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[almacOo]

man this is an old argument we know 80% of ashkenazim are semetic in origin... 20% are mainly slavic peoples....judaism is not only a religion but a people

[MrViTopol]

@almacOo ashkenazim are not semitic, check the Torah, ashkenazim are descendants of Japhet, not of Shem... judaism is a cult, not a race. that's why Karayim practicing that cult were not touched by nazis.

[AntiKyrgyz]

Reading the Satanic Talmud tells you all you need to know about the khazaar Jews who follow such demonic lies and hatred towards non-Jews. Courtesy of Satan himself. The European Jews are not the the descendants of Abraham.

[Nickidewbear]

By the way, Ashkenazic Jews (Karaite and "Rabbi"nical) have been linked not only to other Jewish groups and the Middle East via DNA, but Karaylar Karaim are a separate group from Yehudim Karaim, and Karaim in Hebrew means "Scripturalists".

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear The so-called Karaylar Karaim descend from Qaraite Jews who stopped identifying as Jews before 1950, and most of them profess a belief in J & M as prophets.

I'm unaware of any former Rabbanites of Ashkenazi background who keep identifying as Ashkenazic after having gone Qaraite, with the possible exception of Melech ben Ya`aqov.

Myself, I've given up my Ashkenazic "birthright". As far as I'm concerned I'm part of `Edot haMizrah ("The Communities of the Orient").

[Nickidewbear]

So? You're Yehudi Mizrahi, and you're still Yehudi. Whether we're fully Jewish, "mamzerim", etc.; Ashkenazic, Sephardic, Mizrahi, Lemba, etc. Jewish; we're still Jewish. However we identify doesn't change our Yiddishkeit one bit.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear Yiddishkeit is a term limited to denoting Ashkenazic Judaism and Jewishness.

Christian Lemba may be of the Seed of Yisra'el but are not Jewish.

[Nickidewbear]

1) "Yiddishkeit" is just a Yiddish word for "Jewishness" or "Jewish heritage". A word in any other language means the same thing.

2) Christian Lemba are Jews because Yeshua (Jesus) was a Jew.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear

1) True enough. Be that as it may, most individuals who employ this word mean it as Ashkenazic style Jewishness or Jewish heritage. This is the word's original meaning.

2) I already knew you from a Qaraite Facebook group from which you were tossed out for making such ludicrous claims. Here the vid's author won't block you but your argument remains nonsense all the same. Sorry if this offends you, but you're not entitled to expect me to take such arguments seriously even if u're

[ZviJ1]

@ZviJ1 determined to keep defining yourself as a "Jewish-Christian" or "Christian Jew".

[Nickidewbear]

1) Regardless of how others employ something, it doesn't change its meaning.

2) You're more willing to believe (whether or not you want to believe that you believe "Rabbi"nical) interpretations of Tanakh then Tanakh itself. How sad.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear

1) Thanks for concurring with me. We can put the discusssion on this to rest.

2) Believing Peshat interpretations of the Tanakh, which I do, is the same as believing the Tanakh itself. Try to cheer up. You're too young to react to online interlocutors with sadness.

[Nickidewbear]

You don't believe Peshat. If you did, you would accept Yeshua as Messiah.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear Sorry Nicole; you were easy prey, thus you fell for the Xtian "witnessing" malarky and you're currently incapable of seeing this. Hopefully YHWH will soon open your mind to Truth and help you repudiate your Christological negation of His pure holy words that He delivered to Moshe Rabbenu and by His Nevi'im (PBUT), namely the Peshat.

Shabbat Shalom.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear Nicole (and other Xtians masquerading as Jews), I encourage you to confront reality by open-mindedly approaching "light of israel" and "faithstrengthened" (Google these), critically examining each claim made therein and reaching your own conclusions.

Judging by how quickly you deleted the Channel comment I had left, Nicole (apparently your'e also afraid others will learn the truth), u seem to recognize deep down that belief in J is against Peshat and fear the Peshat pretty much.

[Nickidewbear]

And I blocked the vid's author for being an Anti Semite.

[ZviJ1]

@Nickidewbear Shavu`a Tov Nicole,

You've reacted to my attempt to show you the errors of your way in a typical denialist fashion of lashing out personally against the man trying to help you, and immediately proceeded to block me too.

Now... I demand you avoid making further references to me in the vids you upload. Todah in advance. If you comply I won't bother you anymore except to respond to the substance of erroneous claims you might raise in the future.

[ZviJ1]

AhavaYah, I'm not going to retort any of your racist crap since I (as everyone else here) don't see the point in descending to your level.

"During the holocost no Crimerian Karaite Jews were killed because Karaite Jews never practiced the attitudes of the Rabbinical Jews... The Karaite were spared... " (Not entirely true!!!)

You're historically illiterate and ignorant, otherwise you wouldn't have spouted such ludicrous statements. You don't know what you're talking about!

[bobthe345]

Karaite Jews are definitly Khazars genetically indistinquishable from other Jewish groups such as Sephardim, Ashquenazim and Mizrahim. The most serious Khazar Theory is the most serious rubbish recognized as rubbish by world's scientific community.

[Lagolop]

@ahavayah

U r fucked in "der kop". Jewish ppl migrated from Israel into the Rhineland of Germany and France over 1000 yrs B4 the Khazars converted to Judaism. Some Jews migrated EAST into Slavic lands, not the other way around. If Ashkenazi Jews (Ashkenaz is the Hebrew term for Germany), came from Khazars, they would be speaking some Khazaian tongue, not YIDDISH (one of the oldest Medieval west Germanic languages. U R trying to strip Jews of their rightful Israeli ancestry, but you fail.

[babadjan1950]

Could you inform me please which group from Crimea believes in Jesus and Mohamed? Could you provide us a concrete people? I am crimean karaim, and I never met this group! I hope you dont writte us about group which push karaim to convert to russian orthodox christianity? Have you a serious source which can confirm your fairy tails?

[ZviJ1]

@babadjan1950 I don't know the clip's author and am not defending him.

However, the fact is the great majority of Crimean Karaim still refuse to part with the Szapszaplian tenet holding J & M to be true prophets. Their belief in J & M is at least "indirect", but this is still a problem.

[SepherStar]

It's true that many European Karaites claim to be descendants of Khazars. However it's generally accepted within the Karaite and rabbinical communities that this was a myth the karaites propagated to avoid persecution for "killing Jesus".

Karaites ultimately primarily descend from the same gene pool as rabbinical jews in the same region.

[SepherStar]

There is no evidence to suggest that European jews or karaites derive the majority of their ancestry from the Khazars. The Khazars were small in number and their contributions to the gene pool were likely also small.

[Nickidewbear]

We only derived 12%-17% anyway (that is, only 12%-17% have any tracable Khazar blood whatsoever, and no Ashkenazic Jew is a gentile convert (i.e., Khazar).). We Ashkenazic Jews are and remain ethnic Israelites (Jews). Compared to Khazar blood, meanwhile, we have even more Slavic blood; and the majority of the blood that we have is Jewish blood.

[Nickidewbear]

The self-hating Jew known as Arthur Koestler only made the Holocaust and other Anti Semitism worse, meanwhile.

[hatemecuzihateyou]

I understand 50% of their Turkish lol... sweet :)

[acknumbers]

what about the fact that there have been ancient communities in the black sea region for over 1500 years.....???...the karaites are just older jews with less conversion confined to one geographical area in europe, while the rabbinates had lots of conversion, were new, and were all over the east europe...

and what about the 100,000 jews in old armenia??....

and then 2600 year old georgian community.....

if you want to disprove the jews then try anohter route...

[TTKTURAN]

Great, I come from Turkey and can understand all of the speaking part in karaim :)

Best greetings to my Turkic-Karaim brothers and sisters.

[Nadav34]

These are not jews. These are Russian Orthodox.

[AhavaYah]

No, they are Crimerian Karaim Jews. The descendents of Khazar Jews. These are not Russian Orthodox.

[amirishaq1]

There are two groups of Qaraims in the Crimea. The first are those who follow just the Tanach(OldTestament). The second group are those who accept Jesus and Muhammad as Prophets. The latter are the original Qedaric Qaraims. Their teachers(Priests) were Israelite exiles who settled in Medina Arabia. They descended from the Israelite Kohen tribe of Arabia(Qedar) called Bani-Qaraiza. In the Crimea they incorporated Tatars into their following. The former group were those Tatars who followed ...

[amirishaq1]

... Karaite Jewish teachers called

Ananites who rejected Jesus &

Muhammad. The Ananites attempted

to destroy the original Qedaric practices

such as Qaranic readings and the

acceptance of both Jesus and Muhammad To this day there are still those who maintain the original Qedaric practices which were established in Medina ,Arabia. During the Prophet Muhammad's time Arabia was

known as the "Land of Qedar" and Arabic

language was known as Lashon Qedar.

Parts of Crimea were later called Qedar.

[babadjan1950]

Descendants of Khazars are most probably Ashkenazi Levites, more than 50% of them have non-semitic yDNA haplogroups derived from R1

[AhavaYah]

That's true

[Nickidewbear]

Try again. "About half of Ashkenazic Levites possess Eastern European non-Israelite haplotypes belonging to the R1a1 haplogroup. This is almost never found among Sephardic Levites, and may have been introduced into the Ashkenazic Levite lines by Slavs or Khazars who converted to Judaism." (Kevin Alan Brook). So, Khazar blood may not even be in Ashkenazic Levites or Jews. Any gentile blood in any non-intermarriage-born Ashkenazic Jew may be all Slavic blood.

[Nickidewbear]

As for me, my great-granddad Czarnecki and dad did intermarry- as far as we know about my mom, anyway. Her paternal grandma, Alice M. Reilly Allen, had a Spanish (Sephardic?) granddad. As for the DeBoys, there was one Jew who married into one of the DeBoy lines are far as know; but Nana Allen's line is what I'm really looking at, at this point.

Great-Granddad, a son of Julian and Alexandria Czarnecki, married Mary M. Trudnak who (as far as we know) was a gentile- and Alexandria was pissed!

[Nickidewbear]

So, I'm a Ashkenazic Jew with some Frankish, Gaelic, Hispanic, and Slavic blood. So I'm no Khazar-descended Jew or purely-Ashkenazic-Jewish Jew. I'm a hodgepodge "mamzerah".

[AynurBazayev]

@babadjan1950 Not true, only 11% of the Ashkenazi population has R1 and this DNA is a Slavic DNA too. I know this because I'm a Khazar from Kazakhstan and Ashkenazim don't look like us one bit nor is their culture and language.

[ZviJ1]

@AhavaYah They are not Jewish and even categorically deny being so.

[Nickidewbear]

"Clearly, Karaite Jews and Karaylar-Karaites are two distinct and separate groups....If the Karaylar-Karaites left Karaite-Judaism, why did they keep the name "Karaite" or in their language "Karaylar"? The main reason is that the Karaylar-Karaites spoke an ancient Tataric language called "Karaim" and the name "Karaylar" identified them as speakers of this language and bearers of the associated cultural heritage."

(Nehemia Gordon)

[balkanturkic]

brotherhood !