Loved the video, made me laugh at the ignorance some people display when presented with something that directly challenges their beleifs. The guy pissed me off over how excited he got in his answer, he's talking directly to closed minded people in an effort to direct their attention away from the logic in your question. Keep it up grey bloke :D
All cody had to say was the law of free will which was also the reason for the fall of the cherub called Lucifer which is now a satan(pural) its a choice. cody was a bad example of a christian because he doesnt even understand the bible.
The devil has the track record for being the most kind. God killed the entire world once, forced his "warriors" to kill millions of people, including children and infants, in cold blood. The devil made Adam and Eve eat from the "tree of KNOWLEDGE"... I know why God had to banish them to Earth, the fruit made them allergic to bullshit
the Mormon reply is a lot less about yelling and more about making it so the human race could exist and tricking the devil into making it happen n' stuff, and don't try and argue because I don't want to get into an argument and as such, won't reply.
My faith is Islam. and I want to say; QUR'AN is only ONE book, written by ONE man, memorized by the MILLIONS. At least you should INVESTIGATE it. whether it is the TRUTH or LIE. You are going to deffinetly BENEFIT.
@salimras123 everyone is free to decide and live upon it, I am just advising people to read the Qur'an cover to cover so they will have an idea about the religion rather than just talking what they heart.
@sadikisfendiyaroglu That is actually very good advice, especially for Muslims who blindly believe whatever their religious teachers and leaders tell them. I was a Muslim myself until I actually took the time to read what was inside it. It took me a long time to accept that the Qur'an is not perfect, and I am an atheist now.
Same thing for the Bible. If more believers read their holy books (especially Jews, Muslims and Christians) they would have less, not more, faith in their deity.
@salimras123 it is simply clear that u dont know arabic, and heart lots of anti-islamic made up stories... at the same time r u sure u know the life of the the last prophet peace be upon him? I am not asking u to become a muslim, but please do not talk with out knowledge, just seek the knowledge of truth within ur heart.
I just want to ask a simply question to u why man is alive on earth tho what is the purpose of this life? please try to asnwer this question in ur heart and logic.
@sadikisfendiyaroglu What you're arguing has been a philosophical assertion used by many thinkers many millenniums ago. It's very weak, because the anthropic principle is also compatible with Deism and all of theism. No particular reason to choose Allah over any other god.
Truth lies in empirical evidence and facts, not intuition. The world we live in can be very intuitiveness. Nature can act in very, very unexpected ways. Thus, you cannot "find the truth" just by meditating upon questions.
A Christian pastor can just as easily ask an impressionable child to "look into his heart to find God", and then proceed to convince him that the God of the Bible is the one true God. I've done tons of research on theology and I find that no particular religion holds any more truth than any other, particularly the Abrahamic religions, and Islam is no exception.
You might think all kafirs (non-believers) are blind and deaf, but I beg to differ. I think it is because us kafirs know so much...
A Christian pastor can just as easily ask an impressionable child to "look into his heart to find God", and then proceed to convince him that the God of the Bible is the one true God. I've done tons of research on theology and I find that no particular religion holds any more truth than any other, particularly the Abrahamic religions, and Islam is no exception.
You might think all kafirs (non-believers) are blind and deaf, but I beg to differ. I think it is because us kafirs know so much...
more than the average theist that we reject beliefs in such dogma. With that, I bid you adieu. If you are willing to bring new content into this debate (instead of the same old, recycled garbage used by the dozens of Christians and Muslims I've talked to), I will be happy to continue this discussion. Hey, I might even PM you my email address where we can have a lengthy chat about this over instant messaging.
Until you have anything new to bring me, I shall not reply. Adieu.
quastioning is one of the greatest act that it may lead us the truth.
The Almighty is not examined by the time, Because it is one of the God's creation. So Almighty knows everthing in the past and future and the current time. The reason that we are free to choose is we are in an examination. Adam peace be upon him and Eve was also free to do that act in the same principle.
As there is lotsof religions and thoughts about the God. We should all question and investigate them and find the truth.
Seems pretty typical. A christian can't come up with a logical answer to a reasonable question so they respond with anger. Here is perhaps a more appropriate answer. "God exists and shit happens"
It is not truly righteous if they have nothing to resist. God is a gentleman who give free will to man, but man became corrupted by Satan. God also gave Jesus to pay the price for sin.
It is not truly righteous if they have nothing to resist. God is a gentleman who give free will to man, but man became corrupted by Satan. God also gave Jesus to pay the price for sin.
If you think about it, the only reason Adam and Eve procreated was because of them disobeying God, and hence sinning, but if they hadn't done that, then none of us would be here now, because there would have been no sin, and hence they would have been the only humans to have ever existed....
We should all be thanking them really. (Of course, this is if you believe in the story).
@Vashola100 Their sin was to pick the fruit, not sex. But after the first sin, they were cast from paradise, and hence they did all the other sins. And they wouldn't have had sex in paradise, because they never got old, so they wouldn't need to procreate :/
@PatatatangaG when god completed creating adam he said it "good" that implies that adam has all the capacities and faculty of a man that includes sex and procreation, if procreation is a sin then why would God give permission for it saying be "furitful and multiply"
@1GodOnlyOne I just watched your video on How To "Handle" Atheists. Very good advice; I assume you'll have no objection to me following it in your case. Bye.
@1GodOnlyOne Wow, looks like I have found the stupidest person on YouTube. I watched your videos, and saying that atheism is a "dogma" is just hypocritical.
He gave the instruction because it was good to obey that instruction,and bad to disobey.
A good work manager instructs all employees how to do every aspect of the job properly, knowing full well that some employees will disobey here and there.
The state lawmakers give laws that they feel are good and correct, knowing full well that some will choose to be criminals.
Similarly, God is all-good, so all instructions that he gives are perfect, whether or not any person chooses to obey or disobey
The sarcasm may have been deserved since you seem to not be a "new Christian" at all. But then this can also be inferred from the way you asked the question. God can do a great work in the most unrepentant of sinner but that does not entail the sinner even know there is a God. You may not know but God in His free will purposed Adam to have free will. The war in heaven happened before earth so God has been challenged and the history of us plays out in answer to that challenge.
It looks like the question has been given at least a basic answer in the comments so there is something else I'd like to mention. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not the only unusual tree that God placed in the garden; the other was the tree of Life. There no mention in the Bible that God ever told Adam about it much less prohibited eating from it. Had Adam trusted God there was an eternal blessing waiting for him to discover quite 'by accident'.
The truth is that adam and eve actually fucked and did not even eat the fruit off the tree as it has been told this is so retarded religions have demonize fucking and eating haha wow U ALL GO TO HELL NOW /////DUMB this does not exist because as sure that a christian person is confident about his own christianity the same is with a muslim or a buddhist think about it at eachother's race Point of view and culture no one escapes death and most if not all people are capable of killing for religion!
Now what is wrong the Killing due to religion Or religion itself U FUCKS WAKE UP we got 1 life to live this happens everywhere in the world everyday due to retards that cant handle there own stupid religion and then go ballistic on the public WOW true Christians there is evil shit like our own governments out there and we worry about eachother's religion that to me is fucking stupid the GOV is not our friend not here in the USA not In the UK not Iin AUS Not no da Fuck where
But there is a solution, because the bible does not speak of hell, it speaks of Sheol/Hades (a place where everyone goes) and Gehenna( a Jewish valley) but it never once speaks of a fiery place of eternal torment. It speaks of a lake of fire as a symbol for corrective fire, but never a place of torment. All this stems from incorrect translation and I ask you all to look it up and do your own thinking.
Wow, just wow. Is that guy for real? See the problem with the story of Adam and Eve is that God never told them that the consequences of eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was hell, he simply said that: "in the day that you eat of it, dying you shall die" (a more literal translation). Death is the consequence not hell, in fact you'll find that hell is not in the Old Testament, and even more provocative its not found in the New one either. You have a problem with hell,not Eden
is he a real pastor? i don't think so ... because christian do what Christ did... if he doesn't he's not. but i want to tell you guys that Jesus loves you... He cares for you... if you have question to Him ask directly to Him... How? by ready the scriptures... James 1:5 If any of you need wisdom, you should ask God, and it will be given to you. God is generous and won't correct you for asking. But when you ask for something, you must have faith and no doubt. Take a Leap of Faith guys... :)
I am a christian and i don't agree with everything in the bible or with everything that religious people say and do, i certainly don't agree with the history of what religions can do. I do however like to think beyond the bible and try and think harder of gods true intentions, i personally believe he wanted us to have knowledge and he wants us to make our own way in the world, i also believe that god made every religion to suite different people and that each one is a path to god.
That pastor's response is not what I would consider very Christian. It seems like he knew you weren't a new believer though, hence the sarcasm with "new convert". As a Christian, I simply think people need to allow others to live their own lives. You want to hear about Christ? I'd be happy to tell you, or better yet show you HIS OWN WORDS IN THE BIBLE instead of ramming my opinions down your throat. But not all of the Bible was written as a literal, historical, book. There is a main point in all
@ParaguayLeon of it that is sometimes represented by a part of history and others by a general idea or poem. Genesis 1 is NOT a historical proof of how creation happened, it is not science (which I might add, has become a religion on its own... people put their faith in science, they glorify it... something to think about) or history, it is theological poetry. God bless, whatever you believe!
hey dude to answer your question of why did god put the tree of knowledge
I think God put the tree there so we could have a choice if he didn't put the treethere then we wouldn't have true freewill because we would have no otheroption but to live with out a choice which isn't living at all
and about the whole going to hell thing we sentence our selves to hell by our own sin all we have to do is accept Jesus into our lives and he will take us in whoever we are its a free giftrememberitsourchoice
@josh1050 Obey me or burn for eternity is not free will, thats tyranny. Who built the system? Why is it its one or the other? Why can I not obey your dumbass deity AND no burn in hell forever? "Your money or your life" is also a free gift, right? Are muggers simply giving people a choice of free will? Why can't I not be mugged and keep my money?
@Shyhalu woah dude calm down its your choice remember if you dont want to belive in it thats free will but Jesus already paid the price/money he died on the cross for our sins so we woudlnt have to burn in hell if you dont want to accept that thats Gods gift of free will
@Shyhalu a more accurate secnario would be you putting a gun to your own head and believing theres no bullet in it while God is pleading to tell you that there is a bullet in that gun he even died so he could tell you that and Ive been trying to answer your question could you ask it in a different way maybe I can understand it then?
@josh1050 Its a simple yes or no question, and you did not answer it instead you attempted to change it. No, that is not a more accurate scenario, because your god would have had to given me the gun, made sure it was loaded, then told me I can shoot myself or do what he says, no other option. Why can I not obey your god and not go to hell? Why is it only one or the other? I'll tell you why. Your god made hell, your god made how the system works. That is not love, nor just...just tyranny.
@Shyhalu you still have asked me the question could you ask it to me again so I know what...your question is ahah the Gun is sin thats whats gets all of us the fact that we mess up we lie cheat steal etc so why should we deserve a perfect place like heaven which is a sinless place so because we steal lie cheat etc we cant get to heaven except through Jesus his love is free all you gotta do is accept it if you wanna reject his love thats your choice man you pull the trigger
@josh1050 I asked you "Is it ok for me to put a gun to your head and say do what I say or I'll kill you?", Get better reading comprehension. Your god decided what sin is, in which majority of humans disagree with, and made the system that allows it. Yeah, thats an even worse system. All I need to do is repent and accept jesus and I get into heaven, even if I commit rape, murder, and theft my entire life. Your deity is a retarded tyrant.
@josh1050 oh and im sorry about the way my brother in christ responded to your question we all have stuff we gotta work on some more than others but through chirst all our sins can be forgiven just ask forgiveness for the sin that Jesus already died on the cross for he'll always welcome you into his arms
@josh1050 Except that doesn't make any sense. By definition an omnipotent being knows how you're going to pick. So you don't have free willl. Plus there's no tree, which is a rather severe impediment to the theory. Unless you have it planted in your back yard or something. Is that where it is? In your yard? If not, can you tell us where it is? Becuase otherwise I'm afraid you're just making stuff up.
@Defenstrator sorry I don't know what doesn't make any sense to many comments lol could you show me what part doesn't make any sense then I can properly respond thanks :)
and about the whole free will thing yes Gods knows what were going to do before we do it but the free will part is he lets us choose and the tree is in garden is Genesis 2:9 look it up if you wanna know :P I believe the bible and everything thats in it if you dont want to that your free will kicking in :P
@josh1050 First, if there was a god and it was truly omnipotent it would always know what you were going to do before you did it. Its knowledge means you have no free will, since anything you do it has already forseen. If it can't do that it isn't all powerful and isn't a god. Second, historical fiction like the bible is not evidence of a tree. Producing a tree of knowlege or showing the location of the garden is evidence. Without them you are just telling stories.
@josh1050 so god is like a parent who puts the knive on the reach of his children and then gets angry and punishes them mean nabours boy tells them to get the knife. just to give them freechoice. god is a bad parent. and so is religion. allso if god is allpowerfull he shuld had bean able to make humans happy, and not in need of freewill. if not then he is not really allpowefull. then again, that whuld be only rational awnser. so god is beasicly a parent that does not lock the medicinebox.
@josh1050 allso if god created humans as perfect then they shuld not had failed. they shuld have being able to see trough the lie, but they did not so they where not perfect. if clock fails do we bame the clock or the clock maker. so if humans whuld have being perfect they whuld not had fallen. but the story of genesis is a obvius methafore, about growing up and relasing responsibility. god is like crazy parent who does not want his children to grow up.
'Pastor' Cody is a sick little boy who never grew up.
'Pastor' Cody decided to go the childish lazy route and believe the fairy tales.
He's a lazy fool who gave up on thinking for himself.
He's decided the bible should be his rule book, even though the bible is a crazy quilt of stories borrowed from earlier religions and other cultures.
To add to it, the bible has been re-interpreted and re-translated SO many times it's really a mess and shouldn't be taken seriously AT ALL! Religion sucks.
Just except that other people think differently to you but can still be intelligent, and yes i know this is probably full of spelling and grammar mistakes, but frankly i don't give a s@*t.
Blah blah blah. It doesn't matter if you’re an atheist, Christian, Muslim or whatever. This man is still a major fool. Even if he is a satirist, (can't make up my mind on that one) he's still annoying. It also means that the hard line atheist come on the page to call the Christians retards. We’re supposed to live in a tolerant society. tbc
What a total Dumb ass this pastor.... What about a third option, God Knew that Adam and Eve would disobey him, but elected to actually see if Adam and Eve would use their Freedom of choice to decide not to eat said fruit.
That isn't saying it's gods fault from your question it's asking why it happened. I think my Reasoning is better than the good old pastors.
So Adam and Eve could have sex with horses... and God would be like "Eh I don't give a shit, as long as they don't eat the fuckin fruit. Watching Eve is kinda hot though."
I always wondered if someone else had the same question. It just doesn't make sense until you realize it's another ancient fable. It fits in well with other ancient fables that everyone realizes hold no truth.
This question I think was key to my rejection of Christianity. First of all... what purpose would that tree have except damning all of creation? Seriously? Second, he obviously WOULD have known the consequences since it says he told them not to eat it. Third, Genesis makes no mention of a guard around the tree of knowledge. He can put it around the tree of life which would grant man eternal life, but not the tree of knowledge which would damn man eternally
2:26 well adam and eve were very very stupid and ignorant, adam didnt even know he was naked before he ate the fruit, apparently the Fruit's Curse of Knowledge or whatever its called wasn't exactly passed onto this guy..
The instructions were given so the devil could not come back to God and say you never told Adam, Eve to go to the tree. Satan would have had a valid accusation. Therefore it was wise For God to have said what he said. God already had a plan in place to make the redeemed a lot happier than they could possibly imagine. let us do good to whoever, and do good to God at the same time in the mean time. It was more than eating the fruit,it was being beguiled by sweet music like Christmas tunes.
@tallliza Satan is the accuser. He will take whatever opportunity to give an accusation. Satan is a liar too, didn't you know that? Santa claws is representing Satan, and what He gives, and tried to give to Jesus hoping Jesus would take the tinsel of the world, and not lay down his life for us on the cross. One can superimpose Santa Claus with Satan on the high place, and it would be Satan trying to get Jesus to commit suicide,and to bow down to Satan, and Jesus did nether. nether should we.
Religion is a psychological ailment and disease (rather like schizophrenia et al) from which we all need innoculating via copious vials of Common Sense, Independent and Introspective Thought and, of course, an arterial supply of Science Based Methodology and Reasoning. It really is that simple...you see...science made this computer through which we are communicating...not a 'god' nor 'deity' nor the tooth fairy...just Independent Thought and Science.
Pastor Cody's sarcasm is the typical response of someone who has run into a personal limit of understanding. It is a lazy response because all of us are capable of putting some effort into thinking. Attack the messenger is how it is known nowadays. Strawmen abound in his response.
Debate about the existence of "God", something with probably as many definitions as there are people is a lot of ado about nothing.
well obviously, God should have known that Adam would try to eat the fruit. I don't think he actually needed to be all-knowing for that... Humans always want to do what they are not allowed..
It's like "ok, just don't push the HUGE RED button there that says 'BUTTON OF WISDOM' "...
@2:07 2 glaringly obvious things wrong with a god who would do this: one 'do anything u want'? really? adam could hav raped eve and god wouldn't hav tossed him out of paradise? and y get so irrationally angry because of curiousity? an omnipotent being would know that rebellious humans, when given a 'don't do this' command, will immediately proceed 2 break it. 'he' supposedly made them this way! what an idiot. and 2, make a rule prohibiting knowledge? really? that's morally corrupt
@:49 u can c him begin 2 rationalize and make sh*t up 2 answer. because when ur christian, truth doesn't matter, rationalization and non-existant magic does. really, if u hav faith the size of a mustard seed, go make that tree pick up its roots and run in2 the sea. go now, right now. if u can't the bible must b wrong and so must u b as well.
Typical Christian response to throw the toys out of the pram when faced with a difficult question. If God elected not to know, then he could not , by definition, be omniscient. Many Christians will argue that it was because God gave mankind free will. But if God is omniscient, then there can be no free will, for all things are then predestined. You cannot have predestination and free will. One must cancel out the other.
@ThomasTrue I agree. also they start rationalizating and making sh*t up. its impossible 2 hav a conversation with people who think this is legitimately how 2 find out how the world works
@cruelbusiness1984 They are incapable of rationalsing for the simple fact they cannot be thinking rationally if they believe in a "holy" book - ANY holy book. I am currently having an online discussion with a fundie Christian and he's getting really riled at me intelligently taking his arguments apart, sometimes with logic, sometimes by quoting the Bible. I'l LOVING it. :D
@ThomasTrue "if God is omniscient, then there can be no free will, for all things are then predestined"
Obviously true. But that simple fact didn't stop one creationist I argued this point with from spending a week denying the two were incompatible. It's as if religion robs them of their ability to think clearly. I suppose I shouldn't surprised when you consider the stuff they've been brainwashed to believe, that just HAS to cripple your ability to think straight!!!
@warren52nz Absolutely Warren. It DOES rob them of their ability to think clearly. It is quite sad that a very dear friend of mine is a highly intelligent, very successful woman but is also a Christian and has stated to me that she believes the flood myth to be fact.
@ThomasTrue I still haven't worked out how intelligent people can reconcile the Biblical stories with reality. I also know an intelligent guy with a University degree in engineering who went from Atheism to radical Christianity overnight. He had an epiphany he said. He even thought the Earth was 6,000 years old for a while but gave that up eventually at least.
But it changed him, he used to be lots of fun but now his life is vanilla, he can't party "properly" or even swear any more. So sad.
@warren52nz See it is things like that which make me wonder if, in some forms at least, belief in god may well be a form of mental illness, like some sort of chemical imbalance. We have an astounding example in Edinburgh; a guy who is a Bible-believing Christian and young Earth creationist who gives public talks on his beliefs, but is also not only an amatuer astronomer, he even has a shop selling astronomical telescopes. He MUST know the Bible is wrong but won't admit it.
@ThomasTrue Religion has evolved (ironically) into a formula that optimizes brainwashing & once you fall off the brain train it's very difficult to get back on. It starts with the certainty of death, then it goes like this:
1. Strip them of their self esteem (Original Sin), call them "sheep" (the Bible)
2. Offer them a scapegoat if they behave (Jesus... used to be actual GOATS before Jesus)
3. Offer eternal life
4. Threaten them with the worst thing you can think of if they stray (Hell)
at the end of the day all "Religion" is... is hope, hope that one day by living by god they will go to heaven..... we all live with hope you dont need Religion for that......
if god loves everyone, he loves me. he knows i`m not religious and will go to hell when i die, unless he personally intervenes. so by not appearing before me, god is knowingly forcing me into hell, meaning god is either evil, in which id prefer to live away from him in hell, or hes not real, in which case it doesn't matter.
@bobbinator37 Depends on your faith. I don't honestly believe god would set up a system in which you'd more than likely go to hell. That just seems preposterous to me. Why would Adam's partaking of the fruit ruin my chances at being happy? > >
Why on earth have you agreed to put a link to the Pastors video, I know he's an idiot, you know he's an idiot, and properly a large amount of people on here also know he's an idiot, but then they're stupid people..........who will actually believe his crap.
adam and eve were given the power of choice so they god would not know, he would see what they were doing and know their thought but not what they'd do since they could make decisions, but your right that it still makes little sense.
As a christian i say to you that man does not spend any time in prayer... Because God is eternal, He sees every possible outlook, so He has a solution for every possible problem, God is moved by our Faith. because we where at fault He still provided us with Jesus
good sir some grey bloke i hav something for you, i just finished reading the description of this video and found that you recently became a christian because you feared going to hell? im, sorry to inform you but because of why you joined up you will go to hell, if hell is the only reason your NOT blaspheming and havn sex and doing drugs then im sorry but it is a failed cause, it evens states that in the bible
This one time, i made a small fenced in area for my dog, then i put some god food in there and said "now dog, whatever you do, don't eat that dog food" but then he ate the dog food. It was in no way my fault though
Hey, God put that tree there in the first place, when he could've just as well had kept it in his own garden up in whatever heaven. So he's the only one to blame. Also, since the tree was the tree of wisdom whatever.. it meant that Adam and Eve was seriously stupid before they ate the fruit and became smart. So how can God expect them to understand a rule given, before they have the wisdom to actually understand it?
Not like I care, I'm a happy-go-lucky and proud Satanist. ♥
@SireYumi damn dude never thought of that intelligence thing before, thought bout the other thing that god put it ther and stuff, but not that they were stjupid before hand thats actrually a very good point
@ArcaneMage54k There are two types of Satanism, sweetie. The original/old Satanism and the modern/today's Satanism. Modern is all about the Devil and shit, while the old one - the original - was actually just people who had no belief in what people called "God" and thus was seen by the religious as "possessed", "evil" etc. Then the stories about Lucifer, Satan etc came to be and developed up till today.
Could write a book of it, but these comment boxes has their (indeed short) limit, bleh.
@SireYumi You put it beautifully SireYumi! You have deployed reasoning here in a mathematical method that, if the whole world followed this reasoning (as opposed to mere superstition as is a necessity in this god delusion) then this means of interpreting our world and indeed our polyverse, would be millenia' ahead in our science! Religion holds the human species back. Best wishes.
@Ebsteins31653 Why thank you, my good sir. I am a Satanist, but I'm not over-religious enough to start a war, or better yet a rant-video, about it. Which I see as a good thing for everyone, in my opinion.
God wanted humans to choose to love Him. He didn't want a bunch of robots just to say they loved Him, that's why He planted the tree in the first place. He wanted Adam and Eve to truly love Him like He loved them. He gave us free will to make our own decisions but He wants us to ask for help. In the Bible it says the tree of knowledge of good and evil, not just knowledge. Adam and Eve hadn't touched it until the serpent tempted them. Jesus was tempted too but He asked God for help. God bless <3
Loved the video, made me laugh at the ignorance some people display when presented with something that directly challenges their beleifs. The guy pissed me off over how excited he got in his answer, he's talking directly to closed minded people in an effort to direct their attention away from the logic in your question. Keep it up grey bloke :D
AdmiralNelsification 2 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
Christians like pastor cody are very good trolls
Spandex08 1 month ago
You got to watch Mr. Deity. Without further to do, he turns of his "all knowingness"
Matismatt 1 month ago
gods the problem not the salution
archie977 1 month ago in playlist LOL
All cody had to say was the law of free will which was also the reason for the fall of the cherub called Lucifer which is now a satan(pural) its a choice. cody was a bad example of a christian because he doesnt even understand the bible.
KindNexus 1 month ago
please tell that this guy dosent exist (escribo como el orto ingles por que soy de argentina)
proyectodepeleador 1 month ago
The devil has the track record for being the most kind. God killed the entire world once, forced his "warriors" to kill millions of people, including children and infants, in cold blood. The devil made Adam and Eve eat from the "tree of KNOWLEDGE"... I know why God had to banish them to Earth, the fruit made them allergic to bullshit
MrPsykk 2 months ago 2
the Mormon reply is a lot less about yelling and more about making it so the human race could exist and tricking the devil into making it happen n' stuff, and don't try and argue because I don't want to get into an argument and as such, won't reply.
ZILOGz80VIDEOS 2 months ago
My faith is Islam. and I want to say; QUR'AN is only ONE book, written by ONE man, memorized by the MILLIONS. At least you should INVESTIGATE it. whether it is the TRUTH or LIE. You are going to deffinetly BENEFIT.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 2 months ago
@sadikisfendiyaroglu The Qur'an is fallacious and immoral. The benefits are negligible.
salimras123 4 weeks ago
@salimras123 everyone is free to decide and live upon it, I am just advising people to read the Qur'an cover to cover so they will have an idea about the religion rather than just talking what they heart.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 3 weeks ago
@sadikisfendiyaroglu That is actually very good advice, especially for Muslims who blindly believe whatever their religious teachers and leaders tell them. I was a Muslim myself until I actually took the time to read what was inside it. It took me a long time to accept that the Qur'an is not perfect, and I am an atheist now.
Same thing for the Bible. If more believers read their holy books (especially Jews, Muslims and Christians) they would have less, not more, faith in their deity.
salimras123 3 weeks ago
@salimras123 as I told before the man is free to decide but gonna be judged on behalf of those decisions.
Could you please tell me if this is not offensive to u, what u have found in the Qur'an was against to u tho u left the Islam.
For me Qur'an is the anti-virus software of my life all praises to the Almighty.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 3 weeks ago
@sadikisfendiyaroglu Ha I don't even know where to start.
I'll just name some examples I can recall spontaneously.
The Qur'an claims that:
Humans form from a clot of blood,
Semen comes from the backbone,
The sun goes to a "resting place" after it sets,
The earth is flat (spread out like a carpet),
There is NO compulsion to become a Muslim, but then it contradicts itself by describing unbelievers as deceitful and orders you to fight them.
And that's just a few factual/logical inaccuracies...
salimras123 3 weeks ago
@salimras123 it is simply clear that u dont know arabic, and heart lots of anti-islamic made up stories... at the same time r u sure u know the life of the the last prophet peace be upon him? I am not asking u to become a muslim, but please do not talk with out knowledge, just seek the knowledge of truth within ur heart.
I just want to ask a simply question to u why man is alive on earth tho what is the purpose of this life? please try to asnwer this question in ur heart and logic.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 3 weeks ago
@sadikisfendiyaroglu What you're arguing has been a philosophical assertion used by many thinkers many millenniums ago. It's very weak, because the anthropic principle is also compatible with Deism and all of theism. No particular reason to choose Allah over any other god.
Truth lies in empirical evidence and facts, not intuition. The world we live in can be very intuitiveness. Nature can act in very, very unexpected ways. Thus, you cannot "find the truth" just by meditating upon questions.
salimras123 3 weeks ago
A Christian pastor can just as easily ask an impressionable child to "look into his heart to find God", and then proceed to convince him that the God of the Bible is the one true God. I've done tons of research on theology and I find that no particular religion holds any more truth than any other, particularly the Abrahamic religions, and Islam is no exception.
You might think all kafirs (non-believers) are blind and deaf, but I beg to differ. I think it is because us kafirs know so much...
salimras123 3 weeks ago
A Christian pastor can just as easily ask an impressionable child to "look into his heart to find God", and then proceed to convince him that the God of the Bible is the one true God. I've done tons of research on theology and I find that no particular religion holds any more truth than any other, particularly the Abrahamic religions, and Islam is no exception.
You might think all kafirs (non-believers) are blind and deaf, but I beg to differ. I think it is because us kafirs know so much...
salimras123 3 weeks ago
more than the average theist that we reject beliefs in such dogma. With that, I bid you adieu. If you are willing to bring new content into this debate (instead of the same old, recycled garbage used by the dozens of Christians and Muslims I've talked to), I will be happy to continue this discussion. Hey, I might even PM you my email address where we can have a lengthy chat about this over instant messaging.
Until you have anything new to bring me, I shall not reply. Adieu.
salimras123 3 weeks ago
quastioning is one of the greatest act that it may lead us the truth.
The Almighty is not examined by the time, Because it is one of the God's creation. So Almighty knows everthing in the past and future and the current time. The reason that we are free to choose is we are in an examination. Adam peace be upon him and Eve was also free to do that act in the same principle.
As there is lotsof religions and thoughts about the God. We should all question and investigate them and find the truth.
sadikisfendiyaroglu 2 months ago
I hope Pastor Ronald isnt taking that faith on the road. Christians new and old have questions.. and stuff like that give christians a bad rep.
sydneyandkatie369 2 months ago
@losshadow.....Retard.....WOW.......That's a pretty big word for you isn't it.
You get a gold star and can move to the front of the 5th grade class.
billybob6087 2 months ago
Why make the tree at all.....Stupid God
billybob6087 2 months ago
@billybob6087 haha he didn't...your mom did...and your dad...how do you think you got here?... retard...
losshadow111 2 months ago
Seems pretty typical. A christian can't come up with a logical answer to a reasonable question so they respond with anger. Here is perhaps a more appropriate answer. "God exists and shit happens"
Disturbeded13 3 months ago
what a legend
MrCan2k 3 months ago
God, if he exists, is an ASSHOLE. That's the answer.
lasalle1alpha 3 months ago
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It is not truly righteous if they have nothing to resist. God is a gentleman who give free will to man, but man became corrupted by Satan. God also gave Jesus to pay the price for sin.
javafraps 4 months ago
It is not truly righteous if they have nothing to resist. God is a gentleman who give free will to man, but man became corrupted by Satan. God also gave Jesus to pay the price for sin.
javafraps 4 months ago
Pastor Cody sucks
jatpeel 4 months ago
@jatpeel ither he is the worst christian, or he is actualy a poe.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
this is really the leve of religious stuypidity that I have had to deal with for the better part of my life
Liddlelegrande 4 months ago
If you think about it, the only reason Adam and Eve procreated was because of them disobeying God, and hence sinning, but if they hadn't done that, then none of us would be here now, because there would have been no sin, and hence they would have been the only humans to have ever existed....
We should all be thanking them really. (Of course, this is if you believe in the story).
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@PatatatangaG The sin of Adam and Eve cannot be sex, because eve was created as Adams wife, it is not a sin to have sex with your wife.
Vashola100 2 months ago
@Vashola100 Their sin was to pick the fruit, not sex. But after the first sin, they were cast from paradise, and hence they did all the other sins. And they wouldn't have had sex in paradise, because they never got old, so they wouldn't need to procreate :/
PatatatangaG 2 months ago
@PatatatangaG when god completed creating adam he said it "good" that implies that adam has all the capacities and faculty of a man that includes sex and procreation, if procreation is a sin then why would God give permission for it saying be "furitful and multiply"
Vashola100 2 months ago
He didn't answer the question well. He sounds like a foolish man.
FadeakaTheo 4 months ago
loooooooooooool @ 1:28
dinitis 5 months ago
pastor cody is a pathetic boob, regardless of which side of the christian fence you sit on.
skoockum 5 months ago
Anyone else see that, that guy looked and sounded like Weird Al Yankovic...?
iTidas 5 months ago
i hate christianity, im not even gonna finish this video
jjtheslayer69 5 months ago
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If he was sarcastic, it's probably because he detected your dishonesty in claiming to be a "Christian," which you obviously are not.
Be careful what you present to the world -- it may come right back at you, as it did in this case.
atheist total fail
1GodOnlyOne 5 months ago
@1GodOnlyOne I just watched your video on How To "Handle" Atheists. Very good advice; I assume you'll have no objection to me following it in your case. Bye.
somegreybloke 5 months ago 41
@somegreybloke is he acting or is he serious because if it serious it makes it funneyer
Thespeed10101 1 week ago
@1GodOnlyOne js agnostic>christian
makinghitz111 4 months ago
@1GodOnlyOne Wow, looks like I have found the stupidest person on YouTube. I watched your videos, and saying that atheism is a "dogma" is just hypocritical.
DarkSoulsOST 3 months ago
He gave the instruction because it was good to obey that instruction,and bad to disobey.
A good work manager instructs all employees how to do every aspect of the job properly, knowing full well that some employees will disobey here and there.
The state lawmakers give laws that they feel are good and correct, knowing full well that some will choose to be criminals.
Similarly, God is all-good, so all instructions that he gives are perfect, whether or not any person chooses to obey or disobey
1GodOnlyOne 5 months ago
PS -- This is an extremely silly and stupid question, posed by an individual who obviously imagines it to be clever. How sad.
1GodOnlyOne 5 months ago
The sarcasm may have been deserved since you seem to not be a "new Christian" at all. But then this can also be inferred from the way you asked the question. God can do a great work in the most unrepentant of sinner but that does not entail the sinner even know there is a God. You may not know but God in His free will purposed Adam to have free will. The war in heaven happened before earth so God has been challenged and the history of us plays out in answer to that challenge.
rusty2029 5 months ago
It looks like the question has been given at least a basic answer in the comments so there is something else I'd like to mention. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not the only unusual tree that God placed in the garden; the other was the tree of Life. There no mention in the Bible that God ever told Adam about it much less prohibited eating from it. Had Adam trusted God there was an eternal blessing waiting for him to discover quite 'by accident'.
Keruaran 5 months ago
He's a Pastor? *shudders*
Keruaran 5 months ago
lmao funny stuff....
burninaterify 5 months ago
Why didn't god just put a fence around it, it works for cookie jars
MerelWithChoclate 5 months ago
@MerelWithChoclate because god doesn't exist thats why he didn't put a fence
Tethloach1 5 months ago
@Tethloach1 It was a joke -,-
MerelWithChoclate 5 months ago
The truth is that adam and eve actually fucked and did not even eat the fruit off the tree as it has been told this is so retarded religions have demonize fucking and eating haha wow U ALL GO TO HELL NOW /////DUMB this does not exist because as sure that a christian person is confident about his own christianity the same is with a muslim or a buddhist think about it at eachother's race Point of view and culture no one escapes death and most if not all people are capable of killing for religion!
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centroloz13 5 months ago
Now what is wrong the Killing due to religion Or religion itself U FUCKS WAKE UP we got 1 life to live this happens everywhere in the world everyday due to retards that cant handle there own stupid religion and then go ballistic on the public WOW true Christians there is evil shit like our own governments out there and we worry about eachother's religion that to me is fucking stupid the GOV is not our friend not here in the USA not In the UK not Iin AUS Not no da Fuck where
centroloz13 5 months ago
The guy in that video is a BURNT DICK!!! ..he didn't answer anything!
...he only succeeded in making himself sound more evil and fake!!!!
cirusMEDIA 5 months ago
Close your eyes while the religious guy is freaking out. He sounds exactly like Weird Al
TheCraich 5 months ago
But there is a solution, because the bible does not speak of hell, it speaks of Sheol/Hades (a place where everyone goes) and Gehenna( a Jewish valley) but it never once speaks of a fiery place of eternal torment. It speaks of a lake of fire as a symbol for corrective fire, but never a place of torment. All this stems from incorrect translation and I ask you all to look it up and do your own thinking.
awakeningaletheia 5 months ago
Wow, just wow. Is that guy for real? See the problem with the story of Adam and Eve is that God never told them that the consequences of eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was hell, he simply said that: "in the day that you eat of it, dying you shall die" (a more literal translation). Death is the consequence not hell, in fact you'll find that hell is not in the Old Testament, and even more provocative its not found in the New one either. You have a problem with hell,not Eden
awakeningaletheia 5 months ago
I believe that this pastor dude is actually a satirical fellow himself and not a Christian. Interesting play upon play :p
shellshot 5 months ago
So are we dealing with Poe's law, or is this guy serious?
avdmeers 5 months ago
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Poor Pastor Ronald, he looks like he's about to cry...
Manifoldgodhead 5 months ago
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Manifoldgodhead 5 months ago
how will he answer? listen to the right voice... :)
kh4an1 5 months ago
is he a real pastor? i don't think so ... because christian do what Christ did... if he doesn't he's not. but i want to tell you guys that Jesus loves you... He cares for you... if you have question to Him ask directly to Him... How? by ready the scriptures... James 1:5 If any of you need wisdom, you should ask God, and it will be given to you. God is generous and won't correct you for asking. But when you ask for something, you must have faith and no doubt. Take a Leap of Faith guys... :)
kh4an1 5 months ago
I am a christian and i don't agree with everything in the bible or with everything that religious people say and do, i certainly don't agree with the history of what religions can do. I do however like to think beyond the bible and try and think harder of gods true intentions, i personally believe he wanted us to have knowledge and he wants us to make our own way in the world, i also believe that god made every religion to suite different people and that each one is a path to god.
DrAnnoyed 5 months ago
That pastor's response is not what I would consider very Christian. It seems like he knew you weren't a new believer though, hence the sarcasm with "new convert". As a Christian, I simply think people need to allow others to live their own lives. You want to hear about Christ? I'd be happy to tell you, or better yet show you HIS OWN WORDS IN THE BIBLE instead of ramming my opinions down your throat. But not all of the Bible was written as a literal, historical, book. There is a main point in all
ParaguayLeon 6 months ago
@ParaguayLeon of it that is sometimes represented by a part of history and others by a general idea or poem. Genesis 1 is NOT a historical proof of how creation happened, it is not science (which I might add, has become a religion on its own... people put their faith in science, they glorify it... something to think about) or history, it is theological poetry. God bless, whatever you believe!
ParaguayLeon 6 months ago
hey dude to answer your question of why did god put the tree of knowledge
I think God put the tree there so we could have a choice if he didn't put the treethere then we wouldn't have true freewill because we would have no otheroption but to live with out a choice which isn't living at all
and about the whole going to hell thing we sentence our selves to hell by our own sin all we have to do is accept Jesus into our lives and he will take us in whoever we are its a free giftrememberitsourchoice
josh1050 6 months ago 7
@josh1050 Obey me or burn for eternity is not free will, thats tyranny. Who built the system? Why is it its one or the other? Why can I not obey your dumbass deity AND no burn in hell forever? "Your money or your life" is also a free gift, right? Are muggers simply giving people a choice of free will? Why can't I not be mugged and keep my money?
Shyhalu 5 months ago
@Shyhalu woah dude calm down its your choice remember if you dont want to belive in it thats free will but Jesus already paid the price/money he died on the cross for our sins so we woudlnt have to burn in hell if you dont want to accept that thats Gods gift of free will
josh1050 5 months ago
@josh1050 Why don't you answer any questions? Is it ok for me to put a gun to your head and say do what I say or I'll kill you?
Shyhalu 5 months ago
@Shyhalu a more accurate secnario would be you putting a gun to your own head and believing theres no bullet in it while God is pleading to tell you that there is a bullet in that gun he even died so he could tell you that and Ive been trying to answer your question could you ask it in a different way maybe I can understand it then?
josh1050 5 months ago
@josh1050 Its a simple yes or no question, and you did not answer it instead you attempted to change it. No, that is not a more accurate scenario, because your god would have had to given me the gun, made sure it was loaded, then told me I can shoot myself or do what he says, no other option. Why can I not obey your god and not go to hell? Why is it only one or the other? I'll tell you why. Your god made hell, your god made how the system works. That is not love, nor just...just tyranny.
Shyhalu 5 months ago
@Shyhalu you still have asked me the question could you ask it to me again so I know what...your question is ahah the Gun is sin thats whats gets all of us the fact that we mess up we lie cheat steal etc so why should we deserve a perfect place like heaven which is a sinless place so because we steal lie cheat etc we cant get to heaven except through Jesus his love is free all you gotta do is accept it if you wanna reject his love thats your choice man you pull the trigger
josh1050 5 months ago
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@josh1050 I asked you "Is it ok for me to put a gun to your head and say do what I say or I'll kill you?", Get better reading comprehension. Your god decided what sin is, in which majority of humans disagree with, and made the system that allows it. Yeah, thats an even worse system. All I need to do is repent and accept jesus and I get into heaven, even if I commit rape, murder, and theft my entire life. Your deity is a retarded tyrant.
Shyhalu 5 months ago
@josh1050 oh and im sorry about the way my brother in christ responded to your question we all have stuff we gotta work on some more than others but through chirst all our sins can be forgiven just ask forgiveness for the sin that Jesus already died on the cross for he'll always welcome you into his arms
josh1050 5 months ago
@josh1050 Except that doesn't make any sense. By definition an omnipotent being knows how you're going to pick. So you don't have free willl. Plus there's no tree, which is a rather severe impediment to the theory. Unless you have it planted in your back yard or something. Is that where it is? In your yard? If not, can you tell us where it is? Becuase otherwise I'm afraid you're just making stuff up.
Defenstrator 5 months ago
@Defenstrator sorry I don't know what doesn't make any sense to many comments lol could you show me what part doesn't make any sense then I can properly respond thanks :)
and about the whole free will thing yes Gods knows what were going to do before we do it but the free will part is he lets us choose and the tree is in garden is Genesis 2:9 look it up if you wanna know :P I believe the bible and everything thats in it if you dont want to that your free will kicking in :P
josh1050 5 months ago
@josh1050 First, if there was a god and it was truly omnipotent it would always know what you were going to do before you did it. Its knowledge means you have no free will, since anything you do it has already forseen. If it can't do that it isn't all powerful and isn't a god. Second, historical fiction like the bible is not evidence of a tree. Producing a tree of knowlege or showing the location of the garden is evidence. Without them you are just telling stories.
Defenstrator 5 months ago
@josh1050 That fucking doesn't make any sense then again you are a christian and retarded logic is what you are indoctrinated in.
Tethloach1 5 months ago
@josh1050 so god is like a parent who puts the knive on the reach of his children and then gets angry and punishes them mean nabours boy tells them to get the knife. just to give them freechoice. god is a bad parent. and so is religion. allso if god is allpowerfull he shuld had bean able to make humans happy, and not in need of freewill. if not then he is not really allpowefull. then again, that whuld be only rational awnser. so god is beasicly a parent that does not lock the medicinebox.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
@josh1050 allso if god created humans as perfect then they shuld not had failed. they shuld have being able to see trough the lie, but they did not so they where not perfect. if clock fails do we bame the clock or the clock maker. so if humans whuld have being perfect they whuld not had fallen. but the story of genesis is a obvius methafore, about growing up and relasing responsibility. god is like crazy parent who does not want his children to grow up.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
What a shame that Pastor Cody's ranting, sarcastic and self-contradictory video was taken down. It was one of the funniest things on YouTube.
ThomasTrue 6 months ago
'Pastor' Cody is a sick little boy who never grew up.
'Pastor' Cody decided to go the childish lazy route and believe the fairy tales.
He's a lazy fool who gave up on thinking for himself.
He's decided the bible should be his rule book, even though the bible is a crazy quilt of stories borrowed from earlier religions and other cultures.
To add to it, the bible has been re-interpreted and re-translated SO many times it's really a mess and shouldn't be taken seriously AT ALL! Religion sucks.
lancethrustworthy 6 months ago
pps, please read third comment first, then 2nd, needn't bother with this one. or don't bother with any of them.
andypalmtree 6 months ago
Just except that other people think differently to you but can still be intelligent, and yes i know this is probably full of spelling and grammar mistakes, but frankly i don't give a s@*t.
On the lighter side. Somegreybloke is brilliant.
p.s in regard to religion i'm a nihilist.
andypalmtree 6 months ago
Blah blah blah. It doesn't matter if you’re an atheist, Christian, Muslim or whatever. This man is still a major fool. Even if he is a satirist, (can't make up my mind on that one) he's still annoying. It also means that the hard line atheist come on the page to call the Christians retards. We’re supposed to live in a tolerant society. tbc
andypalmtree 6 months ago
Isn't that "pastor" a satirist?
greenjelly01 6 months ago
How would Islam answer his question?
xbroadcaster1991 6 months ago
What a total Dumb ass this pastor.... What about a third option, God Knew that Adam and Eve would disobey him, but elected to actually see if Adam and Eve would use their Freedom of choice to decide not to eat said fruit.
That isn't saying it's gods fault from your question it's asking why it happened. I think my Reasoning is better than the good old pastors.
calumrocks 6 months ago
lol that guys is doing a great job being a stereotypical christian.
Kylestruth7 6 months ago
So Adam and Eve could have sex with horses... and God would be like "Eh I don't give a shit, as long as they don't eat the fuckin fruit. Watching Eve is kinda hot though."
Yeah, that makes total sense.
BClipp 6 months ago
I always wondered if someone else had the same question. It just doesn't make sense until you realize it's another ancient fable. It fits in well with other ancient fables that everyone realizes hold no truth.
bloodyDebauchery 6 months ago
This question I think was key to my rejection of Christianity. First of all... what purpose would that tree have except damning all of creation? Seriously? Second, he obviously WOULD have known the consequences since it says he told them not to eat it. Third, Genesis makes no mention of a guard around the tree of knowledge. He can put it around the tree of life which would grant man eternal life, but not the tree of knowledge which would damn man eternally
bloodyDebauchery 6 months ago
2:26 well adam and eve were very very stupid and ignorant, adam didnt even know he was naked before he ate the fruit, apparently the Fruit's Curse of Knowledge or whatever its called wasn't exactly passed onto this guy..
chrism4n14 6 months ago
The instructions were given so the devil could not come back to God and say you never told Adam, Eve to go to the tree. Satan would have had a valid accusation. Therefore it was wise For God to have said what he said. God already had a plan in place to make the redeemed a lot happier than they could possibly imagine. let us do good to whoever, and do good to God at the same time in the mean time. It was more than eating the fruit,it was being beguiled by sweet music like Christmas tunes.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
@kobidobidog What silly crap,!!
tallliza 6 months ago
@tallliza Satan is the accuser. He will take whatever opportunity to give an accusation. Satan is a liar too, didn't you know that? Santa claws is representing Satan, and what He gives, and tried to give to Jesus hoping Jesus would take the tinsel of the world, and not lay down his life for us on the cross. One can superimpose Santa Claus with Satan on the high place, and it would be Satan trying to get Jesus to commit suicide,and to bow down to Satan, and Jesus did nether. nether should we.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
Religion is a psychological ailment and disease (rather like schizophrenia et al) from which we all need innoculating via copious vials of Common Sense, Independent and Introspective Thought and, of course, an arterial supply of Science Based Methodology and Reasoning. It really is that simple...you see...science made this computer through which we are communicating...not a 'god' nor 'deity' nor the tooth fairy...just Independent Thought and Science.
Ebsteins31653 6 months ago
Pastor Cody's sarcasm is the typical response of someone who has run into a personal limit of understanding. It is a lazy response because all of us are capable of putting some effort into thinking. Attack the messenger is how it is known nowadays. Strawmen abound in his response.
Debate about the existence of "God", something with probably as many definitions as there are people is a lot of ado about nothing.
malectric 6 months ago
1:25 "That's a terrible witness for your faith." I think this guy needs to check his.
aloranor 6 months ago 2
Hey Gray Bloke, love your vids.
well obviously, God should have known that Adam would try to eat the fruit. I don't think he actually needed to be all-knowing for that... Humans always want to do what they are not allowed..
It's like "ok, just don't push the HUGE RED button there that says 'BUTTON OF WISDOM' "...
iLegoPerson 7 months ago
ad popped up from the Christian Prayer Center - epic win
butterbros 7 months ago
@2:07 2 glaringly obvious things wrong with a god who would do this: one 'do anything u want'? really? adam could hav raped eve and god wouldn't hav tossed him out of paradise? and y get so irrationally angry because of curiousity? an omnipotent being would know that rebellious humans, when given a 'don't do this' command, will immediately proceed 2 break it. 'he' supposedly made them this way! what an idiot. and 2, make a rule prohibiting knowledge? really? that's morally corrupt
cruelbusiness1984 7 months ago
@:49 u can c him begin 2 rationalize and make sh*t up 2 answer. because when ur christian, truth doesn't matter, rationalization and non-existant magic does. really, if u hav faith the size of a mustard seed, go make that tree pick up its roots and run in2 the sea. go now, right now. if u can't the bible must b wrong and so must u b as well.
cruelbusiness1984 7 months ago
Typical Christian response to throw the toys out of the pram when faced with a difficult question. If God elected not to know, then he could not , by definition, be omniscient. Many Christians will argue that it was because God gave mankind free will. But if God is omniscient, then there can be no free will, for all things are then predestined. You cannot have predestination and free will. One must cancel out the other.
ThomasTrue 7 months ago
@ThomasTrue I agree. also they start rationalizating and making sh*t up. its impossible 2 hav a conversation with people who think this is legitimately how 2 find out how the world works
cruelbusiness1984 7 months ago
@cruelbusiness1984 They are incapable of rationalsing for the simple fact they cannot be thinking rationally if they believe in a "holy" book - ANY holy book. I am currently having an online discussion with a fundie Christian and he's getting really riled at me intelligently taking his arguments apart, sometimes with logic, sometimes by quoting the Bible. I'l LOVING it. :D
ThomasTrue 7 months ago
@ThomasTrue "if God is omniscient, then there can be no free will, for all things are then predestined"
Obviously true. But that simple fact didn't stop one creationist I argued this point with from spending a week denying the two were incompatible. It's as if religion robs them of their ability to think clearly. I suppose I shouldn't surprised when you consider the stuff they've been brainwashed to believe, that just HAS to cripple your ability to think straight!!!
Look at the flood myth....
warren52nz 6 months ago
@warren52nz Absolutely Warren. It DOES rob them of their ability to think clearly. It is quite sad that a very dear friend of mine is a highly intelligent, very successful woman but is also a Christian and has stated to me that she believes the flood myth to be fact.
ThomasTrue 6 months ago
@ThomasTrue I still haven't worked out how intelligent people can reconcile the Biblical stories with reality. I also know an intelligent guy with a University degree in engineering who went from Atheism to radical Christianity overnight. He had an epiphany he said. He even thought the Earth was 6,000 years old for a while but gave that up eventually at least.
But it changed him, he used to be lots of fun but now his life is vanilla, he can't party "properly" or even swear any more. So sad.
warren52nz 6 months ago
@warren52nz See it is things like that which make me wonder if, in some forms at least, belief in god may well be a form of mental illness, like some sort of chemical imbalance. We have an astounding example in Edinburgh; a guy who is a Bible-believing Christian and young Earth creationist who gives public talks on his beliefs, but is also not only an amatuer astronomer, he even has a shop selling astronomical telescopes. He MUST know the Bible is wrong but won't admit it.
ThomasTrue 6 months ago
@ThomasTrue Religion has evolved (ironically) into a formula that optimizes brainwashing & once you fall off the brain train it's very difficult to get back on. It starts with the certainty of death, then it goes like this:
1. Strip them of their self esteem (Original Sin), call them "sheep" (the Bible)
2. Offer them a scapegoat if they behave (Jesus... used to be actual GOATS before Jesus)
3. Offer eternal life
4. Threaten them with the worst thing you can think of if they stray (Hell)
Simple.
warren52nz 6 months ago
bahahaaa @ mr. cody
Spiderwoman77 7 months ago
semen factory ad?.......oh siemens
DragonsREpic 7 months ago
2:47 - 3:03'
YouTube - Drug Smoking ????? Babies
YouTube - Hot sexy girl
YouTube - Introduction to Islam
DragonsREpic 7 months ago
religion makes me wanna kick sum ass(es)
DragonsREpic 7 months ago
That one instruction Adam and Eve were given sounds almost like a set up. They were set up to disobey...
ThaFunkster100 7 months ago
Wow. That was a reasonable question that didn't deserve the response it got.
INTPTT 7 months ago
lol this pastor guy knows nuthing about christianity...that was a completly legitimate quesiton lol
chickenppox 7 months ago
Pastor Ronald Cody is an embarassment for humanity video is missing !!!
parsonman05 7 months ago
God should have made Adam and Eve chinese. so that way they wouldn't eat the apple, but instead the snake.
kill321able 7 months ago
wow....big FAIL....
bakersfieldmusicnow 7 months ago
ok just because cody says things the way he does dosnt mean thats how everyone is. some say what they are but dont act like it
orochimarurocks1 7 months ago
Really? I'm also converting to islam!
igratkransy 7 months ago
anybody ever heard of Glen Beck?
thetruthrover 7 months ago
@thetruthrover ick! lol
petiteAlicious 7 months ago
jeez what a freak....
AkwardPixieGurl 7 months ago
@AkwardPixieGurl yeah ikr,,,, he probly wld have ate the fruit 2
luvleepatty2911 7 months ago
Blimey, they let nutters like THAT out? ... This guy's obviously not a proponent of the Felix Culpa. ... Or anything else, actually.
McGroundling 7 months ago
at the end of the day all "Religion" is... is hope, hope that one day by living by god they will go to heaven..... we all live with hope you dont need Religion for that......
thats how i see it anyway.
TheGhettostylus 7 months ago
Now I am devout atheist but I believe that guy must be a complete embarrassment to to Christians everywhere. hahahahahaha
voices133 7 months ago
That dude sounds like Weird Al on helium.
mysterioso2006 7 months ago
OMG WTF ARE UP WITH HIS EYES....LOVE the way he NEVER actually answered it ; ) Ummm it doesn't help really.... LOL
samcat8767 7 months ago
if god loves everyone, he loves me. he knows i`m not religious and will go to hell when i die, unless he personally intervenes. so by not appearing before me, god is knowingly forcing me into hell, meaning god is either evil, in which id prefer to live away from him in hell, or hes not real, in which case it doesn't matter.
that is why i`m non-religious.
bobbinator37 7 months ago
I bet if god never mentioned the tree the fruit wouldnt have been eaten
Evanisawesome54321 7 months ago
@bobbinator37 Depends on your faith. I don't honestly believe god would set up a system in which you'd more than likely go to hell. That just seems preposterous to me. Why would Adam's partaking of the fruit ruin my chances at being happy? > >
coughin05 7 months ago
Why on earth have you agreed to put a link to the Pastors video, I know he's an idiot, you know he's an idiot, and properly a large amount of people on here also know he's an idiot, but then they're stupid people..........who will actually believe his crap.
jinkywantsyou 7 months ago
adam and eve were given the power of choice so they god would not know, he would see what they were doing and know their thought but not what they'd do since they could make decisions, but your right that it still makes little sense.
majinvi74 7 months ago
i think he's shrek's "searching" little dumb bro.
iworkforme 7 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!
I THOUGHT THE PASTOR WAS FAKE!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
ihavevoddler 8 months ago
As a christian i say to you that man does not spend any time in prayer... Because God is eternal, He sees every possible outlook, so He has a solution for every possible problem, God is moved by our Faith. because we where at fault He still provided us with Jesus
TheBandgeekXD 8 months ago
he converted me, am saved! thank u :)
hockstrap 8 months ago
Lol calm down buddy! :)
ThaFunkster100 8 months ago
good sir some grey bloke i hav something for you, i just finished reading the description of this video and found that you recently became a christian because you feared going to hell? im, sorry to inform you but because of why you joined up you will go to hell, if hell is the only reason your NOT blaspheming and havn sex and doing drugs then im sorry but it is a failed cause, it evens states that in the bible
hypoglycemix 8 months ago
This one time, i made a small fenced in area for my dog, then i put some god food in there and said "now dog, whatever you do, don't eat that dog food" but then he ate the dog food. It was in no way my fault though
rememberthename33 8 months ago
if religion was a person, he'd be a real dick head
rememberthename33 8 months ago
I wish I could condense religion into an entity with a physical body and shoot at it with all sorts of weapons guns and cannons.
ArtypNk 8 months ago
TV and internet preachers are idiots. They make all us other Christians look like a douche.
Shatteredcraft 8 months ago
The guy sounds a bit like Weird Al. Which is a shame... I love Weird Al. :(
Crash321 8 months ago
Hey, God put that tree there in the first place, when he could've just as well had kept it in his own garden up in whatever heaven. So he's the only one to blame. Also, since the tree was the tree of wisdom whatever.. it meant that Adam and Eve was seriously stupid before they ate the fruit and became smart. So how can God expect them to understand a rule given, before they have the wisdom to actually understand it?
Not like I care, I'm a happy-go-lucky and proud Satanist. ♥
SireYumi 8 months ago 20
@SireYumi damn dude never thought of that intelligence thing before, thought bout the other thing that god put it ther and stuff, but not that they were stjupid before hand thats actrually a very good point
hypoglycemix 8 months ago
@hypoglycemix Ikr? And it makes damn sense, too.
SireYumi 8 months ago
@SireYumi How can you believe in Satan if you don't believe in God?Not that believe in either of the two...
ArcaneMage54k 8 months ago
@ArcaneMage54k There are two types of Satanism, sweetie. The original/old Satanism and the modern/today's Satanism. Modern is all about the Devil and shit, while the old one - the original - was actually just people who had no belief in what people called "God" and thus was seen by the religious as "possessed", "evil" etc. Then the stories about Lucifer, Satan etc came to be and developed up till today.
Could write a book of it, but these comment boxes has their (indeed short) limit, bleh.
SireYumi 8 months ago
@SireYumi Riiiiiight thanks for the info it was useful.And thanks for calling me sweetie ;)
ArcaneMage54k 8 months ago
@ArcaneMage54k Me and my petnames, sorry 'bout that. I call my students 'sweetie' etc, too, haha. xD;;
SireYumi 7 months ago
@SireYumi No,I actually liked the fact that you called a sweetie.
ArcaneMage54k 7 months ago
@ArcaneMage54k Lol.
SireYumi 7 months ago
@SireYumi :D
ArcaneMage54k 7 months ago
@SireYumi You put it beautifully SireYumi! You have deployed reasoning here in a mathematical method that, if the whole world followed this reasoning (as opposed to mere superstition as is a necessity in this god delusion) then this means of interpreting our world and indeed our polyverse, would be millenia' ahead in our science! Religion holds the human species back. Best wishes.
Ebsteins31653 6 months ago
@Ebsteins31653 Why thank you, my good sir. I am a Satanist, but I'm not over-religious enough to start a war, or better yet a rant-video, about it. Which I see as a good thing for everyone, in my opinion.
SireYumi 6 months ago
God wanted humans to choose to love Him. He didn't want a bunch of robots just to say they loved Him, that's why He planted the tree in the first place. He wanted Adam and Eve to truly love Him like He loved them. He gave us free will to make our own decisions but He wants us to ask for help. In the Bible it says the tree of knowledge of good and evil, not just knowledge. Adam and Eve hadn't touched it until the serpent tempted them. Jesus was tempted too but He asked God for help. God bless <3
laughchuck 6 months ago 2
@laughchuck That's stupid, it's not about what god wants...because god KNEW, if he is omniscient, that they would eat it.
killerdec21 4 months ago
@killerdec21 exactly, its like parent giving a knife to a baby. what did you expect to happen? god of the bible is one of the worst gods ever.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
@laughchuck How were Adam&Eve supposed to know the difference between right&wrong if they hadn't eaten the fruit?
God doesn't let people choose, he bribes: it's heaven or hell. Good thing he doesn't exist.
Also how can a serpent know what's good&evil? all dogs go to heaven but not all serpents?
Unless you're saying the serpent was the devil in which case what was the devil doing there, shouldn't he be in hell?
LegionIscariot 4 months ago
@LegionIscariot omg read the bible please
MrPOJO99 4 months ago