FASTRA - Official Movie - English - Shorter Version

[NoNiceNamesLeft]

i'm such an asshole when i started lmao within the first 10 seconds.

[aleemkirk]

they have such a powerful pc and their O.S. is xp

[sniperdoc8404]

Can I just say this is a fantastic video demonstrating the use of CUDA technology. I use it to show to all developers of our software that might benefit from it.

[kkjgg112391]

Put thirteen tesla c2070s in that thing and you'll be done in a matter of minutes I'm sure.

[ashinms]

@kkjgg112391 tesla actually wouldnt be optimal for this. gaming cards with dual gpus offer a better density of processing power

[HatefulXD]

5:12 ehhhhhhhhh!!!! ROFLMAO, I love u guys and girl (L).

[dunlrock]

So.... four HD5970s = 12800 stream processors.... holy shit

[dfsa90]

Would have been better if it had 4 Asus ares.

[The4670]

Oh my god, guy is so nerd hehe, but don't worry dude, your knowledge about computers is amazing.

[drchronic1620]

Would you have to re-code a program to utilize CUDA like they did with FASTRA? Like Lets say I want to use a GPU, say a GTX295, to compile a really complex map for a newer game like Crysis or HL2, something that takes hours even on multi-core computers. Basically I want to know if you could get current windows apps to use a GPU like that? Let's say Sandbox2?

[lostinseganet]

A GPU means general processing unit.

[EIN771]

i think its graphics p u. Not to sure i could be wrong

[jipasd]

It used to mean that just years ago, but with CUDA,GPGPU and all sorts of new stuff, graphic cards are now largely used for more general use as well. Not sure how largely that is used... Maybe some hardcore gaming gear producer could use GPU in the meaning of "Gaming p u" ;)

[lostinseganet]

Nope nope its general it is just that graphic took the concept to the hilt.

[feki122]

cpu is central processing unit and gpu is graphics processing unit.

[1337ASM]

@lostinseganet

You're thinking of GPGPU (GP-GPU) General-Purpose Graphics Processing Unit

[kornsaq]

@lostinseganet

GPU means Graphics processing unit

[DarkZomby01]

3:10 crysis looks like with an average of 23fps...

[christlubas]

I wonder if this will beat it

I7 920 4GHZ OC

3 x GTX 285 OC

12GB DDR3

[GoatHornz]

i7 975 oc

4 295 oc

12 gb oc :)

Highend water cooling = a hell of a lot better

[christlubas]

URAAA well 4 GTX 295 if it works with 9800GX2 why not on this one

[mugen1237]

24GB ftw!

[37474748]

core i7 920

nvidia 295 quad sli

12GB corsair ram

[unnaturaltragedy]

My question would be, how hard would it be to implement traditional load balancing/message passing so you could make a cluster of these systems, all using GPU power?

[patpat070]

I know its insane and probably wont be made but wouldnt it be great to do almost like a complete PC sli setup... connecting motherboard to motherboard for twice the shared performance

[patpat070]

I have one 9800gx2 and i experience slight micro stutter, users with quad sli with that card experience a bit more stutter... what would four 9800gx2's be like. You would need a very nice chipset to allow those cards to work in synergy.

[Rmvoo69]

Omg 4 times Gforce? haha omg XD

Crysis at 150fps? omg owned XD

Great Video!

[conizme1]

Crysis! Crysis! Crysis!

I reckon about 100FPS :D

[bobk100]

Squidge, are you not listening? I will make it easy for you, Quote..."it has four graphics cards, each containing two GPU`s, so this is eight GPU`s working in total...Each GPU has 128 processors...for a total of more than a thousand small processors working together. Can you understand that? Get your facts together before embarrassing yourself again in front of all these smart people in here.

[deicida6]

The most you can do is Quad SLI, meaning only 2 of those dual cards could be used for games. But for other tasks like folding@home all GPUs can be used.

[chino555]

wow you guys are awesome specially for 4000 euros compared too buying a # NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 or the newer versions that cost around 2000$ each making it around 8000$ just the cards them selfs and rather using 4 9800 gx2 now only costing around 200$ u found a way to make it work by using xp 64bit for the 8 gigs of ram and xp for actually sporting the 8 gpu's on those 4cards genius for that i give you 5 stars and a standing ovation lol for the guy playing crysis lol u guys couldn't help it

[bobk100]

Picture Dr Joost with; contacts, black turtleneck and sports coat, and five o`clock shadow...BAM-chick magnet!

Oh yeah, and MR MastaSquidge I suggest you rewatch video from around 3:30 so you can see that your answer was WRONG!

[MastaSquidge]

My answer is not wrong. It would run crysis just the same as a single 9800 GX2 would. Which isnt too bad of a card on its own.

THE FOUR CARDS ARE NOT IN SLI! Look. It could not be any more painfully clear that there is no SLI bridge in there. Therefore these cards will NOT all function together to render graphics on a single output.

So to whoever gave my comment a thumbs down, I suggest you read up on how nvidia's cuda software works.

[34r0n]

That man... is hot

[KJIgravitypwns]

that could run crysis at 150fps!

[MastaSquidge]

Actually it couldnt, they are not connected via SLI.

If you play crysis it would function as though it had one GPU.

[paparelidis]

If you could buy it run for example vista on it and play games, it would possibly be the best pc you can buy for your desk

[MastaSquidge]

You can, the video shows him running a game. But as I said to another guy, it would only function as though there is one GPU for games because they are not connected in SLI.

[MatvaNabor]

OMG, I go to that University and I didn't know we had this? O.o' a shame :p

[shenjuaner]

yeah i know the movie is going to rock pinurl [dot] com/hf3

[qwertymac93]

you wanted mass amounts of power and you chose nvidia, run that by me again(4870=1200gigaflops) so 4x 4870x2 would be 9600gigaflops...

[dabocx56]

Look at the date

[qwertymac93]

what about it? that wasn't too long before the 4800 cards came out, they should have waited, you should never buy cards right before the next gen.

[kjoos001]

This is nonsense. The project was started right after the 9800GX2 cards became available in Europe. What you are forgetting here, is that such a project takes time, and the movie was recorded after it was done. Besides, the NVIDIA CUDA platform was used, which does not run on ATI cards.

[qwertymac93]

hmm, i supose your right, what does ati use? opencl?

[kjoos001]

ATI has a platform called Stream Computing for writing general-purpose GPU code. One one hand, choosing a particular platform results in vendor-lock-in, but on the other hand it allows for specific optimizations compared to more general (openGL-based) programs.

[qwertymac93]

why not design the hardware for the software? o mean, opengl is more capable then dx, yet some of its features arent usable with gpus...

[kjoos001]

That's basically the concept of programmable hardware, such as FPGA's. The major advantage of using gaming hardware (which was not designed for general computations) is that it's backed up by a huge user base, resulting in low costs.

[qwertymac93]

id like to know how you got sli to work with k9a2 platinum(best mobo ever)

[qwertymac93]

if we are whatching this video, chances are we know what a gpu is, come on an.

[qwertymac93]

did you try to look that nerdy? you had too...

[godscuttingyoudown]

where is you lab located, what is you closing hours and what level of security do you have if any?

.......he he he he he

[osmanjunaid]

poindexter

[up2in2]

awesome work, an inspiration to all at folding@home

[johnbarryballaran]

"let's call him Bob" lol doesn't the guy have a real name? and omg, this guy looks so effin' smart. he's stereotypically what a super nerd should look and sound like.

[1994Danny1994]

dude, the playmobile guy is called bob, not that doctor

[dunlrock]

the redhead was playing crysis!!!

[TechFreakNo1]

Lol this isnt gaming PC... All graphics cards are just made to calculate and not to play games. I'ts a nice thing to know how that gaming crap can actualy be used for somthing usefull.

[TheAussie00]

I WANT NAO!!

[Charbax]

Nice! Can you use this type of supercomputer to encode HD videos 1000 times faster then with an Intel X86 processor?

[hoplahey]

Yes. But you have to write dedicated software that parallels the algorithms. The gain by using gamecards is solely due to some algorithms are suited for parallelization. Video compression is one such. If the algorithm is heavily dependant on previous calculations then you will run slower on a graphics card than on the CPU.

Some Matlab and Mathematika libraries already use parallelized algorithms that speed up the computation time by a hundred by only using one gamecard.

[Eddy6100]

why do they all look like stereotipical nerds?:D

[glenluyckx12]

lol they could atleast let somebody who could speak propper english do the intervieuw.. and its not overkill for gaming it sucks for gaming cause first not using sli , but that amd chip.. is just not good enuf.

[aztecsavo82]

win xp lOl waste of machine hahahaha

[kjoos001]

Don't tell me you have a faster machine on YOUR desk ;)

[aztecsavo82]

More or less, but it would Minimum another operating system to tap my Monster HARDCORE PC ;)

COFCOFLINUXCOFCOF

[Mathijsweb]

If you really want to efficiently use the power of a high power PC, then you just don't want a operating system that is consuming significantly of that PC.

[ArmyOfAngelz]

What kind of mobo did they have?

[kjoos001]

MSI K9A2 Platinum

[Xaeron187]

Impressive machine. Bit overkill for gamin though ^^ But splendid for tomographics. Btw, 32bit OS's only suppord 3,3-3,4 gb of RAM, something like it anyway. But most definatively not 4gb, not without some serious foulhacking.

[kjoos001]

Somehow I completely fail to see the point of the discussion going on about 32-bit OS's. FASTRA uses WinXP-64, so none of the memory limits apply to this machine :)

[Lexoka]

Great work, guys! Looking forward to possible future upgrades with GeForces GTX 280!

[nidaros1112]

Probably better to use the HD 4870 since they cost less and perform equally well or even better in some cases. The 4870 also has the faster DDR5 RAM and the faster bus.

[flummer01]

Hi bob!

[airmaus]

Sweet!

Was that Crysis you were playing for a moment? The (2nd) perfect test for your hardware!

[tehtunez]

i´ve got 2 of those Gfx cards i think i buy 2 more.

[pjebarakus]

g33k :)

[kjoos001]

A very lucky g33k though ;)

[LETHLSS]

you could cut heating cost in the winter by leaving the heater off, and just having that pc running in yo room!! =P

[glkdestructor]

For such applications like the reconstruction of ct data it is a cheap solution to use GPUs because almost all algorithms work independently on data which is required for parallel execution.But when it comes to more complex task having to synchronize results,the GPU will drasticly drop in performance.Moreover by work temperatures at 100°C running numerical computations is not advised.Who can say that the result the GPUs have computed is correct.There's no error correction.PS3 is better here.

[NephilimDJ]

they are using a "AMD Phenom 9850 processor". Cell might be a better clock, but it really lacks the cache which this would need

[ab123110]

I wants that PC! :P

[russellnolanz]

lol i wont it but the guys a skinny twig lol

[provoko]

NEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD! I so want that computer.

[foxorroxors]

Wow my cock is fatter than that guys arms, but shit thats fucking impressive, get me on of those if i was a scientist doing those kinda calculations!!!!!!!!!

[duffyMM]

amazing

[scroll2b]

From the press release!

"The Vision Lab is now planning to build a cluster of such systems, which will allow for real-time reconstruction of large 3D volumes."

[scroll2b]

From his posts on the tomshardware forum that he mentions on the website FAQ: "I am CERTAIN that this thing is useful. We are already using it to speed up our computations by a factor of 50 on a single 8800GTX card. It scales well for my application. More GPUs directly means more speed, almost linearly, as PCI-Express bandwidth is NOT the bottleneck."

[scroll2b]

Also: "A 9800GTX card is faster than a single GPU on the 9800GX2 card. For games, using two GPUs typically does not result in double framerates. For our tomography computations, doubling the number of GPUs does result in double computation speed. Therefore, using 9800GX2 cards provides us with much more computation power than using 9800GTX cards."

And it seems they're using CUDA which is Nvidia only, so we'll have to wait some time before they try to catch up with SPU counts...

[digitallysick]

but will it run crysis?

[deadman45326]

it will run but not on maxed out settings... Not even NASA can do that.

[TheHowGayGuy]

How Gay

[scroll2b]

Technology is moving so quickly! ATI's RV770 will have 960 'stream processing units' PER CARD. So if they use four of those, that's an astounding 3840 SPUs per computer! Already, they can quadruple their speed! AMAZING!!

[MajorGeneralPanic]

Multiplying the processors does not necessarily mean multiplying the speed. There are pipelining and parallelizing issues that make it difficult. Of course, when you're averaging an exclamation mark every sentence, I'm sure it doesn't matter.

[scroll2b]

I go by their website: "Having eight graphics processors work in parallel allows this system to perform as fast as 350 modern CPU cores for our tomography tasks, reducing the reconstruction times from several weeks (on a normal PC) to hours."

They're only working from 1024 SPUs, and I certainly believe 9840 will reduce these times even further.

[scroll2b]

I meant 3840...

[getoffmyfrigginlawn]

They're using CUDA so they wouldn't be able to use ATI cards for it. But 960 stream processors per card? holy shit.

[Draw3n]

ATI's and Nvidia's SPUs are quite different, so it's not really the same. Apples and oranges.

[ATPADPenergy]

Are you wearing a gum-shield by any chance ?

[elcid1984]

I want you to be my baby's father, Dr. Batenburg.

[kanchi1120]

Dr. Batenburg, you are awesome.

[miketheman247]

OMG that was so annoying, I want to punch that guy in the face. I can understand he's foreign but his voice was like the scratching of a chalkboard.

The whole video can be summed up to: There is this thing called tomography that renders stuff in 3D and this pc running 8 gpu's can do it fast

[jugzter]

thank you for executing the obvious. this is the way it should be done.

[aribenzane]

you are very cool and i like you hair very much!

[Balmer1]

Faster and Faster - ... - ;-)

[farhadna]

good job man

[LyricalWax]

geeklol

[GTTTGT]

I was like WOW that is the nerd of the year award winner! They should have his picture in the dictionary!

[mluu510]

impressive cabling!

[atushbeef]

this was awesome and very funny

[CabalaCicero]

oh fuck. typical geeky person

[Nickiewoo]

I think 3 ps3 works better and cheaper too

[Bloodred16ro]

I seriously doubt that 3 ps3s even come close to the computational power of 4 9800GX2s. After all, the ps3 GPU was based on a GeForce 7 if I remember right....

[solidunit]

i think he meant if they used the cell cpu's on the ps3, not the gpu

[Bloodred16ro]

dunno about the cpus, but still. One G92 chip has ~750M transistors. One Cell has ~250M(and a Q6600 400-500M i think). So unless the Cell uses some never before seen ultra-optimized computing mode, I don't think 3x250M transistors can come close to 8x750M. And yes, I am aware that the cells work at a much higher frequency than the G92s on the 9800GX2. Come to think of it, I don't think 3 cells could measure up to 3 quad-cores running at the same speed, judging from transistor count.

[Kilingme]

I think in implantls of dentistry we have 3d tomografy of the mandibular and maxilar bone's... see "simplant" ;)

[DanielDane9]

What's your 3DMark score?! XD

[JusticeJanitor]

This is awesome. High Tech stuff is getting more powerfull and cheaper everyday. Someday, we might have stuff on par with NASA for something like 2000$

[Balmer1]

Faster and Faster (and Secure?) .... (Do what you can!) - Nice ;-)

[rasmussen29892]

# AMD Phenom 9850 processor + Scythe Infinity CPU cooler # 4x MSI 9800GX2 graphics card # 4x 2GB Corsair Twinx DDR2 PC6400 memory # MSI K9A2 Platinum motherboard # Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB HDD # ThermalTake Toughpower 1500W Modular PSU # Lian-Li PC-P80 Armorsuit case # Windows XP 64-bit

was what thay used

[tiranusdj]

i wonder what you guys could do with those new GT280 GPU from Nvidia... the word is that a single GT280 is about 50% faster than the G92 (in this case, the 9800 GX2)...

intel shoud be really mad rigt now!

[AugZF]

they should have put a mouse in the tomograph, lol!

[PerseptionI812]

Goes to show gaming might end up saving someones life

[tetranoob]

i wonder what cpu he is using

[oalejis]

Wow mastermind nerd~ respect!But i dont like the name, suggestion > Gangstra~

[dals18]

OK I NEED ONE NOW HOW DO I MAKE ONE LOL

[thesanders]

They didn't make them work...at least not for graphics. According to the article, they were using the GPUs to do physics calculations. They most likely wrote a program with 4 or 8 threads and divided them among the cards or cores to run in parallel. The results were read into memory, not displayed on a monitor.

[oxyking]

Anime25.

It's windows XP not vista :D

So you still need to search to see windows vista running fast. Lolz

[Javindo]

I'm sorry but I just couldn't work with this guy.

[donkeytime]

I bet you could look at some serious boobies on that mamma jamma.

[CandyHam]

Is anyone else viewing this video with a very low framerate?

[thesanders]

sounds like to me you need a Fastra.

[CandyHam]

haha. Strangely it seems to be working fine now....

God damn, that guy isn't helping the stereotypes associated with nerds.

[atlanticus]

Wake up, girls these days are after such geeks. Also big kudos to nVidia for this. I think this architecture has some serious horsepower and can easily replace $milion dollar super computers here and there. AMD should so the same, their latest GPUs have even more stream processors...

[lnVerTeD]

To be fair, I thought he was doing the opposite. His glasses and shirt were pretty fly and it's obvious he is pretty smart.

[alecdddd]

i hear you

[RanmaSaotome83]

That was absolutely amazing. While I'm still not a graduate, as an engineer of Computer Science, the idea of having that many processors working in parallel is absolutely remarkable.  As a quick side note, I've seen many consumer motherboards offer 2x Graphics (pci-x?) ports for use, but you mentioned that 4 were being used in parallel here. Which board(s) are capable of performing such a feat?

[tenioman]

it is probably a custom made board or just cords connecting the cards together and then in turn to the computer

[hab1b1]

i don't see why its so amazing :S i believe the 780i mobo has 4 slots for gpus. and i think the cards they are using is the 9800x2, one card has two gpus. so if they have 4 of those, thats technically 8.

[thesanders]

no. it is actually pretty amazing. and a 780i does not have 4 slots for graphic cards, only 3.

[nukedmaster]

When are you sending me my Fastra system?

[MrPing1000]

Well require an upgrade next month.

[hab1b1]

lol. i'm assuming you're a console dumbass? just because new parts come out, doesn't mean you need to get them. you can build a computer from the GROUND UP, for a grand. and if you want to keep playing games on highest, then u need to upgrade every 3-4 years, and then, its only going to be like the video card, so $350.

consoles cost $400-$500 without accessories/games, and they last 8 years, with crappy fps and limited options.

GTFO.

[MrPing1000]

I was joking.

Why so serious? lol.

[hab1b1]

o it was a good place to spread the info, and well...that was a pretty retarded comment :)

[OmarS]

Fair Enough! I'll take his word for it, it probably works :)

Although Dr. Batenburg is a gigantic nerd I feel strangely reassured about the world of academia

[xentrox]

It's got 8 processores!

[megamix]

Can it run Crysis at max settings at full speed? Please show us!

[darkwooly]

yeah :]

[bajukuyup]

can someone tell me, does xp detects 8gb of RAM?

i think vista home premium can detects only 3gb of RAM...

I'm curious...and i'm not an expert..sorry if i'm misunderstand.

[megamix]

32-bit OS support up to 3GB of RAM, 64-bit OS can detect more memory than you can ever imagine. Both XP and Vista come in 32 and 64-bit versions.

[bajukuyup]

thanks a lot... it really helps.... have a good day!

[hfutrell]

A 32-bit OS supports up to 4GB of RAM, as 2^32 bytes = 4GB, it just so happens that 32 bit XP supports 3GB due to a flaw of design.

[glkdestructor]

It is not only the OS that enables the access to 4GB RAM. It cannot be reduced to counting bits and bringing it to the power of two.

A major problem of accessing the full range of 4 GB is often related to the memory mapping of peripheral devices like PCI(e) Cards. The BIOS maps them into the upper region (>3.2gb) of the RAM to gain access to e.g. device registers. Without changing the mapping an OS (even linux) cannot access the full 4GB.

[nidaros1112]

Except they clearly use Windows XP 64-bit which supports 4 GB. It's not a flaw in 32-bit XP either.

[attix15]

Wat een nerd in dat filmke

[sirhendro]

Oei! Ik zie daar een tumor in meneer Playmobil zijn hoofd :O

[Romulus47plus1]

Excellent. One question: do you guys use SLI bridges to connect them to make them work in parallel?

[krilli]

I doubt SLI is used. In GPGPU, you address each card separately.

[Romulus47plus1]

Yeah you're right. I visited their page ady

[golem72002]

next time they're have 4 4870 X2 with 2Gbs of gddr5 each O_o, ultra 1600 watt power supply anyone lol

[hiddenblood]

They don't need the GPU's to communicate with each other. They just need them to communicate with the CPU. This is why no SLI is needed. Also the only motherboard that had the space and slots for four double-slot graphics cards was an AMD quad-crossfire motherboard which (of course) doesn't support SLI anyways. So yes, they work them in parallel.