James and Alex are both good people the only reason why alex even supposly was made out to be the bad guy in prototype 2 is because at the end of Prototype 1 alex becomes a god like creature there would of been no point of making prototype 2 if there wasnt a bad guy like him but to be honest i like james better.
Only reason? Did you forget about the innocent people he kills? Or the fact that he even admits to himself that he's a bad person? The guy is bad, just not pure evil.
see this is what i like mayhem destrution and new abilitys the can cause destruction towards everywhere they went so what team are you on..... ALEX MERCER or...... JAMES HELLER
I think the reason why Alex mercer infected Heller is because maybe Alex knew that all is lost for him and there is no stopping the virus so he infected Heller. Maybe he wants Heller to kill him who knows? Alex mercer is not alex mercer anymore pretty much the virus taken over him and pretty much everything can't kill him.The only way Alex can die is being absorb by Heller. He killed Heller family so he can give Heller a good reason to come after him. Please correct me if i'm wrong
According to the comics, Mercer has given up on humanity and decided to reshape the world. And according to a recent article, Mercer infected Heller in order to help him wipe out GenTek and Blackwatch. So it doesn't look like Mercer has any intention of dying.
believe me when i say, activision knows that millions of fans love alex. i dont think they'll just kill-off alex just yet. however i do 100% believe that heller and mercer will fight. i think that there wil be some sort of twist in the story where mercer will explain his story and heller will (eventually) forgive him. then they'll be forced to work together to fight some sort of super powerful enemy that's more powerful than the supreme hunter (goddamnit).
And alex mercer really wasn't a "good guy" almost everything he did, he did for himself. he had no passion, he loved no one, all he did was kill and gain for himself. see the thing that made fans THINK that alex was a good guy, was that whole "Escaping a bomb in the ship out into the sea thing". if you pay attention closely, you'll notice that THAT was the only thing in the game that he did that actually didn't involve slaughtering a bunch of ppl. mercer is just a neutral bad-ass character.
I just saw the Daddy's Coming Home Trailer and now this, and a lot of the audio was reused in the Coming Home trailer. I love Radical, but seeing them reuse cutscenes and audio is getting on my nerves. I want something truly new. New footage, new gameplay. Some of that saucy Pack Leader ability on camera. Something.
@Thanatos606 but the virus that took over alex body did bring the virus to a standstill and hated alex for the monstrous act he commited by unleshing the virus in penn station so why would zeus spread the virus what do you think?
I never said that the guy was spreading the virus. I'm just saying that he's not exactly 'Good'. He doesn't plenty of evil things, he's just not completely evil. He might be spreading the virus, he might not. I don't know.
@Thanatos606 If you see the world from the eyes of a being that's NOT human, then he's not a bad guy. I once recall seeing a documentary where this one scientist was interviewed saying that, if there was a vote for a species that should be thrown off the planet, we'd be nearly unanimously thrown out. Disliking the human race is not a crime. There's a lot to hate about most human beings. Now, to say EVERY human being is bad is BS. But that doesn't mean the good people are more than 5% of us.
Basically, Zeus is being an asshole about it. All he does is see the 'Bad' side of things. In 'The Anchor', he's looking for a reason to not wipe out humanity. So what does he do? Walk around randomly like a dumbass and whine whenever he sees something he doesn't like. It doesn't even seem like he even thought about actually seeking out something good. That would be like me whining about not having enough candy, so I run off to search for some in a library.
Also, there's plenty of reasons to hate plenty of other species. Humans just happen to be the most intelligent of the bunch and the only one capable of doing the things that we do.
@Thanatos He sees an abusive mother for one, and it IS correct that humanity only goes as far as it's own small world. Arguably, some of the heroes of this world are activists. Those who want to help the world, but even then... Not all causes end in good. I can understand having some grudges and fears, but to HATE another species is idiotic. Besides us, there is no species with the intelligence to hold responsible for the pain we cause. What or where would you suggest Alex should've done/went?
A soup kitchen, homeless shelter, charity organization, an animal shelter, literally ANYWHERE that he could find people that genuinely want to help others. But knowing Zeus, he'd only notice the bad things that got people to those places, instead of the good people that are trying to help them. In all honesty, Zeus is kind of a big baby in The Anchor.
@Thanatos606 Good point. But to give a counter point: The majority of people in those shelters or the animals born into shelters are the fault of people at higher levels of authority and power. Those are the people who I find to be most reprehensible. However, Alex never saw many evil higher ups in the comic (in the first game, however...) But there are some good people who try to stop injustices. Human and animal rights activists, environmentalists, etc. But how could he know where to look?
See? That's what I'm talking about. You're only looking at the negative side. Only seeing the bad things that made things bad, instead of at the good people trying to make things better. And are you really asking how Zeus would know where to look? He's (supposedly) not stupid. He's got the memories of hundreds of people, and access to the internet. It would take him literally 5 minutes to find the nearest environmentalist association.
@Thanatos606 I didn't mean to say there isn't good. I'm just saying he probably views things as "this shouldn't happen in the first place". I'm starting to doubt Alex's intelligence. I'm not saying he's a dumbass, but... He never once used a computer in the game and doesn't show any spectacular feats of intelligence in the comics or game as far as I can remember. So I wonder if he really knows where to look or if he trusts the memories he absorbed, or posssibly, the memories are mostly negative?
At this point, it almost seems like he's looking for an excuse to hate humanity, but isn't admitting it. He only looks at the negative aspects of the world, and never even attempts to seek out good human beings (he meets Finn and Autumn purely by chance). With all of those memories he stole, he should know how to do something so simple.
@Thanatos606 Sorry to invade and all but if Alex Mercer was to use a computer that would make it all to east wouldn't it?Just my opinion.(Had to try my best to make it seem like i'm super good at grammer cause you guys seem smart lol)
We're talking about the comics. IN the comic, Zeus is desperately trying to find a reason to rejoin (join) humanity. I was just saying he would have been able to find plenty of good people if he put even the smallest amount of thought into it.
i think the game is gona be great yhee it sucks you have to kill alex but we dont know that yet he might suvive also how many games do you get to fight the main protaganist??
Quick question. BW kills people by shooting them, right? And Heller is a Marine. So wouldn't he be able to spot if his wife and daughter had been shot to death?
Mercer was a shot character, he had no depth no passion no driving force he was just there. I only seen small clips of Heller and I have hopes for a character with Depth with understandable rage and anger. Mercer had none of that, he was just angry but with no real reason, his story only had one good twist in it. So yea I say again fuck Mercer I look forward to hunting him down as Heller.
@6reatJ0ke heller has no good resone ether blaming alex for something that was inderectel done by the original alex and for what I see heller story isnt so original ether its anothere kratos but worse and heller is alway on the Im going to kill alex so there no depth ether hell is more intersting then him here alax story may not have bin original but it showed he did other things
@6reatJ0ke sorry on the last part I ment to say: hell alex is more intersting then him here alex story may not have bin original but it showed he did other things
Alex isn't more interesting. All he did was get ordered around by his sister and ex-girlfriend, walk into traps, and pretty much act like a borderline dumbass. If it weren't for Ragland, Zeus would have died looooong ago.
@Thanatos606 he is more Interesting in the first game there were question of him that needed to be asked like who is he how he got his powers what is he going to do in prototype 2 there are even more question of him now people want to know un like heller that you already now what he wants, how he got his powers, and his story seem pradictabo in the sence that you know he is going to kill alex
There's plenty of questions that can be asked about Heller. Will he actually defeat Zeus, what secrets would he uncover from BW. And remember, if Zeus was the protagonist of P2, then all of those questions would have been answered right from the start. Otherwise, you'd have been playing a game and wouldn't know why. Which isn't a move Devs like to use.
@Thanatos606 the If he defeats Zeus thing thats a plot not a character secret, the secrets of BW are there secret not heller dont cunfuse it and Im not aganst heller being the new protagonist all I said is that I hope alex dosent die, it would make the game pradictabo and will kill off a character that still has story to tell see your ignoring what I saying
I'm not ignoring what you're saying. I'm speaking out against it. Disagreeing with something and ignoring something are two vastly different things. And when did I say that defeating Zeus was a character secret? It's something that we don't know will happen. You say I'm ignoring you, but you apparently can barely read.
look I have my opinion and you have yours Im not trying to convins anybody all I said is I that I hope alex does not die and you show out of nowhere to insalt me
@venom0825 I have to disagree though, the first game I felt was just about the powers the black light virus had not the actual character itself. I guess if you look at it in a way where the Virus, being born into a world with feelings of hate and revenge on his mind, goes to discover why he wants to do these things to begin with then it gets kinda interesting. That still leaves you with a fairly flat character, not saying he didn't have his good points but it could have been better.
@6reatJ0keIm not saying alex is a perfect character but I will say he is an intersting character maybe the plot in prototype one wasnt so original but it was just to get the story going. the fact that he act cold dark and crual shows that he never was human that he is the viries but he was still trying to be good and gain some humanity make him intersting to me, the point is the new plot is even less original not hating on heller but I hope there is more to this then simple wanting to kill alex
@Tizerfy No he was preforming one of his mutations the bullet dive I think it's call where he slam's in to the ground for a high altitude and it create's a massive Shockwave that destorys anything around him.
Ok now I want to play this game... but also need to find the first one which I ignored, bravo! Activision, you convinced me to buy your games based solely on trailers on youtube.
At first I thought that switching Alex from protagonist into an atagonist was a stupid idea, but I know, I'm thinking that the story won't be so simple. I mean, remember what happened in the first game. Got to admit Prototype has pretty heavy and complicated story. It tends to point not the contrast morality, but the shades of the grey. The fact is Alex himself is morally conflicting guy, anti - hero type
@Justas923 Yeah and Mercer isn't really Mercer at all. Its revealed in the first game, that he is actually the pure virus, who mutated to look like Mercer. Thats why he couldn't remember anything in the beginning of the first game.
Or I could be completely wrong and I just sounded stupid
@Wyatt542 No you're partially right. Mercer was being chased by the Blackwatch, when he dropped the virus on the floor. He was shot down by the Blackwatch. The virus spread throughout his body and brought him back to life. Except this time, he is just a body for the virus to use. He has no memory of his past.
@Diztryx it is not officially declared that mercer is dead and the virus is in possesion of his body, thats a theory mercer had in the head, he is still confused, making him human, cause why a virus would be confused?? still who knows, i guess we will find out in Prototype 2
@XgoldbergvspredatorX lol he is dead u would know if u know the story so here's it from the people that make the game, go 2 the trailer {Prototype 2 Heller's new abilities}
@Justas923 and thats what made protoype unique, instead of having a hero as a protagonist, we have an anti-hero, there is no other game like that out there...
Did you beat the game? If you don't want something spoiled, don't read the rest of this comment.
Alex turned HIMSELF into a monster. He released the virus, then was shot to death. The virus consumed/infected/replicated his corpse. So Alex Mercer died before the game even started. You play as Zeus, the virus that hijacked his corpse and thought that it was Mercer.
You people talking about how Mercer is the bad guy really make me laugh. Hello? He's a virus with a human conscience. Would you rather have a mindless monster to play as? The real Alex was a bad guy, but the virus actually tried to fix what Mercer started. You all claim that the only difference between him and the Blackwatch is that one is less evil than the other? Mercer killed like thousands of people who were going to die anyway. Plus if he was evil, why did he save the city from a nuke?
Both Alex and Zeus were bad guys. And how killing people that were "going to die anyways" make killing them any better? Besides, Zeus knew nothing about that nuke until near the end of the game, so as far as he knew, he was killing innocent people who's only mistake in life was being his enemy (Remember, being in BW doesn't automatically make someone evil). Also, he saved the city because he's not completely evil, and to protect Dana. She'd have died if it went off.
@Thanatos606 Zeus was not bad, it's a virus - lacking feelings. Alex was a political activist who believed in getting the truth out about what was going on, how he found Elizibeth Green and what BW had done to her. Zeus was why Randall wasn't successful because the spread couldn't be contained.
How was Zeus not bad? He kills innocent people all throughout the game. Even in the comics, he consumes innocent people if it's convenient. Fighting an unethical military team like BW doesn't justify turning into a psychopathic serial killer. Even worse, all of his random murder is only because he wants some answers. He's not seeking revenge for family, trying to save the world, or for anything 'good' like that. He just wanted answers.
@Thanatos606 Saying Zeus is bad is like saying a Flu is bad because it kills people. It's a virus, not a person. A virus that assimilated Alex because it was the first corpse it became exposed to. It's neither good nor bad, I'm not saying he was a hero but that's just like calling him out for being a villain - which it wasn't either. Zeus was unorthodox and by playing the game you'd know that everyone he consumed when looking for answers, were connected to Hope. They weren't innocent either.
So you don't think the flu is bad? Well...Let's hope you're bright enough to get immunizations.
Anyway...It might be a virus, but it thought like a human, acted like a human, and believed it was a human for most of it's rampage. And do you really think that being in BW automatically makes it alright for Zeus to kill them? Most of those people were just guys that KNEW something about Hope, Idaho. Most people involved would have been too old to be running around fighting.
@Thanatos606 The problem with your statement is you're saying it's bad that Zeus is killing innocent people but completely forget Hope Idaho was butchery using a virus Gentek knew full well was deadly AND the part where BW was sealing innocent people in Manhattan - even attempted to detonate the nuke... which, Zeus got out of the city to save same said innocent people that weren't infected. So if you're going to paint Zeus as a villain, BW is by no means innocent and neither was Gentek.
You do understand that almost any soldiers/scientists involved with Hope, Idaho have either retired, died of old age, or died in the field, right? Most of people Zeus killed weren't directly involved, they were just people that knew something about it. And GenTek didn't even exist at that time. BW was sealing people in Manhattan because...I dunno...there was a killer virus rampaging throughout the city? If even a single infected person got out---
@Thanatos606 Gentek was responsible for Greene, so yes they were around then. The whole purpose of the virus was to create a biological bomb that attacked specific ethnicities.
I still don't get why you're so hard pressed to call out Zeus for being a villain and yet excusing BW for it's dark history and ethics. They resorted to blowing up Manhattan simply because they couldn't contain the outbreak. Not to mention, when Alex found out what was going on with Greene, they killed him in cold blood
How was GenTek responsible for Greene? GenTek didn't even exist until years after the Hope, Idaho Incident.
Now, did I ever say that BW (as a whole) should be excused? They do extremely messed up stuff over the course of the game, and you can bet that if it was real, I'd never support it. But I'm also not a "Black and White" thinker. Besides, there's 2 different BW groups now. The current BW is there purely for defense. Their only goal is to prevent biological attacks.
then they'd risk another outbreak on the mainland. Now tell me, what's better? Destroying one city? Or risking the rest of the planet? Oh, and don't forget, the nuke was ENTIRELY Zeus' fault. It was only used because (thanks to Zeus) BW was no longer capable of containing the virus threat. So stopping the bomb was just Zeus fixing one of the problems he'd caused, and he caused a ton of problems. While Zeus is definitely bad, many of the people he killed weren't.
now, this isn't to say Zeus is good by any means. It's violent, unorthadox, clearly not in control of the outrbreak and prevented genocide on a nuclear scale by, seemingly, sacrificing itself. Meanwhile you had BW, as I said, killed Alex in cold blood in a subway because he was threatening to release the information publicly. Even went as far to attempt at ransoming the virus to make some money off it. That doesn't excuse BW for being any better by any means.
Prevented a genocide it almost caused. And the almost sacrifice wasn't intentional. Or did you forget the part where he attempted to avoid being blown to pieces? Also, Mercer had just stolen a God damned killer virus, and you're asking about him being killed in cold blood. When someone does something like that, they're the type of person that needs to be shot. Besides, he showed his true colors in the 11th Hour by going full-blown Biological Terrorist on Manhattan.
Most of the people he absorbed were people in BW that were studying Hope, Idaho and the viruses created from it, but weren't directly involved. (Unless each WOI target happened to be around 50 or 60 years old. And judging by their voices, most are fairly young or middle aged) So Zeus was really only killing others that had learned about Hope, Idaho, but had nothing to do with the actual event. Making many of them innocent soldiers, killed by Zeus for knowing something important.
One question, if BW was evil, why didn't they just nuke the city from the start and be done with it? Randall (leader of BW) was the only reason NY even survived that long, because he was the one keeping the Marines from nuking the city. Why did BW keep attempting to save the city and make a cure? They tried repeatedly to save the city and stop the virus, but Zeus stopped them from doing so. So technically, they only used the nuke because Zeus forced them to.
@Thanatos606 If not for the BW, none of that would've happened in the first place. They were killing anyone affiliated with the Blacklight project. If they hadn't tried to kill Alex, he'd never break the vial with the virus. Zeus itself stated that what Mercer did was beyond forgiveness. Randall was in charge of the Idaho project and you've seen what happened to the place. I agree that Zeus only wanted answers, but let's face it, who would talk with a monster like Zeus?
If not for people like Alex, BW wouldn't have started killing them. There were numerous security leaks in the project (Alex was implied to be one of the leaks as well), which is why they decided to purge the project. And by PURGE, I mean kill the scientists and shut down Blacklight all together. The virus would have been wiped out in the lab if not for Alex. Also, maybe Zeus would have had more allies if murder wasn't his solution for everything?
Zeus only had 4 allies throughout the game. Dana, Ragland, Cross (momentarily, before he's killed and secretly replaced by the Supreme Hunter) and Karen. Ragland and Cross didn't even like him, and Karen "betrayed" him. Also, can you really call what she did a betrayal? She was lying to Zeus, who she knew wasn't the real Alex. So technically those two had never met till then. Also, she was FORCED to lie to him. She'd wanted nothing to do with the whole Blacklight outbreak.
Randall wasn't even close to being in charge of the Idaho project. During that time, he was the leader of a unit sent into Hope, Idaho to extract a researcher. Then when they found out the researchers had alreadly been killed, his unit ended up finding Greene (she was at their extraction point). So none of what occured at Idaho was his fault. If not for Randall, Greene would have likely infected the rest of the world. So technically, he saved lives by stopping her.
Yes, Randall DID stop Greene. Randall stopped Greene at Hope, Idaho. He could have easily killed her too, but his mission had been to capture her, not kill her. 40+ years later, Zeus stopped and killed Greene in Manhattan.
@Thanatos606 Riiiight and Greene was in Manhattan for further experimentation. So again, I don't see how this makes Randall a good guy. They had a weapon and wanted to perfect it without realizing what it could do had it escaped. Which is exactly what happened, Zeus got Greene out and she went ballistic.
Did I say Randall was a good guy? All I said was that he stopped Greene for 40+ years. You seem to be misunderstanding me. I'm not claiming that Randall and all of BW are the good guys or are justified in their actions. I'm just saying that just because someone is a member of BW, that doesn't make them evil and deserved to be murdered by Zeus. There's nothing to suggest that many of his WOI targets were bad people.
@Thanatos606 That was my point. Zeus is neither bad nor good, people killed (ignoring gameplay) were connected. That didn't make them guilty, only that they were a casualty and they had information. I find it a redeeming quality of Zeus sacrificed itself to get the nuke out, of course it didn't die by it's reason was to save the non-infected that would of perished.
That's the thing, he didn't sacrifice himself. Being blown up was purely accidental. Also, his reasons still aren't 100% clear. Did he stop the nuke to save the city? Or did he only stop it because Dana was still in the city? He never says which, but based on his personality, it was probably only done to save Dana. (Oh, and if you count the canon comics, Zeus kills people that are unconnected as well. He kills innocents if it's convenient for him.
@Thanatos606 Dude I'm getting a feeling you're trying to protect the BW. As said, the only reason it started with the virus leak is because they started killing their employees. Alex found out about that and knew he was gonna be next. Although I might go to say that the BW did try to save the city, the first blood is on their hands. Also remember during the intro where they saved a woman from a horde of infected people? They killed her afterwards. Yes it's just one life, but still.
You're wrong, it's the other way around. The security leak came first, then they began killing the scientists related to Blacklight. If not for the security leak, there would have been no need to 'purge' the project. And like I've said before, Mercer was implied to be one of these 'leaks' as well. Oh, and about that woman...what do you think the odds were of her being infected? BW Soldiers don't carry virus protectors, and that woman was likely infected.
BW goes with a "Better Safe Than Sorry" policy, meaning they kill pretty much anyone that's in an infected zone. That woman was in an infected zone, and obviously been attacked by an infected, meaning she was extremely likely too have been infected. So what would have happened if they'd just let her walk to a different part of the city? They don't have viral scanners on them, so it's not like they can check.
@Thanatos606 OK about that. But if you look it at a realistic point, there's no way of stopping an infection by killing everyone in the area, by shooting at them that is. Even if it weren't for Zeus, BW would've nuked NY eventually...pretty much like what Umbrella did with Racoon City. Yeah they saved a part of NY and turned it into the Green and Yellow zone, but in the long run, none of that would've happened if not for Zeus. Why did they resolve to nuking when they made 2 zones?
Umm...It's fully possible to end it that way. Quarantine the area, kill everyone infected, and clean out everything that's infected once you've learned how the virus is spreading. (Air, water, etc) So no, if Zeus hadn't interfered, then eventually freed Greene, BW would have handled it.
And what do you mean "resolve to nuking it when they made 2 zones"? Those zones didn't exist when the nuke was used. And it's far too late to use a nuke as easily as before. The outside world knows what's going, and there's tons of people like You in the outside world. People that are fine with risking the lives of the everyone on the planet just because you'd prefer if BW "Played Nice". There'd be backlash from the outside if they nuked the city now.
@Thanatos606 I meant they were able to create the two zones after Zeus "saved" the city from the nuke. Eeither they were desperate or what... I dunno, maybe Prototype 2 will explain how they came that far. But given the BW or the ones controlling the BW have Pariah, we still have to wait and see who the real bad guy is. Considering Pariah doesn't care much for human life, I don't think they are planning anything nice with him. BTW remember that Alex released the virus before Greene.
Umm...Came that far? The existence of 3 zones means that they're losing. Remember, the entire area from P1 is now the Red Zone. Meaning that BW lost all of their previous territory and are now trying to keep more of the islands from becoming Red Zones. The Yellow Zone and The Green Zone are two entirely new areas that have become involved. So it means that BW is slowly being pushed back by Zeus and the Infected.
@Thanatos606 Zeus took up residence in the Red zone. He obviously only deals with the BW and the infected there. I mean he didn't try to spread the virus himself. Remember he did stop Greene, something the BW couldn't do. Also if you look at it, the BW actually forced Zeus into becoming a monster. Remember when he came to Mercer's apartment, the BW rigged it with explosives. If they hadn't blown it up, Zeus would've recovered much of "his" memories.
Of course he took up residence in the Red Zone. It's practically the only place where he won't get shot at every twenty seconds. In the game, taking a bullet it pretty much nothing. But in-cutscenes and in the comics, Zeus tends to avoid getting shot as much as possible. And it's A GOOD THING that BW stopped Zeus from recovering Mercer's memories. If Alex Mercer was a real monster, so if he'd gained those powers, literally everyone would have been fucked.
@Thanatos606 Or remember when he woke up and left the morgue. BW shot at him on sight plus they killed the scientists that reported him. Explain why they had to die. And after Zeus escaped, they chased him around town and there he discovered his inhuman powers.Or after that when he collapsed when a BW soldier shot at him. Zeus consumed him and gained a small hint where to start. Or when he collected genetic material when Cross attacked. Basically, BW meddle with him and vice versa..
Dude...Why wouldn't they have shot him on sight? To BW, the bio-terrorist sociopath they they could have sworn they'd just killed was walking around like nothing had happened. If I were in their position, I'd have shot him too. You make it sound like they should have just let him escape. The guy had just jumped 12 feet in the air to escape. That's basically a signal that he'd been infected, so it's their job to hunt him down and kill him at that point.
James and Alex are both good people the only reason why alex even supposly was made out to be the bad guy in prototype 2 is because at the end of Prototype 1 alex becomes a god like creature there would of been no point of making prototype 2 if there wasnt a bad guy like him but to be honest i like james better.
SlickRickMick1 2 days ago
@SlickRickMick1
Only reason? Did you forget about the innocent people he kills? Or the fact that he even admits to himself that he's a bad person? The guy is bad, just not pure evil.
Thanatos606 2 days ago
@mistahfreakout i know but i better be playing like Alex.
tkristians123 3 days ago
I better be Alex cuz he is is an evil badass.
tkristians123 4 days ago
@tkristians123 Alex Mercer is not playable in the game.
mistahfreakout 3 days ago
alex is a good guy you guys dont understand shit jame heller is a good guy to
ejecutivo0175 4 days ago
@ejecutivo0175
Good? You think Alex is a good guy? Damn...I wonder what your description of a bad guy is.
Thanatos606 4 days ago
@Thanatos606 I'd say he rather falls in the category of "anti-hero".
gr13v0u5 3 days ago
@gr13v0u5
It all depends on how you look at him, but you'd have to have a few screws loose to think he's a good guy.
Thanatos606 3 days ago
@Thanatos606 I didn't say he was.
gr13v0u5 2 days ago
@gr13v0u5
I didn't say that you said that he was. I was just pointing something out.
Thanatos606 2 days ago
@Thanatos606 I didn't say you said I said that he was. :)
Anyway, let's just stop here.
gr13v0u5 2 days ago
@gr13v0u5
Twas implied.
Thanatos606 1 day ago
see this is what i like mayhem destrution and new abilitys the can cause destruction towards everywhere they went so what team are you on..... ALEX MERCER or...... JAMES HELLER
chuckyy90 5 days ago
@TheEdeano ,no,mercer didn't killed them,virus killed them,well yea,tehnicly alex killed them,because he unsleashed the virus.
seba11321 5 days ago
why is he trying to kill alex?
dragonkiller712 5 days ago
@dragonkiller712 - alex killed his daughter and wife , a day before he got home.
TheEDeano 5 days ago
I think the reason why Alex mercer infected Heller is because maybe Alex knew that all is lost for him and there is no stopping the virus so he infected Heller. Maybe he wants Heller to kill him who knows? Alex mercer is not alex mercer anymore pretty much the virus taken over him and pretty much everything can't kill him.The only way Alex can die is being absorb by Heller. He killed Heller family so he can give Heller a good reason to come after him. Please correct me if i'm wrong
maxwel205 6 days ago
@maxwel205 That actually sounds legit.
gr13v0u5 6 days ago
@maxwel205
According to the comics, Mercer has given up on humanity and decided to reshape the world. And according to a recent article, Mercer infected Heller in order to help him wipe out GenTek and Blackwatch. So it doesn't look like Mercer has any intention of dying.
Thanatos606 6 days ago
@maxwel205 NO he saw his great skill for surviving and wanted him to be his top luitenant but did not know about his suicide mission :)
MultiOrri 4 days ago
believe me when i say, activision knows that millions of fans love alex. i dont think they'll just kill-off alex just yet. however i do 100% believe that heller and mercer will fight. i think that there wil be some sort of twist in the story where mercer will explain his story and heller will (eventually) forgive him. then they'll be forced to work together to fight some sort of super powerful enemy that's more powerful than the supreme hunter (goddamnit).
renae795 1 week ago
And alex mercer really wasn't a "good guy" almost everything he did, he did for himself. he had no passion, he loved no one, all he did was kill and gain for himself. see the thing that made fans THINK that alex was a good guy, was that whole "Escaping a bomb in the ship out into the sea thing". if you pay attention closely, you'll notice that THAT was the only thing in the game that he did that actually didn't involve slaughtering a bunch of ppl. mercer is just a neutral bad-ass character.
renae795 1 week ago
@renae795 youre right man.... the whole thing of alex.. i thought alex were a good guy at the beginning : / oww.... fuck this shit : /
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deathnote1050 1 week ago
SHIT IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
fatlip1111 1 week ago
i like giving hugs
MultiKharn 1 week ago
I just saw the Daddy's Coming Home Trailer and now this, and a lot of the audio was reused in the Coming Home trailer. I love Radical, but seeing them reuse cutscenes and audio is getting on my nerves. I want something truly new. New footage, new gameplay. Some of that saucy Pack Leader ability on camera. Something.
vgman94 1 week ago
wait you dont play as alex?
lichcammando 1 week ago
@TheElonboy So true. Fighting the main guy is something i haven't seen in a game.
AlienxLord32 1 week ago
0:50 Assasin??
greg33r 1 week ago
FUCK YOU, ALEX IS NOT A BAD GUY. YOU FUCKED UP THE STORY.
Xstewi 1 week ago
@Xstewi
Murders innocent people and dislikes the human race? Yeah, totally not a bad guy.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 but the virus that took over alex body did bring the virus to a standstill and hated alex for the monstrous act he commited by unleshing the virus in penn station so why would zeus spread the virus what do you think?
manuel1654088 1 week ago
@manuel1654088
I never said that the guy was spreading the virus. I'm just saying that he's not exactly 'Good'. He doesn't plenty of evil things, he's just not completely evil. He might be spreading the virus, he might not. I don't know.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606
*he -does- plenty of evil things*
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 so we agree that alex was more evil than zeus cause he knew too well what would happen and even zeus think its messed up what alex did.
manuel1654088 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 If you see the world from the eyes of a being that's NOT human, then he's not a bad guy. I once recall seeing a documentary where this one scientist was interviewed saying that, if there was a vote for a species that should be thrown off the planet, we'd be nearly unanimously thrown out. Disliking the human race is not a crime. There's a lot to hate about most human beings. Now, to say EVERY human being is bad is BS. But that doesn't mean the good people are more than 5% of us.
vgman94 1 week ago
@vgman94
Basically, Zeus is being an asshole about it. All he does is see the 'Bad' side of things. In 'The Anchor', he's looking for a reason to not wipe out humanity. So what does he do? Walk around randomly like a dumbass and whine whenever he sees something he doesn't like. It doesn't even seem like he even thought about actually seeking out something good. That would be like me whining about not having enough candy, so I run off to search for some in a library.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@vgman94
Also, there's plenty of reasons to hate plenty of other species. Humans just happen to be the most intelligent of the bunch and the only one capable of doing the things that we do.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos He sees an abusive mother for one, and it IS correct that humanity only goes as far as it's own small world. Arguably, some of the heroes of this world are activists. Those who want to help the world, but even then... Not all causes end in good. I can understand having some grudges and fears, but to HATE another species is idiotic. Besides us, there is no species with the intelligence to hold responsible for the pain we cause. What or where would you suggest Alex should've done/went?
vgman94 1 week ago
@vgman94
A soup kitchen, homeless shelter, charity organization, an animal shelter, literally ANYWHERE that he could find people that genuinely want to help others. But knowing Zeus, he'd only notice the bad things that got people to those places, instead of the good people that are trying to help them. In all honesty, Zeus is kind of a big baby in The Anchor.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 Good point. But to give a counter point: The majority of people in those shelters or the animals born into shelters are the fault of people at higher levels of authority and power. Those are the people who I find to be most reprehensible. However, Alex never saw many evil higher ups in the comic (in the first game, however...) But there are some good people who try to stop injustices. Human and animal rights activists, environmentalists, etc. But how could he know where to look?
vgman94 1 week ago
@vgman94
See? That's what I'm talking about. You're only looking at the negative side. Only seeing the bad things that made things bad, instead of at the good people trying to make things better. And are you really asking how Zeus would know where to look? He's (supposedly) not stupid. He's got the memories of hundreds of people, and access to the internet. It would take him literally 5 minutes to find the nearest environmentalist association.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 I didn't mean to say there isn't good. I'm just saying he probably views things as "this shouldn't happen in the first place". I'm starting to doubt Alex's intelligence. I'm not saying he's a dumbass, but... He never once used a computer in the game and doesn't show any spectacular feats of intelligence in the comics or game as far as I can remember. So I wonder if he really knows where to look or if he trusts the memories he absorbed, or posssibly, the memories are mostly negative?
vgman94 1 week ago
@vgman94
At this point, it almost seems like he's looking for an excuse to hate humanity, but isn't admitting it. He only looks at the negative aspects of the world, and never even attempts to seek out good human beings (he meets Finn and Autumn purely by chance). With all of those memories he stole, he should know how to do something so simple.
Thanatos606 1 week ago
@Thanatos606 Sorry to invade and all but if Alex Mercer was to use a computer that would make it all to east wouldn't it?Just my opinion.(Had to try my best to make it seem like i'm super good at grammer cause you guys seem smart lol)
JayJaySuave 1 week ago
@JayJaySuave
We're talking about the comics. IN the comic, Zeus is desperately trying to find a reason to rejoin (join) humanity. I was just saying he would have been able to find plenty of good people if he put even the smallest amount of thought into it.
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Xstewi 1 week ago
always the white man's fault lol
manuel1654088 1 week ago
i think the game is gona be great yhee it sucks you have to kill alex but we dont know that yet he might suvive also how many games do you get to fight the main protaganist??
TheElonboy 1 week ago
LOL still havnt finished the web of intrigue in the 1st game XD
datkid58 2 weeks ago 2
same shit,differant asshole!
manuel1654088 2 weeks ago
SHIIIIT I got goosebumps on top of goosebumps
yungswagg347 2 weeks ago
this may be a spoiler
I think blackwatch may have his family not the infected because usually when Their victims bodies are left intact they necome zombies
duodbzsonic 2 weeks ago
@duodbzsonic
Quick question. BW kills people by shooting them, right? And Heller is a Marine. So wouldn't he be able to spot if his wife and daughter had been shot to death?
Thanatos606 2 weeks ago
ima get this game just to beat the shit out of alex.... you disappointed me alex, he looks promising
PENGUIN0yCHANG0 2 weeks ago
did u see how high he whent at end !!!!1
godofwar1296 2 weeks ago
what is the name of the music??????
SlayerDarkWarrior 2 weeks ago
He looks pissed off! 1:30 :D
DevonZinn 2 weeks ago
Why do we have to see a add to watch a commercial
TheLegionMachinima 2 weeks ago
Mercer was a shot character, he had no depth no passion no driving force he was just there. I only seen small clips of Heller and I have hopes for a character with Depth with understandable rage and anger. Mercer had none of that, he was just angry but with no real reason, his story only had one good twist in it. So yea I say again fuck Mercer I look forward to hunting him down as Heller.
6reatJ0ke 2 weeks ago
@6reatJ0ke heller has no good resone ether blaming alex for something that was inderectel done by the original alex and for what I see heller story isnt so original ether its anothere kratos but worse and heller is alway on the Im going to kill alex so there no depth ether hell is more intersting then him here alax story may not have bin original but it showed he did other things
venom0825 2 weeks ago
@6reatJ0ke sorry on the last part I ment to say: hell alex is more intersting then him here alex story may not have bin original but it showed he did other things
venom0825 2 weeks ago
@venom0825
Alex isn't more interesting. All he did was get ordered around by his sister and ex-girlfriend, walk into traps, and pretty much act like a borderline dumbass. If it weren't for Ragland, Zeus would have died looooong ago.
Thanatos606 2 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 he is more Interesting in the first game there were question of him that needed to be asked like who is he how he got his powers what is he going to do in prototype 2 there are even more question of him now people want to know un like heller that you already now what he wants, how he got his powers, and his story seem pradictabo in the sence that you know he is going to kill alex
venom0825 2 weeks ago
@venom0825
There's plenty of questions that can be asked about Heller. Will he actually defeat Zeus, what secrets would he uncover from BW. And remember, if Zeus was the protagonist of P2, then all of those questions would have been answered right from the start. Otherwise, you'd have been playing a game and wouldn't know why. Which isn't a move Devs like to use.
Thanatos606 2 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 the If he defeats Zeus thing thats a plot not a character secret, the secrets of BW are there secret not heller dont cunfuse it and Im not aganst heller being the new protagonist all I said is that I hope alex dosent die, it would make the game pradictabo and will kill off a character that still has story to tell see your ignoring what I saying
venom0825 2 weeks ago
@venom0825
I'm not ignoring what you're saying. I'm speaking out against it. Disagreeing with something and ignoring something are two vastly different things. And when did I say that defeating Zeus was a character secret? It's something that we don't know will happen. You say I'm ignoring you, but you apparently can barely read.
Thanatos606 2 weeks ago
look I have my opinion and you have yours Im not trying to convins anybody all I said is I that I hope alex does not die and you show out of nowhere to insalt me
venom0825 2 weeks ago
@venom0825 I have to disagree though, the first game I felt was just about the powers the black light virus had not the actual character itself. I guess if you look at it in a way where the Virus, being born into a world with feelings of hate and revenge on his mind, goes to discover why he wants to do these things to begin with then it gets kinda interesting. That still leaves you with a fairly flat character, not saying he didn't have his good points but it could have been better.
6reatJ0ke 2 weeks ago
@6reatJ0keIm not saying alex is a perfect character but I will say he is an intersting character maybe the plot in prototype one wasnt so original but it was just to get the story going. the fact that he act cold dark and crual shows that he never was human that he is the viries but he was still trying to be good and gain some humanity make him intersting to me, the point is the new plot is even less original not hating on heller but I hope there is more to this then simple wanting to kill alex
venom0825 2 weeks ago
WAS HE FLYING
Tizerfy 2 weeks ago
@Tizerfy No he was preforming one of his mutations the bullet dive I think it's call where he slam's in to the ground for a high altitude and it create's a massive Shockwave that destorys anything around him.
UKzMUZIC 2 weeks ago
Esta entrega va a arrasar.......XD
ffittis 2 weeks ago
HE dropped her picture.
KraigOrRaptor 2 weeks ago
I thought Alex Mercer was white o_O
J3ANP3T3R 2 weeks ago
@J3ANP3T3R Mercer is white, but Sgt. James Heller (the main character for Prototype 2) is African American.
KevinTarka 2 weeks ago
the guy that was shot by the black watch soldier looks like the developer of prototype 2 Matt armstrong...... thumbs up if you agree................
raystinepayumo 2 weeks ago
Still disappointed, but I guess I'll play it.
NeroBaelside13 2 weeks ago
We all know how far the original Alex Mercer could jump, but just imagine how far a black alex mercer can jump.
SecretCodeMan 2 weeks ago
A hero versus the anti hero from the first game, I'm gonna like this dynamic.
Zada2011 2 weeks ago
Man, tumbs up if this hipes you up!
NovaEclipse87258 2 weeks ago
I swear if they kill Alex off after 1 game that would be so stupid he still has alot to offer!
CombatTurtleFTW 2 weeks ago
@CombatTurtleFTW He's technically already dead. The blackwatch virus just still has his form, hence why it looks like him.
ShadowXZeos 2 weeks ago
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT!!
=(
leifurogbaldur 3 weeks ago
Ok now I want to play this game... but also need to find the first one which I ignored, bravo! Activision, you convinced me to buy your games based solely on trailers on youtube.
IronTrooper07 3 weeks ago
This looks freaking amazing.
OneBiasedOpinion 3 weeks ago
BLACK ALEX MERCER IS WHAT THIS IS1
Fierytalonstrolls 3 weeks ago 12
@Fierytalonstrolls no he is the cost of getting the stuff out again and now that black guy has the same probs
thehellrazer 2 weeks ago
@Fierytalonstrolls "BLACK ALEX MERCER IS WHAT THIS IS" What the Hell?
vgman94 2 weeks ago
wild
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Sulefixor 3 weeks ago 21
what's the name of the soundtrack at last?
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RadooonParty 3 weeks ago 9
At first I thought that switching Alex from protagonist into an atagonist was a stupid idea, but I know, I'm thinking that the story won't be so simple. I mean, remember what happened in the first game. Got to admit Prototype has pretty heavy and complicated story. It tends to point not the contrast morality, but the shades of the grey. The fact is Alex himself is morally conflicting guy, anti - hero type
Justas923 3 weeks ago
@Justas923 Yeah and Mercer isn't really Mercer at all. Its revealed in the first game, that he is actually the pure virus, who mutated to look like Mercer. Thats why he couldn't remember anything in the beginning of the first game.
Or I could be completely wrong and I just sounded stupid
Wyatt542 3 weeks ago
@Wyatt542 No you're partially right. Mercer was being chased by the Blackwatch, when he dropped the virus on the floor. He was shot down by the Blackwatch. The virus spread throughout his body and brought him back to life. Except this time, he is just a body for the virus to use. He has no memory of his past.
Diztryx 3 weeks ago
@Diztryx it is not officially declared that mercer is dead and the virus is in possesion of his body, thats a theory mercer had in the head, he is still confused, making him human, cause why a virus would be confused?? still who knows, i guess we will find out in Prototype 2
XgoldbergvspredatorX 3 weeks ago
@XgoldbergvspredatorX lol he is dead u would know if u know the story so here's it from the people that make the game, go 2 the trailer {Prototype 2 Heller's new abilities}
MrJonez21 3 weeks ago
@XgoldbergvspredatorX Actually according to the game developers he IS dead. I cannot remember the trailer where they confirmed it, but they did.
Diztryx 3 weeks ago
@Wyatt542 its still unknown...
XgoldbergvspredatorX 3 weeks ago
@Justas923 and thats what made protoype unique, instead of having a hero as a protagonist, we have an anti-hero, there is no other game like that out there...
XgoldbergvspredatorX 3 weeks ago
@XgoldbergvspredatorX god of war?
biggeridiotthanu 2 weeks ago
@biggeridiotthanu perhaps, but he is kind of a good guy hunting the corrupt gods, he doesn't kill innocents, i think lol
XgoldbergvspredatorX 2 weeks ago
i dont know about you but heller is badass
DubNerv3 3 weeks ago
@DubNerv3 of course he is
ImR3tard 3 weeks ago
we need more blood
zviklemotangi 3 weeks ago
i need to think about this being a guy who is named Sergent James Heller And Then killing my Hero ALEX MERCER
GamerProduction261 3 weeks ago
Man this trailer is sad
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ILikeYouMyMy 3 weeks ago 12
поскорее бы вышла эта игра а то уже задолбался ее ждать((((
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WasherGeorge 3 weeks ago 10
Daddys coming home Mercer you better run bro
macknzyDcange 3 weeks ago
badass trailer!
manuel1654088 3 weeks ago
that trailer made me cry a lil bit
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WasherGeorge 4 weeks ago
are you still an anti-hero?
or just the regular hero?
that1dude0092 4 weeks ago
@that1dude0092
You're still an anti-hero.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
i feel bad for heller and alex didnt cause the inffection the army did because of a prototype project and rumors say alex is the cause of all it
noblest99 4 weeks ago
@noblest99
It's not really a rumor. It's made clear in P1 that Alex Mercer (To clarify, I'm talking about the human) unleashed the virus, not the military.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 but how
? alex was looking for who did this to him
noblest99 3 weeks ago
@noblest99
Did you beat the game? If you don't want something spoiled, don't read the rest of this comment.
Alex turned HIMSELF into a monster. He released the virus, then was shot to death. The virus consumed/infected/replicated his corpse. So Alex Mercer died before the game even started. You play as Zeus, the virus that hijacked his corpse and thought that it was Mercer.
Thanatos606 3 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 yes i did but have'nt played it in over 3 years.
noblest99 3 weeks ago
Too be honest I thought Alex felt more like a villain while playing the first game, just my opinion though.
jstitus916 4 weeks ago
You people talking about how Mercer is the bad guy really make me laugh. Hello? He's a virus with a human conscience. Would you rather have a mindless monster to play as? The real Alex was a bad guy, but the virus actually tried to fix what Mercer started. You all claim that the only difference between him and the Blackwatch is that one is less evil than the other? Mercer killed like thousands of people who were going to die anyway. Plus if he was evil, why did he save the city from a nuke?
supereldinho 1 month ago
@supereldinho
Both Alex and Zeus were bad guys. And how killing people that were "going to die anyways" make killing them any better? Besides, Zeus knew nothing about that nuke until near the end of the game, so as far as he knew, he was killing innocent people who's only mistake in life was being his enemy (Remember, being in BW doesn't automatically make someone evil). Also, he saved the city because he's not completely evil, and to protect Dana. She'd have died if it went off.
Thanatos606 1 month ago
@Thanatos606 Zeus was not bad, it's a virus - lacking feelings. Alex was a political activist who believed in getting the truth out about what was going on, how he found Elizibeth Green and what BW had done to her. Zeus was why Randall wasn't successful because the spread couldn't be contained.
FatalFist 1 month ago
@FatalFist
How was Zeus not bad? He kills innocent people all throughout the game. Even in the comics, he consumes innocent people if it's convenient. Fighting an unethical military team like BW doesn't justify turning into a psychopathic serial killer. Even worse, all of his random murder is only because he wants some answers. He's not seeking revenge for family, trying to save the world, or for anything 'good' like that. He just wanted answers.
Thanatos606 1 month ago
@Thanatos606 Saying Zeus is bad is like saying a Flu is bad because it kills people. It's a virus, not a person. A virus that assimilated Alex because it was the first corpse it became exposed to. It's neither good nor bad, I'm not saying he was a hero but that's just like calling him out for being a villain - which it wasn't either. Zeus was unorthodox and by playing the game you'd know that everyone he consumed when looking for answers, were connected to Hope. They weren't innocent either.
FatalFist 1 month ago
@FatalFist
So you don't think the flu is bad? Well...Let's hope you're bright enough to get immunizations.
Anyway...It might be a virus, but it thought like a human, acted like a human, and believed it was a human for most of it's rampage. And do you really think that being in BW automatically makes it alright for Zeus to kill them? Most of those people were just guys that KNEW something about Hope, Idaho. Most people involved would have been too old to be running around fighting.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 The problem with your statement is you're saying it's bad that Zeus is killing innocent people but completely forget Hope Idaho was butchery using a virus Gentek knew full well was deadly AND the part where BW was sealing innocent people in Manhattan - even attempted to detonate the nuke... which, Zeus got out of the city to save same said innocent people that weren't infected. So if you're going to paint Zeus as a villain, BW is by no means innocent and neither was Gentek.
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
-Sigh-
You do understand that almost any soldiers/scientists involved with Hope, Idaho have either retired, died of old age, or died in the field, right? Most of people Zeus killed weren't directly involved, they were just people that knew something about it. And GenTek didn't even exist at that time. BW was sealing people in Manhattan because...I dunno...there was a killer virus rampaging throughout the city? If even a single infected person got out---
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Gentek was responsible for Greene, so yes they were around then. The whole purpose of the virus was to create a biological bomb that attacked specific ethnicities.
I still don't get why you're so hard pressed to call out Zeus for being a villain and yet excusing BW for it's dark history and ethics. They resorted to blowing up Manhattan simply because they couldn't contain the outbreak. Not to mention, when Alex found out what was going on with Greene, they killed him in cold blood
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
How was GenTek responsible for Greene? GenTek didn't even exist until years after the Hope, Idaho Incident.
Now, did I ever say that BW (as a whole) should be excused? They do extremely messed up stuff over the course of the game, and you can bet that if it was real, I'd never support it. But I'm also not a "Black and White" thinker. Besides, there's 2 different BW groups now. The current BW is there purely for defense. Their only goal is to prevent biological attacks.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
then they'd risk another outbreak on the mainland. Now tell me, what's better? Destroying one city? Or risking the rest of the planet? Oh, and don't forget, the nuke was ENTIRELY Zeus' fault. It was only used because (thanks to Zeus) BW was no longer capable of containing the virus threat. So stopping the bomb was just Zeus fixing one of the problems he'd caused, and he caused a ton of problems. While Zeus is definitely bad, many of the people he killed weren't.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
now, this isn't to say Zeus is good by any means. It's violent, unorthadox, clearly not in control of the outrbreak and prevented genocide on a nuclear scale by, seemingly, sacrificing itself. Meanwhile you had BW, as I said, killed Alex in cold blood in a subway because he was threatening to release the information publicly. Even went as far to attempt at ransoming the virus to make some money off it. That doesn't excuse BW for being any better by any means.
Again, cause and effect.
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
Prevented a genocide it almost caused. And the almost sacrifice wasn't intentional. Or did you forget the part where he attempted to avoid being blown to pieces? Also, Mercer had just stolen a God damned killer virus, and you're asking about him being killed in cold blood. When someone does something like that, they're the type of person that needs to be shot. Besides, he showed his true colors in the 11th Hour by going full-blown Biological Terrorist on Manhattan.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
Most of the people he absorbed were people in BW that were studying Hope, Idaho and the viruses created from it, but weren't directly involved. (Unless each WOI target happened to be around 50 or 60 years old. And judging by their voices, most are fairly young or middle aged) So Zeus was really only killing others that had learned about Hope, Idaho, but had nothing to do with the actual event. Making many of them innocent soldiers, killed by Zeus for knowing something important.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
One question, if BW was evil, why didn't they just nuke the city from the start and be done with it? Randall (leader of BW) was the only reason NY even survived that long, because he was the one keeping the Marines from nuking the city. Why did BW keep attempting to save the city and make a cure? They tried repeatedly to save the city and stop the virus, but Zeus stopped them from doing so. So technically, they only used the nuke because Zeus forced them to.
Thanatos606 1 month ago
@Thanatos606 If not for the BW, none of that would've happened in the first place. They were killing anyone affiliated with the Blacklight project. If they hadn't tried to kill Alex, he'd never break the vial with the virus. Zeus itself stated that what Mercer did was beyond forgiveness. Randall was in charge of the Idaho project and you've seen what happened to the place. I agree that Zeus only wanted answers, but let's face it, who would talk with a monster like Zeus?
supereldinho 1 month ago
@supereldinho
If not for people like Alex, BW wouldn't have started killing them. There were numerous security leaks in the project (Alex was implied to be one of the leaks as well), which is why they decided to purge the project. And by PURGE, I mean kill the scientists and shut down Blacklight all together. The virus would have been wiped out in the lab if not for Alex. Also, maybe Zeus would have had more allies if murder wasn't his solution for everything?
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Zeus only had 4 allies throughout the game. Dana, Ragland, Cross (momentarily, before he's killed and secretly replaced by the Supreme Hunter) and Karen. Ragland and Cross didn't even like him, and Karen "betrayed" him. Also, can you really call what she did a betrayal? She was lying to Zeus, who she knew wasn't the real Alex. So technically those two had never met till then. Also, she was FORCED to lie to him. She'd wanted nothing to do with the whole Blacklight outbreak.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Randall wasn't even close to being in charge of the Idaho project. During that time, he was the leader of a unit sent into Hope, Idaho to extract a researcher. Then when they found out the researchers had alreadly been killed, his unit ended up finding Greene (she was at their extraction point). So none of what occured at Idaho was his fault. If not for Randall, Greene would have likely infected the rest of the world. So technically, he saved lives by stopping her.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Randall didn't stop Greene, Zeus did.
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
Yes, Randall DID stop Greene. Randall stopped Greene at Hope, Idaho. He could have easily killed her too, but his mission had been to capture her, not kill her. 40+ years later, Zeus stopped and killed Greene in Manhattan.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Riiiight and Greene was in Manhattan for further experimentation. So again, I don't see how this makes Randall a good guy. They had a weapon and wanted to perfect it without realizing what it could do had it escaped. Which is exactly what happened, Zeus got Greene out and she went ballistic.
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
-Le Sigh Again-
Did I say Randall was a good guy? All I said was that he stopped Greene for 40+ years. You seem to be misunderstanding me. I'm not claiming that Randall and all of BW are the good guys or are justified in their actions. I'm just saying that just because someone is a member of BW, that doesn't make them evil and deserved to be murdered by Zeus. There's nothing to suggest that many of his WOI targets were bad people.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 That was my point. Zeus is neither bad nor good, people killed (ignoring gameplay) were connected. That didn't make them guilty, only that they were a casualty and they had information. I find it a redeeming quality of Zeus sacrificed itself to get the nuke out, of course it didn't die by it's reason was to save the non-infected that would of perished.
FatalFist 4 weeks ago
@FatalFist
That's the thing, he didn't sacrifice himself. Being blown up was purely accidental. Also, his reasons still aren't 100% clear. Did he stop the nuke to save the city? Or did he only stop it because Dana was still in the city? He never says which, but based on his personality, it was probably only done to save Dana. (Oh, and if you count the canon comics, Zeus kills people that are unconnected as well. He kills innocents if it's convenient for him.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Yeah.Who wouldn't?
DrakoFangs 4 weeks ago
@DrakoFangs
Anyone that wasn't a sociopath wouldn't.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Dude I'm getting a feeling you're trying to protect the BW. As said, the only reason it started with the virus leak is because they started killing their employees. Alex found out about that and knew he was gonna be next. Although I might go to say that the BW did try to save the city, the first blood is on their hands. Also remember during the intro where they saved a woman from a horde of infected people? They killed her afterwards. Yes it's just one life, but still.
supereldinho 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
You're wrong, it's the other way around. The security leak came first, then they began killing the scientists related to Blacklight. If not for the security leak, there would have been no need to 'purge' the project. And like I've said before, Mercer was implied to be one of these 'leaks' as well. Oh, and about that woman...what do you think the odds were of her being infected? BW Soldiers don't carry virus protectors, and that woman was likely infected.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
BW goes with a "Better Safe Than Sorry" policy, meaning they kill pretty much anyone that's in an infected zone. That woman was in an infected zone, and obviously been attacked by an infected, meaning she was extremely likely too have been infected. So what would have happened if they'd just let her walk to a different part of the city? They don't have viral scanners on them, so it's not like they can check.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 OK about that. But if you look it at a realistic point, there's no way of stopping an infection by killing everyone in the area, by shooting at them that is. Even if it weren't for Zeus, BW would've nuked NY eventually...pretty much like what Umbrella did with Racoon City. Yeah they saved a part of NY and turned it into the Green and Yellow zone, but in the long run, none of that would've happened if not for Zeus. Why did they resolve to nuking when they made 2 zones?
supereldinho 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Umm...It's fully possible to end it that way. Quarantine the area, kill everyone infected, and clean out everything that's infected once you've learned how the virus is spreading. (Air, water, etc) So no, if Zeus hadn't interfered, then eventually freed Greene, BW would have handled it.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
And what do you mean "resolve to nuking it when they made 2 zones"? Those zones didn't exist when the nuke was used. And it's far too late to use a nuke as easily as before. The outside world knows what's going, and there's tons of people like You in the outside world. People that are fine with risking the lives of the everyone on the planet just because you'd prefer if BW "Played Nice". There'd be backlash from the outside if they nuked the city now.
Thanatos606 4 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 I meant they were able to create the two zones after Zeus "saved" the city from the nuke. Eeither they were desperate or what... I dunno, maybe Prototype 2 will explain how they came that far. But given the BW or the ones controlling the BW have Pariah, we still have to wait and see who the real bad guy is. Considering Pariah doesn't care much for human life, I don't think they are planning anything nice with him. BTW remember that Alex released the virus before Greene.
supereldinho 4 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Umm...Came that far? The existence of 3 zones means that they're losing. Remember, the entire area from P1 is now the Red Zone. Meaning that BW lost all of their previous territory and are now trying to keep more of the islands from becoming Red Zones. The Yellow Zone and The Green Zone are two entirely new areas that have become involved. So it means that BW is slowly being pushed back by Zeus and the Infected.
Thanatos606 3 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Zeus took up residence in the Red zone. He obviously only deals with the BW and the infected there. I mean he didn't try to spread the virus himself. Remember he did stop Greene, something the BW couldn't do. Also if you look at it, the BW actually forced Zeus into becoming a monster. Remember when he came to Mercer's apartment, the BW rigged it with explosives. If they hadn't blown it up, Zeus would've recovered much of "his" memories.
supereldinho 3 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Of course he took up residence in the Red Zone. It's practically the only place where he won't get shot at every twenty seconds. In the game, taking a bullet it pretty much nothing. But in-cutscenes and in the comics, Zeus tends to avoid getting shot as much as possible. And it's A GOOD THING that BW stopped Zeus from recovering Mercer's memories. If Alex Mercer was a real monster, so if he'd gained those powers, literally everyone would have been fucked.
Thanatos606 3 weeks ago
@Thanatos606 Or remember when he woke up and left the morgue. BW shot at him on sight plus they killed the scientists that reported him. Explain why they had to die. And after Zeus escaped, they chased him around town and there he discovered his inhuman powers.Or after that when he collapsed when a BW soldier shot at him. Zeus consumed him and gained a small hint where to start. Or when he collected genetic material when Cross attacked. Basically, BW meddle with him and vice versa..
supereldinho 3 weeks ago
@supereldinho
Dude...Why wouldn't they have shot him on sight? To BW, the bio-terrorist sociopath they they could have sworn they'd just killed was walking around like nothing had happened. If I were in their position, I'd have shot him too. You make it sound like they should have just let him escape. The guy had just jumped 12 feet in the air to escape. That's basically a signal that he'd been infected, so it's their job to hunt him down and kill him at that point.
Thanatos606 3 weeks ago