply ran into an acting part that they could make a living at - (except Nesmith - whose mother invented the product "White Out" and sold the company for millions) - so they took avantage of it. NONE of them were accomplished musicians before they got the ACTING role as the Monkeees - they were simply 4 actors that got a part in a TV role as musicians!!!!!
@tryithere NO - they really could NOT play - they get the parts for the TV show NOT becasue they were musciains - but ONLY becasue they were actors - PERIOD!!! The only person with ANY musical training was Nesmith - he had played guitar - but he was an ACTOR - not a musician!!!!!!!! And of course when they figured out that they could make even more money touring as a band - so OF COURSE they learned an instrument - that meant more money for them!!! I'd learn how to play a guitar also!!!!!
@Earthlinked They got the roles as actors but they could all play except Dolenz who learned how to play the drums. Don Kirshner didn't want them to play and augmented them on the the first 1 or 2 albums. It was one of the reasons Kirschner was fired after the first season.
@tryithere Yes - they COULD hold an instrument and make a sound with it - but they were nowhere close to good musicians!! Nesmith was the ONLY musician - and he played the guitar - and on a 1 to 10 scale - he'd never rank above 5! Eventually - they did play their instruments in concerts - but by then the joke was over - and the gig was up!! But they do get the "most times disbanded" award - OFFICIALLY probably 5 or 6 times - ALWAYS brought back by the MONEY! They were ACTORS - NOT musicians!!!
@Earthlinked clearly you're lacking in your monkee knowledge. micky played the guitar prior to the monkees, but was, as you said, an actor. mike and peter played multiple instruments (PETER was the one with formal training prior to the monkees, with many instruments under his belt), and neither were 'actors'. no amount of caps lock or extraneous exclamation points are going to bring your point home. seriously, just stop. you're a fucking adult, so act like one.
@bd9598 It was also in the 1960's - an NEW VW Beetle cost $1,995!!!! Today that same VW Beetle cost about $25,000 - so it was lilke they were making about $7,000 per week today - and for UNestablished actors - that was a greta payday!!!!!
@Philtration I agree about Dolenz. Of all the Monkees, he was VERY underrated as a talent. His lead vocals were always edgey, and that's what made made him good.
@Philtration Micky Dolenz did most of the Monkees lead vocals and had and has a great voice. He was/is such a great singer. Dolenz was the "sound" of the Monkees for sure!
@Philtration I always gave Dolenz a lot of credit because he wasn't blessed with a particularly good voice yet was a very effective lead singer. He was also a very funny guy.
If have not already done so, check out the movie HEAD, which is chock full of Monkees songs performed by... The Monkees. It addresses the "manufactured" image and their struggle for control. There's even a Frank Zappa cameo...
If have not already done so, check out the movie HEAD, which is chock full of Monkees songs performed by... The Monkees. It addresses the "manufactured" image and their struggle for control. There's even a Frank Zappa cameo...
Interestingly enough, I remember seeing the Monkees perform "Goin' Down" on the Johnny Carson show. Davy was playing drums. As a drummer myself, I was blown away! That song is not an easy groove to play, and he played it tight as can be.
all you have to do is listen to the first 5 albums i was born in 1968 the year before 1967 was monkeemania headquarters was number 1 an album they wanted to do themselves even letting it be know that other musicians played with them it dropped to # 2 where it sat for the next 11 weeks-the entire "SUMMER OF LOVE"-right under the beatles "SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND" not to shabby for a fake band and bye years end under the chirstmas tree my favorite album "PISCES,AQUARIUS,CAPRICORN.....
I don't understand why people want to throw off on the Monkees songs.The majority of the songs were written by multi talented song writers of the day,which were Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart as well as Mike Nesmith himself.People need to really listen to the words in many of these songs and understand the idea behind the songs.For instance,Shades of Gray from The Monkees Headquarters album.The song speaks of a time when things were black and white,good and bad.(I will continue as a reply to myself)
@thecoolestdad (I continue here),But as the 60's progressed,things began to change and people were starting to see things as a shady gray area.In other words,things were beginning to become more as a "whatever feels good,do it" attitude with society.Nothing was bad anymore.No more cut and dried good and bad.Another is Pleasant Valley Sunday.This song represented typical America of the 60's.it was a "keeping up with the Joneses song." All of their songs were not all "bubble gum" "kiddie" songs.
@thecoolestdad Yes,many of them were.But you've got to remember that this was the 60's,when teens and pre-teens had their idols and we kids always got up early on saturday mornings to watch our favorite cartoons and kids variety shows,and the Monkees was one of them.Even today,all rock stars and solo artists do not write all of their own songs.But the Monkees were definitely not a 60's Milli Vanilli faked lip-sync band.Every member had talent.They were just never given a chance to prove it.
@thecoolestdad All of the Monkees have musical instrument talent and can play several instruments each.But as each album progressed with the times,they relied on professional studio musicians to play the music while they did the vocals.The same is also true of the Osmonds.They all have multi instrument talent,but now choose to be out front and sing while a band plays for them.No difference.So where people want to throw off on the Monkees,they do it in ignorance.Because this band.........next
@thecoolestdad Because this band was orginally formed as a fake tv show band and was probably never expected to do anything more than the tv show.But due to great song writing and great studio musicians,these songs stood on their own,and as the albums were put out,fans of the tv show,began to buy the albums which caused the Monkees to become a 60's phenomenon and has actually outlasted the test of time.They went from a fake tv band,to a full-fledged actual band with great songs that will live on
The "myth" that they couldn't play is way way blown out of proportion. The fact is Mike, and Peter were both hired for their musical skills. Davey had a long history of musical theater in his background. Mickey could even play the drums, to an extent when they started. Peter was given the heads up on the auditions from Stephen Stills. These four guys had real talent, and are not the frauds history has made them out to be.
@Beatnikzombie Yeah. I agree, but I doubt you or I will ever see them get the credit or the accolades they truly deserve. However I still stand by my personal boycott of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I don't care if I end up being the only person on the face of the earth that never gets there. The Monkees are one of two artists they RaRHoF refuses to acknowledge. it may be a protest of one. It may even remain that way, but I will never go there.
@GonzoGuyy You are SO RIGHT on every point ! So many people compared them to the Beatles.....(ie, The Pre-Fab Four)...which was so unfair. John Lennon himself gave them a very prestigious compliment when he said the were the Marx Brothers of rock n roll...their comic timing was impeccable. And they WERE musicians in their own right. Headquarters is a dynamite album still ! Zilch.
@GonzoGuyy The best part is that today nobody gives a darn whether performers can play instruments or write their own material. It's all about looks, sex appeal, vocal shennanigans and dancing nowadays. They didn't care about that stuff back in the day either until the Beatles came along. The Monkees actually did write an awful lot of their own stuff too. In fact, Mike wrote 2 songs on the very 1st album and Peter played guitar on those songs. Micky is still 1 of the best singers of all!
I try nt to make a big deal out of things In a way I wish I could go back to the sixties to c what it was like along with the singing groups. The Monkees r awsome and i'm nt just saing that from a fans point of view either.
Which Monkee sings on the song Shades of Gray the words "Only Shades of Gray", Was it Peter? This has been unsettling me for decades! Musicologists please respond!
@johnnykew1 Sure sounds like Peter to me. While the Monkees did not write this song, they did write the arrangement heard on this song. In fact they did it in the studio, and as a group. Not bad for a bunch for prefab frauds. Not what I think of them. Unfortunately many others feel this way.
It's a shame that people have to argue over these things. I know everyone has a right to their own opinion. Just let it go. I dearly love the Monkees, especially Davy. I'm a grandma, nearly 54 years old now. But, when I am sad, or really down, I can go in my room, turn on a Monkee CD, and like magic, I'm a young girl again. I still know the words to nearly all their songs. Just yesterday, I was thrilled to see my 4 year old granddaughter rocking her little heart out to my Monkees!
@micmoable Yes! This has been very well documented. Mike and Peter both were hired for their musical abilities. Mike had written for every Monkees album. In addition to a lot of solo stuff. he also wrote Different Drum, which was a huge hit for The Stone Ponies featuring Linda Rondstat. Davy had a long history of musical theater in England. Each of the four had some sort of musical talent. They did go on to become a real band. They toured in 67/68,AND played their instruments on tour.
True, these guys began as a studio manufactured product, but they were actually quite talented and had plenty of ideas for the direction they wanted to take their music. Like the Beatles, they got tired of where the Big-Money Mother Ship wanted to keep taking them again and again and again is all.
@bellier20 Again, this has been well documented. There is, or was a wealth of unreleased Monkees product that Colgems deemed to be unworthy of release. didn't fit the corporate image of what the Monkees were supposed to be.
Don't you wish they could be recognized by the industry for the talented guys that they are? I know they will probably never get into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (like a lot of others I could list who SHOULD be there...) but don't you wish they were?
@PecanSandees23 This is one of two reasons I am calling for a boycott of the RaRHoF. The Monkees are more worthy of being in the Hall of Fame, than many many other inductees.
@vampyros1 Actually, braniac, as a musician myself, I like all kinds personally. From what I`ve seen over the years, don`t get much more harmless than the Monkees. And yourself, of course.
@estyle40 It takes an idiot to think of music in terms of what is "harmful" and "harmless". Clearly, somebody's missing the point. LOL Get back to your howler monkeys Goober-
@estyle40 Go listen through "Randy Scouse Git" (the title of which actually got censored in foreign releases), "Shorty Blackwell", and both versions of "Mommy and Daddy"; then come back & talk to me about "harmless."
(And those are just songs that Micky wrote! Don't even get me started on Nez & Peter, much less some of the other songwriters the band used!)
I read somewhere about the blowup between Pete and Davy. But I harbor fond memories of the Monkees, and with all the artists we're losing now, I'm praying that all four of the guys are with us for a long time to come.
The Monkees best music came out of the two albums they performed as a band together. I couldn't care less if any of the songs went to #1 or not, those are the albums you can listen to and say "Hey, they could really play". After that they got too eclectic and went off on their own and did their own thing, and from there, aside from some great moments like "Circle Sky" and "Listen To the Band" it was a mixed bag.
MICHAEL NESMITH WROTE SOME SONGS... He is a talent in his own right.. If you want to know who the major asshole is DONNIE KERSHNER.. They had no control in the studio at the start.. After Donnie got fired, he had the animated Group "The Archies" I think that noob wanted a group he could control.. A Puppet job if you will.. After Headquarters came and went they went back to Studio backing for the most part til the end in 70s.
You may think I am a cunt and all that BUT I am not the only one that feels that way about Davy... But some of you woman are blinded by the fact that he is the one that got the girls that can't stand the thought of Davy doing something wrong... PLEASE... Give me a break... I said my bit on it and I am going to respond no forther on this...
I'm sure he's done alot of things that were wrong but so have all of us. Just because he was the heartthrob of the group doesn't mean he's a conceited, arrogant jerk. He might have been the one to get the girls on the show but that doesn't mean he was like that in real life.
They all get that way, to be in that business & last I think you have to be a fry short of happy meal upstairs anyway. Davy was the one all the chicks drooled over, ofcourse it would go to his head...
They did write hit songs asswipe. Apparently you know little or nothing about the Monkees. They weren't allowed to play on their first albums. Both Mike and Peter were accomplished musicians. Actually Davy was a better drummer than Micky (Micky had to learn to play the drums for his part on the Monkees.) but they felt he was too short to sit behind the drums. The Monkees played their own instruments on Headquarters.
You make no sense. There are alot of talented musicians out there that have never had a #1 hit. No they didn't write any of their number #1 songs but most of their albums were #1 and there were many songs written by the Monkees on them. Just so you know genius, Mike is one of the people credited with creating country rock. The Monkees were one of the most popular bands in the 60's and they still have a huge following. Don't like it, too bad. Your opinion means nothing.
Davy has a big head.... I have heard stories that he can be a jerk at times... I DON'T CARE HOW BAD A DAY YOU HAVE.. BOTTLE UP YOUR PISSY ATTITUDE TIL YOU GET HOME...I tried to meet him at a meet and Greet in 01 and he never came out.. He was mad at someone... too bad Pete's punch didn't take Dave down some... I think that Davy thinks that the monkees was a waste of his talent and that he thought that it was below him... He should have stayed a jock.
DEAD SERIOUS PAL... I have heard similer stories from other longtime fans... I just told you what I experienced and talked about others who had some bad experiences.. So Joe... Why don't you be a good little man and TAKE A hike... To you I am a bitch and PROUD OF IT BUDDY...
I think you're making the mistake of judging him without having walked in his shoes. Maybe you and other fans caught him on a bad day. I don't know any more than you do. I just have a problem when anybody gets labeled a 'jerk' (or similar) as if that is the truth. The truth is that he's human. Take all those 'stories' you heard with a big grain of salt. I personally think being a celebrity would be a drag and I'm sure it makes everyone a little pissy at times. Now take a hike!
I don't see how you have any room to talk about Davy or anyone else for that matter. It's obvious that you are a jerk. I also know many longtime fans and have heard that Davy is a real sweetheart.
So you know Davy personally? I went to a Stevie Nicks concert years ago and she never came backstage after a large group of people waited over an hour to see her. Do you think I hold it against her. She and Davy are only human after all.
Wow, you really are intelligent and classy (not). It's obvious that you're as dumb as a box of rocks and have no taste. Do you really think anyone cares what you have to say you moronic piece of crap? BTW--go back to school and learn how to write. You have the IQ of a slug.
I remember a storey when Tork was working at "The Great American Food and Beverage Co." My friends did not have enough money to pay their tip. They reached into their purses...found every last cent they had and left it for Tork. He then followed them into the parking lot and threw all the coins they'd left him, at them.
Sorry, but it's true.
This was in Santa Monica, Ca. (If my memory serves me) probably about 30 years ago or more. So yeah, I suppose Tork was torked.
I don't think it's true at all that Davy was the "diva" of the band. I just heard a commentary made by Bobby Hart (on the video of the Monkees on their first tour). Boyce and Hart were the opening act (I believe the name of their group was the Candy Store Prophets.). The Monkees meals, etc. were paid by the show but the powers that be did not pay the bills of the Candy Store Prophets. Davy felt bad about the situation and made sure they didn't have to pay for their own meals.
You can't compare them to Milli Vanilli who lip-synced to someone else's work. The Monkees actually sang on the records. So what if they used studio musicians and outside songwriters at first? So did all those Motown acts who are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! Point is Mike Nesmith is a gifted songwriter, Peter Tork is a gifted mult-instrumentalist, and Mickey Dolenz has one of the great pop voices of all time. I suppose the criticism of Davey Jones is warranted, though
I agree with you except for what you said about Davy Jones. I think he is a very talented singer. He was even nominated for a Tony Award when he was in the play Oliver. Not only is he a great singer but he is also a very good actor. As far as I'm concerned they're all great musicians, singers and actors. It was the combination of the four that made this group and the TV show so special.
They wanted to be the Beatles, but they didn't have the talent. They were just puppets in a TV show. It went to their heads. So they were replaced by 2-D cartoons that had no ego.
duffh 1 month ago
@duffh Yes they were put on a TV show they KNEW this you can see the ad they answered on the web, it turned out they did have talent, popularity and WERE a real band with real music. No one ever said they were not on a TV show FIRST, obviously they had talent and learned much more along the way and were very popular, they did NOT want to be the Beatles.
bd9598 2 weeks ago in playlist Most Popular
Who is speaking at 0:37? At first I thought it might be Richard Deacon, but I'm not so sure.
cepson 2 months ago
The original Spinal Tap.
SDChargersFreak 2 months ago
Micky Dolenz had a near perfect rock voice, utterly distinctive and capable of both power and nuance.
I like to think he would have made a mark in the classic rock world with or without the Monkees.
dannycia 3 months ago
@dannycia Without the Monkees, I don't think he would have come anywhere
close to classic rock. Dolenz was an actor who turned out to have real musical
talent, and I agree that he was a very capable lead singer.
finylvinyl66 2 months ago
I have seen Mickey, David, and Peter in concert live,.. i have seen their individual shows. Peter is an accomplished guitarist. Mickey is a accomplished drummer and guitarist. mike was with the Christy Minstrel at one time, he an accomplished guitarist and songwriter. It is not true that they could play their instruments. Davy just plays tambourine and sings. Both Davy and Mickey are gifted singers, mike is okay but does not have the greatest voice.They are all gifted performers.
123markym 3 months ago
Slow acoustic song at the end?
TopherBlairMusic 3 months ago
What does Davy say at 1:10?
GTVAlfaMan 3 months ago
@GTVAlfaMan I aint quite sure. But, it kinda sounds like " Kiss my ass ", so to speak !
mrstevehartman 3 months ago
@GTVAlfaMan He said, " I GAVE HIM A MANCHESTER KISS " which is British for a headbutt. Usually called a British Kiss.
RataeRoy 3 months ago
@RataeRoy
Ok I see now, I notice in a lot of English movies guys use the "headbutt", which is a cowardly way of fighting. It is the equivalent of a "sucker punch".
GTVAlfaMan 3 months ago
Nobody argued, or pounded on each other more than the Davies brothers in The Kinks and they outlasted everyone but the Stones. Sometimes that works, most times it doesn't.
lBStrokin 3 months ago
Yes, all 4 were musical, yet all were hired mainly for acting, a little bit for musical skills. Their undoing was, though, to fire Kirshner and do their own thing. Few of their own songs are really known to this day. for popularity, they are fine, but nothing like the era when Don hired songwriters, the Wrecking Crew, etc. However, they are back on tour now, and are great.
SeattleLA 4 months ago
In the quote that starts at :32 "maybe sometimes you have to compromise and give up the commercial #1, in order to be a more satisfied artist DOING NUMBER TWO.", am I the only one that got the #2=shit reference? And btw, who is that? Bogdonavich?
3shiftgtr 4 months ago
most sixties groups got into fights,the Beatles had fights, john and Paul got into banging on each other, the rolling Stoes, the temptations, flo ballard of the supremes beat the crap out of diana ross several times, it's just the pressure, you can't take it out on the fans. so you attack each other
etrax2000 4 months ago
@etrax2000 It was Ringo first, then George that walked out at the beginning of the end.
bd9598 2 weeks ago
The tragedy of this shit is that literally 99% of us would GLADLY embrace the Pleasant Valley if we could only go and live there. this is the beginning of the end..affluence if OVER, and my only regret is that I was born in 1962, and was not able enough or ruthless enough to get a hunk of the cocaine and money pie in the 1980s. A life of misery, famine, disease, poverty and horror is coming. The sheep look up, and are not fed....
TheBearcat222 4 months ago
@TheBearcat222 Always the optimist aren't you?
Mozart1220 4 months ago
@Mozart1220 there's a fine line between being an optimist and being delusional to the point of ignoring what's right in front of you. The fact of the matter is while it may be a bitter pill to swallow, all the things that bearcat mentioned are now coming to pass and will only get worse. Corporate greed has run amok and is eroding whatever thin fiber still holds this system together. And little by little people will decide they've had enough. The protests on wall street are only the beginning.
drlove1972 4 months ago
@drlove1972 As soon as you said you regretted not doing cocaine, I realized you are 100% INSANE. I know more than one person who's lives were destroyed by that crap. Pot is one thing, but coke kills people. As for the rest of your rant, I'm glad you never got involved with coke. You are paranoid enough without it.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
Get all the background and hype out of the picture and base a band on the music. The Monkees made GREAT music.
MrTolerHimself 5 months ago
Greed the root of all evil...fame and fortune have I none, but I have something that money can't buy...Salvation.
Ninetyandnine 5 months ago
Newsflash, Aug.8, 2011:
Remaining dates for 45th Anniv. tour cancelled.
Issued statement reads due to "..irreconciliable differences...We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your continued support of The Monkees."
steve7138 5 months ago
@Tarn1968 Hendrix opened for them in London and was booed off the stage believe it or not. The Monkees were quite upset that this happened to him. But Peter was just an acquaintance of his. Pete was in the crowd of Stephen Still and the NY folk scene more than anything else.
andysdesire 5 months ago
What was the song at the beginning?
zipzip101able 6 months ago
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andysdesire 5 months ago
he song is *Randy Scouse Git*.....
andysdesire 5 months ago
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Wubble64 5 months ago
@zipzip101able Randy Scouse I believe.
Wubble64 5 months ago
@Wubble64 Randy Scouse Git ***
TheMonkeesRock 4 months ago
@zipzip101able It was Randy Scouse Git
TheMonkeesRock 4 months ago
The biographer called their music more "idiosynchratic" towards the end: I call it more interesting and mature; in other words, finding their own voice. I wish they'd stayed together another year or two with a strong producer; we'll never know what kind of unique songs they would have produced.....
MaskedMarvyl 9 months ago 5
i thought we were gonna see them really fight.
starrfisher 9 months ago
just a suggestion try to locate mike nesmith's audition video, it may be here on Youtube it is hilarious.
ksharpe10 9 months ago
well the "monkees" were and are a progressive-minded group and there was some controversy about how "davey jones" fit into it. davey himself would probably agree; luckily davey jones made some great strides forward in spite of some past hindrances that tried to maintain their grasp on him.
deritpeehs 9 months ago
7 people are related to Don Kirshner
muchthemore 9 months ago
@muchthemore That made Me laugh. Good one.
GonzoGuyy 9 months ago
@GonzoGuyy Thanks, GG; I get lucky sometimes...:)
muchthemore 9 months ago
"Headquarters" was the first Monkees record I bought...kinda just for ha-has...I loved it...it's still one of my favorite records.
GrandFunker 9 months ago
the show was violent, too violent for kids.
that is why they were canceled.
k77jones 10 months ago
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andysdesire 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Please, too violent.. are we even talking about the same show? It was slapstick comedy with music videos in between. Never was it anything serious. And it was cancelled due to LOW ratings and arguing between the guys themselves and also between them and the producers. Do your history before posting things like it was *too violent*.. geez .. Did you even see the show, it was hilarious, I never missed an episode!!!
andysdesire 5 months ago
Hearing Rafelson pontificating on how The Monkees took less to get more - first of all, the first two albums they released after Kirshner was axed went to #1 - where The Monkees fell off was they had gotten so much exposure over the August 1966-December 1967 period that literally everyone got exhausted. And Rafelson didn't do them any favors with the movie - Peter summed it perfectly by noting it was an expression of Rafelson's bitter view of life, and while there are moments it did hurt them.
STP43FAN1 10 months ago
You know what? The bottom line was we who loved the Monkees didn't care who played what or who wrote what: it was the music, and it was fun and it touched us. Yes, ole Don Kirshner was a baddie and he wouldn't let them play on their records Wah-Wah-Wah!!! But the gentleman could pick the hits!!! Like to see ole Mike Nesmith & Peter Tork go up against Simon Cowell today; betcha they'd change their tune about Don Kirshner in a hearbeat!!!
thefabulousthomasj 10 months ago
@thefabulousthomasj Doubtful. Mike and Peter both have continued to make music long after The Monkees. Both still do in fact, and on their terms. In My humble opinion Simon only ever got Crystal Bowersox right. I knew Crystal before AI, and I am glad she is where she is today. Letting her finish second was a the best thing that ever happened to Crystal. She is less in American Idol's "debt", so to speak. More free to do it her way.
GonzoGuyy 9 months ago
I never cared that much for Davey I liked Mickey and Nesmith were the real talent.
Nesmith wrote songs for a lot of bands/singers e.g. Ronstadt, Carpenters, etc.
If you have the albums see who the "writers" are and you'll see his name. I'm pretty sure it was Nesmith idea for MTV also.
Solitaire401 10 months ago
A lot of your good bands break up. Probbably due to creative differences. Someone usually always wants to do more than what they are doing. one thing with the monkees is that they didn't start off as friends; they were auditioning for a show because of the high ratings, turned them into a band as well. Mickey Dolenz used to get high with the Beatles. He said so in his book but despite everythng, the monkees were always great.
youngpoet1972 10 months ago
@camoflaugetampex
So the Beatles and the Stones sounded like Dolenz?
Maybe in your little world.
Philtration 10 months ago 4
Does anyone know if a person can purchase this show on DVD?
trocaria 10 months ago
It's interesting that when people get together to feel cool with how much they know about the Monkees you always see Neil Diamond mentioned and nary a peep about Boyce and Hart.
pmgruhn 11 months ago
You can not give up what you do not have - The MOnkeys never took "less" - this is all socialist history -re-write by liberal ass holes - The Monkeys elected to remain with their contract but did not receive the profits which they assumed a year before they would achieve. Popular taste in music changed & sales dropped off - profits declined & that left the Monkees with smaller pay checks. They did not give up anything, they still TOOK all they were given .
rentatrip1 11 months ago
True or not, I always thought the term "Prefab Four' was a pretty clever.
jln55 11 months ago
Number 2?
sp0rtscenter32 1 year ago
saw the monkees play at the boston garden when i was a 9 year old kid.
it was an interesting way to begin my musical journey, oh and the opening act
was some guy wildly playing the guitar. he got booed off stage, think his name
was hendrix......
jivetalkin03 1 year ago
OK let's stop here. The Monkees used the same session musicians as the Beach Boys and the Byrds. Jann Wenner is a sellout and a hypocrite.
simonbnyc 1 year ago
@simonbnyc Absolutely...All four of them wrote, or co wrote for the Monkees. All four of them sang. All four of them weathered the real ups and downs of being a band. Jann has his head up his ass. The Monkees were rock and roll and real. I don't know why there is even a debate about them belonging in the RARHOF.
GonzoGuyy 10 months ago
@simonbnyc Agreed. it goes beyond the Monkees as well. I mean The Moody Blues, not inducted, nor members. Ted Nugent...yeah ya might hate the guy for his politics or hunting stance. ( I agree with both for the record) Still with the Amboy Dukes, as a solo artist, and with Damn Yankees, he has always rocked hard, and brought his best. Ted has a clear fan base, and in My opinion Ted deserves to be in there three times. Of course that would tie him with Eric Clapton, and that will not happen. ever
GonzoGuyy 9 months ago
Can you imagine cute little Davy Jones in a fight against Peter Tork? What was Peter, like 6'8"? "Get back here Peter and I'll punch you in the belly button again!"
mmcfreds 1 year ago
I think I own one of Peter Torks guitars, or so I was told. I got a great deal on it. It screams, ash body blond neck. You can see it in the video "Deep Blue dJinn in the studio, Jan 2011" .
DeepBlueDJinn 1 year ago
@DeepBlueDJinn That's so cool.
PlaymateMama 1 year ago
They were originally hired as actors to play the part of a band of misfits - originally they never were a band - it was a TV show about a band - and they were only actors!!!! None (except Nesmith) played any instrument. And Nesmith's mom invented "White Out" and sold it for about $35 million - so Nesmith no longer needed the money!!! Neil Diamond wrote a lot of their music!!
Earthlinked 1 year ago
@Earthlinked Actually Peter was a virtuoso instrumentally. He could play guitar, bass, keys,banjo, and all before becoming a Monkee. He was a personal friend of Stephen Stills. In fact it was Stephen who suggested Peter audition. After Stephen himself had auditioned and not gotten the part, Davy had a long history of musical theater.
GonzoGuyy 10 months ago
@Earthlinked Nesmith and Tork were real musicians before the show. Jones had
(non-rock and roll) singing experience. Dolenz just turned out to be a musical
natural and turned into a very effective lead singer and decent drummer.
finylvinyl66 2 months ago
@finylvinyl66 The bottom line is the bottom line - ALL 4 OFTHEM - applied to be in a weekly TV comedy series - as actors - acting as a band of musicians!!!!!! They didn't even know each other before the TV show!!! They were NOT a band - they were 4 actors looking for work - and were selected on their looks and acting ability - NOT their musucal abilities!!!!!!! They were put together ONLY to be in a comedy TV show!!!!!!!!!!
Earthlinked 2 months ago
@Earthlinked I know all of that. It just happened that two of the four were
accomplished musicians. And they got tired of being in a pretend band.
finylvinyl66 2 months ago
@finylvinyl66 But they were ALL cast as actors because they were actors - NOT musicians!!!!! They simply ran into an acting part that they could make a living at - (except Nesmith - whose mother invented the product "White Out" and sold the company for millions) - so they took avantage of it. NONE of them were accomplished musicians before they got the ACTING role as the Monkeees - they were simply 4 actors that got a part in a TV role as musicians!!!!!
Earthlinked 2 months ago
@Earthlinked But they could actually play except for Dolenz who learned how to play the drums. Maybe not on that upper level but they could play.
tryithere 2 months ago
@tryithere NO - they really could NOT play - they get the parts for the TV show NOT becasue they were musciains - but ONLY becasue they were actors - PERIOD!!! The only person with ANY musical training was Nesmith - he had played guitar - but he was an ACTOR - not a musician!!!!!!!! And of course when they figured out that they could make even more money touring as a band - so OF COURSE they learned an instrument - that meant more money for them!!! I'd learn how to play a guitar also!!!!!
Earthlinked 2 months ago
@Earthlinked They got the roles as actors but they could all play except Dolenz who learned how to play the drums. Don Kirshner didn't want them to play and augmented them on the the first 1 or 2 albums. It was one of the reasons Kirschner was fired after the first season.
tryithere 2 months ago
@tryithere Yes - they COULD hold an instrument and make a sound with it - but they were nowhere close to good musicians!! Nesmith was the ONLY musician - and he played the guitar - and on a 1 to 10 scale - he'd never rank above 5! Eventually - they did play their instruments in concerts - but by then the joke was over - and the gig was up!! But they do get the "most times disbanded" award - OFFICIALLY probably 5 or 6 times - ALWAYS brought back by the MONEY! They were ACTORS - NOT musicians!!!
Earthlinked 2 months ago
@Earthlinked clearly you're lacking in your monkee knowledge. micky played the guitar prior to the monkees, but was, as you said, an actor. mike and peter played multiple instruments (PETER was the one with formal training prior to the monkees, with many instruments under his belt), and neither were 'actors'. no amount of caps lock or extraneous exclamation points are going to bring your point home. seriously, just stop. you're a fucking adult, so act like one.
DontForgetTrousers 1 month ago
@Earthlinked read about the whopping $400 a week they made......
bd9598 2 weeks ago in playlist Most Popular
@bd9598 It was also in the 1960's - an NEW VW Beetle cost $1,995!!!! Today that same VW Beetle cost about $25,000 - so it was lilke they were making about $7,000 per week today - and for UNestablished actors - that was a greta payday!!!!!
Earthlinked 2 weeks ago
Micky Dolenz made them a real band because he gave them a sound that was different from everyone else. Underrated voice.
Philtration 1 year ago 17
@Philtration I agree about Dolenz. Of all the Monkees, he was VERY underrated as a talent. His lead vocals were always edgey, and that's what made made him good.
DJKhrome 3 months ago
@Philtration Micky Dolenz did most of the Monkees lead vocals and had and has a great voice. He was/is such a great singer. Dolenz was the "sound" of the Monkees for sure!
maliburide 3 months ago
@Philtration I always gave Dolenz a lot of credit because he wasn't blessed with a particularly good voice yet was a very effective lead singer. He was also a very funny guy.
finylvinyl66 2 months ago
@finylvinyl66 Davy Jones was the lead singer, NOT Micky Dolenz, just to clarify! :) Pesky Facts... Gotta hate 'em! Lol
buck6233 2 months ago
@buck6233 Micky sang lead on a number of their songs.
tryithere 2 months ago
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If have not already done so, check out the movie HEAD, which is chock full of Monkees songs performed by... The Monkees. It addresses the "manufactured" image and their struggle for control. There's even a Frank Zappa cameo...
Good stuff.
FontyFlock 1 year ago
If have not already done so, check out the movie HEAD, which is chock full of Monkees songs performed by... The Monkees. It addresses the "manufactured" image and their struggle for control. There's even a Frank Zappa cameo...
Good stuff.
FontyFlock 1 year ago
Interestingly enough, I remember seeing the Monkees perform "Goin' Down" on the Johnny Carson show. Davy was playing drums. As a drummer myself, I was blown away! That song is not an easy groove to play, and he played it tight as can be.
torsogong 1 year ago
all you have to do is listen to the first 5 albums i was born in 1968 the year before 1967 was monkeemania headquarters was number 1 an album they wanted to do themselves even letting it be know that other musicians played with them it dropped to # 2 where it sat for the next 11 weeks-the entire "SUMMER OF LOVE"-right under the beatles "SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND" not to shabby for a fake band and bye years end under the chirstmas tree my favorite album "PISCES,AQUARIUS,CAPRICORN.....
68beano 1 year ago
@68beano good to see that i wasn't the only one born in that year...lol
sr71ablackbird 1 year ago
How frickin bored did Michael Nesmith look?
johnbonham92580 1 year ago
I don't understand why people want to throw off on the Monkees songs.The majority of the songs were written by multi talented song writers of the day,which were Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart as well as Mike Nesmith himself.People need to really listen to the words in many of these songs and understand the idea behind the songs.For instance,Shades of Gray from The Monkees Headquarters album.The song speaks of a time when things were black and white,good and bad.(I will continue as a reply to myself)
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
@thecoolestdad (I continue here),But as the 60's progressed,things began to change and people were starting to see things as a shady gray area.In other words,things were beginning to become more as a "whatever feels good,do it" attitude with society.Nothing was bad anymore.No more cut and dried good and bad.Another is Pleasant Valley Sunday.This song represented typical America of the 60's.it was a "keeping up with the Joneses song." All of their songs were not all "bubble gum" "kiddie" songs.
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
@thecoolestdad Yes,many of them were.But you've got to remember that this was the 60's,when teens and pre-teens had their idols and we kids always got up early on saturday mornings to watch our favorite cartoons and kids variety shows,and the Monkees was one of them.Even today,all rock stars and solo artists do not write all of their own songs.But the Monkees were definitely not a 60's Milli Vanilli faked lip-sync band.Every member had talent.They were just never given a chance to prove it.
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
@thecoolestdad All of the Monkees have musical instrument talent and can play several instruments each.But as each album progressed with the times,they relied on professional studio musicians to play the music while they did the vocals.The same is also true of the Osmonds.They all have multi instrument talent,but now choose to be out front and sing while a band plays for them.No difference.So where people want to throw off on the Monkees,they do it in ignorance.Because this band.........next
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
@thecoolestdad Because this band was orginally formed as a fake tv show band and was probably never expected to do anything more than the tv show.But due to great song writing and great studio musicians,these songs stood on their own,and as the albums were put out,fans of the tv show,began to buy the albums which caused the Monkees to become a 60's phenomenon and has actually outlasted the test of time.They went from a fake tv band,to a full-fledged actual band with great songs that will live on
thecoolestdad 1 year ago
?!? They were force fed their music training after a public rejection because of their lip syncing. It didn't "take guts". It was the job.
dusc2don 1 year ago
this is from an excellent documentary... man, i love these guys. they [with some other people] made some great records.
76sagi 1 year ago
The "myth" that they couldn't play is way way blown out of proportion. The fact is Mike, and Peter were both hired for their musical skills. Davey had a long history of musical theater in his background. Mickey could even play the drums, to an extent when they started. Peter was given the heads up on the auditions from Stephen Stills. These four guys had real talent, and are not the frauds history has made them out to be.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago 58
@GonzoGuyy And you'd think people would know that by now.
Beatnikzombie 1 year ago
@Beatnikzombie Yeah. I agree, but I doubt you or I will ever see them get the credit or the accolades they truly deserve. However I still stand by my personal boycott of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I don't care if I end up being the only person on the face of the earth that never gets there. The Monkees are one of two artists they RaRHoF refuses to acknowledge. it may be a protest of one. It may even remain that way, but I will never go there.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
@GonzoGuyy
Indeed, Micky was lead singer (and guitarist) of The Missing Links when auditions for the show commenced.
MrRadioKing 1 year ago
@GonzoGuyy You are SO RIGHT on every point ! So many people compared them to the Beatles.....(ie, The Pre-Fab Four)...which was so unfair. John Lennon himself gave them a very prestigious compliment when he said the were the Marx Brothers of rock n roll...their comic timing was impeccable. And they WERE musicians in their own right. Headquarters is a dynamite album still ! Zilch.
60sMODgirl 10 months ago
@GonzoGuyy - that trope is usually from people who really don't know anything about their music. Those guys were MONSTER players.
Syntox 9 months ago
@GonzoGuyy : ur darn right! =0]
tornmask 9 months ago
@GonzoGuyy The best part is that today nobody gives a darn whether performers can play instruments or write their own material. It's all about looks, sex appeal, vocal shennanigans and dancing nowadays. They didn't care about that stuff back in the day either until the Beatles came along. The Monkees actually did write an awful lot of their own stuff too. In fact, Mike wrote 2 songs on the very 1st album and Peter played guitar on those songs. Micky is still 1 of the best singers of all!
elfhermie 5 months ago
Love these guys!! when it was good it was great!
bluegrassreb 1 year ago
I try nt to make a big deal out of things In a way I wish I could go back to the sixties to c what it was like along with the singing groups. The Monkees r awsome and i'm nt just saing that from a fans point of view either.
spirituscherokee 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this!
tasteofgeorgia 1 year ago
I HATE LIFE!
iHaveNoLife3651 1 year ago
Beautiful photos. 'Shades of Gray' is still an awesome song to listen to, as well as many others.
Treaty4 1 year ago
LOVE the monkees :)
deshahubbell 1 year ago
hey, what was this on?
CubicalGirl 1 year ago
Which Monkee sings on the song Shades of Gray the words "Only Shades of Gray", Was it Peter? This has been unsettling me for decades! Musicologists please respond!
johnnykew1 1 year ago
@johnnykew1
Both Peter and Davey sing on "Shades of Gray".
NanMarTren 1 year ago
@johnnykew1 Mickey on part and Peter on part.
imtallpaul 1 year ago
@johnnykew1 Sure sounds like Peter to me. While the Monkees did not write this song, they did write the arrangement heard on this song. In fact they did it in the studio, and as a group. Not bad for a bunch for prefab frauds. Not what I think of them. Unfortunately many others feel this way.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
There's a reference to the Beatles in the song..... people don't realize that the Monkees and Beatles knew each other fairly well...
imtallpaul 1 year ago
@imtallpaul Yep, the Four Kings of EMI and the Four Kings of Colgems got on great with each other. :)
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
The Monkees did a lot of "number 2"
pretorious700 1 year ago
@billysfan01 - "Randy Scouse Git"
csamphillips 1 year ago
It's a shame that people have to argue over these things. I know everyone has a right to their own opinion. Just let it go. I dearly love the Monkees, especially Davy. I'm a grandma, nearly 54 years old now. But, when I am sad, or really down, I can go in my room, turn on a Monkee CD, and like magic, I'm a young girl again. I still know the words to nearly all their songs. Just yesterday, I was thrilled to see my 4 year old granddaughter rocking her little heart out to my Monkees!
txblue1 1 year ago 38
Ok wat is the song there singing at the beginin???
billysfan01 1 year ago
@billysfan01
The song is called "Randy Scouse Git." Mickey had spent his summer in England, and that is where he got the inspiration for the song.
ImJoeToo 1 year ago
@TheAltoQueen Justin Bieber for sure. Lady gaga, I'll listen to her any day.
sep0507 1 year ago
Nice insight from a show from my childhood. Loved it as a kid. And, as a kid, oblivious to adult world realities.
kolbpilot 1 year ago
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I was looking for a Howler Monkey documentary, and I came up with THIS shit??
Burnwash 1 year ago
@Burnwash Hell ya, everybody's lookin' for a Howler Monkey documentary. lol Get the fuck outta here-
vampyros1 1 year ago
I HEARD THAT THEY WERE JUST PUT TOGETHER FOR A TV SERIES--BUT THEY DID GO ON AND BECOME A REAL BAND OR AT LEAST TRIED TO BE A VALID BAND
micmoable 1 year ago
@micmoable Yes! This has been very well documented. Mike and Peter both were hired for their musical abilities. Mike had written for every Monkees album. In addition to a lot of solo stuff. he also wrote Different Drum, which was a huge hit for The Stone Ponies featuring Linda Rondstat. Davy had a long history of musical theater in England. Each of the four had some sort of musical talent. They did go on to become a real band. They toured in 67/68,AND played their instruments on tour.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
@GonzoGuyy Thanks for the info--I didn't know all that
micmoable 1 year ago
I love the monkees, They r the greatest band ever. would love to meet them someday.
eagle0207 1 year ago
True, these guys began as a studio manufactured product, but they were actually quite talented and had plenty of ideas for the direction they wanted to take their music. Like the Beatles, they got tired of where the Big-Money Mother Ship wanted to keep taking them again and again and again is all.
bellier20 1 year ago
@bellier20 Again, this has been well documented. There is, or was a wealth of unreleased Monkees product that Colgems deemed to be unworthy of release. didn't fit the corporate image of what the Monkees were supposed to be.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
What is the Smithonian Channel? I have Dish Network and I don't see it in their line up. Sounds like a good one, though. I'm jealous.
powerslavet69 1 year ago
This was interesting, The Monkees were and still are great! I'm a huge fan. They and the Beatles were the 2 best groups of the 60's. :)
cherylharrell1961 1 year ago
Don't you wish they could be recognized by the industry for the talented guys that they are? I know they will probably never get into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (like a lot of others I could list who SHOULD be there...) but don't you wish they were?
PecanSandees23 1 year ago 2
@PecanSandees23 This is one of two reasons I am calling for a boycott of the RaRHoF. The Monkees are more worthy of being in the Hall of Fame, than many many other inductees.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
The Monkees made the safest music ever; what`s to fight about??? LOL
estyle40 1 year ago
@estyle40 You're an idiot-
vampyros1 1 year ago
@vampyros1 Truth hurts, obviously........
estyle40 1 year ago
@estyle40 You're here; "safe music" must be all you're musically sophisticated enough to process. Idiot.
vampyros1 1 year ago
@vampyros1 Actually, braniac, as a musician myself, I like all kinds personally. From what I`ve seen over the years, don`t get much more harmless than the Monkees. And yourself, of course.
estyle40 1 year ago
@estyle40 It takes an idiot to think of music in terms of what is "harmful" and "harmless". Clearly, somebody's missing the point. LOL Get back to your howler monkeys Goober-
vampyros1 1 year ago
@estyle40 Go listen through "Randy Scouse Git" (the title of which actually got censored in foreign releases), "Shorty Blackwell", and both versions of "Mommy and Daddy"; then come back & talk to me about "harmless."
(And those are just songs that Micky wrote! Don't even get me started on Nez & Peter, much less some of the other songwriters the band used!)
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
Ive been looking for this version of Randy Scouse Git for awhile, can anybody upload it please ?
lostamastasean 1 year ago
I read somewhere about the blowup between Pete and Davy. But I harbor fond memories of the Monkees, and with all the artists we're losing now, I'm praying that all four of the guys are with us for a long time to come.
RoyFive 1 year ago 2
The Monkees best music came out of the two albums they performed as a band together. I couldn't care less if any of the songs went to #1 or not, those are the albums you can listen to and say "Hey, they could really play". After that they got too eclectic and went off on their own and did their own thing, and from there, aside from some great moments like "Circle Sky" and "Listen To the Band" it was a mixed bag.
EaglesMan36 1 year ago
Davy's eyes look blue in this clip, yet I'm sure his eyes are brown. What's up with that?
jdohe 1 year ago
MICHAEL NESMITH WROTE SOME SONGS... He is a talent in his own right.. If you want to know who the major asshole is DONNIE KERSHNER.. They had no control in the studio at the start.. After Donnie got fired, he had the animated Group "The Archies" I think that noob wanted a group he could control.. A Puppet job if you will.. After Headquarters came and went they went back to Studio backing for the most part til the end in 70s.
newkidfanalways 1 year ago 4
Are there any Monkee film clips with Arlene Gorek playing Davy's weekly love interest?
SweetSueOhio1 1 year ago
She also went by the name of Arlene Charles.
SweetSueOhio1 1 year ago
Chipmunk is right. Davy was the one that got the girls. Still, they were all very talented.
SweetSueOhio1 1 year ago
You may think I am a cunt and all that BUT I am not the only one that feels that way about Davy... But some of you woman are blinded by the fact that he is the one that got the girls that can't stand the thought of Davy doing something wrong... PLEASE... Give me a break... I said my bit on it and I am going to respond no forther on this...
chipmunkfanalways 1 year ago
I'm sure he's done alot of things that were wrong but so have all of us. Just because he was the heartthrob of the group doesn't mean he's a conceited, arrogant jerk. He might have been the one to get the girls on the show but that doesn't mean he was like that in real life.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago
They all get that way, to be in that business & last I think you have to be a fry short of happy meal upstairs anyway. Davy was the one all the chicks drooled over, ofcourse it would go to his head...
Cheetahsmonk 1 year ago
'were to busy to put anybody down'
laneatlileden 1 year ago
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these guys could not write hit songs...they could barely play instruments except nesmith...
typical humans..they lucked out and then fucked it all up...
they wanted to be taken seriously...hahah
can you imagine how dumb humans are...
StraightTwoDVD 1 year ago
They did write hit songs asswipe. Apparently you know little or nothing about the Monkees. They weren't allowed to play on their first albums. Both Mike and Peter were accomplished musicians. Actually Davy was a better drummer than Micky (Micky had to learn to play the drums for his part on the Monkees.) but they felt he was too short to sit behind the drums. The Monkees played their own instruments on Headquarters.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago
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hey dumb bitch...please name me one number one single any of the monkees wrote FOR THE MONKEES...YOU CANT
NOW NAME ME ONE TOP TEN SINGLE WRITTEN BY ANY OF THE MONKEES FOR THE MONKEES...YOU CANT
all of their hits were written by professional songwriters...
those monkees believed the hype and forced don kirshner who created them to let them write their songs...
that was the end of them...they were cute, funny but THEY WERE NOT TALENTED SONGWRITERS AND MUSICIANS...END OF STORY CUNT
StraightTwoDVD 1 year ago
No Monkee-penned tune hit big in the US but....
Alternate Title aka Randy Scouse Git hit #2 in the UK.
While Mary Mary wasn't a single, it is one of their most well known songs. And it hit #5 in Australia.
Technicalities? Maybe. But you need to think about anger management .
StaringAt 1 year ago 2
You make no sense. There are alot of talented musicians out there that have never had a #1 hit. No they didn't write any of their number #1 songs but most of their albums were #1 and there were many songs written by the Monkees on them. Just so you know genius, Mike is one of the people credited with creating country rock. The Monkees were one of the most popular bands in the 60's and they still have a huge following. Don't like it, too bad. Your opinion means nothing.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago 2
@Poochyenagirl All right. Another person that knows the truth.
GonzoGuyy 1 year ago
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StaringAt 1 year ago
Davy has a big head.... I have heard stories that he can be a jerk at times... I DON'T CARE HOW BAD A DAY YOU HAVE.. BOTTLE UP YOUR PISSY ATTITUDE TIL YOU GET HOME...I tried to meet him at a meet and Greet in 01 and he never came out.. He was mad at someone... too bad Pete's punch didn't take Dave down some... I think that Davy thinks that the monkees was a waste of his talent and that he thought that it was below him... He should have stayed a jock.
chipmunkfanalways 1 year ago
'can be a jerk sometimes'? are you serious?
News Flash!: everybody can be a jerk sometimes. Are you going to cast the first stone?
Give me a freakin' break. You've never met the guy right? Why do you feel the need to judge what kind of human being he is anyway?
howedelamitri 1 year ago
DEAD SERIOUS PAL... I have heard similer stories from other longtime fans... I just told you what I experienced and talked about others who had some bad experiences.. So Joe... Why don't you be a good little man and TAKE A hike... To you I am a bitch and PROUD OF IT BUDDY...
chipmunkfanalways 1 year ago
I think you're making the mistake of judging him without having walked in his shoes. Maybe you and other fans caught him on a bad day. I don't know any more than you do. I just have a problem when anybody gets labeled a 'jerk' (or similar) as if that is the truth. The truth is that he's human. Take all those 'stories' you heard with a big grain of salt. I personally think being a celebrity would be a drag and I'm sure it makes everyone a little pissy at times. Now take a hike!
howedelamitri 1 year ago 2
I don't see how you have any room to talk about Davy or anyone else for that matter. It's obvious that you are a jerk. I also know many longtime fans and have heard that Davy is a real sweetheart.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago
So you know Davy personally? I went to a Stevie Nicks concert years ago and she never came backstage after a large group of people waited over an hour to see her. Do you think I hold it against her. She and Davy are only human after all.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago
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SORRY TO TELL U CUMSTAIN..but stevie is brilliant and davy jones is a nob has been loser..never compare them u dumb cunt
StraightTwoDVD 1 year ago
Wow, you really are intelligent and classy (not). It's obvious that you're as dumb as a box of rocks and have no taste. Do you really think anyone cares what you have to say you moronic piece of crap? BTW--go back to school and learn how to write. You have the IQ of a slug.
Poochyenagirl 1 year ago
I remember a storey when Tork was working at "The Great American Food and Beverage Co." My friends did not have enough money to pay their tip. They reached into their purses...found every last cent they had and left it for Tork. He then followed them into the parking lot and threw all the coins they'd left him, at them.
Sorry, but it's true.
This was in Santa Monica, Ca. (If my memory serves me) probably about 30 years ago or more. So yeah, I suppose Tork was torked.
Cheers,
Deb
novsev 2 years ago
I don't think it's true at all that Davy was the "diva" of the band. I just heard a commentary made by Bobby Hart (on the video of the Monkees on their first tour). Boyce and Hart were the opening act (I believe the name of their group was the Candy Store Prophets.). The Monkees meals, etc. were paid by the show but the powers that be did not pay the bills of the Candy Store Prophets. Davy felt bad about the situation and made sure they didn't have to pay for their own meals.
Poochyenagirl 2 years ago
You can't compare them to Milli Vanilli who lip-synced to someone else's work. The Monkees actually sang on the records. So what if they used studio musicians and outside songwriters at first? So did all those Motown acts who are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! Point is Mike Nesmith is a gifted songwriter, Peter Tork is a gifted mult-instrumentalist, and Mickey Dolenz has one of the great pop voices of all time. I suppose the criticism of Davey Jones is warranted, though
massierrante 2 years ago
I agree with you except for what you said about Davy Jones. I think he is a very talented singer. He was even nominated for a Tony Award when he was in the play Oliver. Not only is he a great singer but he is also a very good actor. As far as I'm concerned they're all great musicians, singers and actors. It was the combination of the four that made this group and the TV show so special.
thenoopysmom 2 years ago
hbdywtk, firstly, no one "ripped off" anyone. That said, if anyone had (which they didn't), it would have been the other way around..
minicrumpit 2 years ago
The same thing happened with this group that happened with the Beatles and I loved them both MILLIONS did so poop on all of the why or where's.
bd9598 2 years ago
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