If we all had these cars the cash we would all globally save on petrol we would all be spending on other things this would put global economy right. And help the environment with zero emissions. But as usual the politicians and the petrol companies are just way to greedy to allow this to ever happen. They could mass produce the cars and make their cash from that as motorbikes light aircraft boats the list is endless
Hi Traqr, that is what I meant. Cutting out the production of electricity to then turn into compressed gas and instead compressing the gas onsite. This would produce significant reductions in lost energy. Of course, there are always downsides...
@PyR0Star Yep MDI is still going gang busters. They have been conning technically illiterate investors since the late1990's. Haven't sold any cars of course, as these crap mobiles are ancient technology, low power, short range and inefficient, that's the one thing they will never do.
AND WHEN !!! THE AIR OR WATER POWERED CAR , WHEN THERE WILL BE A TCHERNOBYL OR A FUKUSHIMA ON THE MOON , HYPOCRITICAL POLITICAL SYSTEM , BUSSINESSMEN ARE BITCH , APOCALYPSE NOW ??? THE EARTH THE NATURE IS SICK BUT LOT OF PEOPLE DEAD OR AGONIZE , ECOLOGIC RE EVOLUTIONS PLEASE ..........!!!
@ben210ben that is a great idea ben, but i think putting the solar panels on the car to run an electronic air compressor to perpetually fill the air tanks wold be a great idea! can someone please do this now!!!!!
@jzon999 Yea the $20,000 worth of panels you need to power the honking great compressor needed to recharge the tanks for a 5 mile range would look just dandy perched on top. I take it you slept through maths and science at school
@fizzguts just because you are using the assumption that you need a 20 grand solar panel to power whatever honking air compressor you have in your mind makes you a genius.
@jzon999 just because I know based on simple physics that you need a 20 grand solar panel to power whatever honking air compressor makes me able to work out things unlike you.
the only bad thing about electric cars is that it takes them so long to recharge so say you were to use a solar panel to recharge a battery at home. the you could use that energy to refil your air tanks in like 3 mins problem solved? no co2 for energy. or would this idea just not work?
@ben210ben Your idea would not work if you consider the rate of production vs. the rate of consumption given the maximum surface area of the solar panels you can install on the car. So you may be able to fully charge up the battery with 8 hours of sunshine and then the same amount of energy is only enough to push the car for 2 miles. It is a different story with a roof top solar panel, 8 hours of sunshine may charge enough energy for 50 miles. The size of the panel matters.
When the Patent Office informed Bob Neal that his patent claim would be denied because it was a perpetual motion machine, he built a miniature working model, put it in a suitcase, and flew to Washington DC. He plopped the engine down on the patent commissioner's desk, turned it on, and requested that he be granted his patent on the basis that the engine worked. His request was granted in 1936 with the issuing of US Patent #2030759.
Yeah fizzy and what about all the other 1000's of inventors , were they just "touting for investors " are they all "inefficient ,short range , and low power "? Or could it be someone does not wish for these inventions to come to fruition in the mass market becuase it would end there MAD
DESTRUCTIVE CONTROL of the EARTH , the truth is these clean , over unity devices will come forward with or without there consent !
30 seconds with Google would have shown you Engineair is still touting for investors. Why nothing has happened is simple because it's a shit idea. Inefficient , short range, low power
Karpen's Pile: A Battery That Produces Energy Continuously Since 1950 Exists in Romanian Museum
The "Dimitrie Leonida" National Technical Museum from Romania hosts a weird kind of battery. Built by Vasile Karpen, the pile has been working uninterrupted for 60 years. "I admit it's also hard for me to advance the idea of an overunity generator without sounding ridiculous, even if the object exists," says Nicolae Diaconescu, engineer and director of the museum.
@mikehanoo33 You know how to get rid of me no problem, but being a lying chicken shit being paid to shill for MDI you will ignore and keep ignoring my offer.
Repeating show us ONE INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI'S LIES opps CLAIMS and I'm out of here all my post pulled and I'll sing their praises
So Mr "I've bought stock in this MDI con which I can't unload and now I'm sweating" are you going to ignore this just like all the other times.
One thing the Global Elite do not want revealed is the existence of free-energy technology.
This technology has the capability of revolutionizing the world by removing oil/gas as main sources of fuel, but instead has been weaponized and used against us. Directed energy weapons and weather control are among the dangers we now face.
So what’s “crazy” about it? What would people sixty years ago have said about cell phones? “Wacky”?? How about The Wizard of Oz on an ultra-thin shiny little disc? ”Nutjob”?? What about embedding spy chips on insects? ”Insane”?? Technology has come a long way in the last 100 years.
This technology is far from sci-fi and has existed for many decades.
The first microwave oven was built in 1947 by Raytheon, a major defense contractor. What advances could they have made in the past sixty years? A look at the documentary “Star Wars in Iraq” reveals weaponry based on these technologies.
It is all too common for those in control to suppress and weaponize new technologies.
Suppression can be accomplished simply by spreading choice phrases such as “raygun nutcase”. Even the production of sci-fi TV/movies helps associate these weapons with “science fiction”. As one example, the body cloak technology portrayed in the film “Predator” is very real, and was reported in Time and WIRED magazines.
You still here fizznuts , that oil money must be treating you good , you are like a broken record , dude give it a rest , you know dam well there are plenty of over unity inventions out there that have been patented and used , the only thing that keeps the aircar from the public is idiots like you that will do or say anything for money and power , I say we all pitch in and get this asshole off the net ,how much are the paying ya ? Or did they promise you a seat in one of the survival bunkers ?
@mikehanoo33 You know how to get rid of me no problem, but being a lying chicken shit being paid to shill for MDI you will ignore and keep ignoring my offer.
Repeating show us ONE INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI'S LIES opps CLAIMS and I'm out of here all my post pulled and I'll sing their praises
So Mr "I've bought stock in this MDI con which I can't unload and now I'm sweating" are you going to ignore this just like all the other times.
@minase0906 And that response proves once again, you don't have an air car, you are lying piece of excrement with the scientific knowledge of a concrete lamp post.
Short range, 7.22km in the only published test. Horribly inefficient (5 times more energy than an equivalent electric vehicle). low powered 6 hp. A con aimed at extracting money from the technically illiterate
Google e.volution south africa for MDI lies from 2000
Most importantly, it is incredibly cost-efficient to run – according to the designers, it costs less than one Euro per 100Km (about a tenth that of a petrol car). Its mileage is about double that of the most advanced electric car (200 to 300 km or 10 hours of driving), a factor which makes a perfect choice in cities where the 80% of motorists drive at less than 60Km. The car has a top speed of 68 mph.
Quote- The Pneumatic Options Research Library is a treasure trove of information on how to gain free energy from compressed air. The most important fact to realize is that the very act of compressing air yields free energy.
@minase0906 Read what I wrote you cretin and stop posting moronic shit. Air powered vehicles are horribly inefficient. Compared to a battery electric vehicle they use five times more electricity for the same performance.
So instead of certain people spending so much time and effort trying to demonize clean energy systems and complain about how utterly wasteful it would be to use these inefficient systems ( even though air powered engines were commercially successful for many years ) how about spending that energy and time trying to improve existing technology and promoting honest technology , even if it goes outside of the box a little here and there , it all has to start somewhere , why not here ?
For half a century the air-powered locomotive was a serious contender for the top spot in transportation because of its obvious advantages: simplicity, safety, economy, and cleanliness. Air engines were commercially available and used routinely, first as metropolitan street transit and later for haulage in mines.
The term "air engine" disappeared from engineering textbooks after the 1930s and the second world war. The oil industry was established, and gas was cheap.
@hobobobo72 Enough time trying to educate idiots that a 6hp engine in a car (engineairs has a little 2 seater town car) with a 3 min run tine is DUMB. In my off time the 3 cars I've built so far keep my hand in and you? Posting on you tube saying "don't have anything better to do dude" WOW! What a terrific WASTE of electrons. If you don't get maths and physics you can't understand enough to comment on this miserable piece of crap so pay attention
Il motore può funzionare solo con aria...compressa! Per avere aria compressa bisogna avere un compressore e per avere un compressore è necessario avere energia elettrica e per avere energia elettrica ci sono centrali che bruciano combustibili fossili. Questo è lo stesso problema del nucleare, per sfruttare l'uranio bisogna avere energia per estrarlo e lavorarlo; tutto questo è da stupidi, un giro della morte per nascondere tecnologie affini ai combustibili più comuni.
@Karouomo The energy potential of tidal basins is large — the largest facility, the La Rance station in France, generates 240 megawatts of power. Wind Energy Center in Texas. This wind farm has 421 wind turbines that generate a total capacity of 735 megawatts.Nine parabolic trough plants, totaling over. 350 megawatts (MW) of electric generation, have been in daily operation in the California Mojave Desert . WE DON'T HAVE TO USE DIRTY FUEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mikehanoo33 Concordo, ma in termini di efficienza, essa viene a ridursi quando si fanno più conversioni di energia. Per esempio dal fotovoltaico all'elettrico, elettrico all'aria compressa ed essa ad un motore ad aria. Non avrebbe maggior rendimento un motore elttrico con una qualsiasi fonte energetica pulita? Inoltre l'intero processo non sarebbe inutile se un motore ad aria è meno efficiente in termini energetici di uno elettrico? Prima ho detto fossili perché in Italia importiamo carbone.
Di Pietro agreed energy was lost as heat when compressed air cooled but said that his company had developed a system that could regain this heat. This system was not used in the new vehicle but could be used to make air-powered motors more efficient for passenger cars, he said.
The system uses the energy in compressed air to take in heat from the atmosphere as well as air. This atmospheric air is then compressed to generate more heat, which in turn is used to drive the engine.
To me, Angelo Di Pietro is a knight in shining armour and his compressed air motor is nothing short of amazing. I turned up on Angelo’s doorstep a few weeks ago to speak to him about the motor. To my surprise he let me in and made me a coffee. We talked for hours about the motorization of the world and this motor’s place in it.
@mikehanoo33 You flew all the way from the USA to Australia to visit engineair? Did you get a copy of their test results? Or is this just more lies & fantasy?
@mikehanoo33 Fuckwit I explained why I raised MDI here it's a continuation of another discussion where your fellow air car apologist rather than be crucified because of his inadequate ability to do maths had me banned. So I bought the discussion here. Piss off you don't even understand basic maths so you have nothing to contribute
Fizznuts this video is about the Australian inventor Angelo Di Pietro that developed the rotary motor , remember , we have had this conversation , this video is not about MDI , are you that stupid , really you try to come off as some backyard expert and you don't even know which video your watching , please just go away .
5 mile range?... yeah right. Fizzguts wants people to believe, all compressed air vehicles are the same. only 5 mile range. Range depends on compressed air volume and tank pressure which varies, just like any other vehicle's range varies. But he wont tell you that because he's not here to educate. He's here to attack compressed air vehicles, and that's a shame. Hatred has blinded him from being objective.
@ReeseL4D So having got me banned for one idiotic youtube post drooling adulation re air cars you're come here now. Explain to me where this huge range MDI air car is when the only test MDI posted was 7.2km = about 5 miles. I'm more than willing to pull all my posts & apologize profusely if some one, ANYONE produces and INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI's lies opps claims.
I'll watch with amusement as you wriggle away from that challenge Bwahahaha! this is more fun than Jane Austins fight club!
5 mile range, No independent testing. A con aimed at selling franchises to technical illiterates
Resse is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented
with authoritarian and abusive urges = egomaniac
He is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks. He ignores the facts
Fizzguts is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented
with authoritarian and abusive urges = egomaniac
He is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks. You have been warned.
AMBIENT HEAT: Heat is available for free from environmental sources like the Sun for heating water, building materials, or air. Heat can also be stored, or conserved, by using insulation methods. So, it can be gathered when it is freely available and used when it is needed. But Ambient Heat can also be used as an energy source. In 1900, Nikola Tesla described an invention to use the heat in the ambient air to drive an engine to produce mechanical energy and refrigerated air as a by-product.
@anelixis >>> And we all need to imagine this and believe it into power , it's time we humans use are technology that's been available for many years for the greater good !
@anelixis These inventors run these scams to suck money from technically illiterate rubes. The MDI and Enginer vehicles are short range low powered garbage
Electric companies, gas heating companies and oil companies would lose half or more of their profits with free energy available. Therefore, these companies then donate millions of dollars to governments (bribing them) to make sure that free energy devices stay out of the public market. Tactics and means of suppression include buying the patent of the free energy device from the inventor or his family, suing the inventor or patent holder and even murdering the inventor in some cases
If air powered engines suffer from range and torque etc problems, why don't just use the air to power electrical generators that load up batteries, and run the car on electric engines instead??? why take on an uphill task of inventing an air engine which would be practical enough for use? electric engines, car batteries and generators are all in their advanced stages and are readily available and comparatively cheaper and more reliable.. hmmm, come to think of it, i might just build one myself!!
@cplai i see what you mean.. perhaps this idea may not be suitable for cabs, buses and other vehicles which need to be running 24/7, but for consumer commuting, i personally find myself that for every hour i drive, it's about 2 hours that i have it parked, IF NOT MORE (office work is 8hrs). during which, onboard comps will decide whether to continue the generator. don't forget that during the 1 hour drive is also an hour's worth of charging. so given the above 1:2 ratio, tts 3 - 1 hrs charge.
@fizzguts heya i think you missed the point.. was that there is an onboard electricity generator powered by compressed air. this onboard generator will supply battery juice to the electric batteries which in turn power the main electric engine..
ROTFLMAO! so the air motor runs the generator that runs an electric motor that turns the compressor that runs the air motor that runs the generator that runs an electric motor that turns the compressor that runs the air motor etc etc etc
Bwahahaha
How about a much better idea. Bigger diameter tyres on the rear wheels so it always rolls down hill LOL
@fizzguts lol, what are you, stupid? i can't even deliver a simple idea to you in english. maybe ill try drawing it. (AIR TANK) -> (ELECTRIC GENERATOR) -> (BATTERY) -> (CAR ENGINE (ELECTRIC)) -> (END). I didn't try to propogate that its a loop system. Anyways, you sound like a spazzmatic child with all that finger pointing and cackling. Chill out, cuz if that's all youre gonna is to troll around like a clown, well, suffice it to say I got other things to do. Hope we cool.
@cplai try mechanically linking Angelo's engine to an air compressor and then taking an air storage canister to do the job. Engine drives compressor, compressor provides air for engine.
@cplai it should also be noted that generating electricity requires considerable torque as well. The other issue with this is that the air is compressed using energy from oil in one way or another but not a bad idea just the same.
@cplai No way. We could just put the compressor inside the car next to the motor (since it's so small) and stop at the gas station, connect the compressor to the plug (also used to charge battery cars), wait 3 minutes and it's done!
I think the main problems is petrol being so deep in our economics. It would revolutionize the world.
@OhNoItsJoana No, a large high pressure tank can fill it in three minutes. The compressor took four hours. I'm too sleepy to double-check my math right now, but it looks like 200 litres of air at 300bar is roughly equal to one litre of diesel fuel for raw potential energy. I don't see how this energy equation can work, though anyone who's handled air tools will tell you that the POWER density is incomparable!
This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
@thekaizer666 "If air powered engines suffer from range and torque etc problems, why don't just use the air to power electrical generators that load up batteries, and run the car on electric engines instead???'
Because that would be very inefficient. air tank to air motor to generator to battery to electric motor. Air motors are bad enough why in pluperfect hell would any one want to add another layer of inefficiency.
@thekaizer666 "why don't just use the air to power electrical generators" "why take on an uphill task of inventing an air engine which would be practical enough for use?"
And you and the poster of this drooling video can't see the howling contradiction in your post. Bloody hell. Hint you need an air motor to run the generator and that air motor and the compressed air that feeds it are where the horrendous inefficiency lies. "i might just build one myself!!" The blind leading the dim
@thekaizer666 You're over thinking that-- why not use the power that you'd use to run the compressors to fill the air tanks that you plan on using to turn the motors to crank the generators to make electricity that you'd use to power the electric car to just charge batteries? :) Cut out all of those middle steps. :D
I would take the opposite view. At present the creation of electricity comes mainly from heating water to make steam, ie creating a pressurised gas. Why take that gas and turn it into electricity with all the associated inefficiencies rather than store the compressed gas and use that directly. Far more efficient.
Hi Traqr, it has been a long time since I saw this clip and posted but from memory it is based on compressed air. There is no technical challenge to maintain the air pressure that was created from a steam driven process as the steam cools and condenses.
@DraRed73 I know, but your comment was "At present the creation of electricity comes mainly from heating water to make steam, ie creating a pressurised gas. Why take that gas and turn it into electricity with all the associated inefficiencies rather than store the compressed gas and use that directly. Far more efficient.", which is hard to do when the compressed gas (steam) would soon condense. Perhaps you meant a mechanical, steam driven compressor? Did I misinterpret you?
A BRIEF HISTORY OF AIR CARS For half a century the air-powered locomotive was a serious contender for the top spot in transportation because of its obvious advantages: simplicity, safety, economy, and cleanliness. Air engines were commercially available and used routinely, first as metropolitan street transit and later for haulage in mines.
Pastor Lindsey William, stated that the Peak oil is a hoax. The oil is plentyful enough to lower gas prices down to $0.50 a litre, yet the oil companies do not want the public to know this. And here is the Air Powered engine and today, I have yet to see one vehicle made with it. Instead I keep hearing that oil companies are threatening those who are saving the planet.
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@Topazman12 And here is the Air Powered engine and today, I have yet to see one vehicle made with it.
There are quite few cars transporters made with air engines MDI & Engineair have them in videos BUT they are and always will be, short range, slow, low powered pieces of crap
The highly revealing 12-minute video clip from 60 Minutes on the fascinating resurgence of cold fusion has now been removed by CBS. I highly suspect media censorship at work here. A supporter emailed that the embedded video from an article posted on this at examiner.com was not working. Checking back on the original links to the video revealed that a weak clip of less than two-minutes had replaced the engaging, longer original.
April 7, 2006 Wells Fargo Bank announced they finally invested $5 million of the $1 billion intended for renewable energy. Where did they invest? In a mutual fund: Carlyle/Riverstone Renewable Energy Infrastructure Fund I, L.P. Funny thing, who are the 3 largest stockholders of Carlyle Group? The answer in order of largest percentage owned. (source: Al Martin)
1. The Queen of England 2. Bush Family 3. Bin Laden Family
Only ONE published test, since removed, 7.2km This was followed by pages of increasingly hilarious "reasoning" as to how this would be increased to 200km. That was about 5 years ago. Swept volume of engine, gear ratio, wheel diameter, volume in tank give a MAXIMUM THEORETICAL range of about 35km.
My std offer find one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms MDI's lies opps claims and I'll sing their praise and pull my posts
aight thats cool just say goodbye to ferrari, lambo, masserati, porche, aston martin, jaguar and all the great fun and plesure you have driving petrol cars. in the future we're gunna be driving little trucks made of recycled plastic. what a great life its going to be.
@matawin2 >>> All of those vehicles will run just fine on clean bio degradable bio fuels . Watch the the award winning documentary "FUEL" and get excited about the clean future of fuel , I believe a combination of clean energy devices will propel us into the future , bio fuels , electric , air , and hydrogen , and I'm sure there are others that have been silenced by the oil men . So we don't need to give up are "FUN" cars , that's what they want you to believe , WE CAN "LIVE " - WITHOUT OIL !
Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism' - The widespread adoption of these new, non-polluting energy and propulsion systems will effectively replace the use of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, impacting 4.5 trillion dollars a year in world economic activity, replace the current? geo-political order with one based on decentralized abundance. (Examiner; March 21, 2009)
"St. Louis Alternative Energy Technologies Examiner" !!
Bwahahaha
You're joking right? I assumed it was some undereducated reporter writing for a loony tune tabloid pandering to deranged conspiracy nuts and you CONFIRM IT!
I have to admire your honesty while doubting your sanity.
@fizzguts --- Its still the truth , and you and most others know it , we are being lied to by the "BIG PRESS MACHINE" owned by the big money boys , so when someone steps up and tells it how it is , well I tip my hat to them , and thanks for the complement , maybe theirs hope for you after all .
@mikehanoo33 'Its still the truth" Sure is An undereducated reporter writing for a loony tune tabloid pandering to deranged conspiracy nuts.
OK It's a conspiracy by the evil water power industry to stop the coal industry opps OK It's the evil coal industry suppressing the oil industry opps OK It's the evil oil industry, millions of scientists, millions of engineers, in fact all the educated smart people plus the history of the universe all conspiring to suppress perpetual motion machines.
Do you really believe the oil companies will allow these cars to be mass produced ? Or tested fairly ? (ExxonMobil is the world's most profitable corporation. Its sales now amount to more than $1bn a day. It makes most of this money from oil, and has more to lose than any other company .)
I'm inclined to agree with you, especially after watching videos titled "Who Killed The Electric/Water Car?", "They Want Your Soul" and "The One Percent".
These giant conglomerates are just too powerful and ruthless for anyone standing in their ways.
@dreamzbeliever > Yeah when oil corporations make that kind of money they will do anything to keep it , even repeat lie's over and over until some people believe it . Truth is , air cars are very old technology , they were commercially successful during the early part of the last century , but the oil companies not only killed the industry , they even removed information from text books , and anyone daring to bring this back gets threatened , bought out , taken to court , or killed .
@dreamzbeliever "Who Killed The Electric/Water Car?", Huh???? I've seen of "who killed the electric car" Of course the electric car wasn't killed it committed suicide. Batteries are too expensive and don't last long enough.
@mikehanoo33 This is so true, and so sad. It's unbelievable that a corporation can become so powerful as to monopolize an industry as large as transportation and prevent new technologies and small businesses from surviving.
The amount of greed displayed by the corporations and their CEOs disgusts me. As a country, America needs to limit these corporations. Fuck Obama's change. If he can't stop these corporations, he isn't doing shit.
@skyfire1129 Air cars are built by con artists who want investors money. There is no suppression just technically illiterate investors losing their money to scammers. Give them your money they will appreciate it
@mikehanoo33 These days, oil companies are the biggest investors in alternative energy. They know there's only a finite amount of oil left in the ground, and if they don't diversify, they'll be gone in an instant.
@TerrorBlack >>> Yeah that oil is just running out , and the oil companies are your friend , they love green technology , thats why they buried the electric car back in 2002 ( Texaco-Chevron bought and buried the NIMH battery that ran the EV-1 and RAV4 ) and they kill ,threaten , harass, or buy out anyone and everyone that gets in there way , they will destroy the earth if we dont stand up to them , they are completely mad , watch ,(Who killed the electric car) and (FUEL) and (CRUDE) peace .
@mikehanoo33 Yes, you are right... But like it or not, they must accept it that one day in the near future all cars will be electric or alternative power source.
@mikehanoo33 "Inventors of energy devices in particular have" lied, never delivered any useful devices and stolen investors money. A classic example is the air car
2004 There is no other motor as efficient as the Di Pietro Rotary Air Engine. It is 100% more efficient than any other air powered engine built to date and its high torque makes it the first air engine suitable for mobile applications. The invention has the capacity to revolutionize transportation, plus offer a multitude of energy-saving benefits in stationary applications.
Provide one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms the lies opps claims all these air car charlatans such as Enginair , MDI and all the loonies from the past make
But you can't and as you are to lazy to research these scamming arsewipes I have to do it for you.
Repeating The ONLY published MDI test gave a range of 5 miles at the speed of a flat bloke on a bike.
Enginair has not been used in Melbourne. It failed. It is no better than a Gast air motor
@avalableusername The choice is upto you. The car no longer requires you to burn gas on board, so you can choose a clean power source to compress the air. e.g. if you live next to Hoover dam, or a geothermal power station, you are pretty sure your electricity is emission free. You can also run an air compressor off your roof-top solar panels. If the source of your electricity is not clean, this car will not be clean either.
@avalableusername well said - we all know we are doomed if the petrol-heads get their way - time all the decent people got together and showed the crooks up for what they are : destroyers of anything that challenges their sick ways of exploiting everything for profit . cheers..
In 1934, 21-year-old Johannes Wardenier announced he developed the world’s first fuel-less automobile. For weeks Dutch newspapers reported of an incredible invention that would change the world for ever. Not long after that he was mysteriously imprisoned in a mental institution, his design for the engine was stolen and he was kept under constant guard and never allowed to see anyone.
This is a car that in the ONLY published test went 5 miles. (MDI's speed and range claims are complete fantasy) MDI is a company that over the last 10 years has taken millions from investors but NEVER sold or delivered a car
Air cars are inefficient CRAP aimed at technically illiterate investors. Not one has been sold (that would expose the scam) and in the ONLY published test the MDI air car went 5 miles at the speed of a fat bloke on a bike.
Google rexresearch negre for years of broken promises.
@TamirylAuvahn If they are sold the pitiful range actually 5miles when tested is revealed. So you have to keep promising and not delivering. 45 million taken so far and counting
@fizzguts What is it with you and five miles , you say that over and over like a boring old record over and over , how is it you seem to know more about every air car thats ever been , have you actually tested one of these , there are many air cars and trains that have traveled over five miles , some up to 500 miles , so please do us all a favor and shut the hell up and go play with your steam engines mate !!!!!
@mikehanoo33 I repeat because nitwits like you are so stupid. In the ONLY MDI test independently witnessed on since removed from MDI's website this piece of crap went 5 miles. There are NO INDEPENDENT TESTS by recognized testing authorities on ANY air car where it has crawled more than about 5 miles.
Claiming 500 miles is as stupid as believing free energy devices work.
@fizzguts I have showed you repeatedly evidence that proves air cars have worked ,still work, and have traveled up to 500 miles on a single charge , and there are many volumes of data available on all the free energy and clean energy devices that have been suppressed over the years by the oil companies , I have posted some , but you still harass everyone that is trying to bring forth clean energy machines , you must be working for the oil companies or you are quite mad . 500 miles yes !
@mikehanoo33 "I have showed you repeatedly evidence that proves air cars have worked ,still work, and have traveled up to 500 miles on a single charge"
EVIDENCE?
A CLAIM from a 70 year old newspaper that NO ONE independently witnessed.
A claim for an air motor that was NEVER used in a Melbourne market that NO independent witness has ever seen running for more than a 5 mile equivalent range.
@fizzguts Oh and by the way this video is about (ENGINEAIR) not MDI , that was part one , and Engineair is a totally different design , it uses a small ROTARY engine , that goes TWO HOURS ON A CHARGE , did you get that mister five miles , if your going to be a critic at least talk about the right video , it would be to easy to insult you here .
@mikehanoo33 First part of the video is MDI Are you completely blind?
Engineair is just the same. A CON. Stupid claims for technically illiterate nit wits. 2 hours running? Only if you crawl at 2.5miles per hour for a FIVE mile range. But hey you are a true believer right? Well enginair will happily take all your money so shut up and invest CHUMP
@fizzguts There must be a human in there somewhere , you appear to have some cognitive abilities , the first part of the video shows a MDI banner and says that was part one , now we go to part two , really are you that stupid , sorry but your rants are getting old , no one is listening to your lies and vile filth that emanates from your keyboard , try to open your mind and heart just a little and maybe get just a little integrity , you will enjoy life much more , clean energy rocks !
Provide one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms the lies opps claims all these air car charlatans such as Enginair , MDI and all the loonies from the past make
But you can't and as you are to lazy to research these scamming arsewipes I have to do it for you.
Repeating The ONLY published MDI test gave a range of 5 miles at the speed of a flat bloke on a bike.
It does seem a long time since seeing this on Beyond Tomorrow. But why just have that high torque air motor running a gearbox. Have it run a powerful generator, and run electric motors in each wheel. With solar power for extra power, running a compressor to top up the dual air tanks. Seriously, it can't be so hard to see one fuel won't cut it, but 3 rolled into one vehicle, using no fossil fuels seems like the best option. Best of all, no need to plug in if you leave it in the sun all day.
The power to run the compressor (MDI state 7kw for 6 hours) needs the full sun from an PV array with mountings and charge controllers inverters etc etc that will cost you about $45000 and will cover the roof of a large house.
Running any motor through a generator back to electric motors just wastes power.
MDI have swindled millions from technically ignorant investors. Money that could really have done some good. CO capture, improved photovoltaics etc etc.
That pisses me off and if by raising this repeatedly I can make a dent on their con then I'm doing good.
If you think scammers and cons should be given a free ride, good for you, because there are a bunch of crooks just waiting to take your money.
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If we all had these cars the cash we would all globally save on petrol we would all be spending on other things this would put global economy right. And help the environment with zero emissions. But as usual the politicians and the petrol companies are just way to greedy to allow this to ever happen. They could mass produce the cars and make their cash from that as motorbikes light aircraft boats the list is endless
funnypoetbob 3 weeks ago
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acharylee77z 1 month ago
this isnt brand new technology. This basically using steam engine...
HyperSTAND 2 months ago
Hi Traqr, that is what I meant. Cutting out the production of electricity to then turn into compressed gas and instead compressing the gas onsite. This would produce significant reductions in lost energy. Of course, there are always downsides...
Cheers, Dale
DraRed73 4 months ago
Pretty cool video
1aauto 5 months ago
This technology were bought by petrolium companies, and were frozen forever. Isn't it?
tasvirukas 6 months ago
@tasvirukas This inefficient, short range technology is 200 years old and you are not doing enough research before posting moose drool
fizzguts 5 months ago
@fizzguts Okay... :(
tasvirukas 5 months ago
i hate the smell of propane forklifts!!!!! This is by far the coolest invention I've seen lately. So did this company take off???
PyR0Star 6 months ago
@PyR0Star Yep MDI is still going gang busters. They have been conning technically illiterate investors since the late1990's. Haven't sold any cars of course, as these crap mobiles are ancient technology, low power, short range and inefficient, that's the one thing they will never do.
fizzguts 6 months ago
@fizzguts hahah this looks like an investor pitch vid
PyR0Star 6 months ago
brilliant!!!!
PyR0Star 6 months ago
@Joe2PointOh
Maximum of 10% increase in range in stop start driving. At steady speed the extra weight causes a small range decrease.
fizzguts 6 months ago
A rotary engine with line contact sealing? Hmmm, ...not practical in the long run...
rotaryinnovator 6 months ago
AND WHEN !!! THE AIR OR WATER POWERED CAR , WHEN THERE WILL BE A TCHERNOBYL OR A FUKUSHIMA ON THE MOON , HYPOCRITICAL POLITICAL SYSTEM , BUSSINESSMEN ARE BITCH , APOCALYPSE NOW ??? THE EARTH THE NATURE IS SICK BUT LOT OF PEOPLE DEAD OR AGONIZE , ECOLOGIC RE EVOLUTIONS PLEASE ..........!!!
christophezirgle 7 months ago
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fizzguts 7 months ago
awesome!
arnoldaszlt 9 months ago
@ben210ben that is a great idea ben, but i think putting the solar panels on the car to run an electronic air compressor to perpetually fill the air tanks wold be a great idea! can someone please do this now!!!!!
jzon999 10 months ago
@jzon999 Yea the $20,000 worth of panels you need to power the honking great compressor needed to recharge the tanks for a 5 mile range would look just dandy perched on top. I take it you slept through maths and science at school
fizzguts 9 months ago
@fizzguts just because you are using the assumption that you need a 20 grand solar panel to power whatever honking air compressor you have in your mind makes you a genius.
jzon999 9 months ago
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@jzon999 just because I know based on simple physics that you need a 20 grand solar panel to power whatever honking air compressor makes me able to work out things unlike you.
fizzguts 9 months ago
the only bad thing about electric cars is that it takes them so long to recharge so say you were to use a solar panel to recharge a battery at home. the you could use that energy to refil your air tanks in like 3 mins problem solved? no co2 for energy. or would this idea just not work?
ben210ben 10 months ago
@ben210ben Your idea would not work if you consider the rate of production vs. the rate of consumption given the maximum surface area of the solar panels you can install on the car. So you may be able to fully charge up the battery with 8 hours of sunshine and then the same amount of energy is only enough to push the car for 2 miles. It is a different story with a roof top solar panel, 8 hours of sunshine may charge enough energy for 50 miles. The size of the panel matters.
cplai 10 months ago
When the Patent Office informed Bob Neal that his patent claim would be denied because it was a perpetual motion machine, he built a miniature working model, put it in a suitcase, and flew to Washington DC. He plopped the engine down on the patent commissioner's desk, turned it on, and requested that he be granted his patent on the basis that the engine worked. His request was granted in 1936 with the issuing of US Patent #2030759.
mikehanoo33 11 months ago 4
I wonder how the loony tune air car believers will explain the latest scam from MDI
Google Catecar & look at their news page. Oh dear MDI isn't delivering the technology and want's more money that they are not entitled to
Bwahahaha. How many times does this have to happen before investors and the "wow an aircar" twits wake up. Pay attention IT"S A CON
fizzguts 11 months ago
Yeah fizzy and what about all the other 1000's of inventors , were they just "touting for investors " are they all "inefficient ,short range , and low power "? Or could it be someone does not wish for these inventions to come to fruition in the mass market becuase it would end there MAD
DESTRUCTIVE CONTROL of the EARTH , the truth is these clean , over unity devices will come forward with or without there consent !
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 4
this guy and this engine have disappeared like a fart on the breeze
slh950 1 year ago
@slh950 & Mrtweetyhack
30 seconds with Google would have shown you Engineair is still touting for investors. Why nothing has happened is simple because it's a shit idea. Inefficient , short range, low power
fizzguts 1 year ago
video was posted in 2006. big oil probably killed the guy already.
MrTweetyhack 1 year ago
Karpen's Pile: A Battery That Produces Energy Continuously Since 1950 Exists in Romanian Museum
The "Dimitrie Leonida" National Technical Museum from Romania hosts a weird kind of battery. Built by Vasile Karpen, the pile has been working uninterrupted for 60 years. "I admit it's also hard for me to advance the idea of an overunity generator without sounding ridiculous, even if the object exists," says Nicolae Diaconescu, engineer and director of the museum.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Can i just ask, doesn't it use energy to compress the air that refuels the engine?
BEAUMONTLYNCH 1 year ago
@BEAUMONTLYNCH yes
wobledoble 1 year ago
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@mikehanoo33 You know how to get rid of me no problem, but being a lying chicken shit being paid to shill for MDI you will ignore and keep ignoring my offer.
Repeating show us ONE INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI'S LIES opps CLAIMS and I'm out of here all my post pulled and I'll sing their praises
So Mr "I've bought stock in this MDI con which I can't unload and now I'm sweating" are you going to ignore this just like all the other times.
fizzguts 1 year ago
One thing the Global Elite do not want revealed is the existence of free-energy technology.
This technology has the capability of revolutionizing the world by removing oil/gas as main sources of fuel, but instead has been weaponized and used against us. Directed energy weapons and weather control are among the dangers we now face.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
So what’s “crazy” about it? What would people sixty years ago have said about cell phones? “Wacky”?? How about The Wizard of Oz on an ultra-thin shiny little disc? ”Nutjob”?? What about embedding spy chips on insects? ”Insane”?? Technology has come a long way in the last 100 years.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
This technology is far from sci-fi and has existed for many decades.
The first microwave oven was built in 1947 by Raytheon, a major defense contractor. What advances could they have made in the past sixty years? A look at the documentary “Star Wars in Iraq” reveals weaponry based on these technologies.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
It is all too common for those in control to suppress and weaponize new technologies.
Suppression can be accomplished simply by spreading choice phrases such as “raygun nutcase”. Even the production of sci-fi TV/movies helps associate these weapons with “science fiction”. As one example, the body cloak technology portrayed in the film “Predator” is very real, and was reported in Time and WIRED magazines.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
You still here fizznuts , that oil money must be treating you good , you are like a broken record , dude give it a rest , you know dam well there are plenty of over unity inventions out there that have been patented and used , the only thing that keeps the aircar from the public is idiots like you that will do or say anything for money and power , I say we all pitch in and get this asshole off the net ,how much are the paying ya ? Or did they promise you a seat in one of the survival bunkers ?
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 4
@mikehanoo33 You know how to get rid of me no problem, but being a lying chicken shit being paid to shill for MDI you will ignore and keep ignoring my offer.
Repeating show us ONE INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI'S LIES opps CLAIMS and I'm out of here all my post pulled and I'll sing their praises
So Mr "I've bought stock in this MDI con which I can't unload and now I'm sweating" are you going to ignore this just like all the other times.
fizzguts 1 year ago
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@minase0906 And that response proves once again, you don't have an air car, you are lying piece of excrement with the scientific knowledge of a concrete lamp post.
fizzguts 1 year ago
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And your response once again proves you don't have an air car, you lying piece of excrement.
fizzguts 1 year ago
MDI air car
Short range, 7.22km in the only published test. Horribly inefficient (5 times more energy than an equivalent electric vehicle). low powered 6 hp. A con aimed at extracting money from the technically illiterate
Google e.volution south africa for MDI lies from 2000
fizzguts 1 year ago
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mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Most importantly, it is incredibly cost-efficient to run – according to the designers, it costs less than one Euro per 100Km (about a tenth that of a petrol car). Its mileage is about double that of the most advanced electric car (200 to 300 km or 10 hours of driving), a factor which makes a perfect choice in cities where the 80% of motorists drive at less than 60Km. The car has a top speed of 68 mph.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Quote- The Pneumatic Options Research Library is a treasure trove of information on how to gain free energy from compressed air. The most important fact to realize is that the very act of compressing air yields free energy.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
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@minase0906
Bwahahahaha!
Like I said your response PROVES you don't have an air car. you are a lying piece of filth with the moral integrity of a turd
fizzguts 1 year ago
@minase0906
And your response proves you don't have an air car, you lying piece of filth.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@minase0906 Quote "i have my own air car and i can see it is effecient."
you are a LYING SCUMBAG. You wouldn't know efficient if it bit you on the balls.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@minase0906 Read what I wrote you cretin and stop posting moronic shit. Air powered vehicles are horribly inefficient. Compared to a battery electric vehicle they use five times more electricity for the same performance.
fizzguts 1 year ago
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I like this video. Thank you for your sharing. Hope to see next your video.
many9662 1 year ago
Get an electric bike Five time better energy efficiency and dozens of times better range.
fizzguts 1 year ago
So instead of certain people spending so much time and effort trying to demonize clean energy systems and complain about how utterly wasteful it would be to use these inefficient systems ( even though air powered engines were commercially successful for many years ) how about spending that energy and time trying to improve existing technology and promoting honest technology , even if it goes outside of the box a little here and there , it all has to start somewhere , why not here ?
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 13
For half a century the air-powered locomotive was a serious contender for the top spot in transportation because of its obvious advantages: simplicity, safety, economy, and cleanliness. Air engines were commercially available and used routinely, first as metropolitan street transit and later for haulage in mines.
The term "air engine" disappeared from engineering textbooks after the 1930s and the second world war. The oil industry was established, and gas was cheap.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
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@fizzguts says " the 3 cars I've built so far keep my hand in" ,,,,,got any investors @fizzguts in your 3 cars???????
guess not,,, otherwise you would have better things to do?
hobobobo72 1 year ago
@fizzguts
have you nothing better to do dude? maybe you should use the energy you are expending on your gibberish posts to power a car......or 2?
hobobobo72 1 year ago
@hobobobo72 Enough time trying to educate idiots that a 6hp engine in a car (engineairs has a little 2 seater town car) with a 3 min run tine is DUMB. In my off time the 3 cars I've built so far keep my hand in and you? Posting on you tube saying "don't have anything better to do dude" WOW! What a terrific WASTE of electrons. If you don't get maths and physics you can't understand enough to comment on this miserable piece of crap so pay attention
fizzguts 1 year ago
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hobobobo72 1 year ago
Il motore può funzionare solo con aria...compressa! Per avere aria compressa bisogna avere un compressore e per avere un compressore è necessario avere energia elettrica e per avere energia elettrica ci sono centrali che bruciano combustibili fossili. Questo è lo stesso problema del nucleare, per sfruttare l'uranio bisogna avere energia per estrarlo e lavorarlo; tutto questo è da stupidi, un giro della morte per nascondere tecnologie affini ai combustibili più comuni.
Karouomo 1 year ago
@Karouomo The energy potential of tidal basins is large — the largest facility, the La Rance station in France, generates 240 megawatts of power. Wind Energy Center in Texas. This wind farm has 421 wind turbines that generate a total capacity of 735 megawatts.Nine parabolic trough plants, totaling over. 350 megawatts (MW) of electric generation, have been in daily operation in the California Mojave Desert . WE DON'T HAVE TO USE DIRTY FUEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 8
@mikehanoo33 Concordo, ma in termini di efficienza, essa viene a ridursi quando si fanno più conversioni di energia. Per esempio dal fotovoltaico all'elettrico, elettrico all'aria compressa ed essa ad un motore ad aria. Non avrebbe maggior rendimento un motore elttrico con una qualsiasi fonte energetica pulita? Inoltre l'intero processo non sarebbe inutile se un motore ad aria è meno efficiente in termini energetici di uno elettrico? Prima ho detto fossili perché in Italia importiamo carbone.
Karouomo 1 year ago
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of course we do, how else will the rich get richer? sheeeeeeeesh
johnnytheprick 3 months ago
Di Pietro agreed energy was lost as heat when compressed air cooled but said that his company had developed a system that could regain this heat. This system was not used in the new vehicle but could be used to make air-powered motors more efficient for passenger cars, he said.
The system uses the energy in compressed air to take in heat from the atmosphere as well as air. This atmospheric air is then compressed to generate more heat, which in turn is used to drive the engine.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
To me, Angelo Di Pietro is a knight in shining armour and his compressed air motor is nothing short of amazing. I turned up on Angelo’s doorstep a few weeks ago to speak to him about the motor. To my surprise he let me in and made me a coffee. We talked for hours about the motorization of the world and this motor’s place in it.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 3
@mikehanoo33 You flew all the way from the USA to Australia to visit engineair? Did you get a copy of their test results? Or is this just more lies & fantasy?
fizzguts 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 Fuckwit I explained why I raised MDI here it's a continuation of another discussion where your fellow air car apologist rather than be crucified because of his inadequate ability to do maths had me banned. So I bought the discussion here. Piss off you don't even understand basic maths so you have nothing to contribute
fizzguts 1 year ago
Fizznuts this video is about the Australian inventor Angelo Di Pietro that developed the rotary motor , remember , we have had this conversation , this video is not about MDI , are you that stupid , really you try to come off as some backyard expert and you don't even know which video your watching , please just go away .
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 6
5 mile range?... yeah right. Fizzguts wants people to believe, all compressed air vehicles are the same. only 5 mile range. Range depends on compressed air volume and tank pressure which varies, just like any other vehicle's range varies. But he wont tell you that because he's not here to educate. He's here to attack compressed air vehicles, and that's a shame. Hatred has blinded him from being objective.
ReeseL4D 1 year ago 4
@ReeseL4D So having got me banned for one idiotic youtube post drooling adulation re air cars you're come here now. Explain to me where this huge range MDI air car is when the only test MDI posted was 7.2km = about 5 miles. I'm more than willing to pull all my posts & apologize profusely if some one, ANYONE produces and INDEPENDENT TEST CONFIRMING MDI's lies opps claims.
I'll watch with amusement as you wriggle away from that challenge Bwahahaha! this is more fun than Jane Austins fight club!
fizzguts 1 year ago
Facts
5 mile range, No independent testing. A con aimed at selling franchises to technical illiterates
Resse is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented
with authoritarian and abusive urges = egomaniac
He is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks. He ignores the facts
fizzguts 1 year ago
Fizzguts is the opposite of an engineer. He is a relentless skeptic ... uncreative, ungifted, unimaginative, uninspired, unproductive, untalented
with authoritarian and abusive urges = egomaniac
He is the classic antagonist ... he insults, opposes, distracts, obfuscates, misleads, exaggerates, lies, omits, attacks. He never defends, only attacks or counter-attacks. You have been warned.
ReeseL4D 1 year ago 5
AMBIENT HEAT: Heat is available for free from environmental sources like the Sun for heating water, building materials, or air. Heat can also be stored, or conserved, by using insulation methods. So, it can be gathered when it is freely available and used when it is needed. But Ambient Heat can also be used as an energy source. In 1900, Nikola Tesla described an invention to use the heat in the ambient air to drive an engine to produce mechanical energy and refrigerated air as a by-product.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 4
I can imagine people like these inventors outside the monetary paradigm, working together...What they would achieve gives me the shivers!!
anelixis 1 year ago
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mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@anelixis >>> And we all need to imagine this and believe it into power , it's time we humans use are technology that's been available for many years for the greater good !
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@anelixis These inventors run these scams to suck money from technically illiterate rubes. The MDI and Enginer vehicles are short range low powered garbage
fizzguts 1 year ago
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The big bad Oil corporations r trying their best to stop free energy technology from spreading to common ppl.
We need to put an end to this corruption ,start generating ur own electricity now.
Visit LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints . Join the Revolution!!
intermitrj 1 year ago
Electric companies, gas heating companies and oil companies would lose half or more of their profits with free energy available. Therefore, these companies then donate millions of dollars to governments (bribing them) to make sure that free energy devices stay out of the public market. Tactics and means of suppression include buying the patent of the free energy device from the inventor or his family, suing the inventor or patent holder and even murdering the inventor in some cases
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 6
If air powered engines suffer from range and torque etc problems, why don't just use the air to power electrical generators that load up batteries, and run the car on electric engines instead??? why take on an uphill task of inventing an air engine which would be practical enough for use? electric engines, car batteries and generators are all in their advanced stages and are readily available and comparatively cheaper and more reliable.. hmmm, come to think of it, i might just build one myself!!
thekaizer666 1 year ago 2
@thekaizer666 I like your idea. One problem with electric car is their long recharging time. But filling a compress air tank may be quicker.
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai i see what you mean.. perhaps this idea may not be suitable for cabs, buses and other vehicles which need to be running 24/7, but for consumer commuting, i personally find myself that for every hour i drive, it's about 2 hours that i have it parked, IF NOT MORE (office work is 8hrs). during which, onboard comps will decide whether to continue the generator. don't forget that during the 1 hour drive is also an hour's worth of charging. so given the above 1:2 ratio, tts 3 - 1 hrs charge.
thekaizer666 1 year ago
@thekaizer666 The MDi air car has a range of less than 10 km ditto the Engineair offerings with a 4 to 6hr recharge time
Recharging while driving?Need a bloody long extension cord for the 6 kw compressor.
Buy a bicycle
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts heya i think you missed the point.. was that there is an onboard electricity generator powered by compressed air. this onboard generator will supply battery juice to the electric batteries which in turn power the main electric engine..
thekaizer666 1 year ago
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ROTFLMAO! so the air motor runs the generator that runs an electric motor that turns the compressor that runs the air motor that runs the generator that runs an electric motor that turns the compressor that runs the air motor etc etc etc
Bwahahaha
How about a much better idea. Bigger diameter tyres on the rear wheels so it always rolls down hill LOL
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts lol, what are you, stupid? i can't even deliver a simple idea to you in english. maybe ill try drawing it. (AIR TANK) -> (ELECTRIC GENERATOR) -> (BATTERY) -> (CAR ENGINE (ELECTRIC)) -> (END). I didn't try to propogate that its a loop system. Anyways, you sound like a spazzmatic child with all that finger pointing and cackling. Chill out, cuz if that's all youre gonna is to troll around like a clown, well, suffice it to say I got other things to do. Hope we cool.
thekaizer666 1 year ago
@thekaizer666 "i can't even deliver a simple idea to you in english"
Yep you are dumb and illiterate, I knew that already
So you'd take an air take to run an air motor and then add another couple of step to throw away the energy rather than directly propelling the car.
Bwahahaha!
That is as stupid as your first idea
Hint
Battery - electric motor-car . It's called an electric car and it's hugely more efficient than anything air powered
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thekaizer666 1 year ago
@fizzguts okay dingus. enjoy your studio apartment under rent for life. :) *blocked*
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thekaizer666 1 year ago
@cplai yes, but the technology improves very fast... the recharging time will be reduced in the following years
19ultima88 1 year ago 3
@cplai try mechanically linking Angelo's engine to an air compressor and then taking an air storage canister to do the job. Engine drives compressor, compressor provides air for engine.
viperxraptor2001 1 year ago
@cplai it should also be noted that generating electricity requires considerable torque as well. The other issue with this is that the air is compressed using energy from oil in one way or another but not a bad idea just the same.
AsylumET 11 months ago
@cplai No way. We could just put the compressor inside the car next to the motor (since it's so small) and stop at the gas station, connect the compressor to the plug (also used to charge battery cars), wait 3 minutes and it's done!
I think the main problems is petrol being so deep in our economics. It would revolutionize the world.
OhNoItsJoana 4 months ago
@OhNoItsJoana No, a large high pressure tank can fill it in three minutes. The compressor took four hours. I'm too sleepy to double-check my math right now, but it looks like 200 litres of air at 300bar is roughly equal to one litre of diesel fuel for raw potential energy. I don't see how this energy equation can work, though anyone who's handled air tools will tell you that the POWER density is incomparable!
Traqr 4 months ago
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This Negre guy should be behind bars for disseminating the lie that air cars are ecofriendly or even zero emission as he says.
A small calculation: To store 14.3 kWh @300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 @ 1 bar) reservoirs, you need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (with an optimum compressor working on the ideal adiabatic limit and assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine, which is not in practice). and 14 kWh is a bit more than 1 l of gasoline. So this Negre guy is either stupid or criminal.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@thekaizer666 "If air powered engines suffer from range and torque etc problems, why don't just use the air to power electrical generators that load up batteries, and run the car on electric engines instead???'
Because that would be very inefficient. air tank to air motor to generator to battery to electric motor. Air motors are bad enough why in pluperfect hell would any one want to add another layer of inefficiency.
fizzguts 1 year ago
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@thekaizer666 "why don't just use the air to power electrical generators" "why take on an uphill task of inventing an air engine which would be practical enough for use?"
And you and the poster of this drooling video can't see the howling contradiction in your post. Bloody hell. Hint you need an air motor to run the generator and that air motor and the compressed air that feeds it are where the horrendous inefficiency lies. "i might just build one myself!!" The blind leading the dim
fizzguts 1 year ago
@thekaizer666 You're over thinking that-- why not use the power that you'd use to run the compressors to fill the air tanks that you plan on using to turn the motors to crank the generators to make electricity that you'd use to power the electric car to just charge batteries? :) Cut out all of those middle steps. :D
EpicureMammon 1 year ago
@thekaizer666 an electric / compressed-air hybrid car, cool! - One problem i can forsee might be that such car might be a bit heavy?
konsul2006 9 months ago
@thekaizer666,
I would take the opposite view. At present the creation of electricity comes mainly from heating water to make steam, ie creating a pressurised gas. Why take that gas and turn it into electricity with all the associated inefficiencies rather than store the compressed gas and use that directly. Far more efficient.
Cheers, Dale
DraRed73 8 months ago
@DraRed73 As soon as the steam cools down, it stops being steam. You need to use it while it's still hot.
Traqr 4 months ago
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Hi Traqr, it has been a long time since I saw this clip and posted but from memory it is based on compressed air. There is no technical challenge to maintain the air pressure that was created from a steam driven process as the steam cools and condenses.
Cheers, Dale
DraRed73 4 months ago
@DraRed73 I know, but your comment was "At present the creation of electricity comes mainly from heating water to make steam, ie creating a pressurised gas. Why take that gas and turn it into electricity with all the associated inefficiencies rather than store the compressed gas and use that directly. Far more efficient.", which is hard to do when the compressed gas (steam) would soon condense. Perhaps you meant a mechanical, steam driven compressor? Did I misinterpret you?
Traqr 4 months ago
A BRIEF HISTORY OF AIR CARS For half a century the air-powered locomotive was a serious contender for the top spot in transportation because of its obvious advantages: simplicity, safety, economy, and cleanliness. Air engines were commercially available and used routinely, first as metropolitan street transit and later for haulage in mines.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 6
Pastor Lindsey William, stated that the Peak oil is a hoax. The oil is plentyful enough to lower gas prices down to $0.50 a litre, yet the oil companies do not want the public to know this. And here is the Air Powered engine and today, I have yet to see one vehicle made with it. Instead I keep hearing that oil companies are threatening those who are saving the planet.
Topazman12 1 year ago 32
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@Topazman12 And here is the Air Powered engine and today, I have yet to see one vehicle made with it.
There are quite few cars transporters made with air engines MDI & Engineair have them in videos BUT they are and always will be, short range, slow, low powered pieces of crap
fizzguts 1 year ago
CBS CENSORS "COLD FUSION" VIDEO
The highly revealing 12-minute video clip from 60 Minutes on the fascinating resurgence of cold fusion has now been removed by CBS. I highly suspect media censorship at work here. A supporter emailed that the embedded video from an article posted on this at examiner.com was not working. Checking back on the original links to the video revealed that a weak clip of less than two-minutes had replaced the engaging, longer original.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 40
@mikehanoo33 Is this the 12 minute CBS, 60 Minutes, Cold Fusion video you were talking about? watch?v=JyNn_Z6wCIk
HemiHead66 7 months ago
The Gene is OUT AND THEY CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ANYMORE....
Research the COLDFUTION, and you will understand what i mean......
Ebdan88 1 year ago 12
April 7, 2006 Wells Fargo Bank announced they finally invested $5 million of the $1 billion intended for renewable energy. Where did they invest? In a mutual fund: Carlyle/Riverstone Renewable Energy Infrastructure Fund I, L.P. Funny thing, who are the 3 largest stockholders of Carlyle Group? The answer in order of largest percentage owned. (source: Al Martin)
1. The Queen of England 2. Bush Family 3. Bin Laden Family
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
we are now in 2010, where is the car of the masses?
hilariofreire 1 year ago
@hilariofreire >>> Being suppressed by the OIL COMPANIES !!! As ALL other forms of Clean energy devices are !!!
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@hilariofreire It's working well, sucking money from technically illiterate investors and will be sold next year, always next year
fizzguts 1 year ago
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dreamzbeliever 1 year ago
Why we still can't see such cars in car showrooms? Sabotaged by big conglomerates perhaps?
dreamzbeliever 1 year ago
@dreamzbeliever
It's old technology aimed at gullible technically ignorant investors
Actual range FIVE miles. Actual money taken over $20 million. Actual results Idiot reporters being taken for rides round parking lots.
Would you like to buy a bridge?
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fixxguts
But in 'Air Car (1 of 2) from France', timeline 3:47-3:59, this is what I heard:
"...they have a top speed of 110km/hr. You should get 200 km out of the tank..."
dreamzbeliever 1 year ago
@dreamzbeliever They lie with out shame
Only ONE published test, since removed, 7.2km This was followed by pages of increasingly hilarious "reasoning" as to how this would be increased to 200km. That was about 5 years ago. Swept volume of engine, gear ratio, wheel diameter, volume in tank give a MAXIMUM THEORETICAL range of about 35km.
My std offer find one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms MDI's lies opps claims and I'll sing their praise and pull my posts
I've been waiting 5 years
fizzguts 1 year ago
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dreamzbeliever 1 year ago
aight thats cool just say goodbye to ferrari, lambo, masserati, porche, aston martin, jaguar and all the great fun and plesure you have driving petrol cars. in the future we're gunna be driving little trucks made of recycled plastic. what a great life its going to be.
matawin2 1 year ago
@matawin2 >>> All of those vehicles will run just fine on clean bio degradable bio fuels . Watch the the award winning documentary "FUEL" and get excited about the clean future of fuel , I believe a combination of clean energy devices will propel us into the future , bio fuels , electric , air , and hydrogen , and I'm sure there are others that have been silenced by the oil men . So we don't need to give up are "FUN" cars , that's what they want you to believe , WE CAN "LIVE " - WITHOUT OIL !
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism' - The widespread adoption of these new, non-polluting energy and propulsion systems will effectively replace the use of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, impacting 4.5 trillion dollars a year in world economic activity, replace the current? geo-political order with one based on decentralized abundance. (Examiner; March 21, 2009)
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 7
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@mikehanoo33
Quoting from tabloids? Was this before or after the "Elvis was an alien" story
LOL
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts ---- Once again you try to distort facts and make up one lie after another , --- Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism'
March 21, 2009 - St. Louis Alternative Energy Technologies Examiner
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 4
@mikehanoo33
"St. Louis Alternative Energy Technologies Examiner" !!
Bwahahaha
You're joking right? I assumed it was some undereducated reporter writing for a loony tune tabloid pandering to deranged conspiracy nuts and you CONFIRM IT!
I have to admire your honesty while doubting your sanity.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts --- Its still the truth , and you and most others know it , we are being lied to by the "BIG PRESS MACHINE" owned by the big money boys , so when someone steps up and tells it how it is , well I tip my hat to them , and thanks for the complement , maybe theirs hope for you after all .
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 3
@mikehanoo33 'Its still the truth" Sure is An undereducated reporter writing for a loony tune tabloid pandering to deranged conspiracy nuts.
OK It's a conspiracy by the evil water power industry to stop the coal industry opps OK It's the evil coal industry suppressing the oil industry opps OK It's the evil oil industry, millions of scientists, millions of engineers, in fact all the educated smart people plus the history of the universe all conspiring to suppress perpetual motion machines.
LOL
fizzguts 1 year ago
Do you really believe the oil companies will allow these cars to be mass produced ? Or tested fairly ? (ExxonMobil is the world's most profitable corporation. Its sales now amount to more than $1bn a day. It makes most of this money from oil, and has more to lose than any other company .)
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 69
@mikehanoo33
I'm inclined to agree with you, especially after watching videos titled "Who Killed The Electric/Water Car?", "They Want Your Soul" and "The One Percent".
These giant conglomerates are just too powerful and ruthless for anyone standing in their ways.
dreamzbeliever 1 year ago
@dreamzbeliever > Yeah when oil corporations make that kind of money they will do anything to keep it , even repeat lie's over and over until some people believe it . Truth is , air cars are very old technology , they were commercially successful during the early part of the last century , but the oil companies not only killed the industry , they even removed information from text books , and anyone daring to bring this back gets threatened , bought out , taken to court , or killed .
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@dreamzbeliever "Who Killed The Electric/Water Car?", Huh???? I've seen of "who killed the electric car" Of course the electric car wasn't killed it committed suicide. Batteries are too expensive and don't last long enough.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 This is so true, and so sad. It's unbelievable that a corporation can become so powerful as to monopolize an industry as large as transportation and prevent new technologies and small businesses from surviving.
The amount of greed displayed by the corporations and their CEOs disgusts me. As a country, America needs to limit these corporations. Fuck Obama's change. If he can't stop these corporations, he isn't doing shit.
skyfire1129 1 year ago 2
@skyfire1129 Air cars are built by con artists who want investors money. There is no suppression just technically illiterate investors losing their money to scammers. Give them your money they will appreciate it
fizzguts 1 year ago
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hobobobo72 1 year ago
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hobobobo72 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 These days, oil companies are the biggest investors in alternative energy. They know there's only a finite amount of oil left in the ground, and if they don't diversify, they'll be gone in an instant.
TerrorBlack 1 year ago
@TerrorBlack >>> Yeah that oil is just running out , and the oil companies are your friend , they love green technology , thats why they buried the electric car back in 2002 ( Texaco-Chevron bought and buried the NIMH battery that ran the EV-1 and RAV4 ) and they kill ,threaten , harass, or buy out anyone and everyone that gets in there way , they will destroy the earth if we dont stand up to them , they are completely mad , watch ,(Who killed the electric car) and (FUEL) and (CRUDE) peace .
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 6
@mikehanoo33 Yes, you are right... But like it or not, they must accept it that one day in the near future all cars will be electric or alternative power source.
19ultima88 1 year ago 2
In their efforts to improve the well-being of their fellow humans, inventors often suffer poverty,
slander, and suppression. Inventors of energy devices in particular have been threatened by large energy corps.
The tactics used against energy inventors include “legal” imprisonment on false charges, harassment by
the IRS, and outright criminal death threats, beatings, bribery, burglary, vandalism, and arson. At least a
few inventors have been murdered if they were not dissuaded by other means.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago 5
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@mikehanoo33 "Inventors of energy devices in particular have" lied, never delivered any useful devices and stolen investors money. A classic example is the air car
How much does MDI pay you to shill for them?
fizzguts 1 year ago
2004 There is no other motor as efficient as the Di Pietro Rotary Air Engine. It is 100% more efficient than any other air powered engine built to date and its high torque makes it the first air engine suitable for mobile applications. The invention has the capacity to revolutionize transportation, plus offer a multitude of energy-saving benefits in stationary applications.
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
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@mikehanoo33
Provide one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms the lies opps claims all these air car charlatans such as Enginair , MDI and all the loonies from the past make
But you can't and as you are to lazy to research these scamming arsewipes I have to do it for you.
Repeating The ONLY published MDI test gave a range of 5 miles at the speed of a flat bloke on a bike.
Enginair has not been used in Melbourne. It failed. It is no better than a Gast air motor
fizzguts 1 year ago
And to compress the air we will use gas or electricity.
avalableusername 1 year ago
@avalableusername The choice is upto you. The car no longer requires you to burn gas on board, so you can choose a clean power source to compress the air. e.g. if you live next to Hoover dam, or a geothermal power station, you are pretty sure your electricity is emission free. You can also run an air compressor off your roof-top solar panels. If the source of your electricity is not clean, this car will not be clean either.
cplai 1 year ago 53
@avalableusername well said - we all know we are doomed if the petrol-heads get their way - time all the decent people got together and showed the crooks up for what they are : destroyers of anything that challenges their sick ways of exploiting everything for profit . cheers..
55mandreck 1 year ago 9
In 1934, 21-year-old Johannes Wardenier announced he developed the world’s first fuel-less automobile. For weeks Dutch newspapers reported of an incredible invention that would change the world for ever. Not long after that he was mysteriously imprisoned in a mental institution, his design for the engine was stolen and he was kept under constant guard and never allowed to see anyone.
hotmichael3358 1 year ago
What is the problem? Why are these things flooding the market by now???
TamirylAuvahn 1 year ago
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This is a car that in the ONLY published test went 5 miles. (MDI's speed and range claims are complete fantasy) MDI is a company that over the last 10 years has taken millions from investors but NEVER sold or delivered a car
Google rexresearch negre for 15 years of promises
fizzguts 1 year ago
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@TamirylAuvahn
Air cars are inefficient CRAP aimed at technically illiterate investors. Not one has been sold (that would expose the scam) and in the ONLY published test the MDI air car went 5 miles at the speed of a fat bloke on a bike.
Google rexresearch negre for years of broken promises.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@TamirylAuvahn If they are sold the pitiful range actually 5miles when tested is revealed. So you have to keep promising and not delivering. 45 million taken so far and counting
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts What is it with you and five miles , you say that over and over like a boring old record over and over , how is it you seem to know more about every air car thats ever been , have you actually tested one of these , there are many air cars and trains that have traveled over five miles , some up to 500 miles , so please do us all a favor and shut the hell up and go play with your steam engines mate !!!!!
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 I repeat because nitwits like you are so stupid. In the ONLY MDI test independently witnessed on since removed from MDI's website this piece of crap went 5 miles. There are NO INDEPENDENT TESTS by recognized testing authorities on ANY air car where it has crawled more than about 5 miles.
Claiming 500 miles is as stupid as believing free energy devices work.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts I have showed you repeatedly evidence that proves air cars have worked ,still work, and have traveled up to 500 miles on a single charge , and there are many volumes of data available on all the free energy and clean energy devices that have been suppressed over the years by the oil companies , I have posted some , but you still harass everyone that is trying to bring forth clean energy machines , you must be working for the oil companies or you are quite mad . 500 miles yes !
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
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@mikehanoo33 "I have showed you repeatedly evidence that proves air cars have worked ,still work, and have traveled up to 500 miles on a single charge"
EVIDENCE?
A CLAIM from a 70 year old newspaper that NO ONE independently witnessed.
A claim for an air motor that was NEVER used in a Melbourne market that NO independent witness has ever seen running for more than a 5 mile equivalent range.
How much does MDI pay you to shill for them?
fizzguts 1 year ago
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mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@fizzguts Oh and by the way this video is about (ENGINEAIR) not MDI , that was part one , and Engineair is a totally different design , it uses a small ROTARY engine , that goes TWO HOURS ON A CHARGE , did you get that mister five miles , if your going to be a critic at least talk about the right video , it would be to easy to insult you here .
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 First part of the video is MDI Are you completely blind?
Engineair is just the same. A CON. Stupid claims for technically illiterate nit wits. 2 hours running? Only if you crawl at 2.5miles per hour for a FIVE mile range. But hey you are a true believer right? Well enginair will happily take all your money so shut up and invest CHUMP
Rotary engine LOL
Look at a Gast air motor THE SAME THING
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts There must be a human in there somewhere , you appear to have some cognitive abilities , the first part of the video shows a MDI banner and says that was part one , now we go to part two , really are you that stupid , sorry but your rants are getting old , no one is listening to your lies and vile filth that emanates from your keyboard , try to open your mind and heart just a little and maybe get just a little integrity , you will enjoy life much more , clean energy rocks !
mikehanoo33 1 year ago
@mikehanoo33 Ooo! Having a wee tantrum!
Why? You can easily shut me up.
Provide one INDEPENDENT TEST that confirms the lies opps claims all these air car charlatans such as Enginair , MDI and all the loonies from the past make
But you can't and as you are to lazy to research these scamming arsewipes I have to do it for you.
Repeating The ONLY published MDI test gave a range of 5 miles at the speed of a flat bloke on a bike.
Enginair has not been used in Melbourne It failed
fizzguts 1 year ago
You replace the tiny gas motor with an even smaller air motor, then you replace the tiny gas tank with a huge air tank that will last 1/4 as long.
paseo1997 1 year ago
heyuhm i am really bored nyone want to chat i have a cam too
ElleottHeene8 1 year ago
It does seem a long time since seeing this on Beyond Tomorrow. But why just have that high torque air motor running a gearbox. Have it run a powerful generator, and run electric motors in each wheel. With solar power for extra power, running a compressor to top up the dual air tanks. Seriously, it can't be so hard to see one fuel won't cut it, but 3 rolled into one vehicle, using no fossil fuels seems like the best option. Best of all, no need to plug in if you leave it in the sun all day.
pathosbedlam 1 year ago
"if you leave it in the sun all day."
No
The power to run the compressor (MDI state 7kw for 6 hours) needs the full sun from an PV array with mountings and charge controllers inverters etc etc that will cost you about $45000 and will cover the roof of a large house.
Running any motor through a generator back to electric motors just wastes power.
fizzguts 1 year ago
@fizzguts: hiya dude.. I know you think you're doing a service to humanity, that's very noble.. still, all I can think of is that XKCD comic:
"Are you coming to bed?" / "I can't. This is important." / "What?" / "Someone is _wrong_ on the internet."
;)
robrec0rd 1 year ago
"Someone is _wrong_ on the internet."
No
MDI have swindled millions from technically ignorant investors. Money that could really have done some good. CO capture, improved photovoltaics etc etc.
That pisses me off and if by raising this repeatedly I can make a dent on their con then I'm doing good.
If you think scammers and cons should be given a free ride, good for you, because there are a bunch of crooks just waiting to take your money.
fizzguts 1 year ago
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hahaha
Yes! Australian must be our slave.
goduk321 1 year ago
i dont get how the air moves the device
Runningman3200 2 years ago