this is all bull shit castro is a cia agent he was helped to be in cuba castroo is a eugenic that destroy the island the missile crisses was to steal technologie from the russuans rocket the nuclear heads were never in cuba ,this is a hollywood movie like port of tunking and like 911 like oklahoma city and you are all a sleep in a matrix castro is a new world order poppet that is being killing the cubans and hekping the illuminatis to infiltrade in all the revolutions.wake up
CIA Director Allen Dulles was on "vacation" in Peuto Rico during the BOP invasion leaving Deputy Director General Charles Cabel in charge.It was Gen Cabel that requested US air support at the last minute figuring he could pressure JFK into using US air power but JFK refused.
Ironically General Cabel's brother Earl was Mayor of Dallas on 11-22-63 which means he had total control of Dallas Police and JFK's motorcade route.
If u think about it this way, kennedy was not dumb what if he used the cubans at the bay itself as a distraction while a special forces team went in to take out fidel? But it didnt work obiously.
@northmemphis48 Fidel quit smoking in the 1980s, partly for health reasons and partly to defy Cubas ill founded reputation as an island of cigar smokers.
Most of them were ruthless killers, just ask the hundreds of civilians including women and children who were massacred by these savages. And yes, they did it for money and the power they would get after winning.
CORECTION: The Cuban soldiers left to fight alone in Cuba NEVER SURRENDERED! There were CAPTURED by Fidel's Army after US support promised to these soldiers never showed up- My uncle was one of the many brave me who fought in The Bay of Pigs- After his release, he proudly served in the US Navy.
They were not MERCENARIES, they were doctors, lawyers, teachers, and everyday men. Many of them were as young as 17. They were fighting for a free cuba, not for money. JFK turn his back on these brave cubans, and thet will never forgive him.
@Alejoperal i believe it was a mix. some were mercenaries and some were anti-communist cubans who wanted Castro out. But obvisouly, everyone knew that it would fail. But i believe it was worth a shot. 200 communist killed and 4,000 wounded. Small impact on Castro but these numbers are better than 0. But i do believe these cuban rebels should of been granted citizenship on their behalf, maybe even the mercenaries too.
@m1grand70 All of them are American citizens. the ones that survived beig in prison for two years went to Fort benning to become special forces and officers in the U.S army. one of my teachers in high school is a bay og pig veteran, Vietnam and Desert storm veteran. He became a u.S Ranger after being release from the P.O.W camps. He is a retire Lt.Colonel. I'm sorry but it was not mix, they were all cuban exile, hell bent on killing as many communist they can, to retrive their country back
I believe this is just one of the factors leading to JFK's assassination. The CIA, was to be "broken in a thousand pieces" well Dulles&Co didn't agree and I believe they pulled it off. After that LBJ signed the order for Vietnam, and the Defense Establishment had their war. This operation was DOOMED from the gitty up. Without US support it would fail. The CIA went and did it anyway, with JFK's approval. Not nearly as bad as Dubya's "Iraqi WMD"...wat a cruel fucking joke. The rich get richer..
This is smut! Gee? you think this is pro CIA? Eisenhower and the CIA were working on this for so long and then JFK came in and messed it up. So, they did what any blood thirsty murderer would do. They fucking killed him.
Goodwin is clearly bias... his comment about Kennedy is totally beside the point... not to mention that the bay of pigs was a Nixon Dulles plan... Goodwin is a total know nothing tool...
CIA mouthpiece Mel Goodwin really needs to put in his bias that Kennedy is ``overated I might add``which is totally besides the point and then twist history. Jfk fired Dulles, Bissell, and Cabel because they were working surreptitiously behind his back. Dulles is quoted as saying, to paraphrase, ``with the operation already in full swing we imagined that the sanctioning of air support would be a necessity.``He honourably took the blame publicly.
@wunderdoggy He couldn`t sanction air support as this was tantamount to a declaration of war on a sovereign nation. There was no way to imagine the anti-Castro cubans rustling up some airplanes.
my grandfathers brother was in the bay of pigs. He was improsined by Castro and his thugs for over 3 years. to this day, he does not speak of what happened while he was in prison. to this day, he speaks of JFK like one would do as a rat. I do not blame him.
@roberts11000 Well for example US government supported Augusto Pinochet in Chile who killed very many of his own people, criminal dictators of Haiti and others just because they were anti communists. And americans were doing just the same in other places what soviets tried to do, placing missiles to attack SU.
@Pvjinflight Are you this stupid? We placed missiles in the event of a Nuclear war. If they fired at us. They know that we are close and we will fire back.
Do you not have any clue on how nuclear war works. It also gave US an advantage to throw it in their face that if they wanted to nuke us. They are fucked because we are right next to them and they will not make it out.
@shadowhunter388 " Are you this stupid? We placed missiles in the event of a Nuclear war. If they fired at us. They know that we are close and we will fire back." And thats what soviets tried, so if you nuke them they could nuke back?
@anigma68 yes we did let a communist nation reign only 90 miles away from miami during a war we were suppost to fight with communism but look at the shithole it is now and look at how the US has transpired since those days and how they havent and we are the dumb ones? the reason cuba is so poor this day is because of us so i guess you could say we slowly destroyed cubas communist monarchy reign over the island without the need for major conflict. if you dont like the US feel free to leave kid.
And why was Castro so keen on invading Panama, Dominican Republic, trying to overthrow the democratically elected government in Venezuela, and Nuking the USA? Boo hoo, the CIA tried to overthrow him. Should have finished him off right then and there when we had the chance. Viva la Brigada Asolto 2516! Muerto a Fidel y Che!
the hole reason that they were going to invade is because there were over 2 hundred war heads if (cubian missle crisis) if u dont belive me look up the fog of war it about rober s. mcnamara and there is some stuff about bay of the pigs in there.
The BOP invasion plan WAS inherited from Eisenhower but executed under Kennedy in a way that it not only wouldn't succeed but would be the worst kind of disaster. The guy in the video said the exiles couldn't fight. Maybe that's true but the plan, delivery and support given them was U.S.A made garbage.
@anigma68 Ha we don't even have to do anything. Castro admitted that communism hasn't worked. If we are so stupid then why are Cuban refugees so determined to get here? Are they running away from their smart government? How about their free healhcare that they have to wait for months to get? If we wanted Cuba gone, we could get it done with the push of a button.
@sgtSqeegee119 Because they are poor coz of your illegal embargo. Healthcare system in Cuba is much better than in USA, and Cuba has longer newborn life expectancy than USA and any other caribbean island state, but people still want money and luxury that is nto that important, and thats why they go to USA. Different thing is how many of them find it there.
@Pvjinflight Yep, people are lining up for that great healthcare. Waiting for weeks to see a doctor. You won't see people traveling there for surgeries anytime soon.
@Pvjinflight This has to be the most stupidest fucking unintelligent statement I ever read.
You're right, Cuba is so quality that you still can't spell for shit. Also, a embargo is a treaty and it is no way illegal. On a side note: Your GDP speaks for itself. I mean damn, even Haiti has a stronger GDP it seems. In a hospital to see a doctor in USA it takes 3 minutes. In Cuba it takes 1 week. In USA I can make a living. In Communist Cuba, I am dirt poor and I work in a labor camp. Get real.
@shadowhunter388 Im not cuban, but doesnt very high life expectancy of Cuba tell something, its same that is in USA and way better than in Haiti? Its the best way see how healthy people are, not GDP. If seeing a doctor really takes so long how they can be still very healthy?
Your embargo is useless and illegal, UN is against it.
Cubans are poor because of United States embargo, not because of their government.
Anyway I wanna travel to that american free paradise.
@Pvjinflight Actually, Cubans might have okay health but I doubt its any better then ours. If so can you show me your source of information.
UN can go fuck itself. If it thinks that letting a nation give the okay to let another nation put nukes on its soil to blow the shit out of a country nearby is okay then they are on some serious drugs.
Yes the embargo has a major impact but it's government also shares part.
You also just admitted Cuban is poor so I seriously doubt health care is good.
@shadowhunter388 Well at least their life expectancy number is same that is in USA, and that is from reliable source. And its free for evryone. Come on, Cuban crisis were over 50 years ago, no one is putting nukes near you and Soviet Union is collapsed. It seems that some americans live too much in history and fear communism, and you were putting nukes too near Soviet Union.
And fear of communism, thats the reason for big war crimes Korea and Vietnam where US troops killed innocent civilians.
@Pvjinflight Bullshit. Average dumbass that would say something like this. Yet I see you haven't provided me a source. Cuba fucked up. It's there fault. We are not scared. If we were scared then we wouldn't be a superpower. War Crimes though is one big laugh. Tell me. What country do you come from because I am sure as hell your country has a shit load of history.
@Rio797 Pretty good living conditions and healthcare and things like that, but of course thats just because of high taxes... So really nothing at all.
@Pvjinflight Tell that BS to the South Koreans if US should not intervene to help them. US had one incident. If you look at Korean war history, the vast majority of civilians are killed by Korean troops from both sides. The US presence is there now in order to protect SK from NK as part of the 1953 mutual defense treaty. All was it due to the fact Korean war is not officially over, it ended in a ceasefire agreement, not a peace treaty. NK is against the UN, not just the US.
@Hperman09 Im not defending NK. Anyway in Vietnam war american soldiers killed civilians on purpose, in My Lai they murdered whole village of civilians, none of them had weapons or anything.
@Pvjinflight The US never had intentional of killing civilians. Sure Cally and his men killed few does not make them as a whole bad. Any intentional of killing civilians will result of going to jail. The Communist killed millions, cut off arms that had received shots, kill people who sided with the US. If you're talking about US atrocities, how about you talk about VC crimes as well. The hue massacre was carried out by the VC and NVA and the casualties rate is about the same as 9/11 attack.
@Hperman09 In My Lai US soldiers killed 347–504 unarmed civilians (mostly women and children), there was no soldiers inside that village, and US troops shot everyone inside that village. Many of the victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated. While 26 U.S. soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at My Lai, only William Calley was convicted. So most of them didnt get even time in jail.
@Pvjinflight Only because William Calley was a commander and ordered their soldiers to do so they are do as they are told. Japanese soldiers did not get convicted either for nanking or massacre in USSR because they were followering orders by their commanders as well. Were US soldier angels? Hell no! But are they're the same level as the VC? No way. VC get away with everything with their crimes and it's ok for them to do it? And it's not make-up it's a fact.
@Hperman09 And this is not propaganda, just historical fact.
Castro is real hero just because he didnt let imperialistic criminals to fuck his country like they did in Vietnam. Like i was saying USA was not any better than communists.
I think the Bay of Pigs was a distraction. The CIA isn't stupid. They wanted Castro dead, easiest way to do it was to kill him. The Invasion was a distraction to send an SOG team to kill Castro. (You might say I got this from a game, but It could be very possible. The Agency tried to kill Castro more than 600 times.).
funny, cuban exiles were mostly lazy and professionally labeled misfits.. They landed in Florida hating Castro, and most ended up as gangsters killing each other on the streets of Miami.. Those are great people to believe about the "adversity" in Cuba
@TheMarxist622 ---sure some may have been dishonest 9as in any group). Look at how successful and prosperous the Cuban community of Miami is (regardless of whether u like their politics, and I am one that doesnt)---they can hardly be properly called misfits or lazy. that Communist propaganda is causing u to see darkness in middle of day
@loyaldude10 i feel you, but that's just a really good percentage of people who work hard because they want to own 5 houses and 3 cars and that's fine I'm not mad at it.. And no brother, I'm not blinded by communist propaganda, there is no communist propaganda here, the CIA has control of U.S. journalism and therefore the only propaganda I'm exposed to is Capitalism... I was born and raised to be a socialist-democrat and that's what I am today.
That Mel Goodman is a rotten CIA scumbag,"an over rated president in JFK",Bullshit ,the President was tricked into this whole bay of pigs scenario,this was a CIA operation planned at the end of Ike's presidency and it had no chance of success and the criminals like Dulles knew it,Bundy cancelled the strike on the remaining Cuban fighters as ordered by the president,leaving the Cubans vulnerable,the CIA tried to force the president into a war using U.S troops which would have touched off ww3.
@thomasg74 Agreed, a huge lack of respect on his part, JFK nailed that corrupt organisation, firing Dulles the moment they tried to lay the blame on him for the bay of pigs invasion in public, in the end it got him killed, but JFK will always be respected for the stance he took towards the CIA.
They did not see themselves as mercenaries, but as patriots in their own right, and thought they had a chance of success because Fidel started the same way - a handful of guerrillas landing onshore and snowballing into a poular movement. But not only was the political momentum against them, but Castro had no intention of allowing anyone to do to him what he'd done to Batista.
they said it themselves a bunch of fat mercenaries that didnt know how to use a rifle......i doubt if they would have done that to marines and special forces...
@kmml1972 Brigade 2506 was a well-trained and well-armed unit that underwent a year of training by US military and included B-26B Invader bombers. Castro's much stronger forces met them with heavy artillery and armor such as T-34 tanks. The brigade surrendered after 3 days of heavy fighting when it ran out of ammunition due to lack of US promised support. Marines or special forces would have suffered the same fate under those conditions.
@shitbox99 so in another words they it wasnt well planned...im sorry but the when the special forces go in a place it take months of planning i trully believe thats what happened here...
@shitbox99 Several members of Brigade 2506 were photographed standing in Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed.Future Watergate burglar & Bay of pigs vet Bernard Barker was found by Deputy Seymour Weitzman behind the fence on the grassy knoll.Barker showed Secret Service ID and was let go.
@shitbox99 Thank you. Many people dont understand how strong these Cuban exiles fought during those 3 days for a Cuba that they felt would be better without Fidel's communist regime. And they were right, look what it has turned into. Although it was a failure, Brigade 2506 gave Fidel's army one hell of a fight.
@shitbox99 And I'm sure none of those men who had watched their families murdered by Castro and Guevara's firing squads after being paraded before the kangaroo courts (like France in 1789) would call themselves mercenaries.
the bay of pigs was planned by Eisenhower & Nixon.JFK did NOT want the invasion and JFK never gave his approval.During the cuban missle crisis the CIA sent a team into cuba without JFK's approval.They wanted to start a war between the US & Russia.
@themeaningoflife38 He did give the invasion his approval, but he didn't understand how half-assed the plan was, and he didn't like it or develop it. He was new and green and anxious about not looking soft, and learned his lesson very fast and very well. Had he not, we'd have gone under during the missile crisis.
@grumpytosnowwhite So' he back out, and the big help never show. Was okay about the approval. The wrong of everything for him stand up for the all operation, no matter how was the consequences. Like we does in Iraq, Afganistan.
Several members of Brigade 2506,Interpen & JMWAVE were all photographed in Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed.Interpen member & TSBD employee Danny Arce was at the corner of houston & elm talking on a radio.
Kennedy had just won a very close election wherein he had been Red-baited by Nixon and the right. When he got into office, he was told by the State and Military Depts that Ike (a lie in fact by Dulles) had approved a plan to invade Cuba with air and naval support from our forces. Bobby objected that it would make US equivalent to Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. Fearing being cast as soft on Communism, Kennedy allowed the operation to proceed without the US force support.
its a lot like what's going on now with Obama.The right wingers will do anything to make Obama look bad.
Ike,Nixon,Prescott Bush,George HW Bush were all involved along with many right wing corporations including Henry Luce of Life magazine who purchased the Zapruder film and kept it from view for ten years.
Ike wasn't a bad guy and even warned Americans of the power of the Military Industrial Complex to control US policy. Operation Zapata was a Nixon plan. Nixon was Naval Intelligence in WWII and supposedly had come across documents showing the transfer of Nazi money out of Germany by the likes of Prescott and the Dulles Bros.. His reward for keeping silent was political backing from Prescott and friends in campaign money. Nixon was a crooked bastard who took money from everyone. He was for sale!!!
Prescott Bush was also named by General Smedley Butler as being involved in a fascist plot to overthrow FDR in 1933.Along with GM,Chase Bank,Goodyear tire & rubber,US Steel.
Yes the groups you mention were highly vested in the Nazi war machine. In other word if the Nazi's did well they would prosper. Prescotts' $125 invetment in Brown Brothers Harriman was allegedly cashed out for $1,500,000 after the war. He did pretty well trading with the enemy. Apparently a Supreme Court Justice of that day stated that Bush and the Dulles Bros. were traitors. Now we know that is true.
Hi, I am doing a presentation of the bay of pigs so I need documents so I can prove my thesis, so if you know something about the bay of pigs, just comment what you know .
All I can add is after the failure of this operation- which was funded by the CIA and the Mafia in Florida (who wanted their casinos in Havana back), the planners of this invasion turned to plan the JFK Assassination. This is the REAL TRUTH....
Key words:The US couln't CONTROL Castro,therefore,they feared him,and tried numerous times to kill him.They couldn't CONTROL Che either--but they did manage to murder him.CONTROL=key word.
i wont probably have a plasma t.v, or other stuff like that, but at least id know that me and my family, would have an educaction, a job, food, a culture, and a formation. And in my personal point of view, again personal, this would be more important.
name one country where communism has worked? I mean where people truly have freedom and equality at the same time? There has never been a communist regime that wasn't very oppresive. Name one!
England, U.S, Canada, etc, all nations have a degree of poverty and problem. capitalism isn't perfect. However, much better than communism. I'd rather be poor in the United States rather than Cuba or China. I got a real chance to improve my life in a capitalist society.
I agree with u when u say is not perfect, and i think same bout socialism, both of them aren`t perfect. However i disagree when u say u rather be poor in the U.S, rather than Cuba.
U see, if you are poor in the U.S. that probaly means that youll be living in a unsecure neighborhood, sorunded by violence and drugs, youll have no acces to decent education, and lets not even say culture. Small chances to finish highschool or go to college.
Wont have the chance to get same quality regarding medicine than an upper class person. Maybe, maybe you can make it and overcome poverty, but most people who live in poverty in the U.S, suffer from what i said above, and other situations. I´d rather be "poor" in Cuba, cuz at least id get, exelent education for me or my family, i know ill never lack of exelent health care, the violence and crime is extremely low in any neighborhood, its very probable i wont have a car
@fideloner ---no---name a country where pure communism or socialism has worked? Compare N Korea to S Korea. Compare Vietnam to Thailand. US to USSR. China only started to prosper when it abandoned pure socialism, and received US aid and technical assistance
@loyaldude10 And who's in power now? I don't see U.S. journalists and news reporters advertising a "war for freedom" trying to invade China, China rarely got foreign aid from the U.S... that place is not Israel, idk what you're talking about but that's bullshit, I didn't see bush vainly labeling them "communists" like lyndon johnson, why? U.S. politicians, corporations, military are scared to death of being killed
@loyaldude10 PURE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER EXISTED, so ur first words tell me already that u dont exactly know what you are talkin about, and while pure communism has not existed capitalism has, and now u tell me a country where capitalism has worked? the u.s? with its ghettos full of crime, violence, poornes, drugdealers etc...México? with more than half of the population livin in poornes..? Or European countrys that supported their capitalist economy by exploiting and empovering Africa???
@fideloner - thats one of the problems with communism---they supposedly attempt to achieve something"pure' as if we live in a perfect world. At least in the US, the poor do have opportunities to get out of poverty---college scholarships, affirmative action programs,
JFK was, suprisingly Castro's favourite US president; personnally I think Kennedy new communism was working in Cuba but he had to be seen to do something...
when has communism ever worked? has things really got better under castro. You have high literacy but nothing to read. Improved health care but no freedom so you are slaves not to imperalism but to the power of castro. Land robbed from you. I don't think anything worked.
@groniga --yea. maybe they have higher literacy rates amd free health care (though I would bet the quality of care sucks) but u r right---at the cost of basic freedoms?
I'm making my thesis about Che Guevara, and I use this 'documentary' (although not evrything is correct...), can anyone tell me some more about the source? (channel, date and place of emmission, ...)
The beginning of the Video is wrong. This was a fight between John F Kennedy of the powerful USA and Nikita Khrushchev of the aggresive, and somewhat behind, USSR. Not Cuba. If it wasn't for USSR, Castro would've been a past tale decades ago.
@Isaak29 ---no---it is much more unsafe with the rise of Muslim extremism. When it was the USSR as public enemy no 1, it just meant they would incite rebellion in a country, we would counter, they would counter that, etc---like a chess game, but both countries would not use nukes---they were not crazy. Now---God help us if a radical Islamc regime gets nukes. God help us if they take over pakistan. USSR invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 unfortunately gave radical Islam more incentive.
Stupid Americans!!! think that their money can pay for everything or anything. The U.S.A. was, is and will continue to be a bigger threat to world peace. The GREED OF CAPITALISM is the CANCER that will KILL the U.S.A. not THE CUBAN LEADERS, FIDEL had/has the cojones to stand to the IMPERIALIST ASSHOLES that have sent so many people to their graves and the millions enslaved by the force of PUPETS DICTATORS. No other country over the FACE of the earth has killed more people than THE U.S.A.
the only thing wrong with the commentary by individuals is that it WASN'T Kennedy's plan,plot and operation;although he had to take the blame as the president!the mafia,the c.i.a.,Nixon and (not even so much)Eisenhower framed the circumstances of the fiasco!
It wasn't Kenney's plan, but I guess Kennedy knew he should take the blame--he was, after all, gullible or naive enough to be duped, and that was a mistake on his part that a president should not make. But at least he learned his lesson, and *fast*, and thanks to that, he not only began shutting down the CIA and intelligence operations, but also avoided World War III. So it was a good thing that he messed up early, when there wasn't as huge a threat.
JFK was not duped and was a pretty staunch cold warrior until the BOP and the missile crisis. Then he realized how the CIA and JCS were pushing for a war with Russia and even advised a first strike nuclear policy. This is when he realized the insanity that was being propagated by this group he set up the direct phone line to Kruschev. This would prevent an incident from turning into a full scale nuclear war. The horror of nukes is now realized and the whole world fears a bomb or two going off!
That's what I mean by duped. He was firmly convinced all that hawkish shit was the correct Cold War strategy, so they convinced him that their plan would work. And yeah, you're *totally* right about the CIA and DOD and stuff -- they were....I'm tempted to say "mistaken" but I think "rabid" would be a better adjective.
and because of this Kennedy condemed these men to their deaths,imprisonment, and retreat through the ocean where they had to eat their dead comrades to survive!
there were too few men in the brigade to really be a success, but they could have at least done a shit-load of damage and been evacuated out of there had kennedy not been such a pussy.
he was all about "plausibile deniability"...even though these men were using United States equipment and had U.S. Navy and Air Force guys obviouslly supporting them!
not to mention that no one else would be invading them except for americans!
A Cuban veteran and leader of Bay of Pigs told me one day Kennedy was totally innocent of the fiasco. He tried to help initially, openning the US Recruitment Centers to Cubans wishing to throw out the Castro regime. Of 250,000 Cubans already living in the US, only 4,500 show up in the recruitment centers. And 2,000 were turn down for age, or lack of conditions.
these were not crack troops, but to say they were 'quickly trained'would be inaccurate. cia had been busy with them under ike. kennedy took the fall for another cia failure. shall we name them?
why he called of naval support was because the usa and cuba had signed a treaty. That usa would never invade cuba in return cuba would not place any ussr nukes. So if there had been usa naval support of the invasion who would ever bother to sign any treaty with the usa
JFK didn't go ahead wit the Bay of Pigs, he refused to give the cuban rebels air support, which is what caused the failure for the CIA.
DefnishenTV 2 weeks ago
ill accept jfk to be a bit nieve but overrated is far from it
bigbadwolfy1977 2 weeks ago
it was genuis for the cia to give cuban exiles guns nooooot
bigbadwolfy1977 2 weeks ago
this is all bull shit castro is a cia agent he was helped to be in cuba castroo is a eugenic that destroy the island the missile crisses was to steal technologie from the russuans rocket the nuclear heads were never in cuba ,this is a hollywood movie like port of tunking and like 911 like oklahoma city and you are all a sleep in a matrix castro is a new world order poppet that is being killing the cubans and hekping the illuminatis to infiltrade in all the revolutions.wake up
144000V 3 weeks ago
@144000V Are you fucking retarded?
DPSMaster98 1 week ago
God save Castro. Full support.
olinoah71 1 month ago
The masses respond to him unlike we have ever seen before? Ughhhh..... 1930's?....WWII?....Germany?.... Funny guy little moustache?....
icefaceish 1 month ago
I thought Kennedy did not know about this operation?
pink2bluee 2 months ago
Thumbs up if you were born during the cold war
bayonet14 4 months ago
Man F*** this stuff
kennydamonddotson 5 months ago
It wasnt the CIA that went into cuba, it was the NSA, these people are dumb
jeffb5181 5 months ago
WOw. Every mercenarey and cia opperative involved in his assasination attempt are dead now. But castro still lives LOLOLOLOLOL CUBA CUBA CUBA
SnipeYourCheese 7 months ago
cuba reminds that people can still fight for their freedom
and that freedom and liberty were not invented by the usa
dyaakov 7 months ago
@dyaakov how is cuba these days? Havent been in my villa there since 92
Firecloud500 5 months ago
anyone kno wats the music called at 0:39 ??
MyWawaweewa 8 months ago
Any know what is the music called in the beginning?
Hperman09 8 months ago 4
@Hperman09 buena vista social club
68milo86 2 months ago
@68milo86 is that the song made by who?
Hperman09 2 months ago
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Hperman09 8 months ago
CIA Director Allen Dulles was on "vacation" in Peuto Rico during the BOP invasion leaving Deputy Director General Charles Cabel in charge.It was Gen Cabel that requested US air support at the last minute figuring he could pressure JFK into using US air power but JFK refused.
Ironically General Cabel's brother Earl was Mayor of Dallas on 11-22-63 which means he had total control of Dallas Police and JFK's motorcade route.
themeaningoflife38 9 months ago
If u think about it this way, kennedy was not dumb what if he used the cubans at the bay itself as a distraction while a special forces team went in to take out fidel? But it didnt work obiously.
Pocketz2369 10 months ago
well played by fidel! stay in miami gusanos
forerunner06 10 months ago
WHY IS FIDEL SMOKING THAT FAT ASS CIGAR AN IS NOT DEAD YET OF CANCER ,MOTHER FUCKER OVER HERE DIEING FROM 2ND SMOKE.
northmemphis48 10 months ago 6
@northmemphis48 He is advertizing it not actually smoking
allianceFiLifeDotCom 9 months ago
@northmemphis48 Fidel quit smoking in the 1980s, partly for health reasons and partly to defy Cubas ill founded reputation as an island of cigar smokers.
NoahSV 4 months ago
Most of them were ruthless killers, just ask the hundreds of civilians including women and children who were massacred by these savages. And yes, they did it for money and the power they would get after winning.
osmanygo 10 months ago
Did anyone else notice that the British narrator is Danny Wallace?
shenanty 10 months ago
CORECTION: The Cuban soldiers left to fight alone in Cuba NEVER SURRENDERED! There were CAPTURED by Fidel's Army after US support promised to these soldiers never showed up- My uncle was one of the many brave me who fought in The Bay of Pigs- After his release, he proudly served in the US Navy.
designsonyouinparis 10 months ago
American president Kennedy betrayed these men. I live in Brazil.
daltonagre 10 months ago
They were not MERCENARIES, they were doctors, lawyers, teachers, and everyday men. Many of them were as young as 17. They were fighting for a free cuba, not for money. JFK turn his back on these brave cubans, and thet will never forgive him.
Alejoperal 10 months ago
@Alejoperal i believe it was a mix. some were mercenaries and some were anti-communist cubans who wanted Castro out. But obvisouly, everyone knew that it would fail. But i believe it was worth a shot. 200 communist killed and 4,000 wounded. Small impact on Castro but these numbers are better than 0. But i do believe these cuban rebels should of been granted citizenship on their behalf, maybe even the mercenaries too.
m1grand70 10 months ago
@m1grand70 All of them are American citizens. the ones that survived beig in prison for two years went to Fort benning to become special forces and officers in the U.S army. one of my teachers in high school is a bay og pig veteran, Vietnam and Desert storm veteran. He became a u.S Ranger after being release from the P.O.W camps. He is a retire Lt.Colonel. I'm sorry but it was not mix, they were all cuban exile, hell bent on killing as many communist they can, to retrive their country back
Alejoperal 10 months ago
I believe this is just one of the factors leading to JFK's assassination. The CIA, was to be "broken in a thousand pieces" well Dulles&Co didn't agree and I believe they pulled it off. After that LBJ signed the order for Vietnam, and the Defense Establishment had their war. This operation was DOOMED from the gitty up. Without US support it would fail. The CIA went and did it anyway, with JFK's approval. Not nearly as bad as Dubya's "Iraqi WMD"...wat a cruel fucking joke. The rich get richer..
BookerT48 10 months ago
FIDEL CASTRO- 50 years of Bi-Winning!
DDazzle1 10 months ago
Bay of Pigs was planned by Nixon.
Google search "Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza" and see cia agents and members of Brigade 2506 standing in Dealey Plaza during the JFK assassination.
themeaningoflife38 10 months ago
lmao that was a failure whoever came with that plan,this is like Libya Rebels v Ghaddafi Soldiers....un-trained fighters v trained soldiers?
Tha89Kid 11 months ago
the music at the beginning made me lol
MountieFromHell 11 months ago
This is smut! Gee? you think this is pro CIA? Eisenhower and the CIA were working on this for so long and then JFK came in and messed it up. So, they did what any blood thirsty murderer would do. They fucking killed him.
h3HuuSm3LtIt 11 months ago
Goodwin is clearly bias... his comment about Kennedy is totally beside the point... not to mention that the bay of pigs was a Nixon Dulles plan... Goodwin is a total know nothing tool...
blakjedi 1 year ago
CIA mouthpiece Mel Goodwin really needs to put in his bias that Kennedy is ``overated I might add``which is totally besides the point and then twist history. Jfk fired Dulles, Bissell, and Cabel because they were working surreptitiously behind his back. Dulles is quoted as saying, to paraphrase, ``with the operation already in full swing we imagined that the sanctioning of air support would be a necessity.``He honourably took the blame publicly.
wunderdoggy 1 year ago
@wunderdoggy He couldn`t sanction air support as this was tantamount to a declaration of war on a sovereign nation. There was no way to imagine the anti-Castro cubans rustling up some airplanes.
wunderdoggy 1 year ago
What's the name of the song in the beginning?
bleyny 1 year ago
AGENT GARY PEPPER, CIA TRAITOR/RESIDES OSO, BELGIUM
1tuxedoedlobster 1 year ago
@10128222 thats fidel castro
Kevispro1 1 year ago
fucking communists pieces of shit. he will pay for what he's done to my country
yandykun 1 year ago
If they knew that it was going to be a failure why did they do it then?
zerocker45 1 year ago
my grandfathers brother was in the bay of pigs. He was improsined by Castro and his thugs for over 3 years. to this day, he does not speak of what happened while he was in prison. to this day, he speaks of JFK like one would do as a rat. I do not blame him.
sammysos21 1 year ago
Good job Castro, you may not be the nicest or "right" person, but thank you for defying the U.S. and their bullshit.
TheVampyreCat 1 year ago
@anigma68 You're an idiot. Do you always think small?
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
The Bay of Pigs doesn't make sense to me, I feel so naive though when I think how hindsight is always 20/20.
halfcabdisaster7 1 year ago
Who were the good guys during the Cold War, Latin American history shows us that in quite a few situations the U.S were the bad guys.
roberts11000 1 year ago
@roberts11000 Well for example US government supported Augusto Pinochet in Chile who killed very many of his own people, criminal dictators of Haiti and others just because they were anti communists. And americans were doing just the same in other places what soviets tried to do, placing missiles to attack SU.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Are you this stupid? We placed missiles in the event of a Nuclear war. If they fired at us. They know that we are close and we will fire back.
Do you not have any clue on how nuclear war works. It also gave US an advantage to throw it in their face that if they wanted to nuke us. They are fucked because we are right next to them and they will not make it out.
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
@shadowhunter388 " Are you this stupid? We placed missiles in the event of a Nuclear war. If they fired at us. They know that we are close and we will fire back." And thats what soviets tried, so if you nuke them they could nuke back?
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight No, because we were aware of those nukes and they would've been taken out but yes that was their purpose aswell.
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
What do u think happens after we die?
sluggo06 1 year ago
@anigma68 yes we did let a communist nation reign only 90 miles away from miami during a war we were suppost to fight with communism but look at the shithole it is now and look at how the US has transpired since those days and how they havent and we are the dumb ones? the reason cuba is so poor this day is because of us so i guess you could say we slowly destroyed cubas communist monarchy reign over the island without the need for major conflict. if you dont like the US feel free to leave kid.
poxflaza 1 year ago
And why was Castro so keen on invading Panama, Dominican Republic, trying to overthrow the democratically elected government in Venezuela, and Nuking the USA? Boo hoo, the CIA tried to overthrow him. Should have finished him off right then and there when we had the chance. Viva la Brigada Asolto 2516! Muerto a Fidel y Che!
RadioFreeWisconsin 1 year ago
funny how communism was such a threat to the USA for all those years and now communist china loans us money
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago 22
@themeaningoflife38 i know... lol
wokangoman 9 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 It's true but I don't think China can really count as Communist anymore.
GucciGunz 8 months ago
@GucciGunz Really I hadnt heard they changed?What are they now?
themeaningoflife38 8 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 They haven't officially changed as far as I know, but their actions are leaning more towards Capitalism.
GucciGunz 8 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 ..China has money because they have embraced capitalisim. Please forgive the brutal honesty.
wilatemodel 8 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 one guy says that a capitalist can sells you the rope where he will be hanged
dyaakov 7 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 u have that wrong dumb shit
littleCUBA1 5 months ago
the hole reason that they were going to invade is because there were over 2 hundred war heads if (cubian missle crisis) if u dont belive me look up the fog of war it about rober s. mcnamara and there is some stuff about bay of the pigs in there.
MrConnor120 1 year ago
@MrConnor120 Actually missile crisis happened after this...
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
The BOP invasion plan WAS inherited from Eisenhower but executed under Kennedy in a way that it not only wouldn't succeed but would be the worst kind of disaster. The guy in the video said the exiles couldn't fight. Maybe that's true but the plan, delivery and support given them was U.S.A made garbage.
darkiansmith 1 year ago
@anigma68 Ha we don't even have to do anything. Castro admitted that communism hasn't worked. If we are so stupid then why are Cuban refugees so determined to get here? Are they running away from their smart government? How about their free healhcare that they have to wait for months to get? If we wanted Cuba gone, we could get it done with the push of a button.
sgtSqeegee119 1 year ago
@sgtSqeegee119 Because they are poor coz of your illegal embargo. Healthcare system in Cuba is much better than in USA, and Cuba has longer newborn life expectancy than USA and any other caribbean island state, but people still want money and luxury that is nto that important, and thats why they go to USA. Different thing is how many of them find it there.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Yep, people are lining up for that great healthcare. Waiting for weeks to see a doctor. You won't see people traveling there for surgeries anytime soon.
sgtSqeegee119 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight This has to be the most stupidest fucking unintelligent statement I ever read.
You're right, Cuba is so quality that you still can't spell for shit. Also, a embargo is a treaty and it is no way illegal. On a side note: Your GDP speaks for itself. I mean damn, even Haiti has a stronger GDP it seems. In a hospital to see a doctor in USA it takes 3 minutes. In Cuba it takes 1 week. In USA I can make a living. In Communist Cuba, I am dirt poor and I work in a labor camp. Get real.
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
@shadowhunter388 Im not cuban, but doesnt very high life expectancy of Cuba tell something, its same that is in USA and way better than in Haiti? Its the best way see how healthy people are, not GDP. If seeing a doctor really takes so long how they can be still very healthy?
Your embargo is useless and illegal, UN is against it.
Cubans are poor because of United States embargo, not because of their government.
Anyway I wanna travel to that american free paradise.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Actually, Cubans might have okay health but I doubt its any better then ours. If so can you show me your source of information.
UN can go fuck itself. If it thinks that letting a nation give the okay to let another nation put nukes on its soil to blow the shit out of a country nearby is okay then they are on some serious drugs.
Yes the embargo has a major impact but it's government also shares part.
You also just admitted Cuban is poor so I seriously doubt health care is good.
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
@shadowhunter388 Well at least their life expectancy number is same that is in USA, and that is from reliable source. And its free for evryone. Come on, Cuban crisis were over 50 years ago, no one is putting nukes near you and Soviet Union is collapsed. It seems that some americans live too much in history and fear communism, and you were putting nukes too near Soviet Union.
And fear of communism, thats the reason for big war crimes Korea and Vietnam where US troops killed innocent civilians.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Bullshit. Average dumbass that would say something like this. Yet I see you haven't provided me a source. Cuba fucked up. It's there fault. We are not scared. If we were scared then we wouldn't be a superpower. War Crimes though is one big laugh. Tell me. What country do you come from because I am sure as hell your country has a shit load of history.
shadowhunter388 1 year ago
@shadowhunter388 I come from Finland like you can see from my profile, which was listed as best country of the world by american magazine.
Your superpower will be destroyed some day when enough people get fucked by you. Your foreign policy caused for example terrorism against west.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight yeah i saw that whats so great about finland?
Rio797 1 year ago
@Rio797 Pretty good living conditions and healthcare and things like that, but of course thats just because of high taxes... So really nothing at all.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Tell that BS to the South Koreans if US should not intervene to help them. US had one incident. If you look at Korean war history, the vast majority of civilians are killed by Korean troops from both sides. The US presence is there now in order to protect SK from NK as part of the 1953 mutual defense treaty. All was it due to the fact Korean war is not officially over, it ended in a ceasefire agreement, not a peace treaty. NK is against the UN, not just the US.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 Im not defending NK. Anyway in Vietnam war american soldiers killed civilians on purpose, in My Lai they murdered whole village of civilians, none of them had weapons or anything.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight The US never had intentional of killing civilians. Sure Cally and his men killed few does not make them as a whole bad. Any intentional of killing civilians will result of going to jail. The Communist killed millions, cut off arms that had received shots, kill people who sided with the US. If you're talking about US atrocities, how about you talk about VC crimes as well. The hue massacre was carried out by the VC and NVA and the casualties rate is about the same as 9/11 attack.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 In My Lai US soldiers killed 347–504 unarmed civilians (mostly women and children), there was no soldiers inside that village, and US troops shot everyone inside that village. Many of the victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated. While 26 U.S. soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at My Lai, only William Calley was convicted. So most of them didnt get even time in jail.
Your not any better than com
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Only because William Calley was a commander and ordered their soldiers to do so they are do as they are told. Japanese soldiers did not get convicted either for nanking or massacre in USSR because they were followering orders by their commanders as well. Were US soldier angels? Hell no! But are they're the same level as the VC? No way. VC get away with everything with their crimes and it's ok for them to do it? And it's not make-up it's a fact.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 i mean german troops for USSR,
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 And this is not propaganda, just historical fact.
Castro is real hero just because he didnt let imperialistic criminals to fuck his country like they did in Vietnam. Like i was saying USA was not any better than communists.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
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@Pvjinflight so you are a communist?
Kevispro1 1 year ago
I think the Bay of Pigs was a distraction. The CIA isn't stupid. They wanted Castro dead, easiest way to do it was to kill him. The Invasion was a distraction to send an SOG team to kill Castro. (You might say I got this from a game, but It could be very possible. The Agency tried to kill Castro more than 600 times.).
idricool 1 year ago
@idricool If it was like that than the whole SOG team must have been wiped out.
MrMiket102 1 year ago
Is it right to think that the US considered central America as its backyard?
astrologio 1 year ago
funny, cuban exiles were mostly lazy and professionally labeled misfits.. They landed in Florida hating Castro, and most ended up as gangsters killing each other on the streets of Miami.. Those are great people to believe about the "adversity" in Cuba
TheMarxist622 1 year ago
@TheMarxist622 ---sure some may have been dishonest 9as in any group). Look at how successful and prosperous the Cuban community of Miami is (regardless of whether u like their politics, and I am one that doesnt)---they can hardly be properly called misfits or lazy. that Communist propaganda is causing u to see darkness in middle of day
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 i feel you, but that's just a really good percentage of people who work hard because they want to own 5 houses and 3 cars and that's fine I'm not mad at it.. And no brother, I'm not blinded by communist propaganda, there is no communist propaganda here, the CIA has control of U.S. journalism and therefore the only propaganda I'm exposed to is Capitalism... I was born and raised to be a socialist-democrat and that's what I am today.
TheMarxist622 1 year ago
Fuck Cuba,not worth a single drop of JFKs Blood.
thomasg74 1 year ago
That Mel Goodman is a rotten CIA scumbag,"an over rated president in JFK",Bullshit ,the President was tricked into this whole bay of pigs scenario,this was a CIA operation planned at the end of Ike's presidency and it had no chance of success and the criminals like Dulles knew it,Bundy cancelled the strike on the remaining Cuban fighters as ordered by the president,leaving the Cubans vulnerable,the CIA tried to force the president into a war using U.S troops which would have touched off ww3.
thomasg74 1 year ago
@thomasg74 Agreed, a huge lack of respect on his part, JFK nailed that corrupt organisation, firing Dulles the moment they tried to lay the blame on him for the bay of pigs invasion in public, in the end it got him killed, but JFK will always be respected for the stance he took towards the CIA.
jgmcfc 1 year ago
They did not see themselves as mercenaries, but as patriots in their own right, and thought they had a chance of success because Fidel started the same way - a handful of guerrillas landing onshore and snowballing into a poular movement. But not only was the political momentum against them, but Castro had no intention of allowing anyone to do to him what he'd done to Batista.
TheAzov 1 year ago
Cocaine
In
America
electronicchronic 1 year ago
they said it themselves a bunch of fat mercenaries that didnt know how to use a rifle......i doubt if they would have done that to marines and special forces...
kmml1972 1 year ago
@kmml1972 Brigade 2506 was a well-trained and well-armed unit that underwent a year of training by US military and included B-26B Invader bombers. Castro's much stronger forces met them with heavy artillery and armor such as T-34 tanks. The brigade surrendered after 3 days of heavy fighting when it ran out of ammunition due to lack of US promised support. Marines or special forces would have suffered the same fate under those conditions.
shitbox99 1 year ago 20
@shitbox99 so in another words they it wasnt well planned...im sorry but the when the special forces go in a place it take months of planning i trully believe thats what happened here...
kmml1972 1 year ago
@kmml1972 ---that's an understatment to say it was poorly planned and funded. Half-assed is a better description
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@shitbox99
Thank you for telling the truth. I also thought that the invasion plan was inherited
from Ike.
coolmamac 1 year ago
@shitbox99 Several members of Brigade 2506 were photographed standing in Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed.Future Watergate burglar & Bay of pigs vet Bernard Barker was found by Deputy Seymour Weitzman behind the fence on the grassy knoll.Barker showed Secret Service ID and was let go.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@shitbox99 Thank you. Many people dont understand how strong these Cuban exiles fought during those 3 days for a Cuba that they felt would be better without Fidel's communist regime. And they were right, look what it has turned into. Although it was a failure, Brigade 2506 gave Fidel's army one hell of a fight.
mommeatloaf3 11 months ago
@shitbox99 And I'm sure none of those men who had watched their families murdered by Castro and Guevara's firing squads after being paraded before the kangaroo courts (like France in 1789) would call themselves mercenaries.
CrystalHunter1989 9 months ago
the bay of pigs was planned by Eisenhower & Nixon.JFK did NOT want the invasion and JFK never gave his approval.During the cuban missle crisis the CIA sent a team into cuba without JFK's approval.They wanted to start a war between the US & Russia.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
@themeaningoflife38 He did give the invasion his approval, but he didn't understand how half-assed the plan was, and he didn't like it or develop it. He was new and green and anxious about not looking soft, and learned his lesson very fast and very well. Had he not, we'd have gone under during the missile crisis.
grumpytosnowwhite 1 year ago
@grumpytosnowwhite So' he back out, and the big help never show. Was okay about the approval. The wrong of everything for him stand up for the all operation, no matter how was the consequences. Like we does in Iraq, Afganistan.
azalori 1 year ago
@grumpytosnowwhite ---good point. Blessing in disguise.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
fail...
kingster20 2 years ago
Several members of Brigade 2506,Interpen & JMWAVE were all photographed in Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed.Interpen member & TSBD employee Danny Arce was at the corner of houston & elm talking on a radio.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago 2
US Stinks!
zipcode61 2 years ago
The PIGGS lives on and kontinue theyr PIGGWORK all over this fine World.
Time has come to destroy The PIGGS!
Die US-PIGGS!
u will never get mastered this World, much to big for YOU!
Faggot!
zipcode61 2 years ago
Kennedy had just won a very close election wherein he had been Red-baited by Nixon and the right. When he got into office, he was told by the State and Military Depts that Ike (a lie in fact by Dulles) had approved a plan to invade Cuba with air and naval support from our forces. Bobby objected that it would make US equivalent to Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. Fearing being cast as soft on Communism, Kennedy allowed the operation to proceed without the US force support.
Compromise burned him.
ROLtheWolf 2 years ago 3
its a lot like what's going on now with Obama.The right wingers will do anything to make Obama look bad.
Ike,Nixon,Prescott Bush,George HW Bush were all involved along with many right wing corporations including Henry Luce of Life magazine who purchased the Zapruder film and kept it from view for ten years.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Ike wasn't a bad guy and even warned Americans of the power of the Military Industrial Complex to control US policy. Operation Zapata was a Nixon plan. Nixon was Naval Intelligence in WWII and supposedly had come across documents showing the transfer of Nazi money out of Germany by the likes of Prescott and the Dulles Bros.. His reward for keeping silent was political backing from Prescott and friends in campaign money. Nixon was a crooked bastard who took money from everyone. He was for sale!!!
larry1369 2 years ago
Prescott Bush was also named by General Smedley Butler as being involved in a fascist plot to overthrow FDR in 1933.Along with GM,Chase Bank,Goodyear tire & rubber,US Steel.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Yes the groups you mention were highly vested in the Nazi war machine. In other word if the Nazi's did well they would prosper. Prescotts' $125 invetment in Brown Brothers Harriman was allegedly cashed out for $1,500,000 after the war. He did pretty well trading with the enemy. Apparently a Supreme Court Justice of that day stated that Bush and the Dulles Bros. were traitors. Now we know that is true.
larry1369 2 years ago 3
Hi, I am doing a presentation of the bay of pigs so I need documents so I can prove my thesis, so if you know something about the bay of pigs, just comment what you know .
acv1413 2 years ago
All I can add is after the failure of this operation- which was funded by the CIA and the Mafia in Florida (who wanted their casinos in Havana back), the planners of this invasion turned to plan the JFK Assassination. This is the REAL TRUTH....
spritz0 2 years ago
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OPERATION NORTHWOODS.
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago
OPERATION NORTHWOODS.
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago
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Key words:The US couln't CONTROL Castro,therefore,they feared him,and tried numerous times to kill him.They couldn't CONTROL Che either--but they did manage to murder him.CONTROL=key word.
FREEW0RLD2012 3 years ago
y did kenidy have eggs all over his face ?
swiFtey08 3 years ago
i wont probably have a plasma t.v, or other stuff like that, but at least id know that me and my family, would have an educaction, a job, food, a culture, and a formation. And in my personal point of view, again personal, this would be more important.
fideloner 3 years ago
y r u telling me this ?
swiFtey08 3 years ago
i`m sorry that was actually not for you.
fideloner 3 years ago
name one country where communism has worked? I mean where people truly have freedom and equality at the same time? There has never been a communist regime that wasn't very oppresive. Name one!
groniga 3 years ago
Name a country where capitalism has worked. Same problem.
fideloner 3 years ago
England, U.S, Canada, etc, all nations have a degree of poverty and problem. capitalism isn't perfect. However, much better than communism. I'd rather be poor in the United States rather than Cuba or China. I got a real chance to improve my life in a capitalist society.
groniga 3 years ago
I agree with u when u say is not perfect, and i think same bout socialism, both of them aren`t perfect. However i disagree when u say u rather be poor in the U.S, rather than Cuba.
U see, if you are poor in the U.S. that probaly means that youll be living in a unsecure neighborhood, sorunded by violence and drugs, youll have no acces to decent education, and lets not even say culture. Small chances to finish highschool or go to college.
fideloner 3 years ago 2
Wont have the chance to get same quality regarding medicine than an upper class person. Maybe, maybe you can make it and overcome poverty, but most people who live in poverty in the U.S, suffer from what i said above, and other situations. I´d rather be "poor" in Cuba, cuz at least id get, exelent education for me or my family, i know ill never lack of exelent health care, the violence and crime is extremely low in any neighborhood, its very probable i wont have a car
fideloner 3 years ago
@fideloner ---so what does poor in Cuba look like? I cant believe there is little crime and other social problems
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@fideloner ---no---name a country where pure communism or socialism has worked? Compare N Korea to S Korea. Compare Vietnam to Thailand. US to USSR. China only started to prosper when it abandoned pure socialism, and received US aid and technical assistance
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 And who's in power now? I don't see U.S. journalists and news reporters advertising a "war for freedom" trying to invade China, China rarely got foreign aid from the U.S... that place is not Israel, idk what you're talking about but that's bullshit, I didn't see bush vainly labeling them "communists" like lyndon johnson, why? U.S. politicians, corporations, military are scared to death of being killed
TheMarxist622 1 year ago
@TheMarxist622 ---but always remember-----u could never criticize Chinese govt over there and survive as u could over here. Freedoms are priceless
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 PURE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER EXISTED, so ur first words tell me already that u dont exactly know what you are talkin about, and while pure communism has not existed capitalism has, and now u tell me a country where capitalism has worked? the u.s? with its ghettos full of crime, violence, poornes, drugdealers etc...México? with more than half of the population livin in poornes..? Or European countrys that supported their capitalist economy by exploiting and empovering Africa???
fideloner 1 year ago
@fideloner - thats one of the problems with communism---they supposedly attempt to achieve something"pure' as if we live in a perfect world. At least in the US, the poor do have opportunities to get out of poverty---college scholarships, affirmative action programs,
loyaldude10 1 year ago
JFK was, suprisingly Castro's favourite US president; personnally I think Kennedy new communism was working in Cuba but he had to be seen to do something...
BryanTaerg 3 years ago
when has communism ever worked? has things really got better under castro. You have high literacy but nothing to read. Improved health care but no freedom so you are slaves not to imperalism but to the power of castro. Land robbed from you. I don't think anything worked.
groniga 3 years ago
You are incorrect. Also I would like to point out a typo in my previous comment I said "Kennedy new" I meant Kennedy "knew"
BryanTaerg 3 years ago
@groniga --yea. maybe they have higher literacy rates amd free health care (though I would bet the quality of care sucks) but u r right---at the cost of basic freedoms?
loyaldude10 1 year ago
Hi,
I'm making my thesis about Che Guevara, and I use this 'documentary' (although not evrything is correct...), can anyone tell me some more about the source? (channel, date and place of emmission, ...)
Thanks :-)
Coerloec 3 years ago
ok dumbass... the US didn't invade because Cuba was socialist, Castro declared communism Dec 02 1961, and when was the invasion? april 17 1961!
6842742 3 years ago
The beginning of the Video is wrong. This was a fight between John F Kennedy of the powerful USA and Nikita Khrushchev of the aggresive, and somewhat behind, USSR. Not Cuba. If it wasn't for USSR, Castro would've been a past tale decades ago.
Isaak29 3 years ago
I only have one thing to say: God Bless America, ny friends. With the collapse of the USSR, America and the world is now safe.
Isaak29 3 years ago
@Isaak29 ---no---it is much more unsafe with the rise of Muslim extremism. When it was the USSR as public enemy no 1, it just meant they would incite rebellion in a country, we would counter, they would counter that, etc---like a chess game, but both countries would not use nukes---they were not crazy. Now---God help us if a radical Islamc regime gets nukes. God help us if they take over pakistan. USSR invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 unfortunately gave radical Islam more incentive.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
Stupid Americans!!! think that their money can pay for everything or anything. The U.S.A. was, is and will continue to be a bigger threat to world peace. The GREED OF CAPITALISM is the CANCER that will KILL the U.S.A. not THE CUBAN LEADERS, FIDEL had/has the cojones to stand to the IMPERIALIST ASSHOLES that have sent so many people to their graves and the millions enslaved by the force of PUPETS DICTATORS. No other country over the FACE of the earth has killed more people than THE U.S.A.
redstar127 4 years ago
the russians and german have been the reason for five times as many deaths
nptmario 3 years ago
the only thing wrong with the commentary by individuals is that it WASN'T Kennedy's plan,plot and operation;although he had to take the blame as the president!the mafia,the c.i.a.,Nixon and (not even so much)Eisenhower framed the circumstances of the fiasco!
eldoradoreefgold 4 years ago 3
Ike never framed up any plans. He just gave the OK for it.
Allen Dulles, Felix Rodriguez, and the boys at JMWAVE were behind the whole operation.
TruePatriot00 4 years ago
It wasn't Kenney's plan, but I guess Kennedy knew he should take the blame--he was, after all, gullible or naive enough to be duped, and that was a mistake on his part that a president should not make. But at least he learned his lesson, and *fast*, and thanks to that, he not only began shutting down the CIA and intelligence operations, but also avoided World War III. So it was a good thing that he messed up early, when there wasn't as huge a threat.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago 6
JFK was not duped and was a pretty staunch cold warrior until the BOP and the missile crisis. Then he realized how the CIA and JCS were pushing for a war with Russia and even advised a first strike nuclear policy. This is when he realized the insanity that was being propagated by this group he set up the direct phone line to Kruschev. This would prevent an incident from turning into a full scale nuclear war. The horror of nukes is now realized and the whole world fears a bomb or two going off!
larry1369 2 years ago
That's what I mean by duped. He was firmly convinced all that hawkish shit was the correct Cold War strategy, so they convinced him that their plan would work. And yeah, you're *totally* right about the CIA and DOD and stuff -- they were....I'm tempted to say "mistaken" but I think "rabid" would be a better adjective.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
@grumpytosnowwhite he was gullible enough to believe what?
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 That the Bay of Pigs invasion would work.
grumpytosnowwhite 1 year ago
and because of this Kennedy condemed these men to their deaths,imprisonment, and retreat through the ocean where they had to eat their dead comrades to survive!
Thanks a lot Kennedy, you Douche!
*end of rant*
PadawanOsswe 4 years ago
there were too few men in the brigade to really be a success, but they could have at least done a shit-load of damage and been evacuated out of there had kennedy not been such a pussy.
he was all about "plausibile deniability"...even though these men were using United States equipment and had U.S. Navy and Air Force guys obviouslly supporting them!
not to mention that no one else would be invading them except for americans!
PadawanOsswe 4 years ago
A Cuban veteran and leader of Bay of Pigs told me one day Kennedy was totally innocent of the fiasco. He tried to help initially, openning the US Recruitment Centers to Cubans wishing to throw out the Castro regime. Of 250,000 Cubans already living in the US, only 4,500 show up in the recruitment centers. And 2,000 were turn down for age, or lack of conditions.
eldorado46 4 years ago 2
these were not crack troops, but to say they were 'quickly trained'would be inaccurate. cia had been busy with them under ike. kennedy took the fall for another cia failure. shall we name them?
eyechord 4 years ago
year and a half later the cuban missile crisis.
bradvickers36 4 years ago
mercerines are not all fat
Armand1694 4 years ago
they responded to Castro because Bautista who was there before was a corrupt almost puppet leader to the USA. Castro was for the people.
WerewolfReaper 4 years ago
End bad Interventionist policies. Vote Ron Paul for 2008. dailypaul . com / freedom-under-siege/Freedom-Under-Siege-Ch-2 . pdf
actwealthy 4 years ago
why he called of naval support was because the usa and cuba had signed a treaty. That usa would never invade cuba in return cuba would not place any ussr nukes. So if there had been usa naval support of the invasion who would ever bother to sign any treaty with the usa
knightonabike 4 years ago