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  • I believe what has been said has some level of truth in it. However, I live on another side of the language boundaries. My perspectives can be from another angle. I have written on Codes of reality. If any one is interested, they can google search for: Ved Codes of reality! What is language?

  • hmm...I just learned something new today. Thanks ThinkAthiest.

  • The genetic code is information. It isn't unfair to call that a language in the broadest sense.

  • lol@Cujoh Humans are the only know creature to speak in languages... that humans understand. Animals speak languages, they're just not human-like. Don't discount their ability to communicate.

  • The unicorn was totally hitting in the girl...

  • Explaining basic facts to morons who can't do a five cents of thinking for themselves... or just thinking for the sake of it for that mather.

  • so in this context, the one "reading" and "storing" the language of DNA is the replicating cell itself right? Without the cell the DNA is just a long chain molecule floating in the sea, with nothing to "read" it it's meaningless.

  • @wakeangel2001 "Without the cell the DNA is just a long chain molecule floating in the sea, with nothing to "read" it it's meaningless."

    You must have never watched Law & Order or Bones or any of those cop shows. The sequence alone can tell you whether two people are related, what kind of animal it is, even what part of the world the animal's ancestors came from.

  • @sarabellumm but that's because someone is reading it, I know all the awesome stuff we can do with DNA, but my point was that it's just another molecule if nothing is there to read it, whether the thing reading it is a living cell or a scientist. Also the scientist wouldn't exist if there wasn't a cell to read that DNA first.

    btw, I LOVE CSI and other forensic shows, I even watched the original run of the new detectives back when it was on the discovery channel, before CSI existed.

  • @wakeangel2001 "my point was that it's just another molecule if nothing is there to read it,"

    Which is true for any book or newspaper. It is just thin tree bark unless someone is there to read it. They doesn't mean Dawkins book or a scientific textbook doesn't contain information in printed language form, just because it is an unread copy. A tree falling in the forest does produce sound waves, even if no one hears it. A book or DNA helix does contain information, whether read or not.

  • @sarabellumm well yeah, of course it has information, but without a reader that information is meaningless.

  • @wakeangel2001 "but without a reader that information is meaningless."

    All language is meaningless without a reader or hearer. You aren't distinguishing the information in DNA strands from any other language medium, whether book, newspaper, speech or broadcast.

  • @sarabellumm I never intended to distinguish DNA from any other kind of language, I was agreeing with the video, which described DNA as a language that is read by something, in this case a living cell.

  • @wakeangel2001 " I was agreeing with the video, which described DNA as a language that is read by something,"

    And I am pointing how how stupid that sentence is because every language has to be read by something. Why not just call it a language? There isn't any language that communicates anything without being read by something.

  • @wakeangel2001 nothing is actually being read though... it is just a series of cascading chemical reactions.

  • So somehow the abrahamic god spoke words and things came into existence, except Human are the only known creature to speak in languages, and are very different everywhere you went. Food for thought

  • What exactly is "meaning" and why can the DNA molecule not store it, but molecules in a brain or computer somehow can?

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  • Thanks for your upboats! :)

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