I truly love BJJ and very passionate about this martial art... I wonder... I'm a big fan of Shane Carwin as well and instead of training BJJ at his gym why doesn't he go to Gracie University? I don't know if theres any rule or anything but yeah...
@PhunkieProdiG Generally fighters train at one gym and training with others is frowned upon. Its like you have a gym membership, you pay for your trainers and stuff, and if you go somewhere else what's the point? Say nothing for personal ties and PR.
@kirokyukan triangles is because of jiujitsu's obvious influence IT had on catch wrestling, not the other way around. As far as your "history lesson", hopefully you recognize the further pankration spread east the more it branched away from the pankration found in Greece, and by the time the West reencountered the East over a millennium later martial arts shared very little with their counterparts. So saying that it was perhaps c.w. rather than JJ that created the triangle would be ludicrous.
@TurdFurginson Actually the Triangle is a Judo move. The technique does not exist in any JJJ scrolls. Of course I am quoting from the book "Shime Waza" by Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki. Yes Catch did take techniques - from everyone though not just Judo and hardly any from JJJ, since this style was becoming extinct at the time. JJJ instructors began calling their styles Judo and practicing in the Kodokan manner.
@kirokyukan I said "jiujitsu", not "JJJ". There's a pretty discerning difference: jiujitsu is an umbrella term for classical Japanese jiujitsu, judo, aikido, Brazilian jiujitsu, etc. While traditional Japanese jiujitsu had been and still is less popular than some of it's descendants, the principles and techniques are still widely practiced in mentioned arts to this day.
@kirokyukan I'm not arguing semantics budro. An analogy would be you saying "Sports involve a lot of tackling" and I counter with "No, sports is a broad term, so which sport are you talking about?". You said so yourself: a triangle is a judo move (though it is essentially just a collapsing figure four on the neck), so you answered your own question. I was simply correcting your terminology, which tends to be rather important when discussing martial arts.
Discerning proper terminology is not just semantics. Judo does not fall under the umbrella of Ju Jutsu, Judo is not a "Jutsu" it is a Gendai. "Jutsu" arts are not sports, they are meant to kill or maim and are trained for those purposes. Judo for example was designed to be a sport that allows partners to fully resist each others attacks with the thought of always having safety and mutual respect. So dont confuse yourself by thinking semantics is the only difference.
@mikey4u1984 No, judo was created as a self defense system developed by Kano Jegoro b/c he couldn't defend himself properly due to his unusually small size. Like countless other styles(e.g.- Karate, Muay Thai, TKD) that started out as martial arts, judo became sport so practioners could safely test their skills. If you don't think judo can be used to kill/maim someone, go find any decent judoka and have him O goshi you on solid concrete and try to not see stars.
@TurdFurginson Its funny you say that, O goshi is my favorite tokui waza lol, Yes Judo can be used in self defense but that is not the main purpose of Judo, this is not up for debate but its the truth. Judo purpose is to teach physical and mental strength. Judo is not up for interpretation it is what it is and if you need some clarification go to judoforum and ask some senior sensei, they are very cool and will tell you why Judo is not Ju Jutsu and cannot and shall not be used interchangeably.
@mikey4u1984 Well I stand corrected in the fact that judo/aikido/etc. aren't Jiujitsu, but my point was they all fall under the "jutsu" category, meaning they're all of Japanese orginin. If anything it wasn't so much as the philosophy behind each arts that I was discussing but rather the evolution of a technique from one style to another. Thanks for the clarification.
@TurdFurginson I think you are referring to "Budo" instead, which is specifically a Japanese umbrella of martial arts and that does include everything you mentioned but im not sure if that is what you mean. Regardless in todays age the lines of martial arts are getting very blurry, they have all taken techniques from each other and that is cool. Just stay out of Ninjitsu and Tae Kwon Do, lol.
@mikey4u1984 Judo was created for self defense. kano took what he knew from jujitsu and then organized the techniques and removed others so that moves could be practiced at full speed against a resisting opponent as he thought that live sparring was a better way to learn than in kata only. it was not developed to be a sport but to be more sophisticated than jujistu which was just a collection of random techniques. it was adopted as the art for the japanese police before it was called a sport.
@TurdFurginson "Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu" So what style of Ju Jitsu were you referrig to?
@kirokyukan What is this, 20 Questions? Take a step back, read the context of that earlier post, and see what submissions we were JUST discussing that Shamrock used. I'll let you connect the dots.
@TurdFurginson "Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu" You were referring to JJJ. So why this long speech about the value of differentiating between Ju Jitsu styles?
No, you're still not getting it. 1.) It was judo. 2.) Like I said, that was an earlier post to some idiot that obviously has no clue about jiujitsu of any shape or form. 3.) Now that I've had "this long speech about the value of differentiating jiujitsu" with you, I'd have thought you would see there is indeed a value on knowing aikido from BJJ for example. Come on, we're just getting redundant now.
JJ is originally a japanese art. Then, japanese imigrants came to Brazil nd teached it for the Gracies, they adpted it and made the actual JJ known as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
No matter what people says. Is proved. Its the most effective martial art on thw world. 90% of the ordinay fights ands on the ground, where BJJ is unbeatable.
@ferreirafsa Yeah, BJJ is very usefull when you have one guy in a triangle or maybe a RNC and his friend jumps over your head with a brick or sumthin....... BJJ is ONLY god 1 on 1... The BEST thing for self defence is to be Usain Bolt.
@TheKrille95 gracie family was the one who brought jiujitsu into this world, but brazilian jiujitsu academy nowadays dont include teaching of technique of self defence. but gracie academy still does. :)
Morons. Ken Shamrock (who never trained BJJ) used arm-triangle chokes in Pancrase before the UFC was created. Saying the Gracies "invented" the triangle choke is ridiculous.
@Swervli Morons? Buddy, they learned more about jiu-jitsu in the first decade of their lives then you'll probably ever know. They didn't say they invented the triangle choke, everyone with a brain knows that BJJ is essentially a revised system that brought back many forgotten techniques from JJJ and judo to create a complete ground fighting strategy. Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu, so theres the answer to that.
@TurdFurginson Actually the Japanese submissions were infuenced more by Catch Wrestling then vice versa. Catch Wrestler used to challenge the old Judo/Ju Jitsu schools all the time, usually winning too.
@kirokyukan No it really wasn't if you think about it; classic jiujitsu was created centuries before the West had any contact with Japan and was developed out of the necessity of unarmed/disarmed warriors fighting back armed fighters. JJJ already had dozens of hip/shoulder throws, leg reaps, arm bars, and chokes before catch wrestling was even conceived of. Catch wrestling has nearly no original submissions of its own, and took nearly every submission in the book from jiujitsu and pankration.
@TurdFurginson As far as contact goes, that wasant necessary. I'll give you a history lesson. When Alexander conquered the known world he spread Greek culture through out the Orient all the way to India. You Following me? India is the birth place of Budhism which is the father of Shaolin Martial Art which in turn is (arguably) the father of Chinese Martial Arts. The Japanese learned a shit load from the Chinese including their fighting methods.
@TurdFurginson The Japanese then took what they learned and mixed it with what they already knew ie Zen Budhism, Karate, and yes even JJ.
Besides this connection however is the direct contact between Catch fighters and Judokas at the turn of the century. Ed Santel was one such fighter who challenged and defeated the entire Kodokan - anybody willing atleast. Through out the yrs both have infulenced one or another, but there are reasons why Catch Wrestling was preserved in Japan.
You don't seem to be following me. Yes I'm very aware that judo (not JJJ) and catch wrestling emerged around the same time period, and as a result of that they both developed similar techniques (e.g.- fireman's carry and o goshis). What you don't seem to understand is that catch wrestling is essentially folkstyle wrestling that uses almost all of it's SUBMISSIONS from arts that long preceded it. This leads up to my point that the reason why wrestlers like Shamrock were aware of techniques like
i knew shane was screwed when the arm triangle was put in but i didnt realize why he let it happen or all the technique needed to put it in. thx for this video
not everyone uses bjj or jiu-jitsu in mma but some style of grappling not bashing the graices at all just saying just because your learning any style let alone popular ones doesn't make you unbeatable its the fighter,but seriously the reason why some guys beat other guys with grappling because their opponent doesn't know how defend against grappling just saying.
I think it might be because BJJ focuses almost exclusively on ground fighting.
Some styles are just inferior in certain parts. Like judo now that it has banned leg attacks (dbl leg ) now that nobody can dbl leg during a comp there is no more need to train the counters and it gets fazed out.
Of course a person whose trained in grappling/striking is going to beat an untrained guy. That's why you train in the first place.
As with all true martial arts you are not only training your physical abilities, but also your mind set on life and generally to become a mentally healthy and better person in general. It also shows practical 1 vs 1 defense for someone who may be smaller than their attacker (woman or just a smaller guy).
brock is really developing...at first i viewed him as a brute without technique...but he's learning technique prevails....however i would like to see brock work from a closed guard
just like the gracies wanted, sheep. i couldnt give less of a fuck than i do now if they are brazilian or if there dad is rolls fuckin royce much less that scrawny steroid fuck royce gracie (and you yelling doesnt make you right). these gracies mortals are you gods not mine, i dont worship humans
The reffing in this fight was disgusting. ANY other ref would have ended the fight NUMEROUS times - even during the same night.
Herb Dean would have ended the fight half way thru the 1st round.
It was great to see it continue, but let's be consistent with the officiating. This was obviously a planned decision delay from the ref and Dana White.
Again, fine, if that is the way going forward, but Lesnar was NOT defending himself - NOT even close!
Title/contender fights are never stoped early. For example, Carwin litterally beat down Mir until he was unconsious before the fight was stoped. Lesnar beat Mir down pretty bad before that fight was stoped as well.
Re-wach the fight, most of those blows from Carwin hit Lesnar's forearm's, not his head, and Lesnar never showed signs of being unconsious.
Don't blame Dana because Carwin has horrible staminia and couldn't last more than a round.
Remember guys no body has hit Brock Lesnar every hard in his life like Carwin did. The one that comes to mind is Brock going head first with his Shooting Star Press.
So now Brock know whats it's like to be hit really hard and be able to still fight
To me the fight with Carwin was the best thing that could of happen to Brock Lesnar
Reason 1: Brock face someone his own size
Reason 2: Brock knew he could give pain but he now knows he can take it too
Reason 3: Because Brock was hit so hard by Carwin and still won, in time Brock should be able to boxs and kick better and still have his wrestling and BJJ
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@link10304 I am what I am and as long as I stay effective then so be it vs another boxer or any other art including bjj. If I were still fighting I would not have been stupid and fought a bjj without studying it - news to you my friend - every martial art has its weak points, blind spots and vulnerable spots what ever you wanna call it - I would have worked on mine and found the their bjj - just for the record.
@Paul3love i do Boxing too well used to ive Boxed a few times in europe as a amature won 3 national titles i love Boxing but ive moved on now from it tho and know hope to take up Jiu Jitsu preferbly Brazilian but i dont have any BJJ clubs near me BJJ is like Boxing in a way its a game of chess one wrong move and you get puinshed big style
@link10304 sometimes you can get away with it but its like the matrix in there - all slow motion and you cant avoid the punch or you think 'shit, that was a crap punch he is gonna counter that no prob' and to those watching its all in a mili second - anyway - ref MMA to scared to come across to boxing old kimbo is thinking of just that! That would be interesting...
The space generator from the arm triangle should not be attempted to be held for an extended period, rather carwin should have placed his elbow directly into brock's ear/temple/back of head and used leverage to pry himself free. Elbow crowbar to the ear/temple hurts like a bitch. Like having your head in a vice
I just found there videos. As a UFC fan who doesn't train in MMA I have to say these videos are great. A nice understanding and a lot of things I missed.
just started taking ju-jitsu (machado bjj), and these breakdowns really help the beginner understand the complexities of the subs and counters. keep the vids coming guys.
Please break down Anderson vs Chael. Because unless I was seeing things? Anderson had a Triangle Choke, an armbar, and a leg lock all in one. Crazy. When you look @ the replay? Anderson employed some very crazy BJJ by securing Chael's leg over his stomach, of course the arm, and the triangle. I've never seen 3 submissions in 1 EVER in MMA. PLEASE break it down! Thank you sirs!
The problem for Carwin was that he thought Lesner was going to pound the hell out of him so only had the thought of defending punches. It would now appear that Lesner has in fact learnt some martial arts. This is a judo move which even the Gracie's said they wouldn't necessarily use and isn't overly successful but then again Lesner is so strong he can just force it to work.
I love it how Brock beat Carwin at Mirs game. I hear Franky boy did not watch the fight.....I'm not even going to attempt to watch the Nog v. Mir II, can't believe the UFC is even going to have this one......waste of time and money. Mirs career is swirling around the toilet bowl.
these punks did each other after this vid! too too too much googlie touching and smiling going on. I think the blue pants guy takes it and the other gives it... naw both of them take and receive it to each other. LOL!!
How can people watch Gracie Breakdown, and then DEAR to press Dislike??
fredrikthepussycat 1 month ago
@fredrikthepussycat *dare. But yes, I agree with you. I just discovered them and they are amazing.
MrWp97 1 month ago
What about answering the phone?
superphatT01 1 month ago
Where is Brock Lessnar??
mrsampo 2 months ago
why didnt u guys do the chris lytle and matt brown submission
erns928 7 months ago
"I've never been caught in an arm triangle in my life"
Iaintom 8 months ago
9:27 was crazy .. he transitioned into the triangle unbelievably quickly! Much respect to the gracie's!
15leighton 8 months ago
If shade flipped over like that got up an knocked him out probable the most awesome thing ever
harris0n5 11 months ago
Love these breakdown analysis. Much appreciated.
haitianxu 11 months ago
the guy with white pants is on crack, for sure.
ScreamarN 11 months ago
Amazing.
Manny1222 11 months ago
I truly love BJJ and very passionate about this martial art... I wonder... I'm a big fan of Shane Carwin as well and instead of training BJJ at his gym why doesn't he go to Gracie University? I don't know if theres any rule or anything but yeah...
PhunkieProdiG 1 year ago
@PhunkieProdiG Generally fighters train at one gym and training with others is frowned upon. Its like you have a gym membership, you pay for your trainers and stuff, and if you go somewhere else what's the point? Say nothing for personal ties and PR.
pwnage333 10 months ago
@pwnage333 ?
PhunkieProdiG 10 months ago
@kirokyukan triangles is because of jiujitsu's obvious influence IT had on catch wrestling, not the other way around. As far as your "history lesson", hopefully you recognize the further pankration spread east the more it branched away from the pankration found in Greece, and by the time the West reencountered the East over a millennium later martial arts shared very little with their counterparts. So saying that it was perhaps c.w. rather than JJ that created the triangle would be ludicrous.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson Actually the Triangle is a Judo move. The technique does not exist in any JJJ scrolls. Of course I am quoting from the book "Shime Waza" by Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki. Yes Catch did take techniques - from everyone though not just Judo and hardly any from JJJ, since this style was becoming extinct at the time. JJJ instructors began calling their styles Judo and practicing in the Kodokan manner.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan I said "jiujitsu", not "JJJ". There's a pretty discerning difference: jiujitsu is an umbrella term for classical Japanese jiujitsu, judo, aikido, Brazilian jiujitsu, etc. While traditional Japanese jiujitsu had been and still is less popular than some of it's descendants, the principles and techniques are still widely practiced in mentioned arts to this day.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson Now your going to argue over semantics? Please tell me what style of Ju jitsu created the triangle, be it JJJ BJJ or anything between?
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan I'm not arguing semantics budro. An analogy would be you saying "Sports involve a lot of tackling" and I counter with "No, sports is a broad term, so which sport are you talking about?". You said so yourself: a triangle is a judo move (though it is essentially just a collapsing figure four on the neck), so you answered your own question. I was simply correcting your terminology, which tends to be rather important when discussing martial arts.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson
Discerning proper terminology is not just semantics. Judo does not fall under the umbrella of Ju Jutsu, Judo is not a "Jutsu" it is a Gendai. "Jutsu" arts are not sports, they are meant to kill or maim and are trained for those purposes. Judo for example was designed to be a sport that allows partners to fully resist each others attacks with the thought of always having safety and mutual respect. So dont confuse yourself by thinking semantics is the only difference.
mikey4u1984 1 year ago
@mikey4u1984 No, judo was created as a self defense system developed by Kano Jegoro b/c he couldn't defend himself properly due to his unusually small size. Like countless other styles(e.g.- Karate, Muay Thai, TKD) that started out as martial arts, judo became sport so practioners could safely test their skills. If you don't think judo can be used to kill/maim someone, go find any decent judoka and have him O goshi you on solid concrete and try to not see stars.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson Its funny you say that, O goshi is my favorite tokui waza lol, Yes Judo can be used in self defense but that is not the main purpose of Judo, this is not up for debate but its the truth. Judo purpose is to teach physical and mental strength. Judo is not up for interpretation it is what it is and if you need some clarification go to judoforum and ask some senior sensei, they are very cool and will tell you why Judo is not Ju Jutsu and cannot and shall not be used interchangeably.
mikey4u1984 1 year ago
@mikey4u1984 Well I stand corrected in the fact that judo/aikido/etc. aren't Jiujitsu, but my point was they all fall under the "jutsu" category, meaning they're all of Japanese orginin. If anything it wasn't so much as the philosophy behind each arts that I was discussing but rather the evolution of a technique from one style to another. Thanks for the clarification.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson I think you are referring to "Budo" instead, which is specifically a Japanese umbrella of martial arts and that does include everything you mentioned but im not sure if that is what you mean. Regardless in todays age the lines of martial arts are getting very blurry, they have all taken techniques from each other and that is cool. Just stay out of Ninjitsu and Tae Kwon Do, lol.
mikey4u1984 1 year ago
@mikey4u1984 God don't even get me started on TKD haha but ya I think you get my point.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@mikey4u1984 Judo was created for self defense. kano took what he knew from jujitsu and then organized the techniques and removed others so that moves could be practiced at full speed against a resisting opponent as he thought that live sparring was a better way to learn than in kata only. it was not developed to be a sport but to be more sophisticated than jujistu which was just a collection of random techniques. it was adopted as the art for the japanese police before it was called a sport.
afhostie 11 months ago
@TurdFurginson "Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu" So what style of Ju Jitsu were you referrig to?
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan What is this, 20 Questions? Take a step back, read the context of that earlier post, and see what submissions we were JUST discussing that Shamrock used. I'll let you connect the dots.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson "Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu" You were referring to JJJ. So why this long speech about the value of differentiating between Ju Jitsu styles?
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan *Face palm*
No, you're still not getting it. 1.) It was judo. 2.) Like I said, that was an earlier post to some idiot that obviously has no clue about jiujitsu of any shape or form. 3.) Now that I've had "this long speech about the value of differentiating jiujitsu" with you, I'd have thought you would see there is indeed a value on knowing aikido from BJJ for example. Come on, we're just getting redundant now.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
you guys are brilliant thank you so much
jakedanx 1 year ago
what is the different between brazilian jiu jitsu and gracie jiu jitsu?
TheKrille95 1 year ago 8
@TheKrille95
in the simplest sense
BJJ is primarily taught as a sport and for use in a sporting context
GJJ is taught first and foremost as a method of self defense for street fights, which can also be applied inside the ring
bobbybushae339 8 months ago 2
@TheKrille95 Gracie Jiu Jitsu is seen as self defense and BJJ is seen as a sport.
thatkindofguy234 7 months ago
@TheKrille95 Lineage and mostly Self Defense..
702decatur 6 months ago
@TheKrille95
Its the same thing.
JJ is originally a japanese art. Then, japanese imigrants came to Brazil nd teached it for the Gracies, they adpted it and made the actual JJ known as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
ferreirafsa 5 months ago
No matter what people says. Is proved. Its the most effective martial art on thw world. 90% of the ordinay fights ands on the ground, where BJJ is unbeatable.
ferreirafsa 5 months ago
@ferreirafsa Yeah, BJJ is very usefull when you have one guy in a triangle or maybe a RNC and his friend jumps over your head with a brick or sumthin....... BJJ is ONLY god 1 on 1... The BEST thing for self defence is to be Usain Bolt.
HiGHT87 4 months ago
@HiGHT87
Lol. Agreed, run out and get rid of problems.
ferreirafsa 4 months ago
@TheKrille95 there isn't one.
madzyadzy07 1 month ago
@TheKrille95 gracie family was the one who brought jiujitsu into this world, but brazilian jiujitsu academy nowadays dont include teaching of technique of self defence. but gracie academy still does. :)
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Thanks guys for fully explaining one of my favorite subs.
TheMackster622 1 year ago
Thanks guys for fully explaining one of my favorite subs.
TheMackster622 1 year ago
Pause at 1:32
Chineserijstwafel 1 year ago
Morons. Ken Shamrock (who never trained BJJ) used arm-triangle chokes in Pancrase before the UFC was created. Saying the Gracies "invented" the triangle choke is ridiculous.
Swervli 1 year ago
@Swervli Morons? Buddy, they learned more about jiu-jitsu in the first decade of their lives then you'll probably ever know. They didn't say they invented the triangle choke, everyone with a brain knows that BJJ is essentially a revised system that brought back many forgotten techniques from JJJ and judo to create a complete ground fighting strategy. Shamrock trained in catch wrestling, which borrows a lot of submissions from jiu-jitsu, so theres the answer to that.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson Actually the Japanese submissions were infuenced more by Catch Wrestling then vice versa. Catch Wrestler used to challenge the old Judo/Ju Jitsu schools all the time, usually winning too.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan No it really wasn't if you think about it; classic jiujitsu was created centuries before the West had any contact with Japan and was developed out of the necessity of unarmed/disarmed warriors fighting back armed fighters. JJJ already had dozens of hip/shoulder throws, leg reaps, arm bars, and chokes before catch wrestling was even conceived of. Catch wrestling has nearly no original submissions of its own, and took nearly every submission in the book from jiujitsu and pankration.
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson As far as contact goes, that wasant necessary. I'll give you a history lesson. When Alexander conquered the known world he spread Greek culture through out the Orient all the way to India. You Following me? India is the birth place of Budhism which is the father of Shaolin Martial Art which in turn is (arguably) the father of Chinese Martial Arts. The Japanese learned a shit load from the Chinese including their fighting methods.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@TurdFurginson The Japanese then took what they learned and mixed it with what they already knew ie Zen Budhism, Karate, and yes even JJ.
Besides this connection however is the direct contact between Catch fighters and Judokas at the turn of the century. Ed Santel was one such fighter who challenged and defeated the entire Kodokan - anybody willing atleast. Through out the yrs both have infulenced one or another, but there are reasons why Catch Wrestling was preserved in Japan.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
You don't seem to be following me. Yes I'm very aware that judo (not JJJ) and catch wrestling emerged around the same time period, and as a result of that they both developed similar techniques (e.g.- fireman's carry and o goshis). What you don't seem to understand is that catch wrestling is essentially folkstyle wrestling that uses almost all of it's SUBMISSIONS from arts that long preceded it. This leads up to my point that the reason why wrestlers like Shamrock were aware of techniques like
TurdFurginson 1 year ago
i knew shane was screwed when the arm triangle was put in but i didnt realize why he let it happen or all the technique needed to put it in. thx for this video
kazyBarbarian 1 year ago
AWESOME VIDEO. MY NEW FAVORITE CHANNEL
Slaylimpbizkit 1 year ago
lol 2 necks
DntlB 1 year ago
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ThatOGDon 1 year ago
not everyone uses bjj or jiu-jitsu in mma but some style of grappling not bashing the graices at all just saying just because your learning any style let alone popular ones doesn't make you unbeatable its the fighter,but seriously the reason why some guys beat other guys with grappling because their opponent doesn't know how defend against grappling just saying.
wotgr 1 year ago
@wotgr
Fedor trains Sambo.
Sonnen doesn't like BJJ cuz its for teh gays.
I think it might be because BJJ focuses almost exclusively on ground fighting.
Some styles are just inferior in certain parts. Like judo now that it has banned leg attacks (dbl leg ) now that nobody can dbl leg during a comp there is no more need to train the counters and it gets fazed out.
Of course a person whose trained in grappling/striking is going to beat an untrained guy. That's why you train in the first place.
ThatOGDon 1 year ago
you guys are so knowledgable and such good teachers. i love watching these breakdowns. u boys keep it real!
bigtomo69er 1 year ago
nice for people tryin to learn to be a fighter but there isnt anyone with matches posted on you tube
domination3560 1 year ago
GOOD SHOW! I love it
motorola113 1 year ago
This is incredible GOOD
ticosexy22 1 year ago
Nice feed back of both being caught in that technique and counters for it.
Pinchi Patrick !
PinchiCabrones 1 year ago
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Nice feed back.
Pinchi Patrick !
PinchiCabrones 1 year ago
Nice feed back.
Pinchi Patrick !
PinchiCabrones 1 year ago
BROCK VELASQUEZ!!!!!!!! PLS
kbthegreat1990 1 year ago
I love learning from these dudes.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
the gracie family has my full respect......they are realy smart fighters witch makes them very dangerous.....good work guys :)
sloebereu 1 year ago
FAGOTSSSSS
slash17rockz 1 year ago
fags
darpachief 1 year ago
@darpachief if there fags why are you watching them
jarraidjitsu 1 year ago
When my father created the universe to showcase the interdimensional supremacy of Gracie Jiu Jitsu...
Daffanka 1 year ago
CRAP
mauzeberg 1 year ago
these guys look like guys that have been lying ontop of other guys abit too much for their own good.
henrythecat11111 1 year ago
how will jiu jitsu make the world better ?? PLEASE CAN SUM ONE BREAK THAT DOWN FOR ME COMPREHENSIVELY and without being abusive
ali1278 1 year ago
@ali1278
"If You want peace, Prepare for War" -Julius Caesar
Everyone is polite when anyone can take you out.
"Only the dead have seen the end of war" -Plato
Conflict is what humans do, Either we are evolved animals as Darwin says, Or We are made by God as religions say.
Abram killed the foe of Melchizedek and was found righteous enough to be the 1st of Gods people on earth.
Animals kill, I shouldn't have to say more.
My point is that either way we're hardwired for conflict.
It is what we do.
americanbandwidth 1 year ago
@americanbandwidth
If you want peace, Prepare for War- Children of Bodom (polish death metal) =D\m/ \m/
indianbadass4568 1 year ago
@indianbadass4568 They are from Finland, not Poland xD
TheJacksterman 1 year ago
@TheJacksterman
=O.
indianbadass4568 1 year ago
@indianbadass4568 Simple mistake! :D
TheJacksterman 1 year ago
@ali1278
As with all true martial arts you are not only training your physical abilities, but also your mind set on life and generally to become a mentally healthy and better person in general. It also shows practical 1 vs 1 defense for someone who may be smaller than their attacker (woman or just a smaller guy).
mmafan400 1 year ago
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great breakdown thank you!
faada 1 year ago
great breakdown thank you
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faada 1 year ago
If they shot this same video on the beach with the Ricky Martin song Bella playing in the background... would that be gay? Ha!
HappySCVResident 1 year ago
Gracie Jiu Jitsu is too legit to quit!!!!
cainben895 1 year ago
Great vid. One of the best breakdowns I've seen. Keep up the good work guys
philipjpearson 1 year ago
brock is really developing...at first i viewed him as a brute without technique...but he's learning technique prevails....however i would like to see brock work from a closed guard
Ram1992D 1 year ago
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goodwork
skystar320GB 1 year ago
omg Gracies. Yeah BJJ is an effective style of MMA but get the fuck over it. You guys act like BJJ is the only good style of mma.
carven2004eca 1 year ago
@carven2004eca what a hater u R?
wally316 1 year ago
@carven2004eca watch and learn dude ...and shut up.
abradras 1 year ago
Quality!
Joeysantoro 1 year ago
brilliant video. really enjoyable
diddydid 1 year ago
Subscribed :)
dooooooer 1 year ago
awesome breakdown, id love to take a jiu jitsu class, maybe I will.
overtkill7 1 year ago
nice video thnx guys :)
MMAPRIDE2k 1 year ago
hehe Cain is gonna pwn Brock, unless Brock is gonna go Carwin on him
deadzior 1 year ago
@deadzior Cain's finished :D
FinalMassMonster 1 year ago
So much enthusiasm, dude in the blue shirt
"such huge necks"
kbthegreat1990 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this, its truly very appreciated.
thepassionofanna 1 year ago
If you dont know jiu-jitsu your not a fighter!!
pyroflash93 1 year ago
Lol, their dad is not Royce.
randumo24 1 year ago
Jiu-jitsu at it's best. An honor to have watched true experts of the Arts.
hackman2008 1 year ago 23
Thank you, very informative.
alfonso2501 1 year ago
these two are way to dramatic and too much theatrics....especially in the first 1 and 1/2. and it sounds like they struggling with english
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA Yeah well they are brazillian and u struggle with grammar!
wirybigstef 1 year ago
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@wirybigstef
yeah well this is youtube, not english class or a resume
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA They are brazillian and their dad is f&cking ROYCE GRACIE. Bow down kiss his ring.
Sapexec 1 year ago
@Sapexec
just like the gracies wanted, sheep. i couldnt give less of a fuck than i do now if they are brazilian or if there dad is rolls fuckin royce much less that scrawny steroid fuck royce gracie (and you yelling doesnt make you right). these gracies mortals are you gods not mine, i dont worship humans
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA
well said, whatever your name is...
FinalMassMonster 1 year ago
@FinalMassMonster
thanks
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
Great video coming from the best name in BJJ
thekrypto73 1 year ago
The reffing in this fight was disgusting. ANY other ref would have ended the fight NUMEROUS times - even during the same night.
Herb Dean would have ended the fight half way thru the 1st round.
It was great to see it continue, but let's be consistent with the officiating. This was obviously a planned decision delay from the ref and Dana White.
Again, fine, if that is the way going forward, but Lesnar was NOT defending himself - NOT even close!
Carwin was robbed, but is was a great fight.
LancelotLink100 1 year ago
@LancelotLink100
Carwin was not robbed.
Title/contender fights are never stoped early. For example, Carwin litterally beat down Mir until he was unconsious before the fight was stoped. Lesnar beat Mir down pretty bad before that fight was stoped as well.
Re-wach the fight, most of those blows from Carwin hit Lesnar's forearm's, not his head, and Lesnar never showed signs of being unconsious.
Don't blame Dana because Carwin has horrible staminia and couldn't last more than a round.
kjw19stl 1 year ago
WELL THIS IS GAY
CraigM1990 1 year ago
Love these breakdown videos, and the enthusiasm these guys have for BJJ. I hope they make a video for every fight that contains BJJ finishes.
piratebri 1 year ago
Remember guys no body has hit Brock Lesnar every hard in his life like Carwin did. The one that comes to mind is Brock going head first with his Shooting Star Press.
So now Brock know whats it's like to be hit really hard and be able to still fight
Wilson1T 1 year ago
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To me the fight with Carwin was the best thing that could of happen to Brock Lesnar
Reason 1: Brock face someone his own size
Reason 2: Brock knew he could give pain but he now knows he can take it too
Reason 3: Because Brock was hit so hard by Carwin and still won, in time Brock should be able to boxs and kick better and still have his wrestling and BJJ
Wilson1T 1 year ago
How many times do you think Cain has watched this???
harpor34 1 year ago 61
@harpor34 Cain's BJJ is very solid, he's not getting caught in this.
underdogs247 1 year ago
@underdogs247 I don't think he really has a choice.
sixSyxxsix 1 year ago
@harpor34 i would say hundreds but when he tried to type the name in the computer broke
somesaiyanguy41 1 year ago
@harpor34 once :) then he has it down :)
2516lego 1 year ago
@harpor34 How many times were you voted up???
dss103 1 year ago
@harpor34 597
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@harpor34 and it worked!
hdpasd123lol 1 year ago
this is awesome, thx:) i understand more now:)
7RonaldoRooney10 1 year ago
Amazing information. These videos show the sport for what it really is. Art.
WonderExperience 1 year ago
great breakdown.. heh.. loved the moment at 6:00 ...
"if you have a 285 pound...." *thinks for a moment* "... person.." :D :D :P
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MMAonline24 1 year ago
There's always counter in every dangerous technique.
proton101 1 year ago
as a boxer I am shit scared of the MMA and UFC - thanks to you both I train like a beast. this is very interesting - scary but interesting
Paul3love 1 year ago
as a boxer I am shit scared of the MMA and UFC - thanks to you both I train like a beast. this is very interesting
Paul3love 1 year ago
@Paul3love u dont need to be scared of MMA its BJJ.
link10304 1 year ago
@link10304 I am what I am and as long as I stay effective then so be it vs another boxer or any other art including bjj. If I were still fighting I would not have been stupid and fought a bjj without studying it - news to you my friend - every martial art has its weak points, blind spots and vulnerable spots what ever you wanna call it - I would have worked on mine and found the their bjj - just for the record.
Paul3love 1 year ago
@Paul3love i do Boxing too well used to ive Boxed a few times in europe as a amature won 3 national titles i love Boxing but ive moved on now from it tho and know hope to take up Jiu Jitsu preferbly Brazilian but i dont have any BJJ clubs near me BJJ is like Boxing in a way its a game of chess one wrong move and you get puinshed big style
link10304 1 year ago
@link10304 sometimes you can get away with it but its like the matrix in there - all slow motion and you cant avoid the punch or you think 'shit, that was a crap punch he is gonna counter that no prob' and to those watching its all in a mili second - anyway - ref MMA to scared to come across to boxing old kimbo is thinking of just that! That would be interesting...
Paul3love 1 year ago
as a boxer I am shit scared of the MMA and UFC - thanks to you both I train like a beast.
Paul3love 1 year ago
Good breakdown boyz!
nagone11 1 year ago
the guy in the white reminds me a lot of Kendall Grove
crazyjake29 1 year ago
@iggy082 its already on their page :)
xAnastasia1990x 1 year ago
Interesting!
themostboringman 1 year ago
they better be working on a breakdown vid for the silva / sonnen fight!
iggy082 1 year ago
@iggy082 there is one....
tthhoommaa300 1 year ago
is this gay porn?
darkstar3x16 1 year ago
@darkstar3x16 only homos think like that.
bspooner21 1 year ago
@darkstar3x16 you damn right it is
crazyjake29 1 year ago
@CondemnedPhury
Actually I am Renzo Gracie...so yeah, asshole ;)
dalton2317 1 year ago
The space generator from the arm triangle should not be attempted to be held for an extended period, rather carwin should have placed his elbow directly into brock's ear/temple/back of head and used leverage to pry himself free. Elbow crowbar to the ear/temple hurts like a bitch. Like having your head in a vice
youtubejonas 1 year ago
thanks so much for this breakdown, true class and masters.
God bless guys.
junglelord 1 year ago
I just found there videos. As a UFC fan who doesn't train in MMA I have to say these videos are great. A nice understanding and a lot of things I missed.
randomgai1234 1 year ago
fake fight!!!
flaviovms 1 year ago
you fools, that fight was fake.
flaviovms 1 year ago
just started taking ju-jitsu (machado bjj), and these breakdowns really help the beginner understand the complexities of the subs and counters. keep the vids coming guys.
81coldbeerz 1 year ago
that last move was similar to the triangle choke that Anderson Silva used
rayzeos116 1 year ago
Umm, carwin couldn't have survived the arm triangle because he already had one foot out the door....you guys are retarded.
dalton2317 1 year ago
these guys sound canadian.. i swear
abahawas 1 year ago
i Subbed to Gracie's, they know real MMA
501rockstar 1 year ago
EXCELENTE video, y la explicación no deja lugar a dudas!!! Son unos capos estos hermanos, la verdad!!! Saludos desde Argentina!!
juampi1985 1 year ago
Great analysis of the fight!
VastedCouth 1 year ago
fuck u
blueskysmoon19 1 year ago
hey, you're right, two necks WOULD be the best option. :)
hadleyjack 1 year ago
my fav submission
mmmikeyxx 1 year ago
Please break down Anderson vs Chael. Because unless I was seeing things? Anderson had a Triangle Choke, an armbar, and a leg lock all in one. Crazy. When you look @ the replay? Anderson employed some very crazy BJJ by securing Chael's leg over his stomach, of course the arm, and the triangle. I've never seen 3 submissions in 1 EVER in MMA. PLEASE break it down! Thank you sirs!
GuardianAngel5150 1 year ago
It's such a fascinating art/science/sport.
MatthewBearne 1 year ago
Another squeezing option that i like a lot is....squeezing my penis!
Great video, regardless!
macknificent100 1 year ago
Thank you Gracie's for taking your time to sharing this.
Damngirl10 1 year ago
Fantastic breakdown and analysis. The Gracie family legacy is in good hands.
MyMachine123 1 year ago 58
It's not so much as there is much neck to choke, as there is less space.
Fupper16 1 year ago
ha he said," true that."
dankfrank10 1 year ago
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Charles Oliveria 41 second submission by triangle/arm bar breakdown, please?
ChynaVsPotato 1 year ago
Charles Oliveria 41 second submission by triangle/arm bar breakdown, please?
ChynaVsPotato 1 year ago
nice vid i learned something.
9110909 1 year ago
The problem for Carwin was that he thought Lesner was going to pound the hell out of him so only had the thought of defending punches. It would now appear that Lesner has in fact learnt some martial arts. This is a judo move which even the Gracie's said they wouldn't necessarily use and isn't overly successful but then again Lesner is so strong he can just force it to work.
Lesner's strength is the key here.
AAAngus1 1 year ago
I love it how Brock beat Carwin at Mirs game. I hear Franky boy did not watch the fight.....I'm not even going to attempt to watch the Nog v. Mir II, can't believe the UFC is even going to have this one......waste of time and money. Mirs career is swirling around the toilet bowl.
dannyboyhoff2 1 year ago
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these punks did each other after this vid! too too too much googlie touching and smiling going on. I think the blue pants guy takes it and the other gives it... naw both of them take and receive it to each other. LOL!!
hydrobot2003 1 year ago
@hydrobot2003
you're lame and disgusting, but mostly lame.
GatsuugaX 1 year ago
@GatsuugaX - Still ROFLMAO!! you're a fag.
hydrobot2003 1 year ago
@hydrobot2003
well, i think youre a punk and talk too much about gay stuff.
and judging from your gay comment, i have also came to the conclusion that you give it AND receive it like a bitch. LOL!!
SkemeKOS 1 year ago