Driving Lessons - Hill Starts - Learning to drive - BSM

[BMWFTW123]

Got my lessons with bsm booked, so excited, is there a good chance I will be driving a corsa? My mates using a mini but hes with someone else, I like corsas:D

[AndreasFalk8]

zzzzzz just hit the fucking gas while releasing the clutch slowly

[iownu2k7]

gary lamb is a LAD

[mastervictor123]

dude I'm looking for an American type cars you know like those in Argentina with the steering wheels on the left....

[NathanYTLGG1]

Down hill starts for the win wooo :S

[902107910]

And drive off into the sunset....

[looneyt20]

I wonder why driving schools use diesel engines which i think are quite easy to drive because they don't stall easily and you can move the car with the clutch without putting any gas, i think they should teach students with petrol engines which is more difficult, I am a new driver, i hardly stall a diesel engine, but i stall a petrol engine constantly which i hate.

[TheTman307]

didn't help at all.

[Timsalt3100]

@TheTman307 I agree it does not you can watch all the video's you want but trying to do this is a complete nightmare and it does get frustrating quickly you wont get it quickly I have been trying to do it in a corsa now for about 4 weeks and i am hating it as i am switching to auto within the next week it wont be a issue for me anymore (personal coordination problems and other issues have resulted in the change :-( I hope to take a manual test in the future)

[TheTman307]

@Timsalt3100 NO!! don't switch back to auto. When I watched this video I had no idea how to drive stick. Now I just find it boring to drive auto. Hills are pretty easy. If you know how to drive stick on somewhat of a flat surface (perfectly) the ability just comes to you. On a flat surface try this: start engine and foot on clutch and brake, switch first gear, let go of brake not clutch. Slowly let go of the clutch, notice how the car already moves without pressing the gas.

[Timsalt3100]

@TheTman307 too late i have made the switch going out with a auto instructor on thursday there is nothing to stop me taking a manual test in the future but for the time being i feel it is the right move for me with my learning and coordination problems it is a little more expensive. i have found a few auto models made by a few manfacturers that will suit me down to the ground after I pass like the 700cc smart fourtwo automatic its road tax is only £30 a year and it gets 65 MPG on petrol.

[TheTman307]

@Timsalt3100 Automatic vehicles are for women. Haha jk. Have fun

[TheTman307]

@Timsalt3100 This is called friction point. Now keep practicing that until you memorize that position.

On a hill: hold brake and change to first gear, let go of the clutch to that friction point while braking, quickly let go of the brake and press gas. The car will roll back a couple inches but keep pressing gas. If it only revs, let go of the clutch a little more. This just means that you haven't reached that friction point.

[210482fmj]

do you realize how many dead sea creatures crude oil drilling causes. everytime you fill up at the pump remember that many sea creatures died as a result all just like you with feelings accept they live in water.

[angrygunsmith]

i think the use of the accelerator is excessive and might fuck up the clutch, you dont want to see your car dip like that, your better off slightly rolling by only applying the clutch hen giving some gas. wont make a huge difference to ur clutchs life but it all counts

[TheGeologist1]

2:09 for those who like the speaker

[Swich94]

The clutch doesnt like me :'(

[loki1066]

Hope you all learnt the manouevre before BSM went bust!

[AllInDrummer]

my instructor even told me that hill start with the hand brake was harder than with the foot brake :D

[loki1066]

@AllInDrummer

Ha - what bollocks.

[SuperJUSTME90]

I passed my test eight months ago... and now ive completely forgotten how to drive! I neeeed help. think i might book a few more lessons.

[SuperStevie1967]

That gravity stuff is brilliant,it keeps our feet planted firmly on the ground,but unfortunately it affects the way the car performs,it's either your friend or foe whilst learning to drive,if you wher riding a bike uphill you'd pedal harder .or if you kicked a ball uphill but didnt kick it hard enough it would stop and roll back then the next time you'd kick it harder.

[MrRegreg]

Not the best video, as for Mr Lamb looking at some of his driving I am surprised that he is an instructor! Must be a grade 4!

[1982FMJ]

the whole thing is just about making money. insurance is the biggest scam of all. what a con

[robslater90]

I just rely on the clutch for hill starts and add gas once i've released the handbrake, is that ok? or should i really add the revs beforehand? im a newish driver (been driving about 3 months) and do have a licence.

[DMCDominat0r]

@robslater90 Really depends on the car, some cars are really forgiving.

[bennyboy9012]

I done this a week ago xD I was the first one this year to do it properly on the first time :D

[DynastyPercussion]

I LOVE these videos. There's no racism or pressure what-so-ever which I find to be quite relieving since I live in America and everyone knows that nobody is equal here.

It's funny that people look at me like I should go back to where I came from and since I'm Native-American it's just the most ironic thing I've EVER seen. =D

[bfcricky]

I have already driven a Ford Fiesta ST, Ford Focus RS Mk2, Fiat Punto S and a Rover 200 and my first lesson is tomorrow :D

[FibrousAcquiescence]

I just changed instructor and I've noticed that I'm driving better because he talks less and is more calm. Need to geet used to upward hill-starts though. Downhill is easy.

[missamy888]

Good video, really helpfull =D

[FerrariGood]

If I stall loads of times, my instructor just does the work in the passenger seat. Lol. You eventually get the hang of it though. =) I've had to practice on really steep hills =P

[cuteangie]

LOL!! The first time I went driving was at the roads by the mountains and their was tons of hills and I did really good, but I had to confess i was scared though!!

[pyote5]

Gary Lamb has been a BSM Instructor for over 20 years i wonder how long iit will be before that goes out of my head

[suraiyasz]

@pyote5 lol,....:D...u r so funny..

[m92singh]

@pyote5 loll

[ambaya86]

@pyote5 I always keep thinking how old he is...

[08Mihi08]

@ambaya86 omg me too LOL

[hsbpsy]

i always stall doing this

[l4dima]

was really disheartening n dont know what to do now, has actually put me off driving coz obv im terrible bt he didnt tell me just kept giving me false hopes. has this happened to anyone else? and what do i do to get over it? im upset and p****d off at the same time. any replies greatly appreciated.

[2709aaron]

It will come soon. I used to stall my instructors car constantly at any junction.

Then I just got the nack for it.

Make sure youve got plenty of revs before u start on a hill (coz if u role backwards u fail on the practical test) they slowly raise ya clutch then when the back starts to sink downward release the hand break an then put ya clutch up slowly. with plenty of gas.

It will come soon. It did with me and when it did i wondered what I was making such a fuss about it.

[Zildjian285]

I'm not a BSM customer, but if I were you I'd contact your instructor and ask why he hasn't turned up for the last two lessons.

Do you have his contact details?

Unless he has a VERY good excuse, I'd make a complaint and consider changing instructors. It might be a bit of a pain, but it sounds to me like your instructor is either unreliable or unthoughtful.

Don't let it get you down though, just keep practising.

Do you have anyone else you can go out with for the experience, like a parent, etc?

[jackreynolds93]

your retarded they are piss easy

[maniac9856]

Well if you use BSM, i recommend you dont as they spend most of their time just talking to you rather than letting you get on and drive.

[Isuzulu]

@maniac9856 im with BSM and my instructor doesn't talk excessively, I reckon I do more driving than he does talking!

[daamericanidiot]

@Isuzulu I have to disagree, my BSM driving instructor talks toooo much.....................

[l4dima]

bsm customers help needed

was with bsm for about 25 lessons, doing quite well (not perfect bt slowly geting there) till i had a really bad lesson where made unforgivable mistakes. after that my instructor didnt show up for my nxt lesson. phoned office to complain, they (lied) said it had been rescheduled, smth i didnt even know about. anyway dring instructor didnt show up AGAIN the nxt time.

[50cent7589]

automatic is gay

[alanquarendon]

The way this guy takes off up that hill would cause chronic bunny hopping. The clutch pedal must be held stationery when the handbrake is released. I love the way he almost indicates. He used to be indecisive but after 20 years he is not sure! You don't check around then indicate. What about indicate your intention, then check to see if it is safe just before you commit?

As for going down hill, why involve the accelerator in a side street with such a steep hill.

You guys have no idea!!

[jpconnor1955]

@alanquarendon

I'm sorry, but you have no idea. You DO check then indicate. What about if you indicate as someone is coming up behind you. They think you're going to pull out in front of them and slow down. You wonder whether they are slowing down to let you out. Confusion! You indicate your intention when you have decided it is safe to pull out!

[alanquarendon]

Good point about drivers slowing for you, that could be embarrassing, the rest of the video is so sad. What about the hill start, that method is totally not going to work?

[polypolyman]

It's a good thing the US tests can be done in an automatic car...

Better to get the license, then practice stick later.

[woody4114]

@polypolyman you can get an automatic lisence in the UK....

[polypolyman]

yes, but that only allows you to drive automatic cars, no?

[woody4114]

@polypolyman yeh why does the US one allow you to drive either? :S

[1littlolo1]

This is good but I can never do it! I can do everything except for hill starts it's very frustrating. I'll hopefully get the hang of It soon . I'm 15

[evertonarescum]

This guys crap. He stalled. Im definitely not going with bsm if thats the best they can offer

[ihor69]

your an idiot. he obviously stalled it on purpose.

[gamerwarriorx]

Watch my videos ten times better :)

[mastershukaku]

crap like this makes me want to start my own drving school

[hayabusafmw]

wtf , ? he was on first and pressing no brake this is bullshit P

[analogueorange]

you don't need to hold the brake or e-brake to start uphill. just find the friction point and go from there.

[SaiE8]

actually you need to handbrake up securing the wheels, when you on a hill, find the biting point when the car is about to move let go of the handbrake and accelerate harder than normal to go up with some speed in 1st or 2nd gear.

[analogueorange]

yeah if you're a beginner

[SaiE8]

duh, for the test its actually complusary, if you dont do it and the car rolls back allot you fail, if youre doing the test your bound to be nervous and probaly rol the car more than a metre and fail.

[analogueorange]

didn't know this is a procedure for passing a road test. i've been driving for 10 years. sorry.

[SaiE8]

ah ok, DSA changes allot over the years and keep on adding random stuff. like the show me tell me which was introduced in 2003.

[09204418448]

wow im 13 and i did it THANKS BDSM PORN VIDEOS

[RossFxx]

I'm 14 and I agree with you.

[izrinroxas]

i prefer this lady as my driving instructor, shes so calm. 5 stars for calm lady!

[DAdZor]

she speaks like a robot

[ShinjukuKohaku]

@izrinroxas hahahah i reckon :P

[spongj3m3]

your instructor was most probably using his clutch cos they have to make sure u dont role back. u were probably lucky aswell

[sof1map]

i was doing hill starts in our ute the other day, it sucks cuz you have to be really coordinated with all feet and hands.. i revv the car hard sumtimes.. i think it might blow up but its just the timing really between it all that gets it up to scratch

[Cypher791]

i hate them =p... i try get loads of power to get up the hill... i always rev the engine till it sounds like its gonna explode... then stall anyway... i stalled 3 times on my TEST =o... examiner must have been tired or something because i still passed =D

[Swiper104]

wow lol

[ferrarithefastest]

@Cypher791

If your stalling you shouldnt have your license!

[alwaysallblacks]

@ferrarithefastest stalling counts as a minor on your test!! you are allowed 16 minors

[webdeveloper007]

@Cypher791 lucky shit eh

[MrMaxpayn3]

@Cypher791 stall?

[me5ame5ame5a]

it;s very easy and who wants to know how to start on ahill ask me

[J999ACK]

I think thats the point of the video

[lasteve99]

yesterday i went uphill and it was traffic then when i start it i was so scared that i might ram the car at my back so i depress the clutch then gas but it was just revving.

[lolcleary]

ok i get the "20 years" experiance bullshit now so fucking anoying

[fullonforce]

ye its on every dam video...

[JoeyWildstyle]

i swear she never said take ur handbraake off in the first place

[jrwilliams]

ha - exactly!

[alanquarendon]

Driving off procedure in this video is pathetic. You do not headcheck before signal. This guy performs a headcheck and then drives off five seconds later. things can change by then. How retarded.

[A74F3]

hey im learning to drive soon if anyone has any tips id be very grateful

[racketer]

book your theory as soon as possible. Also listen to your instructor very carefully. Always take things slow and steady. Pay attention to everything around. As they say "slow and steady wins the race". So dont rush it just take it slow and steady

[mcfakris634]

or get an automatic

[MLeyden91]

I would shit a brick if I started rolling back like that!

[shepherd47]

so what if you don't have a handbrake then what do you do?

[miked0yle]

You dont need hand brake really...

You just need one foot on the brake (push till the end) and an other one on the clutch.

[miked0yle]

1. You start letting go of the clutch untill you notice the car is vibrating (trying to move).

2. You let go of the brake and you keep the car still-semi moving (you controll this with the clutch).

3. You accelerate to move faster. If you use only the clutch you will move but quite slowly. Its important to start slowly and then accelerate once the car has started to move without the accelerator. Once the car is moving you let go of the clutch.

[pabradeskaimas]

rev her to 6500 and then release clutch quickly. then you wont stall xDDD

[StevieFan85]

Really can't stand this womans accent, they use her on every clip and she says the same thing every time.."GARY LAMB OUT BSM INSTRUCTOR OF OVER 20 YEARS" Ooooh fuck off.

[lonerook860]

BSM cost a lot, but if you are a complete newbie then they provide a lot of valuable skills.

[poop0800]

how much is alot...? per hour..? cus i used to take lessons for £17 per hour...this was like a year ago..now my instructor increased the price from £17 to £19 per hour...cus of fuel prices...but since fuel prices have gone up havent they come done since then...?

[lonerook860]

It is £27 per hour where I learnt to drive. Not really worth it if you have a good driver with you and a car you can use yourself.

[BMSPaintballer]

what if I don't have a handbrake?

[shaunaye]

then your fucked lol

[HCNguyen86]

then don't bother taking it out on the road.

[IrisMG]

I know it's a month since you asked, but If I could offer a more helpful reply, all cars, at least in America, have an emergency brake. If they're on the console, they're called handbrakes. Vans and other larger vehicles have them on the floor, usually to the left of the brake pedal. Hope that helps.

[undocumentedspot]

use a brick behind the rear wheel. if you don't have handbrake.

[IceBkk]

i have to admit this is a good video and all that and seem like BSM are doing well. I wouldnt choose them personally I like my driving school I'm with :D They rock!!!

[shaunaye]

its harder than it looks trust me :) stalled it 4 times today haha

[Boeing757basher07]

lol clutch control is harder then it looks, im learning to drive in a Rover 200 lol !

[DoncasterMc]

hahaha!

[scuderia515]

lol, maybe they just want to be a pain in the ass

[scuderia515]

what's the reason for not being allowed to use the handbrake?

[yeknom79]

i gotta tell you i can teach someone a hill start in alot less time than this video....typical bsm wasting pupils time and money! why watch stupid videos when you can get in a car and learn it for real? oh thats right because making you pay to watch videos before you get in a car is good for buslness rather than seeing what someone is capable of for real!

B S M.......Bad, shocking, moneymaking!

[JohnAGood]

Anyone taking lessons with bSM should be aware that a high percentage of their instructors are trainees. BSM will not inform you of this and still charge you the full price that tends to be higher than other driving schools. If your BSM instructor has a pink badge they are not fully qualified. It is also a myth that BSM have a higher passrate than other driving schools. Even BSM do not claim this as it is not true.

[tomlandrymiddleschoo]

I cant believe youve bin on all the bsm clips and posted this shit. im a pdi and ive never had any complaints from my pupils. ive got a family and career to think about. i dont need gobby dickheads like yourself putting my income at risk. if the pupils feel they are not getting anywhere then they can ask for another instructor. all trainees have passed their advanced driving test and had 40hrs instructor training. everyone has to start somewhere. stop badmouthing others and think wot yer sayin.

[JohnAGood]

What I am stating is simply the facts, I notice you can't deny this, your use of personal abuse rather than denying these business practices says it all really. If you rand a plumbers or electricians I'm sure you'd be delighted if they told you they were just sending you an apprentice but still charging the full amount. It's true there is nithing illegal about what BSM are doing but why do they not make it know to their customers?

[tomlandrymiddleschoo]

look, you cant blame me for being angry. i think that what you are suggesting is that the pupil is in someway being ripped off or conned. remember,that to become a pdi you need to be a least 21, been driving for 3yrs, passed an advanced theory test, an advanced driving test and had at least 40hrs instructor training. its hardly the same as an apprentice plumber. the only way you can obtain experience is by serving the time and everybody has to start at the begining.

[kink911]

the instructor was a knife fighter?

[crossraid89]

automatic cars are for noobs my friend

[rigelminor]

god damn does anyone have a hill start video without a manual?? The car i am using is an automatic. None of these help my particular issue.

[encremagiq]

id like to see this dude remain calm in san francisco on a 65 degree sloping hill

[fran20055]

hill starts are ez mode!

[unsworth109]

Yes but an "SUV" as you put it has a much bigger engine with a LOT more torque.. Its a lot easier in a 4x4..

I can do hillstarts.. I was 17 last Thursday and did 60 miles in my old landrover with a bog standard 2.25 litre diesel and a shitty handbrake.. There was a car about 5 inches from the rear tow ball.. First go and sucess.. But trust me its easier in a 4x4 or SUV..

[docstafa]

you will need to do a hill start when u park on a hill... thats the only reason u do them...

[0m0a0x0i0b0n0]

I hate hill starts at traffic lights, today I tried to use the hand brake method and stalled the car, then I rushed, as there were cars behind me, and I spun the wheels for like 10 seconds, making me look like an asshole. Damn I hate hill starts!

[sazzlepops]

haha i do that a lot... so glad i'm not the only one!

[yogsbear]

you'll wear the clutch out if you don't use the hand break

[Naawae]

so... a hill start is just like a normal start except you use more power?

[fonyasuperstar]

cos omack

[DavidTL]

When I were learning to drive back in the 90s, this was my worst fear! The trick is to give the car plenty of acceleration when you set off, it is very easy not to give it enough thus stalling the car.

[holyboy27]

Hey I dont understand. You're meaning to say that sometimes if the hill is too slopy, we can just shift to 2nd gear from neutral and start moving?

[IceBkk]

yeh i did this with my instructor on a hill going down obviously lol. It was really kool haha!

[poop0800]

cus if you try to move off in 2nd gear youll defntly stall...1st gear is a moving off gear...so always go in to 1st wen uve stopped completly...wen im with my instructor and i stop at junctions.traffic lights/roudabouts etc...sometimes i 4get to go into 1st and if he doesnt remind me I STALL ....eeek....not good wen uve got so much traffic behind u beepin at u to move off...lol

[batlin]

Not necessarily - I've seen people move from stop in second and even third gear, but of course you're much more likely to stall (and I don't think the instructor/examiner would approve :D).

[wales4everok]

fantastic video very proffesional, not like some of the other learing to drive videos i have been watching some of them are hilarious. Thank you BSM

[wtfyamean]

thia what i was worried about..good video

[bf2modsde]

I didnt learn the handbrake thing, my teacher told me to use clutch and brake only, works as well :)

[tylnywachacz]

and for this 20 years he didn't learn that there's no need to push the button on handbrake when u want to apply it...

[ErosJC]

I think it's just his habit? I also do that, hate to hear the sound created by the button when pulling the handbrake

[chieftaster]

yes there is, if you dont it causes ware and tare on the locking mechanism

[carolineolley]

yeah, you're not supposed to put up the handbrake on the ratchet, it damages it! its like dry steering, we can all do it but we shouldn't!

[JohnF30Music]

lol tylnywachacz is funny + right :D u dont need to push the button to apply the brake

[rhys21kipling]

no its not a autmatic fail everyne stalls even the best drives because its somtimes the car . and ramsy66 is right dont release the hand brake or the brake till you have found the biting point

[tylnywachacz]

automatic gearbox has a cluth, rhere's just no 3rd pedal

[poop0800]

yep thats wat ive been taught cus if u realease the hand break b4 uve got to the bitin point ull rool backwards if ur on a steep hill or a slippery road..i think....

[kutely]

can i ask if you stall is that an automatic fail?!

[wales4everok]

No stalling is not an automatic fail, but what u do after can be. Do not panic or rush keep calm. Apply the hanbrake and select neutral, then prepare the car to move, important do your observations and do not move off until it is SAFE.

[alanquarendon]

You guys have no idea. Drop the handbrake and then let the clutch out. You will roll back. WRONG

[poop0800]

but isnt it better to preapare your car for moving off before uve realeased the hand break...?

[alanquarendon]

Watch the video. He drops the handbrake, then he finds friction point. Basic error. Laughable.

[adderseal]

i think its a case of bad editing...all the clips for indicating, handbrake release, clutch control etc are the same for all their videos and then spliced together, so its not the instructor's error, its the video editor's.

[alanquarendon]

Thanks for that. I hope it is bad editing. it is so pathetic to watch.

[SirealKiller]

Whats a clutch?

[natureboy602]

A clutch, it is for moving the car and changing gear's.if you don't use the clutch you ain't going nowhere and if you don't use it change gear's itont allow youunill you press the clutch,as with a automatic ithasit own clutch in the gear box so you only have to operate the brake,accelrator

[orrin4]

What if your car dosnt have a clutch??

[tylnywachacz]

if your car doesn't have a cluth it's not a car...

[orrin4]

That makes sense, I guess?

[orrin4]

That makes sense, I guess?

[JohnF30Music]

rofl tylnywachacz ure so fuckin funny hahaha :D

[ramsy66]

They aren't too hard :)

Just don't release the handbrake untill you're at the biting point.