Huge Cracks Found in Arctic Ice Shelves (May 23, 2008)

[Bullshitmonkey]

I love how over the last few years everyone's become an expert on this. No one really knows, every projection is made on theory and no one actually has presented real evidence to prove anything.

If all you people who think it's carbon dioxide causing the problem were so serious, you'd boycott anything to do with oil but yet here you are so STFU and make up your own mind. Use a bit of reason and don't listen to the retard who couldn't even beat George Bush in an election.

[starrdreams]

Very simple - CO2 problem touches too much private interests.

[popupwool]

Between 00:50 and 01:03...Ask yourself why the northpole is covered.  Then check out "AGARTHA".

[hahajohnnyb]

You do not know what you are talking about. You are repeating what you have been told. what you have been told is incorrect.

Global Warming stopped in 1998, 2008 is set to be the coolest year since 2000.

Quit falling for the lies and propaganda sold to you by the controlled media and the NWO government schools. Almost everything they tell you is a lie, don't buy any of it.

[rdillon7872]

Socialist agenda. Ice burgs have been navigational problems for thousands of years. You people would bitch if the world were too cold also. NWO go euro yeah

[TheLastNail]

Just tell me which of these three statements is wrong:

1) CO2 returns a greater amount of infrared back to earth than Nitrogen-the main gas of the atmoshpere.

2) CO2 is a stable compound the will remain the the atmoshpere until an active entity such as vegitation removes it.

3) We are producing an increasing amount of it every day.

4) Hyper-cons already know everything and cannot possibly learn any more.

[hahajohnnyb]

What Global Warming? May 2008 was the coldest May in 20 years. Jesus, its shocking how easily people are duped into this chicken little BS.

[starrdreams]

hahajohnnyb - global warming means long term climate changes, not a month and not even a year or a few years.

[hahajohnnyb]

Can AGW be falsified then? Is there any information that can disprove Global Warming? If so what would disprove Global Warming? If AGW hypothesis cannot be disproved, then it is not science but a religion. Given that Global Temperature is the same today as it was 30 years ago disproves the hypothesis that CO2 is the primary driver of climate change, and everything that we have been observing is the result of natural fluctuations, not something caused by man.

[sergejsh]

If you very want you can find information to disprove anything.

[dillikins]

And shocking how in-denial some people are...

[hahajohnnyb]

For a theory to be a valid theory, there has to be some way to falsify it. Not Disprove it, but show that it is false. Seems to me that everything proves global warming even a decade long cooling trend. Ice packs are thicker this year than last year, even though the eco greeks were crying that they were going to melt entirely as late as this spring. The folks who are in denial are the dorks who still believe AGW, which Lord Monkton has recently shown to be false.

[starrdreams]

hahajohnnyb - it the same. If yuo want you can falsify everything.

But you can't do that with people who knows the stuff. So try to tell to such researchers your point of view and publish here their answers. Would be interesting to know.

[Arsenic916]

global warming causes extreme weather, not just heat. explain the increase in hurricane activity the last 5 years

[hahajohnnyb]

a. the Globe is not currently warming, and has not been warming for 10 years.

b. What increase in hurricane activity?

c. What makes you think that the warming in the 1990s was out of the ordinary, why do humans have to be the cause, and why did it stop?

Extreme weather has always existed, global mass media make us more aware of events around the globe which causes a perception of increased frequency of extremes, but there has been no actual increase.

[arryhuk]

Scary stuff,where are we going?

On a voyage of true discovery maybe?

[goose1077]

This is stupid. Ice always cracks. Always.

[starrdreams]

goose1077 - these news says:

- Arctic ice shelves becoming unstable and

- scientists stunned how rapidly Arctic ice breaking up

and article says:

"Mueller said he and the other scientists on the trip found that the permanent ice shelves are breaking off or cracking at an alarming rate, due in part to climate change and global warming."

see link in description ->>

[goose1077]

Becoming unstable? Ice shelves by definition ARE undstable.

[starrdreams]

goose1077 - it looks like in this case it becoming unstable faster than normal.

Article says:

"Mueller said he and the other scientists on the trip found that the permanent ice shelves are breaking off or cracking at an alarming rate"

"... some ice shelves have so many cracks that the Rangers who were helping them could not count them all."

"The pack ice is also receding as well, so we have all of these indicators of climate change that are happening at once."

[goose1077]

So why use the deceptive language? Why not just tell the story straight up?

[starrdreams]

Where is deceptive language? For me, for example, everything is clear. I even explained to you what was not clear for you.

[goose1077]

They are making like a crack isn't normal.

[starrdreams]

goose1077 - depends how many and how fast in particular span of time.

[goose1077]

They don't explain any of that in the video. The lay person will think any crack is bad. This is missleading. The reality is Ice always has huge cracks in it. It's where lots of people die on mountain climbs. If the truth isn't scary enough to get peoples attention that doesn't mean you should lie about it, and leading people to believe something that isn't true is a lie--even if you didn't say anything false.

[starrdreams]

goose1077 - this video says enough. Also there are links in description. If you want to know more you can find by yourself.

And you can't control which lay person thinks what or believes in what.

[goose1077]

sure you can.  You could explain that huge cracks are normal.

[sergejsh]

And you can explain that these huge cracks are not so normal.

[starrdreams]

More info check in description ->>