Why dont we understand that if we are already in trillions of dollars in debt, then we arent going to afford to pay for all of the lazy people in america who dont wanna get a job
He damn sure did spread the wealth around. To Kenya, China, Pakistan, Mexico and Hawaii! Gov Abercrombie? Lost your voice? Obama gave South Korea a contract to make electrical cars in HAWAII! Goodbye Ford Motors ~ made in China/Mexico Goodbye BILLIONS TO PAKISTAN! Goodbye 23 MILLION TO KENYA! And lets not mention AL GORE AND ALL THE green STOCKS THEY OWN WHICH YOU CANT!
lol You kinda got that backwards. People tend to not work as hard if lots is being taken and they also cheat & hide money. This results in less tax money overall. The dems are playing a game trying to stay in control by demonizing the rich and telling people they will give them "free" services. In the long run it hurts everyone.
It's amazing how dumb people are. For the past 30 years, people have been giving the super rich, as they outsource jobs, tax cuts while stagnating the middle class wages, elongating working hours. Recently, stopped unemployment benefits to the unemployed during the highest rate of unemployment. WHILE, people are bitching about people trying to give more money to the middle class so that they can buy shit(increase demand) which will increase supply which makes jobs to get the economy going...
This isn't about "destroying America", its about INCREASING demand in order to stimulate SUPPLY. Giving tax cuts and bailing out the rich are the ideas Conservatives decided on in hopes to stimulate the economy. Companies do NOT create supply when there is NO demand!! Giving the super rich more money does NOTHING to stimulate the economy, it's just a waste of money. Whereas, if you give money to the middle class, it stimulates demand which increases supply. Pull your head out of Glenn Becks ass
@tophu1021 How does it help to take money from one person & give it to another? You haven't produced anything. All you have done is moved it from one pocket to another. You say the reciepient would spend it like the person it was stolen from wouldn't have. You are just looking at one side of things.
@shananagans5 They say if we take from the middle class and give to the super rich, that it will trickle down to the middle class and poor. It hasn't for the last 30 years. Even Bill Gates and Warren Buffet says that doesn't work and that the super rich need to pay more taxes. The more the rich pay in taxes the more money they put into their companies to expand, hire, produce, etc. The lower taxes they pay the more they take OUT of their businesses.
Spreading the wealth?? Ha Ha ha Ha. Only certain personality types are passionate about marxism. Regardless of their educational background, these people are always right brained, emotionally driven, unstable radical individuals who lack proper comprehension of the bigger picture of how the system really works. With their emotional outlook they are motivated by the fantasized version of humanity and completely forget to look at capitalism as a working system.
LOL...such feeble sheep that fear "marxism"...or what they think it means. Regardless, let's say it was "spreading the wealth around"... well get a clue! First of all, it ain't YOU ASSWIPES that would be effected ! If the wealth was spread around, YOU WOULD BE GETTING MONEY IN YOUR DIRECTION... get it? Your pittance of an income $100,000/yr or less wouldn't be the target. The wealth would be coming from $500,000+ ppl, and spreading to the middle and poor. Mid & poor got nothing to spread!!
@rightsideofhistory I still wouldn't want someone else's money. You might be self righteous and narcissistic enough to except it? Do you not have any pride to do better with more opportunity and potential rather than a fixed destiny. But the fact remains all eventualities are brought on by small changes. If you can't learn from history ,you deserve to have it repeated.
marx was in favour of complete wealth distribution on an egalitarian level, the UK,France,Germany,Canada have far more equal wealth distribution then the US going by your logic @Advocate1234 almost the hole world is communist,
please study what marxism before making such ridiculous acusations.
Obama a Marxist? His economic policies are hardly anywhere close to Marxism.
His policies are common policies that had been used in Europe before.
Only ignorants would think that he is a Marxist. And trust me, Marxism is far different from simply being wealth redistribution. He is closer to Keynes for one thing.
The assumption that he is Marxist is simple propaganda. Marxism means Soviet Union, thus communism, thus enemy of the USA. If u disagree with him, fine, but at least debate honestly.
@a199215 LOL, yes thats what everyone is saying. Most European nations have been socialist and have remained as such for quite some time now. There are only a few differences between communism and socialism. I lived in Germany for 3 years. I would still be there, but for one reason. The European Union and the German government limits a persons potential through subliminal means and outright blatant means. Usually via public taxations and civil laws...
Socialism (Social Democracy) and Communism are radically different. Communism is total state control of the economy, where goods are produced by the government. That is, no private sector. Also, under Communism only one party and one ideology were allowed to exist. That was the Soviet Union.
Europe is very different. SD focused on the model of a mixed economy, where government intervenes in the economy, but allows the private sector to exist and operate.
SD parties also operated within democratic and constitutional systems. Socialism is not what Obama is doing. He is closer to modern (or 20th century) liberalism.
oooooh, nice! GOTCHA! ..... except....well, if you think Obama's a marxist, then you have no clue what a marxist is. Not even close. You probably don't have much of an education, either. It's the sad truth about political discourse in this country. So much hot air, so little substance. Thanks for wasting time with this clip.
Joe Biden represents everything that is wrong with America today. I feel sorry for Americans but this marxist colossal calamity needs to be kicked out of the WH.
Are you freakin kidding me? Obama a marxist? Let me show you a statistic from 2007:
42% of financial wealth goes to 1% of the USA. 7% of financial wealth goes to 80% of the citizens of the USA.
This means, that this 1% of the population of the USA makes 6 times more money than the other 80% of the population. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS FAIR AND JUST? And everybody who says it's not is instantly called a socialist.
Now, under Obama the gap is even bigger! What marxist are you talking about?
The gap grows because the middle class is hit hardest be recession. Here are some more stats. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of all income taxes, The top 5% pay 60%, the bottom 50% pay 3%. Given the fact that only 7% of Americas wealth is inherited, about 3% is stolen and 90% is earned I do think it is fair. As long as wealth is obtained in a lawful manner it is none of yours, mine or any one elses business how much money another person has.
A progressive income tax does nothing but make it all the more difficult for a poor man to become financially stable and secure. He has been in office for a year. In his own words he admits to hanging out with Marxist and socialist student groups and teachers when he was in college. By this we can assume one of two things to be true He subscribes to that philosophy OR he is a poser.
Due to the fact that he surrounds himself with and looks up to the likes of Frank Marshall Davis Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn saul alinsky Cass Sunstein Anita Dunn Jeremiah Wright Van Jones ect.ect. We have to take the accusation of him being a Marxist very seriously.
if youre dying on the street, no one will come up to you and give you money for a hamburger, You think its brilliant because you dont get how it really works, you like how it sounds, who doesnt
hey maybe you should work hard and get a job and you can get promoted buy a buisness and be sucsefull instead of begging for otheres hard earned money
@Advocate1234 so effectively you think anywhere with higher taxes creates more misery than places with less taxes? You should notify the Nordic countries of their folly, and convince them of their misery.
All you right-wingers complaining about big bad Biden beating up on poor 'lil Barbara might be interested to know that your sweetheart's husband is a bigtime contributer to Republican candidates. I'm sure that has nothing to do with the softballs she lobbed at McCain (what party does he belong to again?)
The woman is a joke, a cheap political shill masquerading as a journalist (though, in all fairness, so is Keith Olbermann).
The media as a whole lobbed softballs at obama, then would throw the nastiest screwball they had at mccain because the media has died its all liberal, which is the reason for obamas winning of the election. The one time mccain was given a free ride you announce, what about when mccain was on the view????? look it up
The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle (the have's and have nots) plays a central role (change we can belive in) in understanding society's allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism (the free market) to a socialist and ultimately classless society (sharing the wealth).
I apologize my lord, for not having the great education you have had and for not being as fortunate to attend a private school, I would also like to be looked down upon for it and would also appreciate being talked down to because
@thedecider33 "Dodos". Fascinating, is that a clinical term Dr. Liberal? I've never been a fan of Bush. Bush is however, far better for a free market economy than obama will ever be. Here's a tip, if you resort to insult so quickly when arguing a point you make yourself look uneducated and fueled by hate, dogma, rather than reason and historical facts. HISTORY, read it and find how often direct government involvement in a free market economy works to the benefit of a particular nations health.
People said it loud and clear before the election, and our Lord Jesus Christ selected Obama to take the country into Marxism for a reason, and if you dont like democracy then get out ! BYE !
Well that would be true, except that it is all crap! Calm down, its not going to happen, relax. (or whine like a girl for 4 years, it's kinda fun to watch)
Jesus Christ never would approve of what Barack Obama is promoting or intending to bring about, when he takes power. You completely contradicted and defounded your arguement by that one comment. And also, sooner or later, just as they have for GWB, Bill Clinton, etc - there will be an equal investigation into Barack Obama for his shady connections and policies. Just because you don't like to hear the justified concerns of other fellow citizens doesn't give you call to demand for them to leave.
Its a simple direct question, not badgering. Apparently you only want fluff questions like the ones about barack's jeans. Biden is avoiding a direct question, 'liberal-democrat' style.
West has a long track record of bullying her interview subjects to give her the answer she wants. She is an absolute embarrassment, whatever you think of Obama.
BTW: "Spread the wealth around" was a poor choice of words, but the fact is the country would be in better shape if we spent a tenth of what we're pissing away in Iraq on health care and education. Bush's "privatize everything" solution helped get us into this mess.
I have no idea what that has to do with Barbara West's blatant sucking up to Fox News as presented in this "interview". However, since you asked, health care care is a mess and fixing it won't be cheap.
you're damn right i worked, and work for my money still. I'm complaining about the way already engorged parasitic ticks suck the wealth and pride out of our country. masters of war profit from invading, and occupying nations with lies. mccain offers only a tax credit for health insurance that means nothing to the poor. If it's every man for himself, thin out the gene pool, let me get mine; Say It! I hope it's not your loved one who lacks decent care. You gonna tell us the great works you do?
What the hell does that mean? Hit that clicker and call your nurse, you must take your meds. Your syntax is quite odd. It's the second time you said "hate to break it to you". That phrase is usually followed by: your house burnt down, your dog died, you're fired, not to reveal that I can now call myself Freedom. .... I'm starting to think you don't have an occupation, but you still find it easy to hate, and blame the poor. Believe this; hope is gonna kick fear's ass!
I can't wait till Obama wins this election. So that the ignorant people who voted for McCain can benefit from an Obama administration - tax cuts for the poor and middle class, better health care and not every single person outside of the US disliking America.
I can't wait for ignorant Canadian's to stop telling Americans who to vote for.
It is not possible for Barack Obama to give a tax cut to the people he says he is going to because the bottom 40% pay no income taxes. He will also raise the capital gains taxes, payroll taxes, and corporate tax. So the poor and middle class are going to get killed.
Moreover, the world does not hate America. The Left of the World hates America.
All of Europe and Canada elected Pro-American leaders. Even France
"Pro-American"??? What the hell does that mean? Conservatism does not translate to pro-American. They didn't teach you that when you got your post-graduate degree?
By the way how many ignorant Canadians are telling Americans who to vote for?
If Obama wins the Presidency (which he will regardless of my Canadian ignorant campaigning) does that mean the majority of America who voted for him are anti-American aka left-wing? The whole Harper thing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard the Conservative Party is more aligned with your Democratic Party. Bush's good friend T Blair was the Labour Party leader - left wing (in your definition anti-American)
Well, many of the people on the Left in America seek to "Change" America, redistribute wealth, change our Constitution and destroy the institutions that make this Country great.
Others are inspired by a charismatic demagogue, and don't know what Obama stands for.
Even so, with Bush's approval rating, the economic crisis, etc. Obama should be up by 35%.
It is close, 2% in many polls, because America is Right of Center.
Well, It seems many people on the right would like to label Obama's platform on taxes as socialist and that he would like to take away your hard earned money. Its just not true.
The same problems happened back in the great depression and we are experiencing similar times. Herbert Hoover did not want to offer any government support to the millions of people who were suffering due to the effects of the great depression and things like the dust bowl which destroyed a large portion of America's land.
Once a democrat came into office after Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, He basically took over the nation's economy to rescue it and he was very successful. Millions of people had money and food again, the banks were rescued just as they were now and huge projects were started to save our farmland. So history is repeating itself.
Sometimes government help is just needed when there is a crisis. We are in a recession are we not? Things may get worse, nobody really seems to know. Now in times of crisis or potential crisis, is it wrong for our government to help us? Is it maybe taking the issue to far to claim that Obama is going to steal money from people who worked hard for that money and redistribute it? The democrats and Obama are just as capitalist as any republican out there.
Now you sir, you will have to just wait and see what happens after Obama is elected :)
and No, I don't hate America, nor does anyone else who questions our government. That's one of the most American things that we can do is express ourselves and use our freedom of speech.
Have you ever seen 'The Colbert Report' with Stephen Colbert? On his Oct 28th show he had the presidential candidate for the SOCIALIST PARTY Brian Moore. Brian Moore stated that his platform is nothing like Obama's. This is one example I offer that proves Obama will turn America into a socialist country. In my opinion that whole idea presented by McCain is just political spin/propaganda used to make Obama look un-American. Seriously, does everyone NOT see that? Come on...lol
In regards to your comments to ShaneFromHamilton...He and anyone else in the world has a right to comment on this election in my opinion. What happens to our economy reflects on the global economy, right? Anyways, I think its good to keep a level head for all of us when it comes to election time. There is a lot of 'spin' put out there in order to get everyone worked up. I think this election has been the most interesting one ever. Thinks its because of Obama? I do.
lol Obama a Marxist? really thats what theyre pulling out of the bag now? something has to stick soon right? lol "i want a candidate thats just like me" how did george Bush work out? Some Americans(southern idiots) really are as stupid as they seem.
What is freedom? What is democracy? What is fair? The pharoahs were free. Free to enslave generations. Caste systems? Feudalism? Slavery? The bolshevik/ communist revolution was pitiful, but easy to understand it's emergence. Every single amendment to the constitution, every regulation in this great nation was paid for with blood and suffering. The Sec. of the Treas, after absconding with500 million, comes to the people with 2 pages of exhtortion bailout, and you whine about a homeless beggar?
Someone should kick that Republicunt right in her taco. Yeah right, she really came up with those questions on her own and her husband, who is a Republican strategist had nothing to do with it. So typical of the right wing-nut questioning. Obama's plan has nothing to do with socialism or Marxism. DO your homework people!
looks like there is a lot of people making over a quarter of a million dollars a year that are also making videos on youtube. they are really concerned about the extra 3 percent. why don't they just pay for it out of the money they made from those defense contracts after their pals tricked bush into lying about the WMD so they could all profit off dead blue-collar Americans. either that I they could pay for it out of the golden parachute they received for bankrupting the economy.
Why is ignorance, disdain for erudition, mortal fear of history, facts, and intellect now a virtue in our fragile democracy? Read. Study. Consider abolishing higher degrees in Business Administration, and force feeding basic history, civics, and ethics down the throats of the greedy; like so many foie gras muscovies. You young ones have no clue how evil this "socialist", "anti-american", "who is he?" smear campaign is. Bam Bam has preached nothing but the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". Dig deep!
marx and engels wrote the communist manifesto in the mid 19th century. It has absolutely nothing to do with the decent, fair approach to taxation that Obama champions. This former beauty queen, non-journalist, asked this question to smear a patriotic American, with a cheap, tired old label; commie. That's what! dannyhere4u just let you know what what is! What it is is the bright lights of truth shining on the shameless, un checked greed of the reagan "revolution". change gonna come
It has everything to do with Obama's taxation plan. Yes, Karl Marx lived in the 19th century, but his ideas live on. (Castro is still alive.) It is the idea of class elimination. On the surface, making everyone even is a noble marxist idea. It would be like giving everyone the same SAT score, to even out the unfair distribution of intelligence and of broken homes. Unfortunately, it just creates new inequities, among those who've worked hard vs those who haven't. What truly is fair?
the fact is that many working Americans work as hard as the rich people and even more but they do not get paid a living wage. Your statement is not based on fact, saying that giving others "a break" when they do not work as hard is misleading. Janitors, policeofficers,teachers,psychologysts,firefighters,soldiers,social workers work hard or harder than you and giving them a tax break is not socialism is opportunity. And they aren't lazy as you think they are
Let me give you a little lowdown here. Socialism and Marxism do not refer mainly to spreading the wealth around. Marx first vision may have been such, but upon realization that humans were in fact humans, he realized it would not work. Socialism and Communism refer to the collective ownership of public businesses, and each employee of those businesses gets a share of the profits. Being that both of the candidates help to jumpstart public businesses, it is quite far away from communism.
Let me solve the riddle for you (this may shock you):
How much money one makes is not about how hard one works. It's about how successful one is. If you invent tomorrow a simple invention that everyone want to buy from you, you could become very very rich with doing minimal work. Or to take the other extreme case, you can be a construction worker, very intelligent, hard working, but make minimal wage and work very hard.
Obama campaign is nothing but lies! This is just an example of how Obama will shut out the media IF they DARE ask the tough questions. Get ready for 4 years of Obama doing what he wants and shutting out anyone who questions it or tries to stop it. Scary! The American public that has grown gaa-gaa over this guy without knowing or asking a thing and allowing him a free pass to the most powerful seat in the world will soon get what they asked for or should I say what they didn't ask.
where has Joe the Senator been for the last couple weeks??? i can understand him being uncomfortable with the question, but to say that "he's not spreading the wealth" is a direct refutation of what Obama has *actually* said...verbatim! this comment was begging for a gaffe reel...
Yeah and John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus and taken out of content one might think (as many hard conservatives did) that sounded pretty bad. Considering he was speaking about how sad it was that so many young people idolized them etc. - - it's all about spin. Why aren't they showing the whole conversation with Joe-who-isn't-a plumber-nor-is-his-name-even-Joe? But that would be McCain! Hanging his hat yet another person he hasn't even fully researched, what an idiot!
Damn I'm good. Quoting,"A Republican campaign worker has admitted she made up a story about being attacked by an African American man in Pittsburgh because of a John McCain sticker. Ashley Todd had told police that a man had punched her in the back of the head, knocked her to the ground, while threatening to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter. She claimed the man scratched a backward letter B on the right side of her face. Todd has been charged with filing a false police report."
Biden was right laughing at that question. She obviously has no clue what Marxism is. Neither does the Americans that believe a small tax raise is socialism. They need more education.
To call someone a marxist because they raise the taxes a little is just stupid. Marxism is not about a 3-4% tax redistribution, it's an ideology about the opressive history of mankind and the end of class struggle by class revolution. To call Obama a marxist is just ignorant and childish. It's like calling him a terrorist because his friend is a muslim. And by the way, freedom and justice are also marxist agendas. You need to read.
Marxism IS about tax redistribution. It is about eliminating classes by making everyone even. Take from the rich, and give to the poor. And it is a noble idea. Unfortunately, at the end of the day Robin Hood and his Merry Band of Thieves were just that: thieves. If a homeless man robs me (I'm on unemployment), because I have more than him. Does it make it right? If the government FORCES me to give my money to that homeless man, does it make it right?
does it make it right to have a CEOs making millions of dollars while hard working Americans working for such CEO aren't making a living wage? do not have healthcare nor retirement? get sick and they do not have money to pay hospital bill after working hard for such corporation 30+ years? is it fair? This is not socialism, this is giving opportunity to working Americans to have a decent quality of life.
It IS socialism and you obviously believe in it. There is nothing wrong in that. I see a different solution to the world's problems than you do. If you have 5 pieces of chocolate and 4 children, how do you decide who gets the last piece? The oldest? The youngest? The one who has done the most chores? Is it fair that any child would get an extra piece of chocolate? Is it fair that no child be allowed to have that extra piece of chocolate and it be thrown away? WHAT IS FAIR?
If these hard working Americans don't like it, then they can go open up their own company and hire in mutual agreement their own employees and give them a 'living wage, healthcare, retirement, money to pay hospital bill'.
What's that you say? Starting your own company isn't that easy? Well guess what, these CEOs are running their own companys and if you or anyone else don't like their working conditions then don't work at their companies.
B.O. wouldn't pass a background check to become a police officer or be able to obtain any security clearance in the military due to his radical affiliations, yet the useful idiots of the United States will grant him access to highly classified information. What a shameful time in our history as a nation.
Be Aware of what you Obama Lovers are Wishing for ... in 1st year you might be crying ... and saying what the heck we were thinkning about.
Have you people Noticed a Pattern like NAZI in Obama Camp ... if they are not Flattered or Agreed with ... then you are in their Target Site to be Smeared and Destroyed!
Obama and the Democrats want a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. This is called COMMUNISM.
Know what you are voting for. A vote for Obama is a vote for COMMUNISM.
Yeah, if you will decrease taxes for middleclass and higher the taxes abit for the wealthy ... well off course you spread the wealth abit ... but trying to say that this he is a marxist or communist for this ... is just redicoulus. Then every country in the world have been a marxist state ... even USA. What a redicolous reporter! LOL!
Yes every country in the world is marxist to some extent, that's why they are so called socialists. Is Obama willing to take it to the next level? That's the question.
That means that the taxes will allways increase for the middleclass and decrease for the rich in your world. Othervise it is marxism. LOL! You are stupid!
It is marxism. Spreading the wealth around via the government is a central marxist idea. Yes there are many socialist countries out there. Since it is not politically correct to be marxist in this country, they call themselvs socialists and progressives. If you agree, don't be ashamed. I for one disagree with Karl Marx and the progressive tax. A rose by any other name still has thorns.
"spreading the wealth around via the government" hmmm. Is that like when the government bails out the fat rich cats that have caused our economic crisis? What's really funny is that this video conveniently does not show the whole interview either with Biden or Obama. Why is that?
I am against the bailout and against such quasi-government institutions as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And which fat cats are benefiting from this crisis? George Soros and Warren Buffet.
Wow I never saw this before. Joe Biden made him a self a fool by factor of ten compare that any thing that McCain has ever said in his life. I think it so very funny that Joe is that ignorant about Obama platform.
Hair Plug Biden and Barack Hussein Obama wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face. They are full of it. I will be laughing on November 5, 2008. It's McCain Palin all the way.
Stop backtracking. If you knew that you were trying to be intellectually dishonest by using a quote to demonstrate support for Marxist and spreading the wealth when in fact he was concerned with the growth and control of wealth by governments, that should be dictated by a free market and individual property rights.
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Obama is not a fucking Marxist. "to each according to his need" is simply a mantra of communism, and Obama, despite what he says, will not spread the wealth nearly as much as he should.
I'm not a Marxist and I don't appreciate personal attacks. You seem unable to discuss issues rationally without resorting to name-calling - how mature.
You are a Marxist. The idea that you want to spread the wealth around, and hope force wouldn't be necessary to do so, as you said in your videos demonstrates that you're a Marxist.
And don't give me any crap that you're an Anarcho-Syndicalist either. The CNT of Anarchist Spain were some of the most brutal people in world history when the summarily executed people and enslaved the peasants and abolished money to keep people under control.
No, Marxism does not mean "spread the wealth". It is a political philosophy based on the writings of Marx and Engels. Do some research. And yes, I am a socialist. I do believe in "spreading the wealth". The rich take money through exploitation, so progressive taxation is simply trying to reverse the negative effects of capitalism.
no son, the majority of the rich inherited the plata, and never worked a day in their lives. I don't know who you're insulting, but it is not me. After 42 years of hard labor and craftsmanship, this old working man will still wear out your pasty, soft ass. Elaborate please, tell us the great works that you actually BUILD. "the rich are rich because they work for a living" Explain to me please how a bunch of hustlers managed to create an economy that is vapor, dust, and blames the poor. Shame!
I hate to break it to you, but it is easier to work with your hands than your mind.
That is why there are more people that work with their hands rather than their minds. That is also why people who work with their minds get paid more, because not everyone can do it.
I Bussed Tables and Served for 4 years. Now I have a post-graduate degree.
Not everyone can have a post-graduate degree, so there are less of them. It is that simple. Pay is based on supply and demand.
You actually worked in a restaurant? How a great intellect like yourself must have suffered. Oh, I own a popular restaurant, play five musical instruments, speak 3 foreign languages, have a degree with honors, and yes work with my hands and mind to do fine carpentry. So right, not everyone can have a post-graduate degree. Don't worry about breaking something to me, I asked you what the hell it is you do.
No, they most certainly do not. They provide working conditions desirable enough to attract employees, and products desirable enough for consumers to purchase! That is why they are rich.
"so progressive taxation is simply trying to reverse the negative effects of capitalism."
(face palm)
taxation = government sanctioned robbery
progressive = government sanctioned punishment for success.
I don't know what he thinks, but taxation IS robbery and as such should be minimized. Some of the most egregious forms of taxation like income and capital gains taxes should be repealed immediately. If a system of voluntary contribution could be established, then that is the most desirable.
1)You're asking me if I believe in getting rid of government robberies? The answer to that would be: YES. I support a Federal sales tax(fair tax) of about 17%. not the income tax.
2) You didn't address the rest of my comment about the myth of "exploitation" because you don't have a counter argument.
Huh? I'm not the original commentator so I have no interest in continuing whatever pissing match you two are on about, tough guy. And, you said taxation = government sanctioned robbery, but then say that you support a form of taxation. So you've already contradicted yourself.
So you are unable to make a distinction between an income tax..... you know, the one where the government reaches into your pocket and takes things.... in contrast with a sales tax, a tax placed on products, that individuals CHOOSE to purchase! Thereby providing choice while still providing the government with revenue.
"So you are unable to make a distinction between an income tax...."
Hmm, I believe there's a name for the tendency to blame others for exactly what you've done yourself. Let me spell this out: you said taxation = government sanctioned robbery, I responded to that specific statement, and then you blame me for not somehow magically knowing that you actually meant only certain, specific forms of taxation? Heh...
You said absolutely nothing in this post. You didn't address the point I made... most likely because you can't, so you resort to analyzing my psychological tendencies? Now you can address my philosophical economic beliefs or go away.
Haha, wow, I didn't analyze you psychologically; I pointed out how you're blaming me for *you* not being clear in your original comment. Don't like that? You've got no one to blame but yourself, big boy. I mean, wow, defensive much?
I was substantive until you started whining about me not arguing with you about some other point you made to some other commenter. Sorry, pal, but I have no dog in that fight. Get over it. And, by the way, what have you said that's been substantive in your last two comments. Just another hilarious case of the pot calling the kettle black. You can stop digging that hole now. :)
Why dont we understand that if we are already in trillions of dollars in debt, then we arent going to afford to pay for all of the lazy people in america who dont wanna get a job
ResistanceMixtapes 11 months ago
He damn sure did spread the wealth around. To Kenya, China, Pakistan, Mexico and Hawaii! Gov Abercrombie? Lost your voice? Obama gave South Korea a contract to make electrical cars in HAWAII! Goodbye Ford Motors ~ made in China/Mexico Goodbye BILLIONS TO PAKISTAN! Goodbye 23 MILLION TO KENYA! And lets not mention AL GORE AND ALL THE green STOCKS THEY OWN WHICH YOU CANT!
Zalahblue 1 year ago
lol You kinda got that backwards. People tend to not work as hard if lots is being taken and they also cheat & hide money. This results in less tax money overall. The dems are playing a game trying to stay in control by demonizing the rich and telling people they will give them "free" services. In the long run it hurts everyone.
shananagans5 1 year ago
It's amazing how dumb people are. For the past 30 years, people have been giving the super rich, as they outsource jobs, tax cuts while stagnating the middle class wages, elongating working hours. Recently, stopped unemployment benefits to the unemployed during the highest rate of unemployment. WHILE, people are bitching about people trying to give more money to the middle class so that they can buy shit(increase demand) which will increase supply which makes jobs to get the economy going...
tophu1021 1 year ago
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tophu1021 1 year ago
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This isn't about "destroying America", its about INCREASING demand in order to stimulate SUPPLY. Giving tax cuts and bailing out the rich are the ideas Conservatives decided on in hopes to stimulate the economy. Companies do NOT create supply when there is NO demand!! Giving the super rich more money does NOTHING to stimulate the economy, it's just a waste of money. Whereas, if you give money to the middle class, it stimulates demand which increases supply. Pull your head out of Glenn Becks ass
tophu1021 1 year ago
@tophu1021 How does it help to take money from one person & give it to another? You haven't produced anything. All you have done is moved it from one pocket to another. You say the reciepient would spend it like the person it was stolen from wouldn't have. You are just looking at one side of things.
shananagans5 1 year ago
@shananagans5 They say if we take from the middle class and give to the super rich, that it will trickle down to the middle class and poor. It hasn't for the last 30 years. Even Bill Gates and Warren Buffet says that doesn't work and that the super rich need to pay more taxes. The more the rich pay in taxes the more money they put into their companies to expand, hire, produce, etc. The lower taxes they pay the more they take OUT of their businesses.
tophu1021 1 year ago
Spreading the wealth?? Ha Ha ha Ha. Only certain personality types are passionate about marxism. Regardless of their educational background, these people are always right brained, emotionally driven, unstable radical individuals who lack proper comprehension of the bigger picture of how the system really works. With their emotional outlook they are motivated by the fantasized version of humanity and completely forget to look at capitalism as a working system.
phnixpot 1 year ago
LOL...such feeble sheep that fear "marxism"...or what they think it means. Regardless, let's say it was "spreading the wealth around"... well get a clue! First of all, it ain't YOU ASSWIPES that would be effected ! If the wealth was spread around, YOU WOULD BE GETTING MONEY IN YOUR DIRECTION... get it? Your pittance of an income $100,000/yr or less wouldn't be the target. The wealth would be coming from $500,000+ ppl, and spreading to the middle and poor. Mid & poor got nothing to spread!!
rightsideofhistory 1 year ago
@rightsideofhistory I still wouldn't want someone else's money. You might be self righteous and narcissistic enough to except it? Do you not have any pride to do better with more opportunity and potential rather than a fixed destiny. But the fact remains all eventualities are brought on by small changes. If you can't learn from history ,you deserve to have it repeated.
usnate1 1 year ago
marx was in favour of complete wealth distribution on an egalitarian level, the UK,France,Germany,Canada have far more equal wealth distribution then the US going by your logic @Advocate1234 almost the hole world is communist,
please study what marxism before making such ridiculous acusations.
Privvyrecords 1 year ago
Obama a Marxist? His economic policies are hardly anywhere close to Marxism.
His policies are common policies that had been used in Europe before.
Only ignorants would think that he is a Marxist. And trust me, Marxism is far different from simply being wealth redistribution. He is closer to Keynes for one thing.
The assumption that he is Marxist is simple propaganda. Marxism means Soviet Union, thus communism, thus enemy of the USA. If u disagree with him, fine, but at least debate honestly.
a199215 1 year ago
@a199215 LOL, yes thats what everyone is saying. Most European nations have been socialist and have remained as such for quite some time now. There are only a few differences between communism and socialism. I lived in Germany for 3 years. I would still be there, but for one reason. The European Union and the German government limits a persons potential through subliminal means and outright blatant means. Usually via public taxations and civil laws...
usnate1 1 year ago
@usnate1
Socialism (Social Democracy) and Communism are radically different. Communism is total state control of the economy, where goods are produced by the government. That is, no private sector. Also, under Communism only one party and one ideology were allowed to exist. That was the Soviet Union.
Europe is very different. SD focused on the model of a mixed economy, where government intervenes in the economy, but allows the private sector to exist and operate.
a199215 1 year ago
@a199215
SD parties also operated within democratic and constitutional systems. Socialism is not what Obama is doing. He is closer to modern (or 20th century) liberalism.
a199215 1 year ago
oooooh, nice! GOTCHA! ..... except....well, if you think Obama's a marxist, then you have no clue what a marxist is. Not even close. You probably don't have much of an education, either. It's the sad truth about political discourse in this country. So much hot air, so little substance. Thanks for wasting time with this clip.
gavrilo2007 1 year ago
Joe Biden represents everything that is wrong with America today. I feel sorry for Americans but this marxist colossal calamity needs to be kicked out of the WH.
asdf234233 1 year ago
what an idiot. my mom says spread the wealth. does that make her a communist?
veggiemuncher86 1 year ago
Yo mama is a left wing pinko Commie!
lol
Temple420org 1 year ago
the guy is a marxist. wake up people
trigger0704 2 years ago
Are you freakin kidding me? Obama a marxist? Let me show you a statistic from 2007:
42% of financial wealth goes to 1% of the USA. 7% of financial wealth goes to 80% of the citizens of the USA.
This means, that this 1% of the population of the USA makes 6 times more money than the other 80% of the population. DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS FAIR AND JUST? And everybody who says it's not is instantly called a socialist.
Now, under Obama the gap is even bigger! What marxist are you talking about?
Ivanntu 2 years ago
and the top 1% pay somewhere bewteen 20 and 30% of the taxes own buisneses to pay the 80% and also they dont just poof wealthy they work hard for it
negsurbansports1234 2 years ago
The gap grows because the middle class is hit hardest be recession. Here are some more stats. The top 1% of earners pay 40% of all income taxes, The top 5% pay 60%, the bottom 50% pay 3%. Given the fact that only 7% of Americas wealth is inherited, about 3% is stolen and 90% is earned I do think it is fair. As long as wealth is obtained in a lawful manner it is none of yours, mine or any one elses business how much money another person has.
ymp5000 2 years ago
A progressive income tax does nothing but make it all the more difficult for a poor man to become financially stable and secure. He has been in office for a year. In his own words he admits to hanging out with Marxist and socialist student groups and teachers when he was in college. By this we can assume one of two things to be true He subscribes to that philosophy OR he is a poser.
ymp5000 2 years ago
Due to the fact that he surrounds himself with and looks up to the likes of Frank Marshall Davis Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn saul alinsky Cass Sunstein Anita Dunn Jeremiah Wright Van Jones ect.ect. We have to take the accusation of him being a Marxist very seriously.
ymp5000 2 years ago
spread to wealth please!! many people need at least 1 dollar to eat a hamburger!!!
tmarpe 2 years ago
Wow XD
ZoeyK86 2 years ago
We are watching an important part of history, not Obama taking the presidency but the recreation of the American welfare state!
dkkght 3 years ago
and the problem with spreading the wealth is????
cidercidercider 3 years ago
Well, it reduces the incentive for anyone to work. It also takes other's property by force of arms. It creates misery wherever it has ever been tried.
If spreading the wealth worked, North Korea would be head of the United Nations.
Advocate1234 3 years ago 4
oh yeah so if am starving to death do I have to wait until your ideology works?
tmarpe 2 years ago
thats not what "spreading the wealth" is
if youre dying on the street, no one will come up to you and give you money for a hamburger, You think its brilliant because you dont get how it really works, you like how it sounds, who doesnt
raiderslax22 2 years ago
hey maybe you should work hard and get a job and you can get promoted buy a buisness and be sucsefull instead of begging for otheres hard earned money
negsurbansports1234 2 years ago
yeah that's a great advice !! I think I'll choose the Madoff's way!! So I'll get richer richer and richer and I'll buy youtube only to block you off
tmarpe 2 years ago
@Advocate1234 so effectively you think anywhere with higher taxes creates more misery than places with less taxes? You should notify the Nordic countries of their folly, and convince them of their misery.
fatmeteor 11 months ago
All you right-wingers complaining about big bad Biden beating up on poor 'lil Barbara might be interested to know that your sweetheart's husband is a bigtime contributer to Republican candidates. I'm sure that has nothing to do with the softballs she lobbed at McCain (what party does he belong to again?)
The woman is a joke, a cheap political shill masquerading as a journalist (though, in all fairness, so is Keith Olbermann).
streetswell 3 years ago
The media as a whole lobbed softballs at obama, then would throw the nastiest screwball they had at mccain because the media has died its all liberal, which is the reason for obamas winning of the election. The one time mccain was given a free ride you announce, what about when mccain was on the view????? look it up
raiderslax22 2 years ago
For all of you with a public school education:
The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle (the have's and have nots) plays a central role (change we can belive in) in understanding society's allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism (the free market) to a socialist and ultimately classless society (sharing the wealth).
The Obama protocol.
dkkght 3 years ago
I apologize my lord, for not having the great education you have had and for not being as fortunate to attend a private school, I would also like to be looked down upon for it and would also appreciate being talked down to because
I didn't pay for my education.
PS: I KNOW WHAT MARK'S PHILOSOPHY WAS
god you're the average private school snob
raiderslax22 2 years ago
Marx not Marks
tmarpe 2 years ago
Obama isn't a Marxist.
Which is a shame.
forest4life 3 years ago
You friggin dodos. How the heck is he a marxist? You racist "geniuses". I noticed you guys aren't saying crap about your boy Bush.
thedecider33 3 years ago
Because Bush isn't a Marxist.
Is this how my tax dollars were wasted to pay for your education: Instead of teaching you to construct an argument, you yell racist.
I want my money back.
Advocate1234 3 years ago 4
@thedecider33 "Dodos". Fascinating, is that a clinical term Dr. Liberal? I've never been a fan of Bush. Bush is however, far better for a free market economy than obama will ever be. Here's a tip, if you resort to insult so quickly when arguing a point you make yourself look uneducated and fueled by hate, dogma, rather than reason and historical facts. HISTORY, read it and find how often direct government involvement in a free market economy works to the benefit of a particular nations health.
usnate1 1 year ago
People said it loud and clear before the election, and our Lord Jesus Christ selected Obama to take the country into Marxism for a reason, and if you dont like democracy then get out ! BYE !
Well that would be true, except that it is all crap! Calm down, its not going to happen, relax. (or whine like a girl for 4 years, it's kinda fun to watch)
TYTMaverick 3 years ago
Jesus Christ never would approve of what Barack Obama is promoting or intending to bring about, when he takes power. You completely contradicted and defounded your arguement by that one comment. And also, sooner or later, just as they have for GWB, Bill Clinton, etc - there will be an equal investigation into Barack Obama for his shady connections and policies. Just because you don't like to hear the justified concerns of other fellow citizens doesn't give you call to demand for them to leave.
EmilyGreene1984 3 years ago
he's a marxist!!! the communists are coming!!! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!! WARN EVERYONE!!!! DUCK AND COVER!! THE BOMBS WILL DROP!!!!
DAVIDVINCENTDURING 3 years ago
West isn't interviewing, she's badgering and testifying, FOX-style.
streetswell 3 years ago
Its a simple direct question, not badgering. Apparently you only want fluff questions like the ones about barack's jeans. Biden is avoiding a direct question, 'liberal-democrat' style.
robinandjohncarter 3 years ago
West has a long track record of bullying her interview subjects to give her the answer she wants. She is an absolute embarrassment, whatever you think of Obama.
BTW: "Spread the wealth around" was a poor choice of words, but the fact is the country would be in better shape if we spent a tenth of what we're pissing away in Iraq on health care and education. Bush's "privatize everything" solution helped get us into this mess.
streetswell 3 years ago
Bush didn't come up with privately owned businesses........... adam smith?
it must be his fault
raiderslax22 2 years ago
PS: what about obamas 1.2 trillion dollar healthcare plan?
raiderslax22 2 years ago
I have no idea what that has to do with Barbara West's blatant sucking up to Fox News as presented in this "interview". However, since you asked, health care care is a mess and fixing it won't be cheap.
streetswell 2 years ago
Barbara West was only doing what the main stream media does everyday but when its done to a lib its a crime. Barbara Wets kicked Bidens ass....
dkkght 3 years ago
I'd like to spread my wealth all over her makeup
FrankieBoombatts 3 years ago
you're damn right i worked, and work for my money still. I'm complaining about the way already engorged parasitic ticks suck the wealth and pride out of our country. masters of war profit from invading, and occupying nations with lies. mccain offers only a tax credit for health insurance that means nothing to the poor. If it's every man for himself, thin out the gene pool, let me get mine; Say It! I hope it's not your loved one who lacks decent care. You gonna tell us the great works you do?
bry3921 3 years ago
I hate to break it to you, but every man for himself has a name: Freedom.
Advocate1234 3 years ago 3
What the hell does that mean? Hit that clicker and call your nurse, you must take your meds. Your syntax is quite odd. It's the second time you said "hate to break it to you". That phrase is usually followed by: your house burnt down, your dog died, you're fired, not to reveal that I can now call myself Freedom. .... I'm starting to think you don't have an occupation, but you still find it easy to hate, and blame the poor. Believe this; hope is gonna kick fear's ass!
bry3921 3 years ago
It's called Anarchy.
brackster 3 years ago
I can't wait till Obama wins this election. So that the ignorant people who voted for McCain can benefit from an Obama administration - tax cuts for the poor and middle class, better health care and not every single person outside of the US disliking America.
ShaneFromHamilton 3 years ago
I can't wait for ignorant Canadian's to stop telling Americans who to vote for.
It is not possible for Barack Obama to give a tax cut to the people he says he is going to because the bottom 40% pay no income taxes. He will also raise the capital gains taxes, payroll taxes, and corporate tax. So the poor and middle class are going to get killed.
Moreover, the world does not hate America. The Left of the World hates America.
All of Europe and Canada elected Pro-American leaders. Even France
Advocate1234 3 years ago
"Pro-American"??? What the hell does that mean? Conservatism does not translate to pro-American. They didn't teach you that when you got your post-graduate degree?
By the way how many ignorant Canadians are telling Americans who to vote for?
ShaneFromHamilton 3 years ago
Yes it does. America is a Right of Center Country. We support Capitalism, Free Markets, limited government and a strong military.
Harper supports this. Conservatism in other countries does translate to Pro American.
You're the ignorant Canadian.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
If Obama wins the Presidency (which he will regardless of my Canadian ignorant campaigning) does that mean the majority of America who voted for him are anti-American aka left-wing? The whole Harper thing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard the Conservative Party is more aligned with your Democratic Party. Bush's good friend T Blair was the Labour Party leader - left wing (in your definition anti-American)
ShaneFromHamilton 3 years ago
Well, many of the people on the Left in America seek to "Change" America, redistribute wealth, change our Constitution and destroy the institutions that make this Country great.
Others are inspired by a charismatic demagogue, and don't know what Obama stands for.
Even so, with Bush's approval rating, the economic crisis, etc. Obama should be up by 35%.
It is close, 2% in many polls, because America is Right of Center.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Well, It seems many people on the right would like to label Obama's platform on taxes as socialist and that he would like to take away your hard earned money. Its just not true.
ack303 3 years ago
The same problems happened back in the great depression and we are experiencing similar times. Herbert Hoover did not want to offer any government support to the millions of people who were suffering due to the effects of the great depression and things like the dust bowl which destroyed a large portion of America's land.
ack303 3 years ago
Once a democrat came into office after Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, He basically took over the nation's economy to rescue it and he was very successful. Millions of people had money and food again, the banks were rescued just as they were now and huge projects were started to save our farmland. So history is repeating itself.
ack303 3 years ago
Sometimes government help is just needed when there is a crisis. We are in a recession are we not? Things may get worse, nobody really seems to know. Now in times of crisis or potential crisis, is it wrong for our government to help us? Is it maybe taking the issue to far to claim that Obama is going to steal money from people who worked hard for that money and redistribute it? The democrats and Obama are just as capitalist as any republican out there.
ack303 3 years ago
Now you sir, you will have to just wait and see what happens after Obama is elected :)
and No, I don't hate America, nor does anyone else who questions our government. That's one of the most American things that we can do is express ourselves and use our freedom of speech.
ack303 3 years ago
Have you ever seen 'The Colbert Report' with Stephen Colbert? On his Oct 28th show he had the presidential candidate for the SOCIALIST PARTY Brian Moore. Brian Moore stated that his platform is nothing like Obama's. This is one example I offer that proves Obama will turn America into a socialist country. In my opinion that whole idea presented by McCain is just political spin/propaganda used to make Obama look un-American. Seriously, does everyone NOT see that? Come on...lol
ack303 3 years ago
In regards to your comments to ShaneFromHamilton...He and anyone else in the world has a right to comment on this election in my opinion. What happens to our economy reflects on the global economy, right? Anyways, I think its good to keep a level head for all of us when it comes to election time. There is a lot of 'spin' put out there in order to get everyone worked up. I think this election has been the most interesting one ever. Thinks its because of Obama? I do.
ack303 3 years ago
i agree:) your a very peaceful person when it comes to politics
jetfire02 3 years ago
well he doesnt hold his hand over his heart for the pledge of allegiance.
jetfire02 3 years ago
why is it not true?
jetfire02 3 years ago
lol Obama a Marxist? really thats what theyre pulling out of the bag now? something has to stick soon right? lol "i want a candidate thats just like me" how did george Bush work out? Some Americans(southern idiots) really are as stupid as they seem.
ethnicgroup1 3 years ago
What is freedom? What is democracy? What is fair? The pharoahs were free. Free to enslave generations. Caste systems? Feudalism? Slavery? The bolshevik/ communist revolution was pitiful, but easy to understand it's emergence. Every single amendment to the constitution, every regulation in this great nation was paid for with blood and suffering. The Sec. of the Treas, after absconding with500 million, comes to the people with 2 pages of exhtortion bailout, and you whine about a homeless beggar?
bry3921 3 years ago
Someone should kick that Republicunt right in her taco. Yeah right, she really came up with those questions on her own and her husband, who is a Republican strategist had nothing to do with it. So typical of the right wing-nut questioning. Obama's plan has nothing to do with socialism or Marxism. DO your homework people!
carlynutt 3 years ago
looks like there is a lot of people making over a quarter of a million dollars a year that are also making videos on youtube. they are really concerned about the extra 3 percent. why don't they just pay for it out of the money they made from those defense contracts after their pals tricked bush into lying about the WMD so they could all profit off dead blue-collar Americans. either that I they could pay for it out of the golden parachute they received for bankrupting the economy.
dannyhere4u 3 years ago
Why is ignorance, disdain for erudition, mortal fear of history, facts, and intellect now a virtue in our fragile democracy? Read. Study. Consider abolishing higher degrees in Business Administration, and force feeding basic history, civics, and ethics down the throats of the greedy; like so many foie gras muscovies. You young ones have no clue how evil this "socialist", "anti-american", "who is he?" smear campaign is. Bam Bam has preached nothing but the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". Dig deep!
bry3921 3 years ago
What?!
Advocate1234 3 years ago
marx and engels wrote the communist manifesto in the mid 19th century. It has absolutely nothing to do with the decent, fair approach to taxation that Obama champions. This former beauty queen, non-journalist, asked this question to smear a patriotic American, with a cheap, tired old label; commie. That's what! dannyhere4u just let you know what what is! What it is is the bright lights of truth shining on the shameless, un checked greed of the reagan "revolution". change gonna come
bry3921 3 years ago
It has everything to do with Obama's taxation plan. Yes, Karl Marx lived in the 19th century, but his ideas live on. (Castro is still alive.) It is the idea of class elimination. On the surface, making everyone even is a noble marxist idea. It would be like giving everyone the same SAT score, to even out the unfair distribution of intelligence and of broken homes. Unfortunately, it just creates new inequities, among those who've worked hard vs those who haven't. What truly is fair?
TracyII77 3 years ago
@TracyII77
the fact is that many working Americans work as hard as the rich people and even more but they do not get paid a living wage. Your statement is not based on fact, saying that giving others "a break" when they do not work as hard is misleading. Janitors, policeofficers,teachers,psychologysts,firefighters,soldiers,social workers work hard or harder than you and giving them a tax break is not socialism is opportunity. And they aren't lazy as you think they are
Chris19CHUPAPINGAS 3 years ago
Stop with this "living wage" crap. If you set the prices for labor the people get fired.
Moreover, Marx wrote about the progressive income tax.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Let me give you a little lowdown here. Socialism and Marxism do not refer mainly to spreading the wealth around. Marx first vision may have been such, but upon realization that humans were in fact humans, he realized it would not work. Socialism and Communism refer to the collective ownership of public businesses, and each employee of those businesses gets a share of the profits. Being that both of the candidates help to jumpstart public businesses, it is quite far away from communism.
word078 3 years ago
Read the damn Communist Manifesto where he calls for a Progressive income tax.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Read "Capital" By Karl Marx.
Also, coming from a family in which two members are Socialists and not very keen on Obama's tax plan, it is pretty clear.
word078 3 years ago
@Chris
Let me solve the riddle for you (this may shock you):
How much money one makes is not about how hard one works. It's about how successful one is. If you invent tomorrow a simple invention that everyone want to buy from you, you could become very very rich with doing minimal work. Or to take the other extreme case, you can be a construction worker, very intelligent, hard working, but make minimal wage and work very hard.
I hope this makes things clearer for you.
leorana2 3 years ago
Barbara West you rock!!!
slamnelson 3 years ago
is she a real reporter? I really thought she was joking also im not even exaggerating.
ethnicgroup1 3 years ago
Hmm.. yet another video for me to try to make viral. JOIN ME!!
umbreon217 3 years ago
Obama campaign is nothing but lies! This is just an example of how Obama will shut out the media IF they DARE ask the tough questions. Get ready for 4 years of Obama doing what he wants and shutting out anyone who questions it or tries to stop it. Scary! The American public that has grown gaa-gaa over this guy without knowing or asking a thing and allowing him a free pass to the most powerful seat in the world will soon get what they asked for or should I say what they didn't ask.
powertie12 3 years ago
where has Joe the Senator been for the last couple weeks??? i can understand him being uncomfortable with the question, but to say that "he's not spreading the wealth" is a direct refutation of what Obama has *actually* said...verbatim! this comment was begging for a gaffe reel...
blizake30189 3 years ago 2
Yeah and John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus and taken out of content one might think (as many hard conservatives did) that sounded pretty bad. Considering he was speaking about how sad it was that so many young people idolized them etc. - - it's all about spin. Why aren't they showing the whole conversation with Joe-who-isn't-a plumber-nor-is-his-name-even-Joe? But that would be McCain! Hanging his hat yet another person he hasn't even fully researched, what an idiot!
maybmaja 3 years ago 2
Damn I'm good. Quoting,"A Republican campaign worker has admitted she made up a story about being attacked by an African American man in Pittsburgh because of a John McCain sticker. Ashley Todd had told police that a man had punched her in the back of the head, knocked her to the ground, while threatening to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter. She claimed the man scratched a backward letter B on the right side of her face. Todd has been charged with filing a false police report."
lGnossos 3 years ago
Biden was right laughing at that question. She obviously has no clue what Marxism is. Neither does the Americans that believe a small tax raise is socialism. They need more education.
CatoWadel 3 years ago
If Obama raised taxes and sends money to those that pay no tax. That is a redistribution of wealth and a Marxist agenda
phredl 3 years ago
To call someone a marxist because they raise the taxes a little is just stupid. Marxism is not about a 3-4% tax redistribution, it's an ideology about the opressive history of mankind and the end of class struggle by class revolution. To call Obama a marxist is just ignorant and childish. It's like calling him a terrorist because his friend is a muslim. And by the way, freedom and justice are also marxist agendas. You need to read.
CatoWadel 3 years ago
Marxism IS about tax redistribution. It is about eliminating classes by making everyone even. Take from the rich, and give to the poor. And it is a noble idea. Unfortunately, at the end of the day Robin Hood and his Merry Band of Thieves were just that: thieves. If a homeless man robs me (I'm on unemployment), because I have more than him. Does it make it right? If the government FORCES me to give my money to that homeless man, does it make it right?
TracyII77 3 years ago
That is incorrect. It is about eliminating classes by revolution, not by a 3-4% tax raise. Wake up.
To call the tax system a marxist system is a childish exaggeration that has nothing to do with reality.
Besides, your goverment already FORCES you to pay tax, have you forgotten that?
And your analogy doesn't work, it is a fallacy.
CatoWadel 3 years ago
@Tracyll77
does it make it right to have a CEOs making millions of dollars while hard working Americans working for such CEO aren't making a living wage? do not have healthcare nor retirement? get sick and they do not have money to pay hospital bill after working hard for such corporation 30+ years? is it fair? This is not socialism, this is giving opportunity to working Americans to have a decent quality of life.
Chris19CHUPAPINGAS 3 years ago
It IS socialism and you obviously believe in it. There is nothing wrong in that. I see a different solution to the world's problems than you do. If you have 5 pieces of chocolate and 4 children, how do you decide who gets the last piece? The oldest? The youngest? The one who has done the most chores? Is it fair that any child would get an extra piece of chocolate? Is it fair that no child be allowed to have that extra piece of chocolate and it be thrown away? WHAT IS FAIR?
TracyII77 3 years ago
If these hard working Americans don't like it, then they can go open up their own company and hire in mutual agreement their own employees and give them a 'living wage, healthcare, retirement, money to pay hospital bill'.
What's that you say? Starting your own company isn't that easy? Well guess what, these CEOs are running their own companys and if you or anyone else don't like their working conditions then don't work at their companies.
leorana2 3 years ago
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B.O. wouldn't pass a background check to become a police officer or be able to obtain any security clearance in the military due to his radical affiliations, yet the useful idiots of the United States will grant him access to highly classified information. What a shameful time in our history as a nation.
lowerclassbrats13 3 years ago 2
Be Aware of what you Obama Lovers are Wishing for ... in 1st year you might be crying ... and saying what the heck we were thinkning about.
Have you people Noticed a Pattern like NAZI in Obama Camp ... if they are not Flattered or Agreed with ... then you are in their Target Site to be Smeared and Destroyed!
Welcome to USA/USSR Soviet, Socialist, Communist.
gonwk 3 years ago
Barbara West punks joe Biden with some real questions! Joe must have forgoten that Obama admitted that he did pay 800K to ACORN during the primaries.
Barbara will soon be out of a job and will be investigated by the Obama Death Squads like Palin was.............What is America coming to?
dkkght 3 years ago
"Obama death squads"? Do you and Rush Limbaugh have the same OxyContin dealer?
streetswell 3 years ago
Obama and the Democrats want a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. This is called COMMUNISM.
Know what you are voting for. A vote for Obama is a vote for COMMUNISM.
kusamabo 3 years ago
First Barack Obama is a terrorrist ... now he is a marxist ...
McCain is surely desperate. That old tactic of McCain doesnt work any more.
Pompelipom33 3 years ago
Yeah, if you will decrease taxes for middleclass and higher the taxes abit for the wealthy ... well off course you spread the wealth abit ... but trying to say that this he is a marxist or communist for this ... is just redicoulus. Then every country in the world have been a marxist state ... even USA. What a redicolous reporter! LOL!
Pompelipom33 3 years ago
Yes every country in the world is marxist to some extent, that's why they are so called socialists. Is Obama willing to take it to the next level? That's the question.
SuperFinGuy 3 years ago
That means that the taxes will allways increase for the middleclass and decrease for the rich in your world. Othervise it is marxism. LOL! You are stupid!
Pompelipom33 3 years ago
It is marxism. Spreading the wealth around via the government is a central marxist idea. Yes there are many socialist countries out there. Since it is not politically correct to be marxist in this country, they call themselvs socialists and progressives. If you agree, don't be ashamed. I for one disagree with Karl Marx and the progressive tax. A rose by any other name still has thorns.
TracyII77 3 years ago 2
"spreading the wealth around via the government" hmmm. Is that like when the government bails out the fat rich cats that have caused our economic crisis? What's really funny is that this video conveniently does not show the whole interview either with Biden or Obama. Why is that?
maybmaja 3 years ago 4
I am against the bailout and against such quasi-government institutions as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And which fat cats are benefiting from this crisis? George Soros and Warren Buffet.
TracyII77 3 years ago
Haha busted! The question was too honest :P
SuperFinGuy 3 years ago
Wow I never saw this before. Joe Biden made him a self a fool by factor of ten compare that any thing that McCain has ever said in his life. I think it so very funny that Joe is that ignorant about Obama platform.
spark300c 3 years ago
Hair Plug Biden and Barack Hussein Obama wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face. They are full of it. I will be laughing on November 5, 2008. It's McCain Palin all the way.
bvb720 3 years ago
Methinks Joe The Biden will need that rosary for something else than chocking...
PeterHaroldErikson 3 years ago
When he said, "Are you joking?", you can bet he was thinking: "I need to buy more time to evade and avoid this question".
qtronman 3 years ago 2
Liberal Socialism! Bingo!
smowk69 3 years ago 3
BO's a commie bastard and should NEVER be POTUS.
yumyumcat 3 years ago 4
Slow Joe Biden and Hussein Oh-Bama are idiots
Winston2004 3 years ago 3
"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."
-- Adam Smith, intellectual lightweight and Marxist
ZortMuckerman 3 years ago
Yeah, except he was referring to feudal government royalty and nobles.
So way to demonstrate an utter lack of knowledge of history and Adam Smith.
I guess you must have been educated with my tax dollars. I think I want my money back.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Oh, wait, you're just Canadian.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Yep. I'm just Canadian. My supposed ignorance of history and Adam Smith has not harmed one cent of your precious taxes.
ZortMuckerman 3 years ago
"Yeah, except he was referring to feudal government royalty and nobles."
Um...I know. When did I say he wasn't?
ZortMuckerman 3 years ago
Stop backtracking. If you knew that you were trying to be intellectually dishonest by using a quote to demonstrate support for Marxist and spreading the wealth when in fact he was concerned with the growth and control of wealth by governments, that should be dictated by a free market and individual property rights.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
Pwned, hahaha. I love it when they misquote Smith or even Hayek or Friedman. Idiots.
Moragauth 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Obama is not a fucking Marxist. "to each according to his need" is simply a mantra of communism, and Obama, despite what he says, will not spread the wealth nearly as much as he should.
graaaaaagh 3 years ago
Oh wouldn't we all wish to be pure intellectual lightweight 19 year-old Marxist like you.
Maybe you work one day in your life before you work to destroy America.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
I'm not a Marxist and I don't appreciate personal attacks. You seem unable to discuss issues rationally without resorting to name-calling - how mature.
graaaaaagh 3 years ago
You are a Marxist. The idea that you want to spread the wealth around, and hope force wouldn't be necessary to do so, as you said in your videos demonstrates that you're a Marxist.
And don't give me any crap that you're an Anarcho-Syndicalist either. The CNT of Anarchist Spain were some of the most brutal people in world history when the summarily executed people and enslaved the peasants and abolished money to keep people under control.
You're a Marxist.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
"I'm not a Marxist"
"...will not spread the wealth nearly as much as he should."
Yep. Epic Marxist.
That's like saying, "I'm not a nihilist. I just believe in nothing."
It's not a personal attack. He's merely calling a spade a spade, or in your case, a Marxist a Marxist.
chopsky 3 years ago 2
It's incredible what sissies they are. They hate admitting they're Marxoids.
Moragauth 3 years ago
No, Marxism does not mean "spread the wealth". It is a political philosophy based on the writings of Marx and Engels. Do some research. And yes, I am a socialist. I do believe in "spreading the wealth". The rich take money through exploitation, so progressive taxation is simply trying to reverse the negative effects of capitalism.
graaaaaagh 3 years ago
The rich are rich because they work for a living and accumulate wealth by providing goods and services for their neighbors.
You on the other hand have never worked a day in your life, are an intellectual lightweight and a Marxist.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
no son, the majority of the rich inherited the plata, and never worked a day in their lives. I don't know who you're insulting, but it is not me. After 42 years of hard labor and craftsmanship, this old working man will still wear out your pasty, soft ass. Elaborate please, tell us the great works that you actually BUILD. "the rich are rich because they work for a living" Explain to me please how a bunch of hustlers managed to create an economy that is vapor, dust, and blames the poor. Shame!
bry3921 3 years ago
I hate to break it to you, but it is easier to work with your hands than your mind.
That is why there are more people that work with their hands rather than their minds. That is also why people who work with their minds get paid more, because not everyone can do it.
I Bussed Tables and Served for 4 years. Now I have a post-graduate degree.
Not everyone can have a post-graduate degree, so there are less of them. It is that simple. Pay is based on supply and demand.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
You actually worked in a restaurant? How a great intellect like yourself must have suffered. Oh, I own a popular restaurant, play five musical instruments, speak 3 foreign languages, have a degree with honors, and yes work with my hands and mind to do fine carpentry. So right, not everyone can have a post-graduate degree. Don't worry about breaking something to me, I asked you what the hell it is you do.
bry3921 3 years ago
Okay, so what are you complaining about? You worked for your money.
Advocate1234 3 years ago
"The rich take money through exploitation"
No, they most certainly do not. They provide working conditions desirable enough to attract employees, and products desirable enough for consumers to purchase! That is why they are rich.
"so progressive taxation is simply trying to reverse the negative effects of capitalism."
(face palm)
taxation = government sanctioned robbery
progressive = government sanctioned punishment for success.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
"taxation = government sanctioned robbery"
Ha, wow, are you actually proposing getting rid of taxation? There are some real loons around here.
Guest4000 3 years ago
I don't know what he thinks, but taxation IS robbery and as such should be minimized. Some of the most egregious forms of taxation like income and capital gains taxes should be repealed immediately. If a system of voluntary contribution could be established, then that is the most desirable.
incrediblemulk42 3 years ago
1)You're asking me if I believe in getting rid of government robberies? The answer to that would be: YES. I support a Federal sales tax(fair tax) of about 17%. not the income tax.
2) You didn't address the rest of my comment about the myth of "exploitation" because you don't have a counter argument.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
Huh? I'm not the original commentator so I have no interest in continuing whatever pissing match you two are on about, tough guy. And, you said taxation = government sanctioned robbery, but then say that you support a form of taxation. So you've already contradicted yourself.
Guest4000 3 years ago
So you are unable to make a distinction between an income tax..... you know, the one where the government reaches into your pocket and takes things.... in contrast with a sales tax, a tax placed on products, that individuals CHOOSE to purchase! Thereby providing choice while still providing the government with revenue.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
"So you are unable to make a distinction between an income tax...."
Hmm, I believe there's a name for the tendency to blame others for exactly what you've done yourself. Let me spell this out: you said taxation = government sanctioned robbery, I responded to that specific statement, and then you blame me for not somehow magically knowing that you actually meant only certain, specific forms of taxation? Heh...
Guest4000 3 years ago
You said absolutely nothing in this post. You didn't address the point I made... most likely because you can't, so you resort to analyzing my psychological tendencies? Now you can address my philosophical economic beliefs or go away.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
Haha, wow, I didn't analyze you psychologically; I pointed out how you're blaming me for *you* not being clear in your original comment. Don't like that? You've got no one to blame but yourself, big boy. I mean, wow, defensive much?
Guest4000 3 years ago
Stupid and un-substantive much?
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
I was substantive until you started whining about me not arguing with you about some other point you made to some other commenter. Sorry, pal, but I have no dog in that fight. Get over it. And, by the way, what have you said that's been substantive in your last two comments. Just another hilarious case of the pot calling the kettle black. You can stop digging that hole now. :)
Guest4000 3 years ago
Please die.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
gra.....gh, maybe you could explain where from the exploited people had the money, that the rich took from them.
rm8405 3 years ago
"Obama, despite what he says, will not spread the wealth nearly as much as he should" WOW!!!! I don't even know what 2 say other then WOW!!!
MadBadVoodo 3 years ago
"Should"?
Moragauth 3 years ago
lol.....biden helps us more than obama...lmao
CledusTJuddfan 3 years ago
........On Drudge......... Obama campaign cuts off WFTV after interview with Joe Biden
YeahOkTerrific 3 years ago
that's what communist do... DUHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
DennyMclain2008 3 years ago