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  • so.. which one is better???

    TouchSmart tm2 or EliteBook 2570p

  • What a beautiful laptop. Now they just need to add WebOS 3.0 and it will be perfect. Is it a laptop or a tablet?!

  • @pareinai i'd say both

  • My HP Touchsmart is Different WithOut Twitter and many great stuff :(

    But I still love it so far

    tm2-2150us Corei3 <3

  • how do you do the math notes on 0:35 ? I just got this computer for christmas and i want to use it for taking notes at school. please help!!! :/

  • @Alliecake17 You can use Windows Journal. Also if you download maths exam papers as PDF you can open them up in Adobe Reader and print them to Windows Journal meaning you can write on them which is really useful. It's a great laptop.

  • @Alliecake17 Just a question... WHERE. THE HELL. Did you buy it???

    I can't find it anywhere D': !!!!

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  • Warning!! I have a touchsmart and I have had numerous hardware problems. I am now on my second one, as the first one was replaced after being repaired 3 times!! Now HP does not want to take responsibility any longer! Check out my profile for a video describing my problem...

  • Newer i3/i5 version is just released. This is way better than an iPad.

  • @yeomanrycavalry Agreed. And it comes close to what I was hoping for in MS's Courier device... and HP's slate... etc... but this will be better over all. I'm not expecting it to be a total desktop replacement, but for portable it's ideal.

  • I don't care :x It's the best pc I ever had, and I've had some diffrent types.. It has enough CPU for gaming, picture programs, and all. Can be that the battery dosen't last more than 5 hours, and that it's heavier, but I can live with that. The touch function isen't just cool, but usable, and i've never had an pc with 6 cells that last for 5 hours atleast. If the CPU ever get's to little, I'll just send it in, and get it upgraded. Not any worse than that. Never gonna change this, it's the best!

  • It's possible to buy one in europe.. I have tm2 1090, and i live in norway... :o Buyed it from a Norwegian internett store...

  • I WANT THIS!!! But I live in Europe, it seems impossible for me to buy one -___-'

  • @athrun989 I live in the europe too and i bought is on the german hp side. (tm2 2010 eg)

  • @xXJohnneyXx

    Ah chill, do you have a normal keyboard lay-out? Or is the german one different? That's what I heard, but I don't know if it's true

  • @athrun989 Well it*s different. In which country in europe do you live? I think all countrys have a different keyboard lay-out. On the german one z and y is twised and you have ä ü . on the top by the numbers you have ! " § $ % & / ( ) = ? ´. you can search in the i net the german keyboard lay-out. It depends in which country you live.

  • What a lovely machine! I can't wait 'til I get mine :)

  • Oh, and I thought the music was great :P Particularly at the end. I'll admit it's a bit unremarkable for the rest of it.

  • The person responsible for the music should die.

  • good video good animations

  • I'm not buying from intel until they stop trying to be monpoly by bribing companies into using only their processors and not AMD.

  • I don't get whats wrong with you guys my Tx2 only gets hot when its in High Performance mode and I simply just use a cooling fan which keeps it cold. And a Dvd drive is very important if this is your only computer. Hey I wonder if their was ever was any Tm1s :)

  • yea tx2z 1300 is morepowerful only good thing about tm2 is that it has a hdmi port...lol

  • DVD drives really don't matter.

    Buy an external drive (40ish) and rip the .iso off those.

    Mount it under DAEMON TOOLS or MagicDisc.

    Just as good; minus a pound and a half-inch.

    Anyways, I like the CULV processor because of battery life. You can even get a dedicated GPU (Radeon 4550) and play some games (The Sims, WOW, etc.).

    They look awesome. i want one so bad. Will be getting a job just to buy this sucker with max specs.

    If you are somewhat proficient with computers, then this is awesome.

  • I love my Hp touchsmart tx2 1316 au with windows 7 professional.

    it`s awesome. i don`t like tm2 coz it don`t have optical drive and it runs with old intel processor intel core 2 duo while core i7 is avilable.

  • @milessydney core i7 would drive the price up high

    core 2 duo is an OK processor, for daily use

  • man it is still expensive! It has same price as latest Hp Pavilion DV7 notebook.but DV7 using core i7.

  • DV7 has no touch screen

  • omg if i can draw on this thing it whould be awssome but i dout u can sure u can write on it but can u draw

  • @supershard555

    yes u can draw, paint everything on it!

  • hm, I was kinda hoping to get the HP Touchsmart TX2z but now I'm not really sure. ahh What should I do? D: Are there any major differences?

  • @jessicamorales0829 hey yes there are some differences. 1. tx2 run with AMD vision processor , Tm2 with intel core 2duo processor 2. Tx2 has DVD drive Tm2 don`t have.

    3. tm2 has long battery life tx2 has a bit shorter.4.Tx2 procssor is 2.3 GHZ while tm2 is 1.5 GHz processor Rest both are same!So now it`s up to you. I prefer tx2 coz it is faster and it has DVD dual drive!

  • wow thanks i too was kinda wondering what the difference was

    m getting mine next week, i'll get the tx2 cuz i have a little notebook without the dvd drive i need one with the dvd drive so i think tx2 is the 1 for me

  • @labellecongolaise hey thanks for taking good descision good luck to tx2!

  • i thought they stopped making them

  • THAT WAS THE TX2

  • @cannonlb3  no the one that got cancled not this one!lol

  • i wanted to get it so bad!! but not dvd drive?? no way! I am gonna get the dell touch

  • the Dell XT2 touch doesnt have a DVD drive either...

  • i bought a tx2z recently was hoping for pressure sensitivity but i guess instead of resolving the problem with the n trig they just make a another tablet with wacom.

  • I'm a proud owner of tx2500 n I have seen first-hand the performance of tx2-win7, so to all of u that think that d tx2 outperforms tm2 please reconsider because tm2 owns a totally new motherboard n much better high-end parts such as Intel procs, n ati graphics chip, n even with 1.6ghz its a promising new design with hdmi n firewire ports that targets for much better performance than its predecessor sacrificing d already obsolete optical drive in exchange of a thiner sexier look :)

  • I can't help but think that if i don't get dedicated graphics, it'll be hollow at the location in which they would place the graphics card.

    I wish they would have a choice of placing a cd drive in place of that.

    I have the tx2500 and i really want this computer, but I don't understand why it's heavier and Why they have to remove the cd drive.

  • Does this laptop have the penabled wacom Active digitizer screen? or is it pressure sensitive?

  • when is this going to be in stores?

  • @joyousjoy probably 2nd week of February in North America ... most likely USA first then Canada/Mexico and in Europe shortly afterwards. Gives you time to save .. and shop for faster bandwidth cable internet for those movie downloads, ;).

  • Anyone know what the song is in the background?

  • its a good song bro! wish i knew

  • I am a proud owner of tx2 1316 Au with windows 7 professional. The new tm2 looks great but shame tm2 don`t have dvd drive!

    I am glad bought tx2 just before it run out. I hope HP upgrade my software and make me tm2.

  • Well a good thing about this computer is that the Digitizer pen is a Wacom Pen so that means the pen is reconzied by more software and that means more pressure sensitivity.

  • IT IS A WACOM digitizer, the newest one I might add.

  • As a graphic artist/web designer, I was hoping they'd go back to the pressure-sensitive Wacom digitizer, but that bird looks awful rough.

  • Dose anyone know the full specs and and pics of all the ports. I think i saw it has a DVI and VGA. I wonder if it will do 2 monitors with out a dock. 1 built in screen 2 VGA monitor and 3 a DVI screen? Any one got an answer? If you do thanks. I am so glad i didnt buy the tx2

  • It's a great notebook. it doesn't matter if it's only 1.6gh as long as it has good amount of cache on the cpu anything over1gh is enough. Under practical use you won't be able to tell a difference unless you are opening incrediblely heavy applications. Please don't put off this computer just because it has 1.6 ghz cpu. I'm a AMD fan, and i think the amd cpu they used in the previous tx series was great, but I believe they made the change to increase battery life, and keep the computer cooler.

  • I'm a owner of the tx2510us (before the tx2)

    I wish they would've put one of the newer amd neo x2 processors in this laptop, but just because it had an 1.6 gh intel cpu doesn't mean it's slower.

    Trust me they've solve my only issues with the laptop by upgrading to the tm2. less heat, slightly lighter, and now awkward protruding battery.

  • Actually the lowest Ghz which will be on the quick ship models is 1.3hghz and it will cost more then the TX2. I'll sugest this computer to people that don't care much about performance and care more about battery life. I think it was a terrible idea to remove the disc drive. I feel whats the point of having a HDMI if I can't watch my movies in HD with it. If you want more performance get a TX2 if you want more battery life and willing to pay more get a TM2.

  • @Daxter609

    hdmi has nothing to do with movies. its for the screen quality . iam guessing u never seen the difference between VGA and HDMI on a 52'' TV.

  • Uhh dude I have 30" HDMI/VGA TV. Obiviously you didn't read my comment clearly I said "Whats the point of having a HDMI port if I can't use it too watch movies in HD because the disc drive is removed."

  • I never buy movies on discs anymore, they just get scratched and takes up a lot of room. Much better to buy via internet and store everything on an external harddrive or file server.

    So a HDMI port necessary.

  • got WD 500GB Portable Hard Drive and not even half way full.. for the long trips or playing games at family

  • @Daxter609

    lol who watches movies on disc.

    30'' wow dont care talking 42''+ (Hdmi= better resolution dude)

  • @Daxter609 you just download the movies bro.. what are u talking abt?

  • I don't feel like paying money for stuff I already got and I have a hell lot of DVDs of cartoons.

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  • I love HP but hate there tablets. FUJITSU t5010 or T900 tablet laptop with Intel i7 FTW

  • Touchsmart tx2 3.0 is much better than touchsmart tm2. tx2 have 2.4GHZ processor tm2 only 1.6GHZ!

    Tx2 have DVD drive tm2 don`t!

    Go for touchsmart tx2!

  • It's louder it's heavier Its battery does not last up to 9 hrs and the GPU is slower.

  • yeap a brick for less power (ghz)

  • a higher megahertz does not always translate to better performance even within the same company and much less between nuclear melt down AMD and intel

  • read what it says when they show the big hp sign in the end.

  • i just ordered the tx2z last week from there site. wtf!!! now i have to cancel it tomrw and wait to order this. i hear it comes out on da 17th.

  • Still I wish HP had put in at least a Core i3 mobile ... Core i5-430M @ 2.26Ghz up to 2.53Ghz with internal GPU (500-766Mhz) and optional ATi 5880M mobile GPU.

    Better still why HP NOT give us the GeForce chipset they use in the EliteBook 8540P/W lineup?!

    What I DO find odd is that the 2730P business tablet has not been refreshed yet. Add to that, this TM2 has a lower TDW cpu in tow, what will the replacement for the 2730P have?

  • People don't fall for it because it intel proceesor in it its actually slower then the TX2 the TM2 has a 1.6Ghz while the TX2 has 2.0 ghz - 2.4ghz.

  • Less power run time on TX2

    More heat in normal/power mode off power-brick, and much more ON power-brick (TX2)

    issues with GeForce GPU's on previous Tx series, I'm glad HP abandoned AMD, for now.

    AMD needs to step up their mobile cpu game and FAST!

    Going with Intel is much faster than you think.

    better power consumption

    combine the ATi 45xx video card and 512MB dedicated graphics you'll be better off.

    HDMI output.

    but we loose the DVD drive!!

  • @Daxter609: Actually, the TX series uses the super ancient AMD turion processors whereas this TM2 runs on an Intel Core 2 Duo. More specifically, its a CULV processor. But it makes up for that because it runs on ATI GPU and has a capacitive screen. My only gripe is that this doesn't come with a built in DVD drive, you gotta get external :(

  • Only because Turion CPUs (releaed mid 2008 = superancient???) produce more heat and consume more power doesn't make them slower than a (Ultra) Low Voltage CPU.

  • True, but that also makes them useless for a tablet. You want it to run cool and crisp. Also, yes, June 2008 is SUPER ancient when it comes to computers. Either way, it's not how much GHz you have, its how you use them.

  • finally an hp tablet with some serious design, good work hp

  • I am sooo disappointed coz I just bought tx2 1316 Au with windows 7 professional on Christmas!

    so sad now coz won`t be able to buy touchsmart tm2! But it doesn`t have too much difference than tx2 with windows 7!

    only it has 3D! lol

    definately it gonna beat mac`s upcoming touch notebook!

  • FUUUCK I kept telling ,my mom to wait for t\something new to come out and I got a TX2 recently for christmas. Well if theirs better software and stuff on it I might hold a gun to my head. Well its better then nothing if they do have better software lets hope HP make its avialible for us Windows 7 TX2 users. I'm kinda glad I don't have the design looks really dull unlike the TX2 and TX

  • I'll bet the OpenGL2.0, better battery life to USE the laptop for, and faster HDD bumps up the Windows 7 specs and performance overall than the TX2 ... at least i'm HOPING it does, at least significantly enough without the ATi card, and more so with it.

  • Jan 17th is the date. I also was waiting for TM2. Will buy this one soon....

  • just got the frikkin tx2 for christmas and now they come out with this i 4 sure aint gonna b able to get it uggghh this makes me mad }:(

  • lol i was supposed to get the tx2 for my birthday, but then moved to xmas (2 months later). and i still didn't get it xmas because it wasn't in stores and my dad wants me to try it before i buy it. now i told my dad about this and we plan to get this once it comes out in stores. i was tired of the wait but now i realize it paid off. i see how i would have felt if i got this in december.

  • I wanna buy this soo bad !

  • i was going to buy the tx2z as an auto gift for myself this Christmas but i knew they were going to release a new one this year, cant wait ima get it the same day the same day that it pops out in the store

  • Cant wait to see it in stores! Looks Cool!

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