I am having trouble following along so I turned on the CC's. You all should try this. It instantly turns into a comedy. Apparently, the CC translator can't understand Buckley anymore than I can.
WFB: "If you want me to persue that digression I will (winks..)
NC: OK
Noam is the man. I've only just started to read his books. Why is he not required reading, starting in HS in the US? Oh wait, never mind.
Just look at WFB's body language to NC's. Completely defensive in every way. This was a kinder, gentler "no spin zone" from an earlier era but it's still the same. WFB is the company man, through and through. NC is showing everyone what's behind the curtain.
The problem with Chomsky is he views all nations and leaders the same. To him Nazi Germany/Hitler and the Soviet Union/Stalin is the same as any American government and US President. He can't or seems willfully unable to distinguish between ideologies and behavior. I've read bio's of Truman and Stalin (to name just two), and any intelligent person could determine which is the monster in five seconds. For all his intellect he's morally colorblind.
Gore Vidal said this about Buckley after his death:
"I thought hell is bound to be a livelier place, as he joins forever those whom he served in life, applauding their prejudices and fanning their hatred."
Buckley is so arrogant. I bet he spends hours before a mirror to practice his eccentric mannerisms. He can't hold a candle to Noam's brilliant knowledge of political agenda. Bite me Buckley.
The New World Order (as it is erroneously known) is in reality the Anglo-American Alliance which has designs on ruling the planet for the next 10 centuries. Malthusian-engineered shortages of food, water, medicine, fuel & materiel (as well as perpetual war) will serve their common goal of reducing the Earth's population of 6,500 million to 500 million (as prescribed in granite on the Georgia Guide Stones).
Today's atheistic Darwinists/evolutionists are the high priests of corporate science. They sermonize & pontificate, from lecterns & in clumsily-written tomes, on the "over-population" dilemma and the necessity of, foisting upon a stupefied populace, eu-genic measures (sterilants & abortifacients) to curtail growth.
Defy Wayne Newton or die in the trying. Defy his gaze and join in the meat-shortage. Defy Wayne Newton's hardened will and eat a knuckle sandwich. That'll be the reward for you: the jiggers of jiggly ports & secret warrior in the secret war to civilize Angola.
THE GYNECOLOGY OF DARKNESS [abortogenic adj. : causing abortion : ABORTIFACIENT] — [“Out of the night, two cocks together crow, Cleaving the darkness with a silver blow.” — Edward Thomas (1878-1917)]
By the 22nd century cunt doctors & oceanographers will have wiped out one another; moles & voles will be indistinguishable as will the concepts of flammability & inflammability.
Once we accept the propaganda of veterinarians that the surgical ablation of our dogs' & cats' testes & ovaries is of no more consequence than the removal of ornaments from a Christmas tree then we are primed to accept the same nonsense in regards to Human Beings. The ovaries & testes are integral in the regulation of metabolic function. Are your testicles, or ovaries, incidental, redundant, unnecessary and superfluous?
Fr. World Future Fund: The Death Toll in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War of 1898: The overall cost in human lives of American actions in the Philippines was horrific. One scholar has concluded concerning the American occupation that "In the fifteen years that followed the defeat of the Spanish in Manila Bay in 1898, more Filipinos were killed by U.S. forces than by the Spanish in 300 years of colonization. Over 1.5 million died out of a total population of 6 million."
"Edible: good to eat, and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm." — Ambrose Bierce [1842-1914?]
eugenism n -s : the combination of influences best suited to improve the hereditary qualities of a race or breed, esp. the human race (Fr. p. 783 of "Webster's Unabridged Dictionary," 1967)
The U.S. govt. sacrificed 3,000 soldiers at Pearl Harbor in 1941 to the Empire of Japan; the U.S. govt. poisons and adulterates our water with the waste product sodium fluoride and the blood intoxicant known as lithium (as well as innumerable heavy metals and pesticides). The U.S. govt. clouds the skies with aluminum oxide and barium salt. Murder is murder. The murdering of children is especially abhorrent.
On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
That video was put up on youtube in 2008 - Soccer AM started in 95, and started doing the crossbar challenge around 2006. Could you of got it any more wrong, you dumb shit.
Also, why the fuck would we want to start the home nations league up? We've got nothing to prove. We've consistantly been better than you for the past 30 years. Better ranked, better record at qualifying - full stop. We just don't care bout you like you care about us. thats why you hate us every world cup you don't qualify
@MrSyrett, Hey, Mr. English Grammar asshole, it's "...could you HAVE got it more...", and "...C O N S I S T E N T L Y..."
You're hardly the 'intelligible' super-intellect you perceive yourself to be.
Hey, english sheepdog-for-looks, CUM to my channel and see what American girls look like. I know that if I had to spend my life around women that look like what you're surrounded by, I would become a cyber asshole like you. Tsk tsk...
How ironic, some little prick brit with a computer shows us all how to behave in a "superior" way by diving into the electronic watercloset and acting like he doesn't stink.
Hey, @MrSyrett, You gormless muppet. You crooked-toothed asswipe. I see you get into these little "debates" all the time on YouTube. How's life over there in the Old Country? Spainish, Italian and French women are hot, but English women are like you, crooked teeth, chisled noses, and like you ungroomed english sheepheads, with untrimmed eyebrows which are about 3 cm long.
Do you know how pathetic you sound when you accuse me of following you over youtube, and then minutes later write three (barely literate) nonsensensical comments on my channel page, in the space of a few minutes? You first replyed to my comment on another video with your anglophobic bollocks. Your hate of the English obviously comes from your inferiority complex. It's understandable.
Hey, @MrSyrett, I'm so glad that you care to display 'social graces' here in the electronic toilet, also known as The Internet. That is so dysfunctional of you. It is so impressive that you need to establish your intellect here as an 'intelligible' person.
Chomsky is revered only by dweebo losers and homo scrawny buttfuckers. Most of those puny little 'cerebral' chomsky fans wear knee-high colored tube socks with shorts and white sneakers, and t-shirts that say "vote for pedro" or some shit like that.
Most of those who revere chomsky are fucking woody allen clones.
Uh, maybe I need to spell this out for you idiots -- the preceding was NOT a compliment.
Bill Buck is under the impression that Communism is in some kind of contrast with freedom... In all actuality, it would probably be the most free society.
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
Chomsky continually deals in examples....in facts...he remains calm and consistent and makes beautiful coherent distinctions between concepts and facts. He also concedes that which is unknown with an honest lightness of touch. Buckley on the other hand tries in vain to tie him up in wordplay and sounds utterly out of is depth. The days long since gone when I would turn up for an oral exam without preparation come into sharp focus when I watch buckley squirm here. This is an Epic mismatch.
Some of the people commenting must have no idea the contributions that Buckley made to the Conservative Movement in America as well as the political contributions he made to America. The clipboard is for taking notes, he's not reading from it, he's recalling Chomsky's previous comments. Buckley is the Father of the Conservative Movement, and he - as well as Chomsky - is a genius and made people think. Gah, how we need Buckley now during this term...
@jcc7386 The conservative movement is notorious for pushing ignorance. Count how many times buckley interrupted, or not even let Chomsky finish a complete sentence? He was the bill oreilly of his day. Conservatives are about the loudest voices being heard, not the more reasonable.
@guitarded459 I disagree. It's interesting dialogue, and Chomsky wasn't very diplomatic either. That's what happens when two savants debate. And I'd like to know your reasoning behind "the conservative movement is notorious for pushing ignorance [sic]." I can offer reasons that the liberal movement is responsible for socialism, such as: too much government control, overbearing federal regulation on banks, bailout with addendums attached, and I can go on, but I can't type anymore characters.
@my1dea ...your complaining about someone being loud and not giving the other the chance to speak... so you type a childish all caps offensive message with every insulting word your malformed brain knows... wow.
@my1dea well you exhibit the typical articulation of the free thinknig liberal...good going...by the way make sure to tip the bartender when you leave
This is why I subscribe to Hutch! Chomsky's clear-eyed view on global power and what it actually does displays a tremendous faith in democracy and humanity. Buckley's obfuscation, evasion and general intellectual dishonesty displays a deep cynicism of democracy and of people in general. The corporate-controlled media/government will always need men like Buckley. The only time I ever liked him on TV was when he hosted "Brideshead Revisited" on Masterpiece Theatre.
JUST CAUSE HUTCH LIKED THE VID DOESNT MEAN HE FUCKING SENT U GOD...... liking something is not a fucking link for ppl 2 go watch it...it just meaned he fucking liked it....
@xElecTrixzZ no not really. i'm not a fanboy type of person. but in an interview with seannaners hutch says he's got great admiration for Chomsky. He usually agress with him, Chomsky is an intellectual beast, nuff said.
@Vagnigun We do, just not generally on the internet. Televised debates are the domain of mature minds. The internet is the playground of the world and its children. On the one hand, it means that young minds are granted opportunity and access to information and literature that might normally be outside the social means or selections of their families. On the other hand, however, it means grudges, racism, xeno & homophobia, and religious bigotry are becoming worryingly normalised and widespread.
this was one of the most refreshing things i've seen so far on youtube, all that publicity crap and rebecca black this and justin beiber that, this was a nice step back to reality. even though its old,
teabag the motherfuckers who are pro-war bastards. And I say that even if I volunteered for the army and wanna be a soldier for all my life. Invading 3rd world countries is an act of barbarism
William F. Buckley, Jr. ... One more proof that dumb republicans like him need to be schooled by Chomsky! As a German all I can say is that I truly hope that geniuses and truly patriots as Noam Chomsky will show those morons where they belong!
the cooing,purring,winking and any of the other affectations buckley exibits are a sure sign the water is getting too deep for him.again and again,chomsky proves the more convincing and persuasive with his straight forward style and more pertinently ,content.buckley`s transparent obfuscations meander into no mans land and are left hanging..while chomsky tries again and again to redirect him to focus on the serious.
Its great that a Classical Conservative like Bill Buckley could debate a Socialist Libertarian like Noam Chomsky. Two people who agree on almost nothing in a respectful and in an intelligent way.
@fromis111 -- come on, admit it, you mastur-debater, you either (1) want hot looking girls, or (2) you're a brown-dirt cowboy who putts from the rough.
If (1), let me make this clear to you: pretty girls / women think you're an ugly, grotesquely obese, bald smelly pig. Uh, news flash: hot girls aren't attracted to Buckwheat - Vidal - Chomsky - Mailer - etc obsessed "intellectuals."
If (2), well, just be sure to clean the fecal bits off the tip of your pickle when you're done.
Hi, @fromis111, how is your little 'debate champion' fantasy going there, eh, loser?
How good do YOU look in a swimsuit??
Have you been laid this week? This YEAR???
You sadly live in the house of mirrors created by meaningless losers, low-income, low net worth, low sexual pleasure (WITH OTHER HUMANS, THAT IS) 'smart' people who are too fucking foolish to see how we in the REAL world look at you chomsky v. buckwheat fans and laugh so hard that we blow Pepsi out our nostrils!!! Hahahah!
While I'm out with a rather colorful group of individuals, most of whom appear on stage weekly in front of more than 10,000, who speak more languages than you will ever read, who fuck like monsters (and have a rather nice time doing so), YOU sit on your computer and challenge people to 'debates' and fantasize that you're that fuckhead chomsky and that you 'defeat' other people -- your enemies -- as if they're buckwheat, in some fantasy of the above video. You sad, sick, STUPID, homebound loser.
"hatred for pseudo-intellectualism"...So, genius, motherfuck @fromis111, what, do you ADMIRE pseudo-intellectualism? You ARE retarded!!
Let me guess, you're canadian, too. You wanna play psychoanalyst? Here's a mirror for you gay little self: You are so confused by how you don't fit into any productive group of individuals so you deceive yourself into thinking you're 'smart' (har) and that THEREFORE you mean something to someone. WRONG on all counts, dipshit.
Hey, fromis111, what's with your sexual deviancy? Why do you desperately substitute threats for 'debates' with others, as if you'll prove your manhood by 'outdebating' others? You are one sexually confused, falsely self-intelligent-perceiving freak.
@mk9228, You're about as ignorant as they come. You PRETEND to be knowledgeable (..."I hate people with a 'BRITISH' accent... -- YOU DUMB BUTTFUCKER, it's called a Patrician accent--are you a RE-tard, or are you just plain IGNORANT, or are you STUPID, too??) and you express these opinions wrapped up in the pretense of being informed, when you are just another hoser canuck, puking this pseudo-intellectual crabshit.
@g17y5wb You're either really petty and embittered (and are consumed by such a hatred for pseudo-intellectualism that you think it's the biggest problem since, I don't know, fascism?), or you are so profoundly self-confident and happy that you are completely unconcerned with the glaringly obvious hypocrisy of spending so much time criticizing people whose opinions you profess to value so little. But sadists don't tend to be happy, so I'm just utterly confused.
@g17y5wb And don't just give me another one of your "Oh I'm just a petty little DICK-SMEGMA-SNIFFER who spends all his time MASTURBATING in his little basement and trying to impress people with his stupid fucking COCK-whatever opinions in his tiny little world of youtube blah blah blah"
So I looked up "stiff prick" in Miriam Webster's dictionary, and there it was, a color photograph of noam "the mini-dick, woody allen clone" chomsky.
Fuck you all.
"Smart" yet oh, so stupid.
You got good grades in school when the other boys were getting pussy, and your little masturbating dickheads' personalities became completely woven around this pathetic idea that you're "smart", yet you were / are too fucking IGNORANT to understand that nobody fucking cares.
@g17y5wb The man you call a "mini dick woody allen clone" has made more contributions to linguistics and social activism than most anyone in the public eye. He's been at the forefront of criticism on foreign policy. I'm curious as to what your criticisms of Chomsky are? On a personal note you seemed to imply that the "smart kids" weren't getting pussy.....That's an argument straight out of middle school haha. Haven't heard talk like that since those times.
First time hearing, seeing Buckley... the arrogance and air of entitlement is sickening... a clear example of hegemony and a lackey ( Buckley ) who blindly follows for his bread.
Okay, so I sat and tried to fold my legs into lotus position. But my hip popped out of its socket! Damn! It hurt like HELL! So I began moaning and groaning, but the other meditators around me thought I was chanting my mantra so they ignored me. Since I was already folded into the lotus position, I farted this rotten eggs scented bomb that wafted around the room. NOW they began paying attention to me. So then I just shit my pants, hoping that they'd call an ambulance...
If Buckley was alive today, he'd be insisting that Socialism was bad because it didn't work but that "free markets" are good because even though they don't actually exist in practice, as a conceptual distinction, it is better than Socialism. Both are ideologies that when put in actual practice lead to great human suffering.
Buckley your a dick! You go round in circles, constantly taking the conversation off point and you interject with facts that are "loosely" related to the subject as a whole but are practically irrelevant to the specific topic / point being discussed at the time. Bill O'Rielly has studied you well !!
Idiots here I see find communist backing chumsky to be something more than an irritating hair on the bottom of Buckley's shoe! I now see more clearly how the state of idiocy has brought us to a president named obama. I fear this country, as Friedman had warned 40 years ago, has gone to far into socialism to recover. You cannot save a country from itself, and those who do not even know what they are losing! It is sad but that idiots usually prevail over time! Maybe it is corruptied genes!?
@vincentkjones1 maybe its just the horrible nationalistic views of people such as yourself, maybe concentrate on your spelling and structure of your argument before commenting. buckley was an extremly well spoken individual, yet his arguments are steps below the relative logic of chomsky
Buckley is absurdly pretentious and self-satisfied and ever so cultured and high and mighty, but the eyes flashing at 7:05 after "No, the people of Greece" seems to be an entirely primitive attempt at ape intimidation
I laughed when I actually HEARD Buckley smile when Chomsky accidentally said "liberate," which makes me realize that even the brightest minds fall to word-play propagandizing.
Father of Neoconservatism vs. Father of American academic marxism and social democracy. Is there no one in the intellectual scene who advocates private property? How sad... :(
I hate when stupid people have a british accent... it just gives them some false sense of intelligence, chomsky owned this guy, but buckleys voice and facial expressions are soooooooooo annoying, wouldnt blame chomsky if he had decked the guy in the face.
I myself would blame someone for clocking their debate partner unless reasonably provoked(reasonably meaning a reason other than the sound of someone's voice, or the look on their face), but that's just me.
And that is a Mid-Atlantic accent, not an English accent. It's a mixture of English and American. I presume that you don't notice the American part because you are American?
I think Buckley is used to intimidating his debating opponents and with Chomsky he didn't realise he was up against a massive, superior, intellect. Buckley behaves like an immature brat when he couldn't puncture holes in Chomsky's point of view. He looked furious when he realised Chomsky exposed his double standards on US foreign policy.
Hardly, Buckley won the major points of that debate and considering the subsequent history of the world since 1969, I would say that even the points Chomsky made then have been shown to be wrong. He makes a completely artificial distinction between the Truman Doctrine and the Marshall Plan because it doesn't support his argument. He claims that American troops were the only foreigners that participated in the Greek Civil War, and even though Buckley doesn't correct that, no such thing happened.
@aligborat Some of what you have written doesn't make sense, deliberate? Buckley adheres to a way of thinking that says"when we massacre, invade, kill and prevent Democracy it's ok, when They (insert enemy of choice - Commie, Chinese, Arab) do it, it's evil and wrong". The overthrow of democratically elected Governments in Nicaragua, very recently Somalia, and support for the worst of the Soviet Dictators, Ceaușescu, serve as good examples. But please, continue with your paucity of objectivity.
I'm sorry, the Taliban is a democracy? Hussein's Iraq? You can argue over the merits of invading them, certainly, but to claim they are democracies? Nicaragua under Ortega was not a democracy either, although not as bad as Iraq, the government did everything possible to suppress opposition and abuse it's power. Other than claiming I lack objectivity, your arguments are very similar to that of your hero, when pinned down on a point he changes the subject to something tangential to the main point.
Folks here seem to have a comprehension problem. Chomsky's world view is that Communist murderers and revolutionaries are the equivalent of Democrats. If Communist Revs are murdering people, that is okay because Capitalism also does.
In his mind, North Vietnam supporting guerillas in the South is VIETNAMESE trying to do decide on their own political system, rather than a campaign of murder. Same in Greece. Communists seizing control is Greeks deciding for themselves. It's nonsense.
@glezzery62 Good observation. While I'm largely with Chomsky in this debate, he lacks logical rigor. He thinks that US gov't should save foreigners from genocides but without econ interest. However, there is no rationale for risking life for a foreigner at all if not for money. If Chomsky is against 'interested' intervention, he should be against intervention in general. If Americans want to save a foreigners life, he can go to that country and fight or he can fund his favored faction. Simple!
@GravDuck I meant that in the context of intergovernmental relations. Most of our military intervention and foreign aid is due to the fact that there are foreign lobbyists who want a share of the pie, its just sold by the media afterwards as spreading democracy or some other crap. But I also said,
"If Americans want to save a foreigners life, he can go to that country and fight or he can fund his favored faction. Simple!" That should be a point of agreement between us.
Buckley nails him at around 16:30 or so. Greeks were interferred with, like South Vietnam was interferred...yadda yadda. No Communist aggression, no murder campaigns and terrorist acts. Chomsky is a classic Leftist idiot. Anything that reeks of Social Justice, including Communism is supported. America is BAD. Imperialist...
It's a lot of nonsense. There were certainly tens of thousands of dead South Vietnamese who were fighting bravely against Northern aggression.
And Chomsky refuted his argument and proved that he was ignorant about the history of the "insurgents" in Greece. Buckley then began to be sarcastic, proving that he knew he was losing.
Chomsky is one of these Leftist liars that uses terms differently whenever he likes. He equates America with Imperialism, when it has never fit that definition. Imperialistic, Imperial...it's the same fucking thing, smart ass. America never invades another country to rule it. Chomsky is an American hating weasel and a trickster.
Whilst I would with you if you infered that America is no longer an Imperialist power, it most certainly used to be. Forgetting about Vietnam, are we?
A bunch of leftist trash as usual. Buckley collapses Chomsky's entire schtick by pointing out that a state could be taken over without boots in the country. Chomsky says invading France was justified because an outside force had taken over the country. In Vietnam, an outside force tried initially to use indigenous forces to take over Vietnam, but required external forces. Chomsky is full of crap. He picks and chooses his own definitions and meanings whatever to his advantage. WFB crushes him.
" You do understand that sometimes a soldier can be as useful as a bushel of wheat, don't you?........." Classic Buckley!
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I am having trouble following along so I turned on the CC's. You all should try this. It instantly turns into a comedy. Apparently, the CC translator can't understand Buckley anymore than I can.
jmbutlernc62 2 weeks ago
You get the feeling that Buckley was into politics simply to try to make himself look smart.
pcgamer010 1 month ago
WFB: "If you want me to persue that digression I will (winks..)
NC: OK
Noam is the man. I've only just started to read his books. Why is he not required reading, starting in HS in the US? Oh wait, never mind.
Just look at WFB's body language to NC's. Completely defensive in every way. This was a kinder, gentler "no spin zone" from an earlier era but it's still the same. WFB is the company man, through and through. NC is showing everyone what's behind the curtain.
austntexan 1 month ago 2
Chomsky easily won this contest!
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The problem with Chomsky is he views all nations and leaders the same. To him Nazi Germany/Hitler and the Soviet Union/Stalin is the same as any American government and US President. He can't or seems willfully unable to distinguish between ideologies and behavior. I've read bio's of Truman and Stalin (to name just two), and any intelligent person could determine which is the monster in five seconds. For all his intellect he's morally colorblind.
motownmaniax 1 month ago
Gore Vidal said this about Buckley after his death:
"I thought hell is bound to be a livelier place, as he joins forever those whom he served in life, applauding their prejudices and fanning their hatred."
Yep.
ElJulioso 3 months ago
Buckley is a very smooth bullshitter
AppleMaster1 3 months ago
Buckley is master interrupter
honeymaru68 3 months ago
Chomsky wipped you ass Buckley!
RiseAgainstState 4 months ago 3
buckley ate a knuckle sangmich
boxermaf 4 months ago 4
Buckley is so arrogant. I bet he spends hours before a mirror to practice his eccentric mannerisms. He can't hold a candle to Noam's brilliant knowledge of political agenda. Bite me Buckley.
blueguitarblue 4 months ago
The New World Order (as it is erroneously known) is in reality the Anglo-American Alliance which has designs on ruling the planet for the next 10 centuries. Malthusian-engineered shortages of food, water, medicine, fuel & materiel (as well as perpetual war) will serve their common goal of reducing the Earth's population of 6,500 million to 500 million (as prescribed in granite on the Georgia Guide Stones).
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
Today's atheistic Darwinists/evolutionists are the high priests of corporate science. They sermonize & pontificate, from lecterns & in clumsily-written tomes, on the "over-population" dilemma and the necessity of, foisting upon a stupefied populace, eu-genic measures (sterilants & abortifacients) to curtail growth.
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
Defy Wayne Newton or die in the trying. Defy his gaze and join in the meat-shortage. Defy Wayne Newton's hardened will and eat a knuckle sandwich. That'll be the reward for you: the jiggers of jiggly ports & secret warrior in the secret war to civilize Angola.
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
THE GYNECOLOGY OF DARKNESS [abortogenic adj. : causing abortion : ABORTIFACIENT] — [“Out of the night, two cocks together crow, Cleaving the darkness with a silver blow.” — Edward Thomas (1878-1917)]
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
By the 22nd century cunt doctors & oceanographers will have wiped out one another; moles & voles will be indistinguishable as will the concepts of flammability & inflammability.
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
The mandatory castration of our dogs & cats in Volusia County, Florida swells the ranks of tranquil, peaceable pets.
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
Once we accept the propaganda of veterinarians that the surgical ablation of our dogs' & cats' testes & ovaries is of no more consequence than the removal of ornaments from a Christmas tree then we are primed to accept the same nonsense in regards to Human Beings. The ovaries & testes are integral in the regulation of metabolic function. Are your testicles, or ovaries, incidental, redundant, unnecessary and superfluous?
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
Fr. World Future Fund: The Death Toll in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War of 1898: The overall cost in human lives of American actions in the Philippines was horrific. One scholar has concluded concerning the American occupation that "In the fifteen years that followed the defeat of the Spanish in Manila Bay in 1898, more Filipinos were killed by U.S. forces than by the Spanish in 300 years of colonization. Over 1.5 million died out of a total population of 6 million."
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
"Edible: good to eat, and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm." — Ambrose Bierce [1842-1914?]
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
eugenism n -s : the combination of influences best suited to improve the hereditary qualities of a race or breed, esp. the human race (Fr. p. 783 of "Webster's Unabridged Dictionary," 1967)
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
The U.S. govt. sacrificed 3,000 soldiers at Pearl Harbor in 1941 to the Empire of Japan; the U.S. govt. poisons and adulterates our water with the waste product sodium fluoride and the blood intoxicant known as lithium (as well as innumerable heavy metals and pesticides). The U.S. govt. clouds the skies with aluminum oxide and barium salt. Murder is murder. The murdering of children is especially abhorrent.
AgonyInCrisis 5 months ago
On page 293 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: FAITH : acceptance, allegiance, assent, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credit, credulity, dependence, faithfulness, fealty, fidelity, hope, loyalty, reliance, stock, store, sureness, surety, troth, truth, truthfulness
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That video was put up on youtube in 2008 - Soccer AM started in 95, and started doing the crossbar challenge around 2006. Could you of got it any more wrong, you dumb shit.
MrSyrett 1 year ago
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
Also, why the fuck would we want to start the home nations league up? We've got nothing to prove. We've consistantly been better than you for the past 30 years. Better ranked, better record at qualifying - full stop. We just don't care bout you like you care about us. thats why you hate us every world cup you don't qualify
MrSyrett 1 year ago
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
@MrSyrett, Hey, Mr. English Grammar asshole, it's "...could you HAVE got it more...", and "...C O N S I S T E N T L Y..."
You're hardly the 'intelligible' super-intellect you perceive yourself to be.
Hey, english sheepdog-for-looks, CUM to my channel and see what American girls look like. I know that if I had to spend my life around women that look like what you're surrounded by, I would become a cyber asshole like you. Tsk tsk...
Oh, well, charlie, enjoy my channel.....
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
How ironic, some little prick brit with a computer shows us all how to behave in a "superior" way by diving into the electronic watercloset and acting like he doesn't stink.
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
Hey, @MrSyrett, You gormless muppet. You crooked-toothed asswipe. I see you get into these little "debates" all the time on YouTube. How's life over there in the Old Country? Spainish, Italian and French women are hot, but English women are like you, crooked teeth, chisled noses, and like you ungroomed english sheepheads, with untrimmed eyebrows which are about 3 cm long.
You fucking bloody Billy no-mate.
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
Hey, @MrSyrett, I'm so glad that you care to display 'social graces' here in the electronic toilet, also known as The Internet. That is so dysfunctional of you. It is so impressive that you need to establish your intellect here as an 'intelligible' person.
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
@herbertsa,
Hey, motherfucker:
"I hope that you have not to much children..."
Hey, Adolf, it seems that you not only have difficulty expressing yourself in English, you also have trouble understanding it.
So keep your fucking opinion to yourself.
You ausfahrt.
I'd like to fart on your aus.
So, Hansel, which are you, Woody Allen or Buckwheat?
You've opened the door to some dialogue with me; I'm ready and waiting to test your wit and intelligence. Let's get it on, Goebbels....
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
Here you see the most common mistake of persons in a discussion.
When Chomsky speaks, Buckley does NOT listen to him instead of this he is preparing his next monolog.
Thank you for this video and best regards from germany.
herbertsa 5 months ago
What a jerk Buckley is.
He is afraid of letting chomskys ideas develop and unfold and interupts him frequently with nonsense.
Arrogant and Ignorant, also very clearly hearable in his way of talking, stretching words and the sound of his voice.
beatsyndrom 5 months ago
Buckley just approaches this as if he is an all-knowing mastermind and hardly lets Chomsky make a point.
Mrmtjones 5 months ago
Chomsky is revered only by dweebo losers and homo scrawny buttfuckers. Most of those puny little 'cerebral' chomsky fans wear knee-high colored tube socks with shorts and white sneakers, and t-shirts that say "vote for pedro" or some shit like that.
Most of those who revere chomsky are fucking woody allen clones.
Uh, maybe I need to spell this out for you idiots -- the preceding was NOT a compliment.
Fuck
gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
@gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l
It is unbelievable how your comment disclosed your complete character.
I hope that you have not to much children, because for humankind it would be not very helpful if you were a fruitful man.
Sorry for my bumbling english and best regards from germany.
herbertsa 5 months ago
@gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l - congrats, you made your point - you're a unintelligible buffoon with all the social graces of a diseased chimp.
MrSyrett 5 months ago
you dont fuck with chomsky
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gj7l1O0ij49gq1l00O0l 5 months ago
Bill Buck is under the impression that Communism is in some kind of contrast with freedom... In all actuality, it would probably be the most free society.
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ehudnold9 5 months ago
Chomsky continually deals in examples....in facts...he remains calm and consistent and makes beautiful coherent distinctions between concepts and facts. He also concedes that which is unknown with an honest lightness of touch. Buckley on the other hand tries in vain to tie him up in wordplay and sounds utterly out of is depth. The days long since gone when I would turn up for an oral exam without preparation come into sharp focus when I watch buckley squirm here. This is an Epic mismatch.
connelly75 6 months ago
chomsky thinks that america was trying "colonize" indochina?
wow he belongs in the 60's.
newt0830 6 months ago
We talk like this right now. One side brings up facts and the other pulls a buckley. Strange eye flashes from buckley
mack2cool2000 6 months ago
Some of the people commenting must have no idea the contributions that Buckley made to the Conservative Movement in America as well as the political contributions he made to America. The clipboard is for taking notes, he's not reading from it, he's recalling Chomsky's previous comments. Buckley is the Father of the Conservative Movement, and he - as well as Chomsky - is a genius and made people think. Gah, how we need Buckley now during this term...
jcc7386 6 months ago
@jcc7386 The conservative movement is notorious for pushing ignorance. Count how many times buckley interrupted, or not even let Chomsky finish a complete sentence? He was the bill oreilly of his day. Conservatives are about the loudest voices being heard, not the more reasonable.
guitarded459 6 months ago
@guitarded459 I disagree. It's interesting dialogue, and Chomsky wasn't very diplomatic either. That's what happens when two savants debate. And I'd like to know your reasoning behind "the conservative movement is notorious for pushing ignorance [sic]." I can offer reasons that the liberal movement is responsible for socialism, such as: too much government control, overbearing federal regulation on banks, bailout with addendums attached, and I can go on, but I can't type anymore characters.
jcc7386 6 months ago
@Vagnigun go to a decent college.
shoney 6 months ago
BUCKLEY SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB PEICE OF SHIT AND GIVE CHOMSKY A CHANCE TO SPEAK YOU FUCKING REDNECK PIECE OF MOTHER FUCKING DUMB RETARD ASS BITCH
my1dea 6 months ago 2
@my1dea this was in 1969
peacebreaker22 6 months ago
@my1dea half that didnt make sense
LockedGT 6 months ago
@my1dea ...your complaining about someone being loud and not giving the other the chance to speak... so you type a childish all caps offensive message with every insulting word your malformed brain knows... wow.
Marveh 6 months ago
@Marveh *way to get your point across... moron
Marveh 6 months ago
@my1dea well you exhibit the typical articulation of the free thinknig liberal...good going...by the way make sure to tip the bartender when you leave
newt0830 6 months ago
"the world is a complex place" lol buckley got trolled
TheSmallAznChild 6 months ago 7
i like how buckley has to have a clipboard to read from. chomsky just goes hard in the paint
shadowfiend11 6 months ago 8
@shadowfiend11
That's because it's his programme and he's the host !
kzearo 2 months ago
god damn, buckley is an idiot.
amknafla 6 months ago 2
Buckley is an intellectual moron ! I don't think he makes one valid point ..
hughie131 6 months ago
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CmndrKooL 6 months ago
17:28 "May I complete a sentence?" I'm surprised he lasted so long before saying something like that...
CrippledHoboTV 6 months ago
Hutch Sent me Here
gamesyousef 6 months ago
i listen to this whole thing and at the end, didnt know what they even talked about
metalliumfan1 6 months ago
Buckley reminds me of a squirrel.
Mashoenima 6 months ago
@Vaguigun NO ONE CARES
acrossthesun1 6 months ago
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Hutch brought me here.
WeaselWJ 6 months ago 37
@Dogmangler He is back. His new channel is "JayEx23". :)
WeaselWJ 6 months ago
This is why I subscribe to Hutch! Chomsky's clear-eyed view on global power and what it actually does displays a tremendous faith in democracy and humanity. Buckley's obfuscation, evasion and general intellectual dishonesty displays a deep cynicism of democracy and of people in general. The corporate-controlled media/government will always need men like Buckley. The only time I ever liked him on TV was when he hosted "Brideshead Revisited" on Masterpiece Theatre.
MrWarwolf6 6 months ago
@Vagnigun i guess the same reason why we dont speak in grunts and stomps
nutsack666 6 months ago
@Vagnigun This isn't american talk....
robertocarlosibarra 6 months ago
Now go watch anything from Fox News.
WTF happened?
gahzeyboe 6 months ago
Why Hutch Why?
tpresident17 6 months ago 3
@tpresident17 Because Hutch is a well spoken and thoughtful individual.
Nivokius 6 months ago
@Nivokius well put sir
tpresident17 6 months ago
@tpresident17 Also, if he likes all these videos, it'll make him seem smarter.
Nivokius 6 months ago
@Nivokius good point in deed
tpresident17 6 months ago
@Nivokius hutch is a drug addict, hard scoping, faggot
nutsack666 6 months ago
@nutsack666 Smoking cigarettes makes you a drug addict? LMAO
Goo0rBad 6 months ago
@Goo0rBad It actually does, but I don't agree with nutsack666. Don't try to reply to trolls like him if you don't have a good point to say.
WeaselWJ 6 months ago
@nutsack666 Whoa whoa whoa, why all the Hutch hate?
Nivokius 6 months ago
@tpresident17 Because he is a fan of Chompsky.
WeaselWJ 6 months ago
hctuH
MisterPurpleKush 6 months ago
hutch didnt send me
xtermanater 6 months ago 6
Could Buckley look anymore evil?
TheRimDoctor 6 months ago
JUST CAUSE HUTCH LIKED THE VID DOESNT MEAN HE FUCKING SENT U GOD...... liking something is not a fucking link for ppl 2 go watch it...it just meaned he fucking liked it....
bigpapastin23 6 months ago
@bigpapastin23 He linked it on facebook.
Ballinlolz 6 months ago
HUTCH was here!
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dinosaursrex 6 months ago 5
You Know Chomsky gets loads of pussy
StuchFlex 6 months ago
What gun is that?
Chrisnobable 6 months ago 2
This is so mlg...
TheJakehunter 6 months ago
this is the best 1v1 quickscoping match.
xSmashHeaven 6 months ago 10
This is going to get SO much more attention now that Hutch has been here. :O
iETHOSi 6 months ago
I UNDERSTOOD ALMOST EVERYTHING.
Faintvirus 6 months ago
hutch? why XD
xElecTrixzZ 6 months ago
@xElecTrixzZ hutch is a fan of chomsky. do some research.
xSmashHeaven 6 months ago
@xSmashHeaven <------- fanboy?
xElecTrixzZ 6 months ago
@xElecTrixzZ no not really. i'm not a fanboy type of person. but in an interview with seannaners hutch says he's got great admiration for Chomsky. He usually agress with him, Chomsky is an intellectual beast, nuff said.
xSmashHeaven 6 months ago
@Vagnigun We do, just not generally on the internet. Televised debates are the domain of mature minds. The internet is the playground of the world and its children. On the one hand, it means that young minds are granted opportunity and access to information and literature that might normally be outside the social means or selections of their families. On the other hand, however, it means grudges, racism, xeno & homophobia, and religious bigotry are becoming worryingly normalised and widespread.
gillesibub 6 months ago
you feelin okay hutch?
ILykeColors 6 months ago
@Vagnigun black people
SaruJerry 6 months ago
aaaaw hutch, are you trying to look smart?:D
SaruJerry 6 months ago 4
@SaruJerry Does seeking anyting intellectual these days make you a smartass? Shut the fuck up
ultraviolence6655321 6 months ago
@ultraviolence6655321 i guess you are stale suit... i was joking, take you´re thumb out ur ass and have some fun.
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Why did Hutch favorite this?
TheBjscool 6 months ago 8
@TheBjscool i was about to say the same. didnt know hutch was into politics or ecomics
BEARARMZ 6 months ago
@BEARARMZ He is a fan of Chompsky.
WeaselWJ 6 months ago
@TheBjscool His is a fan of Noam Chompsky.
WeaselWJ 6 months ago
@WeaselWJ I heard... I don't understand one word of this though
TheBjscool 6 months ago
this was one of the most refreshing things i've seen so far on youtube, all that publicity crap and rebecca black this and justin beiber that, this was a nice step back to reality. even though its old,
outlawkelb 6 months ago
teabag the motherfuckers who are pro-war bastards. And I say that even if I volunteered for the army and wanna be a soldier for all my life. Invading 3rd world countries is an act of barbarism
SandmanCOD 6 months ago
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SandmanCOD 6 months ago
8:28 some humor... :S
JSoulstorm 6 months ago
7:10 and up is when Noam goes MLG... just saying.
JSoulstorm 6 months ago
William F. Buckley, Jr. ... One more proof that dumb republicans like him need to be schooled by Chomsky! As a German all I can say is that I truly hope that geniuses and truly patriots as Noam Chomsky will show those morons where they belong!
tuxedo55 6 months ago
the cooing,purring,winking and any of the other affectations buckley exibits are a sure sign the water is getting too deep for him.again and again,chomsky proves the more convincing and persuasive with his straight forward style and more pertinently ,content.buckley`s transparent obfuscations meander into no mans land and are left hanging..while chomsky tries again and again to redirect him to focus on the serious.
chomsky makes them all look like hacks.
hotstixx 6 months ago 2
Its great that a Classical Conservative like Bill Buckley could debate a Socialist Libertarian like Noam Chomsky. Two people who agree on almost nothing in a respectful and in an intelligent way.
FRSFreeStatePlus 6 months ago 2
@Vagnigun - sorry, that wasn't meant to be aimed at you
MrSyrett 6 months ago
@Vagnigun buckley is roundly whipped on ever point raised.
MrSyrett 6 months ago
@fromis111 -- come on, admit it, you mastur-debater, you either (1) want hot looking girls, or (2) you're a brown-dirt cowboy who putts from the rough.
If (1), let me make this clear to you: pretty girls / women think you're an ugly, grotesquely obese, bald smelly pig. Uh, news flash: hot girls aren't attracted to Buckwheat - Vidal - Chomsky - Mailer - etc obsessed "intellectuals."
If (2), well, just be sure to clean the fecal bits off the tip of your pickle when you're done.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
"stupid fucking COCK-whatever opinions..."
Wow, with writing like THAT, I think we've established that @fromis111 is NOT a chapter president for her local MENSA group.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
@fromis111, 180 channel views since April 8, 2006? Wow, fella, you REALLY have cultivated a loyal group of followers, haven't you?!
g17y5wb 7 months ago
Hi, @fromis111, how is your little 'debate champion' fantasy going there, eh, loser?
How good do YOU look in a swimsuit??
Have you been laid this week? This YEAR???
You sadly live in the house of mirrors created by meaningless losers, low-income, low net worth, low sexual pleasure (WITH OTHER HUMANS, THAT IS) 'smart' people who are too fucking foolish to see how we in the REAL world look at you chomsky v. buckwheat fans and laugh so hard that we blow Pepsi out our nostrils!!! Hahahah!
g17y5wb 7 months ago
While I'm out with a rather colorful group of individuals, most of whom appear on stage weekly in front of more than 10,000, who speak more languages than you will ever read, who fuck like monsters (and have a rather nice time doing so), YOU sit on your computer and challenge people to 'debates' and fantasize that you're that fuckhead chomsky and that you 'defeat' other people -- your enemies -- as if they're buckwheat, in some fantasy of the above video. You sad, sick, STUPID, homebound loser.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
"hatred for pseudo-intellectualism"...So, genius, motherfuck @fromis111, what, do you ADMIRE pseudo-intellectualism? You ARE retarded!!
Let me guess, you're canadian, too. You wanna play psychoanalyst? Here's a mirror for you gay little self: You are so confused by how you don't fit into any productive group of individuals so you deceive yourself into thinking you're 'smart' (har) and that THEREFORE you mean something to someone. WRONG on all counts, dipshit.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
Hey, fromis111, what's with your sexual deviancy? Why do you desperately substitute threats for 'debates' with others, as if you'll prove your manhood by 'outdebating' others? You are one sexually confused, falsely self-intelligent-perceiving freak.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
This is just logic vs. rethoric
barabbababoon 7 months ago
@mk9228, You're about as ignorant as they come. You PRETEND to be knowledgeable (..."I hate people with a 'BRITISH' accent... -- YOU DUMB BUTTFUCKER, it's called a Patrician accent--are you a RE-tard, or are you just plain IGNORANT, or are you STUPID, too??) and you express these opinions wrapped up in the pretense of being informed, when you are just another hoser canuck, puking this pseudo-intellectual crabshit.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
@g17y5wb You're either really petty and embittered (and are consumed by such a hatred for pseudo-intellectualism that you think it's the biggest problem since, I don't know, fascism?), or you are so profoundly self-confident and happy that you are completely unconcerned with the glaringly obvious hypocrisy of spending so much time criticizing people whose opinions you profess to value so little. But sadists don't tend to be happy, so I'm just utterly confused.
fromis111 7 months ago
@g17y5wb And don't just give me another one of your "Oh I'm just a petty little DICK-SMEGMA-SNIFFER who spends all his time MASTURBATING in his little basement and trying to impress people with his stupid fucking COCK-whatever opinions in his tiny little world of youtube blah blah blah"
Give me something or give me nothing at all!
fromis111 7 months ago
So I looked up "stiff prick" in Miriam Webster's dictionary, and there it was, a color photograph of noam "the mini-dick, woody allen clone" chomsky.
Fuck you all.
"Smart" yet oh, so stupid.
You got good grades in school when the other boys were getting pussy, and your little masturbating dickheads' personalities became completely woven around this pathetic idea that you're "smart", yet you were / are too fucking IGNORANT to understand that nobody fucking cares.
I love you.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
@g17y5wb The man you call a "mini dick woody allen clone" has made more contributions to linguistics and social activism than most anyone in the public eye. He's been at the forefront of criticism on foreign policy. I'm curious as to what your criticisms of Chomsky are? On a personal note you seemed to imply that the "smart kids" weren't getting pussy.....That's an argument straight out of middle school haha. Haven't heard talk like that since those times.
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MrLittletomdj 7 months ago
Buckley is so unbearably smarmy.
wallisfutunaduck 7 months ago
anyone else think william buckley is a cross between hannibal lecter and mr howell?
boredcrab2 7 months ago
Buckley is a tit
modeleagle 7 months ago
Good god what happened to intellectualism?
sugarfreelemonade 7 months ago 4
First time hearing, seeing Buckley... the arrogance and air of entitlement is sickening... a clear example of hegemony and a lackey ( Buckley ) who blindly follows for his bread.
govlover 7 months ago
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Okay, so I sat and tried to fold my legs into lotus position. But my hip popped out of its socket! Damn! It hurt like HELL! So I began moaning and groaning, but the other meditators around me thought I was chanting my mantra so they ignored me. Since I was already folded into the lotus position, I farted this rotten eggs scented bomb that wafted around the room. NOW they began paying attention to me. So then I just shit my pants, hoping that they'd call an ambulance...
g17y5wb 7 months ago
If Buckley was alive today, he'd be insisting that Socialism was bad because it didn't work but that "free markets" are good because even though they don't actually exist in practice, as a conceptual distinction, it is better than Socialism. Both are ideologies that when put in actual practice lead to great human suffering.
Pernoctate 7 months ago
Buckley your a dick! You go round in circles, constantly taking the conversation off point and you interject with facts that are "loosely" related to the subject as a whole but are practically irrelevant to the specific topic / point being discussed at the time. Bill O'Rielly has studied you well !!
tadhg964 7 months ago
Idiots here I see find communist backing chumsky to be something more than an irritating hair on the bottom of Buckley's shoe! I now see more clearly how the state of idiocy has brought us to a president named obama. I fear this country, as Friedman had warned 40 years ago, has gone to far into socialism to recover. You cannot save a country from itself, and those who do not even know what they are losing! It is sad but that idiots usually prevail over time! Maybe it is corruptied genes!?
vincentkjones1 7 months ago
@vincentkjones1 maybe its just the horrible nationalistic views of people such as yourself, maybe concentrate on your spelling and structure of your argument before commenting. buckley was an extremly well spoken individual, yet his arguments are steps below the relative logic of chomsky
joellyboyy 7 months ago
Buckley is absurdly pretentious and self-satisfied and ever so cultured and high and mighty, but the eyes flashing at 7:05 after "No, the people of Greece" seems to be an entirely primitive attempt at ape intimidation
grands1am 8 months ago
Where the fuck is Buckley now? Oh, right... thank Zeus for that.
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rjksoccer06 8 months ago
Heh, I might be the only person who likes both Chomsky and Buckley. But then, I'm the only neo-con leftist left alive, it appears...
DamLazyFuk 8 months ago
I laughed when I actually HEARD Buckley smile when Chomsky accidentally said "liberate," which makes me realize that even the brightest minds fall to word-play propagandizing.
Chomsky owned him. Buckley is a douche.
dipp123 8 months ago 3
Father of Neoconservatism vs. Father of American academic marxism and social democracy. Is there no one in the intellectual scene who advocates private property? How sad... :(
truevoice08 8 months ago
I hate when stupid people have a british accent... it just gives them some false sense of intelligence, chomsky owned this guy, but buckleys voice and facial expressions are soooooooooo annoying, wouldnt blame chomsky if he had decked the guy in the face.
mk9228 8 months ago
@mk9228
I myself would blame someone for clocking their debate partner unless reasonably provoked(reasonably meaning a reason other than the sound of someone's voice, or the look on their face), but that's just me.
And that is a Mid-Atlantic accent, not an English accent. It's a mixture of English and American. I presume that you don't notice the American part because you are American?
ejohnwright 8 months ago
I think Buckley is used to intimidating his debating opponents and with Chomsky he didn't realise he was up against a massive, superior, intellect. Buckley behaves like an immature brat when he couldn't puncture holes in Chomsky's point of view. He looked furious when he realised Chomsky exposed his double standards on US foreign policy.
BBOYMONI 8 months ago
Hardly, Buckley won the major points of that debate and considering the subsequent history of the world since 1969, I would say that even the points Chomsky made then have been shown to be wrong. He makes a completely artificial distinction between the Truman Doctrine and the Marshall Plan because it doesn't support his argument. He claims that American troops were the only foreigners that participated in the Greek Civil War, and even though Buckley doesn't correct that, no such thing happened.
aligborat 8 months ago
@aligborat Some of what you have written doesn't make sense, deliberate? Buckley adheres to a way of thinking that says"when we massacre, invade, kill and prevent Democracy it's ok, when They (insert enemy of choice - Commie, Chinese, Arab) do it, it's evil and wrong". The overthrow of democratically elected Governments in Nicaragua, very recently Somalia, and support for the worst of the Soviet Dictators, Ceaușescu, serve as good examples. But please, continue with your paucity of objectivity.
BBOYMONI 8 months ago 11
I'm sorry, the Taliban is a democracy? Hussein's Iraq? You can argue over the merits of invading them, certainly, but to claim they are democracies? Nicaragua under Ortega was not a democracy either, although not as bad as Iraq, the government did everything possible to suppress opposition and abuse it's power. Other than claiming I lack objectivity, your arguments are very similar to that of your hero, when pinned down on a point he changes the subject to something tangential to the main point.
aligborat 8 months ago
Folks here seem to have a comprehension problem. Chomsky's world view is that Communist murderers and revolutionaries are the equivalent of Democrats. If Communist Revs are murdering people, that is okay because Capitalism also does.
In his mind, North Vietnam supporting guerillas in the South is VIETNAMESE trying to do decide on their own political system, rather than a campaign of murder. Same in Greece. Communists seizing control is Greeks deciding for themselves. It's nonsense.
glezzery62 8 months ago
@glezzery62 Good observation. While I'm largely with Chomsky in this debate, he lacks logical rigor. He thinks that US gov't should save foreigners from genocides but without econ interest. However, there is no rationale for risking life for a foreigner at all if not for money. If Chomsky is against 'interested' intervention, he should be against intervention in general. If Americans want to save a foreigners life, he can go to that country and fight or he can fund his favored faction. Simple!
truevoice08 8 months ago
@truevoice08
"...there is no rationale for risking life for a foreigner at all if not for money"
Well that's not necessarily true is it?
I mean, say your next door neighbour had been gravely injured and needed immediate medical attention.
By your rational there would be no reason to prevent his death if not for monetary gain.
Money should not be the motivation for preventing death.
However if I misunderstood your post please reply telling me so -- I can be a bit of an ass at times.
GravDuck 8 months ago
@GravDuck I meant that in the context of intergovernmental relations. Most of our military intervention and foreign aid is due to the fact that there are foreign lobbyists who want a share of the pie, its just sold by the media afterwards as spreading democracy or some other crap. But I also said,
"If Americans want to save a foreigners life, he can go to that country and fight or he can fund his favored faction. Simple!" That should be a point of agreement between us.
truevoice08 8 months ago
Buckley got owned at the 8 minute mark.
AntonBatey 8 months ago
Buckley nails him at around 16:30 or so. Greeks were interferred with, like South Vietnam was interferred...yadda yadda. No Communist aggression, no murder campaigns and terrorist acts. Chomsky is a classic Leftist idiot. Anything that reeks of Social Justice, including Communism is supported. America is BAD. Imperialist...
It's a lot of nonsense. There were certainly tens of thousands of dead South Vietnamese who were fighting bravely against Northern aggression.
glezzery62 8 months ago
@glezzery62 dumb cunt
chelseafc529 8 months ago
@glezzery62
And Chomsky refuted his argument and proved that he was ignorant about the history of the "insurgents" in Greece. Buckley then began to be sarcastic, proving that he knew he was losing.
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@glezzery62
Shut the fyck up
SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 18 hours ago
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glezzery62 8 months ago
Chomsky is one of these Leftist liars that uses terms differently whenever he likes. He equates America with Imperialism, when it has never fit that definition. Imperialistic, Imperial...it's the same fucking thing, smart ass. America never invades another country to rule it. Chomsky is an American hating weasel and a trickster.
glezzery62 8 months ago
@glezzery62
Whilst I would with you if you infered that America is no longer an Imperialist power, it most certainly used to be. Forgetting about Vietnam, are we?
BelfastAtheist 8 months ago
@BelfastAtheist
And Hawaii, Philippines, Puerto Rico
genovesachx 8 months ago
A bunch of leftist trash as usual. Buckley collapses Chomsky's entire schtick by pointing out that a state could be taken over without boots in the country. Chomsky says invading France was justified because an outside force had taken over the country. In Vietnam, an outside force tried initially to use indigenous forces to take over Vietnam, but required external forces. Chomsky is full of crap. He picks and chooses his own definitions and meanings whatever to his advantage. WFB crushes him.
glezzery62 8 months ago