i love 1:40 when he says you cant get truth without the bible as your starting document because , and the he changes what hes talking about because he doesn't know what hes talking about haha
This was one of the worst presentations I've ever seen. He's just pulling shit out of his ass. What a waste of my time. I really thought I'd be impressed.
There is so many errors in this presentation I do not know where to begin. But for starters, lets talk about the K-T boundary at 65,000,000 ago. It would seem the entire geology of the earth and the creatures who have lived here is all of a sudden completely incorrect. The rocks can be dated. Fossils can be dated. Are we now saying all of these techniques are wrong? So are we to return to the days when everyhone thought the earth was formed 4004 BC? Please tell me this is not so.
@starman30143 Dating results are selected. The rocks are dated by the fossils and the fossils are dated by the rocks. w w wdotpathlightsdotcom/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/12fos11dothtm
@BereanBeacon1 I am not a geologist nor a volcanist. My grandfather was. I believe in a blending of science and theology and have spent my life melding the two. The Biblical account of Genesis has us to believe creation occured in about a week. Regardless of the radioactive dating method used, it is certain that this world which we inhabit is more than 4000 years old. It took a very long time for a crust to even form above the magma below us. How old do you feel our world is?
@starman30143 Carl Sagan, "The only truly intellectual dishonest position out there is the position that tries to wed Genesis with big bang cosmology."
@BereanBeacon1 You didn't answer the question: How old is the earth according to your beliefs? By the way, I do like Carl Sagan as an author and cosmologist. Do you know his religious phioloshophy? Since he did not believe in creation as described in Genesis, why are you quoting him here?
@starman30143 According to the Bible the earth is 6,000 years old. It was suggested by a Christian, that Dr. Sagan ask God if he was real and he declined. The quote is for the "Christian" apostates that compromise.
@BereanBeacon1 Dr. Sagan is not on trial here. He did not believe as you nor I do. The age of 6,000 years is actualy not printed anywhere in the Bible as I recall. If so correct me. It was a derived figure based upon a conception that a year as described in the Bible is the same length as a calendar year is today which I think you will find no theologian believes. Would you have me believe that the City States of Greece existed when the Earth was only 3,000 years old?
@starman30143 "Do you know his religious philosophy?" and I answered you.
I don't have the time to answer your questions, as comments are coming in every minute. Read the Bible and perhaps God will answer them.
Evolution:
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
@starman30143 I believe the Bible and what Jesus said.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Mark 10:5,6. And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4. Was Jesus lying or just ignorant?
@BereanBeacon1 We are not discussing here the time when Adam and Eve appeared on this planet. They did not appear a few days after its formation. Rather than spar let's do this. Can we agree God created the Universe (I happen to believe there is more than one of them)? If we can agree HE did. Then can we agree HE did not sculpt each and every rock nor each and every molecule nor each and every anything. Can we agree HE started a sequence which has brought us to the here and now?
@BereanBeacon1 I also believe wholeheartedly Jesus lived and said and did the things attributed to him. Unfortunately those things and his life have nothing to do with the creation of the Universe, our star, our planet, nor outselves. HIS life has nothing to do with the age of our planet. A perspective: God created this Universe. Why? There is no other explanation. This is not a debate between religion and science. It is one of faith that SOMETHING or SOMEONE started it all: God.
The belief aspect of evolution contributes nothing to real observational science. Molecules to man evolution [evolutionism] doesn’t help an engineer build anything, help a medical Dr. in any way, or help a biologist understand the physiology of a plant. Evolutionism’s beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with ANY of our technology. It does nothing for observational science except waste time, money, & actually detracts from real scientific research. Real scientists have better things to do.
Also...after the flood the ark came to rest on mount arrat....good luck getting everything down from there and then getting them on another ship to send them to other continents....that means noah and his family found america waaaay before columbus....ffs i'm done.
ok, now how and the fuck could noah have gotten 2 of every living thing on there and feed them for 40 days and nights and then have them migrate all over the world in 6000 years???
Lots of shit shovelling.
there is no way this guy has gotten anything thing right except allowing himself being brainwashed as a child.
1.You actually need to take the time to investigate your claims before running off at the mouth…
2.Had you done even a little research you would have known that the book of geniuses does not say that it only rained for 40 days and 40 nights it says the Ark floated then, and if you had bothered to read a little farther you would have discovered that Noah and his family were in the Ark for a year and it’s been 4500 +- years since the flood…
3.The ark did not come to rest on the mountain of Ararat it rested in the mountains of Ararat… And seeing as you couldn’t be bothered to even get that right I’ll guess you have no idea where they are!
4.And as far as who discovered The Americas you might want to do a little research here as well, because it was not Columbus, and there are plenty of evidences for this, so much so when the tide of dogmatic rhetoric finally is corrected, they will have to rewrite the history books
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. —Edmund Spencer
LOL… it’s also apparent you couldn’t have or did not even bother to watch the Post above, as he quite clearly tells you the size of the Ark rather close to the beginning of the video… Only a fool will answers a thing before he hears it...
If the Dinosaurs were on the ship, I think the only way they wouldn't destroy and stampede and eat everyone and everything is if God kepts them calm and mellow.
why do you even bother debating on youtube trying to get people away from their faith just give up and wait till the end if nothing happens within the next lest say 100 years u know you were rite and so what if people believe in God and try to live a good life like Jesus did there is nothing wrong with that
It's time we shed the belief in these ancient myths and fairy tales. I love Thomas Paine's comment. "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
These folks have renounced reason and are clinging to their outlandish and disproved beliefs.
@TheScienceFoundation Yes, I saw your video recommendation however I like this one better because it shows more truth in my opinion... God created everything, flood did happen, those of us who are awake and connected with our creator have our eyes open. We can sit back and and watch prophecy unfold however I do feel bad for those who are not ready for whats to come, doesn't look like we have so much time left.
"Truth isn't contingent upon opinion and this video has very close to none."
Making bold claims without evidence again I see. How typical.
BTW, I checked out your video recommendations. Just Ken Miller acting as if we "creationists just aren't listening to what evolutionists have to say" again when it is in fact the other way around.
@BroCope I realize that you have to immediately resort to ad hominems for a lack of actually being able to intelligently debate but could you give an example of an assertion from this video that isn't pure fallacy? Because when I watch it that's all I see
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@TheScienceFoundation I resort to ad hominem because you are a sh*t-for-brains moron, who could not recognize an assertion from an offering of empirical evidence if your life depended on it. Funny thing, it does. On the day of judgment, I will find you, and then we'll play.
@BroCope And now that you've been asked for the evidence that you have only thus far claimed exists, you delve even deeper into personal attack then make a not-so-veiled threat to be carried out in fantasy land.
@BroCope Pretending to be interested in science only to snap like a 5 year old when called on your facetious posturing actually makes you look worse than if you just started out with the personal attacks which you're going to inevitably end up using anyway.
It's impossible to usefully or empirically employ any supernatural interpretation because any supernatural entity is completely indistinguishable from any other entity or no entity at all.
@TheScienceFoundation You seem to be well versed in reason so instead of spew Biblical "dogma" I'll appeal to reason. First, your comment appears to be a self-refuting statement because you've first asserted that empirical evidence is insufficient in employing that which is supernatural. Fair enough, however how can one empirically distinguish the IDEA that a supernatural entity is indistinguishable if empirical evidence is our method?
@TheScienceFoundation Also, I challenge you to watch this video and provide an intelligent and logical response to the information presented on the fossil record and the reliability of Darwin's theory. Listen to what the evolutionist at the top of their field have to say.
'But, this view is in stark contrast to the creation account in Genesis, which states the both humans and land animals were created on the same day. '
And the idea that sunrise is caused by the Earth's spin on it's axis is in stark contrast to the view that the sun is ferried across the sky by a chariot of goats.
When mythology conflicts with reality, reality is favored.
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@TheScienceFoundation My responsibility is only one thing, to warn you. That I have done, and gotten back your typical con descending illogic. There is nothing that could possibly be said to convince you because you are beyond help. So the only thing left to do is the judgment. On that day, you will assuredly know that you were a moron, but it will be WAY too late. And then it's into hell you go. There will be nothing you can do to prevent it. So you will be left blubbering and vomiting.
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I am doing the only thing I can do - to warn you. That is all that God requires of me. After you have been given a chance to turn from your sins, and refuse, then nothing can save you from the wrath of almighty God, and His angels. of which I am one.
@BroCope No you're, that was made abundantly clear when pushed you abandoned any pretense of scientific discussion and went right to the ad homs, and now projection.
you have to be jailed poor man
taniadevasconcelos 2 months ago
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i love 1:40 when he says you cant get truth without the bible as your starting document because , and the he changes what hes talking about because he doesn't know what hes talking about haha
vicwootenisgod 2 months ago
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vicwootenisgod 2 months ago
This was one of the worst presentations I've ever seen. He's just pulling shit out of his ass. What a waste of my time. I really thought I'd be impressed.
drone8888 3 months ago
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Atheists believe that objects made them what they are.
Evolution is an absolute disgrace to science.
Objects never order anything, mutations never order anything and natural selection will only select what has already been ordered.
Evolution is so irrational that it should be removed from all classrooms.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 4 months ago
There is so many errors in this presentation I do not know where to begin. But for starters, lets talk about the K-T boundary at 65,000,000 ago. It would seem the entire geology of the earth and the creatures who have lived here is all of a sudden completely incorrect. The rocks can be dated. Fossils can be dated. Are we now saying all of these techniques are wrong? So are we to return to the days when everyhone thought the earth was formed 4004 BC? Please tell me this is not so.
starman30143 10 months ago
@starman30143 Dating results are selected. The rocks are dated by the fossils and the fossils are dated by the rocks. w w wdotpathlightsdotcom/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/12fos11dothtm
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 I am not a geologist nor a volcanist. My grandfather was. I believe in a blending of science and theology and have spent my life melding the two. The Biblical account of Genesis has us to believe creation occured in about a week. Regardless of the radioactive dating method used, it is certain that this world which we inhabit is more than 4000 years old. It took a very long time for a crust to even form above the magma below us. How old do you feel our world is?
starman30143 9 months ago
@starman30143 Carl Sagan, "The only truly intellectual dishonest position out there is the position that tries to wed Genesis with big bang cosmology."
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 You didn't answer the question: How old is the earth according to your beliefs? By the way, I do like Carl Sagan as an author and cosmologist. Do you know his religious phioloshophy? Since he did not believe in creation as described in Genesis, why are you quoting him here?
starman30143 9 months ago
@starman30143 According to the Bible the earth is 6,000 years old. It was suggested by a Christian, that Dr. Sagan ask God if he was real and he declined. The quote is for the "Christian" apostates that compromise.
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Dr. Sagan is not on trial here. He did not believe as you nor I do. The age of 6,000 years is actualy not printed anywhere in the Bible as I recall. If so correct me. It was a derived figure based upon a conception that a year as described in the Bible is the same length as a calendar year is today which I think you will find no theologian believes. Would you have me believe that the City States of Greece existed when the Earth was only 3,000 years old?
starman30143 9 months ago
@starman30143 "Do you know his religious philosophy?" and I answered you.
I don't have the time to answer your questions, as comments are coming in every minute. Read the Bible and perhaps God will answer them.
Evolution:
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@starman30143 I believe the Bible and what Jesus said.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Mark 10:5,6. And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4. Was Jesus lying or just ignorant?
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 We are not discussing here the time when Adam and Eve appeared on this planet. They did not appear a few days after its formation. Rather than spar let's do this. Can we agree God created the Universe (I happen to believe there is more than one of them)? If we can agree HE did. Then can we agree HE did not sculpt each and every rock nor each and every molecule nor each and every anything. Can we agree HE started a sequence which has brought us to the here and now?
starman30143 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 I also believe wholeheartedly Jesus lived and said and did the things attributed to him. Unfortunately those things and his life have nothing to do with the creation of the Universe, our star, our planet, nor outselves. HIS life has nothing to do with the age of our planet. A perspective: God created this Universe. Why? There is no other explanation. This is not a debate between religion and science. It is one of faith that SOMETHING or SOMEONE started it all: God.
starman30143 9 months ago
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The belief aspect of evolution contributes nothing to real observational science. Molecules to man evolution [evolutionism] doesn’t help an engineer build anything, help a medical Dr. in any way, or help a biologist understand the physiology of a plant. Evolutionism’s beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with ANY of our technology. It does nothing for observational science except waste time, money, & actually detracts from real scientific research. Real scientists have better things to do.
Bereitwilligkeit 11 months ago
Also...after the flood the ark came to rest on mount arrat....good luck getting everything down from there and then getting them on another ship to send them to other continents....that means noah and his family found america waaaay before columbus....ffs i'm done.
stripes5150 11 months ago
first of all...how big was the ark?
ok, now how and the fuck could noah have gotten 2 of every living thing on there and feed them for 40 days and nights and then have them migrate all over the world in 6000 years???
Lots of shit shovelling.
there is no way this guy has gotten anything thing right except allowing himself being brainwashed as a child.
stripes5150 11 months ago
@stripes5150
1.You actually need to take the time to investigate your claims before running off at the mouth…
2.Had you done even a little research you would have known that the book of geniuses does not say that it only rained for 40 days and 40 nights it says the Ark floated then, and if you had bothered to read a little farther you would have discovered that Noah and his family were in the Ark for a year and it’s been 4500 +- years since the flood…
NATSKALUH 11 months ago
@stripes5150
3.The ark did not come to rest on the mountain of Ararat it rested in the mountains of Ararat… And seeing as you couldn’t be bothered to even get that right I’ll guess you have no idea where they are!
4.And as far as who discovered The Americas you might want to do a little research here as well, because it was not Columbus, and there are plenty of evidences for this, so much so when the tide of dogmatic rhetoric finally is corrected, they will have to rewrite the history books
NATSKALUH 11 months ago
@stripes5150
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation. —Edmund Spencer
LOL… it’s also apparent you couldn’t have or did not even bother to watch the Post above, as he quite clearly tells you the size of the Ark rather close to the beginning of the video… Only a fool will answers a thing before he hears it...
NATSKALUH 11 months ago
Excellent video !!
krisv001 1 year ago 2
lol
If the Dinosaurs were on the ship, I think the only way they wouldn't destroy and stampede and eat everyone and everything is if God kepts them calm and mellow.
xD
InkRoze 1 year ago
nice video. btw, ancient astronaut theory trumps young earth creationism.
mathewjohn5174 1 year ago
why do you even bother debating on youtube trying to get people away from their faith just give up and wait till the end if nothing happens within the next lest say 100 years u know you were rite and so what if people believe in God and try to live a good life like Jesus did there is nothing wrong with that
Taurion4467 1 year ago
We can also find pictures and photos of bigfoot and aliens. So I guess they exist.
MrWagman11 1 year ago
It's time we shed the belief in these ancient myths and fairy tales. I love Thomas Paine's comment. "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
These folks have renounced reason and are clinging to their outlandish and disproved beliefs.
MrWagman11 1 year ago
These videos are just such a stark contrast from real scientific presentations. I mean watch this video here, then watch this one;
/watch?v=H4c8L3vUH6Y
It's like going from a special needs class to a graduating class of particle physicists.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation
let me ask you a question: do you believe that given enough time ,chance, and environmental pressures pigs could gain the ability to fly?
jeffblue101 1 year ago
@jeffblue101 It's not physiologically impossible but I feel I'm going to be quote mined here.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation Yes, I saw your video recommendation however I like this one better because it shows more truth in my opinion... God created everything, flood did happen, those of us who are awake and connected with our creator have our eyes open. We can sit back and and watch prophecy unfold however I do feel bad for those who are not ready for whats to come, doesn't look like we have so much time left.
RicoRicanNYC 1 year ago
@RicoRicanNYC Truth isn't contingent upon opinion and this video has very close to none.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
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@TheScienceFoundation
"Truth isn't contingent upon opinion and this video has very close to none."
Making bold claims without evidence again I see. How typical.
BTW, I checked out your video recommendations. Just Ken Miller acting as if we "creationists just aren't listening to what evolutionists have to say" again when it is in fact the other way around.
gneisenau321 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation Moron. He brought forth dozens of independent examples. He gave very little opinion. SFB
BroCope 1 year ago
@BroCope I realize that you have to immediately resort to ad hominems for a lack of actually being able to intelligently debate but could you give an example of an assertion from this video that isn't pure fallacy? Because when I watch it that's all I see
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago 2
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@TheScienceFoundation I resort to ad hominem because you are a sh*t-for-brains moron, who could not recognize an assertion from an offering of empirical evidence if your life depended on it. Funny thing, it does. On the day of judgment, I will find you, and then we'll play.
BroCope 1 year ago
@BroCope And now that you've been asked for the evidence that you have only thus far claimed exists, you delve even deeper into personal attack then make a not-so-veiled threat to be carried out in fantasy land.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago 2
@BroCope Pretending to be interested in science only to snap like a 5 year old when called on your facetious posturing actually makes you look worse than if you just started out with the personal attacks which you're going to inevitably end up using anyway.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago 5
It's impossible to usefully or empirically employ any supernatural interpretation because any supernatural entity is completely indistinguishable from any other entity or no entity at all.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
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powersd31 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation You seem to be well versed in reason so instead of spew Biblical "dogma" I'll appeal to reason. First, your comment appears to be a self-refuting statement because you've first asserted that empirical evidence is insufficient in employing that which is supernatural. Fair enough, however how can one empirically distinguish the IDEA that a supernatural entity is indistinguishable if empirical evidence is our method?
powersd31 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation Also, I challenge you to watch this video and provide an intelligent and logical response to the information presented on the fossil record and the reliability of Darwin's theory. Listen to what the evolutionist at the top of their field have to say.
/watch?v=fXn5Li_641s
powersd31 1 year ago
'But, this view is in stark contrast to the creation account in Genesis, which states the both humans and land animals were created on the same day. '
And the idea that sunrise is caused by the Earth's spin on it's axis is in stark contrast to the view that the sun is ferried across the sky by a chariot of goats.
When mythology conflicts with reality, reality is favored.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
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@TheScienceFoundation My responsibility is only one thing, to warn you. That I have done, and gotten back your typical con descending illogic. There is nothing that could possibly be said to convince you because you are beyond help. So the only thing left to do is the judgment. On that day, you will assuredly know that you were a moron, but it will be WAY too late. And then it's into hell you go. There will be nothing you can do to prevent it. So you will be left blubbering and vomiting.
BroCope 1 year ago
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I am doing the only thing I can do - to warn you. That is all that God requires of me. After you have been given a chance to turn from your sins, and refuse, then nothing can save you from the wrath of almighty God, and His angels. of which I am one.
BroCope 1 year ago
@BroCope Then why even put on the show of being interested in real science? You're obviously not.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago 3
@TheScienceFoundation I am interested in reral science. I reject the fairy tales you defend. Magic
BroCope 1 year ago
@BroCope No you're, that was made abundantly clear when pushed you abandoned any pretense of scientific discussion and went right to the ad homs, and now projection.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
@BroCope No, you've done nothing but behave like a spoiled ill-informed child that's been corrected on the moon being made of cheese.
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago 2