Don't you just love double standards... You're driving a modern vehicle at 70 MPH on an open road and that's considered speeding. If you're caught, you're ticketed & fined and everyone (heads shaking) looks at you like your "dangerous". The engineer, on the other hand, is operating a 65 year old mega ton, obsolete technologied vehicle at 70MPH which if ever derailed, could wipe out a town... yet he's "Highballing", is considered "a hero" & is slapped on the back if he breaks a speed record.
America always built the best & most beautiful loco's. Russia the same with tanks, and Germany produced the best losers of war.. Its interesting how cultures have their unique traits & differences.
Even though I'm a Pennsy fan, I have to admit, the UP had some fantastic steam locomotives! I'm so glad that they're still in action. They have real personality.
@opensourcethong I agree with you except for the 9F being a 2-10-0 they do look alot alike I hope to see a 9F when I go over thre to the UK in April for the Great Britten 4 steam trip I know we will leave Kings Cross with a A4 class named the Bittern
It's amazing how sturdily these things were built out of forged and machined iron and steel. The mechanical genius that went into perfecting steam locomotives is amazing as well. The speed of the piston and driving rod is hynotic...it seems impossible for something that large and heavy to move so fast flawlessly and endlessly without flying apart.
Wonderful video, Skip! Love the action there out of the rods that you caught at speed. Keep on filming her magesty - she's the best. You gonna be doing any filming on her April trip to TX?
Yeah that certainly is right. I'm going to be catching her on the way home when she's on display in KC on the 26th then doing some chasing west, probably back to North Platte. I'm really looking forward to the trip.
@HorsegirlJenny I waited over 5 hours for the late 844 to pass through my hometown down here in Texas in Aprl but it was worth it seeing 844 down here was impressive I have been caught by accident by 3985 before without my camra at a rural grade crossing here I did not know it was passing through town I was on my way to my field no camra I did however with 844 very impressive site to see especilly climbing out of Denton Texas up a big hill talk about smoke and wonderfull sound
ive never heard that term in all my railroading career a big boy in a union pacific locomotive and has not been ran for over 40 years this is the largest runing steam locomotive in the world
Hold on just a minute. I know thats for sure not true. Speed was part of the concept when designing big boys. Big boys have gone well over 60 at least
the big boys where ment to drag long trains over shermen hill they rarely went 40 cuss it took them over 10 miles to stop at 60 it would take way to long to stop
Big enough but not THAT big.... I mean sure 80inch drivers and the engine itself on top of that is pretty big, but it takes the engine AND tender to be even close to 100 feet.
Phenomenal! Glad to know its actual speed! Is the engineer occasionally making it burn "dirty" for photographic effect or are there times when that's simply unavoidable?
for tourist or other excursions trips such as dinner trains, wine trains, etc. However, this particular locomotive is the only one in america that is still on a active rouster, Union Pacific Railroad to be exact. All other steam locomotives are privately owned
Diesel supplies electrical power for all the lights and diner, etc. in the passenger cars. It may also help on steep grades.
Note that a steamer generates much more horsepower than a diesel once over 30-40 mph, but a diesel can start a much heavier trailing tonnage because all its weight is on driven wheels. A steamer shares its weight distribution with leading and trailing trucks. In 844's case, there are four non-driven axles carrying nearly 50 tons!
I will bet the diesel was not under traction power,just being dragged along.Used for train braking assistance and perhaps train heating as sometimes in Britain.I am just surmising it to be so.However UP844 is "Bloody Good" as I have said before on other comments .I watch her every day.
YEah, and here, as in the case with the 261, 700 and 4449, they are required on many large Class 1 railroads as insurance in case something happens to the steamer rendering it unable to pull the train. Many of the main lines are busy enough as is and can barely fit the steam excursions into their schedule, so the last thing they want is to be tied up further if the train were to get stuck for some reason.
Of course that is what happens here in the UK.If the steamer is using a lesser or secondary route the steamer usually works alone.If however on mainline A diesel is in tow in case of emergency and braking assist,train heating.Enjoy 261,3985 and 4449.However 844 is the LADY, the Belle of the Ball.
According to a crew member on the 844, the UP has absolute faith in both the 844 and the 3985. when they are run with diesels in the consist, it is for dynamic braking, NOT protection power. I have seen both the 844 and the 3985 here in Oregon, a LONG way from their home in Cheyenne, running unassisted, as they should be. In 1996(IIRC) on Archer hill, it was the 844 to the rescue, behind a freight stalled on the hill with a crapped out diesel. 844 did pusher duty, and cleared up the mainline.
Actually, they have four times the tractive effort of the average individual diesel locomotive on our railroads, and six times the tractive effort of an SD40. This is why you see a lot of freight trains having more than two diesels hooked up to it.
They really don't need any braking assistance. Those cars can stop on a dime! I had the opportunity to be the conductor on a presidents special when I worked for the UP and they can definatly come to a halt in a hurry!
they keep in tow for some dynamic braking, the vintage loco still has the go, but modern brakes are just a little better-LOL! hope that helps to explain the train set
Who designed 844? In the UK we know all locos by their CME, but I only know US locos by the constructor. If anyone could post some of 844s stats. and facts, that would be appreciated. Eg, how big is that huge grate?
Don't you just love double standards... You're driving a modern vehicle at 70 MPH on an open road and that's considered speeding. If you're caught, you're ticketed & fined and everyone (heads shaking) looks at you like your "dangerous". The engineer, on the other hand, is operating a 65 year old mega ton, obsolete technologied vehicle at 70MPH which if ever derailed, could wipe out a town... yet he's "Highballing", is considered "a hero" & is slapped on the back if he breaks a speed record.
briquetaverne 1 month ago
America always built the best & most beautiful loco's. Russia the same with tanks, and Germany produced the best losers of war.. Its interesting how cultures have their unique traits & differences.
hwoods01 5 months ago
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Ahh, Skip you did it again. Your stuff is the best and it never gets old.
Wonkawillie77 6 months ago
Ahh Skip you did it again. Your stuff is the best and it never gets old.
Wonkawillie77 6 months ago
Even though I'm a Pennsy fan, I have to admit, the UP had some fantastic steam locomotives! I'm so glad that they're still in action. They have real personality.
Impalamark64 6 months ago
Beautiful...Just beautiful! It's mind boggling to think of how fast that heavy steel/iron is rotating and it doesn't just fly apart.
TV843 6 months ago
Beats the socks off of those crappy hi speed rail trains.
45Machine 7 months ago
Just wish they would have double headed her with steam!
thegreg10111 8 months ago
The Centennial Behind the 844 added extra power and speed. It's awsome ! !
UPMAN2011 8 months ago
omg!! this beast looking so fucking cool !!!!!!!
atus86 8 months ago
I just wonder how much torque this steam engine has ... I love this kind of stuff pure brute force... Do we still have things like this in service?
fmflores2000 8 months ago
I just wonder how many torque that steam engine has ... Real men like this kind of stuff pure brute force...
fmflores2000 8 months ago
How much power is the DDA providing?
Jemalacane 8 months ago
@m91arc Only occasionally, usually for excursion use, but once-in-a-while, they're used to haul freight, too.
LNERMallard 9 months ago
yep it burns #5 burner fuel... I work for Searle Petroleum and had the honor of meeting Reed and the Steam Team! Great Video!
0utlaw0ilman 10 months ago
Great Video I had the honor of delivering the burner fuel that feeds this great train! thank you for the amazing footage!
0utlaw0ilman 11 months ago
The most beautiful machine ever created. :)
strangersound 11 months ago
It's attempting to go back in time. EIGHTY EIGHT MILES PER HOUR!!! CAPTAIN SHE CANT HOLD THIS FOR MUCH LONGER! NONSENSE! LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!
peepeevagi 1 year ago
Now That Is the high speed green rail America Needs Love it !!!!!!!!!!
smoorehouse1 1 year ago
From Budapest . Hungary , Europe .
bebtozoltan55 1 year ago
there is something so....majestic....about steam engines - yeah its geeky but so true lol
jippyjester 1 year ago
How hot is this!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome
PotholesInMyLawn 1 year ago
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itsmonti1 1 year ago
Awesome Steam-Powered Beast in action, with a classic Diesel as a back up. Great video.
Scioneer 1 year ago
Good shooting. A magnificent beast - greetings from Old England.
viceroytennis 1 year ago
man that is beautiful.
jshkorn 1 year ago
from that angle it looks a hell of a lot like a British Rail class 9F
opensourcethong 1 year ago
@opensourcethong I agree with you except for the 9F being a 2-10-0 they do look alot alike I hope to see a 9F when I go over thre to the UK in April for the Great Britten 4 steam trip I know we will leave Kings Cross with a A4 class named the Bittern
gaycowboy31 1 year ago
That thing is not playing around.
thetechnician22 1 year ago
It's amazing how sturdily these things were built out of forged and machined iron and steel. The mechanical genius that went into perfecting steam locomotives is amazing as well. The speed of the piston and driving rod is hynotic...it seems impossible for something that large and heavy to move so fast flawlessly and endlessly without flying apart.
CaptainCorndog9 1 year ago 3
Beautiful engine and great video, I only wish she could do it on her own without the Centennial's help.
cool45010 1 year ago
Now THAT'S the way to run a railroad!!
cmej605 1 year ago
great video
maniacmarklewin52 1 year ago
Wonderful video, Skip! Love the action there out of the rods that you caught at speed. Keep on filming her magesty - she's the best. You gonna be doing any filming on her April trip to TX?
HorsegirlJenny 2 years ago
I hear that April 2nd the smoke signals shall return to Cheyenne
SkipW 1 year ago
Yeah that certainly is right. I'm going to be catching her on the way home when she's on display in KC on the 26th then doing some chasing west, probably back to North Platte. I'm really looking forward to the trip.
HorsegirlJenny 1 year ago
@HorsegirlJenny I waited over 5 hours for the late 844 to pass through my hometown down here in Texas in Aprl but it was worth it seeing 844 down here was impressive I have been caught by accident by 3985 before without my camra at a rural grade crossing here I did not know it was passing through town I was on my way to my field no camra I did however with 844 very impressive site to see especilly climbing out of Denton Texas up a big hill talk about smoke and wonderfull sound
gaycowboy31 1 year ago
F'in great!
Let's bring 'em back.
p
strat8383 2 years ago
could any one notice how many r.p.m is it making!!
tinku6565 2 years ago
Sooooo fine looking!
SteffanLlwyd 2 years ago
is there a limit for US steamers on the mainline In the UK its 75mph
34002salisbury 2 years ago
10 miles to stop at 60mph??? More like about a mile with a tonnage train.
derail14 2 years ago
I dont mind a good UP DD40AX, but it's quite long and big to be behind a 1940's 4-8-4 Northern.
SP4449Warbaby 2 years ago
OK... What's the trailing unit????? Looks like a Centennial.
kmillard 2 years ago
That It Is good eye
SkipW 2 years ago
they always run big boys at 70mph cause those cars are ment for corporate people
Krause12689 2 years ago
big boys never went past 40mph
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
its a system order to run big boys at 70mph from cheyenne to north platte. i should know, i've run one at 70
Krause12689 2 years ago
i dont think you mean big boy this is not a big boy this is a 4-6-6-4 a big boy is 4-8-8-4 big boys never went past 40
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
big boys are a series of units, not just one
Krause12689 2 years ago
ive never heard that term in all my railroading career a big boy in a union pacific locomotive and has not been ran for over 40 years this is the largest runing steam locomotive in the world
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
oops i forgot we where watching the 844 i ment the challenger is the largest
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
@golfisgreat123 BigBoys were capable of 80mph.
SteamingLocomotive 1 year ago
Hold on just a minute. I know thats for sure not true. Speed was part of the concept when designing big boys. Big boys have gone well over 60 at least
1225dude 2 years ago
the big boys where ment to drag long trains over shermen hill they rarely went 40 cuss it took them over 10 miles to stop at 60 it would take way to long to stop
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
No, golf, it did not take them 10 miles to stop if at 60 mph.
They would gradually slow as normal and as best for the train.
Yes, they were meant for heavy tonnage athe expense of speed.
Bigger wheels, greater speed.
Smaller wheels, greater pull.
Why not show first grade crossing in the video?
Always video grade crossings in case an idiot is present. Also allows hearing the whistle.
Disappointed that steam whistles are not as loud as horns.
robertgift 2 years ago
There are no operational Big Boys currently.
kmillard 2 years ago
Im aware.
Krause12689 2 years ago
UP 3985
mustlx 2 years ago
Never shall a BigBoy steam again.
TheSteamLocomotive 2 years ago
damn those pistons look like theyre just gona fly off!
martin04409 2 years ago
Heaven on Earth , at that particular moment! in my opionion
SkipW 2 years ago
I've tried keeping up with that train until sudenly, I got a speeding ticket. this got to be the fastest train right here
sideslide23 2 years ago
Your not alone there friend
SkipW 2 years ago
that loco is hauling ass!!!
nb347 2 years ago 9
Damn right!
Califflorida 2 years ago
just incredibly imressive power and control all at once..thanks !
fordlandau 2 years ago 2
I just can't imagine, such a big engine moving that fast. all the big metal parts moving 70 mph. it's a beautiful engine and a great vid. 5 stars.
ramonnie007 2 years ago
Big enough but not THAT big.... I mean sure 80inch drivers and the engine itself on top of that is pretty big, but it takes the engine AND tender to be even close to 100 feet.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
I don't mean that, I mean, just imagine how old that engine is 50 to 60 jears old.
and still people are caring about the engine, and let it run on top speed.
so when you stand beside such an engine, you just get the feeling you're small.
ramonnie007 2 years ago
Well I'd have to agree with you lol. Steam engines are really powerful, fast for their age, and see huge when you're right up against them
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
u dont know whats "under the hood" of this thing do you, she'll go130 if you ask her
1225dude 2 years ago
back in the day she cruised at 100mph she went no faster tho up doesent know how fast it can really go
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
5*****!
megatwingo 2 years ago
wow boring.....
KyleAP38 2 years ago
Phenomenal! Glad to know its actual speed! Is the engineer occasionally making it burn "dirty" for photographic effect or are there times when that's simply unavoidable?
Larsky1010 2 years ago
Yes Guys! Let that baby run! That keeps her alive! Let it run!
SteffenReichel 2 years ago
for tourist or other excursions trips such as dinner trains, wine trains, etc. However, this particular locomotive is the only one in america that is still on a active rouster, Union Pacific Railroad to be exact. All other steam locomotives are privately owned
turnoutjim 2 years ago
Only for tourist or sightseeing special use.
robertg222 2 years ago
No train is more impressive than a steam one.
Thingamajigs 2 years ago 5
an engining marvil
xodgpc 2 years ago
i live in germany. somehow we got cooler trains :D
bazzala 2 years ago
yeah cuz its got graffiti all on em!!! :D
brainlessfilms 2 years ago
watch?v=tqPirYTXxFs
grafitti is just on regional trains.
on regional trains are as slow as the one shown in the video :D
bazzala 2 years ago
hehehe!! i ike graffiti but on clasic old trains i dont sopport it on them :)
brainlessfilms 2 years ago
yeah. some trains in germany look better with tags than without :DD
besides we have no steam locs to get tagged here in germany :D
bazzala 2 years ago
@bazzala The only way you could have cooler trains is if your air conditioners work better.
SteamingLocomotive 1 year ago
And that is not just any diesel as well - it is a Centenial DDA40X - one of only a few.
dmanlyr 2 years ago
10-4 its,The Largest Diesel Locomotive ever Built !
SkipW 2 years ago
looks like endless power!! amazing!
botokgraffiti 2 years ago
Beautiful just beautiful...is it still running?
jusgoodmusic 2 years ago
close to 5000 miles on the rails this year Thru the states of
WY, UT, NV, CA, NE, IA & CO
SkipW 2 years ago
hell on wheels........why iz it pulling a desiel?
earseyesnose 2 years ago
Diesel supplies electrical power for all the lights and diner, etc. in the passenger cars. It may also help on steep grades.
Note that a steamer generates much more horsepower than a diesel once over 30-40 mph, but a diesel can start a much heavier trailing tonnage because all its weight is on driven wheels. A steamer shares its weight distribution with leading and trailing trucks. In 844's case, there are four non-driven axles carrying nearly 50 tons!
mesenteria 2 years ago
Everybody is gonna hate on me. I like the EMD SD70ACe/SD70M-2 myself.
NSwannabeEngineer 2 years ago
no effort at all
BadMoodBlues 2 years ago
been there rode that at 60mph! Cheyenn to Greeley colorado
EMDSD90 2 years ago
eneginering masterpice
gorelord187 2 years ago 3
WOW!! Look at them drivers just SPINNING!! Amazing!
RDG484 2 years ago
Steamengines are not slow, stinky and shaky monsters.
Steamengines are fast, wel-balanced, reliable and good-looking
diesfie 2 years ago 20
but only 12% efficiant
rcfp2006 2 years ago
very good. note 1.000. The best,
you see my videos (movies) for trains?
very bom
josecarlosfarina 2 years ago
wow!!! bloody beauty....
eckyboyo 2 years ago
now you guys are REALLY screaming down the freeway
TheKevinV08 2 years ago
What a brilliant beautiful machine. Thanks for the video!
schellwardee 2 years ago 3
Intense.
norin02 2 years ago
I didn't know a piston could move that fast....5*
DeltaPhi79 3 years ago
CHARGE!
radeakins 3 years ago
DamN!
FlyBikes089 3 years ago
I will bet the diesel was not under traction power,just being dragged along.Used for train braking assistance and perhaps train heating as sometimes in Britain.I am just surmising it to be so.However UP844 is "Bloody Good" as I have said before on other comments .I watch her every day.
16BRIGADE 3 years ago
YEah, and here, as in the case with the 261, 700 and 4449, they are required on many large Class 1 railroads as insurance in case something happens to the steamer rendering it unable to pull the train. Many of the main lines are busy enough as is and can barely fit the steam excursions into their schedule, so the last thing they want is to be tied up further if the train were to get stuck for some reason.
ThatYankeeKid 3 years ago
Of course that is what happens here in the UK.If the steamer is using a lesser or secondary route the steamer usually works alone.If however on mainline A diesel is in tow in case of emergency and braking assist,train heating.Enjoy 261,3985 and 4449.However 844 is the LADY, the Belle of the Ball.
16BRIGADE 3 years ago
Hey come on, don't forget the 700!
DanielVolker 3 years ago
According to a crew member on the 844, the UP has absolute faith in both the 844 and the 3985. when they are run with diesels in the consist, it is for dynamic braking, NOT protection power. I have seen both the 844 and the 3985 here in Oregon, a LONG way from their home in Cheyenne, running unassisted, as they should be. In 1996(IIRC) on Archer hill, it was the 844 to the rescue, behind a freight stalled on the hill with a crapped out diesel. 844 did pusher duty, and cleared up the mainline.
daogrady 2 years ago
The diesel is actually there to slow her down. She is faster than those overrated A4s of yours.
3254man 3 years ago
Not to mention these 4-8-4's of ours have probably double the tractive effort!
DanielVolker 3 years ago
Actually, they have four times the tractive effort of the average individual diesel locomotive on our railroads, and six times the tractive effort of an SD40. This is why you see a lot of freight trains having more than two diesels hooked up to it.
NightmareKato 2 years ago
They really don't need any braking assistance. Those cars can stop on a dime! I had the opportunity to be the conductor on a presidents special when I worked for the UP and they can definatly come to a halt in a hurry!
MDSerles 3 years ago
...and she's probably not working hard at all. What a beautiful machine!
Superedit 3 years ago
I hate it when they use desiel helpers
3254man 3 years ago
Thats THE DDA40X you're talking about buddy. Better than a Crappy P42 that gets tackted behind the 261. Or the Dash 9 behind the 4449 or the 700.
BNSF5608 3 years ago
Steam only needs diesels for electricty for the cars, dynamic braking and extra weight to pull!
DanielVolker 3 years ago 2
The diesel is there forelectricity for the cars, dynamic braking for descending grades and some extra weight for 844 to pull!
DanielVolker 3 years ago
they keep in tow for some dynamic braking, the vintage loco still has the go, but modern brakes are just a little better-LOL! hope that helps to explain the train set
SkipW 3 years ago
was the dd40ax just along for the ride?
FGLK1702 3 years ago
American steam was the greatest. Just so fundamental and big.
SteffanLlwyd 4 years ago 3
I first saw this locomotive at the World's Fair in Spokane in 1974...what a beauty!!!
Darbkin 4 years ago 2
I guess the burners must be proportional to the grate/ boilder size though. That's going to be one hell of a flame-thrower going on in there!
SteffanLlwyd 4 years ago
Who designed 844? In the UK we know all locos by their CME, but I only know US locos by the constructor. If anyone could post some of 844s stats. and facts, that would be appreciated. Eg, how big is that huge grate?
SteffanLlwyd 5 years ago
She built by ALCO in 1944. Last steamer built for the UP.
RichardSwayne 4 years ago