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  • China faked their space walk. Do YouTube searches on-

    "FAKED Chinese Spacewalk !!! Under Water !!! PROOF !!! (part 1)"

    "About paper and bubbles of ShenzhouVII"

    "Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk"

    The US faked the Apollo moon missions too. To see a partial summary of the evidence, google "The Naked Scientists". In the "New Theories" section of the forum there's a thread entitled "Did We Walk on the Moon?". The summary is on page 15. It's the 7th post from the top.

  • @Cosmored haha, the time when you realise the truth is the time when you regret, and the time when you regret is the time when your nation falls

  • Oh dear-dear. Now China is going to space and they will find stuff there that the US government does want its citizens to know. How r u going to stop China from speaking, threaten them with court martial like what it's been doing to its citizens. Oh no wouldn't work , may be bribe them or buy them out, make them stop the space program how? Big'big trouble in little china

  • 是的,我们可以做到。Yes,we can!

  • now china can start thinkin of mars. I recommend china to start exploring mars n terraform mars to be more earth like. With manpower of 1.3++billion, china can organize a systematic colonization program of mars. China can experiment in detail d hydrology of permafrost in d tibetan plateau since it has d similarities wit mars permafrost which believe to contain water. Terraform mars n expand d chinese civilization!!

  • Chang e went to the moon because she was greedy.

  • @joemb1977 everyone is greedy for moon, lots of energy like H-3 and other resources :)

  • go Ghina go go go

  • I reckon that, on the opposite side that Japan makes the most reliable car, China can be the ones that will make the most reliable spacecraft and spaceprobe!

  • dont ! CHINA,CHINA got too much ! this thousands of years, CHINA needs steady,not !

  • nice vid thanks!

  • the fact is, the lunar probe still in working condition surrounding the moon!

  • umm just to correct you... orbiting not surrounding..

  • You have to be in the top 10 richest country's to even consider a space program. China is very lucky to be 4th =).

  • China has 1.4 trillion dollars in foreign reserve. Do you consider this "very lucky?"

  • who is first?

  • @kolalajoe well, the country is rich but not everyone in china... and hope rich country can help other poor nations instead of just show how powerful they are...:)

  • google moon 。。。Song nver come from MOON.

    It was out of controll already..

  • Still in the lab? LOL

  • That's true. It's laughable that some Western nations try to come across as moral apostles. They forget their history so quickly.

  • I say forget the political garbage. I say, congratulations to China's space program. Clearly they deserve the respect, and I hope that the discoveries their program makes are those that will serve all of mankind, though I suppose it would only be rightful if they got a good chunk of the profits.

  • If CCP want to control China,they must carry out the autarchy.

  • but even CCPer themselves don't believe they can always control chinese. things will become better, we will free !

  • you know , communists hurted our nation a lot And is hurting us right now. communist is not chinese thing ,it's a plague invented by a western scum . no western country ruled by it any more. who was brain-washed? it was you , not him.

  • socialism with chinese characteristic much?

  • What do u mean by communist hurts Chinese nation badly? Do u know the consequence of China become a democratic nation? The collapse of Soviet Union, and the Corrupted democratic India are very good examples. In fact, China is a socialism/communism combined nation. you should not look backward about old way of Communism. Now China is difference from the past. Our President Hu will make China become a superpower nation in the world.

  • Why did you guys debate so much political branchings through this short video??

    Need you?

    It's just a vedio about a lunar spaceship, something refers to the technique, just so.

  • guess who started it? *rolls eyes*

  • ......

  • dont't fear china too excessively.though it developes very quickly these years.compared with amercia it still appears very poor.What is more important it's that most of chinese love peace,they don't feel like to see any war happends in this world including the war wiht their compatriot tai wan brothers.I hope american can review chinese with a friendly attitude.

  • War will not happen because Australia's new prim minister is a Chinese thinking man. Keven is his name. I truly believe Keven is the answer to a lot of east asian problems. Especially dealing with America over China.

    P.S dont believe me look up keven rudd on google.

  • wha~~~t?! is it necessarily to "jet" chinese like this? those people who spot on US moon landing are not chinese. Real chinese hate CCP, but they also love their people. don't wish to see foreigners censure their men. all you said were facts i have to accept.but i believe CCP cann't always control us, i pray for my people and yankee's future.

  • "real chinese hate CCP" Care to back that up? Most of the Chinese I know have relatively neutral feelings towards the CCP.

  • you know , they said CCP's brain wash not only to my people but also to westerners. know you have shown it.

  • Way to dodge my question, didojj.

  • that's true.but i still like China.we suffered a tough history.we still poor,we have to use Coal,we have to be exploited by you developed west coutries.we now have to be your factory.Our people still suffering,not less than the time when we are invaded.

  • The poverty rate in China has decreased significantly in the last 30 years so I would say that the Chinese people are suffering far less today then they were a few generations ago.

  • yesterday,

    something wrong happened on chang'e T__T

    i will pray for it's success...

  • Hmmm ...for the first ti me we must see if US really was on the Moon ! CZ a lot of equipment remain there . & huh ...some secret alien base ?

  • i don't wish to feel doubt about ,usa has already landed on the moon. that landing was a great victory for all human after all. but , if us GOV really lied , do you think chinese should disclose it? it's not only no good for chinese but also will enrage someone.

  • i don't suspect that too.i believe American has landed on the moon.though china has dragged behind america for many years but i still admire chinese for their intelligence.

  • PRC isn't perfect, but it's record is better than that of the US in almost every respect. It is likely that the PRC will eventually replace the US as the most powerful nation on earth. At that point, a world based on peace and prosperity for ALL nations will become possible.

  • i so agree with this

  • The latest peer reviewed research suggests that there have been 1.2 million 'excess deaths' (i.e. deaths that would not otherwise have occured) in Iraq since the US/UK invasion. That exceeds the deaths that occured in the Rwandan genocide.

  • partly agreed. as well known the past iraq president in fact was a king ,a egregious ruffian. usa did well to hung him up and liberated people. but so long a time have past ...why US army always stay there? JUST for justice? their purpose is so pure?

    hehe ~~~

  • Alan Greenspan, former chair of the Federal Reserve gave the game away recently when he said ". . what everyone knows . . .the Iraq war is largely about oil".

  • how do you know it? from where? media lies. you are cheated and feels like you feel really good...

  • I am very happy for china and also human being's accomplishment!

  • I don't ever recall the US massacring 3000 of its own citizens during a government protest.

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    I'm sure millions of American indians and blacks slaves were not counted as human beings (how could they protest against this?). Those Indians started to get massacred since the first day American democracy was established.

    I'm sure most blacks already died when they were being shipped to the us.

  • I hope for all our differences nations can one day put away weapons and explore space together - for all mankind. Peace...

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    that will be sweet um? poor Indians ...most of them be killed by americans and lost the right of explore space forever T_T . because they are so weak and no good weapones. but i really holp your thought shall come truth ...

  • some chinese really love USA,i'm one of them . But when we look back deeply on history. we find americans are so self-centred ,so venal and hypocritical. they can betray every friend if the price is suitable . so, while kick the Communist Party into the hell. the chinese shall keep an eye open on you.dear yankees. ^_^

  • It's been cool debating with you all. I've learnt a lot from all your comments. Indeed, there are a lot of gaps in my knowledge concerning China. I do respect Chinese accomplishments over the centuries though - including the four great inventions. I hope for all our differences nations can one day put away weapons and explore space together - for all mankind. Peace...

  • plasmalux

    I don't ever recall the US massacring 3000 of its own citizens during a government protest

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    indeed, that will aways be a scar. but i remind you :Red China is not REAL china .communism was a invention of jews, this plague was brought to china by russians, when china exhausted after War2 . it's fact ,USA support the Chinese Communist Party from 1943-1947, when chinese failed and retreat to TaiWan,USA still suppress them.

  • Hats off to the Chinese for Chang'e-1 though. I can't wait for the spacewalk on Shenzhou VII in September 2008!

  • Not that I endorse the current US political administration...a bunch of trigger happy, self righteous baby splatter's. There...If I was an American, I'd get away with writing that comment inside the US (not that I'm American). However, if I posted a similar comment within the golden PRC, I'd likely end up suspended by my nuts from a crane.

  • I don't ever recall the US massacring 3000 of its own citizens during a government protest. Tiananmen Square demonstrated how hollow the Red utopia actually is...

  • Don't pretend that the United States government is an angel, and Chinese government is a devil. As long as politics is involved, there is evil. The only difference is to what an extent. Admittedly Chinese government is far from ideal, but that's not a justification for anachism or subversion. The instinctive hostility of some Americans towards China is beyond my understanding.

  • i have nothing but respect for the Chinese people.

  • The PRC is developing itself through peaceful cooperation with other countries, whereas the US is threatening, bullying, invading, murdering and torturing on a massive scale.

  • The idea that Tibetan Chinese would be better off under religious fundamentalism represented by the Dalia Lama is insane. They are enjoying levels of development and prosperity that were previously undreamed of.

  • didojj1 is correct. In 1271 Kublai Khan named his state the Yuan dynasty. In 1279 he unified China's entire territory. It was then that Tibet became an administrative region under the direct jurisdiction of the central government of China.

  • plasmalux

    In 1950, the Chinese Army invaded the Tibetan area

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    chinese invaded there own land ? what's a logic T_T . 

    if you want to judge china, maybe you need know more about her.

    after 1200 Mongolian occupied Tibetan ,they have no king.when china failed in stopping mongolian : mongolia , tibetan ,china became one. ---when chinese down with mongolians tibet have no profane leader, chinese emperor is there leader.

  • In 1950, the Chinese Army invaded the Tibetan area of Chamdo, crushing minimal resistance from the ill-equipped Tibetan army. In 1951, the Tibetan representatives, under PLA military pressure, signed a seventeen-point agreement with the PRC's Central People's Government affirming China's sovereignty over Tibet. Ah yes, China has been living very peacefully indeed.

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  • This is ridiculous. Tibet has been under Chinese administration for centuries. Go to a library and find our yourself. You've been fooled by some ignorant and/or biased journalists who know abso-fucking-lutely nothing about history.

  • Why the Sinophilia? The Chinese human rights record in the Tibet region is simply atrocious. I agree with the statement that the United States has suffered certain shortcomings in its foreign policy, but as for China 'living peacefully within its own borders'? Try telling that to the Tibetan communities currently living in exile in India.

  • The US is intent on militarising space. Soon the People's Republic of China will be powerful enough to deter the imperialist agressor and help ensure that space is sued to improve the lives of all humanity.

  • The US is intent on militarising space. The People's Republic of China will soon be powerful enough to deter the imperialist agressor and ensure that space is used for the peaceful improvement of the entire human race.

  • In any case, there isn't any 'debate' about the Apollo Moon landings. Even China accepts them as fact. The only debate is why a bunch of youtubers' would vouch for the veracity of information emanating from a secretive communist dictatorship whilst actively denying the historical data emanating from one of the most open and public societies on Earth.

  • Presumably that is the same 'open and public society' that since 1945 has been invading countries and slaughtering the innocent in their millions, whilst the 'secretive communist dictatorship' has been living peacefully within its borders and lifting hundreds of millions of its own people out of poverty?

  • Not to mention that science also progresses through a peer review process. Any hint of an erroneous conclusion and a particular scientist can face academic ostracism and cancellation of funding/ employment prospects. Are we to believe that the worldwide academic community simply sat by while NASA handed them paper mache rocks?

  • Unfortunately, science doesn't advance based on the testimony of liars. The lunar samples returned from the Apollo missions were all examined independently in international research laboratories that have no affiliation with the US government. The conclusion? All Apollo samples are genuine evidence of lunar material. The results? An evolution in our understanding of how our two planet system formed.

  • guydecervens (3 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam

    the Appollo missions were an elaborate but pathetic hoax.

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    please open your mind and think of it : if USA lied , russians must have grasped such an opportunity to humiliate americans.

  • Well, the debate will soon be over. Is it possible for humans to pass through the Van Allen belts without substantial shielding, as the US claim they did? I am personally convinced they moon adventures of the Appollo missions were an elaborate but pathetic hoax. Just look at the evidence and not some conclusion based on 'the scientists wouldn't lie' theory. I'm afraid scientists like all humans do in fact tell lies.

  • Why would climatologist's, geologists, microbiologist's or and other party who has a vested interest in planetary geology and extraterrestrial rock/surface formations, deliberately airbrush photographs? No scientist would stand by while research evidence (hard fought through years of preparation) is destroyed via airbrush.

  • welcome to the moon!

  • welcome to moon!

  • I bet NASA is nervous....But they might be footing the bill on this mission as long as they keep their mouth shut about what they see and find.

    I personally don't want to see any more NASA Moon and Mars pictures with airbrush marks all over them.

  • Another Apollo finding:

    The lunar magma ocean was followed by a series of huge asteroid impacts that created basins which were later filled by lava flows.

    The large, dark basins such as Mare Imbrium are gigantic impact craters, formed early in lunar history, that were later filled by lava flows about 3.2-3.9 billion years ago. Lunar volcanism occurred mostly as lava floods that spread horizontally; volcanic fire fountains produced deposits of orange and emerald-green glass beads.

  • Some Apollo findings:

    Moon rock ages range from about 3.2 billion years in the maria (dark, low basins) to nearly 4.6 billion years in the terrae (light, rugged highlands). Active geologic forces, including plate tectonics and erosion, continuously repave the oldest surfaces on Earth whereas old surfaces persist with little disturbance on the Moon.

  • The Apollo moon landing missions 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 are accepted as fact by the worldwide scientific and technical community. The missions were all tracked and verified by independent nations, including the principle opponent of the US, the USSR. Several new minerals were revealed during the Apollo missions, previously unknown to terrestrial science.

  • Apollo astronauts never been on the moon.

    Search you tube for "moon landing conspiracy"

  • Apollo astronauts never been on the moon.

    Hope this chinese probe will make few picture of the sea of tranquilliti to finally prove that thanks to nasa intention to win cold war, human race still 40 years beind in space exploration

  • moonwine (5 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as

    Apollo astronauts never been on the moon.

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    what?!he he , you are telling a joke. do you?

    those american astronauts are heroes in my childhood. you mean they are liars?

  • They where mi hero to.

    But i can not ignore the fact.

    They never landing on the moon.

  • Successful launch today. Well done to China. This mission will show the extent of Van Allan Belts and protection needed for Manned missions outside earth orbit. The US lies about Appollo missions will be exposed like WMD and Democracy!

  • Democracy is a good thing we wanted. if we can get it ,china can develop faster. anyway , thank you for your attention.

  • Almighty China!

  • ADD OIL, China

  • great!

    i like it!

  • Add oil, China!

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