interesting note.. when Resto(who also admitted to using loaded wraps during his bout with Collins) hit Collins to the body, Collins told his wife that he "never been hit that hard" When Margarito was exposed as a cheat, Kermit Cintron was asked if he thought Margarito used loaded wraps and he said yes and that after the 2nd fight he told his girlfriend(or wife) that he "never been hit that hard his entire life"
Very touching story.Brutal,Brutal fight buy two very Tough you men. Resto was very miss lead as a Pro fighter. Tough rugged guy.
Billy Collins again had no chance buy the sounds of things. Having your dad say to his son {Go and stand up for yourself and stand your ground is one thing.} But fight to the death like a one of Daddys Pitt Bulls from such and early age is dam right SAD. No wonder his dad feels a lot of guilt. Boxing really has come a long way since 1983. {R,I,P} Billy.
@kc1973able Thats true Resto wasnt a big puncher by no means and we can tell the diff. when someone's gloves r loaded. when i was boxing i sparred with a guy that didnt have any punching power but when he hit me with a overhanded right i felt the diff. i told my trainer this guy doesnt have any power but i felt the shot check his gloves... come to find out that he was using super bag gloves. Its a diff feeling when u get hit with loaded gloves
dam i saw d documentary and it was fuckin crazy fo some reason i felt bad fo luis resto to i mean living with that guilt fo more than 25 yrs i think that was his punishment anyways
disgracefull! that what this is. even if resto thought he would knock him out earlier with less padding he should have given up the fight when he saw the damage. what an idiot. just geos to shoe that collins would have destroyed him in a fair fight! how weak are his punches if he has to cheat?
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i say this resto did bad by fighting with those gloves but its not his fault that collins died in a car crash resto did not put a gun to his head and said drive drunk a kill your self resto should move on and get over it
its clear why he died to many bush beer he was slammin down and they try to blame it on the minority because someone took a pubic hair long object out the glove yah right bich
They took an ounce of padding out of each glove and he dipped his wraps in plaster (plaster of paris) don't talk so dam stupid! He might as well of just been using brass knuckles to fight him! What, are you ignorant or something?!?
Billy's father is greedy, Billy could of fought after the incident, But Billy's father did not want him too because, he thought he would receive more money from the lawsuits they placed on the boxing comission.
Luis Resto is sorry for what he did, he gave everything he to the sport, but people want to talk down on Resto.
I blame Billy Collins Sr. for wanting compensation, Billy Jr. could have made a comeback.
I agree with the Collins Sr. blame. People never understood why I blame him but he's as much to blame for this entire episode as Resto, Lewis, and the NYSAC
I'm not sure health/injury risk had anything to do with it. Fighters have come back successfullyfrom worse eye injuries and have had successful comebacks.
I think Sr had so much anger built up inside him after the incident he reacted more on emotion more than anything else.
What was a bigger farce is the NYSAC continuing to not take any responsibility for this. As I asked before: why weren't there inspectors in the Resto locker room until after they were gloved up?
dont remeber but u should watch the documentary of billy collins vs resto. panama asked the inspector to go ask thier superiours for something and thats when they gutted the gloves
Today official wil spent time with the boxer before the bout and they will signed their name one each gloves before all peoples exit from the dressing room.
why cant you all let ray rest in peace along with our family..andrea your a joke...you will get yours like the rest of them in due time((marylee rays cousin))
This story really pisses me off...i wish i could get my hands around the neck of panama lewis snap his spinal cord...much respect to collins and his family for being the toughest s.o.b. to every step into the ring!!
not so tough to fall to his own demons! RIP nevertheless. i also am pissed. but i am pissed at collins for doing that to himself. his undefeated is not much when we lost a major fight within himself
so true, imagine if collins wouldve fought afterwards. he wouldve been a big name in boxing with a chin like that noone could hurt him. gettin punched in the face without goin down like that... can you imagine that without padding. what a chin
First off, being an' ex-fighter and knowing how hard the shots are with 8 or even 10 ounce gloves this is a crime. Look back in the history books , you don't have to go back that far(mancini vs kim). After mancini litteraly pounded Kim to death after 15 rounds he was never the fighter he was before. Going back to this murder in the ring, old panama had always been known for his dirty tactics. Shame on him.
Also how many years later did collins die. was resto driving the car, did resto run collins off the road no. Panama still need to be punish for what he did. I think resto serve his time and paid for his part.
drunk driving killed billy collins jr not resto. What resto and panama was wrong. But nobody is responsible for billy collins death but himself. DONT DRIVE AND DRIVE HE WANTED TO DIE
Resto and Lewis weren't changed with murder. Nobody is saying they actually killed Collins. The point is that it makes the story all the more tragic. It made Resto feel responsible. People feel some sympathy for Resto because he'll never have a clear conscience. In the documentary, his son said "So? you had nothin to do with that. You didn't kill that guy." and Resto said "But it was the fight that made him do it"
he commited suicide!!! he lost his vision. his manlyhoood ,his ability to figh and his ability to get a job. all because some idiot decided to use illigal ways to win a fight!!! put yourself in billys place. no future no sight and no money.
if he lost his sight why was he driving. Resto and panama was wrong so was collins. he should have stop the fight. it one thing being called tough but that wasnt tough that was stupid. he should have quit
luis made a mistake, but he is sorry so i dont know, all i know is that billy collins was toughest damn boxer ever to step into the ring, its a shame his career ended so early
resto is a pussy. i'll fight that piece of shit right now. i'm glad hes living his life in shame and agony. and that piece of shit panama needs to get his ass beat too.
Every fighter watch their hands..even Margarito...if listen billy he goes "hes tougher than i thought" which means his power in hands they never saw on tape before...gatti rember gained 35 lbs over nite and beat unbeatin fight in 2 rounds that uy retired and sue...that billy tradgedy is NY state and 2 cheaters
It's sad how Resto apologized to the family when he didn't know the padding was taken out until the middle of the fight. Panama didn't even apologize to the family which is sad.
towards the end...Resto did knew about the setup, It's taking it's toll on Resto of guilt but to lessen weight of burden he did apologize to everybody especially/visited to Billy's grave and confronted Panama which he deny's it still!
People need understand back in 80's and before that U fought til the end..Rember Boom BOOm Mancini -KIM fight that fight never got stop...Y u think fights today are stop early...PROTECTION
Ya, Resto is still alive. A couple years ago he apologised to Collins' family and admitted that he also had plaster in his gloves so he was pretty much hitting Collins with rocks.
1stplates I bet you are a boricua? huh papi no seas inorante antes que abras la boca al mundo cabron. Resto era una mierda igual panama lewis pregunta sobre la famosa botella de Aaron Pryor.
Resto&Margarito Should die real shit burn in hell Resto For killing Poor Conllins and for Margarito for almost doing that to Cotto Cheating piceces of shit!
I think there was there was probably some serious betting for a ko so they paddded the gloves. what a shame. As far as what happens without the glove tampering. I still think resto wins.
He damaged Collin's facial bones because he had plaster in his wraps and the pads ripped from the gloves. he still couldn't put Collins down. If Collins is not slowed by getting hit repeatedly with a cast, how do you think Resto would have beaten him in a legal fight? Collins was tougher, hit harder, and was the better boxer.
That doesn't negate what happened. Resto and Lewis both got well deserved jail time. Unfortunately, lewis did not receive a lifetime ban, he is still training fighters in Florida
Resto U're a mega bitch of all mother fucker of this world !!! BIG MOTHER FUCKER !!!!
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Panamal Lewis i hope u die in hell u fucking nigga shit!
NODguy 6 months ago
interesting note.. when Resto(who also admitted to using loaded wraps during his bout with Collins) hit Collins to the body, Collins told his wife that he "never been hit that hard" When Margarito was exposed as a cheat, Kermit Cintron was asked if he thought Margarito used loaded wraps and he said yes and that after the 2nd fight he told his girlfriend(or wife) that he "never been hit that hard his entire life"
IpManVS10blackbelts 8 months ago
Panamal Lewis is a big scumbag
donshery 9 months ago
@donshery He should have been banned from boxing after the Pryor-Arguello I fight.
serhandayi1978 8 months ago
Very touching story.Brutal,Brutal fight buy two very Tough you men. Resto was very miss lead as a Pro fighter. Tough rugged guy.
Billy Collins again had no chance buy the sounds of things. Having your dad say to his son {Go and stand up for yourself and stand your ground is one thing.} But fight to the death like a one of Daddys Pitt Bulls from such and early age is dam right SAD. No wonder his dad feels a lot of guilt. Boxing really has come a long way since 1983. {R,I,P} Billy.
kc1973able 1 year ago
@kc1973able Thats true Resto wasnt a big puncher by no means and we can tell the diff. when someone's gloves r loaded. when i was boxing i sparred with a guy that didnt have any punching power but when he hit me with a overhanded right i felt the diff. i told my trainer this guy doesnt have any power but i felt the shot check his gloves... come to find out that he was using super bag gloves. Its a diff feeling when u get hit with loaded gloves
TheTony22019 4 months ago
Panama Lewis is making a ton of money, Luis Resto is clinging to life and Resto's come clean too, something wrong with that you think?
WSBT960 1 year ago
Collins beat Harold Brazier who went on to be Champ.
bodily77 1 year ago
R.I.P. BILLY COLLINS
DJZR1 1 year ago
Ricans should be mad at this guy not margarito
poncho828 1 year ago
fuck panama lewis, he destroyed the career/life of both collins and resto!!
DrDeathRNMD98 1 year ago
dam i saw d documentary and it was fuckin crazy fo some reason i felt bad fo luis resto to i mean living with that guilt fo more than 25 yrs i think that was his punishment anyways
tico1289 1 year ago
Panama Lewis should never be aloud near a boxing ring. He is a discrace to the sport.
mrshinobimonkey 1 year ago 3
if billy could take palster punches he could have easily been an all time great
saloon1st 1 year ago 3
he inspired me to keep boxing
perezdanny09 1 year ago
disgracefull! that what this is. even if resto thought he would knock him out earlier with less padding he should have given up the fight when he saw the damage. what an idiot. just geos to shoe that collins would have destroyed him in a fair fight! how weak are his punches if he has to cheat?
dicerevo 2 years ago
Thats Because Don Kings A Scum Bag.
Metatarsal 2 years ago
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i say this resto did bad by fighting with those gloves but its not his fault that collins died in a car crash resto did not put a gun to his head and said drive drunk a kill your self resto should move on and get over it
bernardob1262 2 years ago
its clear why he died to many bush beer he was slammin down and they try to blame it on the minority because someone took a pubic hair long object out the glove yah right bich
r3ach 2 years ago
Your either trolling or Ignorant maybe both.
Azicpok1 2 years ago
They took an ounce of padding out of each glove and he dipped his wraps in plaster (plaster of paris) don't talk so dam stupid! He might as well of just been using brass knuckles to fight him! What, are you ignorant or something?!?
toosyboy777 2 years ago
*2 ounce
and there was also a hanger involed with the plaster.
makpak 2 years ago
@r3ach fuck you punk ass motherfucker
bigjohnstud75 1 year ago
Billy's father is greedy, Billy could of fought after the incident, But Billy's father did not want him too because, he thought he would receive more money from the lawsuits they placed on the boxing comission.
Luis Resto is sorry for what he did, he gave everything he to the sport, but people want to talk down on Resto.
I blame Billy Collins Sr. for wanting compensation, Billy Jr. could have made a comeback.
pelenkous 2 years ago
I agree with the Collins Sr. blame. People never understood why I blame him but he's as much to blame for this entire episode as Resto, Lewis, and the NYSAC
sdayi110 2 years ago
well Billy could get fights after the resto fight, but his dad held him back inorder to sue.
saweet999 2 years ago
I'm not sure health/injury risk had anything to do with it. Fighters have come back successfullyfrom worse eye injuries and have had successful comebacks.
I think Sr had so much anger built up inside him after the incident he reacted more on emotion more than anything else.
What was a bigger farce is the NYSAC continuing to not take any responsibility for this. As I asked before: why weren't there inspectors in the Resto locker room until after they were gloved up?
sdayi110 2 years ago
dont remeber but u should watch the documentary of billy collins vs resto. panama asked the inspector to go ask thier superiours for something and thats when they gutted the gloves
saweet999 2 years ago
I remember that being said but that's where I thknk the NYSAC dropped the bal. I always thought someone should be in there regardless.
sdayi110 2 years ago
Today official wil spent time with the boxer before the bout and they will signed their name one each gloves before all peoples exit from the dressing room.
HIGHLANDERGANASNYA 2 years ago
why cant you all let ray rest in peace along with our family..andrea your a joke...you will get yours like the rest of them in due time((marylee rays cousin))
nunna10 2 years ago
This story really pisses me off...i wish i could get my hands around the neck of panama lewis snap his spinal cord...much respect to collins and his family for being the toughest s.o.b. to every step into the ring!!
mckuhn1 2 years ago 20
not so tough to fall to his own demons! RIP nevertheless. i also am pissed. but i am pissed at collins for doing that to himself. his undefeated is not much when we lost a major fight within himself
jd8muzik 2 years ago
It pisses me off, too. This incident ruined Collins' life and led to his emotional downfall and eventual death.
I was only 2 years old when this happened, so I just learned about it after recently watching a documentary about this on HBO.
Knowing that people do these things for money truly sickens me. And did you see that sunnuvabitch Resto give Collins a HUG when the fight was over?
A special place in hell awaits for people like that.
So sad.
Lonsoleil 2 years ago
yea, just think... if resto wouldve stayed away from the guy till he got his gloves off he wouldve got away with it
stubby42642 2 years ago 3
justice prevailes, even if it takes 25years.
makpak 2 years ago
25 years later there still isn't any justice I'm afraid.
sdayi110 2 years ago 4
wait and c.
resto came clean.
some more time and there will be justice.
makpak 2 years ago
so true, imagine if collins wouldve fought afterwards. he wouldve been a big name in boxing with a chin like that noone could hurt him. gettin punched in the face without goin down like that... can you imagine that without padding. what a chin
stubby42642 2 years ago
Fixed fights are not new to this century. Check out my book, A Shot at the Title. It describes the fixed fight back in 1906.
Arlsparaco 2 years ago
First off, being an' ex-fighter and knowing how hard the shots are with 8 or even 10 ounce gloves this is a crime. Look back in the history books , you don't have to go back that far(mancini vs kim). After mancini litteraly pounded Kim to death after 15 rounds he was never the fighter he was before. Going back to this murder in the ring, old panama had always been known for his dirty tactics. Shame on him.
sandblasted88 2 years ago
I made a mistake it wasnt years it was months.
music3175 2 years ago
Also how many years later did collins die. was resto driving the car, did resto run collins off the road no. Panama still need to be punish for what he did. I think resto serve his time and paid for his part.
music3175 2 years ago
drunk driving killed billy collins jr not resto. What resto and panama was wrong. But nobody is responsible for billy collins death but himself. DONT DRIVE AND DRIVE HE WANTED TO DIE
music3175 2 years ago
Resto and Lewis weren't changed with murder. Nobody is saying they actually killed Collins. The point is that it makes the story all the more tragic. It made Resto feel responsible. People feel some sympathy for Resto because he'll never have a clear conscience. In the documentary, his son said "So? you had nothin to do with that. You didn't kill that guy." and Resto said "But it was the fight that made him do it"
AlliedRecords 2 years ago 2
he commited suicide!!! he lost his vision. his manlyhoood ,his ability to figh and his ability to get a job. all because some idiot decided to use illigal ways to win a fight!!! put yourself in billys place. no future no sight and no money.
chamukoboi 2 years ago
if he lost his sight why was he driving. Resto and panama was wrong so was collins. he should have stop the fight. it one thing being called tough but that wasnt tough that was stupid. he should have quit
music3175 2 years ago
im a little confused and not to be rude but resto didnt know the padding was removed and collins died in a car accident right?
ChuckNorrisHackedMe 2 years ago
luis made a mistake, but he is sorry so i dont know, all i know is that billy collins was toughest damn boxer ever to step into the ring, its a shame his career ended so early
hvacalbo88 2 years ago
Fuck resto foreal.. him and that bitch ass panama should have been in jail for way longer. Bitch asses
nnamdiekezie2 2 years ago
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KiwiiKilla 2 years ago
Poor Billy. A screwed up and tragic situation that was. And Panama still won't man up & just ADMIT what he did.
Fayme20 2 years ago 3
resto is a pussy. i'll fight that piece of shit right now. i'm glad hes living his life in shame and agony. and that piece of shit panama needs to get his ass beat too.
Jerz1023 2 years ago
resto and his trainer should get his eyes beat to a pulp by bare knuckles the same way bcjr endured
swiffstep 2 years ago
great fight
ronjonto 2 years ago
Every fighter watch their hands..even Margarito...if listen billy he goes "hes tougher than i thought" which means his power in hands they never saw on tape before...gatti rember gained 35 lbs over nite and beat unbeatin fight in 2 rounds that uy retired and sue...that billy tradgedy is NY state and 2 cheaters
messiah2k7 2 years ago
Resto must suck bad if he couldn't knock Billy out or even down after ten rounds of hard fists.
Whyavier 2 years ago 6
indeed!
davi0220 2 years ago
It's sad how Resto apologized to the family when he didn't know the padding was taken out until the middle of the fight. Panama didn't even apologize to the family which is sad.
ravi18364 2 years ago
towards the end...Resto did knew about the setup, It's taking it's toll on Resto of guilt but to lessen weight of burden he did apologize to everybody especially/visited to Billy's grave and confronted Panama which he deny's it still!
davi0220 2 years ago 3
poor luis? are you fucking kidding me? He and Panama Lewis should still be in jail
tremleypnt 2 years ago
Its a sad story dang poor collins but hten again poor luis his life was never the same!!!
juliejanney 2 years ago
People need understand back in 80's and before that U fought til the end..Rember Boom BOOm Mancini -KIM fight that fight never got stop...Y u think fights today are stop early...PROTECTION
messiah2k7 2 years ago
Yep, you right. It is something that people would never understand
betin76 2 years ago
I still don't understand what Billy's corner was thinking for the whole 10 rounds!
rfmikael 2 years ago 3
The volume is way too low. It really kills the experience.
BTC141 2 years ago
imagine where billy would have been if this never happened this story is touching
Rip Billy
IsaIMember 2 years ago 2
what happened to resto after?
is he still alive?
scrubbabubba 2 years ago
There is a special on HBO on August 1st, about this fight.
DevilFish222 2 years ago
im watching it thats what made me look this up but i guess it's also on the date today w.e it is
ChuckNorrisHackedMe 2 years ago
no he died few months ater the fight
SKAT3xDISAST3R 2 years ago
Ya, Resto is still alive. A couple years ago he apologised to Collins' family and admitted that he also had plaster in his gloves so he was pretty much hitting Collins with rocks.
grits207 2 years ago 2
1stplates I bet you are a boricua? huh papi no seas inorante antes que abras la boca al mundo cabron. Resto era una mierda igual panama lewis pregunta sobre la famosa botella de Aaron Pryor.
gacuna73 2 years ago
Resto&Margarito Should die real shit burn in hell Resto For killing Poor Conllins and for Margarito for almost doing that to Cotto Cheating piceces of shit!
kevin694life 2 years ago
did he cheat in the cotto fight i heard about the plaster but in another fight
Janilenae2007 2 years ago
I think there was there was probably some serious betting for a ko so they paddded the gloves. what a shame. As far as what happens without the glove tampering. I still think resto wins.
1stplates 2 years ago
He damaged Collin's facial bones because he had plaster in his wraps and the pads ripped from the gloves. he still couldn't put Collins down. If Collins is not slowed by getting hit repeatedly with a cast, how do you think Resto would have beaten him in a legal fight? Collins was tougher, hit harder, and was the better boxer.
bayside54321 2 years ago 4
Collins was undefeated, and there was no question that he was going to win.
OzzyFan87 2 years ago
What a piece of shit thing to do, carma is a bitch.
MrLarryHarris 2 years ago 2
but Resto knew wat lewis did to his gloves
MishaPilsudski 2 years ago
Billy needed to know when to give up. Enough of this "give it all you got" nonsense, you stay down when have to stay down.
ZZnappee 2 years ago
That doesn't negate what happened. Resto and Lewis both got well deserved jail time. Unfortunately, lewis did not receive a lifetime ban, he is still training fighters in Florida
bayside54321 2 years ago
shit thats where i live
good thing i dont box lol
scrubbabubba 2 years ago
He never went down during the fight at all.
OzzyFan87 2 years ago 3
resto is an absolute cunt
SoulClappinBhoy 2 years ago
piece of shit, r.i.p. Billy
fleetwoodbrawm 2 years ago 4
Thanks for posting this
boxingfanofthegame 2 years ago
Panama Lewis is the one who should take the full brunt of the punishment! This man should of been put in prison for no less then 15 years!!
jimmyd4153 2 years ago 3
Just found this out now. What a sad SAD story!!! RIP Billy
AmadeusDC 3 years ago 12
see you in 3 years antonio
sfmasterkush 3 years ago
Why 3 ?? lol
boxingfanofthegame 2 years ago