I find it ironic for a libertarian to announce that he will not let people abort. I understand Ron Pauls arguments regarding abortion, all life is precious etc. That is however a moral argument, worse, a religious one. A religious argument is contradictory in nature and can't exist; what you believe in is your affair.
paul maybe morraly right, but there will be a black market on abortion. just look at guns alcahol and drug running prostitution of all kinds. death is thought to be sexy. legalize it all, and it's not sexy.
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I had respect for Dr. Paul. He is a Gentleman and presents himself with class & dignity. I lost that respect for Dr. Paul when I learned he, as an intern, watched a baby be cut from his/her mothers' belly, put in a bucket on the floor, put in a corner to die while a room FULL of Dr.s/interns all watched & ignored that babys’ cries for help. What prevented him from taking that LIVE, CRYING baby out of that trash can and walking a few steps over to the Intensive Care Unit He's lost my respect.
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If you agree with nothing else Ron Paul has to say ( and I agree with about 90%), his call for immediate troop withdrawl is reason enough to vote for him ! NO OTHER candidate has any plan to get out of the Middle East in less than another decade ! We are bankrupt - our young soldiers' lives forever altered ,many disabled ,amputees -these are real people ! Any they don't even know why we are STILL there - another Vietnam . Why don't people learn from history ? VOTE RON PAUL!
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I had respect for Dr. Paul. He is a Gentleman and presents himself with class & dignity. I lost that respect for Dr. Paul when I learned he, as an intern, watched a baby be cut from his/her mothers' belly, put in a bucket on the floor and put in a corner to die while they all watched. What prevented him from taking that LIVE, CRYING baby out of that trash can and walking a few steps over to the Intensive Care Unit and saving it? He's lost my respect.
Yes, Ron Paul's newsletter had racial remarks, but Obama's pastor is a racist and his former buddy, Bill Ayers, was part of a terrorist organization. Same difference. However, the media was in Obama's favor, accordingly, everyone worshiped him like he was the second coming. The media largely black-lists Ron Paul because he is non-conformist, honest, and would overhaul the system, essentially dismantling the brainwashing machine that has so much influence over millions of fools like yourselves.
@acarlisl Obama is deceptive and pathetic, but having a racist pastor or racist friends is not the same as having your own name stamped on a racist propaganda pamphlet.
I do agree that Ron Paul is extremely honest (relative to other politicians). But I disagree with him because aside from his anti-war and anti-drug war stance, his policies empower the entitled, and make slaves of the working class.
@digitalbullshit Always one for the last word aren't you. I don't care if I am arguing with so many thats not evidence just statistics of what others BELIEVE.There are supporters in what I believe such as Answers In Genesis. I don't think you really do understand faith do you?I am no fool i have looked around and found truth i let it in now same as you did with your ideas an opinions.God Bless!God Bless America!Lest it fall to pieces.
@digitalbullshit Answers in Genesis You won't except the Bible as evidence then why should I except the dating methods used in "science" which have been proven wrong. My passion is not evidence but this world is since there is no record of civilization past 8,000 yrs that can be proven that old, everything can be explained Biblicaly , and the red blood cells (or bacteria) found in bones proves evolution wrong and plenty more! My belief has not broken once.God Bless! end-The close of this debate
@MrLittlelawyer Far be it from me to call myself a scientist, but I have a few questions.
If everything can be explained biblically, then why is my G-spot located up my ass? And why have so many churches been struck by lightning, while ZERO gay bars have suffered the same fate?
@TheRealCadaver Dude really don't get vulgar. Well you know those big things called steeples at the top of churches well you know that ain't to smart an idea all the time and you know God tells us to use some common sense in our lives to. And there are MANY churches that teach false doctrines these days such as the one Harold Camping goes to (if he does). Christianity isn't all just Jesus loves you. God is a just God and works out his purpose in all things he does.
@MrLittlelawyer I know the scientific reason the churches were struck by lightning, but why would they be struck in the first place? Surely not all of them were teaching false doctrines...
And let me rephrase the question: Why is my G-spot located inside my rectum?
@TheRealCadaver God is not Zeus someone very good can be struck by lightening and it still be part of Gods plan and purpose for that person. Maybe Gen. Jackson in the civil war sums up the question of providence best when he said "I know that God has destined the day I die and nothing I can do will change that day" he simply accepted the fact that he was going to die. Bad things happen as a result of Adams sin so we simply accept that bad things will happen to people. The-
Bible tells us that mans chief end is glorify God and enjoy him forever. When someone dies then their life has served its purpose. When bad things happen then they happen and God has planned it so who are we to say against the deity and Creator who could have just killed us all from the start. This question is like saying"why do people die" as a consequence of Adams sin that is why. God also tells us to be wise and use common sense. I have heard one story where after a church had been burned by-
-moslims the guy who did it later came back to the site to find the people praying in the ashes he later became a Christian. As to your second question all I have to say is God made us and honestly that is the weirdest question I have ever heard.
@TheRealCadaver BTW Prove God does not exist. You can't say that he doesn't exist cause there is no evidence because that doesn't proves he doesn't exist just says there isn't evidence which there is. So go ahead and prove he doesn't exist.
@MrLittlelawyer That's like me asking you to prove unicorns don't exist. It's a fallacious approach at best. Prove to me that unicorns don't exist! Just because there is no evidence proving their existence doesn't mean they dont exist.
The bad thing about your logic is that you are using The Bible to validate The Bible, which is just an intellectually flacid approach.
@TheRealCadaver What with an Atheists logic though? Unable to prove that god doesn't exist they resort to things such as simply saying "Its impossible!" without considering the possibility if you can't prove it isn't there then how can you say it doesn't just because you think it is impossible. Whats wrong with that? He gives us His word why does that not validate His existence? The problem with your logic is saying that God doesn't exist yet you can't prove it. Unicorns might have existed just-
is no proof against it. We might find fossils of one or there might not be any left that have not been destroyed!Who knows maybe Russia destroyed the last ones accidentally in a nuclear blast!Or I could say that maybe there is evidence that God does exist he has given us his word the things he wants us to know and do. Why can't that be accepted as evidence?Maybe simply how much countries seem to prosper when they turn to God, such as this country whose founding fathers believed in God.
Why isn't there a thing inside any of your comments that doesn't refer to something sexual? Also I think Aitheism has worked out well for the world to! I recently was sent a link to a list of Biblical atrocities. Many of these horrible things were punishment for thing those people had done such as the Egyptians keeping the Hebrews in slavery .But none could compare to a man named STALIN He committed horrible crimes as did the atheistic Communists before him as a result of Atheism in North Korea-
-An underground church was found while road work was being done all the people inside were laid out on the pavement and rolled over by the steam roller they were using to pave the road. This is what atheism has brought about (the creator communism was an atheist) and the french revolution! It all sounds so nice doesn't it so reasonable to huh? Honestly which BELIEF is better when you look at it.
@MrLittlelawyer Too many random points and poorly worded sentences for me to make a concise response. Let's try covering this one point at a time.
How do you know that The Bible is irrefutable truth? Because it says so in The Bible, of course!
Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works... Not.
@TheRealCadaver Hold on for a moment though. How do you know with all your science that those tests the scientific method in general works? How do you know that there is a computer in front of you? Well you see it don't you! But Many things you see are wrong such as all the optical illusions in the world so you can't trust your sight.But the you feel it to. Well many people can feel something yet it not be there and more have lost there sense of touch. This could keep going on and on around and-
@MrLittlelawyer If you're asking me how I can choose science over religion, I can sum it up in one sentence... Science will fly you to space, religion will fly you into a building.
If you're asking me which religion is best, well, that's completely subjective. I'd say just about any Eastern religion trumps Christianity. As for the 'good' that has been done by Christianity in comparison to other religions... Yeah... Don't get me started on that.
@TheRealCadaver Christianity has not done so many bad things as running planes into the World Trade Center! Many will say the inquisitions, crusades, Salem witch trials. But the Bible says to do none of these things so these Christians were doing them without the authority to do so. The inquisitions were definitely NOT justified as many of the people were fine people such as Hus who was burned because some Catholics were afraid of losing power.The Crusades?Well there weren't jihading moslims in-
-Europe because of them! Ok so what is the good of flying to space? YOUR NEXT EXAMPLE IS HORRIBLE!
I have a hunch that is referring to the world trade center...As we come upon that fateful day again I would like to make that an example of what other religions have done. Of exactly what the crusades were trying to stop. I saw those people jumping from those buildings. And ever since I have just hated the idea of islam as the religion of "peace" as atheist North Koreans kill Christians and hitler-
-killed millions of people(something your not told is that not all of them were Jews but some Christians)in concentration camps in the name of science making people carry rocks from one end two the other of the camp until they died and more in that name of science which I care not to mention. Just about any thing trumps Christianity ? I don't think so.
and around. I have said before that if I were to do something like clean your house and leave a note saying I did it wouldn't you naturally suspect I did it? Well not only does it say this is what the Creator of the universe is saying to you but so many things seem to match up with its account of creation and more. For example for hundreds of years no one knew of the Hittites and the Bible mentioned them people thought it was a fairy tail then...Why we dig up the remains of their empire!-
-it is not like the Bible hasn't been right A LOT OF TIMES.Oh about those poorly worded sentences not all of them are impossible to understand.I think that the one about steamrollers going over people in the name of communism which was invented by atheism was pretty understandable.Forgive the bad sentence structure It was late at night and I had already posted a few comments elsewhere in other debates.Please answer my question, which one is better when you look at what they have done for people.
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Look, I know that you were probably indoctrinated at a VERY young age. And I'm not looking to rip on your religion or whatever. The point I'm trying to get across is: religiously fueled views rarely, if ever, come from a place of logic. Being devoutly religious often means doing so at the expense of intellectual honesty, and at times, common sense.
@TheRealCadaverLook yourself man!How would you know I was "indoctrinated" my parents taught me and I listened then when i got older I looked up the fact and learned more on my own I decided they were right. If your going to say that I will say you were probably indoctrinated to believe in the theory of evolution! Ok then what about the american revolution?We got through that war because of our united belief in liberty and freedom this idea stemmed from many peoples belief in God!John Adams said-
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."Really!Honesty!Common Sense!In God We Trust! Is our national motto and our national anthem has it in it.And you can't say our founding fathers didn't have Common Sense.Such as Patrick Henry!And if Jefferson was a deist why would he say Indeed"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever"So has religion done a lot of good?
@MrLittlelawyer Umm, again, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure our national anthem doesn't have lyrics about gods or religion. And "under god" wasn't added to our Pledge Of Allegiance until the 1950's.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect." - James Madison
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) The Christian church has killed off entire cultures with their self-righteous attrition. Many of the pagan tribes and colonies in Europe were completely wiped out, or were forced to convert under threat of execution, as were the different tribes of the Nican Tlaca empire in North and South America. Alot of nordic tribes weren't even given the chance to convert, entire villiages were massacred and burned to the ground.
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Western religions (like Islam and Christianity) have caused more violence and death than every disease since the dawn of civilization.
(By the way, there's no such thing as a "moslim." Just thought I'd put that out there.)
People have used religion to justify crimes against humanity since its inception. It continues to ostracize people, supress intellectual growth, and subjugate people to this very day. I fail to see how it is a good thing.
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) To further clarify. I said that any EASTERN religion trumps Christianity (Judaism and Islam by extension). There were never any mass genocides in the name of Hindu, Dao, or Buddhist gods.
Hitler was delusional enough to think his race was divinely ordained to rule. He used that as justification to carry out genocide and crimes against humanity. Attributing atheism as the sole cause of The Holocaust or the massacres in Korea is intellectual dishonesty.
@TheRealCadaver What about Stalin though? And I wonder what those Nordic tribes had done first to make them so angry at them. And those African tribes? Really! Those people sold their own people to Europeans for slavery!. And don't you dare go linking islam with Christianity that is sort of crazy compared to what the "muslims" have done and what their quran teaches, when compared to how much good Christianity has done. E.G. This year was one of the worst for tornadoes in america.-
- A lot of people lost their home and some family members. Now in the midst of all this MANY churches were helping to restore what was lost. i have relatives who live in an area that got hit by a tornado as soon as it happened their church donated money to buy food, clothes, equipment, and other things that would be needed to rebuild. My family donated money to another family who lost their house father and many of them were injured. About those other religions, have you looked up how cruel-
-their gods are supposed to be? Hinduism is why India is in the shape its in. People starving in the streets! Also hindus believe the world is just going to keep getting destroyed and that you have to be good to get out of your caste limiting your freedoms so much that life itself is slavery. AND I said that if it weren't for atheism communism would not exist so therefore no Hitler, Stalin,or Kim Jong-il.You can't deny that! So if he used that as justification and so makes atheism not at fault-
-then how does people saying they are doing it in the name of religion make religion the problem? They would do it anyway and probably under a different name. It was practically speaking the main cause. So intellectual dis honesty eh? Ever heard Reagan's joke about how many potatoes there were in Russia? If evolution were true then one race in some sense would be higher than the other. So there you see that atheism was at the root of the problem with Hitler. The fact remains that atheism caused-
communism and that has caused 100,000,000 men, women, and children's death along with 30,000,000 of the communist countries subjects killed in wars. Thousands of people have died in pagan religions such as the aztecs Have you looked up how many deaths there have been from disease there has been since-oh you said there was a dawn of time? Where did time come from?Those people who killed so many people can call themselves Christians but are being hypocritical because the Bible says"you shall not-
@MrLittlelawyer Again, too many straw-man arguments for me to even bother. Christian doctrines are contrived from INTERPRETATIONS of The Bible. Hence the justification of slaughtering pagan tribes. There is no way to definitively say that your interpretation is correct or incorrect.
And America is not a Christian nation, whether you accept it or not.
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) As it stands, all Western religions ostracise people, supress intellectualism, and subvert otherwise healthy societies. All religions and superstitions are destructive by their very nature, but Western religions have the worst track record. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are ALL Western religions and have VERY similar doctrines. They serve the same purpose: to control and supress intellectual growth under the guise of 'morality.'
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Young Earth Creationism, "Intelligent Design," "American (Christian) values," the notion of demons and angels, the notion of "sin," the notion of "divinity"... All forms of intellectual dishonesty and outright willful ignorance. Christianity adapts to the times, and so the lunacy of their dogma has to change to accomodate an increasingly reason-based world.
@TheRealCadaver Straw-man arguments you say I make while you ignore one thing I say and simply slander others. So do you accept that communism was the fault of atheism that that was the basis on which it was founded on? Western Religion? So you are not just speaking of Christianity alone are you? That defeats the point of your argument! Yes I will say that they do have similar doctrines but are not the same thing at all. In fact I would expect them to be alike considering-
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him....
...9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.
@MrLittlelawyer ...20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
...Yup, they would NEVER advocate harming a child.
-that Islam simply copied Christianity in many ways ,but definitely not all ways since they went through all the middle east and burning and converting by the sword. There i no were in the Bible it tells Christians to kill except in the defense of ones self ,but the quran tells muslims to kill Christians and infidels. What of atheism though? It has done horrible deeds! What about abortion? Its ideas where founded in atheism and millions of babies where killed like the one described by Ron Paul-
-.The reason I say that it was founded in atheism is that Christians have always opposed killing children. Back in the days of the Romans they would put their babies where the dogs would eat them. Christians would often come here and sneak away with the children.The average number of children killed each year by abortion is 46,000,000. So this is the "morality" that is naturally there and what atheists think we should follow and set up as law?And don't say I set up a straw man look up the facts-
-I have looked up what you say to see if you were right you do the same. Lastly I will say that no, America is not a Christian-CONTINENT (lol) No the USA is not a Christian country, not anymore. Funny though how stubborn you are saying "And America is not a Christian nation, whether you accept it or not." Even if i were to give you the facts you would simply refuse them. You won't except that Christianity in and of itself has not done that much wrong. You have to tie it with western religion t-
-o make it so horrible which it isn't. Atheism keeps the mind within the idea that there is no God I would think this suppresses the mind just as much. You never answered me on homosexuality either. The people of Paris put up a statue during the revolution. Do you know what her name was?
@MrLittlelawyer And for the record, militant atheism IS just as irrational as any religion. It too advocates a narrow world view. I'm simply saying that all religions are forms of subjugation. I'm not championing atheism, as you seem to assume. That's the problem with religioous zealots and militant atheists; it's all about assumtions.
-murder " I mean seriously and you say these people were actually Christians and believed it was right? Of course there was a reason the Catholic church kept the Bible in Latin (maybe cause they wanted to twist it to fit there needs). Its an honorable thing to help the poor, sick, and lame. Liberty as well is taught in the Bible. The way history has been twisted is horrible but if you look at the declaration it says where our rights come from. Ever heard God Bless America!?
But what of AIDS funny that such a disease should exist and we find out about it now when the Bible says homosexuality causes disease a long time ago.
@TheRealCadaver 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans 1:26-27
"receiving in themselves that recompense" Sounds like disease to me!
@digitalbullshit So sorry dude just realized my sister didn't sign out of her account when using my computer that was actually me btw then prove with fact that he doesn't exist. There is no evidence doesn't prove it didn't happen! I could do something leave no evidence but a note saying I did it couldn't I? Besides there is proof such as already given the magnificence of this world! Really with that argument I could say that you don't exist since I don't have evidence, you could be a computer!
-those supposed contradictions and atrocities I could show them wrong and I will admit a couple of them really tested me I wondered about it then looked a little more and found an answer! When you or I sit in a chair we have faith that the chair will hold us up not knowledge of it until we sit in the chair. I have tried reasoning there is the proof but if you won't accept it then, your loss. You have now resorted to harsh words as your name says a lot of BS so I find no more importance to this.
@digitalbullshit No-Proof! Are you kidding me what have I been doing all this time!?! I am just plain sick of debating facts you won't accept. Atheists are broken records and trust me I have gone through many. You know nothing of science! You know nothing of science! Or put your God under that scrutiny you do us! Or put your God under that scrutiny you do us! What you don't get is that I do! I once said that and my answer! Oh yhen you should have left your belief. I had my bible open as I read-
@digitalbullshit It seems that something has happened you with as has happened with almost all my debates...Well if you have resorted to just saying YOUR WRONG YOUR WRONG YOUR WRONG. Then I see no point in debating any longer. You might catch me on that site you sent the link for. I said before atheists provide a challenge and that site is full of them so I just can't wait! My mind is a fortress with gates open to the truth but I know fake truth when I see it.
But there has never been any scientific proof prove there never was or is.And yet the sheer complexity of the world would indicate that somebody did something not just spin the invisible wheel for years and years but instead there was a master creator.True there have been some changes in animals through out the years but monkeys have not turned into men before.Provable with what that there was no supernatural intervention. Provable with your senses!Men lose those senses so what proof is that?
@digitalbullshit So evidence it is what I have stuck to this whole time. You say that yet cannot prove it? God doesn't tell people things any more there is no need for prophets because we have the Bible. So that client would be lying I have given you proof yet you seem to refuse it constantly. I looked at that site you showed me all I saw was someone trying to prove their point by convincing people that god is murderous, treacherous psychopath but not putting up all the evidence.
@digitalbullshit According to his standards we all for our sins deserve death so really he could kill us all and still be just in his decision for killing rebels.
And in that place of God you are simply his creation. When i play with my Lego toy and it doesn't do what I want it to then what do I do with it? Take it apart and build something better yet when God made us he knew we would do everything wrong yet instead of just wiping us out he has done what he did and has every right to since he is God.There have been countless times that the women and children have been killed in war I would think a God would have just as much right to do it as others have.
@digitalbullshit I would absolutely love to go on through every one of these and more but there isn't enough room in the YouTube comment. I will say this If you think that if God existed would he be worthy of that praise well lets see He would then have 1Created you 2Allowed you a rebellious person to live for a certain time(the punishment for this is normally death by our standards)3Sent his son to die in many peoples place. Understand he is worthy of anything as a supreme Creator and deity.-
@digitalbullshit What about starting with what you know and fitting the Bible and what it teaches into that like a wall with out a corner stone the Bible can be that cornerstone.
@digitalbullshit Really we know better today? Why is there nuclear threats? People who still believe in Wicca?Or fortune tellers?I really don't see any difference in knowing better than 3000yrs ago. I don't just say God did it but prove he did. Go to answers in Genesis .com and look up carbon dating and Bacteria found in T-rex bone.
@digitalbullshit So that also is just a theory.. And Why not 6,000 yrs or maybe 8,000. Even with most catastrophes you can think up the population of the earth would be huge if man really was around 10,000-30,000+ yrs There would be an enormous amount of people here.
@digitalbullshit Pasteur did many things to prove evolutionist of his day wrong he fought for what he believed in and I think that research probably saved my life or one of the members of my family. (A bat encounter) Uh dude please honestly I don't think that would work and you don't have to call what I believe crap just as I haven't called your belief the same. It's also clearly stated not to be a cure. Rather, it's celebrating and thanking God when someone appears to be cured.
@digitalbullshit The truth in science yes but not the truth of science. I trust in the Lord to guide me in my decisions but that doesn't mean I don't look up the facts about some one or some thing. Fact... something always said but almost never proven.
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I actually do intend on becoming a lawyer or common wealth attorney. Possibly if I am successful then to go on with ambitions such as Ron Paul has. I do keep it open but only for what is true. And there are many lies out there. Well I for one can't quite keep this up since my Mom and Dad think it would be best to be off the comp and be more at my school. :)
@digitalbullshitI have and it isn't a pretty world.Then why don't people in the name of "science" do this manipulation.It doesn't work.But those cells are alive aren't they?Besides most abortions take place after 21 days which is when there is a beating heart Who?We?Opening my mind and accepting things which don't make sense?I am not waking up to anything I know the world is a bad place and its no surprise to me what goes on in it.My mind is a fortress with open gates for truth alone to come in
He told the Hebrews to kill all amalikites because they were killing the children and old men and women at the rear of the army innocents. Killing children hhmmm kinda remind you of something doesn't it.
@digitalbullshit Are you crazy? I read my bible every day and it does not say to do this! it gives a biblical definition of slavery which is much like being an indentured servant. You are a slave to someone if they are in debt. Indeed they could have done bad I thought of that but we don't know about what good or bad they WOULD HAVE DONE they are innocent its not there fault they came into existence. Besides if you don't want the baby you can you can give he/she up for adoption. Murder is wrong.
@digitalbullshit Those walls stand strong they are my ideas and opinions what I have found to be true and they do not break without the truth to do so. That truth I have not found in evolution and all the worlds idea of "science". Think of men such as Isaac Newton and their science the successes they have made if you think that the world can't make sense with God then how foolish are you? The scientific method proves evolution wrong as you cannot observe test and repeat evolution.
@digitalbullshitDid those scientist of evolution really help me?And is it really a mind block.If I have one what about you so bent upon your theorys you won't consider the fact that to be scientific it has to be observable testable and repeatable.And you can't do that with evolution.I consider more than just what is known by others as science and it makes sense.Did he really help me that much compared to people who did not believe in evolution?Alexander Fleming,Florence Nightingale,Louis Pasteur
@digitalbullshit There is the explanation of sin. which changed the world we disobeyed and are punished that is why bad things happen the first human sinned and all suffer from it. Those scientists estimate these things they don't know for sure of them. I have no doubt the universe is vast but even so how did those animals living on the stromatolites (which are rocks) survive they would have been killed by ultra violet light. our atmosphere would be like that of Venus or Mars.
@digitalbullshitIts not factual and I do look up the things I say.There is no missing link.That overwhelming majority doesn't matter if they are following a false theory.Many things which were dated to be so many years old they shouldn't have radiocarbon in them were found to have it.And did you hear about the red blood cells(or bacteria)found in a T-rex bone?Proving the bone could not have been as old as the tests said it was! Those words are often used together and connected in studies often.
@digitalbullshit Then why are we not evolving today! Where is the missing link! And you notice there is a similarity between us and chimps I did not say that wasn't there and if it was so close that there is hardly no different why aren't chimps building cars. It just doesn't make sense that we as complex as we are and this world and universe that it could all come about by chance. And that in the time period we were developing that we all weren't wiped out by something.
@digitalbullshit Why did she have sex in the first place. And if she got raped well things happen its not the baby's fault and he/she cannot help themselves. i mean abuse of sex has caused hardships throughout the country. My Dad is a lawyer and I go and watch his cases many times and would like to go more. Many of the custody cases I hear about (you can't go and watch these start with someone having sex then not caring about the consequences. But if its not alive it will be!
Go to every Ron Paul video and hit the like button. If you have a facebook account, put Ron Paul videos on your status updates daily. The media wants to ignore him but the people will elect him if we work as hard as he does!
I love Ron Paul. The only candidate who makes "logical sense". The only thing is that our system is too far gone, I am afraid, that he would be assassinated before taking office. This time thought, we would all know the truth.and rise up against these elite bankers running the show
The media keep saying, "Ron Paul can't get elected because all he can do is get people to vote for him". They imply that getting votes is secondary to the real purpose of politics, to get big money to back you. This is wrong. Further, they dismiss his 2nd place showing as a trick. Well if its such an easy trick why didn't the rest of the candidates do it? Newt, Pawlenty, Rommney, and Perry couldn't get Paul's totals combined. Perhaps "they lack of a REAL organization" should be the story.
The De facto Congress has repeatedly violated their Oaths of Office, fiduciary responsibilities, and in many cases, committed treasonous acts against “We the People” of the united States of America and the world.
@Pasithea Abortion is murder at 21 days the baby's heart is beating and then the baby is killed after this has happened. Why do you get angry? Do you care about your rights? What about the child whose heart is beating what about his/her rights? It is murder and is wrong. Would it be a medical decision if a person who just annoyed you an enormous amount but never did wrong you killed for your "health". You are forced to obey the law and that is not torture it is murder to kill innocents.
@MrLittlelawyer If another human being is physically attached to my body against my will and is using my nutrients and causing very serious psychological, physiological, and hormonal changes to my body I have every right to put a stop to those changes. Ending a pregnancy stops those unwanted changes. I don't care about your right to life or anyone else's for that matter. The moment you infringe on my right to bodily autonomy and start using me to physically survive I have the right to say no.
@PasitheaYouforget that baby is also attached to you against his/her will.If you don't care about my rights to life then you have just as good said you would stab I knife through me if I was old and you were paying for my medicare.What if you were that child and your mom decided she just you know didn't want to deal with you so she decided to kill you.You wouldn't like it right?If this is the opinion of most of our country on life no wonder our country is failing.You disregard the soldiers life.
@MrLittlelawyer If my mother had aborted me I clearly would not care because I would not exist to care. If she did not want me at the time I would have preferred she had aborted me anyways. She had every right to do so.
Also medicare is not a system where you physically attach yourself to my body. So that makes absolutely no sense as an analogy. You being on medicare does not affect my bodily autonomy.
@Pasithea Medicare is where I would pay for your medicine and hospital care. It wouldn't make me physically attach myself to you but would take care of you because the taxes I would be paying would be going to the care of your body. I don't know if you would have thought that if she had done it, and you had missed everything you have done up until now and known you missed it. I said btw that what about the baby attached to you against his/her will? No she or you wouldn't have that right the r-
-ights endowed on us by our creator does not give us the right to kill defenseless innocents because they came into being! That is like saying in court "well your honor he was doing things to me he didn't want to do but he was so I think I had the right to kill him". Our right are clearly laid down before us in the Constitution one of these is life and as Dr.Paul says ALL life. If you don't care about a babies life then why do you care about the soldiers?Same concept different age no difference.
@MrLittlelawyer Sorry. Not a God believer here. Also I care about those who have been born. Those who have not yet been born are meaningless to me because until you are born you don't even exist in my opinion, as in you don't even have a soul.
@Pasithea I said before there is a beating heart same thing as being born for one is in the womb and unable to defend itself the other is out in a universe capable of defending itself.A soul A soul?The very statement defies your previous one about God.I don't really care about this discussion anymore. You have said you don't care about the right to life under certain conditions and so support murder.I won't be answering anymore comments as of now for I will not throw my pearls before swine.
@MrLittlelawyer A cow has a beating heart too and quite frankly more cognitive brain waves than a fetus. Also why can't I believe in the concept of souls without the concept of a deity? There are many different religions and spiritual ideas. I have my own personal spiritual beliefs and their is no god/goddess involved. I will say it again. A woman should always have the right to control her own reproductive organs regardless of what happens to be in them at any point in time.
@Pasithea I mean to say something to you regardless of your gender or beliefs, a child has rights to life according to our constitution and according to our constitution and declaration of our belief and independence only men have these rights. I WILL say this again as well. The child has rights and no way to protect them these are above all things endowed upon him/her by him/hers creator the rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness which upon coming into being are his/her's. This is-
-the law of the land the belief which within 200yrs built the strongest most powerful nation in history! Greater than any other ROME CARTHAGE! Eat our dust lest we fall to the dust the same ways they offered their illegitimate babies to moloch and the wolves. Let us remember these and not experiment with change let the test tubes explode and bring us down. Remember this. (BTW I am sorry if you took my meaning in my first comment wrong. When I said men had rights I meant both men and woMEN.)
@Pasithea NONSENSE! Oh please I am 14...*face palm* No wonder this country is becoming Carthage reincarnate... this country is made of greedy self centered idiots.Did you know that Carthaginians offered their illegitimate babies to moloch? Then started offering their own because they didn't want to deal with the inconvenience? They fell because other races and cultures overpowered them because of that and their petty squabbles over government. 2010 census? More Hispanics then ever.Not long and-
America ain't gonna be around if we don't do something. Europe covered in moslims and all. Throughout this debate or discussion you fail to realize the point. If you or I fail to respect human life at any stage no matter where or what reason the consequences are fatal not just to you or I but to the country we affiliated ourselves with. Its why there is a death penalty people who don't respect life have done the worst pssible and should be punished ultimately. People like you who care about the-
@MrLittlelawyer Ah. So you DON'T really value all human life. If you did truly value human life you would not only be against war but against capital punishment. Sounds like you only value CERTAIN life, under CERTAIN criteria. If they don't fit that criteria then it's ok to kill/murder them. Got it. Hypocrite. Look if you want to live in a society that strips women of their civil rights and rights to control their own bodies Saudi Arabia agrees wholeheartedly with you.
@Pasithea I am NO hypocrite.Get that in you thick skull. You are correct their is in time a point where a person has lost their rights to life. Those times are when as such they in their choices disregarded another rights to their life. MURDER the killing of innocents! DO YOU THINK A RAPIST AND KILLER ARE INNOCENT! I am sick of this worthless argument with someone who doesn't even look at the facts and is now telling me to drop my argument!? Women have there rights and killing an innocent is no-
@MrLittlelawyer You say you're not a hypocrite and then in the same sentence admit I am right. Well done. If you valued life you would be against the intentional killing of ALL humans to say the least, or even to a further extent all living animals with a heartbeat since that seems to be the criteria you have specifically provided that one must meet to have their life protected under the law. At least be consistent with your beliefs and thought patterns.
@MrLittlelawyer There is a huge difference between an entity residing inside my uterus and saving a person falling off a cliff. At least by holding the man up I don't have to worry about some of these major side effects, abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness, pelvic floor disorder, hemmorhoids, loss of dental and bone calcium, dropped (prolapsed) uterus, pre-eclampsia, severe post-partum depression and psychosis, and many, many more. I will gladly send the list if you like.
-t one of them. The right to control their body is among those rights but NOT the body of the child relying upon it. If an old man where about to fall off a cliff and you grabbed hold of his hand and had to hold him there unable to pull him up till help came would you decide since you had control over your body to drop him? I can't stand arguing with idiots. I am no hypocrite murderers don't have the rights to their lives since they forfeited them. Infanticide is the same as abortion since the-
-abortions normally take place after the baby has a beating heart and many other similar characteristics including a brain. Now at last I will say that I am not moving to Saudi Arabia because if you look at my profile it say something about my belief which would cause me to be at risk there or any moslim country. We all have rights endowed on us by our creator men women and all children. They are numbered and are not limitless but by acknowledging them, we are free.
@MrLittlelawyer At least let me ask you this one question Mr. LL. If a woman were to have her pregnancy terminated do you believe she should be executed under the law for having an abortion or essentially committing murder in your eyes? What is the punishment that should follow for women who willingly have abortions?
@Pasithea If it were outlawed a declared as law that it was illegal and she got an abortion done? Yes. She knowingly committed murder and therefore is punishable by law. Now if the law was not in place she did not knowingly kill only was told and only knew this was a "health" decision.
@MrLittlelawyer Abortion IS healthcare. It directly affects the health of the woman. So much so that women have even DIED in childbirth. In fact there is risk of death and severe damage with EVERY pregnancy. A woman should never be FORCED to endure that risk without her full and ongoing consent. Speaking of which, how would you intend to force women to remain pregnant? With oral abortifacients being so easily available a woman can terminate her pregnancy in the privacy of her own home.
@MrLittlelawyer So with the knowledge of that, what would you intend for the government to do to enforce the horrible law you wish to enact? Test every menstruating young woman for pregnancy? Lock them away and tie them down if they expressed thoughts to anyone about possibly wanting to abort? How do you enforce it!?
-ir wants and needs and not others are destroying this country. While you would respect your body you wouldn't respect the life of one relying on that body against that ones choice.Just to clarify Hispanics aren't bad its just that they are not the ones who founded the country and many weren't born here and have immigrated for money. I did not diverge I simply said that we will be following Rome and Carthage because of Abortion, Illegal Immigration, and Divorce. Look at history its very scary.
@MrLittlelawyer Once again, you're just talking nonsense. What ARE you talking about? I thought we were discussing abortion but it seems you've mixed a myriad of other irrelevant topics into the conversation.
@Pasithea If you don't know your history you will be an idiot the rest of your life. Do you even know who the Carthaginians were? I am speaking of them and how we emulate them so well. Their actions which caused them to fall. You are talking nonsense. I am not muddying the waters. Infanticide...was practiced in Carthage they burned their children because the were an inconvenience or because they wan'ted good luck from moloch they disregarded those lives because they hadn't "lived" it yet,
@MrLittlelawyer Lots of people have been killed, murdered, maimed, raped and so on throughout history. But that is totally irrelevant to the topic of abortion which involves the removal of an embryo or fetus from a woman's uterus at her own discretion. Something that is and should remain private between her and her healthcare provider because it is IN FACT something that directly involves her personal health, physically and psychologically.
I find it ironic for a libertarian to announce that he will not let people abort. I understand Ron Pauls arguments regarding abortion, all life is precious etc. That is however a moral argument, worse, a religious one. A religious argument is contradictory in nature and can't exist; what you believe in is your affair.
Reaver217 1 month ago
@Reaver217 Fuck that, these people shouldn't be having sex if they aren't ready for the consequences, simple as that.
RhetoricGamingHD 1 month ago
@RhetoricGamingHD Agreed.
Reaver217 1 month ago
paul maybe morraly right, but there will be a black market on abortion. just look at guns alcahol and drug running prostitution of all kinds. death is thought to be sexy. legalize it all, and it's not sexy.
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I had respect for Dr. Paul. He is a Gentleman and presents himself with class & dignity. I lost that respect for Dr. Paul when I learned he, as an intern, watched a baby be cut from his/her mothers' belly, put in a bucket on the floor, put in a corner to die while a room FULL of Dr.s/interns all watched & ignored that babys’ cries for help. What prevented him from taking that LIVE, CRYING baby out of that trash can and walking a few steps over to the Intensive Care Unit He's lost my respect.
thenewmike2012 5 months ago
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If you agree with nothing else Ron Paul has to say ( and I agree with about 90%), his call for immediate troop withdrawl is reason enough to vote for him ! NO OTHER candidate has any plan to get out of the Middle East in less than another decade ! We are bankrupt - our young soldiers' lives forever altered ,many disabled ,amputees -these are real people ! Any they don't even know why we are STILL there - another Vietnam . Why don't people learn from history ? VOTE RON PAUL!
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vechorik 6 months ago
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I had respect for Dr. Paul. He is a Gentleman and presents himself with class & dignity. I lost that respect for Dr. Paul when I learned he, as an intern, watched a baby be cut from his/her mothers' belly, put in a bucket on the floor and put in a corner to die while they all watched. What prevented him from taking that LIVE, CRYING baby out of that trash can and walking a few steps over to the Intensive Care Unit and saving it? He's lost my respect.
thenewmike2012 6 months ago
This dude is half idiot
champignons0magiques 6 months ago
Straw poll troll:
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JohnnyJohnW 6 months ago
Look at the neckbeard at 1:51
jacobdenton9 6 months ago
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TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
Yes, Ron Paul's newsletter had racial remarks, but Obama's pastor is a racist and his former buddy, Bill Ayers, was part of a terrorist organization. Same difference. However, the media was in Obama's favor, accordingly, everyone worshiped him like he was the second coming. The media largely black-lists Ron Paul because he is non-conformist, honest, and would overhaul the system, essentially dismantling the brainwashing machine that has so much influence over millions of fools like yourselves.
acarlisl 6 months ago
@acarlisl Obama is deceptive and pathetic, but having a racist pastor or racist friends is not the same as having your own name stamped on a racist propaganda pamphlet.
I do agree that Ron Paul is extremely honest (relative to other politicians). But I disagree with him because aside from his anti-war and anti-drug war stance, his policies empower the entitled, and make slaves of the working class.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
I would love to see this man become president. I just think his views are a little too radical for the public at this time, unfortunately.
MetallicOpeth 6 months ago
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TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Always one for the last word aren't you. I don't care if I am arguing with so many thats not evidence just statistics of what others BELIEVE.There are supporters in what I believe such as Answers In Genesis. I don't think you really do understand faith do you?I am no fool i have looked around and found truth i let it in now same as you did with your ideas an opinions.God Bless!God Bless America!Lest it fall to pieces.
Sincerely,
A person who is yet still valiant for truth.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
Go away trolls
ajgsxr 6 months ago
So let me get this straight.
1. Ron Paul witnessed a cruel murder of an infant.
2. He did nothing about it.
3. And you will vote for this moron?
TomValedro 6 months ago
@TomValedro
He had no power in that situation, blame the people who had say and a hand on control of that situation you idiot
TerminusPro 6 months ago
@TerminusPro No power? He had every power to report it to the police. retard?
TomValedro 6 months ago
@TomValedro
By than it is already too late, and the act would not have been stopped either way.
TerminusPro 6 months ago
@TerminusPro the people who committed it would have been held responsible.
TomValedro 6 months ago
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TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
for years*
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Answers in Genesis You won't except the Bible as evidence then why should I except the dating methods used in "science" which have been proven wrong. My passion is not evidence but this world is since there is no record of civilization past 8,000 yrs that can be proven that old, everything can be explained Biblicaly , and the red blood cells (or bacteria) found in bones proves evolution wrong and plenty more! My belief has not broken once.God Bless! end-The close of this debate
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Far be it from me to call myself a scientist, but I have a few questions.
If everything can be explained biblically, then why is my G-spot located up my ass? And why have so many churches been struck by lightning, while ZERO gay bars have suffered the same fate?
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver Dude really don't get vulgar. Well you know those big things called steeples at the top of churches well you know that ain't to smart an idea all the time and you know God tells us to use some common sense in our lives to. And there are MANY churches that teach false doctrines these days such as the one Harold Camping goes to (if he does). Christianity isn't all just Jesus loves you. God is a just God and works out his purpose in all things he does.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer I know the scientific reason the churches were struck by lightning, but why would they be struck in the first place? Surely not all of them were teaching false doctrines...
And let me rephrase the question: Why is my G-spot located inside my rectum?
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver God is not Zeus someone very good can be struck by lightening and it still be part of Gods plan and purpose for that person. Maybe Gen. Jackson in the civil war sums up the question of providence best when he said "I know that God has destined the day I die and nothing I can do will change that day" he simply accepted the fact that he was going to die. Bad things happen as a result of Adams sin so we simply accept that bad things will happen to people. The-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
Bible tells us that mans chief end is glorify God and enjoy him forever. When someone dies then their life has served its purpose. When bad things happen then they happen and God has planned it so who are we to say against the deity and Creator who could have just killed us all from the start. This question is like saying"why do people die" as a consequence of Adams sin that is why. God also tells us to be wise and use common sense. I have heard one story where after a church had been burned by-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-moslims the guy who did it later came back to the site to find the people praying in the ashes he later became a Christian. As to your second question all I have to say is God made us and honestly that is the weirdest question I have ever heard.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver BTW Prove God does not exist. You can't say that he doesn't exist cause there is no evidence because that doesn't proves he doesn't exist just says there isn't evidence which there is. So go ahead and prove he doesn't exist.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer That's like me asking you to prove unicorns don't exist. It's a fallacious approach at best. Prove to me that unicorns don't exist! Just because there is no evidence proving their existence doesn't mean they dont exist.
The bad thing about your logic is that you are using The Bible to validate The Bible, which is just an intellectually flacid approach.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver What with an Atheists logic though? Unable to prove that god doesn't exist they resort to things such as simply saying "Its impossible!" without considering the possibility if you can't prove it isn't there then how can you say it doesn't just because you think it is impossible. Whats wrong with that? He gives us His word why does that not validate His existence? The problem with your logic is saying that God doesn't exist yet you can't prove it. Unicorns might have existed just-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
is no proof against it. We might find fossils of one or there might not be any left that have not been destroyed!Who knows maybe Russia destroyed the last ones accidentally in a nuclear blast!Or I could say that maybe there is evidence that God does exist he has given us his word the things he wants us to know and do. Why can't that be accepted as evidence?Maybe simply how much countries seem to prosper when they turn to God, such as this country whose founding fathers believed in God.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
Why isn't there a thing inside any of your comments that doesn't refer to something sexual? Also I think Aitheism has worked out well for the world to! I recently was sent a link to a list of Biblical atrocities. Many of these horrible things were punishment for thing those people had done such as the Egyptians keeping the Hebrews in slavery .But none could compare to a man named STALIN He committed horrible crimes as did the atheistic Communists before him as a result of Atheism in North Korea-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-An underground church was found while road work was being done all the people inside were laid out on the pavement and rolled over by the steam roller they were using to pave the road. This is what atheism has brought about (the creator communism was an atheist) and the french revolution! It all sounds so nice doesn't it so reasonable to huh? Honestly which BELIEF is better when you look at it.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Too many random points and poorly worded sentences for me to make a concise response. Let's try covering this one point at a time.
How do you know that The Bible is irrefutable truth? Because it says so in The Bible, of course!
Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works... Not.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver Hold on for a moment though. How do you know with all your science that those tests the scientific method in general works? How do you know that there is a computer in front of you? Well you see it don't you! But Many things you see are wrong such as all the optical illusions in the world so you can't trust your sight.But the you feel it to. Well many people can feel something yet it not be there and more have lost there sense of touch. This could keep going on and on around and-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer If you're asking me how I can choose science over religion, I can sum it up in one sentence... Science will fly you to space, religion will fly you into a building.
If you're asking me which religion is best, well, that's completely subjective. I'd say just about any Eastern religion trumps Christianity. As for the 'good' that has been done by Christianity in comparison to other religions... Yeah... Don't get me started on that.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver Christianity has not done so many bad things as running planes into the World Trade Center! Many will say the inquisitions, crusades, Salem witch trials. But the Bible says to do none of these things so these Christians were doing them without the authority to do so. The inquisitions were definitely NOT justified as many of the people were fine people such as Hus who was burned because some Catholics were afraid of losing power.The Crusades?Well there weren't jihading moslims in-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-Europe because of them! Ok so what is the good of flying to space? YOUR NEXT EXAMPLE IS HORRIBLE!
I have a hunch that is referring to the world trade center...As we come upon that fateful day again I would like to make that an example of what other religions have done. Of exactly what the crusades were trying to stop. I saw those people jumping from those buildings. And ever since I have just hated the idea of islam as the religion of "peace" as atheist North Koreans kill Christians and hitler-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-killed millions of people(something your not told is that not all of them were Jews but some Christians)in concentration camps in the name of science making people carry rocks from one end two the other of the camp until they died and more in that name of science which I care not to mention. Just about any thing trumps Christianity ? I don't think so.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
and around. I have said before that if I were to do something like clean your house and leave a note saying I did it wouldn't you naturally suspect I did it? Well not only does it say this is what the Creator of the universe is saying to you but so many things seem to match up with its account of creation and more. For example for hundreds of years no one knew of the Hittites and the Bible mentioned them people thought it was a fairy tail then...Why we dig up the remains of their empire!-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-it is not like the Bible hasn't been right A LOT OF TIMES.Oh about those poorly worded sentences not all of them are impossible to understand.I think that the one about steamrollers going over people in the name of communism which was invented by atheism was pretty understandable.Forgive the bad sentence structure It was late at night and I had already posted a few comments elsewhere in other debates.Please answer my question, which one is better when you look at what they have done for people.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Look, I know that you were probably indoctrinated at a VERY young age. And I'm not looking to rip on your religion or whatever. The point I'm trying to get across is: religiously fueled views rarely, if ever, come from a place of logic. Being devoutly religious often means doing so at the expense of intellectual honesty, and at times, common sense.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaverLook yourself man!How would you know I was "indoctrinated" my parents taught me and I listened then when i got older I looked up the fact and learned more on my own I decided they were right. If your going to say that I will say you were probably indoctrinated to believe in the theory of evolution! Ok then what about the american revolution?We got through that war because of our united belief in liberty and freedom this idea stemmed from many peoples belief in God!John Adams said-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."Really!Honesty!Common Sense!In God We Trust! Is our national motto and our national anthem has it in it.And you can't say our founding fathers didn't have Common Sense.Such as Patrick Henry!And if Jefferson was a deist why would he say Indeed"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever"So has religion done a lot of good?
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Umm, again, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure our national anthem doesn't have lyrics about gods or religion. And "under god" wasn't added to our Pledge Of Allegiance until the 1950's.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law." - Thomas Jefferson
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect." - James Madison
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) The Christian church has killed off entire cultures with their self-righteous attrition. Many of the pagan tribes and colonies in Europe were completely wiped out, or were forced to convert under threat of execution, as were the different tribes of the Nican Tlaca empire in North and South America. Alot of nordic tribes weren't even given the chance to convert, entire villiages were massacred and burned to the ground.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Western religions (like Islam and Christianity) have caused more violence and death than every disease since the dawn of civilization.
(By the way, there's no such thing as a "moslim." Just thought I'd put that out there.)
People have used religion to justify crimes against humanity since its inception. It continues to ostracize people, supress intellectual growth, and subjugate people to this very day. I fail to see how it is a good thing.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) To further clarify. I said that any EASTERN religion trumps Christianity (Judaism and Islam by extension). There were never any mass genocides in the name of Hindu, Dao, or Buddhist gods.
Hitler was delusional enough to think his race was divinely ordained to rule. He used that as justification to carry out genocide and crimes against humanity. Attributing atheism as the sole cause of The Holocaust or the massacres in Korea is intellectual dishonesty.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver What about Stalin though? And I wonder what those Nordic tribes had done first to make them so angry at them. And those African tribes? Really! Those people sold their own people to Europeans for slavery!. And don't you dare go linking islam with Christianity that is sort of crazy compared to what the "muslims" have done and what their quran teaches, when compared to how much good Christianity has done. E.G. This year was one of the worst for tornadoes in america.-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
- A lot of people lost their home and some family members. Now in the midst of all this MANY churches were helping to restore what was lost. i have relatives who live in an area that got hit by a tornado as soon as it happened their church donated money to buy food, clothes, equipment, and other things that would be needed to rebuild. My family donated money to another family who lost their house father and many of them were injured. About those other religions, have you looked up how cruel-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-their gods are supposed to be? Hinduism is why India is in the shape its in. People starving in the streets! Also hindus believe the world is just going to keep getting destroyed and that you have to be good to get out of your caste limiting your freedoms so much that life itself is slavery. AND I said that if it weren't for atheism communism would not exist so therefore no Hitler, Stalin,or Kim Jong-il.You can't deny that! So if he used that as justification and so makes atheism not at fault-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-then how does people saying they are doing it in the name of religion make religion the problem? They would do it anyway and probably under a different name. It was practically speaking the main cause. So intellectual dis honesty eh? Ever heard Reagan's joke about how many potatoes there were in Russia? If evolution were true then one race in some sense would be higher than the other. So there you see that atheism was at the root of the problem with Hitler. The fact remains that atheism caused-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
communism and that has caused 100,000,000 men, women, and children's death along with 30,000,000 of the communist countries subjects killed in wars. Thousands of people have died in pagan religions such as the aztecs Have you looked up how many deaths there have been from disease there has been since-oh you said there was a dawn of time? Where did time come from?Those people who killed so many people can call themselves Christians but are being hypocritical because the Bible says"you shall not-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Again, too many straw-man arguments for me to even bother. Christian doctrines are contrived from INTERPRETATIONS of The Bible. Hence the justification of slaughtering pagan tribes. There is no way to definitively say that your interpretation is correct or incorrect.
And America is not a Christian nation, whether you accept it or not.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) As it stands, all Western religions ostracise people, supress intellectualism, and subvert otherwise healthy societies. All religions and superstitions are destructive by their very nature, but Western religions have the worst track record. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are ALL Western religions and have VERY similar doctrines. They serve the same purpose: to control and supress intellectual growth under the guise of 'morality.'
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer (continued) Young Earth Creationism, "Intelligent Design," "American (Christian) values," the notion of demons and angels, the notion of "sin," the notion of "divinity"... All forms of intellectual dishonesty and outright willful ignorance. Christianity adapts to the times, and so the lunacy of their dogma has to change to accomodate an increasingly reason-based world.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver Straw-man arguments you say I make while you ignore one thing I say and simply slander others. So do you accept that communism was the fault of atheism that that was the basis on which it was founded on? Western Religion? So you are not just speaking of Christianity alone are you? That defeats the point of your argument! Yes I will say that they do have similar doctrines but are not the same thing at all. In fact I would expect them to be alike considering-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Atheism doesn't equate to communism any more than Christianity equates to capitalism. That is your straw man right there.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Deuteronomy 13:6-10
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him....
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer
...9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Yup, sounds pretty peaceful to me.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Oh, and as for Christians always being opposed to killing children:
Deuteronomy 21:18-21...
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer ...20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
...Yup, they would NEVER advocate harming a child.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
-that Islam simply copied Christianity in many ways ,but definitely not all ways since they went through all the middle east and burning and converting by the sword. There i no were in the Bible it tells Christians to kill except in the defense of ones self ,but the quran tells muslims to kill Christians and infidels. What of atheism though? It has done horrible deeds! What about abortion? Its ideas where founded in atheism and millions of babies where killed like the one described by Ron Paul-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-.The reason I say that it was founded in atheism is that Christians have always opposed killing children. Back in the days of the Romans they would put their babies where the dogs would eat them. Christians would often come here and sneak away with the children.The average number of children killed each year by abortion is 46,000,000. So this is the "morality" that is naturally there and what atheists think we should follow and set up as law?And don't say I set up a straw man look up the facts-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-I have looked up what you say to see if you were right you do the same. Lastly I will say that no, America is not a Christian-CONTINENT (lol) No the USA is not a Christian country, not anymore. Funny though how stubborn you are saying "And America is not a Christian nation, whether you accept it or not." Even if i were to give you the facts you would simply refuse them. You won't except that Christianity in and of itself has not done that much wrong. You have to tie it with western religion t-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-o make it so horrible which it isn't. Atheism keeps the mind within the idea that there is no God I would think this suppresses the mind just as much. You never answered me on homosexuality either. The people of Paris put up a statue during the revolution. Do you know what her name was?
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer What didn't I answer on the subject of homosexuality? YOU never answered MY initial question: Why is my G-spot located up my rectum?
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer And for the record, militant atheism IS just as irrational as any religion. It too advocates a narrow world view. I'm simply saying that all religions are forms of subjugation. I'm not championing atheism, as you seem to assume. That's the problem with religioous zealots and militant atheists; it's all about assumtions.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
Reason...I think was her name.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-murder " I mean seriously and you say these people were actually Christians and believed it was right? Of course there was a reason the Catholic church kept the Bible in Latin (maybe cause they wanted to twist it to fit there needs). Its an honorable thing to help the poor, sick, and lame. Liberty as well is taught in the Bible. The way history has been twisted is horrible but if you look at the declaration it says where our rights come from. Ever heard God Bless America!?
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
But what of AIDS funny that such a disease should exist and we find out about it now when the Bible says homosexuality causes disease a long time ago.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Cite a verse that says homosexuality causes disease. I'd be very interested to see it.
TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
@TheRealCadaver 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans 1:26-27
"receiving in themselves that recompense" Sounds like disease to me!
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit So sorry dude just realized my sister didn't sign out of her account when using my computer that was actually me btw then prove with fact that he doesn't exist. There is no evidence doesn't prove it didn't happen! I could do something leave no evidence but a note saying I did it couldn't I? Besides there is proof such as already given the magnificence of this world! Really with that argument I could say that you don't exist since I don't have evidence, you could be a computer!
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-those supposed contradictions and atrocities I could show them wrong and I will admit a couple of them really tested me I wondered about it then looked a little more and found an answer! When you or I sit in a chair we have faith that the chair will hold us up not knowledge of it until we sit in the chair. I have tried reasoning there is the proof but if you won't accept it then, your loss. You have now resorted to harsh words as your name says a lot of BS so I find no more importance to this.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit No-Proof! Are you kidding me what have I been doing all this time!?! I am just plain sick of debating facts you won't accept. Atheists are broken records and trust me I have gone through many. You know nothing of science! You know nothing of science! Or put your God under that scrutiny you do us! Or put your God under that scrutiny you do us! What you don't get is that I do! I once said that and my answer! Oh yhen you should have left your belief. I had my bible open as I read-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
Moronic politics right there.
Steelfossil 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit It seems that something has happened you with as has happened with almost all my debates...Well if you have resorted to just saying YOUR WRONG YOUR WRONG YOUR WRONG. Then I see no point in debating any longer. You might catch me on that site you sent the link for. I said before atheists provide a challenge and that site is full of them so I just can't wait! My mind is a fortress with gates open to the truth but I know fake truth when I see it.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
But there has never been any scientific proof prove there never was or is.And yet the sheer complexity of the world would indicate that somebody did something not just spin the invisible wheel for years and years but instead there was a master creator.True there have been some changes in animals through out the years but monkeys have not turned into men before.Provable with what that there was no supernatural intervention. Provable with your senses!Men lose those senses so what proof is that?
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
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unite4peaceonearth 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit So evidence it is what I have stuck to this whole time. You say that yet cannot prove it? God doesn't tell people things any more there is no need for prophets because we have the Bible. So that client would be lying I have given you proof yet you seem to refuse it constantly. I looked at that site you showed me all I saw was someone trying to prove their point by convincing people that god is murderous, treacherous psychopath but not putting up all the evidence.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
What's the deal with the applause at the beginning and ending of thus video being muted...WTF?
unite4peaceonearth 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit According to his standards we all for our sins deserve death so really he could kill us all and still be just in his decision for killing rebels.
royxriza4ever 6 months ago
The church has handed off their responsabilities to the government. We need to keep god in the center of our lives !!
truthingod5 6 months ago
And in that place of God you are simply his creation. When i play with my Lego toy and it doesn't do what I want it to then what do I do with it? Take it apart and build something better yet when God made us he knew we would do everything wrong yet instead of just wiping us out he has done what he did and has every right to since he is God.There have been countless times that the women and children have been killed in war I would think a God would have just as much right to do it as others have.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit I would absolutely love to go on through every one of these and more but there isn't enough room in the YouTube comment. I will say this If you think that if God existed would he be worthy of that praise well lets see He would then have 1Created you 2Allowed you a rebellious person to live for a certain time(the punishment for this is normally death by our standards)3Sent his son to die in many peoples place. Understand he is worthy of anything as a supreme Creator and deity.-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit What about starting with what you know and fitting the Bible and what it teaches into that like a wall with out a corner stone the Bible can be that cornerstone.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Really we know better today? Why is there nuclear threats? People who still believe in Wicca?Or fortune tellers?I really don't see any difference in knowing better than 3000yrs ago. I don't just say God did it but prove he did. Go to answers in Genesis .com and look up carbon dating and Bacteria found in T-rex bone.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit So that also is just a theory.. And Why not 6,000 yrs or maybe 8,000. Even with most catastrophes you can think up the population of the earth would be huge if man really was around 10,000-30,000+ yrs There would be an enormous amount of people here.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Pasteur did many things to prove evolutionist of his day wrong he fought for what he believed in and I think that research probably saved my life or one of the members of my family. (A bat encounter) Uh dude please honestly I don't think that would work and you don't have to call what I believe crap just as I haven't called your belief the same. It's also clearly stated not to be a cure. Rather, it's celebrating and thanking God when someone appears to be cured.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit The truth in science yes but not the truth of science. I trust in the Lord to guide me in my decisions but that doesn't mean I don't look up the facts about some one or some thing. Fact... something always said but almost never proven.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
America did not “screw up” in Iraq. The carnage and insanity that we have seen, was the plan from the start.
That thing he saw as an intern of dropping a newborn infant into a bucket of water in a hospital ward? That is called Capital First Degree Murder.
centurion180ad 6 months ago
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TheRealCadaver 6 months ago
…and all of this when Walter Reed Army Medical Center has been shut down. Let us review that, shall we? America is at the height of this unlawful War OF Terror with respect to damage to her troops, yet the bankers are forcing the primary Army hospital system to be shut down and consolidated.
centurion180ad 6 months ago
WHy is it muted when the people are cheering at the beginning and the end?
procack1 6 months ago
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dimensionsiemens 6 months ago
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 6 months ago
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MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit
I actually do intend on becoming a lawyer or common wealth attorney. Possibly if I am successful then to go on with ambitions such as Ron Paul has. I do keep it open but only for what is true. And there are many lies out there. Well I for one can't quite keep this up since my Mom and Dad think it would be best to be off the comp and be more at my school. :)
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshitI have and it isn't a pretty world.Then why don't people in the name of "science" do this manipulation.It doesn't work.But those cells are alive aren't they?Besides most abortions take place after 21 days which is when there is a beating heart Who?We?Opening my mind and accepting things which don't make sense?I am not waking up to anything I know the world is a bad place and its no surprise to me what goes on in it.My mind is a fortress with open gates for truth alone to come in
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
He told the Hebrews to kill all amalikites because they were killing the children and old men and women at the rear of the army innocents. Killing children hhmmm kinda remind you of something doesn't it.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Are you crazy? I read my bible every day and it does not say to do this! it gives a biblical definition of slavery which is much like being an indentured servant. You are a slave to someone if they are in debt. Indeed they could have done bad I thought of that but we don't know about what good or bad they WOULD HAVE DONE they are innocent its not there fault they came into existence. Besides if you don't want the baby you can you can give he/she up for adoption. Murder is wrong.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Sorry I meant if you are in debt to them.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Those walls stand strong they are my ideas and opinions what I have found to be true and they do not break without the truth to do so. That truth I have not found in evolution and all the worlds idea of "science". Think of men such as Isaac Newton and their science the successes they have made if you think that the world can't make sense with God then how foolish are you? The scientific method proves evolution wrong as you cannot observe test and repeat evolution.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshitDid those scientist of evolution really help me?And is it really a mind block.If I have one what about you so bent upon your theorys you won't consider the fact that to be scientific it has to be observable testable and repeatable.And you can't do that with evolution.I consider more than just what is known by others as science and it makes sense.Did he really help me that much compared to people who did not believe in evolution?Alexander Fleming,Florence Nightingale,Louis Pasteur
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit There is the explanation of sin. which changed the world we disobeyed and are punished that is why bad things happen the first human sinned and all suffer from it. Those scientists estimate these things they don't know for sure of them. I have no doubt the universe is vast but even so how did those animals living on the stromatolites (which are rocks) survive they would have been killed by ultra violet light. our atmosphere would be like that of Venus or Mars.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshitIts not factual and I do look up the things I say.There is no missing link.That overwhelming majority doesn't matter if they are following a false theory.Many things which were dated to be so many years old they shouldn't have radiocarbon in them were found to have it.And did you hear about the red blood cells(or bacteria)found in a T-rex bone?Proving the bone could not have been as old as the tests said it was! Those words are often used together and connected in studies often.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Then why are we not evolving today! Where is the missing link! And you notice there is a similarity between us and chimps I did not say that wasn't there and if it was so close that there is hardly no different why aren't chimps building cars. It just doesn't make sense that we as complex as we are and this world and universe that it could all come about by chance. And that in the time period we were developing that we all weren't wiped out by something.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@digitalbullshit Why did she have sex in the first place. And if she got raped well things happen its not the baby's fault and he/she cannot help themselves. i mean abuse of sex has caused hardships throughout the country. My Dad is a lawyer and I go and watch his cases many times and would like to go more. Many of the custody cases I hear about (you can't go and watch these start with someone having sex then not caring about the consequences. But if its not alive it will be!
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
Go to every Ron Paul video and hit the like button. If you have a facebook account, put Ron Paul videos on your status updates daily. The media wants to ignore him but the people will elect him if we work as hard as he does!
4thechozen 6 months ago
I love Ron Paul. The only candidate who makes "logical sense". The only thing is that our system is too far gone, I am afraid, that he would be assassinated before taking office. This time thought, we would all know the truth.and rise up against these elite bankers running the show
lrich65184 6 months ago
The media keep saying, "Ron Paul can't get elected because all he can do is get people to vote for him". They imply that getting votes is secondary to the real purpose of politics, to get big money to back you. This is wrong. Further, they dismiss his 2nd place showing as a trick. Well if its such an easy trick why didn't the rest of the candidates do it? Newt, Pawlenty, Rommney, and Perry couldn't get Paul's totals combined. Perhaps "they lack of a REAL organization" should be the story.
kbar8888 6 months ago
The De facto Congress has repeatedly violated their Oaths of Office, fiduciary responsibilities, and in many cases, committed treasonous acts against “We the People” of the united States of America and the world.
mydozer 6 months ago
@Pasithea Abortion is murder at 21 days the baby's heart is beating and then the baby is killed after this has happened. Why do you get angry? Do you care about your rights? What about the child whose heart is beating what about his/her rights? It is murder and is wrong. Would it be a medical decision if a person who just annoyed you an enormous amount but never did wrong you killed for your "health". You are forced to obey the law and that is not torture it is murder to kill innocents.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer If another human being is physically attached to my body against my will and is using my nutrients and causing very serious psychological, physiological, and hormonal changes to my body I have every right to put a stop to those changes. Ending a pregnancy stops those unwanted changes. I don't care about your right to life or anyone else's for that matter. The moment you infringe on my right to bodily autonomy and start using me to physically survive I have the right to say no.
Pasithea 6 months ago
@PasitheaYouforget that baby is also attached to you against his/her will.If you don't care about my rights to life then you have just as good said you would stab I knife through me if I was old and you were paying for my medicare.What if you were that child and your mom decided she just you know didn't want to deal with you so she decided to kill you.You wouldn't like it right?If this is the opinion of most of our country on life no wonder our country is failing.You disregard the soldiers life.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer If my mother had aborted me I clearly would not care because I would not exist to care. If she did not want me at the time I would have preferred she had aborted me anyways. She had every right to do so.
Also medicare is not a system where you physically attach yourself to my body. So that makes absolutely no sense as an analogy. You being on medicare does not affect my bodily autonomy.
How did we get on the subject of soldiers now?
Pasithea 6 months ago
@Pasithea Medicare is where I would pay for your medicine and hospital care. It wouldn't make me physically attach myself to you but would take care of you because the taxes I would be paying would be going to the care of your body. I don't know if you would have thought that if she had done it, and you had missed everything you have done up until now and known you missed it. I said btw that what about the baby attached to you against his/her will? No she or you wouldn't have that right the r-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-ights endowed on us by our creator does not give us the right to kill defenseless innocents because they came into being! That is like saying in court "well your honor he was doing things to me he didn't want to do but he was so I think I had the right to kill him". Our right are clearly laid down before us in the Constitution one of these is life and as Dr.Paul says ALL life. If you don't care about a babies life then why do you care about the soldiers?Same concept different age no difference.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Sorry. Not a God believer here. Also I care about those who have been born. Those who have not yet been born are meaningless to me because until you are born you don't even exist in my opinion, as in you don't even have a soul.
Pasithea 6 months ago
@Pasithea I said before there is a beating heart same thing as being born for one is in the womb and unable to defend itself the other is out in a universe capable of defending itself.A soul A soul?The very statement defies your previous one about God.I don't really care about this discussion anymore. You have said you don't care about the right to life under certain conditions and so support murder.I won't be answering anymore comments as of now for I will not throw my pearls before swine.
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer A cow has a beating heart too and quite frankly more cognitive brain waves than a fetus. Also why can't I believe in the concept of souls without the concept of a deity? There are many different religions and spiritual ideas. I have my own personal spiritual beliefs and their is no god/goddess involved. I will say it again. A woman should always have the right to control her own reproductive organs regardless of what happens to be in them at any point in time.
Pasithea 6 months ago
@Pasithea I mean to say something to you regardless of your gender or beliefs, a child has rights to life according to our constitution and according to our constitution and declaration of our belief and independence only men have these rights. I WILL say this again as well. The child has rights and no way to protect them these are above all things endowed upon him/her by him/hers creator the rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness which upon coming into being are his/her's. This is-
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
-the law of the land the belief which within 200yrs built the strongest most powerful nation in history! Greater than any other ROME CARTHAGE! Eat our dust lest we fall to the dust the same ways they offered their illegitimate babies to moloch and the wolves. Let us remember these and not experiment with change let the test tubes explode and bring us down. Remember this. (BTW I am sorry if you took my meaning in my first comment wrong. When I said men had rights I meant both men and woMEN.)
MrLittlelawyer 6 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer You've completely lost me at this point...but I guess that's what happens when someone diverges so off topic into complete nonsense.
Pasithea 6 months ago
@Pasithea NONSENSE! Oh please I am 14...*face palm* No wonder this country is becoming Carthage reincarnate... this country is made of greedy self centered idiots.Did you know that Carthaginians offered their illegitimate babies to moloch? Then started offering their own because they didn't want to deal with the inconvenience? They fell because other races and cultures overpowered them because of that and their petty squabbles over government. 2010 census? More Hispanics then ever.Not long and-
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
America ain't gonna be around if we don't do something. Europe covered in moslims and all. Throughout this debate or discussion you fail to realize the point. If you or I fail to respect human life at any stage no matter where or what reason the consequences are fatal not just to you or I but to the country we affiliated ourselves with. Its why there is a death penalty people who don't respect life have done the worst pssible and should be punished ultimately. People like you who care about the-
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Ah. So you DON'T really value all human life. If you did truly value human life you would not only be against war but against capital punishment. Sounds like you only value CERTAIN life, under CERTAIN criteria. If they don't fit that criteria then it's ok to kill/murder them. Got it. Hypocrite. Look if you want to live in a society that strips women of their civil rights and rights to control their own bodies Saudi Arabia agrees wholeheartedly with you.
Pasithea 5 months ago
@Pasithea I am NO hypocrite.Get that in you thick skull. You are correct their is in time a point where a person has lost their rights to life. Those times are when as such they in their choices disregarded another rights to their life. MURDER the killing of innocents! DO YOU THINK A RAPIST AND KILLER ARE INNOCENT! I am sick of this worthless argument with someone who doesn't even look at the facts and is now telling me to drop my argument!? Women have there rights and killing an innocent is no-
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer You say you're not a hypocrite and then in the same sentence admit I am right. Well done. If you valued life you would be against the intentional killing of ALL humans to say the least, or even to a further extent all living animals with a heartbeat since that seems to be the criteria you have specifically provided that one must meet to have their life protected under the law. At least be consistent with your beliefs and thought patterns.
Pasithea 5 months ago
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Pasithea 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer There is a huge difference between an entity residing inside my uterus and saving a person falling off a cliff. At least by holding the man up I don't have to worry about some of these major side effects, abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness, pelvic floor disorder, hemmorhoids, loss of dental and bone calcium, dropped (prolapsed) uterus, pre-eclampsia, severe post-partum depression and psychosis, and many, many more. I will gladly send the list if you like.
Pasithea 5 months ago
-t one of them. The right to control their body is among those rights but NOT the body of the child relying upon it. If an old man where about to fall off a cliff and you grabbed hold of his hand and had to hold him there unable to pull him up till help came would you decide since you had control over your body to drop him? I can't stand arguing with idiots. I am no hypocrite murderers don't have the rights to their lives since they forfeited them. Infanticide is the same as abortion since the-
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
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Pasithea 5 months ago
-abortions normally take place after the baby has a beating heart and many other similar characteristics including a brain. Now at last I will say that I am not moving to Saudi Arabia because if you look at my profile it say something about my belief which would cause me to be at risk there or any moslim country. We all have rights endowed on us by our creator men women and all children. They are numbered and are not limitless but by acknowledging them, we are free.
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer At least let me ask you this one question Mr. LL. If a woman were to have her pregnancy terminated do you believe she should be executed under the law for having an abortion or essentially committing murder in your eyes? What is the punishment that should follow for women who willingly have abortions?
Pasithea 5 months ago
@Pasithea If it were outlawed a declared as law that it was illegal and she got an abortion done? Yes. She knowingly committed murder and therefore is punishable by law. Now if the law was not in place she did not knowingly kill only was told and only knew this was a "health" decision.
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Abortion IS healthcare. It directly affects the health of the woman. So much so that women have even DIED in childbirth. In fact there is risk of death and severe damage with EVERY pregnancy. A woman should never be FORCED to endure that risk without her full and ongoing consent. Speaking of which, how would you intend to force women to remain pregnant? With oral abortifacients being so easily available a woman can terminate her pregnancy in the privacy of her own home.
Pasithea 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer So with the knowledge of that, what would you intend for the government to do to enforce the horrible law you wish to enact? Test every menstruating young woman for pregnancy? Lock them away and tie them down if they expressed thoughts to anyone about possibly wanting to abort? How do you enforce it!?
Pasithea 5 months ago
-ir wants and needs and not others are destroying this country. While you would respect your body you wouldn't respect the life of one relying on that body against that ones choice.Just to clarify Hispanics aren't bad its just that they are not the ones who founded the country and many weren't born here and have immigrated for money. I did not diverge I simply said that we will be following Rome and Carthage because of Abortion, Illegal Immigration, and Divorce. Look at history its very scary.
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Once again, you're just talking nonsense. What ARE you talking about? I thought we were discussing abortion but it seems you've mixed a myriad of other irrelevant topics into the conversation.
Pasithea 5 months ago
@Pasithea If you don't know your history you will be an idiot the rest of your life. Do you even know who the Carthaginians were? I am speaking of them and how we emulate them so well. Their actions which caused them to fall. You are talking nonsense. I am not muddying the waters. Infanticide...was practiced in Carthage they burned their children because the were an inconvenience or because they wan'ted good luck from moloch they disregarded those lives because they hadn't "lived" it yet,
MrLittlelawyer 5 months ago
@MrLittlelawyer Lots of people have been killed, murdered, maimed, raped and so on throughout history. But that is totally irrelevant to the topic of abortion which involves the removal of an embryo or fetus from a woman's uterus at her own discretion. Something that is and should remain private between her and her healthcare provider because it is IN FACT something that directly involves her personal health, physically and psychologically.
Pasithea 5 months ago