I just saw an article about this ad, and I think it was genius! Obviously it was trying to reach out to the Hispanic community and let them know they can feel more comfortable while buying a car, because there will be workers there that speak Spanish. It´s not ´catering´ to immigrants, just letting them know bilingual workers exist at Earl Stewart -- just as they do at many other establishments.
Speak English - this is America. Does Earl the Squirrel sell to illegals? Build the wall, speak English. Anything for a buck? I live in Wellington, Fl and will never buy a car from Earl Stewart. We have real problem with crime and illegals in South Fl. especially Lake Worth. We will definetly boycott this dealership.
i am not a racist - i am a patriot and our country is under attack by millions of illegal immigrants. creating a second language undermines our country. do not call me a racist sweetwater - i am now in the process of starting a boycott of earl stewert - thank you for your comment it has strentghened my resolve.
@jamesbeach2 ahaha wow ur fuckin dumb. automatically if you speak spanish your an illegal and a crimminal, how fucking ignorant. they should put idiotic people like you behind a wall. the united states has the second highest spanish speaking population in the world. more than Spain.
@dudeonthasopha YOU ARE THE RETARD. WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND KEEP THEM OUT. THEN WE WILL SHIP THEM BACK IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL. WE WILL DRIVE THE ILLEGALS OUT. SPEAK ENGLISH. THE HELL WITH TWO LANGUAGES. SPEAK ENGLISH!
@jamesbeach2 around 45 million people speak spanish in the united states. and they are all legal because they are counted US citizens. and its a very small minority that dont know any english. many of them speak fluent english but some of them their spanish is still better than english. just because your in the process of learning english doesnt mean you cant be in society.US is gettin more bilingual every year and you and ur fuckin caps lock isnt gonna change shit.besides spanish is fuckin easy
@jamesbeach2 ahaha wow ur fuckin dumb. automatically if you speak spanish your an illegal and a crimminal, how fucking ignorant. they should put idiotic people like you behind a wall. the united states has the second highest spanish speaking population in the world. more than Spain.
Oh, and btw, your English sucks. Don't get all cocky because you know the word "education". The Spanish spelling is: educación. Funny how easy English is huh?
I think its disgusting that my wives ancestors (and my own) had to go through so much shit just to make a living in this country and here we go wiping illegals asses. Why don't we just abdicate and move to mexico.
actually learning languages isn't bad nor hard. If you can't learn nor have the education to speak more than your one and only one language then fine, but don't put that on others who appreciate education.
Actually I love Latin flavors. My girl is of the Caribbean variety, but She speaks English first because she is an American Caribbean. I love languages of all sorts but I have a problem with paying for things I don't want e.g. commercials that exclude me as a potential buyer. Especially when I payed for the goddamned commercial.
I don't think you pay for commercial. Obviously you just want to exclude yourself by chosing not to learn other languages. My first language is Spanish and I don't feel excluded when I see english comercial because I KNOW English. Besides, you aren't the intented target on this commercial so let the ones who knows other languages decide which one they want to use.
I'll exclude myself anyway I choose, I'm a Citizen. You should know English if if your in America. The intended targets already have Spanish language channels that I have to pay for on basic cable. Basic economics babe, shit rolls downhill.
excuse me but who the hell told you I do not speak English? I am an American citizen and I do not have to learn english because I came here, I know English because I do like education and I know languages is about education, it has nothing to do with nationality. That you are ignorant and educated is your problem. Learn Spanish and stop complaining, simple.
Kiehlroy, I don't give a fuck if you are citizen, I am one too and I learned English even before I ever thought of coming to the US and you know why? because unlike you, I choose to educate myself and learn other languages, it has nothing to do with nationality or immigration, i learned it cause I like education, because I am not like you who think being bilingual or trilingual is bad.
You are an ignorant my friend, for you to think that learning Spanish is bad or any other langugage, how ignorant can you be??
and for your information, this is a free country and you have no fucking right to impose no language on anybody (eventought I agree with everybody learning as they become BILINGUALS not simple MONOLINGUALS like you) and how hypocrit can you be? did your ancestors learn CHEROKEE when they came here???
haha poor gringo MONOLINGUAL and gets mad when others speak other languages....gringo imbecil who the fuck are you to tell me not to speak my language?? learn, get educated like the one on this video gringo IGNORANTE DE MIERDA , CHUPA PINGAS.
How stereotypical of you to lose tour Latin temper and start the name calling. I was actually enjoying our debate till you felt disadvantaged and became uncivil. You're a fool because you've made completely erroneous assumptions about my opinions on foreign cultures and languages.
well not everyone is an Amrerican caribbean and as far as I know the US doesn't own any Caribbean island. First, I don't think you are paying for these commercials. Second, nobody is excluding you, you are EXCLUDING yourself by not learning other languages. Third, the fact that you are a monolingual doesn't give you the right to stop others, specially bilinguals like me, to use the languages they know. Fourth, you are obviously not the intented target here.
Fifth, maybe if you educated yourself better and learn some other language other than your native you wouldn't be that frustrated when others speak several languages.
I'm educated, actually:) Maybe if Spanish speaking immigrants were more proficient in their own language English wouldn't be so hard for them to learn. About 60% of the English language is Latin based, BTW. I actually took Latin in school and I read all Romance languages functionally. Also I lived in Mexico for a couple years so I speak Spanish well enough. In my line of work I regularly have to translate for people who have never read a book in Spanish let alone in English. Está todo ocupado!
well too bad that you stereotype every Spanish speaking immigrant but I am not surprised to hear that from an ignorant bigot. Maybe all you attract are ppl who have never read a book because they see as them. In fact, I am Spanish speaker and I am proficient in both Spanish and English and my english is fact is better than your Spanish.
Too bad you are such an ignorant who stereotype everyone by the language they speak. Actually if you were educated and openminded, you would now the ones you work with do not represent the whole LatinAmerica as well as how I know how bigots and ignorants like you that I come across everyday do not represent the whole American population. Learn some languages and get educated instead of sitting on your butt complaining why the world speak other languages.
IBM- You just don't get it do you. Your only position is to argue. This line preceds what you quote. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!". It means, send us the people you treat poorly, send to this land of opportunity your opportunity seekers, your freedom seekers, "your masses yearning to breathe free."
#2-IBM- Keep your pomp. Keep your oppressive ways, keep the culture that oppressed your people.--- Every single American is the custodian of the American dream, past present and future. Freedom in a form unknown to mankind prior to America is handed to each generation of Americans
But exclude someone if they don't come from "ancient lands"? You're rambling now, talking before of a "unifying" language, but unwilling to unify with English (and French)-speaking Canadians. If it is our job to expand that freedom, aren't more people, and more lands under that freedom a better thing?
It is our job to protect, maintain and advance that freedom in its purist form for the future. How sad will it be if America is divided while American freedom is diluted and lost on this generations watch? Lost due to the complacency we were guilted into.
#4-Unknown and pompous tyrants and despots would love to apply reinvented divine rule through the whole of North America. The only thing in the way is, Americans.
I think what you are trying to say in all of this is that you are afraid America is losing its identity. Identities change over time, and that has been the case in America's past too. But I think your vision is locked in a little tight in some areas that doesn't allow reality in.
#1-IBM- My passion for America is not born of fear. My passion is a derivative of the Respect and Honor I hold for those Americans who came before me. The ones, the many, who paid with their blood, their sweat, their passion and with their sacred honor, their very lives, to protect what all Americans and the world receive the benefit of today.
#2--America has a very strong identity. America is and always has been a beacon of hope for the individual freedom seeker. The people of the world know this, and know what America represents, even as they parrot the power hungry tyrants of their region.
#3--Americans, in their quest to help others in the world have allowed their high level of giving, kindness and tolerance to become fertilizer for intolerance and incivility toward America and the American culture of freedom
#4--The reality is that a very large group of illegal immigrants in America today receive the benefits of what America built. Yet they have no idea how the opportunities came to be available to them in America. They don't know the prices paid by previous generations of Americans for the opportunities they now have.
#5 Most of the illegal immigrants don't know the American culture of freedom, because that knowledge, that pride and that understanding of that freedom, comes from knowledge embedded in American English.
#6--When these immigrants come to America seeking freedom and opportunity, and they then pilfer such things as our health care system, break laws, illegally seek benefits, all the while carrying a foreign flag, carrying a foreign allegiance and denouncing America and Americans in a foreign language on American soil.......Well I call that biting the hand that feeds you,,,, and that hand, is the hand of freedom!
This is great material for a humane view of what immigration is. And it was written in a lower immigration standard. Some would have it appear that America just wants only the rich (to be able to afford increased immigration fees) and the patient (to wait all of the years to become a citizen) now.
Sorry, sorry, sorry: one more shot at Fred. I checked out the posts Fred has sprinkled across the Internet. This man has a LOT of opinions. He is so very, very sure of himself. Ah sweet anonymity, you give us the balls we never had. You make a man like Fred, an inconsequential, little man feel he has a voice in this world. Thank you anonymity. Thank you.
Something really interesting: Google Fred13red. This nut is all over the place! Forget about time spent on YouTube, Fred is a professional forum poster. He has also attacked Earl Stewart in the past on Earl's blog. Obsess much Freddy? See you in a few days...
On another note, where's the outrage over Dora the Explorer? I walked into my living room this morning and my poor kids were being exposed to SPANISH!!! HORRORS! AAAAAHHHH!!!!
Sweetwaterbonehead---no one is outraged at Dora or at the Spanish language. We are outraged that a language other than English is being embedded for work favoring one group of people with a huge population of illegal aliens, discriminating against non-Spanish speaking legal immigrant and citizens. Dismissive as many racist pro Spanish embedding are, there will be dialogue, and we will never agree, as one side is completely intolerant, and patronizing.
If you're upset that some are violent in nature I can't help them. It is a sign of frustration in some and possibly worse. Just as we are upset that some illegals claim they are taking back land rightfully theirs and also hate whites. As far a Dora it could be interpreted as an effort to immerse our young to Spanish, but embedding Spanish is happening and some don't want anything said. Sounds like many are fed up, what is it you have against dialogue.
Ask your wife what the term "Chicano" means. It actually fits her closer than "Mexican". Then figure out who the term Chicano excludes (we aren't just talking about Caucasians).
I'd actually like a little more dialog about how the U.S. will lose territory, but I don't know if this is the right forum for what that entails...
IBM—If I asked my wife what chicano means she would look at me like I'm nuts and so would her parents. It's never been a big subject for us to run around with labels of our ancestry. She is an American of Mexican ancestry who's heritage is U.S. which is a mix of culture's and she has a right to celebrate any culture she wants, my Italian, German or Mexican and it doesn't make her any less Mexican or Hispanic. Polarize and label till your heart content.
I don't know you, and I'm already looking at you like you are nuts sometimes, and some times with admiration. Wikipedia has a good (but varied) definition, as it can differ slightly by region and the context used. Bonus points for looking at "pocho" there too.
You see, we already have you speaking a little Spanish...
IBM—The U.S. will not lose territory but there are many in three governments that want to make a union, and Mexico feels it can gain a control of some territory it lost through bad sales and war from years ago.
IBM—As far as Lady Liberty the words still ring true. 39% of pop growth in last 30 years from immigration. 6 million legally enter and 2 ½ million become citizens yearly.
Maybe for some we should add the words, come here illegally, use fake or stolen ID's, drive without license or insurance, overburden hospitals, social services and call everyone else names acting all self-righteous as you wave another country's flag.
Meaning that 61% was from non-immigrant population growth. If 6 million enter, why is there a disparity of only a fraction becoming citizens? It is a mistruth to compare today with an older timeframe of no immigration law, no work authorization needed, no cars, and many of the programs that weren't in place as today.
Teddy Roosevelt said his words, because he saw the problems at that time too...
IBM—not all who legally immigrate here become citizens, but many are legal immigrants, I don't know how long they are allowed to stay I'm assuming some can stay many years. If nuts is being frustrated that I see a double standard dealing with protecting what I believe is my culture and language, or those who support rewarding anyone for breaking laws then I'm nuts. Again it all a very complex issue and only some want silence.
If it is a ten year greencard (in the case of being married to a U.S. citizen, that is after their two year anniversary) it can be renewed further. Here you say "my culture", but a post ago it was that "many" cultures were in the United States. Which "rewards" are you saying for breaking laws?
IBM---while it's all right to accuse English-speaking whites of not understanding other cultures, they also act like we have no culture; food, language, and we are not allowed to even discus the fact of our culture being pushed aside, in order to celebrate the others.
See just a question. Illegal immigration is ingrained with the Spanish language issue..
But you say your wife can celebrate whichever culture she chooses. Isn't that a double standard when you won't allow others the same freedom? Sounds like you have a need for dialog right in your own household.
I will strongly disagree that Spanish is linked to illegal immigration. It's interesting to listen to xeno forums, where someone speaking Spanish is instantly defined as an illegal.
There's issues there, and it really sounds like you are knocking her abilities down. Treat your wife with respect. More Spanish for you, her name will now be "Te Amo" from you. If you do follow that advise you will find out what it means.
IBM --You're not the first to use globalization, victimization, and discrimination to bully a lopsided agenda. While there is truth that racism is real, as far as illegal immigration and the embedding of Spanish, it is absolutely reverse discrimination using slick propaganda. As far as my wife you know nothing about her, so let me tell she is a professional making a great living and if anything I have helped reach her goals. Understand Doc.
I think the disparity between legal immigration and naturalization need a study of its own. For someone legally immigrating, you would think an end goal would be citizenship. Something (and the statistics are before the fees went up at the end of July) is holding a majority back each year.
IBM--- I'm only going on personal experience dealing in working conditions where employers hire hundreds of illegals and how intolerant and disrespectful they treat non-Spanish speaking co-workers, so to insinuate only English speaking are using language as a discriminating weapon is not what I personally and others have experienced.
IBM--Illegals are not innocent victims of white racist. You are starting to bore me when you try to play attorney and psychotherapist. Let me ask did you go to the Vegas RJ and read the article by Jane Ann Morrison, or check out the video on Youtube of Cohen and Grigsby. We have a problem with big business exploiting legal and illegal and the end result destroys our standard of life. Look at the video and if it doesn't concern you I know who the intolerant one is here.
I'm looking a little ahead of dialog - I want people to think of what dialog they will use, before they start talking. So far I see agendas on either side, and quite a bit of mistruths and misunderstandings. Again, I don't think that this is a forum for that discussion.
Sweetwaterbonehead---no one is outraged at Dora or at the Spanish language. We are outraged that a language other than English is being embedded for work favoring one group of people with a huge population of illegal aliens, discriminating against non-Spanish speaking legal immigrant and citizens. Dismissive as many racist pro Spanish embedding are there will be dialogue, and we will never agree, as one side is completely intolerant, and patronizing.
That's MISTER Sweetwaterbonehead to you. Outrage is for unhappy people with bugs up their asses. Just following you and Fred13 the Psycho bitching (however eloquently on your part)for over a week makes my skin crawl. You don't represent America, you represent the cranky fringe. You and Fred really do need to get up from your computer more often and live a little.
...and before you tell me the sky is falling, use your considerable smarts to do a little reflection on all the other immigrant scares the country has suffered in its history. Also reflect on the other various cultural doomsdays reactionaries like you and Fred have prostyletized about since the beginning of time.
sweetwaterbonefish---sorry my writing skills and juvenile humor collide allot. Has any recent immigrant language been embedded across the country for work like Spanish? When Mexico's president states more illegals will come no matter what, don't you believe losing your youngest most likely able to build a country is bad. Many jobs in the west speak only Spanish, even though to be a citizen you must have a basic knowledge of English and they don't.
sweetwaterbonefish---it's hardly a cranky fringe as Arizona and other states voted to end benefits to illegals winning by large numbers.. Many states voted to make English the state language all passed easily, only to be challenged in court.. The cranky fringe seems to be greedy business exploiting illegals and citizens and the pro-illegal alien Spanish speaking as the majority have spoken many times. My life is filled with diversity. I don't have to buy bull shit to look tolerant.
Unless you're doing some serious public service out there I'm not aware of, you're just a critical pamphleteer on YouTube. That qualifies you for the cranky fringe.
wife and I have attended immigration forums race relation meetings, and more. Why I would even take time to tell you is because like some others you feel name-calling will stop honest dialogue on this subject. Those of us who live a diversified life don't have to buy into bullshit to feel tolerant. Oh yea sorry about the juvenile humor again. Cranky fringes like to call names like xenophobic, bigot and others.
One common thing the I'm oh-so tolerant actors do is call names, if that doesn't work dismiss people or real stats on things they disagree with. While we are making our own small impact, at least it's honest and without agendas bullying our own intolerant agendas that ends up favoring one group of people or immigrant mostly illegal.
Back early I see, ehh SWB. For the edikated 1+1 = 2. Two is a couple. Your back in less than 24 Hrs, thats less than one. The real world kick ya to the curb?
Name calling like "Mexican" when it is reference to a Hispanic U.S. citizen only descended from Mexicans? Wonder whom that was? Someone mentioned in your posts?
#1--SWB--I believe we did reflect on a previous immigrant problem. Matter of fact, the other champion of low immigrant expectations (IBM) is the one who described it. It was handled correctly by Teddy Roosevelt, no week-kneed pandering, no praising of the culture
that they left behind, but a reminder of the culture they (by choice) came to.
#2-A reminder to join and protect the country they chose. A reminder to learn the American culture, the culture of freedom. And to learn the language that freedom was developed in, English. Teddy Roosevelt's high expectations of immigrants unified America. Pretentious pandering of immigrants by social beguilers will fracture American unity.
Lady Liberty set the bar pretty low when she said "poor", "tired", "homeless", and worse, "wretched refuse of your teeming shore". And boy did we get them, and still do. But we also got (and continue to get) a majority of hard working folks that made the United States (and continue to build it up).
You want to hang a "No Vacancy" sign over the top of that now?
Wow! This still going on! IBM - you're too kind. Fred13 (being the stalwart defender of the English language that he is) has butchered English syntax and grammar far more than his grade-school level mis-use of contractions. This seems to be a theme here: the anti-immigration crowd (particularly the most vituperative) seem to be the least educated.
SWB+ IBM--Ahhh, a response from the vitiated, when content is lacking in your position, look for presentation errors. Then deliver a castigating review on syntax and grammar usage. In an attempt to censure all but your own views you have illuminated the turgid and pompous view you have of yourselves. Again, as previously, rules are quoted from one side of the sophist's mouth, while a "blind eye attitude" is delivered from the other.
Fred must have a smart friend... you only have two lifelines left, Freddy! The best thing about you F13R is that you spend all your time debating phantoms on a YouTube site about a stupid car dealer ad. At least you are not actually affecting the real world. The phrase "get a life" keeps coming to mind. I'll check back in a few days for your sassy little comeback (after I take care of some things in the real world)
IBM- Your rambling. And at each post you make the point stronger and stronger for the concept of a single unifying language for the United States. Which was already established as a concept until recently. You also make a VERY strong point for EVERYONE following the rules,laws and tax codes of this country. The ones they and/or their elected politicians voted for.---------------------------------You said you wanted to get back on topic. Identify the topic.
Perfect example IBM-"Teddy Roosevelt made those comments late in his life, when he saw masses of Germans that had immigrated to the United States, still flying the flag of Germany and still speaking German (Wow, some interesting parallels to things today, but let's get back on topic!)..." And the topic is?
A common language is not enough to have my grandmother, mother, and sister use that language across single generational gaps for unity...
My wife and I, with different primary languages, but each learning the other, are so unified that you can't get a piece of paper between us some of the time...
Heck, let's merge with Canada (at least there isn't a wall on *that* border for America's "safety"), Hello, mini-NAU...
#1 You request a standard of communication within the Utube electronic borders so communication can be done "properly", yet you deny the need for a standard of communication within the more important physical borders of the United States.
#2 No-Language is not a complete unifying factor-but it is a strong one. The Kurds who speak Kurdish in northern Iraq fight with the Arabs to the south, who speak Arabic. The Kurds in northern Iraq who speak Kurdish fight the Turkish to the north who speak Turkish. #3 At least 95% of Iraq ,( including the Kurds) and 97% of Turkey hold the common Muslim religious ideolgy.
#4 Split the United States with a national border based on language? Absolutley not!!. Funny that is what comes to your mind though. ..---------I must commend you. . You are doing better at promoting the need for a unifying language than anyone here.
Ok, how about a unity ("Mini-NAU") with Canada? I thought the whole concept of the "United" States was that we could be united ("Melting Pot", and the molten ore takes on the qualities of the dominant metal, being blended from many) despite differences in languages and cultures? Of course that was before "States' Rights" started drying up.
Do you know what those Germans (and others, in that same timeframe) that immigrated here had to do to become U.S. citizens?
A: They had to sign their name on a citizenship declaration (I have a copy of my G-G-Grandfather's online; Wish I could have also done that easy step for my family)...
What developed into a slur against Italian immigrants, "WOP", originated from "WithOut Papers" (because it was so common that Italian immigrants did not have "papers")...
IBM-- Curious, what form of communication do you suggest that all Americans should use so that they can individually comprehend and understand each other across the U.S? So they can individually comprehend,lets say Politicians on their own. So that they think of themselves as unified Americans. Historically borders occur where language changes. Teddy Roosevelt understood this concept. Tell us how your concept (If you have one) is going to be different than what history has proven works.
Teddy Roosevelt made those comments late in his life, when he saw masses of Germans that had immigrated to the United States, still flying the flag of Germany and still speaking German (Wow, some interesting parallels to things today, but let's get back on topic!)...
In the Civil War (the war with the most American deaths so far) both sides spoke English...
Huh, not very "unifying" for them, an example from history...
Let's give the example of, say, a TV commercial. If it is spoken in one language, and subtitled in another, wouldn't that reach the two language groups with the same message?...
Wouldn't that help people to at least start to learn the other language a little (English subtitles are great for my wife, because even if the audio is in English, she can follow very well from the subtitles)...
Ok, does a Spanish commercial with English subtitles help a Spanish speaker to learn English?
How about TV shows in English that interest Spanish-speaking viewers, with Spanish subtitles?
Since knowledge of English is desired, a program to teach it for free, without worries of being caught for deportation (viewed as the would-be immigrant is trying to fit into the United States better, without changing its language)?
#1---IBM-You present three situations, the first two seem benign until you present the third illegal situation, which not only dams the first, but illuminates the need for the first! If they are going to be caught for deportation then they are ILLEGAL.. A situation you said you did not agree with. Then the first thing you want to do is offer something for nothing, FREE??. Who pays? How do you think Americans got to this point of irritation.
Someone is unified with us when they start speaking English, right? Which is more important, the rule of law, or a unity of a language? I'm just throwing some things out there, AND GOT YOU TO ADMIT THAT THE CONCEPT OF EARL'S COMMERCIAL "SEEM[S] BENIGN".
IBM-- Read the whole comment. And then tell me what your profit motive is regarding your position. Also what is your position? A con artist can seem benign, until their in your wallet.
I wish I were paid for my views! All three comments were phrased as questions, as a way to go back on topic (of addressing the concept of Earl's commercial in Spanish, which I support in my position, I am not employed by him, but wish I was, he sounds like a cool boss!). "They're" is the proper contraction, not "their".
IBM—come on using the civil war to illustrate language is not unifying. Bit of a stretch there. I really thought you could do better. With many languages and many immigrants I guess in your mind it's a question of all learning Spanish or English for unity, or every time a huge influx of immigrants come we all should learn their language for tolerance sake. I really thought you would be tired of arguing this subject by now.
Ok. IBM. For whatever reason, you are being evasive. Elsewhere is a big place. It takes no more time to answer the question whether you would or would not be opposed to the Spanish language as a single uniting language for the United States than it took for you to try and deflect the question.
IBM. To clarify that we are talking about the same question. You would not be opposed to the Spanish language as a single uniting language for the United States?
Look over the link I provided before. It's horrible: A girlfriend calls him a racist after he heads into her the same way as here for buying a particular beer brand. Then he posts her name and work number on the Internet, and encourages anybody to call her to say he isn't a racist.
Putting someone's name on the Internet is rather cruel but couldn't the server been contacted and deleted it.
Seems some are cruel in their actions and other in their name calling all the more reason for an honest study about the impact from illegal aliens and cultural language change has on our whole country. Nothing wrong with honest cost and impact study.
IBM-- As to my previous post (questions), I will assume that you don't want to answer, due to the adverse light it may put on your previous position of quoting law.
Why am I being questioned about quoting law as soon as you and tellusmore jump to the assumption that my family is here illegally? How is a dialog established when there are personnal attacks going on? You won't be able to trip up the truth, no matter how hard you try!
My assumption was that your family was legal. I believe you can hold duel citizenship in the U.S. and Mexico. Correct? Since you wish to be rude, I'll refer you to your own comment "There seems to be a hard time understanding just English here:"
My wife and stepchildren are not U.S. citizens (yet, but we are working on it), or I would have said so (I don't say "Mexican" or "Mexican citizen" for the heck of it). Yes, in 1998 Mexico had legislation passed that allowed those *born in Mexico* to retain their Mexican citizenship even if becoming a citizen of another country. Lastly, in the context you are using, it is "dual", not "duel" (as with pistols, I know it's a hard concept to disassociate for you).
In further definition (and my earlier posts do not contradict this) my wife and stepchildren are not even classified as "immigrant" yet. The 'K' visas are *non-immigrant*, to allow legal entry into the United States while the "alien" usually "adjusts status" to Legal Permanent Resident. Once an LPR the next path (taking years) to U.S. citizenship can be started.
IBM. EXCELLENT POINT on the diversifying/diversified cultures!!!!! Which is why you need a single Uniting Language to keep the United States united. But their will always be those who want to keep one group separated from another by one means or another, ideology?, language?. This keeps the "smart" one (and their agenda) in the middle "interpreting" for all those who just "can't" "learn", or "understand", for themselves.
IBM --- and certain Hispanic/Latino groups do anything to obstruct honest dialogue concerning taxpayer costs, job effect, crime as many illegal use fake ID's one to work, another to collect state or federal benefits, hospital, social service, and school cost.
While one commercial seems innocent, the issue is far more complex, and only one group is afraid of dialogue and accurate impact study on this issue. Disingenuous all of them.
I BMmuseum, are your kids also U.S. citizens? As you are constantly referring to laws and that laws are what you are familiar with, do you think people in the United States should be able to break the laws of their choosing? If so, what is your criteria for doing so? ---- Your quote, "All of the immigration talk I have brought up here is from the viewpoint of a legal method, as I am familiar with."
In my reply about my kids attending school in the United States I stated that they are Mexican citizens. Just as my family has followed the law, I would advise everyone else, U.S. citizen or not, to do the same. I would have thought my comments are rather easy to understand, but it seems the few "English-Only" folks here have a problem with reading comprehension, even when in English!
I BMmuseum, Are your kids also U.S. citizens? As you are constantly referring to laws and that laws are what you are familiar with, do you think people in the United States should be able to break the laws of their choosing. If so, what is you criteria for doing so?---- Your quote"All of the immigration talk I have brought up here is from the viewpoint of a legal method, as I am familiar with."
No, my wife and stepchildren are Mexican citizens. I have been a U.S. citizen from birth. In every portion of the immigration process we have followed the law, even though it took a year and a half for my family to be legally admitted to the United States.
Even while I was notified that I would be going to Iraq, for a fifth deployment (I have been in both the Army and Navy in the last 22 years)...
IBM---there you go again blurring the mix of illegal with legal residents, or those trying to become legal naturalized citizens. The influx of overwhelming illegal aliens is responsible for huge increase in dominance of Spanish in area's like las vegas, LA etc. many legal Hispanic seem indifferent or uncaring the negative effect on others, and bully their culture on others using name calling and a potential new market as their sword or righteousness.
I'm not blurring immigration at all, it is others like yourself that are lumping legal and illegal immigration together. When you holler and scream about a Social Security number being required for a driver's license, it makes life harder on my family (my wife does not currently have a SS#). If you fail to extend a hand to my family legally immigrating, allowing her to adopt a new country, you are pushing her out just like an illegal immigrant.
IBM—legal immigrant are able to get drivers license if having the right documents, depending on the state requirements. I question your statement. I have worked with hundreds of legal immigrant from everywhere with driver licenses. I thought you said your kids were illegal is your wife, question? Using profiling and other legal maneuvers Hispanic groups are able to stop us from protecting our borders. Only one group of illegal benefits from this, blurring the issue.
Thankfully we live in the state of New Mexico, where an SS# is not required for a driver's license. My wife and stepchildren are legally present in the United States under a visa type ('K') that does not provide for SS#s (that comes with work authorization). If you allude that I or my family has done anything illegal again you will have to put your money where your mouth is, in a different way than you think.
Do you want to question my military service next?...
IBM---It was a question, as I didn't remember our entire posting and is not on a hunt or wishes to put your family in harm path. We have a right as Americans to get answers to the effect language or illegal immigration has on us.
Continued for IBM --As our government and business does not represent America dealing with trade, war, taxes etc we have been hijacked and this doesn't mean dialogue is out, understanding some will not like the end result to their families but many families on both sides are caught in the middle.
While some of you say my wife and other things don't ring true, being a betting man, I can easily prove my marriage and diversified life. Possibly Earl would be a mediator if you have the balls to put $1000 dollars up I will pay two to one if anything I said about my marriage and diversity in my life is a lie. You are disrespectful possibly disingenuous in some of your claims. More and more jobs are asking Spanish for work not hard to prove. Callous of you what it does to others.
To Bonito,, IBM---go to youtube search bar type in Cohen and Grigsby, listen and learn.
Job ads are asking for Spanish speaking more and more, the demographic is mostly from illegal immigration. 10 to 20 million, which is probably a low estimate. Greedy business sending manufacturing and factory work overseas is hurting us in the long run. All this is making us less independent. Abuses of HB1 visa's and overwhelming cheap labor are hurting us.
If you have a problem with a commercial being aired in spanish. Say this quietly to yourself "I know I am racist, I can make all the excuses I want but the bottom line is that I know this commercial was for people other than illegal immigrants, but I really just want an excuse to stop the injustice of reading the only language I understand in subtitles. I fucking hope I am never def."
with that said, I really hope you never accidentally watch "Team America" in spanish
SmellThai----never heard in Team America and how pathetic of an excuse to try to silence Americans with bullying name-calling, it isn't working. Especially when many who oppose embedding Spanish lead very diversified lives and speak from maturity and experience not juvenile emotional name-calling. As far as the movie considering your show of maturity I'm sure I wouldn't be interested in a movie made for 8 years olds.
When you say "never heard in Team America" I am going to assume you meant "never heard OF Team America." Its safe to say that many people have not heard of such a movie. But then, later in your reply, you suddenly have insight into not only the movie itself, but the target age of the movie. I find that not surprising at all, simply because you seem to have much insight already on everything, ever.
Your struggle to create debates and end them is quite apparent. You have not mentioned your Mexican spouse at all during your three day tirade here on this comment section of this video but then suddenly she pops up just so you can prove a point.
Not to say you wouldnt dare lie of such a thing. But the similarities have arisen and its not hard to spot.
I'm in total agreement with you SmellyThai - From what we've seen so far for him to call his wife "Mexican" means that she has not naturalized yet. Usually someone that is going through the immigration process is more aware of it than what is at play here. Something just doesn't feel right.
I also have a Mexican spouse, legally immigrating to the United States. As I e-mailed Earl, I'm actually grateful for people like him to make my wife feel more welcome in the United States. No, it doesn't stop her from learning English, it just helps in the transition of my wife adapting to life here.
Pretty much what I am trying to say is, please leave this comment section of this poor guys video being cleverly shown in spanish.
In the entire 3 days you have been here you have pretty much discredited yourself entirely with your false facts and half truths. Pretty much the only thing you had going for you was what you copy/pasted from google.
Smellythai—I was only going on your juvenile name-calling assuming the maturity of the movie you talked about. Not hard to do. Having already spoken with Earl and don't ever wish him ill will or said anything bad about him. I did mention before living a diversified life and feel giving personal info about my life is my choice and time. As far as creating debate unless you live in a cave this is a national debate before Earl made the add.
I don't understand the outcry against the commercial at all - Watching the local Univision channel there is a few auto dealership commercials in Spanish. But I guess when it is broadcast on an English channel (with subtitles in English) there are a few that take it as an affront, and they absolutely raise hell about it. Coded messages to wake up sleeper cells for the "reconquista", radio signals for all of Latin America to mass the border, whatever.
People that hate Earl or call him names this is not right. I'm sure he is honest in his intentions to honor the Cuban/Hispanic community around him. Most likely unaware of the complexities of this issue. Many in the Hispanic community appreciate it, unfortunately there is a not so benign motive by some Hispanic and absolutely Mexico and language is part of the agendas to separate our country. Much to read on this subject and many liars on both sides.
Tcheek- If Spanish were the single uniting language of the United States would that be agreeable to you? You seem to have a prejudiced affinity for the Spanish language.
Many pro-Spanish here have great empathy for Spanish speaking struggling to learn English and nothing for Americans or non-Spanish speaking immigrants who absolutely are being forced to learn Spanish for work, many also struggle learning a language possibly not of their heritage. A deliberate denial, rather selfish when you absolutely understand nationally embedding Spanish discriminates against many. Hypocrites
Teachers in Waukeegan, workers on room cleaning crews, construction and landscape workers, fast food workers, all have reported job loss and/or hiring rejection due to lack of Spanish fluency. Tcheek is just plain wrong on when he says otherwise.
Would he turn down their money? Would he even ask or check? In my area, part of the housing bust was caused by people blatantly selling to illegals. They even had one mortgage company set up in the same office building as the CBI! That's how they got caught.
An unmitigated whore. Were I Latino I would be insulted and furious.
kiteness2 2 months ago
I just saw an article about this ad, and I think it was genius! Obviously it was trying to reach out to the Hispanic community and let them know they can feel more comfortable while buying a car, because there will be workers there that speak Spanish. It´s not ´catering´ to immigrants, just letting them know bilingual workers exist at Earl Stewart -- just as they do at many other establishments.
mereyrock 3 years ago
Speak English - this is America. Does Earl the Squirrel sell to illegals? Build the wall, speak English. Anything for a buck? I live in Wellington, Fl and will never buy a car from Earl Stewart. We have real problem with crime and illegals in South Fl. especially Lake Worth. We will definetly boycott this dealership.
jamesbeach2 3 years ago
James, you are a racist moron.
Besides, 2007 called... it wants its controversy back.
sweetwaterbonefish 3 years ago
i am not a racist - i am a patriot and our country is under attack by millions of illegal immigrants. creating a second language undermines our country. do not call me a racist sweetwater - i am now in the process of starting a boycott of earl stewert - thank you for your comment it has strentghened my resolve.
jamesbeach2 3 years ago
@jamesbeach2 ahaha wow ur fuckin dumb. automatically if you speak spanish your an illegal and a crimminal, how fucking ignorant. they should put idiotic people like you behind a wall. the united states has the second highest spanish speaking population in the world. more than Spain.
dudeonthasopha 1 year ago
@dudeonthasopha YOU ARE THE RETARD. WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND KEEP THEM OUT. THEN WE WILL SHIP THEM BACK IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL. WE WILL DRIVE THE ILLEGALS OUT. SPEAK ENGLISH. THE HELL WITH TWO LANGUAGES. SPEAK ENGLISH!
jamesbeach2 1 year ago
@jamesbeach2 around 45 million people speak spanish in the united states. and they are all legal because they are counted US citizens. and its a very small minority that dont know any english. many of them speak fluent english but some of them their spanish is still better than english. just because your in the process of learning english doesnt mean you cant be in society.US is gettin more bilingual every year and you and ur fuckin caps lock isnt gonna change shit.besides spanish is fuckin easy
dudeonthasopha 1 year ago
@jamesbeach2 ahaha wow ur fuckin dumb. automatically if you speak spanish your an illegal and a crimminal, how fucking ignorant. they should put idiotic people like you behind a wall. the united states has the second highest spanish speaking population in the world. more than Spain.
dudeonthasopha 1 year ago
Oh, and btw, your English sucks. Don't get all cocky because you know the word "education". The Spanish spelling is: educación. Funny how easy English is huh?
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
I think its disgusting that my wives ancestors (and my own) had to go through so much shit just to make a living in this country and here we go wiping illegals asses. Why don't we just abdicate and move to mexico.
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
actually learning languages isn't bad nor hard. If you can't learn nor have the education to speak more than your one and only one language then fine, but don't put that on others who appreciate education.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
Actually I love Latin flavors. My girl is of the Caribbean variety, but She speaks English first because she is an American Caribbean. I love languages of all sorts but I have a problem with paying for things I don't want e.g. commercials that exclude me as a potential buyer. Especially when I payed for the goddamned commercial.
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
I don't think you pay for commercial. Obviously you just want to exclude yourself by chosing not to learn other languages. My first language is Spanish and I don't feel excluded when I see english comercial because I KNOW English. Besides, you aren't the intented target on this commercial so let the ones who knows other languages decide which one they want to use.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
I'll exclude myself anyway I choose, I'm a Citizen. You should know English if if your in America. The intended targets already have Spanish language channels that I have to pay for on basic cable. Basic economics babe, shit rolls downhill.
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
excuse me but who the hell told you I do not speak English? I am an American citizen and I do not have to learn english because I came here, I know English because I do like education and I know languages is about education, it has nothing to do with nationality. That you are ignorant and educated is your problem. Learn Spanish and stop complaining, simple.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
Wow! Education is a four syllable word. No wonder you like it.
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
Kiehlroy, I don't give a fuck if you are citizen, I am one too and I learned English even before I ever thought of coming to the US and you know why? because unlike you, I choose to educate myself and learn other languages, it has nothing to do with nationality or immigration, i learned it cause I like education, because I am not like you who think being bilingual or trilingual is bad.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
You are an ignorant my friend, for you to think that learning Spanish is bad or any other langugage, how ignorant can you be??
and for your information, this is a free country and you have no fucking right to impose no language on anybody (eventought I agree with everybody learning as they become BILINGUALS not simple MONOLINGUALS like you) and how hypocrit can you be? did your ancestors learn CHEROKEE when they came here???
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
haha poor gringo MONOLINGUAL and gets mad when others speak other languages....gringo imbecil who the fuck are you to tell me not to speak my language?? learn, get educated like the one on this video gringo IGNORANTE DE MIERDA , CHUPA PINGAS.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
How stereotypical of you to lose tour Latin temper and start the name calling. I was actually enjoying our debate till you felt disadvantaged and became uncivil. You're a fool because you've made completely erroneous assumptions about my opinions on foreign cultures and languages.
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
well not everyone is an Amrerican caribbean and as far as I know the US doesn't own any Caribbean island. First, I don't think you are paying for these commercials. Second, nobody is excluding you, you are EXCLUDING yourself by not learning other languages. Third, the fact that you are a monolingual doesn't give you the right to stop others, specially bilinguals like me, to use the languages they know. Fourth, you are obviously not the intented target here.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
What does the U.S. owning Carribean islands have to do with anything? Who said I was monolingual?
Nobody said they were going to prevent you from speaking Spanish?
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
Fifth, maybe if you educated yourself better and learn some other language other than your native you wouldn't be that frustrated when others speak several languages.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
I'm educated, actually:) Maybe if Spanish speaking immigrants were more proficient in their own language English wouldn't be so hard for them to learn. About 60% of the English language is Latin based, BTW. I actually took Latin in school and I read all Romance languages functionally. Also I lived in Mexico for a couple years so I speak Spanish well enough. In my line of work I regularly have to translate for people who have never read a book in Spanish let alone in English. Está todo ocupado!
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
well too bad that you stereotype every Spanish speaking immigrant but I am not surprised to hear that from an ignorant bigot. Maybe all you attract are ppl who have never read a book because they see as them. In fact, I am Spanish speaker and I am proficient in both Spanish and English and my english is fact is better than your Spanish.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
Too bad you are such an ignorant who stereotype everyone by the language they speak. Actually if you were educated and openminded, you would now the ones you work with do not represent the whole LatinAmerica as well as how I know how bigots and ignorants like you that I come across everyday do not represent the whole American population. Learn some languages and get educated instead of sitting on your butt complaining why the world speak other languages.
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
NAH, go back to europe and that should do it...
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
I thought Europe was your next destination?
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
Where you've been, Fred? C'mon..let's go!
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
IBM- You just don't get it do you. Your only position is to argue. This line preceds what you quote. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!". It means, send us the people you treat poorly, send to this land of opportunity your opportunity seekers, your freedom seekers, "your masses yearning to breathe free."
fred13red 4 years ago
#2-IBM- Keep your pomp. Keep your oppressive ways, keep the culture that oppressed your people.--- Every single American is the custodian of the American dream, past present and future. Freedom in a form unknown to mankind prior to America is handed to each generation of Americans
fred13red 4 years ago
Note- #2 is not addressed to IBM. it is a continuation. It's Lady Liberty to "ancient lands".
fred13red 4 years ago
But exclude someone if they don't come from "ancient lands"? You're rambling now, talking before of a "unifying" language, but unwilling to unify with English (and French)-speaking Canadians. If it is our job to expand that freedom, aren't more people, and more lands under that freedom a better thing?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM- What???? what are you talking about? Are you saying that Canada wants to become an American state?
fred13red 4 years ago
It is our job to protect, maintain and advance that freedom in its purist form for the future. How sad will it be if America is divided while American freedom is diluted and lost on this generations watch? Lost due to the complacency we were guilted into.
fred13red 4 years ago
#4-Unknown and pompous tyrants and despots would love to apply reinvented divine rule through the whole of North America. The only thing in the way is, Americans.
fred13red 4 years ago
I think what you are trying to say in all of this is that you are afraid America is losing its identity. Identities change over time, and that has been the case in America's past too. But I think your vision is locked in a little tight in some areas that doesn't allow reality in.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
#1-IBM- My passion for America is not born of fear. My passion is a derivative of the Respect and Honor I hold for those Americans who came before me. The ones, the many, who paid with their blood, their sweat, their passion and with their sacred honor, their very lives, to protect what all Americans and the world receive the benefit of today.
fred13red 4 years ago
#2--America has a very strong identity. America is and always has been a beacon of hope for the individual freedom seeker. The people of the world know this, and know what America represents, even as they parrot the power hungry tyrants of their region.
fred13red 4 years ago
#3--Americans, in their quest to help others in the world have allowed their high level of giving, kindness and tolerance to become fertilizer for intolerance and incivility toward America and the American culture of freedom
fred13red 4 years ago
#4--The reality is that a very large group of illegal immigrants in America today receive the benefits of what America built. Yet they have no idea how the opportunities came to be available to them in America. They don't know the prices paid by previous generations of Americans for the opportunities they now have.
fred13red 4 years ago
#5 Most of the illegal immigrants don't know the American culture of freedom, because that knowledge, that pride and that understanding of that freedom, comes from knowledge embedded in American English.
fred13red 4 years ago
#6--When these immigrants come to America seeking freedom and opportunity, and they then pilfer such things as our health care system, break laws, illegally seek benefits, all the while carrying a foreign flag, carrying a foreign allegiance and denouncing America and Americans in a foreign language on American soil.......Well I call that biting the hand that feeds you,,,, and that hand, is the hand of freedom!
fred13red 4 years ago
haha man and lets ask the indians what they think about that, how bias u are for real....
LatinDelicious 4 years ago
Funny you should say so dumbass. My grandfather is COMANCHE. From Tejas!
Kiehlroy 4 years ago
This is great material for a humane view of what immigration is. And it was written in a lower immigration standard. Some would have it appear that America just wants only the rich (to be able to afford increased immigration fees) and the patient (to wait all of the years to become a citizen) now.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Sorry, sorry, sorry: one more shot at Fred. I checked out the posts Fred has sprinkled across the Internet. This man has a LOT of opinions. He is so very, very sure of himself. Ah sweet anonymity, you give us the balls we never had. You make a man like Fred, an inconsequential, little man feel he has a voice in this world. Thank you anonymity. Thank you.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
Something really interesting: Google Fred13red. This nut is all over the place! Forget about time spent on YouTube, Fred is a professional forum poster. He has also attacked Earl Stewart in the past on Earl's blog. Obsess much Freddy? See you in a few days...
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
On another note, where's the outrage over Dora the Explorer? I walked into my living room this morning and my poor kids were being exposed to SPANISH!!! HORRORS! AAAAAHHHH!!!!
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
Sweetwaterbonehead---no one is outraged at Dora or at the Spanish language. We are outraged that a language other than English is being embedded for work favoring one group of people with a huge population of illegal aliens, discriminating against non-Spanish speaking legal immigrant and citizens. Dismissive as many racist pro Spanish embedding are, there will be dialogue, and we will never agree, as one side is completely intolerant, and patronizing.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Beg to differ: tinyurl(dot)com/2fnq7h
And go down a few posts...
Yes, the post with "The Hell with that, give em a .45 to the head and deport the carcas..."
Pretty intolerant if you ask me...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM
If you're upset that some are violent in nature I can't help them. It is a sign of frustration in some and possibly worse. Just as we are upset that some illegals claim they are taking back land rightfully theirs and also hate whites. As far a Dora it could be interpreted as an effort to immerse our young to Spanish, but embedding Spanish is happening and some don't want anything said. Sounds like many are fed up, what is it you have against dialogue.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Ask your wife what the term "Chicano" means. It actually fits her closer than "Mexican". Then figure out who the term Chicano excludes (we aren't just talking about Caucasians).
I'd actually like a little more dialog about how the U.S. will lose territory, but I don't know if this is the right forum for what that entails...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM—If I asked my wife what chicano means she would look at me like I'm nuts and so would her parents. It's never been a big subject for us to run around with labels of our ancestry. She is an American of Mexican ancestry who's heritage is U.S. which is a mix of culture's and she has a right to celebrate any culture she wants, my Italian, German or Mexican and it doesn't make her any less Mexican or Hispanic. Polarize and label till your heart content.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I don't know you, and I'm already looking at you like you are nuts sometimes, and some times with admiration. Wikipedia has a good (but varied) definition, as it can differ slightly by region and the context used. Bonus points for looking at "pocho" there too.
You see, we already have you speaking a little Spanish...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
"...who's heritage is U.S. which is a mix of cultures and she has a right to celebrate any culture she wants..."
Right on! I like these words! Are you sure it won't be in a dispute with Fred?
I would also say it doesn't make her any less of an American too...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM—The U.S. will not lose territory but there are many in three governments that want to make a union, and Mexico feels it can gain a control of some territory it lost through bad sales and war from years ago.
tellusmore 4 years ago
IBM—As far as Lady Liberty the words still ring true. 39% of pop growth in last 30 years from immigration. 6 million legally enter and 2 ½ million become citizens yearly.
Maybe for some we should add the words, come here illegally, use fake or stolen ID's, drive without license or insurance, overburden hospitals, social services and call everyone else names acting all self-righteous as you wave another country's flag.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Meaning that 61% was from non-immigrant population growth. If 6 million enter, why is there a disparity of only a fraction becoming citizens? It is a mistruth to compare today with an older timeframe of no immigration law, no work authorization needed, no cars, and many of the programs that weren't in place as today.
Teddy Roosevelt said his words, because he saw the problems at that time too...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM—not all who legally immigrate here become citizens, but many are legal immigrants, I don't know how long they are allowed to stay I'm assuming some can stay many years. If nuts is being frustrated that I see a double standard dealing with protecting what I believe is my culture and language, or those who support rewarding anyone for breaking laws then I'm nuts. Again it all a very complex issue and only some want silence.
tellusmore 4 years ago
If it is a ten year greencard (in the case of being married to a U.S. citizen, that is after their two year anniversary) it can be renewed further. Here you say "my culture", but a post ago it was that "many" cultures were in the United States. Which "rewards" are you saying for breaking laws?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM---while it's all right to accuse English-speaking whites of not understanding other cultures, they also act like we have no culture; food, language, and we are not allowed to even discus the fact of our culture being pushed aside, in order to celebrate the others.
See just a question. Illegal immigration is ingrained with the Spanish language issue..
tellusmore 4 years ago
But you say your wife can celebrate whichever culture she chooses. Isn't that a double standard when you won't allow others the same freedom? Sounds like you have a need for dialog right in your own household.
I will strongly disagree that Spanish is linked to illegal immigration. It's interesting to listen to xeno forums, where someone speaking Spanish is instantly defined as an illegal.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Have to go, got to cook dinner wife never cooks, because I like to eat good food.
tellusmore 4 years ago
There's issues there, and it really sounds like you are knocking her abilities down. Treat your wife with respect. More Spanish for you, her name will now be "Te Amo" from you. If you do follow that advise you will find out what it means.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM --You're not the first to use globalization, victimization, and discrimination to bully a lopsided agenda. While there is truth that racism is real, as far as illegal immigration and the embedding of Spanish, it is absolutely reverse discrimination using slick propaganda. As far as my wife you know nothing about her, so let me tell she is a professional making a great living and if anything I have helped reach her goals. Understand Doc.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I think the disparity between legal immigration and naturalization need a study of its own. For someone legally immigrating, you would think an end goal would be citizenship. Something (and the statistics are before the fees went up at the end of July) is holding a majority back each year.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM--- I'm only going on personal experience dealing in working conditions where employers hire hundreds of illegals and how intolerant and disrespectful they treat non-Spanish speaking co-workers, so to insinuate only English speaking are using language as a discriminating weapon is not what I personally and others have experienced.
tellusmore 4 years ago
IBM--Illegals are not innocent victims of white racist. You are starting to bore me when you try to play attorney and psychotherapist. Let me ask did you go to the Vegas RJ and read the article by Jane Ann Morrison, or check out the video on Youtube of Cohen and Grigsby. We have a problem with big business exploiting legal and illegal and the end result destroys our standard of life. Look at the video and if it doesn't concern you I know who the intolerant one is here.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I'm looking a little ahead of dialog - I want people to think of what dialog they will use, before they start talking. So far I see agendas on either side, and quite a bit of mistruths and misunderstandings. Again, I don't think that this is a forum for that discussion.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Sweetwaterbonehead---no one is outraged at Dora or at the Spanish language. We are outraged that a language other than English is being embedded for work favoring one group of people with a huge population of illegal aliens, discriminating against non-Spanish speaking legal immigrant and citizens. Dismissive as many racist pro Spanish embedding are there will be dialogue, and we will never agree, as one side is completely intolerant, and patronizing.
tellusmore 4 years ago
That's MISTER Sweetwaterbonehead to you. Outrage is for unhappy people with bugs up their asses. Just following you and Fred13 the Psycho bitching (however eloquently on your part)for over a week makes my skin crawl. You don't represent America, you represent the cranky fringe. You and Fred really do need to get up from your computer more often and live a little.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
here
fred13red 4 years ago
...and before you tell me the sky is falling, use your considerable smarts to do a little reflection on all the other immigrant scares the country has suffered in its history. Also reflect on the other various cultural doomsdays reactionaries like you and Fred have prostyletized about since the beginning of time.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
sweetwaterbonefish---sorry my writing skills and juvenile humor collide allot. Has any recent immigrant language been embedded across the country for work like Spanish? When Mexico's president states more illegals will come no matter what, don't you believe losing your youngest most likely able to build a country is bad. Many jobs in the west speak only Spanish, even though to be a citizen you must have a basic knowledge of English and they don't.
tellusmore 4 years ago
sweetwaterbonefish---it's hardly a cranky fringe as Arizona and other states voted to end benefits to illegals winning by large numbers.. Many states voted to make English the state language all passed easily, only to be challenged in court.. The cranky fringe seems to be greedy business exploiting illegals and citizens and the pro-illegal alien Spanish speaking as the majority have spoken many times. My life is filled with diversity. I don't have to buy bull shit to look tolerant.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Unless you're doing some serious public service out there I'm not aware of, you're just a critical pamphleteer on YouTube. That qualifies you for the cranky fringe.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
fithlywaterbonehead—
wife and I have attended immigration forums race relation meetings, and more. Why I would even take time to tell you is because like some others you feel name-calling will stop honest dialogue on this subject. Those of us who live a diversified life don't have to buy into bullshit to feel tolerant. Oh yea sorry about the juvenile humor again. Cranky fringes like to call names like xenophobic, bigot and others.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I'm sure you and Wife are out there changing the world. Let me know how you're coming along with that.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
I'm sure you and Wife are out there changing the world.... Let me know how you're coming along with that.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
bonefish
One common thing the I'm oh-so tolerant actors do is call names, if that doesn't work dismiss people or real stats on things they disagree with. While we are making our own small impact, at least it's honest and without agendas bullying our own intolerant agendas that ends up favoring one group of people or immigrant mostly illegal.
tellusmore 4 years ago
"Small impact"... I think you're exaggerating.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
bonehead, humor, I like that, let me know what great impact and event changes you have tried for actor...
tellusmore 4 years ago
Back early I see, ehh SWB. For the edikated 1+1 = 2. Two is a couple. Your back in less than 24 Hrs, thats less than one. The real world kick ya to the curb?
fred13red 4 years ago
Name calling like "Mexican" when it is reference to a Hispanic U.S. citizen only descended from Mexicans? Wonder whom that was? Someone mentioned in your posts?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
#1--SWB--I believe we did reflect on a previous immigrant problem. Matter of fact, the other champion of low immigrant expectations (IBM) is the one who described it. It was handled correctly by Teddy Roosevelt, no week-kneed pandering, no praising of the culture
that they left behind, but a reminder of the culture they (by choice) came to.
fred13red 4 years ago
#2-A reminder to join and protect the country they chose. A reminder to learn the American culture, the culture of freedom. And to learn the language that freedom was developed in, English. Teddy Roosevelt's high expectations of immigrants unified America. Pretentious pandering of immigrants by social beguilers will fracture American unity.
fred13red 4 years ago
"Many Mexican immigrants argue they are no different from Cubans and are also escaping from
oppression and poverty." Quote from Yahoo news.10-15-2007
fred13red 4 years ago
Lady Liberty set the bar pretty low when she said "poor", "tired", "homeless", and worse, "wretched refuse of your teeming shore". And boy did we get them, and still do. But we also got (and continue to get) a majority of hard working folks that made the United States (and continue to build it up).
You want to hang a "No Vacancy" sign over the top of that now?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Wow! This still going on! IBM - you're too kind. Fred13 (being the stalwart defender of the English language that he is) has butchered English syntax and grammar far more than his grade-school level mis-use of contractions. This seems to be a theme here: the anti-immigration crowd (particularly the most vituperative) seem to be the least educated.
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
SWB+ IBM--Ahhh, a response from the vitiated, when content is lacking in your position, look for presentation errors. Then deliver a castigating review on syntax and grammar usage. In an attempt to censure all but your own views you have illuminated the turgid and pompous view you have of yourselves. Again, as previously, rules are quoted from one side of the sophist's mouth, while a "blind eye attitude" is delivered from the other.
fred13red 4 years ago
Fred must have a smart friend... you only have two lifelines left, Freddy! The best thing about you F13R is that you spend all your time debating phantoms on a YouTube site about a stupid car dealer ad. At least you are not actually affecting the real world. The phrase "get a life" keeps coming to mind. I'll check back in a few days for your sassy little comeback (after I take care of some things in the real world)
sweetwaterbonefish 4 years ago
IBM- Your rambling. And at each post you make the point stronger and stronger for the concept of a single unifying language for the United States. Which was already established as a concept until recently. You also make a VERY strong point for EVERYONE following the rules,laws and tax codes of this country. The ones they and/or their elected politicians voted for.---------------------------------You said you wanted to get back on topic. Identify the topic.
fred13red 4 years ago
Perfect example IBM-"Teddy Roosevelt made those comments late in his life, when he saw masses of Germans that had immigrated to the United States, still flying the flag of Germany and still speaking German (Wow, some interesting parallels to things today, but let's get back on topic!)..." And the topic is?
fred13red 4 years ago
Can you learn how to correctly reply to a comment, so YouTube can thread it properly?...
Language is not a complete unifying factor, idealogy is...
In Iraq they share a common language...
Are you saying there should be a border north of the southwestern United States?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
A common language is not enough to have my grandmother, mother, and sister use that language across single generational gaps for unity...
My wife and I, with different primary languages, but each learning the other, are so unified that you can't get a piece of paper between us some of the time...
Heck, let's merge with Canada (at least there isn't a wall on *that* border for America's "safety"), Hello, mini-NAU...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
#1 You request a standard of communication within the Utube electronic borders so communication can be done "properly", yet you deny the need for a standard of communication within the more important physical borders of the United States.
fred13red 4 years ago
#2 No-Language is not a complete unifying factor-but it is a strong one. The Kurds who speak Kurdish in northern Iraq fight with the Arabs to the south, who speak Arabic. The Kurds in northern Iraq who speak Kurdish fight the Turkish to the north who speak Turkish. #3 At least 95% of Iraq ,( including the Kurds) and 97% of Turkey hold the common Muslim religious ideolgy.
fred13red 4 years ago
And the Shitte fight with the Sunnis, sharing a common language, but differing sects of Islamic *theology*...
Since we are on the concept of language = national borders, does Kurdistan need to be a separate country?
You didn't say anything about the U.S. Civil War, our own example in all of this...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
#4 Split the United States with a national border based on language? Absolutley not!!. Funny that is what comes to your mind though. ..---------I must commend you. . You are doing better at promoting the need for a unifying language than anyone here.
fred13red 4 years ago
Ok, how about a unity ("Mini-NAU") with Canada? I thought the whole concept of the "United" States was that we could be united ("Melting Pot", and the molten ore takes on the qualities of the dominant metal, being blended from many) despite differences in languages and cultures? Of course that was before "States' Rights" started drying up.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
It took some time for all those Germans to merge in, but they did eventually (I don't speak German)...
Do you know what it took for the Germans (and others, in that timeframe) to *immigrate* to the United States?
A: They had to come here.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Do you know what those Germans (and others, in that same timeframe) that immigrated here had to do to become U.S. citizens?
A: They had to sign their name on a citizenship declaration (I have a copy of my G-G-Grandfather's online; Wish I could have also done that easy step for my family)...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
What developed into a slur against Italian immigrants, "WOP", originated from "WithOut Papers" (because it was so common that Italian immigrants did not have "papers")...
Meaning "Undocumented"...
Sound a bit familiar in the present day?...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM-- Curious, what form of communication do you suggest that all Americans should use so that they can individually comprehend and understand each other across the U.S? So they can individually comprehend,lets say Politicians on their own. So that they think of themselves as unified Americans. Historically borders occur where language changes. Teddy Roosevelt understood this concept. Tell us how your concept (If you have one) is going to be different than what history has proven works.
fred13red 4 years ago
Teddy Roosevelt made those comments late in his life, when he saw masses of Germans that had immigrated to the United States, still flying the flag of Germany and still speaking German (Wow, some interesting parallels to things today, but let's get back on topic!)...
In the Civil War (the war with the most American deaths so far) both sides spoke English...
Huh, not very "unifying" for them, an example from history...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Let's give the example of, say, a TV commercial. If it is spoken in one language, and subtitled in another, wouldn't that reach the two language groups with the same message?...
Wouldn't that help people to at least start to learn the other language a little (English subtitles are great for my wife, because even if the audio is in English, she can follow very well from the subtitles)...
Isn't that what Earl is doing?...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM--You wanted to get back on topic. Identify the topic.
fred13red 4 years ago
Ok, does a Spanish commercial with English subtitles help a Spanish speaker to learn English?
How about TV shows in English that interest Spanish-speaking viewers, with Spanish subtitles?
Since knowledge of English is desired, a program to teach it for free, without worries of being caught for deportation (viewed as the would-be immigrant is trying to fit into the United States better, without changing its language)?
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
#1---IBM-You present three situations, the first two seem benign until you present the third illegal situation, which not only dams the first, but illuminates the need for the first! If they are going to be caught for deportation then they are ILLEGAL.. A situation you said you did not agree with. Then the first thing you want to do is offer something for nothing, FREE??. Who pays? How do you think Americans got to this point of irritation.
fred13red 4 years ago
Someone is unified with us when they start speaking English, right? Which is more important, the rule of law, or a unity of a language? I'm just throwing some things out there, AND GOT YOU TO ADMIT THAT THE CONCEPT OF EARL'S COMMERCIAL "SEEM[S] BENIGN".
So why are you still complaining?...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM-- Read the whole comment. And then tell me what your profit motive is regarding your position. Also what is your position? A con artist can seem benign, until their in your wallet.
fred13red 4 years ago
I wish I were paid for my views! All three comments were phrased as questions, as a way to go back on topic (of addressing the concept of Earl's commercial in Spanish, which I support in my position, I am not employed by him, but wish I was, he sounds like a cool boss!). "They're" is the proper contraction, not "their".
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM—come on using the civil war to illustrate language is not unifying. Bit of a stretch there. I really thought you could do better. With many languages and many immigrants I guess in your mind it's a question of all learning Spanish or English for unity, or every time a huge influx of immigrants come we all should learn their language for tolerance sake. I really thought you would be tired of arguing this subject by now.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Is it the concept of a single unifying language you don't support or is it just the Spanish language in that position you don't support?
fred13red 4 years ago
I don't support either concept...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM you commented on a question. You gave no answer.
fred13red 4 years ago
No, I would not support Spanish being used as the overall dominant language of the United States...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Evasive again. It is a simple question.
fred13red 4 years ago
Somebody please read English for Fred, he's just trying to be difficult...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
I said:
"We can't even be united on a commercial in Spanish with subtitles in English...
Why is it only those transitions that are opposed, crossing to the territory of being played on an English channel, not a Spanish one?..
My take is that both English and Spanish viewers both understood Earl's commercial at the same time..."
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Ok. IBM. For whatever reason, you are being evasive. Elsewhere is a big place. It takes no more time to answer the question whether you would or would not be opposed to the Spanish language as a single uniting language for the United States than it took for you to try and deflect the question.
fred13red 4 years ago
Elsewhere *on the page*:
We can't even be united on a commercial in Spanish with subtitles in English...
Why is it only those transitions that are opposed, crossing to the territory of being played on an English channel, not a Spanish one?..
My take is that both English and Spanish viewers both understood Earl's commercial at the same time...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM. To clarify that we are talking about the same question. You would not be opposed to the Spanish language as a single uniting language for the United States?
fred13red 4 years ago
Again, answered elsewhere. Please try and keep up. I am sure spending a lot of time clarifying things to English speakers here...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
hahahaha, dragon5 gave up?
well...
BonitoSoccer8 4 years ago
Look over the link I provided before. It's horrible: A girlfriend calls him a racist after he heads into her the same way as here for buying a particular beer brand. Then he posts her name and work number on the Internet, and encourages anybody to call her to say he isn't a racist.
What a piece of work...
Poor girl...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Putting someone's name on the Internet is rather cruel but couldn't the server been contacted and deleted it.
Seems some are cruel in their actions and other in their name calling all the more reason for an honest study about the impact from illegal aliens and cultural language change has on our whole country. Nothing wrong with honest cost and impact study.
tellusmore 4 years ago
A "moderator" (pun intended) removed it from the forum, with no repercussions to his account...
He violated their forum policy, but since he thought like them, they didn't penalize him for it...
Some *did* call her, who knows if she left the job after that...
Maybe quite an "impact" and "cost" on her life, but he could justify it in his own mind as caused by "illegal immigrants" for her stance with him...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
The single, most-burning question I have at this point is where "Dragon5" went...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM maybe you missed this,--I said uniting not official. Would you oppose Spanish as the uniting language of the United states?
fred13red 4 years ago
No, it's answered above (or below, depending how you are viewing things), please try to keep organized...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Sorry, the comments don't seem to be coming up in the same order all the time. Comments and sub comments.
fred13red 4 years ago
Yes, please try to be a little bit more organized...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM-- As to my previous post (questions), I will assume that you don't want to answer, due to the adverse light it may put on your previous position of quoting law.
fred13red 4 years ago
Why am I being questioned about quoting law as soon as you and tellusmore jump to the assumption that my family is here illegally? How is a dialog established when there are personnal attacks going on? You won't be able to trip up the truth, no matter how hard you try!
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
My assumption was that your family was legal. I believe you can hold duel citizenship in the U.S. and Mexico. Correct? Since you wish to be rude, I'll refer you to your own comment "There seems to be a hard time understanding just English here:"
fred13red 4 years ago
My wife and stepchildren are not U.S. citizens (yet, but we are working on it), or I would have said so (I don't say "Mexican" or "Mexican citizen" for the heck of it). Yes, in 1998 Mexico had legislation passed that allowed those *born in Mexico* to retain their Mexican citizenship even if becoming a citizen of another country. Lastly, in the context you are using, it is "dual", not "duel" (as with pistols, I know it's a hard concept to disassociate for you).
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
In further definition (and my earlier posts do not contradict this) my wife and stepchildren are not even classified as "immigrant" yet. The 'K' visas are *non-immigrant*, to allow legal entry into the United States while the "alien" usually "adjusts status" to Legal Permanent Resident. Once an LPR the next path (taking years) to U.S. citizenship can be started.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM. EXCELLENT POINT on the diversifying/diversified cultures!!!!! Which is why you need a single Uniting Language to keep the United States united. But their will always be those who want to keep one group separated from another by one means or another, ideology?, language?. This keeps the "smart" one (and their agenda) in the middle "interpreting" for all those who just "can't" "learn", or "understand", for themselves.
fred13red 4 years ago
There seems to be a hard time understanding just English here:
The United States does not have an "Official Language"...
There can be U.S. citizens or legal immigrants that don't know, and aren't required to know one *lick* of English...
The concept of sharing a culture based only on the English language is false...
Earl is doing just fine to have commercials in Spanish, with English subtitles...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
I said uniting not official. Would you oppose Spanish as the uniting language of the United states?
fred13red 4 years ago
We can't even be united on a commercial in Spanish with subtitles in English...
Why is it only those transitions that are opposed, crossing to the territory of being played on an English channel, not a Spanish one?..
My take is that both English and Spanish viewers both understood Earl's commercial at the same time...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM --- and certain Hispanic/Latino groups do anything to obstruct honest dialogue concerning taxpayer costs, job effect, crime as many illegal use fake ID's one to work, another to collect state or federal benefits, hospital, social service, and school cost.
While one commercial seems innocent, the issue is far more complex, and only one group is afraid of dialogue and accurate impact study on this issue. Disingenuous all of them.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I BMmuseum, are your kids also U.S. citizens? As you are constantly referring to laws and that laws are what you are familiar with, do you think people in the United States should be able to break the laws of their choosing? If so, what is your criteria for doing so? ---- Your quote, "All of the immigration talk I have brought up here is from the viewpoint of a legal method, as I am familiar with."
fred13red 4 years ago
In my reply about my kids attending school in the United States I stated that they are Mexican citizens. Just as my family has followed the law, I would advise everyone else, U.S. citizen or not, to do the same. I would have thought my comments are rather easy to understand, but it seems the few "English-Only" folks here have a problem with reading comprehension, even when in English!
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
I BMmuseum, Are your kids also U.S. citizens? As you are constantly referring to laws and that laws are what you are familiar with, do you think people in the United States should be able to break the laws of their choosing. If so, what is you criteria for doing so?---- Your quote"All of the immigration talk I have brought up here is from the viewpoint of a legal method, as I am familiar with."
fred13red 4 years ago
No, my wife and stepchildren are Mexican citizens. I have been a U.S. citizen from birth. In every portion of the immigration process we have followed the law, even though it took a year and a half for my family to be legally admitted to the United States.
Even while I was notified that I would be going to Iraq, for a fifth deployment (I have been in both the Army and Navy in the last 22 years)...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM---there you go again blurring the mix of illegal with legal residents, or those trying to become legal naturalized citizens. The influx of overwhelming illegal aliens is responsible for huge increase in dominance of Spanish in area's like las vegas, LA etc. many legal Hispanic seem indifferent or uncaring the negative effect on others, and bully their culture on others using name calling and a potential new market as their sword or righteousness.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I'm not blurring immigration at all, it is others like yourself that are lumping legal and illegal immigration together. When you holler and scream about a Social Security number being required for a driver's license, it makes life harder on my family (my wife does not currently have a SS#). If you fail to extend a hand to my family legally immigrating, allowing her to adopt a new country, you are pushing her out just like an illegal immigrant.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM—legal immigrant are able to get drivers license if having the right documents, depending on the state requirements. I question your statement. I have worked with hundreds of legal immigrant from everywhere with driver licenses. I thought you said your kids were illegal is your wife, question? Using profiling and other legal maneuvers Hispanic groups are able to stop us from protecting our borders. Only one group of illegal benefits from this, blurring the issue.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Thankfully we live in the state of New Mexico, where an SS# is not required for a driver's license. My wife and stepchildren are legally present in the United States under a visa type ('K') that does not provide for SS#s (that comes with work authorization). If you allude that I or my family has done anything illegal again you will have to put your money where your mouth is, in a different way than you think.
Do you want to question my military service next?...
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
IBM---It was a question, as I didn't remember our entire posting and is not on a hunt or wishes to put your family in harm path. We have a right as Americans to get answers to the effect language or illegal immigration has on us.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Continued for IBM --As our government and business does not represent America dealing with trade, war, taxes etc we have been hijacked and this doesn't mean dialogue is out, understanding some will not like the end result to their families but many families on both sides are caught in the middle.
tellusmore 4 years ago
While some of you say my wife and other things don't ring true, being a betting man, I can easily prove my marriage and diversified life. Possibly Earl would be a mediator if you have the balls to put $1000 dollars up I will pay two to one if anything I said about my marriage and diversity in my life is a lie. You are disrespectful possibly disingenuous in some of your claims. More and more jobs are asking Spanish for work not hard to prove. Callous of you what it does to others.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Tellusmore, I have not seen the first job, where they force anyone to learn spanish!
BonitoSoccer8 4 years ago
To Bonito,, IBM---go to youtube search bar type in Cohen and Grigsby, listen and learn.
Job ads are asking for Spanish speaking more and more, the demographic is mostly from illegal immigration. 10 to 20 million, which is probably a low estimate. Greedy business sending manufacturing and factory work overseas is hurting us in the long run. All this is making us less independent. Abuses of HB1 visa's and overwhelming cheap labor are hurting us.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Check it out.
If you have a problem with a commercial being aired in spanish. Say this quietly to yourself "I know I am racist, I can make all the excuses I want but the bottom line is that I know this commercial was for people other than illegal immigrants, but I really just want an excuse to stop the injustice of reading the only language I understand in subtitles. I fucking hope I am never def."
with that said, I really hope you never accidentally watch "Team America" in spanish
SmellyThai 4 years ago
SmellThai----never heard in Team America and how pathetic of an excuse to try to silence Americans with bullying name-calling, it isn't working. Especially when many who oppose embedding Spanish lead very diversified lives and speak from maturity and experience not juvenile emotional name-calling. As far as the movie considering your show of maturity I'm sure I wouldn't be interested in a movie made for 8 years olds.
tellusmore 4 years ago
When you say "never heard in Team America" I am going to assume you meant "never heard OF Team America." Its safe to say that many people have not heard of such a movie. But then, later in your reply, you suddenly have insight into not only the movie itself, but the target age of the movie. I find that not surprising at all, simply because you seem to have much insight already on everything, ever.
SmellyThai 4 years ago
Your struggle to create debates and end them is quite apparent. You have not mentioned your Mexican spouse at all during your three day tirade here on this comment section of this video but then suddenly she pops up just so you can prove a point.
Not to say you wouldnt dare lie of such a thing. But the similarities have arisen and its not hard to spot.
SmellyThai 4 years ago
I'm in total agreement with you SmellyThai - From what we've seen so far for him to call his wife "Mexican" means that she has not naturalized yet. Usually someone that is going through the immigration process is more aware of it than what is at play here. Something just doesn't feel right.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
I also have a Mexican spouse, legally immigrating to the United States. As I e-mailed Earl, I'm actually grateful for people like him to make my wife feel more welcome in the United States. No, it doesn't stop her from learning English, it just helps in the transition of my wife adapting to life here.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
Pretty much what I am trying to say is, please leave this comment section of this poor guys video being cleverly shown in spanish.
In the entire 3 days you have been here you have pretty much discredited yourself entirely with your false facts and half truths. Pretty much the only thing you had going for you was what you copy/pasted from google.
SmellyThai 4 years ago
Smellythai—I was only going on your juvenile name-calling assuming the maturity of the movie you talked about. Not hard to do. Having already spoken with Earl and don't ever wish him ill will or said anything bad about him. I did mention before living a diversified life and feel giving personal info about my life is my choice and time. As far as creating debate unless you live in a cave this is a national debate before Earl made the add.
Just stick to calling names, you'll feel better.
tellusmore 4 years ago
I don't understand the outcry against the commercial at all - Watching the local Univision channel there is a few auto dealership commercials in Spanish. But I guess when it is broadcast on an English channel (with subtitles in English) there are a few that take it as an affront, and they absolutely raise hell about it. Coded messages to wake up sleeper cells for the "reconquista", radio signals for all of Latin America to mass the border, whatever.
IBMMuseum 4 years ago
People that hate Earl or call him names this is not right. I'm sure he is honest in his intentions to honor the Cuban/Hispanic community around him. Most likely unaware of the complexities of this issue. Many in the Hispanic community appreciate it, unfortunately there is a not so benign motive by some Hispanic and absolutely Mexico and language is part of the agendas to separate our country. Much to read on this subject and many liars on both sides.
tellusmore 4 years ago
Tcheek- If Spanish were the single uniting language of the United States would that be agreeable to you? You seem to have a prejudiced affinity for the Spanish language.
fred13red 4 years ago
Many pro-Spanish here have great empathy for Spanish speaking struggling to learn English and nothing for Americans or non-Spanish speaking immigrants who absolutely are being forced to learn Spanish for work, many also struggle learning a language possibly not of their heritage. A deliberate denial, rather selfish when you absolutely understand nationally embedding Spanish discriminates against many. Hypocrites
tellusmore 4 years ago
Teachers in Waukeegan, workers on room cleaning crews, construction and landscape workers, fast food workers, all have reported job loss and/or hiring rejection due to lack of Spanish fluency. Tcheek is just plain wrong on when he says otherwise.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Would he turn down their money? Would he even ask or check? In my area, part of the housing bust was caused by people blatantly selling to illegals. They even had one mortgage company set up in the same office building as the CBI! That's how they got caught.
LordElvis666 4 years ago