Sayuri's first geisha dance

[porta0toda1la2vida]

Are you kidding me? This it not a geisha from Gion, like the book and the mvie says. Is a oiran!

[cheekylilsnotrag]

@kittenbut1, I'm sorry, but this is what you sound like:



"Nyah nyah I googled geisha culture and you didn't, I like Japan more than you do, so take that, random youtuber."

Dude. It's a movie. They never get details right and 95% of the time it doesn't matter. The movie never claimed to be historically accurate, it's just entertainment. It's a pretty movie. Calm down.

[487Cindy]

LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!

[goodytwoshoesdancer]

Every since Ive seen this movie it has become one of my all time favorites and Ive always wanted to do a lyrical ballet type dance with these type of fans, I just don't know where to get the fans from

[smithamymae]

@kittenbut1 also if you had watched the extras for the movie you would know that the designer wanted to modernise the traditional look of a Geisha for a western view. The lips were made fuller for example to relate to the idea of fuller lips being more attractive in a western culture. I agree that it is not the most historically accurate film, but we are not watching a history film, we are watching memoirs of a Geisha!! ps. I LOVE JAPAN!

[SuperElleBaby]

@smithamymae absolutely right! The movie wanted to capture the feeling of something that is breathtakingly beautiful and impressive. It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate.

[CupcakeAuslyn]

the guitar playing or w.e it is, is beautiful <3

[dominusmarkus]

to all haters: if you dont like the movie then stop watching it or make your own version after all no one ask 4 your opinion..

[EinAllesFreak]

It is realy a wonderfoul movie ! I Love it :)

But so many thinks are wrong in this movie !! unfortunately...

[ChewyChocs]

Over here she is still a Maiko, yes? Her collar is still red. Maikos have red collars while full-fledged geishas have white collars.

[TheButterscotchGirl]

For these complainers saying "It's wrong I'm clever listen to me you don't respect the culture as much as I do" etc etc whine whine whine. All I can say is: learn to contextualise. If you'd read the book, you'd know why the hair and dress were different or "wrong" as you call them.

[Kitsunegirl1212]

I have to admit, I LOVE Hatsumomo's kimono during this scene. It's so...gorgeous.

[hopeitwillendup]

I think... If she was about wielding her hands she should have chosen another dance: Lithuanian, Gypsian, Russian, wear normal clother *suited for her movements* and that even might be beautiful.

[mayaaaaa2008]

please tell me name of song anyone

<3

[YumeYasuu]

...

Personally I will just enjoy this movies a thousand times more, and I don't care wether it's realistic or not. It's a FILM guys, NOT reality. *sigh*

[mousikaz]

I really like the melody mamehas played.

Does anyone know the notes to the melody on the shamisen?

Or the name if the melody?

Or is the melody made up for the movie?

[PINKluvr01]

yeah i was wondering if maiko really have the same hairstyle as she did. and hatsumomos geiko hair is wrong too i think

[dagrandpoohbuh]

@PINKluvr01 Its wrong from the historical view...but for the book it is right. it was said that Hatsumomo would leave peices dangling...and would wear her hair in a sloppy manner that was unbecoming for geisha.

[orangetreedance]

Not an accurate dance...but still very beautiful. I like very much.

[xxxkimododragonxxx]

i agree, it isnt very accurate but still amazing to watch

[FluffnRipples]

I have this on DVD!

Love their Kimonos

[IXIChelseaIXI]

i love this movie!!!!!!

i like sayuri's dances, this one specifically

[nirvanawd08]

what instrement was she playing

[andr3filipe]

Shamisen

[Sawrattan]

What kind of dance is this? It's too fast for Japanese, no?

[BooshifiedDubbing]

@Sawrattan

Yes, I think they said in the extras on the dvd that they almost livened it up a little. (:

[Smileyface1996]

Cool

[FlamencoChe]

I finally saw the movie and it took my breath away. It's a wonderful story as wonderful as the book. I view each work separately and I have no problem with either ending. Both book and movie are a rich tapestry of human emotions, love, dreams, fate...I'm ready to fall in love again after...10 years!

[FlamencoChe]

My ex-girlfriend played background, but I couldn't see her. At least, I couldn't distinctly recognize her. My guess is that she appeared in the scene at the bridge when the Chairman meets Sayuri for the first time. My impression of the film? It is EXQUISITE! Beautiful!

[yelissa9]

i fell in love with both he movie and book the sceneries in the movie are beutiful and the descriptions in the book are very clear.

[FlamencoChe]

I loved the book, but I haven't been able to see this movie because it will stab me in the heart. The reason? My ex-girlfriend is in the movie. So what? Well, she left me in order to be in this movie. The irony? Although she is Japanese, she had not heard of the book until I gave it to her as a present nine years ago in 1998. Six months later, she met Arthur Golden through me at my company's party. I still love her.

[shishie4811]

wat part ur ex play in movie?

[gothicangel6664]

who did your ex play?

[saweetpop]

Most of the actresses, at least those who played main geisha, were Chinese, ya know.

[Neur0ticism]

Incorrect indeed, but beautiful...just breath-taking.

[kittenbut1]

But its still wrong. Nice movie, great plot, but very wrong o.o

[DuoBat66]

How can it be wrong when a real geisha told her life events to Arthur Golden, the author and the director of the movie?

Stop trying to sound smart and pick up the books.

[kittenbut1]

Well, it is wrong. The hair styles are not right for one.maiko have explicity hair styles, these look like puffy buns. Also, her lips are fully painted which indicates her as a senior maiko but she has the dangling flowers of a first year maiko. Mineko even said herself this story is potrayed wrong. I apperciate the culture more than you seeing as you rely on a movie.

[gemini1904]

thank you so much for clarifying that! You said it best! Not all understand the differences. So yes you are smart, and they need to pick up a book themselves. That was funny, and refreshing to hear someone else understand what they were seeing. I agree it was wrong. It was also wrong to use chinese characters. I am sure there are talented japanese women who could have doen these roles. Being American Indian I can understand the frustration one may have on this movie though it was good.

[kittenbut1]

Thanks :) I apperciate and research about them. The movie was romantic but it wasn't what a geisha or maiko is supposed to be. I am hurt that sometimes people defend it as an actual reality.I agree, using the chinese characters in the movie as well was weird, and the fact it was in Japan and was spoken in english. At least in "My Geisha" Where a caucasian woman pretended to be a Japanese, they spoke Japanese in it and so did she. That was an old movie, why can't they do movies normally?

[gemini1904]

I have researched about them and understand the differences between maiko and geisha, unfortunately there are many who entertain without concrete facts (for show, beauty, stardom, or whatever) deleting facts which are just as interesting. As much as peolpe "learned" from this movie, they could have been just as interested in the truth.

[dalekzruleyeah]

@kittenbut1 They did say they intended this film as an interpretation - not a documentary. They moulded things to make it look the way they wanted.

[TheButterscotchGirl]

@kittenbut1 Gotta hate a know-it-all.

[kittenbut1]

@TheButterscotchGirl shut the f*ck up

[TheButterscotchGirl]

@kittenbut1 No. I won't especially not for someone who's afraid to say "FUCK!" It's not going to hurt anyone.

[kittenbut1]

@TheButterscotchGirl ok. then shut the FUCK up

[padewij]

@kittenbut1 Well yea, but the woman who plays Sayuri is Chinese. And I think the movie would've been more beautiful if they'd all speak Japanese. But this is Hollywood. We don't get real culture.

[PikkuRiisa]

@kittenbut1 in addition, the dance is very not-geishalike. It's too fast and gaudy, tailored for western audiences.

[kittenbut1]

@PikkuRiisa yes exactly

[ExplodingCakes]

@kittenbut1 I completely agree that the movie isn't full to the book nor is it COMPLETELY accurate to the way geisha, but the director did it on purpose to make the appearance more appealing to americans.

[kittenbut1]

@ExplodingCakes I agree. It is not accurate but it does appeal to American audience.

[NobodyOfTheTardis]

@kittenbut1 The director said they were looking to show the geisha with a sort of Paris runway inspired change to the more traditional appearance. It's like when they did the film Hua Mulan: It is based on a poem , but in the poem there is no love story. Yet the director put a love story in as his little twist. No idea why they do it but I know what you're getting at. It annoys me too.

[NobodyOfTheTardis]

@kittenbut1 The Maikos often wore a bun that resembled a spilt peach and was very suggestive to the men. But you don't see many in the film.

[Anulik96]

@kittenbut1 You are definitely right about the hairstyles. But I still love the movie. As a film, its amazing and it opened up a whole new culture to me. As for the lips, I don't think hers are fully painted. Its just the white covers the portion thats not painted which makes it look like just part of the skin. So I'm not sure you're right on that but you definitely could be. But you have your facts straight and I'm happy someone did research too! =D

[oliball123]

@kittenbut1 well what do you expect

still a pretty cool movie

[alestane]

Mineko Iwasaki spoke with Arthur Golden, and he used some elements of what she said to him. Sayuri, though, is a completely fictional character, and what Golden used is, mostly, not personnal events from Iwasaki's life but rather background information on geiko/maiko.

Read Iwasaki's books (her autobiography is translated in english) if you want to know about her life, which is extremely different and not even in the same period as Sayuri's fictional one.

[alestane]

Golden wrote the book. Robin Swicord wrote the sceenplay. Rob Marshall directed the movie.

[izzyisozaki]

It's true. The Geisha elements were adapted to Western taste. I like it. But those who insist that it's the real thing are ignorant. They said it was their interpretation even in the extras of the DVD.

[pianyist]

Did You read the label on the back of the book that called it a work of fiction??

[kilala0]

Hahaha agreed lkl8!^^

[lkl8]

Lovely. If I did that, the fan would go flying across the room like a frisbee!