It would be very nice if we could enjoy the singing of Tucker without having to read the lies, threats, etc., of Baritanist! On his singing(?) of the 'star spangled banner' it was posted by a viewer that Baritanist = Mr. Cafiero and God knows how many more screen names. His new found love for the Tucker voice is merely a device to enable him to troll. In the past he commented to me that Giuseppe Giacomini was a better tenor than Tucker Giacomini wasn't as good as Kurt Baum was by a long shot.
@gaytenor Now you better stop smudging my identity. I have saved EVERY SINGLE of your hateful, antisemitic nazi postings, your despicable comments about my singing and received quite a few PRIVATE ones forwarded by others who you believe are your friends. LOL People who live in glasshouses... I hope you know the rest. Baum was a great tenor, don't use him to flame Giacomini.
@Baritanist Where the hell do you get off threatening other users asshole? As to glasshouses I'm not the one who posts noises that sound for all the world like the death throes of a rabid dog. Its a constant theme with you 'monster baritone,' 'Mr. Cafiero,' etc. you have been caught and your worthless name published Mr. Jeremy Silver. You are one of the worst insults to music and opera on the internet and that is saying a lot slimeball.
@TsarBovov The so called singing that the demented moron posted is not me! I fully plan to file a complaint against him for his conduct. Try his so-called Nessun Dorma abortion it is without doubt the same ghastly voice used to promote the charlatan Stanley. I would never willing post anything that godawful and Baritanist does it with disgusting regularity. That disgusting moron even claims that Tucker had a tremolo in this performance. By the way piss off!!!!!!!!!!!
@signorinissimo Admitting that Baritanist = Cafiero ! That probably ruined your day. Since you are the one that posted the nonsense YOU KNOW IT ISN'T ME. The sound of that godwful noise is about the same as the ghastly recording of the awful Nessun Dorma. Running the two through a voice recognition program would prove that they were made by the same voice. Unlike Baritanist I have pride and I would never even think of recording something with that bad a sound.How many screen names do you have?
@signorinissimo Admitting that Baritanist = Cafiero ! That probably ruined your day. Since you are the one that posted the nonsense YOU KNOW IT ISN'T ME. The sound of that godwful noise is about the same as the ghastly recording of the awful Nessun Dorma. Running the two through a voice recognition program would prove that they were made by the same voice. Unlike Baritanist I have pride and I would never even think of recording something with that bad a sound.How many screen names do you have?
@Baritanist If you cannot stand the heat Jeremy get out of the kitchen. Your singing is worst than the worst of Olive Middleton and Florence Foster Jenkins. Your so called singing is even worse than the howling of Signor Gomez. You would have to ask my Jewish friends if they think I'm antisemitic especially a distinguished cantor that helped me research a question. Your the tone deaf fool who said that Giacomini was better than Tucker not me putz!! OY VEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@snedsted Actually according to Peerce "swore to me that Toscanini asked him to do the Brdcst." but he he turned Toscanini down knowing it was not a good role for him. Toscanini did prefer Tucker to Bjorling for Radamas who he had considered. RT said he would sing the Brdcst. and in 1955 recorded it but said many times he would not sing it on stage till later in his career and he waited till 1965 in his early 50's. He was excellent then with Nilsson and later with Price in 66 plus others.
On stage live Bergonzi was not nearly as good in the role as RT later, much smaller, not as stentorian as Tucker's. Recordings are one thing and live is another. Bjorling made a fine recording of it with Zinka but live when he finally sang it in a big house in 58' Chicago, the reviews where mediocre for his less stentorian powerful voice. He had better success with it early in smaller European houses. Bergonzi fared well singing it at the met. but Tucker, MDM and Corelli really fit the role.
@SHICOFF1 Bergonzi was very, very intelligent in his approach to Radames concentrating on the lyrical moments in the score, but the concertato was problematic to say the least as was the scene of consecration in act one. Tucker's more stentorian tones were awesome in those scenes.
The 1949 Aida is one of Toscaninis best opera concertante. You could have feared that Jan Peerce would have been chosen to sing the Radames part. But fortunately Toscanini asked Tucker to sing the part, which he does very fine. He also sang Radames opposite Callas in a commercial recording later, and the two recordings show, that Tucker is one of the best Radames-interpretator in 20 century. The only Radames I find better is Bergonzi in the 1959-recording under Karajan.
@snedsted1 Peerce knew that Radames would have required him to force to be effective so he passed on the role. How could you fear that Peerce would be selected 62 years after the fact? As SHICOFF1 has pointed out Bergonzi was not an ideal Radames when compared with more robust ringing voices like Tucker or Del Monaco. Your cheap shot at Peerce was tasteless!
@Baritanist Well they finally let you out of the HA HA HOUSE? I'm not lying you demented slime ball. Tucker never studied with that charlatan Stanley!!!! His only singing instruction was from Paul Althouse. And as for the value of Stanley's method listen to the noise that you have the gall to post you tone deaf fraud!! I quite honestly have heard more melodious sounds out of a cat in heat!!! Go take your meds you hopeless totally insane troller.
@Baritanist First place where did you get your numbers you moron? You insult and injure the hearing of anyone curious enough to play your 'singing' to further your lunatic claims that you know how Tucker, Peerce, sang forgetting two important points:
1. Their careers were based on having great voices and totally secure singing methods that owe not one damn thing to that charlatan Stanley. 2. You claim--hahahaha--that Stanley saved Tucker from a vocal crisis that never happened.
@gaytenor Youtube has statistics, I am surprised that a troll of your calibre does not know about that. Don't feel too safe buddy. Now about your points: 1. rubbish; 2. rubbish. Tucker STUDIED with Stanley. Stanley SAVED Tucker after he had a vocal crisis and could not hit the high C anymore. This is FACT. You are an ignorant, old bitter man who cannot listen. The only charlatan here is YOU.
@Baritanist I know about the stats asshole! Try 3,333 views if its any of your business. Tucker studied with Stanley like you have a tape of my singing. I KNOW WITH TOTAL CERTITUDE THAT TUCKER DIDN"T HAVE SAID CRISIS, THAT HE NEVER STUDIED WITH STANLEY DO YOU THINK HE WANTED TO SOUND LIKE YOU PUTZ? As for tapes of my singing play them because they do not exist. I would like to see you try to carry out your threats you demented moron! OY VEH WHAT A PUTZ!!!!!!!
@gaytenor OK, I will post your "singing" as an example for my students of how not to treat the voice. I will let you know, cherie. LOL.
And you know nothing about Tucker. You are just one great CHARLATAN who keep repeating the same lies over and over again. LOL. They won't become true just because of that. You are PATHETIC.
@Baritanist : You give away who you are dearie on that dreadful insult to our national anthem that you recorded and remember that a threat is sort of a violation even on youtube. I have friends who knew Tucker and I met him several times. As for your devout love of Tucker you once told me in a comment that that godawful screamer Giacomini was a better tenor than Tucker. I know your a lying sack of shit who should be removed at once from youtube even before you go to the ha ha house.
@gaytenor LOL When did I tell you that Giacomini was better than Tucker? Where? Stop your lying. And what threat are you talking about? If you consider your voice a threat to the public's ears, I totally agree. So, better don't sing, don't talk and don't post. Just be quiet and take your drugs.
@Baritanist ucker owed his career to A God given voice, hard work, and Paul Althouse not that sham Stanley. Do you honestly think that anyone believes the goddamn nonsense you post and Tucker NEVER PRODUCED TONES LIKE THE DREADFUL TAPE RECORDER BLEATS THAT YOU CALL SINGING. Your singing is less musical than the fart scene in Blazing Saddles. Get a life!!!
@Baritanist YOU GODDAMN DEMENTED FRAUD TUCKER NEVER WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT FRAUD STANLEY. YOU ARE EITHER THE BIGGEST NUT ON YOUTUBE OR THE BIGGEST CHARLATAN SINCE THAT KING OF CHARLATANS STANLEY. YOU SEEM TO HAVE INCREASED YOUR LISTING TO INCLUDE JAN PEERCE AND LIKE TUCKER HE WAS WAY TOO SMART FOR YOUR BULLSHIT. JUST ASK YOUR DOCTOR TO INCREASE YOUR MEDS IT MIGHT HELP YOU COPE WITH WHAT A WASTE OF LIFE YOU ARE. STANLEY RUINED MORE VOICES THAN ANY OTHER CHARLATAN. YOUR SINGING IS PURE SHIT.
@gaytenor ROFL I am a professional singer and so were Stanley and Tucker. I have heard your tapes and you are SHIT pal. You are the biggest troll here on YT.
@Baritanist Do you specialize in lease breaking? Your singing(?) is a pain in the ears. Stanley was not a professional singer he was a voice destroyer.Neither Peerce nor Tucker ever studied for one minute with Stanley or any of the other charlatans that claim to teach his method(what a joke hahahaha). As for my singing please produce my singing so I can sue your ass off for libel. Give it up if you were any good as a singing teacher you wouldn't need to beg for students like you do.
@ premiere opera How can I angrily shout on print? I am angry when I write because some JB Fans make JB a God and troll RT. They are more fanatical then all the Corelli fans fans put together. I am and was a Jussi fan long ago, in Dan Shea the past pres. of the JBS society is a friend of mine and Cantor Don Goldberg a huge fan. I was in JBS for years and was in the home of Anders Bjorling, JB's son and daughter in law some years ago. I never flame JB on his sites as the RT trolls do.
@premiere opera I talk to Henry that often myself, as far as Jussi I have said on his sites you cannot compare him to RT asJB was a lyric spinto tenor basically, not a spinto. You have said you heard him in the late 50's a few times and he was drowned out in Cav. by Simionato when they sang together at the met. You said also on opera L that you had trouble hearing JB like with Morell . I heard JB in 1958 and am older than you and his voice sounded smaller then on rec. but it did carry .
I do not monitor my posts because most of the posts with the offending comments are not from anything I posted. They have been the same for years. Always angrily shouting at anybody who dares say another tenor (such as Bjoerling) is as good or better than Tucker. This starts the "out of control" stuff. If you want to have contests, I speak to Barry four or five times weekly, and David a bit less often. Tucker doesn't need the overt and sometimes nasty defense. His singing speaks for itself.
@VINYLTOVIDEO THANKS FOR DEFENDING ME AND THANKS TO GAY TENOR AND ELVIRA1003 YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT TUCKER BUT PREMIERE OPERA HAS A HARD ON AGAINST ME FOR NO GOOD REASON AND I HAVE NEVER EVER HURT TUCKER IN ANYWAY.
@premiereopera1 I don't see anything wrong with Shicoff1's defense of Tucker. Other commenters defend him more forcefully. Obviously Shicoff1 is a big fan but what's wrong with that?
@PREMIERE OPERA Look Ed why not attack anyone who fights or trolls against Tucker yet you only attack me and my comments are no stronger than anyone else who likes RT. If I was doing him harm than why would the Tucker's be my friend? I talk to Henry 4 times a week or more and have known him for 38 years. If I did RT harm they would tell me as Henry reads the posts I send him. However you have caused me to never defend Tucker again and the family can thank you or be angry at you for that.
If my posts defending Tucker bother you premiere opera than since you have the power to remove them instead of calling me names just do it. Just remove all my posts about Tucker and also how about all the posts flaming him that you insist on leaving so as not to insult anyone.
It is also a shame that the genius premiere opera a supposed fan of tucker does not defend him compared to myself or gay tenor or Vinyl. This man is an egotist as I have defended RT against false attacks where as this person leaves nasty posts about him on his sites. A few of us have defended him. Calling me an idiot matters not.
What a damn shame that virtually every Tucker post on Youtube has to be soiled by the idiotic and hotheaded Shicoff. He seems to think his rantings are helping or defending Tucker, when the truth is just the opposite. This has been going on for years. Only the screen names change, but it is the same individual. Basta already! Tucker did not deserve this at all.
@premiereopera1 Tucker gets trolled more than anyone. SHICOFF1 is just reacting to the trollers lies. This would not happen if you were more careful in the way you monitored the comments posted. We, unlike you, do not have to worry about losing a sale so we have the liberty of answering the unsupported vicious lies that trolls like 'wiseoldfart' and 'afroPoli' insert. Really Ed if you have a problem with SHICOFF1 why not a private message. With a friend like you Tucker's memory is ill-served.
@premiereopera1 The only shame is that every Tucker post is spoiled with malicious comments smearing him. Why shouldn't SHICOFF1 defend Tucker and better yet why don't you ever defend him if he is, according to your own comments, your favorite tenor? You are truly a nut case, Ed, and having previously dealt with you know you're a deadbeat crook and that your opinion is of zero consequence.
@VinylToVideo Well said my friend!!! Some posters at least take the disgusting stuff off but, of course, they do not have business interests to consider. We can be thankful that Myto now features quite a few of Tucker's best performances since they are well made and well documented, and SONY now has a series of well made reissues.
@GAYTENOR Mrs. Caruso was married about 3 years when he died but I have never read her book in favor of Ybarra. A great man of opera died yesterday but not a singer except when he was at Harvard. Andy Karzas of station WFMT Chicago had a great show for 35 years "from the recording horn" He had a sensational collection of over 20,000 records, many rare 78's few have ever heard and he played many of those every Sat. at 4pm on his radio show . It followed the Met. brdcsts. he was Mr. Opera RIP
Pav told me personally when I worked at the radio station that Tucker was his favorite Non Italian tenor, not Jussi but I am sure he admired him even though he was not the warmest tenor like Pav's fav. Di Stefano. He was not being just generous when he named Tucker as he did in his book because he could have named Jussi but named Tucker and of course Gigli and other Italians. Not that it matters but Lauri Volpi wrote in his book that he was not impressed with JB but loved Tucker's voice.
@wiseoldfart Pavoratti on page 92 in his book "MY OWN STORY" talks about Tucker but says Di Dtefano was his all time favorite, not JB, he has mentioned Bjorling as a great tenor but not in terms even close to Tucker of whom he said was the "Master of us all, Being generous you say? I could say when he said Jussi was a great tenor he was being generous which was the Bulllshit you came up with about tucker? Can you accept the fact that he liked Tucker? Only a putz would argue that.
I have a review also from the met in JB's 1950 don carlo---- they said his voice is too lyric for the role, Cassidy in Chicago said voice "not stentorian enough" in Aida in big Chicago house-- he did 3 and no more . He was her fav. tenor and she said so but not in a role that called for MDM. Corelli or RT. Met review in his Boheme 1938 was good but at times they said it was white. If you want I can flame him more, they all can be flamed, even Tucker but unless you heard him in house, Bull
@SHICOFF1 Bjorling was one of the lucky ones that could get away with wobbling, white tone, and a total disregard to the dramatic situation on stage. He was a very great lyric tenor that played pretend in the recording studio. But didn't he collapse from the effort of singing the c'' in the Butterfly duet with De Los Angeles? Of course he did have a serious heart problem not helped in the least by all the booze he drank.
His daughter heard Tucker and RT was her favorite and she did give him Tucker's canio suit. JB had a lyric voice, Tucker a big spinto, voices are so different but tucker was a Caruso type, JB was not ever, my grandfather heard Caruso, JB and Tucker and said Tucker was most similar in sound. JB was basically lyric tenor that I heard on stage and the poster of this site has said he even had trouble hearing JB over Simionato at the met 59' Cav. he heard in house, mentioned on opera L --
@SHICOFF1 Some people think they can write any nonsense they cook up and it will, by magic, be true. Assholes like the turkey here are a plague on youtube because they cook up a bogus justification to serve as the basis for their ad hoc attacks using them on several sites as their turn-key attack. Tucker's Celeste AIda was the real thing not some recording studio blow-up. Bjorling was great on a recording but Radames would have swamped him in the opera house and did in Chicago.
@gaytenor Yes that's true and JB when I heard him in the big Chicago house did not sound as large as I would have expected from his records. Live is the best way to Judge a lot of things about voice.
@wise oldfart I looked as you say on google but they are so full of shit they keep pushing pav, domingo and jose and what's in now- like Florez.. Tucker was not a TV star or a international tenor till later. Jussi was early and he also recorded with RCA and they had better casts then Columbia did Jussi sang here in the 30's and in fact sang very little in Italy compared to what Tucker did later The Italians export tenors not import them mostly. If I don't like someone I don't bother with it.
@SHICOFF1 It says a lot about Tucker real greatness that they went out of their way in Italy to offer contracts at the great opera houses--Roma. Florence, Parma, Milano, etc. to an american tenor. The same goes for the recordings of Forza and Aida with Callas where they changed the conductor rather than lose Tucker. The announced conductor's wartime activities were of a nature that Tucker felt it necessary to initially decline the recordings.
Tucker on stage sang Spinto roles like Calaf, Forza, Luisa, Samson, Gioconda and Aida, all in Big houses. Hard to compare a Spinto to a Lyric very well. Tucker sang those besides the besides the Manrico's and Don Carlo's.
@wiseoldfart I am not going to insult you but I get the feeling you have not read much about Tucker at all. . Toscanini knows who to pick and he got the Greatest Tenor . Tucker got 20 Curtain calls in Vien in 1958 after Tosca and Italy gave him not Jussi their highest award the commendatore. JB sang at La Scala in 51-- was asked by an Italian after Ballo "You sing beautifully but why so cold? Jussi answered "I come from a from a cold country" This in the Jussi Book by his widow
@SHICOFF1: It's one of many stories told about many tenors. I found this quote on the Bjorling Grant site: "Enrico Caruso's widow officially named Bjorling as the only tenor of the time worthy enough to take on Caruso's mantle. Keep in mind this was when other greats like Del Monaco and Di Stefano were on the scene, and it was also right at the end of Gigli's career - all of them great Italian tenors themselves."
I can't believe she never saw Tucker on stage - a woman with her love for opera?
@wiseroldfart For the sake of improving your limited knowledge Caruso's widow was not really a fan of singing except for her husband. She moved on to a couple of other marriages. Gee isn't it interesting what you can learn in books! You are a total trolling putz.
@wiseoldfart Anti American's Bias. is common. Warren, Greatest Verdi Baritone and Merrill was The most beautiful. Both born American Jews and for many Europeans and some Americans they have a strong bias against Americans. Sirius is playing Tucker Brdcsts. almost weekly at the Met from the archives. yes he was loved and respected but some on you tube are really just looking to fight bringing up Bull. I won't go into someone's sex thing, not important. Look up wikipedia Richard Tucker .
@wiseoldfart I have books by pav. and he refers to tucker yes and said on a phone phone call to RT's dressing room after a 1973 Boheme brdcast tha t" Richard your the master of us all" In the Tucker book he said he was at the 69 la scala brdcst and he was yelling Bravo for the big voice-- an American Jewish tenor he said who got a huge ovation from the Italians he had not seen before. He also said on a TV show that Tucker sang like an Italian. The host brought up JB, Pav. did not himself
@SHICOFF1: Pavarotti was just being generous. Believe me, he idolized Di Stefano growing up and paid Bjorling the highest compliment of them all except, perhaps, Caruso. The only 'big' voice placed at the very top by anyone with a real feel for Italian opera is Caruso's. The big voices of Corelli and del Monaco get far more votes than the rarely mentioned (if at all) Tucker on every site I've visited regarding the great tenors. What the hell, some people think Bocelli and Potts are great.
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@wiseroldfart Now your Dr. Fart reading Pavarotti's mind. Is there any bottom to your utter foolishness? Del Monaco who held most of his fellow tenors in contempt admired Tucker so did DiStefano, Domingo, etc. To even suggest that Tucker's talents are like Bocelli or Potts is mind blowing. TUCKER WAS THE WORLD'S GREATEST TENOR IN HIS PRIME YEARS--1945-1975--AND HE WAS THE HIGHEST PAID TO. IN 1971 HE WAS PAID $9,000 FOR ONE MANON LESCAUT IN FLORIDA. WHAT A PUTZ YOU ARE111111111111111
@wiseoldfart the perfect singing of JB on the recording sounded very fine on the JB 1955 Studio and the aria is a lyric one sure. As far as live or even on recordings his dramatic moments in his recording may be for many a voice that's is not ideal and on stage in 1958 in the big chicago house he was flamed buy a critic who loved him above all others. Claudia Cssidy a great chicago critic who said in the review he is my favorite tenor but---not stentorian enough for it. Rec's are different
Caruso sounded great yes and if he was over recorded like many tucker and MDM recordings later in the electric recordings of today his voice may have had the effect tucker's did .Del monaco was over recorded and yet Caruso in the old poor recordings did not show all his over tones that would come out later but then some big voices do well in studio like Vickers and Corelli Tucker on all the met opera club recordings in studio was amplified properly, listen to german opera singer's Chenier of RT
@wiseoldfart You say if a tenor does not record well in studio he is not all that good? Tucker's Voice not his Singing did not record as well in studio as live. Same with MDM. JB sang some Spinto roles fine like trov but many other lyrics did, Pavoratti/Carlo B. Tucker and MDM where over miked in studio recordings, smaller voices usually where not like Pav, Bergonzi and JB . Tucker and MDM sang well in studio but the engineer's back then had them often over miked so live was better for them.
@SHICOFF1 Some people fail to understand that a large voice needs the large space of the opera house to fully reveal the splendor of the sound. Both Tucker and Del Monaco as well as Corelli belong in this group. Small voices like Bjorling's are best heard in a small hall as was Pavarotti who didn't really cut it in Aida either. A live performance by Pavarotti in a German House still is problematic because the voice just wasn't large enough.
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Fans like Bocelli and Potts? Not true opera fans most of them. Bocelli sang in Detroit, a big barn and was barely heard past the front of the house. Bocelli of course is better than Potts. I heard Tucker sing in that place twice in 71 and 73, in Carmen and Trovatore and he brought the house down. In Vienna he got 20 curtain calls in 58 after Tosca, in 69 in Luisa Miller in Milan all the critics raved and he got a huge ovation that Pavoratti talked about in the Tucker book by james drake.
@wiseoldfart Judge best in the opera house not at home through speakers, that's only a way to judge technique not voice squillo or over tones accurately. I heard Jussi on stage live, also RT and MDM and CB and yes Di Stefano the same week as MDM in Nov.1959. I was 19 then and that's the way to judge. JB was the lyric tenor , sang with perfection, the voice recorded well as with Pav and Bergonzi. Tucker and MDM did not record as well in studio. You are 59 and did not hear JB live in house.
@SHICOFF1: What does any of that matter? Did I say anything about how they sounded on stage? Yes, Bjorling was a lyric, but could dive into spinto roles fairly well. Bjorling's Celeste Aida is still my favorite.
If a tenor can't record well in a studio, he isn't all that good. Listen to Caruso's 1904 recordings. Despite the horrible recording technique of the day, his amazing resonance rose above it all. That's a great tenor!
Incidentally, I listen through audiophile headphones.
Did Corelli HAVE A LISP? YES HE DID AT TIMES AND YES HE COULD DIMINUENDO BUT SO WHAT, NOT NEEDED THAT OFTEN AND CARUSO COULD NOT ANYMORE THEN TUCKER COULD. TUCKER COULD TRILL AND SING A CADENZA AND A GOOD ONE EASILY BUT NOT CORELLI, NO DUKE FOR HIM AND IN BOHEME HE WAS ONLY FAIR BUT AS CALAF LIVE HE WAS THE BEST EVER. IF HIS HABITS DON'T BOTHER YOU FINE AND IF TUCKER'S HABITS DON'T FINE AND IF JUSSI'S DON'T FINE-- EVERYONE HEARS DIFFERENTLY JB HAD AN OCCASIONAL EXCESSIVE VIBRATO ON TOP SO WHAT
MDM was a dramatic tenor and sang a great ballo in 46, after the 40's forget any more lyric role and i heard his otello in 59 on stage, terrific but martinelli in 1940 sang it at the met with rethberg and even though he voice was more a spinto he sang it like no other I heard but i heard MDM in house, not GM . Tucker lasted longer then the more lyric Di Stefano, sure early great but he sang too open. Toscanini picked RT here, in the JB, book JUSSI Tosc says he did not want the more lyric JB.
How the hell can anyone compare a lyric tenor with a Spinto? or a Spinto with a dramatic? JB was a lyric he would not touch Calaf live on stage nor Forza nor sing in Aida in a big house after Chicago in his last two years. He told Dan Chgo PR guy Newman he was not happy with it and the reviews said he was not stentorian enough. Pav. wrote an entire foreward on Tucker in his book by Drake and raved in TV interviews. He was close with Tucker and his widow. Corelli --did scoop and slide, MDM? CONT
I have never really listened to any Opera,,,,,,,, found Mr Tucker by accident and am amazed with his voice and also with other singers I have linked into . I did not understand all the things you are argueing about on this site as my knowledge of music is non existent.....I feel that some of you are getting upset over very small details!!! ...........But I am now a Opera fan.
I am listening to the 1949 Lescaut being brdcst on Sirius at the moment with JB and Kirsten and the announcer says he uses "emotion missing in some of his other performances according to some critics" and yes it's his best perfomance I think, better then the 1956 Met. one he sang with Albanese who never stinted on emotion!
Afro you seem to dislike American singers, even ones like Warren,Merrill, Zinka. How about Millo? The greatest Spinto soprano I ever heard and I heard Tebaldi in her prime also, very close but for me Millo was best. By the way if I was a fanatic why would I have Shicoff for a user name? I could have had a variation of Tucker. I know both vinyl and gay tenor and they are not Tucker fanatics anymore than I am but they hate people flaming him on his site. I also was in the JBS fan club.
OH PAT BOONE WROTE EXODUS WITH E GOLD/ No not great music but Jussi sang crap songs also in the 30's and later, some of the Swedish songs are no better Afro, are you XP11xp also? You also seem do dislike Tucker personally calling him Dickie,so why do you post him on your site at all?
@gaytenor Perhaps he means Bjorling could diminuendo but that does not mean he had more control then Rt in fact he needs to name where--- Early Tucker in the 50's in Mozart Cosi and Flute in 49 he sang it too great critical acclaim with great control and also the Bel Canto songs later .Anyhow not a good comparison of voices, a Spinto and a lighter lyric. Tucker had a great rill--(ah si BenMio) JB did it only one time in 1939 and the trill was not as good Control! RT had great cadenza's also
@gaytenor--yes in fact pav. never sang the lieder or French rep. that JB did and he never had the low notes either, nor did the sweetest lyric tenor voice- Gigli. Bjorling had that and yet he never seemed as warm as Gigli and in fact his reason he said for not singing Faust/Romeo rec. was he said his french was not good for studio rec. Yet he sang Romeo and faust live, his French was better then Corelli who was poor in anything but Italian. Early JB was mediocre in Italian but he improved.
As an artist of perfect singing Peerce, Bjorling, Schipa and a few other tenors are tops. They are lyric and cannot be compared to Spinto's really well or a dramatic tenor like MDM or Melchior. Wunderlich was another with perfect tech. great lyric tenor and he had more warmth probably in the voice then Jussi did but I Never heard him live in house sadly. Had he lived look out! Neil S. was a passionate singer with heft and a lyric tenor, still sings in Europe at age 61, lives in Vienna.
Bjorling sang less opera later, only about 10 roles and gave recitals and he was great at that, sang a sophisticated selection and was impeccable, sang with taste but i would never compare a lyric voice with a spinto as far as over all tone and pav you can compare to juss. pav did not have the jussi low notes, no but hje did have a warmer italian sound that jussi did not have in his silver voice. tucker had the more Italian sound and Anders Bjorling told me Tucker had a career later in Italy.
@wiseoldfart Everyone has an opinion but Tucker was warmer, had greater dynamic range. He sang roles that Jussi would never touch, (Calaf) hearing them both live RT had as much control. JB when he pushed it had a occasional vibrato or wobble on top,Control Tucker had. Bjorling was splendid for 30 years cause he started in opera earlier at 19 He died at 49 and was transposing down C's often by then.Tucker sang C's even at age 60 in 4/74 as Calaf and 1973 in Ballo and he sang last act Aria.
@SHICOFF1 This turkey just doesn't have a clue he should take the time to pull his head out of his rectal area before he spreads his 'enlightened opinions' since I was a serious student I ask the fool where did Bjorling display more control! Tucker sang an extremely wide repertoire including Handel's Samson Bjorling spent his time getting bombed.
@gaytenor: Perhaps you should pull your joint out of Tucker's rectum and listen to all of the tenors who rank much higher than your so-so idol. That list includes Bjorling.
Yes, Bjorling had better voice control than anyone I've ever heard. He could scale with ease. Tucker was no match for Bjorling. The general consensus is on my side.
And then there's Caruso. His voice may have had limits, but it was a voice that haunted more people than any other in the 20th century. Amazing resonance!
@wiseroldfart The tenor was straight which I'm not and he was, unlike you a really classy human being that loved his fans. Anyone who finds Corelli superior in terms of vocal quality(you cannot mean technique) is a tone deaf totally unmusical fool. Unlike you I am a trained musician and I know good technique. Lastly I'm gay and make no secret of it Mary may be you should do the same Nellie.
@gaytenor: That's just your amateurish opinion. Trained musician with bad hearing, huh? Must be tough making a living. Keep shaking that tin cup!
I'm assuming English is your second language, so get an interpreter for this:
Corelli is listed as among the greats on most sites. Tucker gets a mention here and there, but not on most sites. Why is that? Caruso, Gigli. Bjorling. Pavarotti, and several other top Italians are mentioned frequently. Type 'greatest tenors' in a Google box. See and cry.
@wiseroldfart: Most of the so called lists you cite are from Europe. The BBC poll has Peter Pears among the top ten and over here no one would so list him. Find me a poll from Italian opera fans that lists Bjorling who was not liked in Italy while Tucker was loved over there.
Second language flame from a Simpson's fan? I actually covered baseball and had a byline in a newspaper of course I probably would be better off watching the Simpsons. Read the essays by John Steane.
@wiseroldfart: While you watch the Simpsons I listen to opera often with the piano-vocal score of the opera. I do not waste my time cooking up lurid sexual fantasies such is the activity of a teenager with no other outlet. I have a loving partner whom I'm devoted to he's real and not a lurid dream. From comments here and other sites your knowledge of good singing is pre-school at best. You also cook up facts to suit your purpose that you seemingly have sole access to. Your a creep!!
@gaytenor: Nature screwed you. Don't take it out on me.
I suppose you're one of those misogynists who hates the likes of Sissel, Callas, te Kanawa, Tebaldi, Price, etc. As for my bad taste in music, I admit to having the 'bad' taste of Caruso, Bjorling, Gigli, Corelli, and Pavarotti fans, as well as fans of the aforementioned ladies.
Sorry, but I don't care about your sexual problems. I love beautiful women, not ugly butts.
It's YOU'RE a creep, not YOUR a creep, you uneducated tenor wannabe.
@wiseroldfart Dear moron so I made a mistake did it make your day? I have a high honors degree in finance and was offered a full fellowship in finance and quantitative methods at an important university. Who is Sissel?
Your the one who suggested something that is totally disgusting not I. My sexual orientation is my business and I do not in the least feel screwed by nature. If I had a hang-up about my sexual orientation would I use the screen name gaytenor. Go watch the Simpsons.
@gaytenor: Then again, look in the mirror - after you pull your head out of Tucker's colon. Jussi had better voice control than Tucker and Bjorling's higher register was simply amazing with that steely voice. Try listening with your head out!
@wiseroldfart I would be willing to bet that I have more Bjorling recordings than you do and Tucker was a better singer with a much, much more flexible voice. This is not a subjective point but one that is borne out by studying the performances. Tucker could trill like a bird care to find a true trill out of Bjorling! Tucker's high notes are like bronze cannon shots. I heard them in the hall. Listen to 'Sound an Alarm' by Tucker on youtube and learn something. What a scumbag you are.
@wiseroldfart Dear expert yes Bjorling had an easy top that he pushed without mercy to the point of wobbling in his later work both in the studio and the opera house. Listen to the 1959 Faust its full of the pushed high notes that are wobbling. Tucker's top was stentorian, unforced and clarion. I actually had the good fortune to hear him in both opera and recital and from the back of the house the high notes were amazing in their power.
@wiseroldfart Could you please stop sharing your senile teenage wet dreams with the rest of us. When you are totally ignorant of musical knowledge all you can do is reach into your bag of lavatory remarks to insult a great artist. Tucker was a credit to music, his family, and certainly his country even going to Vietnam to sing the Passover Seder for the soldiers. He was a good man and I hate seeing cheap shots from retarded assholes like you.
@wiseoldfart You have a point about the greatest ever recorded cause Jussi, (don't forget Gigli) recorded very well, the Mic. loved lyric voices but live is not the same thing. Del Monaco and Tucker had huge voices that needed to be heard live. I heard MDM, JB and RT starting in the 50's, Tucker was the greatest Spinto ever, if Jussi recorded in Caruso's time with that technology you would be pissed. Peerce recorded Ballo and Carmen thanks to JB who canceled, Gedda got Faust, same thing.
@SHICOFF1: I prefer del Monaco and Corelli to Tucker. Same goes for Pavarotti, but not because I think Pav had a big voice. It's more in the tonal quality.
I don't care if Bjorling's voice wasn't as big as Tucker's. It was more versatile and better controlled. Bjorling was also splendid for 30 years despite the booze and heart problems.
@wiseroldfart Bjorling more versatile than Tucker? You are so extremely ignorant and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Tucker could sing ANYTHING, and did, including opera, pop, Hebrew and Yiddish melodies, Cantorial material, and Broadway show tunes and all equally well. I'd sure love to hear Bjorling's attempt at "The Exodus Song" if I needed a good laugh.
@VinylToVideo: YOU are the ignorant one. It's all in the QUALITY of the voice. Can I help it if you don't know an exceptional tenor when you hear one? Bjorling sang in many languages as well and did many arias better than Tucker could ever hope to. To my surprise, Tucker was almost non-existent in my search for other opinions of best tenors of the 20th century. Bjorling, Gigli, del Monaco, Di Stefano, Corelli, and Caruso get tons of attention - and for good reason!
@wiseroldfart While I'm a devoted fan of Del Monaco he was never in Tucker's league as a singer and Corelli was too busy doing his scooparamas to bother learning to sing. As to Pavarotti get a life you tone deaf turkey. Pavarotti was a slightly warmer voiced reedy version of Bjorling, but not nearly as talented. The heart problems Bjorling had were not helped by his being a drunk. In the nice little repertoire he sang after the war Bjorling was outstanding when he didn't wobble.
@gaytenor I FEEL MDM was superior to Tucker inDiction PhrasingRecitativo& beauty of voice.Tucker also hit his consonants hard & rolled his R's like (GUERRRIERIO) IO FOSSI,and sometimes has a honking sound to his voice.MDM hit everything clean and right on.When criticizing Corelli for his portamentos which were redundant at times.Corelli had a beautiful dark tenor voice, capable of doing deminuendos& mezza voce eventually overshadowing his shortcomings.Surely you must feel the same way about RT
@sugarbist: Like I said before, I don't split hairs. I study the whole performance of a tenor and then listen to others who did the same songs or arias. I then listen to other songs and arias done by those who stand above the crowd and pick a favorite tenor for each aria or song. Caruso and Bjorling are the only tenors on my 'A' list. A good ten or so are on my 'B' list. Tucker is among quite a few on my 'C' list. Like others, I just don't see greatness in his voice. He's no Caruso or Bjorling.
@wiseroldfart I leave Caruso on a plateau by himself.Bjorling had a beautiful voice.but for me he was a little cold.Although Gigli&Volpi were great,my favorite tenors are Del Monaco Corelli& DeStefano.Tucker is not one of my favorites but he has done some nice singing.Early Butterfly.Forza, Cielo e Mare.I also think he was a sincere artist&i've learn to appreciate him more. The only spanish tenor i care for is Cortis.I do split hairs a little bit because of the difficulty of the profession.Enjoy
@sugarbist: I understand what you mean by 'cold,' although I found Bjorling's 'O holy night' surprisingly 'warm' and inspirational for someone with a somewhat hard voice.
You apparently understand what I mean about Caruso. He was a mind-blowing tenor. Puccini must have been in awe. Who knows how much they played off each other? I'm amazed that these two giants actually walked hand in hand! I'm also amazed that Puccini was so poorly accepted early in his career. He's tops by far with me.
@gaytenor: I don't agree. I prefer del Monaco, Di Stefano, and Corelli to Tucker, who may or may not have been the original model for Dudley Do-Right and American Dad. I'm not nearly alone in placing them ahead of Tucker. I guess we all have poor taste. So did Pavarotti, I suppose, for not putting Tucker near the top of his list. Did Pav ever mention Tucker? I see a mention once in a while by other opera fans, but the others I favor are mentioned far more often.
@wiseroldfart I am a big fan of both Del Monaco and Di Stefano but neither tenor was in Tucker's league as a singer and Pavarotti loved Tucker and called him "the master of us all" you goddamn asshole. You can like any singer you want but when you suggest that Bjorling's Celeste Aida is the model of how the aria should be sung. A small voiced lyric tenor that had a disaster(by his standards) in Chicago is not the model try Heppner for example he sings the climax as written.
@gaytenor: I don't care if a tenor doesn't sing something as written. A great tenor thinks outside the box. Caruso was THE master at it. How much did Puccini's gifted tenor inspire him to write, I wonder?
Pavarotti idolized Di Stefano as a youth and later said that a voice like Bjorling's comes but once in a millennium, so don't tell me he thought as highly of Tucker. Where on the Internet can I find ANYTHING said of Tucker by Pav? Google ran me into a dead end. See Wikipedia on Pavarotti.
@wiseroldfart Gee your going to have to go to the library and probably miss a Simpson episode or two. Read the foward pp vii-ix of 'Richard Tucker by James A. Drake and published by Dutton. The forward is written by Luciano Pavarotti. And please remember when you accuse someone of sodomizing a deeply religious man--ordained cantor--with a wife and children that members of his family are still alive and they do not have to read your disgusting wet dreams.
@wiseroldfart Caruso was actually fairly accurate in singing as written except for the occasional downward transposition. Caruso was bypassed for both La Boheme and Tosca and the only role Puccini tailored to Caruso's voice was Dick Johnson in La Fanciulla del West. Only a musical moron would assume that you can alter the music to suit your needs. That abysmal style of performing went out with Fernando De Lucia and his ilk. As to Pavarotti read the Drake book mentioned above.
Jussi told Danny Newman PR director in Chicago after he sang the run of 3 as Radames in Nov.1958 that he was not happy with it. Danny was a friend of mine and told me. Danny told him it was fine anyhow. Pav. did it in SF and also was not a big success really. I heard it in house, was in SF to see neil shicoff sing in Lucia, 1981 I lived then in los angeles. Jussi sang it a few times in small houses in the 30's and 40's, Hungary and Vien but Chicago was his last time. He died in 9/1960
Bjorling like Bergonzi was basically a lyric tenor and when he was younger he sang an amazing number of roles that later he did not do, more concerts. He canceled often do to health problems we all know about. I heard him and the voice was half as large as Tucker's or Corelli but they like Caruso where true Spinto's and Jussi and Bergonzi where Lyric Spinto's. Now I heard JB in 1958, beautiful , rather cool usually compared to Italians or for that matter Tucker. He Recorded well. live? Tucker
-- Jussi tried it in Chicago in 1958 he did not get good reviews from a huge fan of his, Claudia Cassidy who was the top critic in Chicago and in the Tribune in Nov. 1958 she said he was not "stentorian enough for it in a big house" and it would be risky even in a smaller house. He only sang 3 shows in Chicago in Aida. Recording is one thing and his sold well but live is another and with a lyric voice, not powerful on stage it was not a good role for him. Versatility? Tucker sang 30 roles.
Jussi was a lyric tenor basically. I heard himin 58' in fact when he sang Radames live in Chgo, 3 shows Cassidy said he was not stentorian enough in the big house for the role and she loved his voice over anyone, she was a critic for the Chicago trib. I have the reviews and heard him that year in Rigoletto with Moffo, his voice carried but was Much smaller then Tucker's. I would not compare him to Caruso either, both Caruso and Tucker where Spinto's, too different to compare. Both Great singers
@MissLadyboy007 Yes he still had the Lyric sound but the top always was powerful and he waited 16 years to sing the opera on stage in 1965 with Nilsson at the Met. to good reviews and the following year with Price, later with Arroyo. He paced himself very well, moving slowly into heavier roles and he lasted.
Richard Tucker is a tenor that I was aware of but somehow never heard sing. What an ommission judging by this video. It is obvious from his voice that he was at this time a budding spinto, but just listen to how sweet his voice is in the opening exchanges with the bass.
He was very great long before this on the early 1940's Chicago theater of the air Brdcsts. Also his complete 1947 Boheme recording with Sayo is wonderful, if you don't like it why bother posting comments? He was a great tenor, the greatest spinto ever IMO and nothing can change that.
I have a date of 3/26/49 but was it brdcst over two sessions? I need to check my VCR copy. This is in fantastic sound! History being made. Complete on TV, 1949
Incredbile Tucker at only 36 years old. Already that spinto sound was surfacing, and the Bb's were already the best in the business. Great legato and he tosses off this tremendously difficult aria with ease and aplomb.
@premiereopera1: Tucker didn't do this with ease. He did a good job, though. If you want to hear a tenor do this aria with ease, Jussi Bjorling is the only one. Not only did he do it with ease, he benchmarked it. Nobody, not even Caruso, did it better than Jussi.
@wiseroldfart So much gas here I suggest you buy some Beano!! Your comment about Bjorling is a bad joke to compare a lyric tenor with Tucker or Caruso in a spinto role that he couldn't handle on stage in Chicago is just plain silly. The aria has been sung as written with the soft b-flat at the end by tenors like Heppner, etc., please learn something before you make a fool of yourself. Tucker's singing is effortless and still he was years from his absolute prime.
@gaytenor: You're the fool here! Tucker was no Bjorling or Caruso! Tucker was good, but the general consensus overrules your opinion. The other two were the greatest tenors ever recorded for reasons you fail to understand.
Keep judging on a note or two while the rest of us judge on versatility.
@wiseroldfart The "general consensus" overrules all of our onions and declares Andrea Bocelli or Paul Potts to be the greatest tenor to ever walk to earth; doesn't mean that's really the case. Tucker was more than just "good." His 30+ year career in opera was comparable ONLY to Caruso's. Bjorling was smart enough to avoid Radames with his tiny cold voice, except in the studio where they could shove the microphone down his throat.
@VinylToVideo: I advise you to listen to Bjorling's tiny, cold voice sing 'O Holy Night' and then tell us Tucker could have topped that. That's only one of the reasons why Bjorling was considered the best Tenor since Caruso. Pavarotti idolized Bjorling for good reason.
Tucker doesn't come close to matching Caruso, either. Listen to Caruso's 1904 recordings. He sings with such feeling. Caruso was complex and had an amazing resonance. Tucker was just loud and devoid of emotion in comparison.
@wiseroldfart Two questions: Why are you comparing a lyric tenor to a tenore forza? And why are you promoting Bjorling on a Tucker video? If you love Bjorling so much why don't you talk about him on a Bjorling video. I love Bjoerling as well but I don't just start talking about him on every video comments section I post in.
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@GermanOperaSinger: I don't split hairs the way you might. When I hear two tenors sing the same aria, I will compare them like I did here. I will also attempt to find the best work from each one. I want people to see all the contestants before declaring a winner like so many do on a video or two of so-so singers. I'm talking about Bocelli and Potts, not Tucker, who beats the pants off those two.
I got a lot of grief for trying to introduce Pavarotti, Caruso, and Bjorling to Potts fans.
@wiseroldfart The "O Holy Night" recording is nothing special and actually makes his voice sound small as it was. I've enjoyed Tucker's singing more on every occasion I've heard it. If you don't care for Tucker I'd suggest you stick with the videos of your God and leave your bullshit comments on a blog or something where perhaps you'll find someone who agrees.
@XP11XP These members of the Tucker-fanclub always throw a fit when someone does not like their darling Tucker. But they are fanatics, and what do you expect from a fanatic. Btw, Björling would never touch a bad piece of music like the Exodus song. Björling did not sing Hollywood kitsch.
@AfroPoli Defending a favorite is still better taste than posting videos for the sole purpose of flaming singers one dislikes. Maybe I should dig up some recordings of my least favorite singers and post them with derogatory commentary?
@GermanOperaSinger A completely meaningless post. You do not even notice how it backfires I guess. You are in fact admitting that what you are doing is bad. Thanks.
@AfroPoli I'm not doing anything. Other than the reply to your comment (and this one I'm writing now) I posted only one other comment, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I am still confused as to why you blocked me from posting on your videos; my comments were always constructive and never personal attacks. Additionally, I never posted in excess, but since apparently you've purposely made an enemy out of me by blocking me for no particular reason, I've lost all respect for you.
@GermanOperaSinger You got blocked because of your fanatic posting and attacking. Just like under this video and under any other video of Tucker. It's very simple.
@AfroPoli You obviously must be mistaking me for someone else. I never made personal attacks. Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not writing an appeal trying to get myself unblocked. I honestly could care less, but I needed to set the record straight. You're not so praiseworthy yourself. If you hate Tucker so much why do you keep returning to his videos to flame him? (That's a rhetorical question by the way, don't bother to reply, I'm not posting any more comments.)
@GermanOperaSinger Stop lying. I wrote one comment on Tucker here and that was something like half a year ago. You wrote, wait... something like 30. And stop calling critique for "flaming". What a stupid word, always used by the same stupid people who cannot take it when someone does not worship their God.
@AfroPoli Please! I assume you place me in the Tucker-fanclub so I plead guilty since I love great singing, but iin fact my favorite tenor is Jan Peerce.You do, however, need to know your Bjorling better. Bjorling sang a good deal of pure muck like 'the desert song' etc., I do not attack him for turning a buck and it never hurt the quality of his song recitals. In the real world a singer has a fairly short window of opportunity to build up his security for his or her declining years. Grow-up!
@XP11XP Mingo (where's the Do?) is an absolutely awful and ungifted singer (and conductor) who is praised as a God; it's not hypocritical when all that undue praise is given and the performance actually is rotten.
@wiseroldfart Your so full of shit you should flush before you spew your nonsense. Your reference to the 1904 recordings of Caruso being influenced by Caruso's is just crap. Caruso was a great singer but who, except yourself speaks of Caruso's complexity as a human being? Is it complex to pinch a woman on her butt in the park? Tucker devoid of emotion who are you listening to? Your opinions are so badly stated that I frankly am wondering if your having mental problems.
@wiseroldfart May I suggest 'dumboldfool' Pavarotti modeled his Duca in Rigoletto on Jan Peerce's, was a major fan of Tucker's--read his piece on Tucker in Luisa Miller at La Scala in the Tucker biography--and the best recording of 'minuit chretiens' is the fantastic recording made by Georges Thill in the original French. Thill did not have a tiny voice.
Complexity was, from the reading I've done, not Caruso's strong point and where in the hell did you get that idea?
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@VinylToVideo Your comment is refreshing!! Why do we have to suffer these pompo0us assholes all the time? I'm sure this turkey is a major fan of the current fraud Joseph Calleja the new savior of the opera whose tiny voice and bleating bianca tones become Caruso like in the minds of the faithful. I would not be surprised to find the full offerings of Paul Potts and Bocelli in that moron's collection.
@wiseroldfart What versatility? Picking out the booze of the night? Compare their repertoires and you might be shocked by how versatile Tucker was. As to a CONSENSUS ask the Met fans of the time. Tucker was said to have had the most beautiful voice at the Met in a company that included Bjorling and Jan Peerce. Bjorling had his little repertoire and his concerts--when he wasn't too bombed to sing--but Tucker kept on learning new roles right up to his death. Its called work ethic.
Hearing Tucker's thrilling voice with its signature ring makes one understand why keeping Tucker on the roster of the Metropolitan Opera was his first priority. This is the sound of a true tenore di forza in development. By the time he sang the role at the Met in the 65 season he was a full fledged tenore di forza with stentorian high notes and a dark middle voice but the singing is still bel canto.
I have removed my comments off subject and I see Gay tenor has also as they don't pertain to this aria sung by Tucker. Gay tenor is an excellent writer but also wants to keep the political talk out of this I suspect-- as I do.
Well I have heard him do it many years later and here he was 35 yrs old and never would consider it on the stage yet, though he had the power but was still not not as Spinto as later. this was Concert version and Toscanini wanted him to do it, you don't say no to Maestro Toscanini but he waited till 1965 to sing it on stage at the met. and his Aida was Nilsson and then he sang it again in 1966 and in the 70's also at the met. Compared to his later versions he is more lyric here of course.
It would be very nice if we could enjoy the singing of Tucker without having to read the lies, threats, etc., of Baritanist! On his singing(?) of the 'star spangled banner' it was posted by a viewer that Baritanist = Mr. Cafiero and God knows how many more screen names. His new found love for the Tucker voice is merely a device to enable him to troll. In the past he commented to me that Giuseppe Giacomini was a better tenor than Tucker Giacomini wasn't as good as Kurt Baum was by a long shot.
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor Now you better stop smudging my identity. I have saved EVERY SINGLE of your hateful, antisemitic nazi postings, your despicable comments about my singing and received quite a few PRIVATE ones forwarded by others who you believe are your friends. LOL People who live in glasshouses... I hope you know the rest. Baum was a great tenor, don't use him to flame Giacomini.
Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist Where the hell do you get off threatening other users asshole? As to glasshouses I'm not the one who posts noises that sound for all the world like the death throes of a rabid dog. Its a constant theme with you 'monster baritone,' 'Mr. Cafiero,' etc. you have been caught and your worthless name published Mr. Jeremy Silver. You are one of the worst insults to music and opera on the internet and that is saying a lot slimeball.
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor Gaytenor, is that really you singing that Mattinata Cafiero has posted?
signorinissimo 5 months ago
@signorinissimo Funny how gaytenor dares to insult others when he cannot sing better than that. Thank you for forwarding.
TsarBovov 5 months ago
@TsarBovov The so called singing that the demented moron posted is not me! I fully plan to file a complaint against him for his conduct. Try his so-called Nessun Dorma abortion it is without doubt the same ghastly voice used to promote the charlatan Stanley. I would never willing post anything that godawful and Baritanist does it with disgusting regularity. That disgusting moron even claims that Tucker had a tremolo in this performance. By the way piss off!!!!!!!!!!!
gaytenor 5 months ago
@signorinissimo Admitting that Baritanist = Cafiero ! That probably ruined your day. Since you are the one that posted the nonsense YOU KNOW IT ISN'T ME. The sound of that godwful noise is about the same as the ghastly recording of the awful Nessun Dorma. Running the two through a voice recognition program would prove that they were made by the same voice. Unlike Baritanist I have pride and I would never even think of recording something with that bad a sound.How many screen names do you have?
gaytenor 5 months ago
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@signorinissimo Admitting that Baritanist = Cafiero ! That probably ruined your day. Since you are the one that posted the nonsense YOU KNOW IT ISN'T ME. The sound of that godwful noise is about the same as the ghastly recording of the awful Nessun Dorma. Running the two through a voice recognition program would prove that they were made by the same voice. Unlike Baritanist I have pride and I would never even think of recording something with that bad a sound.How many screen names do you have?
gaytenor 5 months ago
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Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist If you cannot stand the heat Jeremy get out of the kitchen. Your singing is worst than the worst of Olive Middleton and Florence Foster Jenkins. Your so called singing is even worse than the howling of Signor Gomez. You would have to ask my Jewish friends if they think I'm antisemitic especially a distinguished cantor that helped me research a question. Your the tone deaf fool who said that Giacomini was better than Tucker not me putz!! OY VEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gaytenor 5 months ago
@Merrillmiller99 The Baritone is Valdengo and excellent!
SHICOFF1 7 months ago
@snedsted Actually according to Peerce "swore to me that Toscanini asked him to do the Brdcst." but he he turned Toscanini down knowing it was not a good role for him. Toscanini did prefer Tucker to Bjorling for Radamas who he had considered. RT said he would sing the Brdcst. and in 1955 recorded it but said many times he would not sing it on stage till later in his career and he waited till 1965 in his early 50's. He was excellent then with Nilsson and later with Price in 66 plus others.
SHICOFF1 7 months ago
On stage live Bergonzi was not nearly as good in the role as RT later, much smaller, not as stentorian as Tucker's. Recordings are one thing and live is another. Bjorling made a fine recording of it with Zinka but live when he finally sang it in a big house in 58' Chicago, the reviews where mediocre for his less stentorian powerful voice. He had better success with it early in smaller European houses. Bergonzi fared well singing it at the met. but Tucker, MDM and Corelli really fit the role.
SHICOFF1 7 months ago
@SHICOFF1 Bergonzi was very, very intelligent in his approach to Radames concentrating on the lyrical moments in the score, but the concertato was problematic to say the least as was the scene of consecration in act one. Tucker's more stentorian tones were awesome in those scenes.
gaytenor 7 months ago
The 1949 Aida is one of Toscaninis best opera concertante. You could have feared that Jan Peerce would have been chosen to sing the Radames part. But fortunately Toscanini asked Tucker to sing the part, which he does very fine. He also sang Radames opposite Callas in a commercial recording later, and the two recordings show, that Tucker is one of the best Radames-interpretator in 20 century. The only Radames I find better is Bergonzi in the 1959-recording under Karajan.
snedsted1 8 months ago
@snedsted1 Peerce knew that Radames would have required him to force to be effective so he passed on the role. How could you fear that Peerce would be selected 62 years after the fact? As SHICOFF1 has pointed out Bergonzi was not an ideal Radames when compared with more robust ringing voices like Tucker or Del Monaco. Your cheap shot at Peerce was tasteless!
gaytenor 7 months ago
@gaytenor As I can see, you are still trolling strong, insulting and lying. Leave the great TUCKER alone!
Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist Well they finally let you out of the HA HA HOUSE? I'm not lying you demented slime ball. Tucker never studied with that charlatan Stanley!!!! His only singing instruction was from Paul Althouse. And as for the value of Stanley's method listen to the noise that you have the gall to post you tone deaf fraud!! I quite honestly have heard more melodious sounds out of a cat in heat!!! Go take your meds you hopeless totally insane troller.
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor GAYTENOR = TROLL
Just look at the number of his postings, 4365 in two hateful, pityful years.
Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist First place where did you get your numbers you moron? You insult and injure the hearing of anyone curious enough to play your 'singing' to further your lunatic claims that you know how Tucker, Peerce, sang forgetting two important points:
1. Their careers were based on having great voices and totally secure singing methods that owe not one damn thing to that charlatan Stanley. 2. You claim--hahahaha--that Stanley saved Tucker from a vocal crisis that never happened.
Get a life!!
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor Youtube has statistics, I am surprised that a troll of your calibre does not know about that. Don't feel too safe buddy. Now about your points: 1. rubbish; 2. rubbish. Tucker STUDIED with Stanley. Stanley SAVED Tucker after he had a vocal crisis and could not hit the high C anymore. This is FACT. You are an ignorant, old bitter man who cannot listen. The only charlatan here is YOU.
Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist I know about the stats asshole! Try 3,333 views if its any of your business. Tucker studied with Stanley like you have a tape of my singing. I KNOW WITH TOTAL CERTITUDE THAT TUCKER DIDN"T HAVE SAID CRISIS, THAT HE NEVER STUDIED WITH STANLEY DO YOU THINK HE WANTED TO SOUND LIKE YOU PUTZ? As for tapes of my singing play them because they do not exist. I would like to see you try to carry out your threats you demented moron! OY VEH WHAT A PUTZ!!!!!!!
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor OK, I will post your "singing" as an example for my students of how not to treat the voice. I will let you know, cherie. LOL.
And you know nothing about Tucker. You are just one great CHARLATAN who keep repeating the same lies over and over again. LOL. They won't become true just because of that. You are PATHETIC.
Baritanist 5 months ago
@Baritanist : You give away who you are dearie on that dreadful insult to our national anthem that you recorded and remember that a threat is sort of a violation even on youtube. I have friends who knew Tucker and I met him several times. As for your devout love of Tucker you once told me in a comment that that godawful screamer Giacomini was a better tenor than Tucker. I know your a lying sack of shit who should be removed at once from youtube even before you go to the ha ha house.
gaytenor 5 months ago
@gaytenor LOL When did I tell you that Giacomini was better than Tucker? Where? Stop your lying. And what threat are you talking about? If you consider your voice a threat to the public's ears, I totally agree. So, better don't sing, don't talk and don't post. Just be quiet and take your drugs.
Baritanist 5 months ago
Who is this great baritone?
Merrillmiller99 9 months ago
Tucker the great Stanley disciple. The glory of the human voice! Bravissimo!
Baritanist 9 months ago
@Baritanist ucker owed his career to A God given voice, hard work, and Paul Althouse not that sham Stanley. Do you honestly think that anyone believes the goddamn nonsense you post and Tucker NEVER PRODUCED TONES LIKE THE DREADFUL TAPE RECORDER BLEATS THAT YOU CALL SINGING. Your singing is less musical than the fart scene in Blazing Saddles. Get a life!!!
gaytenor 9 months ago
@gaytenor Stop trolling and stop writing your dirty lies about RT.
Baritanist 9 months ago
@Baritanist YOU GODDAMN DEMENTED FRAUD TUCKER NEVER WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT FRAUD STANLEY. YOU ARE EITHER THE BIGGEST NUT ON YOUTUBE OR THE BIGGEST CHARLATAN SINCE THAT KING OF CHARLATANS STANLEY. YOU SEEM TO HAVE INCREASED YOUR LISTING TO INCLUDE JAN PEERCE AND LIKE TUCKER HE WAS WAY TOO SMART FOR YOUR BULLSHIT. JUST ASK YOUR DOCTOR TO INCREASE YOUR MEDS IT MIGHT HELP YOU COPE WITH WHAT A WASTE OF LIFE YOU ARE. STANLEY RUINED MORE VOICES THAN ANY OTHER CHARLATAN. YOUR SINGING IS PURE SHIT.
gaytenor 9 months ago
@gaytenor ROFL I am a professional singer and so were Stanley and Tucker. I have heard your tapes and you are SHIT pal. You are the biggest troll here on YT.
Baritanist 9 months ago
@Baritanist Do you specialize in lease breaking? Your singing(?) is a pain in the ears. Stanley was not a professional singer he was a voice destroyer.Neither Peerce nor Tucker ever studied for one minute with Stanley or any of the other charlatans that claim to teach his method(what a joke hahahaha). As for my singing please produce my singing so I can sue your ass off for libel. Give it up if you were any good as a singing teacher you wouldn't need to beg for students like you do.
gaytenor 9 months ago
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@gaytenor Sorry to say so but idiots like you are the CANCER of this planet. Leave Tucker and Stanley alone!
Baritanist 9 months ago
@ premiere opera How can I angrily shout on print? I am angry when I write because some JB Fans make JB a God and troll RT. They are more fanatical then all the Corelli fans fans put together. I am and was a Jussi fan long ago, in Dan Shea the past pres. of the JBS society is a friend of mine and Cantor Don Goldberg a huge fan. I was in JBS for years and was in the home of Anders Bjorling, JB's son and daughter in law some years ago. I never flame JB on his sites as the RT trolls do.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
@premiere opera I talk to Henry that often myself, as far as Jussi I have said on his sites you cannot compare him to RT asJB was a lyric spinto tenor basically, not a spinto. You have said you heard him in the late 50's a few times and he was drowned out in Cav. by Simionato when they sang together at the met. You said also on opera L that you had trouble hearing JB like with Morell . I heard JB in 1958 and am older than you and his voice sounded smaller then on rec. but it did carry .
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
I do not monitor my posts because most of the posts with the offending comments are not from anything I posted. They have been the same for years. Always angrily shouting at anybody who dares say another tenor (such as Bjoerling) is as good or better than Tucker. This starts the "out of control" stuff. If you want to have contests, I speak to Barry four or five times weekly, and David a bit less often. Tucker doesn't need the overt and sometimes nasty defense. His singing speaks for itself.
premiereopera1 9 months ago
@VINYLTOVIDEO THANKS FOR DEFENDING ME AND THANKS TO GAY TENOR AND ELVIRA1003 YOU ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT TUCKER BUT PREMIERE OPERA HAS A HARD ON AGAINST ME FOR NO GOOD REASON AND I HAVE NEVER EVER HURT TUCKER IN ANYWAY.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
@premiereopera1 I don't see anything wrong with Shicoff1's defense of Tucker. Other commenters defend him more forcefully. Obviously Shicoff1 is a big fan but what's wrong with that?
Elvira1003 9 months ago
@PREMIERE OPERA Look Ed why not attack anyone who fights or trolls against Tucker yet you only attack me and my comments are no stronger than anyone else who likes RT. If I was doing him harm than why would the Tucker's be my friend? I talk to Henry 4 times a week or more and have known him for 38 years. If I did RT harm they would tell me as Henry reads the posts I send him. However you have caused me to never defend Tucker again and the family can thank you or be angry at you for that.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
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SHICOFF1 9 months ago
Tucker did not deserve me? OK you got it.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
If my posts defending Tucker bother you premiere opera than since you have the power to remove them instead of calling me names just do it. Just remove all my posts about Tucker and also how about all the posts flaming him that you insist on leaving so as not to insult anyone.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
It is also a shame that the genius premiere opera a supposed fan of tucker does not defend him compared to myself or gay tenor or Vinyl. This man is an egotist as I have defended RT against false attacks where as this person leaves nasty posts about him on his sites. A few of us have defended him. Calling me an idiot matters not.
SHICOFF1 9 months ago
What a damn shame that virtually every Tucker post on Youtube has to be soiled by the idiotic and hotheaded Shicoff. He seems to think his rantings are helping or defending Tucker, when the truth is just the opposite. This has been going on for years. Only the screen names change, but it is the same individual. Basta already! Tucker did not deserve this at all.
premiereopera1 10 months ago
@premiereopera1 Tucker gets trolled more than anyone. SHICOFF1 is just reacting to the trollers lies. This would not happen if you were more careful in the way you monitored the comments posted. We, unlike you, do not have to worry about losing a sale so we have the liberty of answering the unsupported vicious lies that trolls like 'wiseoldfart' and 'afroPoli' insert. Really Ed if you have a problem with SHICOFF1 why not a private message. With a friend like you Tucker's memory is ill-served.
gaytenor 9 months ago in playlist Opera
@premiereopera1 The only shame is that every Tucker post is spoiled with malicious comments smearing him. Why shouldn't SHICOFF1 defend Tucker and better yet why don't you ever defend him if he is, according to your own comments, your favorite tenor? You are truly a nut case, Ed, and having previously dealt with you know you're a deadbeat crook and that your opinion is of zero consequence.
VinylToVideo 9 months ago
@VinylToVideo Well said my friend!!! Some posters at least take the disgusting stuff off but, of course, they do not have business interests to consider. We can be thankful that Myto now features quite a few of Tucker's best performances since they are well made and well documented, and SONY now has a series of well made reissues.
gaytenor 9 months ago
@GAYTENOR Mrs. Caruso was married about 3 years when he died but I have never read her book in favor of Ybarra. A great man of opera died yesterday but not a singer except when he was at Harvard. Andy Karzas of station WFMT Chicago had a great show for 35 years "from the recording horn" He had a sensational collection of over 20,000 records, many rare 78's few have ever heard and he played many of those every Sat. at 4pm on his radio show . It followed the Met. brdcsts. he was Mr. Opera RIP
SHICOFF1 10 months ago
Pav told me personally when I worked at the radio station that Tucker was his favorite Non Italian tenor, not Jussi but I am sure he admired him even though he was not the warmest tenor like Pav's fav. Di Stefano. He was not being just generous when he named Tucker as he did in his book because he could have named Jussi but named Tucker and of course Gigli and other Italians. Not that it matters but Lauri Volpi wrote in his book that he was not impressed with JB but loved Tucker's voice.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart Pavoratti on page 92 in his book "MY OWN STORY" talks about Tucker but says Di Dtefano was his all time favorite, not JB, he has mentioned Bjorling as a great tenor but not in terms even close to Tucker of whom he said was the "Master of us all, Being generous you say? I could say when he said Jussi was a great tenor he was being generous which was the Bulllshit you came up with about tucker? Can you accept the fact that he liked Tucker? Only a putz would argue that.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
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I have a review also from the met in JB's 1950 don carlo---- they said his voice is too lyric for the role, Cassidy in Chicago said voice "not stentorian enough" in Aida in big Chicago house-- he did 3 and no more . He was her fav. tenor and she said so but not in a role that called for MDM. Corelli or RT. Met review in his Boheme 1938 was good but at times they said it was white. If you want I can flame him more, they all can be flamed, even Tucker but unless you heard him in house, Bull
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
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SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1 Bjorling was one of the lucky ones that could get away with wobbling, white tone, and a total disregard to the dramatic situation on stage. He was a very great lyric tenor that played pretend in the recording studio. But didn't he collapse from the effort of singing the c'' in the Butterfly duet with De Los Angeles? Of course he did have a serious heart problem not helped in the least by all the booze he drank.
gaytenor 11 months ago
His daughter heard Tucker and RT was her favorite and she did give him Tucker's canio suit. JB had a lyric voice, Tucker a big spinto, voices are so different but tucker was a Caruso type, JB was not ever, my grandfather heard Caruso, JB and Tucker and said Tucker was most similar in sound. JB was basically lyric tenor that I heard on stage and the poster of this site has said he even had trouble hearing JB over Simionato at the met 59' Cav. he heard in house, mentioned on opera L --
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1 Some people think they can write any nonsense they cook up and it will, by magic, be true. Assholes like the turkey here are a plague on youtube because they cook up a bogus justification to serve as the basis for their ad hoc attacks using them on several sites as their turn-key attack. Tucker's Celeste AIda was the real thing not some recording studio blow-up. Bjorling was great on a recording but Radames would have swamped him in the opera house and did in Chicago.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor Yes that's true and JB when I heard him in the big Chicago house did not sound as large as I would have expected from his records. Live is the best way to Judge a lot of things about voice.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wise oldfart I looked as you say on google but they are so full of shit they keep pushing pav, domingo and jose and what's in now- like Florez.. Tucker was not a TV star or a international tenor till later. Jussi was early and he also recorded with RCA and they had better casts then Columbia did Jussi sang here in the 30's and in fact sang very little in Italy compared to what Tucker did later The Italians export tenors not import them mostly. If I don't like someone I don't bother with it.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1 It says a lot about Tucker real greatness that they went out of their way in Italy to offer contracts at the great opera houses--Roma. Florence, Parma, Milano, etc. to an american tenor. The same goes for the recordings of Forza and Aida with Callas where they changed the conductor rather than lose Tucker. The announced conductor's wartime activities were of a nature that Tucker felt it necessary to initially decline the recordings.
gaytenor 11 months ago
Tucker on stage sang Spinto roles like Calaf, Forza, Luisa, Samson, Gioconda and Aida, all in Big houses. Hard to compare a Spinto to a Lyric very well. Tucker sang those besides the besides the Manrico's and Don Carlo's.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart I am not going to insult you but I get the feeling you have not read much about Tucker at all. . Toscanini knows who to pick and he got the Greatest Tenor . Tucker got 20 Curtain calls in Vien in 1958 after Tosca and Italy gave him not Jussi their highest award the commendatore. JB sang at La Scala in 51-- was asked by an Italian after Ballo "You sing beautifully but why so cold? Jussi answered "I come from a from a cold country" This in the Jussi Book by his widow
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1: It's one of many stories told about many tenors. I found this quote on the Bjorling Grant site: "Enrico Caruso's widow officially named Bjorling as the only tenor of the time worthy enough to take on Caruso's mantle. Keep in mind this was when other greats like Del Monaco and Di Stefano were on the scene, and it was also right at the end of Gigli's career - all of them great Italian tenors themselves."
I can't believe she never saw Tucker on stage - a woman with her love for opera?
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart For the sake of improving your limited knowledge Caruso's widow was not really a fan of singing except for her husband. She moved on to a couple of other marriages. Gee isn't it interesting what you can learn in books! You are a total trolling putz.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart Anti American's Bias. is common. Warren, Greatest Verdi Baritone and Merrill was The most beautiful. Both born American Jews and for many Europeans and some Americans they have a strong bias against Americans. Sirius is playing Tucker Brdcsts. almost weekly at the Met from the archives. yes he was loved and respected but some on you tube are really just looking to fight bringing up Bull. I won't go into someone's sex thing, not important. Look up wikipedia Richard Tucker .
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart I have books by pav. and he refers to tucker yes and said on a phone phone call to RT's dressing room after a 1973 Boheme brdcast tha t" Richard your the master of us all" In the Tucker book he said he was at the 69 la scala brdcst and he was yelling Bravo for the big voice-- an American Jewish tenor he said who got a huge ovation from the Italians he had not seen before. He also said on a TV show that Tucker sang like an Italian. The host brought up JB, Pav. did not himself
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1: Pavarotti was just being generous. Believe me, he idolized Di Stefano growing up and paid Bjorling the highest compliment of them all except, perhaps, Caruso. The only 'big' voice placed at the very top by anyone with a real feel for Italian opera is Caruso's. The big voices of Corelli and del Monaco get far more votes than the rarely mentioned (if at all) Tucker on every site I've visited regarding the great tenors. What the hell, some people think Bocelli and Potts are great.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
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@wiseroldfart Now your Dr. Fart reading Pavarotti's mind. Is there any bottom to your utter foolishness? Del Monaco who held most of his fellow tenors in contempt admired Tucker so did DiStefano, Domingo, etc. To even suggest that Tucker's talents are like Bocelli or Potts is mind blowing. TUCKER WAS THE WORLD'S GREATEST TENOR IN HIS PRIME YEARS--1945-1975--AND HE WAS THE HIGHEST PAID TO. IN 1971 HE WAS PAID $9,000 FOR ONE MANON LESCAUT IN FLORIDA. WHAT A PUTZ YOU ARE111111111111111
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor Why am I not surprised... You forgot to mention STANLEY the man behind TUCKER'S success.
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SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart the perfect singing of JB on the recording sounded very fine on the JB 1955 Studio and the aria is a lyric one sure. As far as live or even on recordings his dramatic moments in his recording may be for many a voice that's is not ideal and on stage in 1958 in the big chicago house he was flamed buy a critic who loved him above all others. Claudia Cssidy a great chicago critic who said in the review he is my favorite tenor but---not stentorian enough for it. Rec's are different
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
Caruso sounded great yes and if he was over recorded like many tucker and MDM recordings later in the electric recordings of today his voice may have had the effect tucker's did .Del monaco was over recorded and yet Caruso in the old poor recordings did not show all his over tones that would come out later but then some big voices do well in studio like Vickers and Corelli Tucker on all the met opera club recordings in studio was amplified properly, listen to german opera singer's Chenier of RT
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart You say if a tenor does not record well in studio he is not all that good? Tucker's Voice not his Singing did not record as well in studio as live. Same with MDM. JB sang some Spinto roles fine like trov but many other lyrics did, Pavoratti/Carlo B. Tucker and MDM where over miked in studio recordings, smaller voices usually where not like Pav, Bergonzi and JB . Tucker and MDM sang well in studio but the engineer's back then had them often over miked so live was better for them.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1 Some people fail to understand that a large voice needs the large space of the opera house to fully reveal the splendor of the sound. Both Tucker and Del Monaco as well as Corelli belong in this group. Small voices like Bjorling's are best heard in a small hall as was Pavarotti who didn't really cut it in Aida either. A live performance by Pavarotti in a German House still is problematic because the voice just wasn't large enough.
gaytenor 11 months ago
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Fans like Bocelli and Potts? Not true opera fans most of them. Bocelli sang in Detroit, a big barn and was barely heard past the front of the house. Bocelli of course is better than Potts. I heard Tucker sing in that place twice in 71 and 73, in Carmen and Trovatore and he brought the house down. In Vienna he got 20 curtain calls in 58 after Tosca, in 69 in Luisa Miller in Milan all the critics raved and he got a huge ovation that Pavoratti talked about in the Tucker book by james drake.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart Judge best in the opera house not at home through speakers, that's only a way to judge technique not voice squillo or over tones accurately. I heard Jussi on stage live, also RT and MDM and CB and yes Di Stefano the same week as MDM in Nov.1959. I was 19 then and that's the way to judge. JB was the lyric tenor , sang with perfection, the voice recorded well as with Pav and Bergonzi. Tucker and MDM did not record as well in studio. You are 59 and did not hear JB live in house.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
@SHICOFF1: What does any of that matter? Did I say anything about how they sounded on stage? Yes, Bjorling was a lyric, but could dive into spinto roles fairly well. Bjorling's Celeste Aida is still my favorite.
If a tenor can't record well in a studio, he isn't all that good. Listen to Caruso's 1904 recordings. Despite the horrible recording technique of the day, his amazing resonance rose above it all. That's a great tenor!
Incidentally, I listen through audiophile headphones.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
Did Corelli HAVE A LISP? YES HE DID AT TIMES AND YES HE COULD DIMINUENDO BUT SO WHAT, NOT NEEDED THAT OFTEN AND CARUSO COULD NOT ANYMORE THEN TUCKER COULD. TUCKER COULD TRILL AND SING A CADENZA AND A GOOD ONE EASILY BUT NOT CORELLI, NO DUKE FOR HIM AND IN BOHEME HE WAS ONLY FAIR BUT AS CALAF LIVE HE WAS THE BEST EVER. IF HIS HABITS DON'T BOTHER YOU FINE AND IF TUCKER'S HABITS DON'T FINE AND IF JUSSI'S DON'T FINE-- EVERYONE HEARS DIFFERENTLY JB HAD AN OCCASIONAL EXCESSIVE VIBRATO ON TOP SO WHAT
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
MDM was a dramatic tenor and sang a great ballo in 46, after the 40's forget any more lyric role and i heard his otello in 59 on stage, terrific but martinelli in 1940 sang it at the met with rethberg and even though he voice was more a spinto he sang it like no other I heard but i heard MDM in house, not GM . Tucker lasted longer then the more lyric Di Stefano, sure early great but he sang too open. Toscanini picked RT here, in the JB, book JUSSI Tosc says he did not want the more lyric JB.
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
How the hell can anyone compare a lyric tenor with a Spinto? or a Spinto with a dramatic? JB was a lyric he would not touch Calaf live on stage nor Forza nor sing in Aida in a big house after Chicago in his last two years. He told Dan Chgo PR guy Newman he was not happy with it and the reviews said he was not stentorian enough. Pav. wrote an entire foreward on Tucker in his book by Drake and raved in TV interviews. He was close with Tucker and his widow. Corelli --did scoop and slide, MDM? CONT
SHICOFF1 11 months ago
I have never really listened to any Opera,,,,,,,, found Mr Tucker by accident and am amazed with his voice and also with other singers I have linked into . I did not understand all the things you are argueing about on this site as my knowledge of music is non existent.....I feel that some of you are getting upset over very small details!!! ...........But I am now a Opera fan.
nissan1324 1 year ago
I am listening to the 1949 Lescaut being brdcst on Sirius at the moment with JB and Kirsten and the announcer says he uses "emotion missing in some of his other performances according to some critics" and yes it's his best perfomance I think, better then the 1956 Met. one he sang with Albanese who never stinted on emotion!
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Afro you seem to dislike American singers, even ones like Warren,Merrill, Zinka. How about Millo? The greatest Spinto soprano I ever heard and I heard Tebaldi in her prime also, very close but for me Millo was best. By the way if I was a fanatic why would I have Shicoff for a user name? I could have had a variation of Tucker. I know both vinyl and gay tenor and they are not Tucker fanatics anymore than I am but they hate people flaming him on his site. I also was in the JBS fan club.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
OH PAT BOONE WROTE EXODUS WITH E GOLD/ No not great music but Jussi sang crap songs also in the 30's and later, some of the Swedish songs are no better Afro, are you XP11xp also? You also seem do dislike Tucker personally calling him Dickie,so why do you post him on your site at all?
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@gaytenor Perhaps he means Bjorling could diminuendo but that does not mean he had more control then Rt in fact he needs to name where--- Early Tucker in the 50's in Mozart Cosi and Flute in 49 he sang it too great critical acclaim with great control and also the Bel Canto songs later .Anyhow not a good comparison of voices, a Spinto and a lighter lyric. Tucker had a great rill--(ah si BenMio) JB did it only one time in 1939 and the trill was not as good Control! RT had great cadenza's also
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
@gaytenor--yes in fact pav. never sang the lieder or French rep. that JB did and he never had the low notes either, nor did the sweetest lyric tenor voice- Gigli. Bjorling had that and yet he never seemed as warm as Gigli and in fact his reason he said for not singing Faust/Romeo rec. was he said his french was not good for studio rec. Yet he sang Romeo and faust live, his French was better then Corelli who was poor in anything but Italian. Early JB was mediocre in Italian but he improved.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
As an artist of perfect singing Peerce, Bjorling, Schipa and a few other tenors are tops. They are lyric and cannot be compared to Spinto's really well or a dramatic tenor like MDM or Melchior. Wunderlich was another with perfect tech. great lyric tenor and he had more warmth probably in the voice then Jussi did but I Never heard him live in house sadly. Had he lived look out! Neil S. was a passionate singer with heft and a lyric tenor, still sings in Europe at age 61, lives in Vienna.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Bjorling sang less opera later, only about 10 roles and gave recitals and he was great at that, sang a sophisticated selection and was impeccable, sang with taste but i would never compare a lyric voice with a spinto as far as over all tone and pav you can compare to juss. pav did not have the jussi low notes, no but hje did have a warmer italian sound that jussi did not have in his silver voice. tucker had the more Italian sound and Anders Bjorling told me Tucker had a career later in Italy.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
@wiseoldfart Everyone has an opinion but Tucker was warmer, had greater dynamic range. He sang roles that Jussi would never touch, (Calaf) hearing them both live RT had as much control. JB when he pushed it had a occasional vibrato or wobble on top,Control Tucker had. Bjorling was splendid for 30 years cause he started in opera earlier at 19 He died at 49 and was transposing down C's often by then.Tucker sang C's even at age 60 in 4/74 as Calaf and 1973 in Ballo and he sang last act Aria.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
@SHICOFF1 This turkey just doesn't have a clue he should take the time to pull his head out of his rectal area before he spreads his 'enlightened opinions' since I was a serious student I ask the fool where did Bjorling display more control! Tucker sang an extremely wide repertoire including Handel's Samson Bjorling spent his time getting bombed.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@gaytenor: Perhaps you should pull your joint out of Tucker's rectum and listen to all of the tenors who rank much higher than your so-so idol. That list includes Bjorling.
Yes, Bjorling had better voice control than anyone I've ever heard. He could scale with ease. Tucker was no match for Bjorling. The general consensus is on my side.
And then there's Caruso. His voice may have had limits, but it was a voice that haunted more people than any other in the 20th century. Amazing resonance!
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart The tenor was straight which I'm not and he was, unlike you a really classy human being that loved his fans. Anyone who finds Corelli superior in terms of vocal quality(you cannot mean technique) is a tone deaf totally unmusical fool. Unlike you I am a trained musician and I know good technique. Lastly I'm gay and make no secret of it Mary may be you should do the same Nellie.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor: That's just your amateurish opinion. Trained musician with bad hearing, huh? Must be tough making a living. Keep shaking that tin cup!
I'm assuming English is your second language, so get an interpreter for this:
Corelli is listed as among the greats on most sites. Tucker gets a mention here and there, but not on most sites. Why is that? Caruso, Gigli. Bjorling. Pavarotti, and several other top Italians are mentioned frequently. Type 'greatest tenors' in a Google box. See and cry.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart: Most of the so called lists you cite are from Europe. The BBC poll has Peter Pears among the top ten and over here no one would so list him. Find me a poll from Italian opera fans that lists Bjorling who was not liked in Italy while Tucker was loved over there.
Second language flame from a Simpson's fan? I actually covered baseball and had a byline in a newspaper of course I probably would be better off watching the Simpsons. Read the essays by John Steane.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart: While you watch the Simpsons I listen to opera often with the piano-vocal score of the opera. I do not waste my time cooking up lurid sexual fantasies such is the activity of a teenager with no other outlet. I have a loving partner whom I'm devoted to he's real and not a lurid dream. From comments here and other sites your knowledge of good singing is pre-school at best. You also cook up facts to suit your purpose that you seemingly have sole access to. Your a creep!!
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor: Nature screwed you. Don't take it out on me.
I suppose you're one of those misogynists who hates the likes of Sissel, Callas, te Kanawa, Tebaldi, Price, etc. As for my bad taste in music, I admit to having the 'bad' taste of Caruso, Bjorling, Gigli, Corelli, and Pavarotti fans, as well as fans of the aforementioned ladies.
Sorry, but I don't care about your sexual problems. I love beautiful women, not ugly butts.
It's YOU'RE a creep, not YOUR a creep, you uneducated tenor wannabe.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Dear moron so I made a mistake did it make your day? I have a high honors degree in finance and was offered a full fellowship in finance and quantitative methods at an important university. Who is Sissel?
Your the one who suggested something that is totally disgusting not I. My sexual orientation is my business and I do not in the least feel screwed by nature. If I had a hang-up about my sexual orientation would I use the screen name gaytenor. Go watch the Simpsons.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor: Then again, look in the mirror - after you pull your head out of Tucker's colon. Jussi had better voice control than Tucker and Bjorling's higher register was simply amazing with that steely voice. Try listening with your head out!
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart I would be willing to bet that I have more Bjorling recordings than you do and Tucker was a better singer with a much, much more flexible voice. This is not a subjective point but one that is borne out by studying the performances. Tucker could trill like a bird care to find a true trill out of Bjorling! Tucker's high notes are like bronze cannon shots. I heard them in the hall. Listen to 'Sound an Alarm' by Tucker on youtube and learn something. What a scumbag you are.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Dear expert yes Bjorling had an easy top that he pushed without mercy to the point of wobbling in his later work both in the studio and the opera house. Listen to the 1959 Faust its full of the pushed high notes that are wobbling. Tucker's top was stentorian, unforced and clarion. I actually had the good fortune to hear him in both opera and recital and from the back of the house the high notes were amazing in their power.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Could you please stop sharing your senile teenage wet dreams with the rest of us. When you are totally ignorant of musical knowledge all you can do is reach into your bag of lavatory remarks to insult a great artist. Tucker was a credit to music, his family, and certainly his country even going to Vietnam to sing the Passover Seder for the soldiers. He was a good man and I hate seeing cheap shots from retarded assholes like you.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseoldfart You have a point about the greatest ever recorded cause Jussi, (don't forget Gigli) recorded very well, the Mic. loved lyric voices but live is not the same thing. Del Monaco and Tucker had huge voices that needed to be heard live. I heard MDM, JB and RT starting in the 50's, Tucker was the greatest Spinto ever, if Jussi recorded in Caruso's time with that technology you would be pissed. Peerce recorded Ballo and Carmen thanks to JB who canceled, Gedda got Faust, same thing.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
@SHICOFF1: I prefer del Monaco and Corelli to Tucker. Same goes for Pavarotti, but not because I think Pav had a big voice. It's more in the tonal quality.
I don't care if Bjorling's voice wasn't as big as Tucker's. It was more versatile and better controlled. Bjorling was also splendid for 30 years despite the booze and heart problems.
wiseroldfart 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart Bjorling more versatile than Tucker? You are so extremely ignorant and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Tucker could sing ANYTHING, and did, including opera, pop, Hebrew and Yiddish melodies, Cantorial material, and Broadway show tunes and all equally well. I'd sure love to hear Bjorling's attempt at "The Exodus Song" if I needed a good laugh.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
@VinylToVideo: YOU are the ignorant one. It's all in the QUALITY of the voice. Can I help it if you don't know an exceptional tenor when you hear one? Bjorling sang in many languages as well and did many arias better than Tucker could ever hope to. To my surprise, Tucker was almost non-existent in my search for other opinions of best tenors of the 20th century. Bjorling, Gigli, del Monaco, Di Stefano, Corelli, and Caruso get tons of attention - and for good reason!
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart While I'm a devoted fan of Del Monaco he was never in Tucker's league as a singer and Corelli was too busy doing his scooparamas to bother learning to sing. As to Pavarotti get a life you tone deaf turkey. Pavarotti was a slightly warmer voiced reedy version of Bjorling, but not nearly as talented. The heart problems Bjorling had were not helped by his being a drunk. In the nice little repertoire he sang after the war Bjorling was outstanding when he didn't wobble.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@gaytenor I FEEL MDM was superior to Tucker inDiction PhrasingRecitativo& beauty of voice.Tucker also hit his consonants hard & rolled his R's like (GUERRRIERIO) IO FOSSI,and sometimes has a honking sound to his voice.MDM hit everything clean and right on.When criticizing Corelli for his portamentos which were redundant at times.Corelli had a beautiful dark tenor voice, capable of doing deminuendos& mezza voce eventually overshadowing his shortcomings.Surely you must feel the same way about RT
sugarbist 1 year ago
@sugarbist: Like I said before, I don't split hairs. I study the whole performance of a tenor and then listen to others who did the same songs or arias. I then listen to other songs and arias done by those who stand above the crowd and pick a favorite tenor for each aria or song. Caruso and Bjorling are the only tenors on my 'A' list. A good ten or so are on my 'B' list. Tucker is among quite a few on my 'C' list. Like others, I just don't see greatness in his voice. He's no Caruso or Bjorling.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart I leave Caruso on a plateau by himself.Bjorling had a beautiful voice.but for me he was a little cold.Although Gigli&Volpi were great,my favorite tenors are Del Monaco Corelli& DeStefano.Tucker is not one of my favorites but he has done some nice singing.Early Butterfly.Forza, Cielo e Mare.I also think he was a sincere artist&i've learn to appreciate him more. The only spanish tenor i care for is Cortis.I do split hairs a little bit because of the difficulty of the profession.Enjoy
sugarbist 11 months ago
@sugarbist: I understand what you mean by 'cold,' although I found Bjorling's 'O holy night' surprisingly 'warm' and inspirational for someone with a somewhat hard voice.
You apparently understand what I mean about Caruso. He was a mind-blowing tenor. Puccini must have been in awe. Who knows how much they played off each other? I'm amazed that these two giants actually walked hand in hand! I'm also amazed that Puccini was so poorly accepted early in his career. He's tops by far with me.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Thanks enjoy
sugarbist 11 months ago
@gaytenor: I don't agree. I prefer del Monaco, Di Stefano, and Corelli to Tucker, who may or may not have been the original model for Dudley Do-Right and American Dad. I'm not nearly alone in placing them ahead of Tucker. I guess we all have poor taste. So did Pavarotti, I suppose, for not putting Tucker near the top of his list. Did Pav ever mention Tucker? I see a mention once in a while by other opera fans, but the others I favor are mentioned far more often.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart I am a big fan of both Del Monaco and Di Stefano but neither tenor was in Tucker's league as a singer and Pavarotti loved Tucker and called him "the master of us all" you goddamn asshole. You can like any singer you want but when you suggest that Bjorling's Celeste Aida is the model of how the aria should be sung. A small voiced lyric tenor that had a disaster(by his standards) in Chicago is not the model try Heppner for example he sings the climax as written.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@gaytenor: I don't care if a tenor doesn't sing something as written. A great tenor thinks outside the box. Caruso was THE master at it. How much did Puccini's gifted tenor inspire him to write, I wonder?
Pavarotti idolized Di Stefano as a youth and later said that a voice like Bjorling's comes but once in a millennium, so don't tell me he thought as highly of Tucker. Where on the Internet can I find ANYTHING said of Tucker by Pav? Google ran me into a dead end. See Wikipedia on Pavarotti.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Gee your going to have to go to the library and probably miss a Simpson episode or two. Read the foward pp vii-ix of 'Richard Tucker by James A. Drake and published by Dutton. The forward is written by Luciano Pavarotti. And please remember when you accuse someone of sodomizing a deeply religious man--ordained cantor--with a wife and children that members of his family are still alive and they do not have to read your disgusting wet dreams.
gaytenor 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart Caruso was actually fairly accurate in singing as written except for the occasional downward transposition. Caruso was bypassed for both La Boheme and Tosca and the only role Puccini tailored to Caruso's voice was Dick Johnson in La Fanciulla del West. Only a musical moron would assume that you can alter the music to suit your needs. That abysmal style of performing went out with Fernando De Lucia and his ilk. As to Pavarotti read the Drake book mentioned above.
gaytenor 11 months ago
Jussi told Danny Newman PR director in Chicago after he sang the run of 3 as Radames in Nov.1958 that he was not happy with it. Danny was a friend of mine and told me. Danny told him it was fine anyhow. Pav. did it in SF and also was not a big success really. I heard it in house, was in SF to see neil shicoff sing in Lucia, 1981 I lived then in los angeles. Jussi sang it a few times in small houses in the 30's and 40's, Hungary and Vien but Chicago was his last time. He died in 9/1960
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Bjorling like Bergonzi was basically a lyric tenor and when he was younger he sang an amazing number of roles that later he did not do, more concerts. He canceled often do to health problems we all know about. I heard him and the voice was half as large as Tucker's or Corelli but they like Caruso where true Spinto's and Jussi and Bergonzi where Lyric Spinto's. Now I heard JB in 1958, beautiful , rather cool usually compared to Italians or for that matter Tucker. He Recorded well. live? Tucker
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
-- Jussi tried it in Chicago in 1958 he did not get good reviews from a huge fan of his, Claudia Cassidy who was the top critic in Chicago and in the Tribune in Nov. 1958 she said he was not "stentorian enough for it in a big house" and it would be risky even in a smaller house. He only sang 3 shows in Chicago in Aida. Recording is one thing and his sold well but live is another and with a lyric voice, not powerful on stage it was not a good role for him. Versatility? Tucker sang 30 roles.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Jussi was a lyric tenor basically. I heard himin 58' in fact when he sang Radames live in Chgo, 3 shows Cassidy said he was not stentorian enough in the big house for the role and she loved his voice over anyone, she was a critic for the Chicago trib. I have the reviews and heard him that year in Rigoletto with Moffo, his voice carried but was Much smaller then Tucker's. I would not compare him to Caruso either, both Caruso and Tucker where Spinto's, too different to compare. Both Great singers
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
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SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Yes Premiere opera -- Your spot on here!
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
@MissLadyboy007 Yes he still had the Lyric sound but the top always was powerful and he waited 16 years to sing the opera on stage in 1965 with Nilsson at the Met. to good reviews and the following year with Price, later with Arroyo. He paced himself very well, moving slowly into heavier roles and he lasted.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Richard Tucker is a tenor that I was aware of but somehow never heard sing. What an ommission judging by this video. It is obvious from his voice that he was at this time a budding spinto, but just listen to how sweet his voice is in the opening exchanges with the bass.
MissLadyboy007 1 year ago
WHAT A GREAT COMBINATION , THESE TWO MADE.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
He was very great long before this on the early 1940's Chicago theater of the air Brdcsts. Also his complete 1947 Boheme recording with Sayo is wonderful, if you don't like it why bother posting comments? He was a great tenor, the greatest spinto ever IMO and nothing can change that.
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
TOSCANINI MADE TUCKER ABETTER SINGER BUT I FIND THE VOICE WAS A LITTLE STRIDENT &IRRATATING BUT GOOD HIGH NOTES
sugarbism 1 year ago
For heaven's sake!! What a time!! I'm glad I lived it all!! That was great!!!
jotahuene 1 year ago
I have a date of 3/26/49 but was it brdcst over two sessions? I need to check my VCR copy. This is in fantastic sound! History being made. Complete on TV, 1949
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
This is on VHS video as I bought it years ago but I wonder if they ever put it out on DVD? He was 35 years old here!
SHICOFF1 1 year ago
Incredbile Tucker at only 36 years old. Already that spinto sound was surfacing, and the Bb's were already the best in the business. Great legato and he tosses off this tremendously difficult aria with ease and aplomb.
premiereopera1 1 year ago
@premiereopera1: Tucker didn't do this with ease. He did a good job, though. If you want to hear a tenor do this aria with ease, Jussi Bjorling is the only one. Not only did he do it with ease, he benchmarked it. Nobody, not even Caruso, did it better than Jussi.
wiseroldfart 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart So much gas here I suggest you buy some Beano!! Your comment about Bjorling is a bad joke to compare a lyric tenor with Tucker or Caruso in a spinto role that he couldn't handle on stage in Chicago is just plain silly. The aria has been sung as written with the soft b-flat at the end by tenors like Heppner, etc., please learn something before you make a fool of yourself. Tucker's singing is effortless and still he was years from his absolute prime.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@gaytenor: You're the fool here! Tucker was no Bjorling or Caruso! Tucker was good, but the general consensus overrules your opinion. The other two were the greatest tenors ever recorded for reasons you fail to understand.
Keep judging on a note or two while the rest of us judge on versatility.
My former comment stands.
wiseroldfart 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart The "general consensus" overrules all of our onions and declares Andrea Bocelli or Paul Potts to be the greatest tenor to ever walk to earth; doesn't mean that's really the case. Tucker was more than just "good." His 30+ year career in opera was comparable ONLY to Caruso's. Bjorling was smart enough to avoid Radames with his tiny cold voice, except in the studio where they could shove the microphone down his throat.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
@VinylToVideo: I advise you to listen to Bjorling's tiny, cold voice sing 'O Holy Night' and then tell us Tucker could have topped that. That's only one of the reasons why Bjorling was considered the best Tenor since Caruso. Pavarotti idolized Bjorling for good reason.
Tucker doesn't come close to matching Caruso, either. Listen to Caruso's 1904 recordings. He sings with such feeling. Caruso was complex and had an amazing resonance. Tucker was just loud and devoid of emotion in comparison.
wiseroldfart 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart Two questions: Why are you comparing a lyric tenor to a tenore forza? And why are you promoting Bjorling on a Tucker video? If you love Bjorling so much why don't you talk about him on a Bjorling video. I love Bjoerling as well but I don't just start talking about him on every video comments section I post in.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
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@GermanOperaSinger: I don't split hairs the way you might. When I hear two tenors sing the same aria, I will compare them like I did here. I will also attempt to find the best work from each one. I want people to see all the contestants before declaring a winner like so many do on a video or two of so-so singers. I'm talking about Bocelli and Potts, not Tucker, who beats the pants off those two.
I got a lot of grief for trying to introduce Pavarotti, Caruso, and Bjorling to Potts fans.
wiseroldfart 11 months ago
@wiseroldfart The "O Holy Night" recording is nothing special and actually makes his voice sound small as it was. I've enjoyed Tucker's singing more on every occasion I've heard it. If you don't care for Tucker I'd suggest you stick with the videos of your God and leave your bullshit comments on a blog or something where perhaps you'll find someone who agrees.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
@VinylToVideo Hypocrite. Leave Domingo alone instead...
XP11XP 1 year ago
@XP11XP These members of the Tucker-fanclub always throw a fit when someone does not like their darling Tucker. But they are fanatics, and what do you expect from a fanatic. Btw, Björling would never touch a bad piece of music like the Exodus song. Björling did not sing Hollywood kitsch.
AfroPoli 1 year ago
@AfroPoli Defending a favorite is still better taste than posting videos for the sole purpose of flaming singers one dislikes. Maybe I should dig up some recordings of my least favorite singers and post them with derogatory commentary?
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger A completely meaningless post. You do not even notice how it backfires I guess. You are in fact admitting that what you are doing is bad. Thanks.
AfroPoli 1 year ago
@AfroPoli I'm not doing anything. Other than the reply to your comment (and this one I'm writing now) I posted only one other comment, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I am still confused as to why you blocked me from posting on your videos; my comments were always constructive and never personal attacks. Additionally, I never posted in excess, but since apparently you've purposely made an enemy out of me by blocking me for no particular reason, I've lost all respect for you.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger You got blocked because of your fanatic posting and attacking. Just like under this video and under any other video of Tucker. It's very simple.
AfroPoli 1 year ago
@AfroPoli You obviously must be mistaking me for someone else. I never made personal attacks. Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not writing an appeal trying to get myself unblocked. I honestly could care less, but I needed to set the record straight. You're not so praiseworthy yourself. If you hate Tucker so much why do you keep returning to his videos to flame him? (That's a rhetorical question by the way, don't bother to reply, I'm not posting any more comments.)
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger Stop lying. I wrote one comment on Tucker here and that was something like half a year ago. You wrote, wait... something like 30. And stop calling critique for "flaming". What a stupid word, always used by the same stupid people who cannot take it when someone does not worship their God.
AfroPoli 1 year ago
@AfroPoli Please! I assume you place me in the Tucker-fanclub so I plead guilty since I love great singing, but iin fact my favorite tenor is Jan Peerce.You do, however, need to know your Bjorling better. Bjorling sang a good deal of pure muck like 'the desert song' etc., I do not attack him for turning a buck and it never hurt the quality of his song recitals. In the real world a singer has a fairly short window of opportunity to build up his security for his or her declining years. Grow-up!
gaytenor 1 year ago
@XP11XP Mingo (where's the Do?) is an absolutely awful and ungifted singer (and conductor) who is praised as a God; it's not hypocritical when all that undue praise is given and the performance actually is rotten.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart Your so full of shit you should flush before you spew your nonsense. Your reference to the 1904 recordings of Caruso being influenced by Caruso's is just crap. Caruso was a great singer but who, except yourself speaks of Caruso's complexity as a human being? Is it complex to pinch a woman on her butt in the park? Tucker devoid of emotion who are you listening to? Your opinions are so badly stated that I frankly am wondering if your having mental problems.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart May I suggest 'dumboldfool' Pavarotti modeled his Duca in Rigoletto on Jan Peerce's, was a major fan of Tucker's--read his piece on Tucker in Luisa Miller at La Scala in the Tucker biography--and the best recording of 'minuit chretiens' is the fantastic recording made by Georges Thill in the original French. Thill did not have a tiny voice.
Complexity was, from the reading I've done, not Caruso's strong point and where in the hell did you get that idea?
gaytenor 1 year ago
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@VinylToVideo Your comment is refreshing!! Why do we have to suffer these pompo0us assholes all the time? I'm sure this turkey is a major fan of the current fraud Joseph Calleja the new savior of the opera whose tiny voice and bleating bianca tones become Caruso like in the minds of the faithful. I would not be surprised to find the full offerings of Paul Potts and Bocelli in that moron's collection.
gaytenor 1 year ago
@wiseroldfart What versatility? Picking out the booze of the night? Compare their repertoires and you might be shocked by how versatile Tucker was. As to a CONSENSUS ask the Met fans of the time. Tucker was said to have had the most beautiful voice at the Met in a company that included Bjorling and Jan Peerce. Bjorling had his little repertoire and his concerts--when he wasn't too bombed to sing--but Tucker kept on learning new roles right up to his death. Its called work ethic.
gaytenor 1 year ago
Hearing Tucker's thrilling voice with its signature ring makes one understand why keeping Tucker on the roster of the Metropolitan Opera was his first priority. This is the sound of a true tenore di forza in development. By the time he sang the role at the Met in the 65 season he was a full fledged tenore di forza with stentorian high notes and a dark middle voice but the singing is still bel canto.
gaytenor 1 year ago
Toscanini had so much character and emotion in his face, terrifc cond.
shiicoff1 1 year ago
I have removed my comments off subject and I see Gay tenor has also as they don't pertain to this aria sung by Tucker. Gay tenor is an excellent writer but also wants to keep the political talk out of this I suspect-- as I do.
shiicoff1 1 year ago
Well I have heard him do it many years later and here he was 35 yrs old and never would consider it on the stage yet, though he had the power but was still not not as Spinto as later. this was Concert version and Toscanini wanted him to do it, you don't say no to Maestro Toscanini but he waited till 1965 to sing it on stage at the met. and his Aida was Nilsson and then he sang it again in 1966 and in the 70's also at the met. Compared to his later versions he is more lyric here of course.
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Laeghaire 1 year ago