This was a short mickey mouse track, on a big fast track the GSX-R would destroy the Ducati. The GSX-R couldn't show it's power on a little track like this.
@FORDboy357 Thanks for being specific, I suppose. If you watch the video. You shouldn't need to ask me about where he said it was a track. Just read your past messages. I think you've been confused. You're now in a circle information.
All sport bikes are irrelevant on the road. I'm pretty sure people are not buying them because they need them. They buy them because because they want them. So do you want 1000cc or not? You will never need it.
@ferrarithedude I did all that nearly a year ago, but I was 18 so it was £3500 a year insurance for a 2010 Ninja 250R! The bike was less, £3100 though it was brand new. Cost me just under a grand when all said and done I reckon to get a full license. If you manage to save your pennies I do recommend the 250R. Great bike definitely the better option than jumping straight onto the bigger bikes.
A lot of the Japanese sport bikes are high revving and yes more suited for the race track. A super bike on the public roads is a waste of money and horse power that will rarely be used. Give me a bike with the low end torque and hp such as the triumph triples any day over a super sport. I'm sorry but the two cylinder sport bikes sound like crap.
@nitro3014 lol thats exactly what a literbike has. MOAR torque. you can short shift a literbike at 5k. (relatively low considering) and have plenty of power on tap. no need to rev it to the sky unless your at a track day like in this vid. and twins sound incredible btw.
@jsmorel86 eh, idk. the sound of a twin can grow on you, but i own one (kawasaki 180 parallel twin), and id take the sound of a triple or 4 banger any day
Do not start/buy a 125 or 250. I rode a Kawasaki KX-80 for one week and went out and bought my 2006 ZX6R, rode, and adapted to the bike just fine. If you buy a 125 or 250 you're gonna bite yourself in the ass because honestly...its not a lot of power and thats money you could have used to buy a 600. For a 600 you're getting all around good power, nothing too extreme and the power is there. Do yourself a favor, if you're going to get into sportbikes....start at a 600...it's the happy medium.
Deffo when you can get just as much fun out of an old GSXR 600 SRAD muhah - I know I went up against one a couple of times. I have a vid on my channel GSXR600 vs GSXR1000. Only a short blast but it shows the similar acceleration! At least under those conditions.
ive gone from a gsxr1000 to a gsx650f. my fuel economy got worse its way too heavy and struggles a bit on acceleration. Its bags of fun in corners though. You need 1000cc bikes, they just work better in *all* conditions, even shit weather like snow the light weight is better.
Keep coming across issues with Suzuki's Brakes. Everyone keeps saying that there not too good .. Want a GSXr 750 maybe a K6 or 7 next season .!!! Maybe not so much now
BTW I've not long passed my test and have a CBR600 f1 at the min.. Is this brake issue a common fault ???!?!?!
@andrewp303 Space suit? Are you referring to his leathers? Unlike you, he's a professional rider, so he wears leathers in case he wrecks at high speeds. What do you think the appropriate attire for riding a sportbike is? Daisy dukes, a t-shirt and sandals? Fuck off.
so let me know if I have this right, I can a) get a bmw 1000 for 11k the champion bike on any review almost, or b) any of this bikes that are around that price or c) get a 2a hand bmw... for less hummmm
@andrewp303 If I was him, I'd rather look like a fag on a spacesuit than to have road authorities scraping my ass or my back off the pavement if I crashed.
I don't think an 848 would be as fun in the Diavel as my 1200 Testestruttah. Chop off 100 lbs and change up the general design, and the 848 wouldn't be a bad idea. No motorcycle NEEDS more power than the 675, 750, or 848 are producing, but it sure is hella fun on the back roads and track.
Irrelevant? tecnically speaking perhaps, but then most 600cc bikes with 100+hp engines can be considered irrevalant for many riders. imho its a sliding scale. its hard to be too analytical when ones favorite pastime consist of riding a motorvehicle where your private parts are centemeters away from inflamable liquid and your head can serve as a crashbumper.
massive engined bikes have always been irrelevant on the road really, who needs a fireblade on the road... other than if you really, really want your license torn up
@ferrarithedude Dude. It cost me $150 for a riding class and license, then just buy a used bike off Craigslist or something for $1500 and ride that for a year while saving up for what you really want.
do the cbt, practice on YOURSELF for 6 months (In this time you can save more money for your ninja), dont rent a bike or have training as you trained yourself and have your own bike, then do mod1 and 2. im about to do mod1 soon, my theory is 18th feb
@ferrarithedude mate do a intense course over 5 days for £600 then go out an get a supersports bike on finance :) thats the route i took and havent looked back since. dont waste your time with a 125/250. at the end of the day treat the bike with respect and dont ride beyond your limits and you`l be fine.. ride like a tool, and you`l get bit on the ass bigtime no matter what size bike you get..
@ferrarithedude well, you live in a country that doesnt want people doing anything for themselves. i recently got into motorcycling, and i spent around 1500 USD for a ninja 500, insurance, registration, all that good stuff.
Yeah but British riders are much MUCH better than Yank riders imho. Old Brit riders ride BMW GS' and like going on properly long rides into the mountains and across Europe. Old Yank riders like riding their Harlies 5 mi to the bar wearing gay fetish gear. Young Brit riders like doing trackdays & riding knee-down on B-roads. Young Yank riders (save a few who mostly live in Cali) think that riding in a t-shirt to the bar, doing wheelies is "hella cool bro" I kno where id rather be
@StigRossi hahahahha, what the FUCK are you talking about? youre just shitting out negative stereotypes about riders as facts about all americans, and making british riders sound like angels. your head is so far up your ass im not even gonna try to argue this one out.
I've lived in the UK and I've lived in the States (Chicago) and in my EXPERIENCE this is the case. Fair enough that it may not be true for ALL parts of the States but I think its generally true. For example, filtering is legal everywhere in the UK but it isn't in teh US other than California and filtering takes a lot more observation than just sitting at lights. Hence UK riders learn to observe a bit more. Thats reasonable isn't it?
@StigRossi For your information there are plenty of real riders in america that truly live for the corners, ride 12 months out of the year, wear proper gear, and do trackdays. I've seen plenty of videos of "much better brit riders" popping clutch wheelies on public roads and riding recklessly but I don't use those few videos to judge an entire country. So keep your opinions to yourself.
Did u read my above comment? And oh the irony of an American trying to censor speech (hint: its one of the Amendments to the constitution). How many states in the Union have helmet laws? A minority. I'm no gear nazi and I've ridden lidless b4 but im willing 2 bet that the majority of the no-lid crowd are mostly fat posers on loud annoying Harlies.
@StigRossi There is no above comment. Not trying to censor you but I take offense to you generalizing my entire country and saying that riders in your country are better. It's your opinion and it's a poor one. Bikers are supposed to stick together, we have enough trouble trying to not get run over by cars, we don't need to be fighting amongst ourselves.
Its just that in my travails to the United States, I, an ethnic minority on a rented BMW GS didn't sadly find much brotherhood amongst the mostly Harley riding bikers in bars that I encountered. There were guys on sportsbikes certainly but they were more interested in pulling wheelies than anything else
@ferrarithedude My Cbt cost me £75, had 3 years experience on a 125cc, no lessons, took the test and passed 1st time, test cost me about £110. Insurance for my 400cc is like £550 a year, and thats an import sports bike.
I think a lot of people who state how much Ducati's are better are judging based on what they look like. Not how they are to the rider. Watch someone will buy a Duc and hate it cause it doesn't have anything up top. And the Way it feels in comparison to the 4's.
many of our bikers using their superbike on the road..they can spend their times 24 hours on the road.. if u decided to get the 1000cc bike,you will satisfy with it.. if u get the 600cc bikes,it will no longer....... because you will upgrde!!
information and opinion are always useful, presentation skills...well I don't want Top Gear type cabaret.....and what's this age thing some people are going on about ? Young ,old,middling its ..................oops forgotten what I was going to say.......well I am over 30.
@zypp33 i'm not saying they should be all over the top and like top gear but this guy dosent even look or sound remotely interested in the subject and makes no attempt to even try. reminds me of when the really socially awkward kid in your class had to do a presentation and would just rush out their premade script as fast as possible
I disagree, 600s and 1000s are much more fun than anything inbetween, I dont care for riding at 100mph 1 handed from manchester to france and back, I just want something which likes to ride on one wheel and sounds like an F1 car
@ProbablyCoolerThanU 600s are annoying on the road. My triple's battery took a dump this morning so I was stuck with the CBR600. God damn is that thing gutless and uncomfortable. The only reason I can think of why people ride them anywhere but a race track is not knowing any better.
apparently the brakes on the 750 are not that good compare to 849 even if both have Brembo!!! not to mention that in 2009 R1 was beating the Fireblade, two years later, same bikes, same magazine R1 comes behind the Fireblade.....WHAT A TWAT!!!
The fact that the V-twin bike outperformed the Inline four on real road conditions was no surprise to me. I own an SV650 and while on track conditions my bike will get left behind a 600cc supersport, on most any real road that doesn't look like some mythical riding heaven from off an advert from a motorcycle magazine, my SV650 will keep up with or outperform the supersport 80% of the time, and that's entirely due to the way V-twins naturally make their power.
Tell that to Casey Stoner, Nicky Hayden, Valentino Rossi, Carlos Checa, and all the other riders that have taken these "pieces of junk" to the podium.
Have you ever owned or ridden a Ducati? I'm gonna guess not.
@player549 Everything thats cool and not cookie cutterish is expensive and hard to maintain, hot rods, super cars, being married to an Italian, six pack abs, etc. Just because you like the cheap road doesn't mean the Ducati sucks, people who own them or buy one knows what they are getting into. If they don't then they are retarded. Ducati's aren't real practical in the first place, they're all about having fun, track days, and standing out of the crowd.
@frozenskipper Sorry, just because its Japanese doesn't mean its good. I've owned two Suzukis in my life. Yes one wasn't a GSXR it was an RM, but I tell you what. That thing was a piece of shit, and the other was a car. Also a piece. Never would I waste my money on a Suzuki again. I also had a Nissan, always in the shop for electrical problems. Now I own a KTM, best damn dirtbike I've ever had. When I get my street bike, I'm going Euro again, not to mention its way better looking!
@rippdogg156 Well, you're right. I guess Suzuki isn't known for being the bast of the japanases brands :/ My Honda CR '03 and my older Honda '01 still putts and goes though ;) What Nissan was it?
@aluisious Such a ridiculous argument for sooo many reasons! I'll list some....1st they are comparing a V-twin with a an inline 4. 2nd the bikes have different size motors so that's not helping anything. 3rd v-twins should have more torque (what he said the gsxr lacks) with a flatter power band, while inlines peak. 4th Ducati cost more to maintain so in the long run you spend more. It's all about preference!
On the racetrack a 600 will do very well...maybe better than 1000 cc. since it is easier to ride, more forgiving. But outside, in the real world, a 1000 cc is always a better option since it has more grunt, usable low revs and it is more stable at high speeds. The drawback of the 1000 cc is that maintenance, taxes, insurance etc. cost more. Personally, I am happy with my 600 cc...
Im glad they didnt side with Suzuki. I have yet to see a Gixxer do anything in professional racing. and survives selling to Ghetto kid riders here in the states. Honda and Yamaha forever! And Ducati for my dreams!
On the racetrack a 600 will do very well...maybe better than 1000 cc. since it is easier to ride, more forgiving. But outside, in the real world, a 1000 cc is always a better option since it has more grunt, usable low revs and it is more stable at high speeds. The drawback of the 1000 cc is that maintenance, taxes, insurance etc. cost more. Personally, I am happy with my 600 cc...
@flmclau its not what you ride but how you ride that determines if you are a "REAL MAN" as you put it. a decent bike rider on a 250 CC will smoke a retard on a liter bike in the twisties. Straight line shit dont matter coz you cant use all that power without serious legal ramifications.So stop trying to make up for your shortcomings by jumping on a big bike, I'll still have bigger balls at the end of the day
@kps142 i have been 180 + mph on my ducati D16 rr in my pajamas . only a helmet on a normal 2 lane road . i think my hog came out the fly at one point ^^
@aluisious most of us dont have access to tracks and the mountains are the best we manage. I use my bike to commute everyday, pretty sure I got more experience on a motorcycle over the last 15 yrs of riding than you on your precious track. Bike riding isnt about riding on tracks, its a vehicle, use it and respect it as one and not just as a toy on the track
@kps142 None of that changes the fact that riding competitively on public roads is stupid and dangerous. I didn't say that bikes were about tracks, but competitive riding certainly is.
@moosetacosR6 - Well you might very well if one was an in-line four and the other was 90deg v-twin. They produce the goods differently and a short stroke multi cylinder engine can rev higher than a big twin can, so it makes more top end power. The comparison is valid.
@moosetacosR6 - Well you might very well if one is an in-line four and the other is a 90deg v-twin. They produce the power differently; a short stroke 4 cylinder engine can rev higher than a big twin can, so it makes more top end power. The comparison is a valid one.
@ibanezjeff28 I love the reviews but I really dont think that majority of riders will feel the major differances between the top sport bikes aprat from the standard handling and the obvios power differences.
99% of bikers will never get the full potential out of their bikes and bikes will normally have more ability than the rider.... I dont see the point of getting brand new groundbreaking bikes.... keep it real guys!
Oh , and another thing. I have ridden these sports bikes, and I'll tell you summat, they just about ride themselves, they are so well engineered, with sooo muc electronics,so much design into the chassis, that any "monkey" can buy and ride it,and that is the trouble if you ask me. You young guys don't know how lucky you are, you all zap past on the straights, but I always catch you in the bendy stuff. Now if a bloke was capable of hustling bikes thru bends way back then,you knew that HE was good
@staryjanek I agree, I love bikes to scare the shit outta me. Ive always ridden older bikes. I ride an old zx750at the moment, you can see it on my channel but I have no problem in leaving behind the newer shit on the twisties.... even though its almost 30kgs heavier and 50bhp less power.
@staryjanek sports bikes that ride themselves!!??....."young guys!!??" listen to yourself my friend. your either A: very bitter about being an older gentlemen? or B: jealous about "young guys" getting the benefit of the last 30 to 40yrs of technological advancement?? its each to there own, were supposed to be a biking community? its slowly being lost with petty arguments, try to be a little more open minded and forgiving in future.
@staryjanek its quite simple, you give respect....you get it back. instead of having a go at the younger generation of bikers, try to engage with them and understand them better, only then can we move forward as a biking community. lets not end up like car drivers eh? hating each other and getting road rage and fighting with each other! were better than that!!! oh and i am one of the "young guys" you refer to. stay safe my friend :-)
@staryjanek and u just a angry old fuck who needs to learn to respect us "young guys" sure we got awesome bikes. and im pretty damn sure i could out ride your ass in a corner if i slaped road tires on my rm250 dirtbike.
@dirtandsnowallday Lol you hypocritical fuck- what's the respect shown in " u just a angry old fuck who needs to learn to respect"? Just pointing that out.
MMmhh well I've been riding since 1968, never owned a "sports bike" , WTF is a sports bike anyway ? In my day you had bikes, then suddenly we got "Sports bikes". Well, can I tell you that I would be happy if every one of these bikes disappeared off the roads, happy for them to be on tracks. BUT every spring & summer I get hacked of by a swarm of "sports bike" riders scr@wing up the roads I love to ride, why ? Beacuse they treat the roads as race tracks that's why, take up extreme sports, please.
All this crying and whingeing! CC isn't everything and if it's all you see that's important in an engine, then you need to get your head corrected. If you want something changed, do something about it, youtube crying about "political masters" gets nothing changed...
Nice bikes, but what an awful track to try them out on, you were hardly out of 2nd gear lol. I could have given them a better test around my local Tesco's car park :p
Speed limits = tax collection. It's a way for our corrupt governments to make money. If there was proof more people died because of speed limits, they still wouldn't take them away because our corrupt, evil and despotic governments care more about making money (which they skim a large part for themselves, hence why politicians don't earn much publicly but always seem to be rich..hmm...) than saving lives. Look at Iraq/Afghanistan...sending citizens to die FOR MONEY/OIL.
This was a short mickey mouse track, on a big fast track the GSX-R would destroy the Ducati. The GSX-R couldn't show it's power on a little track like this.
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jevintherockingguy 1 day ago
Stay in your lane. Jesus. That's (one of the many reasons) how riders get killed.
FORDboy357 5 days ago
@FORDboy357 It's a track.
Gollsodia 4 days ago
@Gollsodia Did you watch the video? Tracks don't have guardrails in turns.
FORDboy357 3 days ago
@FORDboy357 He says it's a track in the video.
Gollsodia 3 days ago
@Gollsodia Not at the beginning. At the end they are on a track. There is no race track in the world that goes around a volcano.
FORDboy357 2 days ago
@FORDboy357 Thanks for being specific, I suppose. If you watch the video. You shouldn't need to ask me about where he said it was a track. Just read your past messages. I think you've been confused. You're now in a circle information.
Gollsodia 2 days ago
All sport bikes are irrelevant on the road. I'm pretty sure people are not buying them because they need them. They buy them because because they want them. So do you want 1000cc or not? You will never need it.
Pooshooter5k 1 week ago 3
He said that track was bumpy.. Yeah right, that track is a peace of shit... I'll take it if was mine though..lol
SDkawi6 2 weeks ago
to each there own.
nitro3014 2 weeks ago
takes off on the duc... he's riding the gixxer lol
CropDuster33 2 weeks ago
why you no yamaha r6?
CropDuster33 2 weeks ago
Are 1000cc sports bikes irrelevant?
kind of a dumbass title
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@ferrarithedude I did all that nearly a year ago, but I was 18 so it was £3500 a year insurance for a 2010 Ninja 250R! The bike was less, £3100 though it was brand new. Cost me just under a grand when all said and done I reckon to get a full license. If you manage to save your pennies I do recommend the 250R. Great bike definitely the better option than jumping straight onto the bigger bikes.
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PhillStotan1 2 weeks ago
Excellent review. I will keep my 750 though.
Beesky505 2 weeks ago
If you want too ride. You will.
If you don't. You won't.
LucianLycan1313 2 weeks ago
A lot of the Japanese sport bikes are high revving and yes more suited for the race track. A super bike on the public roads is a waste of money and horse power that will rarely be used. Give me a bike with the low end torque and hp such as the triumph triples any day over a super sport. I'm sorry but the two cylinder sport bikes sound like crap.
nitro3014 2 weeks ago
@nitro3014 lol thats exactly what a literbike has. MOAR torque. you can short shift a literbike at 5k. (relatively low considering) and have plenty of power on tap. no need to rev it to the sky unless your at a track day like in this vid. and twins sound incredible btw.
jsmorel86 2 weeks ago
@jsmorel86 eh, idk. the sound of a twin can grow on you, but i own one (kawasaki 180 parallel twin), and id take the sound of a triple or 4 banger any day
pepene93 5 days ago
yes
CleverEditing 2 weeks ago
mv agusta f3
tristan17schulz 2 weeks ago
Triumph Daytona 675R :)
crazydavemma 3 weeks ago
im a lazy rider so yes i NEED my 1000cc,
ozstriker1984 3 weeks ago
Start at a 600 and if your confidence builds up and you feel ready...then go buy a 1000cc...
SAKIGP1 3 weeks ago
Do not start/buy a 125 or 250. I rode a Kawasaki KX-80 for one week and went out and bought my 2006 ZX6R, rode, and adapted to the bike just fine. If you buy a 125 or 250 you're gonna bite yourself in the ass because honestly...its not a lot of power and thats money you could have used to buy a 600. For a 600 you're getting all around good power, nothing too extreme and the power is there. Do yourself a favor, if you're going to get into sportbikes....start at a 600...it's the happy medium.
SAKIGP1 3 weeks ago
Throw a Triumph Speed Triple in there and it's a party...
kylecpcs 3 weeks ago
On my R6 for just plpd my first year is nearly 900$.. redic..
ReconNineSCII 3 weeks ago
for the record NO Gixxer gets to park in my driveway or in front of my house :D
TheJordanGraff 3 weeks ago
I'll stick with my Daytona 675R and my Bimmer S1000RR thnx
TheJordanGraff 3 weeks ago
Deffo when you can get just as much fun out of an old GSXR 600 SRAD muhah - I know I went up against one a couple of times. I have a vid on my channel GSXR600 vs GSXR1000. Only a short blast but it shows the similar acceleration! At least under those conditions.
krellon 3 weeks ago
I am in love with ducatti!
xReckedEmx 4 weeks ago
ive gone from a gsxr1000 to a gsx650f. my fuel economy got worse its way too heavy and struggles a bit on acceleration. Its bags of fun in corners though. You need 1000cc bikes, they just work better in *all* conditions, even shit weather like snow the light weight is better.
markmywords312 4 weeks ago
wow it's not raining in an mcn video
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 uk weather m8...
IGNentertainmenI 3 weeks ago
You know they have lots of money when they go to a volcano just to get away from the rain :P lol
spyeyeklom1 1 month ago
I fail to understand the title of this video.
jarjarlol 1 month ago
Keep coming across issues with Suzuki's Brakes. Everyone keeps saying that there not too good .. Want a GSXr 750 maybe a K6 or 7 next season .!!! Maybe not so much now
BTW I've not long passed my test and have a CBR600 f1 at the min.. Is this brake issue a common fault ???!?!?!
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@andrewp303 Space suit? Are you referring to his leathers? Unlike you, he's a professional rider, so he wears leathers in case he wrecks at high speeds. What do you think the appropriate attire for riding a sportbike is? Daisy dukes, a t-shirt and sandals? Fuck off.
SteelCityDucati 1 month ago
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Dry track, same tires, same rider, multiple laps. This is the way all comparisons should be done. Nice job, MCN.
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SteelCityDucati 1 month ago
so let me know if I have this right, I can a) get a bmw 1000 for 11k the champion bike on any review almost, or b) any of this bikes that are around that price or c) get a 2a hand bmw... for less hummmm
thepro08 1 month ago in playlist Mais vídeos de motorcyclenewsdotcom
nice space suit, fag
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SteelCityDucati 1 month ago
@andrewp303 If I was him, I'd rather look like a fag on a spacesuit than to have road authorities scraping my ass or my back off the pavement if I crashed.
Stuntman175 1 month ago
Of course we do we all know we want a Triumph daytona 1000 or a speed triple R version ;)
dreadly101 1 month ago
I don't think an 848 would be as fun in the Diavel as my 1200 Testestruttah. Chop off 100 lbs and change up the general design, and the 848 wouldn't be a bad idea. No motorcycle NEEDS more power than the 675, 750, or 848 are producing, but it sure is hella fun on the back roads and track.
kuhlka 1 month ago
SuperBikes are one of the most desired bikes.Look at the WSBK, at the Tourist Trophy races.Do you imagine if they haven't been manufactured ?
Prekasvacha 1 month ago
fuck litter bikes 25 mpg , no thanks...
denizio20 1 month ago
@denizio20 My Diavel gets 38+mpg on the freeway. Only time I get less than 30 is when I'm flogging it from light-to-light in the city.
kuhlka 1 month ago
The reviews of the 848 and GSXR are spot on. Realistically you don't need more than one of these on the road.
1000cc 4 cylinder bikes are OTT for road riding. You don't even need to get out of 1st on the motorway.
Last 1000cc machine I rode was a RSV4 Factory APRC. Stupidly fast and the traction control kept kicking in when coming out of the corners.
TychoCelchu 1 month ago
Irrelevant? tecnically speaking perhaps, but then most 600cc bikes with 100+hp engines can be considered irrevalant for many riders. imho its a sliding scale. its hard to be too analytical when ones favorite pastime consist of riding a motorvehicle where your private parts are centemeters away from inflamable liquid and your head can serve as a crashbumper.
mac163 1 month ago
what about lap times???
adxtriple 1 month ago
Shit in SC and at my age I can't afford insurance for a CBR600RR no less one of these three!
onteamplanb 3 months ago
Yamaha R1 is the queen...period
VitorVitoriaBaia 3 months ago
i like the fire blade x)
nokia26300 5 months ago
easy peasy. like bangers and mash.
TheSuperMotoHooligan 5 months ago
massive engined bikes have always been irrelevant on the road really, who needs a fireblade on the road... other than if you really, really want your license torn up
Reincarnhate925 5 months ago
Give me the fireblade any given day
airpd1983 5 months ago
1k's and up are still relevant for racing on the freeway doing rolls and serious holeshot/digs- street wise
Ryknfjor 5 months ago
fuckk, that ducatti sounds damn good.
tanoAE86 6 months ago
i really want to become a biker, but due to the costs of CBT, tests, renting bikes, actually learning to ride!
to start off thats £1,150, then the bike, i want a Ninja 250R, thats around £3,000
insurence, £950 ish.... will SOMEONE cut me a break :(
ferrarithedude 6 months ago 11
@ferrarithedude 950 for a ninja 250?? lol cost me £81 here in the states for a year. and that's when I was 18?
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kylecpcs 3 weeks ago
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@ferrarithedude Dude. It cost me $150 for a riding class and license, then just buy a used bike off Craigslist or something for $1500 and ride that for a year while saving up for what you really want.
kylecpcs 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude get a 600 and restrict it, like an sv650s, easy to restrict, cheap insurance, cheap to buy
Kyr4x 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude lol, what i'm doing is/done...
do the cbt, practice on YOURSELF for 6 months (In this time you can save more money for your ninja), dont rent a bike or have training as you trained yourself and have your own bike, then do mod1 and 2. im about to do mod1 soon, my theory is 18th feb
G00g284 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude
Its not that bad im 18 and i live in NZ
and i bought a bike when i was 17.
and i know that our Currency rate is very differant
but it shouldnt stop you from geting a nice bike.
Buy second hand if need be, and lessons are not esential unless you have no experience in my opinion.
But i have found lots of great advice on this channel.
Tevibru 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude Bit of advice start on a 125.
mappy456 3 weeks ago
@mappy456 the ninja 250s slower than most older 125's
mark675 3 weeks ago
@mark675 Lmao thats irrelevant.
mappy456 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude mate do a intense course over 5 days for £600 then go out an get a supersports bike on finance :) thats the route i took and havent looked back since. dont waste your time with a 125/250. at the end of the day treat the bike with respect and dont ride beyond your limits and you`l be fine.. ride like a tool, and you`l get bit on the ass bigtime no matter what size bike you get..
DICKTURPIN1976 3 weeks ago
@ferrarithedude well, you live in a country that doesnt want people doing anything for themselves. i recently got into motorcycling, and i spent around 1500 USD for a ninja 500, insurance, registration, all that good stuff.
pepene93 2 weeks ago 5
@pepene93 You live in a country where they indoctrinate you into spouting shit.
nilbud 1 week ago
@nilbud yes, you keep right on thinking that, buddy. i dont expect you to listen to logic.
pepene93 1 week ago
@pepene93
Yeah but British riders are much MUCH better than Yank riders imho. Old Brit riders ride BMW GS' and like going on properly long rides into the mountains and across Europe. Old Yank riders like riding their Harlies 5 mi to the bar wearing gay fetish gear. Young Brit riders like doing trackdays & riding knee-down on B-roads. Young Yank riders (save a few who mostly live in Cali) think that riding in a t-shirt to the bar, doing wheelies is "hella cool bro" I kno where id rather be
StigRossi 6 days ago
@StigRossi hahahahha, what the FUCK are you talking about? youre just shitting out negative stereotypes about riders as facts about all americans, and making british riders sound like angels. your head is so far up your ass im not even gonna try to argue this one out.
pepene93 5 days ago
@pepene93
I've lived in the UK and I've lived in the States (Chicago) and in my EXPERIENCE this is the case. Fair enough that it may not be true for ALL parts of the States but I think its generally true. For example, filtering is legal everywhere in the UK but it isn't in teh US other than California and filtering takes a lot more observation than just sitting at lights. Hence UK riders learn to observe a bit more. Thats reasonable isn't it?
StigRossi 5 days ago
@StigRossi For your information there are plenty of real riders in america that truly live for the corners, ride 12 months out of the year, wear proper gear, and do trackdays. I've seen plenty of videos of "much better brit riders" popping clutch wheelies on public roads and riding recklessly but I don't use those few videos to judge an entire country. So keep your opinions to yourself.
Fenix281able 21 hours ago
@Fenix281able
Did u read my above comment? And oh the irony of an American trying to censor speech (hint: its one of the Amendments to the constitution). How many states in the Union have helmet laws? A minority. I'm no gear nazi and I've ridden lidless b4 but im willing 2 bet that the majority of the no-lid crowd are mostly fat posers on loud annoying Harlies.
StigRossi 21 hours ago
@StigRossi There is no above comment. Not trying to censor you but I take offense to you generalizing my entire country and saying that riders in your country are better. It's your opinion and it's a poor one. Bikers are supposed to stick together, we have enough trouble trying to not get run over by cars, we don't need to be fighting amongst ourselves.
Fenix281able 20 hours ago
@Fenix281able
Fair enough :)
Its just that in my travails to the United States, I, an ethnic minority on a rented BMW GS didn't sadly find much brotherhood amongst the mostly Harley riding bikers in bars that I encountered. There were guys on sportsbikes certainly but they were more interested in pulling wheelies than anything else
StigRossi 18 hours ago
@ferrarithedude My Cbt cost me £75, had 3 years experience on a 125cc, no lessons, took the test and passed 1st time, test cost me about £110. Insurance for my 400cc is like £550 a year, and thats an import sports bike.
DanBarns92 2 weeks ago
I think a lot of people who state how much Ducati's are better are judging based on what they look like. Not how they are to the rider. Watch someone will buy a Duc and hate it cause it doesn't have anything up top. And the Way it feels in comparison to the 4's.
ppohwat1 7 months ago
My wifes gsxr smokes my boys 999 no matter who rides which one.
Stick with GSXR baby all the way...
burnsonp 8 months ago
@cowmilky- obviously you don't know anything about ducatis and are talking out your ass. Go ride your moped
91ibanez 8 months ago
many of our bikers using their superbike on the road..they can spend their times 24 hours on the road.. if u decided to get the 1000cc bike,you will satisfy with it.. if u get the 600cc bikes,it will no longer....... because you will upgrde!!
MrVaness1991 9 months ago
bumpys an understatement
tco13v 9 months ago
wth was with the throttle at 1:02...
MaxPayne19146 9 months ago
information and opinion are always useful, presentation skills...well I don't want Top Gear type cabaret.....and what's this age thing some people are going on about ? Young ,old,middling its ..................oops forgotten what I was going to say.......well I am over 30.
zypp33 9 months ago
@zypp33 i'm not saying they should be all over the top and like top gear but this guy dosent even look or sound remotely interested in the subject and makes no attempt to even try. reminds me of when the really socially awkward kid in your class had to do a presentation and would just rush out their premade script as fast as possible
MCTurkster 9 months ago
@MCTurkster Yeh , I know what you're saying. Michael Guy did a more animated crit of the KTM 990 Adventure @7000 miles.
zypp33 9 months ago
@zypp33 But I still like Michael Neeves vids !
zypp33 9 months ago
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I dont know no "reall bike fans" who would like music in the background..
The sound of the engine&exhoust&wind is a music-simphony to my ears..
Anyone agree?
biker900r 9 months ago
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biker900r 9 months ago
Great video! I hope to see more addressing issues like this. Thanks guys.
Vros234 9 months ago
I know what i'm buying next. See you soon you sexy 750
0landese 9 months ago
really bad camera work guys, improve it to shift ur video to the next level
voo2 10 months ago
We need some background music. Even if it's something simple, or stupid, just put some music dammit.This is boring.
dariusdareme 10 months ago
@dariusdareme yeah completely agree with you specially with this guys monotone voice and lack of any excitement / presenting skills
MCTurkster 9 months ago
I disagree, 600s and 1000s are much more fun than anything inbetween, I dont care for riding at 100mph 1 handed from manchester to france and back, I just want something which likes to ride on one wheel and sounds like an F1 car
ProbablyCoolerThanU 10 months ago
@ProbablyCoolerThanU 600s are annoying on the road. My triple's battery took a dump this morning so I was stuck with the CBR600. God damn is that thing gutless and uncomfortable. The only reason I can think of why people ride them anywhere but a race track is not knowing any better.
aluisious 10 months ago
@ProbablyCoolerThanU Exactly mate.......
animal100000 10 months ago
It was obvious you were going to choose the Fireblade because you already got the leathers to match
1000RRboyJay 10 months ago
apparently the brakes on the 750 are not that good compare to 849 even if both have Brembo!!! not to mention that in 2009 R1 was beating the Fireblade, two years later, same bikes, same magazine R1 comes behind the Fireblade.....WHAT A TWAT!!!
varulalin 10 months ago 3
@varulalin True words
1000RRboyJay 10 months ago
@varulalin
Blade came out with CBS - took tehlead again. Its a legend...
Badassbok 10 months ago
Ducati all the way
theschuminator 10 months ago
The fact that the V-twin bike outperformed the Inline four on real road conditions was no surprise to me. I own an SV650 and while on track conditions my bike will get left behind a 600cc supersport, on most any real road that doesn't look like some mythical riding heaven from off an advert from a motorcycle magazine, my SV650 will keep up with or outperform the supersport 80% of the time, and that's entirely due to the way V-twins naturally make their power.
AnklebiterTypeR 10 months ago
@AnklebiterTypeR u mean just out of the corners u got the jump on them during road conditions, or coming out of the hole.
gsxrpik 10 months ago
If you are going to spend the same on a Suzuki as a Ducati...why the hell would you buy the Suzuki?
aluisious 10 months ago 47
@aluisious One reason could be because the Ducati costs a shitton (literally) more to maintain than the Suzuki.
fireymatt2 10 months ago
@aluisious jap reliability
1990SimS 9 months ago
@aluisious I didn't even realize this your absolutetly right. I automatically assumed the duck would be about 5 grand more.
0landese 9 months ago
@aluisious Cuz Ducatis are junk.
cowmilky 9 months ago
@cowmilky Ducatis are junk?
Tell that to Casey Stoner, Nicky Hayden, Valentino Rossi, Carlos Checa, and all the other riders that have taken these "pieces of junk" to the podium.
Have you ever owned or ridden a Ducati? I'm gonna guess not.
Kinkajou01 9 months ago
@aluisious because the maintance on a ducati is fucking outrageous it cost too much to maintain it
player549 7 months ago
@player549 Everything thats cool and not cookie cutterish is expensive and hard to maintain, hot rods, super cars, being married to an Italian, six pack abs, etc. Just because you like the cheap road doesn't mean the Ducati sucks, people who own them or buy one knows what they are getting into. If they don't then they are retarded. Ducati's aren't real practical in the first place, they're all about having fun, track days, and standing out of the crowd.
rippdogg156 7 months ago
@aluisious because it's japanese
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@frozenskipper Sorry, just because its Japanese doesn't mean its good. I've owned two Suzukis in my life. Yes one wasn't a GSXR it was an RM, but I tell you what. That thing was a piece of shit, and the other was a car. Also a piece. Never would I waste my money on a Suzuki again. I also had a Nissan, always in the shop for electrical problems. Now I own a KTM, best damn dirtbike I've ever had. When I get my street bike, I'm going Euro again, not to mention its way better looking!
rippdogg156 7 months ago
@rippdogg156 Well, you're right. I guess Suzuki isn't known for being the bast of the japanases brands :/ My Honda CR '03 and my older Honda '01 still putts and goes though ;) What Nissan was it?
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@aluisious An EXCELLENT point!
ferrari575guru 6 months ago
@aluisious because then the suzuki is gonna fly and the ducati isnt inline 4 ?
roalme00 5 months ago
@aluisious Looks.
thekkl 5 months ago
@aluisious because suzuki is reliable... and imo comfy
mib33houtx 4 months ago
@mib33houtx my bad I thought this was a 1000cc gsxr when I wrote that comment lol
mib33houtx 4 months ago
@aluisious simple.... reliability, and the spare parts are much cheaper and the bike is much easier to ride
MALSchmar 3 months ago
@aluisious because the suzuki is the better bike for the track, not least cause it costs less in terms of maintenance
lanneistion 3 months ago 6
@lanneistion but the gixxer is ugly in the front
buckwheat40 6 days ago
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yes333yes 2 months ago
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@aluisious Such a ridiculous argument for sooo many reasons! I'll list some....1st they are comparing a V-twin with a an inline 4. 2nd the bikes have different size motors so that's not helping anything. 3rd v-twins should have more torque (what he said the gsxr lacks) with a flatter power band, while inlines peak. 4th Ducati cost more to maintain so in the long run you spend more. It's all about preference!
yes333yes 2 months ago
@aluisious Of course, personal preferences and insurances. Cheers. ;)
LueXiong10 2 months ago
@aluisious cause on the long term it will give you less cost maybe
daspascool 1 month ago
On the racetrack a 600 will do very well...maybe better than 1000 cc. since it is easier to ride, more forgiving. But outside, in the real world, a 1000 cc is always a better option since it has more grunt, usable low revs and it is more stable at high speeds. The drawback of the 1000 cc is that maintenance, taxes, insurance etc. cost more. Personally, I am happy with my 600 cc...
bstavrev 10 months ago
Im glad they didnt side with Suzuki. I have yet to see a Gixxer do anything in professional racing. and survives selling to Ghetto kid riders here in the states. Honda and Yamaha forever! And Ducati for my dreams!
kleners 10 months ago
On the racetrack a 600 will do very well...maybe better than 1000 cc. since it is easier to ride, more forgiving. But outside, in the real world, a 1000 cc is always a better option since it has more grunt, usable low revs and it is more stable at high speeds. The drawback of the 1000 cc is that maintenance, taxes, insurance etc. cost more. Personally, I am happy with my 600 cc...
bstavrev 10 months ago
please honda and yamaha and suzuki and ducati make 2000 cc motor bikes for the REAL MEN
flmclau 10 months ago
@flmclau its not what you ride but how you ride that determines if you are a "REAL MAN" as you put it. a decent bike rider on a 250 CC will smoke a retard on a liter bike in the twisties. Straight line shit dont matter coz you cant use all that power without serious legal ramifications.So stop trying to make up for your shortcomings by jumping on a big bike, I'll still have bigger balls at the end of the day
kps142 9 months ago
@kps142 i have been 180 + mph on my ducati D16 rr in my pajamas . only a helmet on a normal 2 lane road . i think my hog came out the fly at one point ^^
mushrume 7 months ago
@kps142 "Smoking" people on public roads is still retarded. Lapping faster than a literbike on a 250 at the track is bragging rights.
aluisious 7 months ago
@aluisious most of us dont have access to tracks and the mountains are the best we manage. I use my bike to commute everyday, pretty sure I got more experience on a motorcycle over the last 15 yrs of riding than you on your precious track. Bike riding isnt about riding on tracks, its a vehicle, use it and respect it as one and not just as a toy on the track
kps142 6 months ago
@kps142 None of that changes the fact that riding competitively on public roads is stupid and dangerous. I didn't say that bikes were about tracks, but competitive riding certainly is.
aluisious 6 months ago
Well atleast they're not comparing the 848 to a 600, that video was retarded. It's practically a 900... would you compare a 900 to a 600
moosetacosR6 10 months ago
@moosetacosR6 - Well you might very well if one was an in-line four and the other was 90deg v-twin. They produce the goods differently and a short stroke multi cylinder engine can rev higher than a big twin can, so it makes more top end power. The comparison is valid.
jptanguero 10 months ago
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@moosetacosR6 - Well you might very well if one is an in-line four and the other is a 90deg v-twin. They produce the power differently; a short stroke 4 cylinder engine can rev higher than a big twin can, so it makes more top end power. The comparison is a valid one.
jptanguero 10 months ago
@ibanezjeff28 I love the reviews but I really dont think that majority of riders will feel the major differances between the top sport bikes aprat from the standard handling and the obvios power differences.
99% of bikers will never get the full potential out of their bikes and bikes will normally have more ability than the rider.... I dont see the point of getting brand new groundbreaking bikes.... keep it real guys!
CH1CKENQUIFF 10 months ago
Nice bikes :)
Crap track :/
mouseydavey 10 months ago
Watching the 750 going around and i was stunned at the rider not pushing the bike hard! give it to me and i'll post a lap time!!
asherd56 10 months ago
Oh , and another thing. I have ridden these sports bikes, and I'll tell you summat, they just about ride themselves, they are so well engineered, with sooo muc electronics,so much design into the chassis, that any "monkey" can buy and ride it,and that is the trouble if you ask me. You young guys don't know how lucky you are, you all zap past on the straights, but I always catch you in the bendy stuff. Now if a bloke was capable of hustling bikes thru bends way back then,you knew that HE was good
staryjanek 10 months ago
@staryjanek I agree, I love bikes to scare the shit outta me. Ive always ridden older bikes. I ride an old zx750at the moment, you can see it on my channel but I have no problem in leaving behind the newer shit on the twisties.... even though its almost 30kgs heavier and 50bhp less power.
CH1CKENQUIFF 10 months ago
@staryjanek sports bikes that ride themselves!!??....."young guys!!??" listen to yourself my friend. your either A: very bitter about being an older gentlemen? or B: jealous about "young guys" getting the benefit of the last 30 to 40yrs of technological advancement?? its each to there own, were supposed to be a biking community? its slowly being lost with petty arguments, try to be a little more open minded and forgiving in future.
mould9 9 months ago 13
@staryjanek its quite simple, you give respect....you get it back. instead of having a go at the younger generation of bikers, try to engage with them and understand them better, only then can we move forward as a biking community. lets not end up like car drivers eh? hating each other and getting road rage and fighting with each other! were better than that!!! oh and i am one of the "young guys" you refer to. stay safe my friend :-)
mould9 9 months ago 45
@mould9 True that. A biker is a biker no matter of age/sex/bike :)
spook187 1 month ago
@staryjanek and u just a angry old fuck who needs to learn to respect us "young guys" sure we got awesome bikes. and im pretty damn sure i could out ride your ass in a corner if i slaped road tires on my rm250 dirtbike.
dirtandsnowallday 1 month ago
@dirtandsnowallday Lol you hypocritical fuck- what's the respect shown in " u just a angry old fuck who needs to learn to respect"? Just pointing that out.
TheDeduction 4 weeks ago
MMmhh well I've been riding since 1968, never owned a "sports bike" , WTF is a sports bike anyway ? In my day you had bikes, then suddenly we got "Sports bikes". Well, can I tell you that I would be happy if every one of these bikes disappeared off the roads, happy for them to be on tracks. BUT every spring & summer I get hacked of by a swarm of "sports bike" riders scr@wing up the roads I love to ride, why ? Beacuse they treat the roads as race tracks that's why, take up extreme sports, please.
staryjanek 10 months ago
All this crying and whingeing! CC isn't everything and if it's all you see that's important in an engine, then you need to get your head corrected. If you want something changed, do something about it, youtube crying about "political masters" gets nothing changed...
binokoda 10 months ago
Was that Fireblade stock? It kinda looked like it was set up for drag racing with the extended rear swingarm.
vampyregirl100 10 months ago
Nice bikes, but what an awful track to try them out on, you were hardly out of 2nd gear lol. I could have given them a better test around my local Tesco's car park :p
elkfazer1 10 months ago
Speed limits = tax collection. It's a way for our corrupt governments to make money. If there was proof more people died because of speed limits, they still wouldn't take them away because our corrupt, evil and despotic governments care more about making money (which they skim a large part for themselves, hence why politicians don't earn much publicly but always seem to be rich..hmm...) than saving lives. Look at Iraq/Afghanistan...sending citizens to die FOR MONEY/OIL.
microwavedrabbit 10 months ago
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ArianeMaldonado901 10 months ago
liter bikes irrelevant? are you joking?
nickgnaime 10 months ago 2
seria bueno que los subtitularan para la gente de españa
perez881120 10 months ago
A 750 four cylinder can't match the low RPM torque of a twin that's got a 100CC displacement advantage. Shocking!!!
atc250rus 10 months ago 2
@atc250rus I lol'd.
rkfaithfulblade 3 months ago
hw much dose it cost n U.S dollars?
AntonioN7799 10 months ago
@AntonioN7799 check em out on ebay.
inkmonster0u812 10 months ago