We were listening to this in my music appreciation class and my professor asked "What does this make you think of?" and I said "A psychotic writer going on a maniacal killing spree inside a empty hotel" He said "no." Bitch.
I saw in the white bomb cloud there's a woman's face and in the dark bomb cloud you can see the face of a devil. Cool, huh? I'm also playing this "song" with my 6th grade school orchestra. I'm a 6th grade violinist and I think this song's pretty easy.
@petti712 it may sound like random notes being played, but if you really listen you can pick out one player and you can hear sequenced notation....this is actually an extremely difficult piece to perform because it is written without a meter. this type of orchestration is called Dissonance and is very difficult to purposefully make it sound like this...like i said, this isn't just random notation, but in fact very organized and sequential....
what's funny is, this piece was written without a programmatic title first. it was rejected by the public because it was so strange and unnerving. penderecki only added the title after it's rejection so that people would accept the aggitated nature of the piece. he never wrote it for or intended it to be about any kind of nuclear warfare. so, joke's on y'all!!
@love2laugh36 I prefer to think that this piece was not given its proper name at first. Chances are Penderecki was aiming for a strong emotional response to begin with but wasn't quite sure just how strong this piece actually was until he heard it performed. This piece is now famous and known by the current title for good reason. I suppose you could try to picture a fluttering butterfly instead of a nuclear bombing. . .but it wouldn't be the same.
@deecee10000 my point is simply, there are many horrific instances in history that merit music such as this piece. this piece is pinned to a specific event by a title, nothing more. no matter what you "prefer" to think, facts are facts. just helping people get them straight. i don't know why you're talking about butterflies... kind of random...
@love2laugh36 Don't bother: the guy is obviously one who thinks that the atonal aesthetic is collectively 'scary' or some shit because of the intervallic content.
@deecee10000 You said this music isn't evocative of "fluttering butterflies". You said that the REVISED title for the work is "more appropriate". What you fail to realize (or accept) is that the work was originally conceived as an exploration in various textural treatment and indeterminate pitch with no intention of relaying a program.
And it is you who is making no sense whatsoever: "I feel Penderecki did this because..." okay you can guess all you want. You're still dumb.
@AfroDeezeeYak It is what it is. All art comes from somewhere, an interpretation usually from within the artist because of experiences, emotions, observations, from the consciousness & subconsciousness expressed outwardly, sometimes raw & transparent. We hear sounds everyday so we've learned to associate sounds with events. As I've said; it is what it is. If the title bothers you THAT MUCH, maybe you should call it something else. . .then. . you should go have a session with a shrink.
@deecee10000 I never said the title bothered me: I said that this piece was originally created to convey no program -especially one having to do with mass death. Your inability to part ways with the idea that the piece was undoubtedly "conceived to cause a strong emotional response" is just a testament to my saying that you are someone who can't disassociate dissonance with terror.
@AfroDeezeeYak Trust me, a good artist KNOWS how to invoke a good, strong emotional response. And though you continue to deny it, it's very obvious you DO have a problem with the title and seem to be bordering on obsession about it. Go seek professional help.
@deecee10000 How am I obsessing about the title? I'm simply correcting a fallacious statement. You seem to have an obsession with your misconception that I am extremely displeased with the title. Go seek professional help.
@deecee10000 I think I will opt to not trust you on what a 'good' artist does and doesn't do. You hear music in black and white. Everything must be 'happy' or 'sad' for you.
Hopefully, one day you will cast aside your bias and enthusiasm to prevent self-awareness and see where music has ended up. Until then: keep listening to your 'butterflies flying in the spring time" music and living in cave.
@AfroDeezeeYak I know it's pretty sad that anyone is actually responding to your comments. I'm doing some work on my computer so responding is just a click away for me. This little "conversation" you've had with me is the first step. The next step for you will be to look for a good shrink you can visit on a regular basis. I've tried to help you as much as I could; the rest is up to you. . .now I need to return to reality and finish up some work. C'ya.
@deecee10000 ....And you continue to persist with the trolling. The 'troll' trait is hereditary. Your being the least attractive mate possible to procreate with is the first step to the future decline of the future troll population.
@deecee10000 And LOL so predictable that you came to know this piece because of Aphex Twins' cover. Let me guess: you prefer their cover over the original?
@love2laugh36 Well as I've said before, you can try to "feel" or imagine fluttering butterflies on a beautiful spring day & nice breeze while listening to this music. . . but for the average listener, this piece goes extraordinarily well with the given title. Now go fuck yourself.
@love2laugh36 Maybe you should change the title. . . .since you seem to believe in your little mind that you're the expert on titles. Maybe you should call it "Generic Music for Horrific Instances". Is that better? Hahaha! Yes, I'm laughing at you. You're making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
@AfroDeezeeYak While I'm sure the average listener wouldn't describe this piece using the word "beautiful", I would. I see beauty in this piece. I've been an avid fan of all types of music since childhood. Your Aphex Twin comment was kinda crazy. Perhaps you were trying to be funny & I just didn't get it.
I don't want to discount the horror of what happened, and this is a great emotional expression of it, but people seem to think the nukes crossed some kind of moral line. They didn't. That line had been abused so much for so many years you couldn't tell where it was anymore. The incendiary bombings, the rape of Nanking, the Holocaust, the V bombs. World War 2 was fucked up. The strength of the nukes was that there was nothing you could do to stop them, not that they killed lots of people.
I respected what this work was supposed to be until I found out that it wasn't originally written for the purpose of a threnody. Now I'm disappointed.
What strikes me as odd, is that this is supposedly the work that brought Penderecki international fame. I wonder if he didn't admit to have had originally conceived this piece for a different purpose, some time after it's premiere?
i was looking for something to listen to while writing a paper and i came across this song. it scared the shit out of me, but unable to click off the horrifying music, i finished my paper from the sense of fear it created in me.
@NataliaBachtina Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, the title we know it by was only given to it AFTER it was composed. It was originally titled a time, 8 minutes something, as a tribute to John Cage. I agree with you though, it's very appropriate, but unfortunately wasn't written with the victims in mind.
This is a terribly sad song. Yes, let's honor those victims. In school we are told thatthey should have died or left their country. This honors them, the civilians who never deserved any of this.
The music is a cake compared to reality. Thousands of people are facing terrible-like situations everyday. Check out the reports by ex-soldier Etham McCord just to begin with.
@fingercrossed Victims? They we're an Enemy country at that time, whatever it takes to stop a country attacking, the US will do that. Besides, THEY STARTED IT! Karma's a bitch ain't it?
@fingercrossed Victims? They we're an Enemy country at that time, whatever it takes to stop a country attacking, the US will do that. Besides, THEY STARTED IT! Karma's a bitch ain't it?
@Mekrokan In general it's considered gauche, if not criminal, to kill thousands of civilians, even in war. I realize that the stupider sort of Americans has the idea that whole countries (including civilians) or even whole RELIGIONS can be treated as "enemy combatants," and the world as a battlefield, but this is symptomatic of post-9/11 PTSD...and regular old propaganda-influenced stupidity.
@Mekrokan PH was a military target, but that's beside the point. The bombing of Pearl Harbor was wrong too; so what? AND it was done by the warlords. The logic (such as it is) that you're employing leads places you don't want to go...but you're probably an American Exceptionalist, so no logic will probably penetrate.
@Mekrokan WOW wtf!? everyone is entitled to thier opinion.Nucular attack? overkill. This is not a childrens play ground. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO STARTED IT. That did not give the States justification for wiping out an entire country. We're all human, show some sympathy.
@fingercrossed Yeah but we told them to stop. They didn't. We gave them a little money, they still didn't stop. So, whoever was in office got pissed and decided to bomb them ONCE. They STILL didn't stop. So, we done it again. I'm gonna take a wild guess that we would have completely wiped that country off the face of the earth, had they not given up.
@Mekrokan All that I am going to say is that a country should not have to die because they stood up for what they thought was right and that what occured in Hiroshima so many years ago was truly a tragedy and the people killed in the event should be shown a bit of respect.
@fingercrossed "Standing up for what they thought was right?" I'm sorry, but when what you think is right involves killing many many people (the Holocaust) something has to be done. No one should be aloud to get away with that.
@drummrath2 ... wait. what? you need to brush up on your world history. Hiroshima had nothing to do with the holocaust. That was all Germany (you know, Hitler.) , a completely diffeent contantent let alone country. Same time frame, completely different circumstances.
@fingercrossed Japan was sided with Hitler. Ever heard of the Axis? Which means they approved of what he was doing, even if they weren't doing it themselves.
@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
@fingercrossed Not the cause, but in support of the cause. They were not at all innocent in this matter. I wasn't here, I don't know (or care) how the conversation was started. Everyone has a part in history. It doesn't matter where or when it happened, history affects all of us.
@drummrath2 i never said that they were completely innocent. Any thing that causes a massive loss of life is unfortunate weather they were guilty or not. Italy was part of Axis. Nobody seems to think they were in the wrong and besides, not everyone in Hiroshima was in support of Hitler. That was all to do with the government. And to say you don't care is just making you seem insensitive.
@Mekrokan It breaks my heart that there are actually people like you in the world. People like you who vote and, god forbid, have an impact on future society.
Whatever the fuck the leaders in Japan were doing, who they were siding with, what they were planning, that is absolutely no excuse whatsoever to brutally wipe out 30,000 innocent civilians, and if you can't see that, then wow.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now rightfully seen in America as tragic mistakes, and that's the way it should be.
@iinspectra Yeah well get used to it, people like me have are reasonable. We HAD to make sure that they stopped attacking us. Killing whatever had to be killed in order to help our allies who we're getting beat pretty bad by the other countrys. We had 2 people coming at us, the japanese, AND the Nazis. So we had to make sure one country was out.
@Mekrokan 'Wiping out' the leaders of the armies is another issue. But blasting to annihilation that many innocent civilians who had as much a part in the attack on the USA as Paris Hilton's chihuahua is completely inexcusable. Can't you see that the whole mindset of the attack was wrong? That kind of collateral damage (by the way, my previous figures were wrong - it's 90,000-166,000 in Hiroshima alone, not 30,000) is and always will be wrong.
@Mekrokan (continued) What does it say about humans as a race when we do things like this to our own species? Just think about what you're saying. One hundred thousand individual people - just think about that figure - dead. That's almost a third of the current population of the USA. Innocent people - mothers, children, working fathers. Yes, America needed to win the war, but that is in no way a justifiable answer.
@Mekrokan That's about as good an excuse as 'two bullies were giving me death threats, so I murdered 300 of one's extended family. You know, cause I have to MAKE SURE he doesn't come at me anymore.'
@Mekrokan Uh, yes, it is 'your' fault ('you' being those in charge of releasing the bomb). It is most definitely your fault; you had full knowledge of the collateral damage that would happen, and released the bomb anyway.
Also, you say 'some bystanders get caught' like a couple people were walking past a battlefield and got shot. It kinda surpasses 'some' when it's over 90,000.
Except Penderecki didn't name this piece. Someone else did so that it could be popular. Kind of like the Beethoven's The Tempest. It had nothing to do with Shakespeare.
@fingercrossed Interestingly enough, and I bet a bunch of people already said this but I'm too lazy to read through the comments to see, the title came after the piece was finished. Penderecki did not have Hiroshima in mind when he wrote the work, so the bombs and sirens and screams people hear were not specifically intended. However, it is still a work of unparalleled genius.
I remember once a concert in a church and the music was so loud I though the walls are gonna crush - some older ladies were terrified out of their wits. Fortunately Penderecki's later works are not that bizarre.
Scariest 8 and a half mins ever, just remembering all the pictures i've seen while studding this (the kind that are not allowed in your texts books) it's so.......
......................GAVE ME THE CHILLS TO THE VERY BONE.....im not one to be scared of anything but this is utterly creepy, put this in a video game or movie that you'd have to play in the dark, alone....during the night.....scariest thing you will ever play/watch
I really enjoy this work. Penderecki gets timbres from a string orchestra that no other composer has, before or since. This is Avant Gard that makes sence.
@davethehostage The generic name is "piece". If you want to get technical, Beethoven's 5th and 9th are symphonies, the "moonlight" is a sonata, and so on. A song is just a type of musical composition, generally for voice and rhythmic instruments. Penderecki's piece is a contemporary composition and as such is harder to define, though i would define it a small piece for large strings orchestra.
@themightymearns Not exactly, the vocal parts in Opera's are arias, recitatives, etc, not songs (there are few exceptions). The sung part in Beethoven's Ninth is not a song. A song can also be instrumental! Piece is a general term and it's the one that's gotta be used for music like this one. I hope i was clear :)
@JimmyCartwrightBass I was talking about the type of composition, it's not a "song". It has nothing to do with it being or not being appealing at all, in fact i love it and i love contemporary music.
you can see how this relates to the bombing of Horishima... its terrifying. you can almost hear the screams of the people who were caught in all the madness... very sad song.
i dare somebody to drop acid and listen to this
viennatime 2 days ago 2
This > Shit > Dubstep
TheAPC91 3 days ago
Is this Jonny Greenwood's nr 9?
kcmm1971 1 week ago
We were listening to this in my music appreciation class and my professor asked "What does this make you think of?" and I said "A psychotic writer going on a maniacal killing spree inside a empty hotel" He said "no." Bitch.
Wendyhasachannel 3 weeks ago 8
me too like turtles! But puppies are more awesome! :))
wexius 4 weeks ago
I saw in the white bomb cloud there's a woman's face and in the dark bomb cloud you can see the face of a devil. Cool, huh? I'm also playing this "song" with my 6th grade school orchestra. I'm a 6th grade violinist and I think this song's pretty easy.
petti712 1 month ago
@petti712 it may sound like random notes being played, but if you really listen you can pick out one player and you can hear sequenced notation....this is actually an extremely difficult piece to perform because it is written without a meter. this type of orchestration is called Dissonance and is very difficult to purposefully make it sound like this...like i said, this isn't just random notation, but in fact very organized and sequential....
DJTurkeyneck 1 month ago
@DJTurkeyneck you're lucky you get to perform a piece such as this one...
DJTurkeyneck 1 month ago
coming to this song from impressionism music, I think im officialy insane now
kvnlmn 1 month ago
I sleep like a baby when I have this on :)
0Radex 1 month ago 2
Intro (highest note) - 1st Subject (noise) - 2nd Subject (clusters) - 1st Subject - 1st to 2nd subject - Coda
The form is simple. The language is simple. The effect is amazing.
EdwardWhelanPiano 1 month ago 3
Close your eyes, and try not to open it.
F*UCKIN' IMPOSSIBLE !!
ChienlitUltime 1 month ago 2
Like the bioshock soundtrack or something
DudeImWayBetter 1 month ago 2
what i imagine is wasteland.. and radiation sickness killing people...
ichirakudreamer 1 month ago
i like turtles
DannyLimTV 1 month ago 24
@DannyLimTV do you think i can kill a turtle with my fist?
yoxredwolf 2 weeks ago
this piece wasn't intended for the victims of hiroshima, however, after he composed it, he was so moved he dedicated to them.
iheartbread2death 1 month ago 4
trent reznor on steroids.
RonaldWVaughn 1 month ago
I never thought I'll be scared of music.
MarincAndrei 2 months ago 6
what's funny is, this piece was written without a programmatic title first. it was rejected by the public because it was so strange and unnerving. penderecki only added the title after it's rejection so that people would accept the aggitated nature of the piece. he never wrote it for or intended it to be about any kind of nuclear warfare. so, joke's on y'all!!
love2laugh36 2 months ago 2
@love2laugh36 I prefer to think that this piece was not given its proper name at first. Chances are Penderecki was aiming for a strong emotional response to begin with but wasn't quite sure just how strong this piece actually was until he heard it performed. This piece is now famous and known by the current title for good reason. I suppose you could try to picture a fluttering butterfly instead of a nuclear bombing. . .but it wouldn't be the same.
deecee10000 2 months ago
@deecee10000
I believe in order to have it performed, Penderecki had to give it a title that inadvertently criticized the U.S. to get it past the censors.
mahler151 2 months ago
@deecee10000 my point is simply, there are many horrific instances in history that merit music such as this piece. this piece is pinned to a specific event by a title, nothing more. no matter what you "prefer" to think, facts are facts. just helping people get them straight. i don't know why you're talking about butterflies... kind of random...
love2laugh36 1 month ago
@love2laugh36 Don't bother: the guy is obviously one who thinks that the atonal aesthetic is collectively 'scary' or some shit because of the intervallic content.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak "Scary"? The fuck are you talking about?
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 You said this music isn't evocative of "fluttering butterflies". You said that the REVISED title for the work is "more appropriate". What you fail to realize (or accept) is that the work was originally conceived as an exploration in various textural treatment and indeterminate pitch with no intention of relaying a program.
And it is you who is making no sense whatsoever: "I feel Penderecki did this because..." okay you can guess all you want. You're still dumb.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak It is what it is. All art comes from somewhere, an interpretation usually from within the artist because of experiences, emotions, observations, from the consciousness & subconsciousness expressed outwardly, sometimes raw & transparent. We hear sounds everyday so we've learned to associate sounds with events. As I've said; it is what it is. If the title bothers you THAT MUCH, maybe you should call it something else. . .then. . you should go have a session with a shrink.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 I never said the title bothered me: I said that this piece was originally created to convey no program -especially one having to do with mass death. Your inability to part ways with the idea that the piece was undoubtedly "conceived to cause a strong emotional response" is just a testament to my saying that you are someone who can't disassociate dissonance with terror.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak Trust me, a good artist KNOWS how to invoke a good, strong emotional response. And though you continue to deny it, it's very obvious you DO have a problem with the title and seem to be bordering on obsession about it. Go seek professional help.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 How am I obsessing about the title? I'm simply correcting a fallacious statement. You seem to have an obsession with your misconception that I am extremely displeased with the title. Go seek professional help.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@deecee10000 I think I will opt to not trust you on what a 'good' artist does and doesn't do. You hear music in black and white. Everything must be 'happy' or 'sad' for you.
Hopefully, one day you will cast aside your bias and enthusiasm to prevent self-awareness and see where music has ended up. Until then: keep listening to your 'butterflies flying in the spring time" music and living in cave.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak omg. You're STILL obsessing about the title? Have you considered mental therapy? It appears that you REALLY need to be on medication.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 Haha now you're just trolling. Kind of sad that a man in his 40's has to sink this low in lieu of a valid argument..
Thank God no one is willing to procreate with you.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak I know it's pretty sad that anyone is actually responding to your comments. I'm doing some work on my computer so responding is just a click away for me. This little "conversation" you've had with me is the first step. The next step for you will be to look for a good shrink you can visit on a regular basis. I've tried to help you as much as I could; the rest is up to you. . .now I need to return to reality and finish up some work. C'ya.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 ....And you continue to persist with the trolling. The 'troll' trait is hereditary. Your being the least attractive mate possible to procreate with is the first step to the future decline of the future troll population.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@deecee10000 And LOL so predictable that you came to know this piece because of Aphex Twins' cover. Let me guess: you prefer their cover over the original?
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@love2laugh36 Well as I've said before, you can try to "feel" or imagine fluttering butterflies on a beautiful spring day & nice breeze while listening to this music. . . but for the average listener, this piece goes extraordinarily well with the given title. Now go fuck yourself.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@love2laugh36 Maybe you should change the title. . . .since you seem to believe in your little mind that you're the expert on titles. Maybe you should call it "Generic Music for Horrific Instances". Is that better? Hahaha! Yes, I'm laughing at you. You're making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
deecee10000 1 month ago
@deecee10000 I'm willing to wager $100 that you only stumbled upon this piece because of Aphex Twins' shitty cover.
AfroDeezeeYak 1 month ago
@AfroDeezeeYak While I'm sure the average listener wouldn't describe this piece using the word "beautiful", I would. I see beauty in this piece. I've been an avid fan of all types of music since childhood. Your Aphex Twin comment was kinda crazy. Perhaps you were trying to be funny & I just didn't get it.
deecee10000 1 month ago
I don't want to discount the horror of what happened, and this is a great emotional expression of it, but people seem to think the nukes crossed some kind of moral line. They didn't. That line had been abused so much for so many years you couldn't tell where it was anymore. The incendiary bombings, the rape of Nanking, the Holocaust, the V bombs. World War 2 was fucked up. The strength of the nukes was that there was nothing you could do to stop them, not that they killed lots of people.
enoughtalkhaveatyou 2 months ago
@enoughtalkhaveatyou There is no "strength" in nukes, only human weakness.
deecee10000 2 months ago 7
This is... frightening. Truly moving, but thoroughly frightening. That's a sign of a well-composed piece.
HolyDiver97595 2 months ago 7
Se oye bien!
jose1aztk 2 months ago
guitarrista de radiohead compone este lamento para la sinfonica de londres.
franciscovizcaino199 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
I think I just shat myself.
That peice is intense.
corrda1993 3 months ago
I respected what this work was supposed to be until I found out that it wasn't originally written for the purpose of a threnody. Now I'm disappointed.
xemhanort 3 months ago
@xemhanort I am as well....
What strikes me as odd, is that this is supposedly the work that brought Penderecki international fame. I wonder if he didn't admit to have had originally conceived this piece for a different purpose, some time after it's premiere?
AfroDeezeeYak 3 months ago
People always complain that 20th century music was dry and analytical and missed expressing emotions.
Well, after listening to this I can only ask you - really?
playingmusiconmars 4 months ago
fuck.
sir9integra9jr 4 months ago
i was looking for something to listen to while writing a paper and i came across this song. it scared the shit out of me, but unable to click off the horrifying music, i finished my paper from the sense of fear it created in me.
raynor3336 4 months ago
Am I like the only one that doesn't find this that creepy?
fattyJNL 4 months ago
Did anyone else hear someone screaming help?
LoganIsToxic12 4 months ago
i wonder if penderecki ever smiled
gibrandogg 4 months ago 28
@gibrandogg He's still alive, no need to use smile in the past tense
Jonmad17 15 hours ago
@Jonmad17 shit, i did not know that, ignorant me, thanks
gibrandogg 2 hours ago
Usually it's "what the fuck did I just watch?!" But this...this...is what the fuck did I just LISTEN to?! Very creepy song!
Reminds me of the first time I saw the Dead Hand in OoT...
Nordic1337 4 months ago
@Nordic1337 those things are fucking creepy man, now I'm expecting to see hands coming out of the ground at Hiroshima
GregTehGoose 4 months ago
shhuuut up and just listen
Gregorioledesma 4 months ago
Some parts are on the serie "LOST" O.o
Nekoma42 4 months ago
I'm sitting in my room with the lights off and my closet door is slightly ajar, and this is playing.
Dear God.
iinspectra 5 months ago
you can really feel the fear of the victims, there were more then than at 9/11 ....... :/
NataliaBachtina 5 months ago
@NataliaBachtina Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, the title we know it by was only given to it AFTER it was composed. It was originally titled a time, 8 minutes something, as a tribute to John Cage. I agree with you though, it's very appropriate, but unfortunately wasn't written with the victims in mind.
LiveByFoma1 5 months ago
boo scary ghost
47smithstreetseries 5 months ago
This is a terribly sad song. Yes, let's honor those victims. In school we are told thatthey should have died or left their country. This honors them, the civilians who never deserved any of this.
zsleepyrockerz 5 months ago
Great and movin' !
Thanks
123must 5 months ago
I listened to this on full blast in honor of the victims of Hiroshima.
CoolGuy62093 5 months ago
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yeahyeahyaha2 5 months ago
The music is a cake compared to reality. Thousands of people are facing terrible-like situations everyday. Check out the reports by ex-soldier Etham McCord just to begin with.
carambola08 5 months ago
unlike reading about hiroshima in a text book or article, this piece makes you feel the horror the victms went through
you can almost hear the bombs whistling and the sirens blaring and a mothers screams as she watches her children blown away...
the composer is truly a master
fingercrossed 5 months ago 21
@fingercrossed Victims? They we're an Enemy country at that time, whatever it takes to stop a country attacking, the US will do that. Besides, THEY STARTED IT! Karma's a bitch ain't it?
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@fingercrossed Victims? They we're an Enemy country at that time, whatever it takes to stop a country attacking, the US will do that. Besides, THEY STARTED IT! Karma's a bitch ain't it?
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan In general it's considered gauche, if not criminal, to kill thousands of civilians, even in war. I realize that the stupider sort of Americans has the idea that whole countries (including civilians) or even whole RELIGIONS can be treated as "enemy combatants," and the world as a battlefield, but this is symptomatic of post-9/11 PTSD...and regular old propaganda-influenced stupidity.
criostoir59 5 months ago
@criostoir59 Yeah, they bombed Pearl Harbor, we wasn't doing anything to them, there MAY have been Civies there too.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan PH was a military target, but that's beside the point. The bombing of Pearl Harbor was wrong too; so what? AND it was done by the warlords. The logic (such as it is) that you're employing leads places you don't want to go...but you're probably an American Exceptionalist, so no logic will probably penetrate.
criostoir59 5 months ago
@Mekrokan WOW wtf!? everyone is entitled to thier opinion.Nucular attack? overkill. This is not a childrens play ground. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO STARTED IT. That did not give the States justification for wiping out an entire country. We're all human, show some sympathy.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@fingercrossed Yeah but we told them to stop. They didn't. We gave them a little money, they still didn't stop. So, whoever was in office got pissed and decided to bomb them ONCE. They STILL didn't stop. So, we done it again. I'm gonna take a wild guess that we would have completely wiped that country off the face of the earth, had they not given up.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan All that I am going to say is that a country should not have to die because they stood up for what they thought was right and that what occured in Hiroshima so many years ago was truly a tragedy and the people killed in the event should be shown a bit of respect.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@fingercrossed "Standing up for what they thought was right?" I'm sorry, but when what you think is right involves killing many many people (the Holocaust) something has to be done. No one should be aloud to get away with that.
drummrath2 5 months ago
@drummrath2 ... wait. what? you need to brush up on your world history. Hiroshima had nothing to do with the holocaust. That was all Germany (you know, Hitler.) , a completely diffeent contantent let alone country. Same time frame, completely different circumstances.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@fingercrossed Japan was sided with Hitler. Ever heard of the Axis? Which means they approved of what he was doing, even if they weren't doing it themselves.
drummrath2 5 months ago
@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
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@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@drummrath2 even still they were not the cause of all the lives taken. and lets just remember, this conversation was started because i voiced my opinion of the song NOT the occurence the song was written about. I am 16 years old and live in Canada. I have nothing to do with what took place so many years ago.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@fingercrossed Not the cause, but in support of the cause. They were not at all innocent in this matter. I wasn't here, I don't know (or care) how the conversation was started. Everyone has a part in history. It doesn't matter where or when it happened, history affects all of us.
drummrath2 5 months ago
@drummrath2 i never said that they were completely innocent. Any thing that causes a massive loss of life is unfortunate weather they were guilty or not. Italy was part of Axis. Nobody seems to think they were in the wrong and besides, not everyone in Hiroshima was in support of Hitler. That was all to do with the government. And to say you don't care is just making you seem insensitive.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@Mekrokan It breaks my heart that there are actually people like you in the world. People like you who vote and, god forbid, have an impact on future society.
Whatever the fuck the leaders in Japan were doing, who they were siding with, what they were planning, that is absolutely no excuse whatsoever to brutally wipe out 30,000 innocent civilians, and if you can't see that, then wow.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now rightfully seen in America as tragic mistakes, and that's the way it should be.
iinspectra 5 months ago
@iinspectra Yeah well get used to it, people like me have are reasonable. We HAD to make sure that they stopped attacking us. Killing whatever had to be killed in order to help our allies who we're getting beat pretty bad by the other countrys. We had 2 people coming at us, the japanese, AND the Nazis. So we had to make sure one country was out.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan 'Wiping out' the leaders of the armies is another issue. But blasting to annihilation that many innocent civilians who had as much a part in the attack on the USA as Paris Hilton's chihuahua is completely inexcusable. Can't you see that the whole mindset of the attack was wrong? That kind of collateral damage (by the way, my previous figures were wrong - it's 90,000-166,000 in Hiroshima alone, not 30,000) is and always will be wrong.
iinspectra 5 months ago
@Mekrokan (continued) What does it say about humans as a race when we do things like this to our own species? Just think about what you're saying. One hundred thousand individual people - just think about that figure - dead. That's almost a third of the current population of the USA. Innocent people - mothers, children, working fathers. Yes, America needed to win the war, but that is in no way a justifiable answer.
iinspectra 5 months ago
@iinspectra Like I said, we had TWO countrys coming at our asses! We had to MAKE SURE they didn't come at us anymore.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan That's about as good an excuse as 'two bullies were giving me death threats, so I murdered 300 of one's extended family. You know, cause I have to MAKE SURE he doesn't come at me anymore.'
iinspectra 5 months ago
@iinspectra Seems logical.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@iinspectra WHOOPS I thought I was talking to Cleverbot...sorry about that!
But anyway Yeah, A nuclear bomb is a big bomb, It's not our fault if some bystanders get caught in it's radius.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@Mekrokan Uh, yes, it is 'your' fault ('you' being those in charge of releasing the bomb). It is most definitely your fault; you had full knowledge of the collateral damage that would happen, and released the bomb anyway.
Also, you say 'some bystanders get caught' like a couple people were walking past a battlefield and got shot. It kinda surpasses 'some' when it's over 90,000.
iinspectra 5 months ago
@iinspectra Wel lthey shoudn't have attacked us in the first place. Then none of this would have happened.
Mekrokan 5 months ago
@iinspectra 100k is a big figure but the population of the US is around 300 million. just clarifying. it's still an appalling act!
8run0n 4 months ago
@8run0n Oh, whoops. Thanks, my bad, although as you said, the point does still stand.
iinspectra 4 months ago
@fingercrossed
Correction: Bomb
kanjiguy106 4 months ago
@fingercrossed
Except Penderecki didn't name this piece. Someone else did so that it could be popular. Kind of like the Beethoven's The Tempest. It had nothing to do with Shakespeare.
utley72 4 months ago
@fingercrossed
You make this horror in Japan, bastard yankee.
leonelbat 3 months ago
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christophbell2 3 months ago
@fingercrossed how could the mother scream? There would no one left to even experience the tremendous power of a fission reaction!
ectomy1235 2 months ago
@fingercrossed Interestingly enough, and I bet a bunch of people already said this but I'm too lazy to read through the comments to see, the title came after the piece was finished. Penderecki did not have Hiroshima in mind when he wrote the work, so the bombs and sirens and screams people hear were not specifically intended. However, it is still a work of unparalleled genius.
elliedwa 1 month ago
listened to this composition in music class today and scared the grade 9's in the halls.
fingercrossed 5 months ago
@Rayman120 Al-Qaeda is The MIXTURE of Mossad+CIA+MI6+RAW
xmen269 5 months ago
Who says chamber music can't be blacker than the blackest black, times infinity?
DropPodFullOfPonies 6 months ago
My band director used to put kids in practice rooms with headphones and have them listen to this on loop for 30 minutes as detention.
AbbyITMS 6 months ago 52
@AbbyITMS wow! great detention!
deandusk 5 months ago
@AbbyITMS Your band director is a dickhead. Regardless of the oddness in his music; to listen to Panderecki should be a reward, not a punishment
yeahyeahyaha2 5 months ago
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CoolGuy62093 5 months ago
It's freaking terrific.
I remember once a concert in a church and the music was so loud I though the walls are gonna crush - some older ladies were terrified out of their wits. Fortunately Penderecki's later works are not that bizarre.
pawsoned 6 months ago
Beautiful music. Very deep and revealing of the horrors of human nature.
phantomfn8 6 months ago
holy shit this is amazing but soooo damn scary.
sveniceara 6 months ago
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Better than Justin Bieber...
Maestro940304 6 months ago
come back
CBcinema1 6 months ago
Scariest 8 and a half mins ever, just remembering all the pictures i've seen while studding this (the kind that are not allowed in your texts books) it's so.......
trueartgirl 7 months ago
I take showers with this
Saint111Michael 7 months ago
The picture shown is the blast from Nagasaki, not Hiroshima.
LegionnaireXim 7 months ago
@LegionnaireXim lol i was going to say something about that ^_^
trueartgirl 7 months ago
a lot of screeching, why is it scary?
quester567 7 months ago
@quester567 yeah this music was featured in Stanley Kubrik's The Shining
2byehi 7 months ago
@quester567 because the horrific thing happen, it was real, and it can (not likely but) could happen again
trueartgirl 7 months ago
@trueartgirl hahahahah what?!
jeezuschryst 6 months ago
@quester567 ...
Redkrovy 6 months ago
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This is Al-Qaeda's national anthem.
xmen269 7 months ago
@xmen269 Noy funny.
Rayman120 5 months ago
BRUTAL
mikito812 8 months ago 3
Dead Space: 1945
Holycrudaflyingcow12 8 months ago 3
......................GAVE ME THE CHILLS TO THE VERY BONE.....im not one to be scared of anything but this is utterly creepy, put this in a video game or movie that you'd have to play in the dark, alone....during the night.....scariest thing you will ever play/watch
zauzakeking 8 months ago
Asides from hiroshima bombing, made me imagine dante's inferno aka hell....
ChevalierAeon 8 months ago
Remind me of Dead Space
SekretZdzicha 8 months ago
To those who say this is a song:
In the academic world of music, "song" has a very specific meaning that is different from the one used outside of academia.
So, technically, this is not a song in those terms.
samsathebug 8 months ago
I should also add that it is really a pointless debate whether to call this a "song" or not. People know what you mean and that's what's important.
samsathebug 8 months ago
OMG this is genius!
zloyupier 8 months ago
try listening to this in the middle of the night, alone.
VirizionX 8 months ago
shit is a damn song deal with it. it's a damn good song too
Zedzilla 9 months ago
this song scared my dog
Accumen26 9 months ago
I wanna cry.... in fear... and terror... in a good way?
EvilPanda1988 9 months ago
superbe morceau , je ne connaissais pas !!!!!! c'est juste magnifique
frfremont 10 months ago
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rgliszin 10 months ago
listen to black angels
BASSHEAD89030 10 months ago
This piece gives me chills
igotahighdea 10 months ago
the beginning was scary... and the ending.
XpianoxboyX 10 months ago
I really enjoy this work. Penderecki gets timbres from a string orchestra that no other composer has, before or since. This is Avant Gard that makes sence.
VocMusTcrMaloy 11 months ago
I really enjoy Penderecki's use of a string orchestra. "Threnody" gets timbres out of strings that no other composition
VocMusTcrMaloy 11 months ago
hey amigo muy bueno gracias
bulltaladro 11 months ago
4 ppl have no emotions
skizotypeofficial 11 months ago
Please, stop calling this a "song". Stop calling everything a "song". Google what "song" means. Gosh it's irritating.
Protozooelf 11 months ago
@Protozooelf What would you call it?
davethehostage 11 months ago
@davethehostage The generic name is "piece". If you want to get technical, Beethoven's 5th and 9th are symphonies, the "moonlight" is a sonata, and so on. A song is just a type of musical composition, generally for voice and rhythmic instruments. Penderecki's piece is a contemporary composition and as such is harder to define, though i would define it a small piece for large strings orchestra.
Protozooelf 11 months ago
@Protozooelf Song = Sung by a voice
Piece = Instrumental
Easy. :)
themightymearns 8 months ago
@themightymearns Not exactly, the vocal parts in Opera's are arias, recitatives, etc, not songs (there are few exceptions). The sung part in Beethoven's Ninth is not a song. A song can also be instrumental! Piece is a general term and it's the one that's gotta be used for music like this one. I hope i was clear :)
Protozooelf 8 months ago 2
@Protozooelf song song song song song u mad?
joshman94 11 months ago
@joshman94 that's like calling a tuba a violin...
npelletier89 6 months ago
@Protozooelf This is music, and this is a song. There is nothing that says that music has to be appealing.
JimmyCartwrightBass 9 months ago
@JimmyCartwrightBass I was talking about the type of composition, it's not a "song". It has nothing to do with it being or not being appealing at all, in fact i love it and i love contemporary music.
Protozooelf 8 months ago
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superfroman 11 months ago
This is literally the scariest shit I have ever heard, but somehow, I mean that in a good way.
connorross123 11 months ago 11
@connorross123 Well yeah, of course. In what way is 'scary' ever synonymous with bad?
iinspectra 5 months ago
you can see how this relates to the bombing of Horishima... its terrifying. you can almost hear the screams of the people who were caught in all the madness... very sad song.
jakey912 1 year ago 2
Sounds chaotic, confusing, scary, intense....Is There even a rhythm?
plus this isnt really a song where you could dance on it Imagine a guy who's pop&locking on this one :P
FunKCX 1 year ago
Fractalic !
jafigueroa41 1 year ago
Oh, que impresionante!
...veo hiroshima al escucharlo,
ufff
muy bueno, escalofriante!
yoelaquel 1 year ago
This requiem scared me, scares me, and will always scare me! *SCARED*
19LisaMS92 1 year ago
I just hope I won't see a psychopath in my window while listening to it
feiryfairy 1 year ago
This music (or something else by Penderecki that sounds very similar) was used in the movie "The Shining." Very eerie music.
fhood 1 year ago
@fhood search for "Polymorphy - Penderecki" :)
apaboy50 1 year ago
me encanta
MrArdelco1970 1 year ago
Its sounds like souls being ripped out of bodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bubbie3000 1 year ago