The astrologer was talking about geometrical angular separations between heavenly bodies aka aspects are in synchroncity with events. Most astrologers believe in synchronicity when it comes to Astrology and not cause/effect. That's how I am as an astrologer.
Apparently, he's in ill health. I don't think it's a publicity anything, because he's stopped taking orders on his website until he recovers. I know I handed him his British arse, but I don't harbor any ill will towards him. I sincerely hope he has a speedy recovery and gains his full health back soon.
yeah beat it. go through your meaningless life like this, without a single moment of reflection how fu5^ed up u r. i guess is sucks to be astrology freak. go home to see if youre not there
Many autistics today have been misdiagnosed as mentally retarded because they given them the wrong IQ tests. They give them verbal-based IQ tests. The autistics are found to do much better on nonverbal IQ tests like Matrice Raven test. Scientists don't even agree on what causes Dyslexia too. There is poll that says that 2/3 of Americans think learning disabilities mean mental retardation.
It really bothers me that people are given a hard time by others because they diverge from the mainstream in some way. Throughout history,there have always been discord among people because they don't share their beliefs,practices. Intolerance of diversity is the greatest problem on our planet. Normal,Mainstream aren't necessarily right,true,nor superior. I don't believe that reality should be dictated because of what a majority thinks and believes.
What's known doesn't necessarily equate to reality. Things that are unknown can be just as real after they are finally become known through discovery and invention. There are so many things that can be discovered and invented that can lead to change of the views of reality. If it wasn't for people who think outside the box,there would be no inventions and discoveries. I am glad that not everybody is a convergent thinker with mainstream,conventional views.
Not all astrologers do that. I wouldn't generalize if I were you. Heck..I do free astrology readings and reports. I have never charged. I have problems with psychiatrists who misdiagnosed people based on the biases of society,ignorance,and prejudice. A lot of psychiatrists can't distinguish neurodivergent conditions from psychiatric disorders. That's one of the reasons that I am Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,learning disability,neurodivergent,neurodiversity,mental health advocate/activist.
Yes, they do. They may buy into their own hokum, but that just means they're fooling themselves as well as their marks. And it doesn't matter if you charge or not. Spreading bogosity is spreading bogosity.
time twins have parents born at different times reflected by their different heavenly body positions. So the synastry(comparison of the charts)will be different and be in synchronicity with the different biological interactions. Also..the time twins meet many other different people that can have an affect on them. So interactions with different people can be a factor in how their lives are different. The choices that they make are also factors. Free will is the ultimate factor.
As an astrologer,I always believed that free will is the ultimate factor. When I do a reading,I don't predict and tell people what they should do. That's up for them to decide. I am more into psychological,humanistic type of Astrology. I am not into predicting events. I am interested in asking people about things that have happened to their lives based on their charts.I honestly feel that my rightbrained strengths of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADD helps me as an astrologer.
"Not all astrologers do that. I wouldn't generalize if I were you. Heck..I do free astrology readings and reports. I have never charged."
The problem comes when you perpetrate bogosity. You help to maintain an atmosphere which is friendly to crap ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny. Instead of nodding politely when someone asks to read your fortune, you should instead politely ask them for evidence to back up their claims.
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Nothing about astrology is backed up by evidence.
It might feel nice being "connected" to the universe and know its inner workings. But you must be kidding yourself if you think you know the first fucking thing about it. If astrology was real, it would be in science textbooks, be all over the news, be accepted fact. It isn't, it's kooky nonsense brought to you by the same people that dowse for water and put crystals on your face.
There are things that aren't known. Once they are known through discovery and invention,then they are real.
Another thing too is that I believe that the metaphysical is not easily examined by the physical. I don't believe that it works that way. Many people believe in God,afterlife,and souls. I believe in those things too. Just because there is no proof of those things doesn't mean that they don't exist. I have to say that my belief in God after studying Astrology.
I have to say that my belief in God,souls,afterlife,and karma has increased as I have been studying Astrology. I believe that everything happens for a reason. I believe that there is a purpose behind everything. I believe that all the bad things that happened to me were lessons of humility,compassion,tolerance of diversity and prepared me to be an advocate/activist.
I have mental health problems myself, and to me, that's an even bigger incentive to think clearly and rationally, and not indulge in sloppy thinking.
Society might be diagnosis-happy, but it's not prejudice. It's helping people get better. But instead of calling something a "disorder", we're told they're not disorders, that so-and-so is an "indigo child" [for example].
That kind of thinking KEEPS people from getting NEEDED help.
I have problems with misdiagnoses. Many ethnic minorities.....especially Blacks have been misdiagnosed. Many neurodivergents have been misdiagnosed and being medicated. I was misdiagnosed to by psychiatrists because they thought my cluttering speech was psychotic,manic related. They didn't do any psychological testing. They only went by what they observed just like people thought I was mentally retarded because I had speech and coordination problems connected to my dyslexia and dyspraxia
the cluttering speech was dyslexic-dyspraxic related. they just judged me by my speech. They assume that nonlinear thought processes means mental illness. They don't stop to think I think mainly in pictures instead of words like many neurodivergents like dyslexics,autistics. You can't judge a book by its cover. You can't judge a person by their speech. as for sloppy thinking, that's your opinion. There is nothing wrong with having an openmind. it helped end slavery and racist laws
Cluttering (also called tachyphemia) is a speech disorder and a communication disorder characterized by speech that is difficult for listeners to understand due to rapid speaking rate, erratic rhythm, poor syntax or grammar, and words or groups of words unrelated to the sentence. Cluttering has in the past been viewed as a fluency disorder
So what you're saying with your verbal sleight of hand is that those who say astrology bunk are just like the people you say are "prejudiced" towards diagnosing you with mental health problems?
I cannot believe you're resorting to this tactic.
How many times do I have to say this isn't about you?
not just that....its the same way of thinking of people of religions do. badmouth,slam,and attack others because they don't believe,practice what they do. That's how I view skeptics. I believe that they more like cynics.
It is about me. It is about many people. There are people like me that actually help others with Astrology. Astrology has helped me understand myself,and so I helped others with Astrology.
there is a lot of legitimate doctors who misdiagnose and hurt people.
Well a lot of people share a lot of the same astrological placements and aspects in common. some astrological placements are similar and some astrological aspects are similar. For example, I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune,and my girlfriend has Moon sextile Neptune. Those are similar. She has Moon conjunct Saturn,and I have Moon square Saturn.
She and I are alike too even though we are an interracial couple. Astrology transcends race.
A matter of fact. I believe that Astrology is a good thing because it shows that people of different races,ethnicities,religions,genders,etc can have similarities and differences that are in synchronicity with their similar and different astrological placements,aspects.
my mother has Moon in Scorpio,and my father had Moon in Pisces...so they shared high emotional sensitivity in common...they felt similarities that transcended their racial differences.
Here's a challenge for you. Given our interractions here on the wonderful world of YouTube, what would you say my sun sign is.
Guess, and I'll tell you if you're right.
[PS: Please stop with the malarky about metaphysics. If it was real, yes we would be able to discover it, the way we discovered gravity. But gravity is testable. Astrology is not, and has had at least two millennia to be tested and verified.]
Astrology is more than sunsigns. My mother has Sun in Gemini, and my mother is not the typical Gemini. She has Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio.....that indicates a highly emotional,ultrasensitive nature which she does have. Even her Sun in Gemini is trine Neptune,and so similar to Sun in Pisces. Her Sun is sextile/parallel Pluto,and that's similar to my Sun in Scorpio.
In other words, you ARE comparing us to the doctors you claim misdiagnosed you on purely racial grounds [a rather spurious claim at that] because we think your beliefs just don't pass the scientific criteria.
This is pretty low, don't you think?
You can believe whatever junk you want to—so far it's a free country where you live [I hope]. But right to believe does not make the belief valid.
Believing in something doesn't validate the belief.
I didn't say they misdiagnosed me on purely racial grounds. I said that psychiatrists do have a history of misdiagnosing ethnic minorities..especially blacks. I said that they misdiagnosed me because of my cluttering speech which was Dyslexic,Dyspraxic related. They didn't bother to ask me if I had a history of speech therapy nor special education. They just judged me by my speech just like so-called normal children judged me as retarded because of my speech when I was a littele kid.
Disorders of the mind are not judged strictly on speech patterns. A doctor is also looking for other things. Things that are too subtle for you or someone else to notice that a trained professional would.
You think it's speech. The doctor'll say it's more than just that.
And I'll tell you it likely had nothing to do with race [which so far seems to be what you're saying—that this supposed history of racially-based diagnosis is why you're diagnosed so].
Oh yes....they do...a psychiatrist pointed out to me about my speech. It was recorded on my medical record. I know because I read it. They never did any psychological testing. They didn't bother to look into other causes.
Years later, neurologists confirmed my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. Unlike the psychiatrists,they did testing. They told me that I wasn't suffering from the stuff that the psychiatrists labeled me.
I didn't say that my diagnosis had anything to do with race. I already said that.
I am a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADD of multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry and I was misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective bipolar disorder by psychiatrists in 1999. I was confirmed to have Dyslexia and Dyspraxia by Veteran Affairs neurologists in 2006.
this is my Veteran Affairs neurological testing
I said that they misdiagnosed me based on my speech.....not race.
there are lot of ethnic minorities..especially blacks that have been psychiatrically misdiagnosed.
a lot of neurodivergents have been misdiagnosed too. The symptoms of the neurodivergent conditions and psychiatric disorders overlap. That's why both psychological testing and neurological testing should be done. You can't judge a book by its cover. I was misplaced with the mentally retarded in 1st grade because of my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. They found out that I have above average intelligence.
What then is the point of bringing up your own race in a discussion on whether psychiatrists tend to misdiagnose people of non-caucasian races if your own race was not a factor in your diagnosis?
[I offered to leave you alone, then you bring up a new set of nonsense that I felt needed to be responded to.
There is nothing wrong bringing up my multiethnic background in a discussion. It's who I am. I am not ashamed of it.
I clearly stated that my speech problems were the main factor in my misdiagnosis. I never said race.
I just pointed that misdiagnoses do happen. I pointed out that many ethnic minorities..especially blacks are misdiagnosed. I pointed out that many neurodivergents are misdiagnosed.
That's not nonsense. I never had a shovel. Therefore,no need to confiscate what I never had.
PS: Your ethnicity is only relevant to you it has no relevancy to us. It was never relevant at all. Ever. Except to you. You're trying to compare us to psychiatrists who misdiagnose people of non-Caucasian descent. You're telling us we're closed-minded and other yawners. Why bother bringing this all up? It's not relevant to us. We don't care what ethnicity you are so what's the point?
Oh, wait. I know. It's an effort to make us feel bad for saying "mean things" about your beliefs, right?
I was trying to make a point that doctors,psychiatrist make mistakes too,but psychiatry is not bogus. There are people who make mistakes in other professions and hurt people.
I also try to make a point that many people have been victimized because they have natures,appeareances,views and/or beliefs,and practices that aren't of the mainstream. There is a lot of intolerance of diversity. A lot of intolerance of people that are different.
in the past, mainstream pagans have persecuted Christians. Then when Christians became in the majority,pagans and other nonbelievers were persecuted. If you had views that went against the mainstream,you were seen as heretic,tortured,even put to death.
To this very day,many people of various religions give others a hard time for not believing/practicing what they do. That's the same thing that many scientists,rationalists do. It's all the same....it's bigotry. It's intolerance of diversity
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See....there you go being condescending and patornizing....telling me that I have intellectual bankruptcy because I don't share your beliefs,views,and opinions.
a long time ago, scientists thought that blacks were genetically inferior and that they were less intelligent than whites. a lot time ago, psychiatrists believed that blacks were naturally volatile and had primitive emotions.
autistic spectrum disorders were once thought to be a form of schizophrenia.
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Scientific racism played a role in establishing Apartheid in South Africa. In South Africa, white scientists, like Dudly Kidd, who published The essential Kafir in 1904, sought to "understand the African mind." They believed that the cultural differences between whites and blacks in South Africa might be caused by physiological differences in the brain. He described Africans as at once "hopelessly deficient," yet "very shrewd."
Early anthropologists such as Josiah Clark Nott, George Robins Gliddon, Robert Knox, and Samuel George Morton aimed to prove scientifically that Negroes were not the same species as white people. After the Civil War, Southern physicians wrote many texts outlining scientific studies claiming freed blacks were dying out, implying blacks benefited from slavery.
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The term "autistic" was first used in 1912 by psychiatrist Dr. Eugen Bleuler to describe some people who were then diagnosed with schizophrenia; their behavior seemed as if they were "disengaged from everything except their internal world." In Chapter 2, "Theme and Variation: The 'Discovery' of Autism" of Unstrange Minds: Remapping the World of Autism (2007), anthropologist Roy Richard Grinker notes that "large numbers of people with autism would be diagnosed as 'schizophrenic
Some, mostly in the United States, aimed to scientifically justify African enslavement to quell moral questions raised by the Atlantic slave trade. Alexander Thomas and Samuell Sillen described Black men as uniquely fitted for bondage due to their "primitive psychological organization."[23] In 1851, antebellum Southern physician Samuel A. Cartwright (1793-1851) of Louisiana considered the attempts of slaves to gain freedom as a treatable mental illness he named "drapetomania".
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Both the DSM-I (1952) and the DSM-II (1968) do not mention autism as a distinct syndrome; autism is mentioned as "Schizophrenic reaction, childhood type" and "Schizophrenia, childhood type." The DSM-III (1980) provides specific diagnostic criteria for Infantile Autism. In the past, autistic individuals might have received a diagnosis of schizophrenia (or mental retardation, or something else); they could not be diagnosed with autism because it did not exist as a diagnostic category.
Some publications, such as the Mankind Quarterly, have been accused of systematically publishing racist research. The Mankind Quarterly is an anthropology journal that contains articles on human evolution, intelligence, ethnography, language, mythology, archaeology, and race. The journal publishes work they feel would otherwise be suppressed due to what they call the political domination of the scientific enterprise by "liberals, Communists and Jews."
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Scientists have came up with "evidence" about certain things in the past,and they have been wrong. They used research to validate their erroneous theories. Ignorance..even bigotry has influenced their studies as it did with racism and autism. Psychiatrists have a history of misdiagnosing people too.
Even now its found out that antidepressants don't work unless for people with very severe depression. Scientists don't have all the answers. They don't know everything. So many things unknown.
Contemporary researchers who have been described as scientific racists include Arthur Jensen (The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability), J. Philippe Rushton, president of the Pioneer Fund (Race, Evolution, and Behavior), Chris Brand, Richard Lynn(IQ and the Wealth of Nations), Charles Murray, and Richard Herrnstein (The Bell Curve), among others.
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I am not post any more. You are guys are more like cynics than skeptics. You tell people that they are intellectually bankrupt, and are very condescending and patronizing. If you criticize something that you don't study. BTW...Astronomer,Dr. Percy Seymour wrote about a book about scientific evidence for Astrology,and he was given a hard time by his peers. People who think outside the box and have ideas that aren't of the mainstream aren't necessary stupid nor crazy. Remember that.
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I will leave you condescending,patronizing,intellectual snobs alone. BTW....I believe in diversity. I don't matter what it is. I don't believe in putting people down because they are different from me. As a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADD person of multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry who doesn't fit male stereotypes, I believe that all people should be treated equal because all people are equal.
it was accepted by the scientists that larger heads meant more intelligence. When they obtained their data proving that white people had larger heads than black people, they knew they had proven that white people were more intelligent. They never questioned that the assumption of "large head = intelligent" might have been wrong. They proved their theories with unrelated facts.
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Scientists tried different comparisons between races, such as skull size, skull shape, and arm length to establish differences between races. A larger skull would mean more intelligence; a skull with the front larger than the back would indicate an emphasis on the "intelligent part" of the brain; and longer arms would indicate a resemblance to lower primates, such as apes.
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mistrust of doctors, biased tests and the internet have bred myths about the condition.
At a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, researchers presented reports showing that even people with autism who do not speak can have above-average intelligence.
Mottron believes the wrong intelligence tests are used to assess autistic children.
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Meredyth Goldberg Edelson, a professor of psychology at Willamette University in Oregon, reviewed 215 articles published over the past 71 years, all making or referring to this link between autism and mental retardation. She found that most of the papers (74 percent) lacked their own research data to back up the assumption. Thirty-nine percent of the articles weren't based on any data, and even the more rigorous studies often used questionable measures of intelligence.
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Mike Merzenich, a professor of neuroscience at UC San Francisco, says the notion that 75 percent of autistic people are mentally retarded is "incredibly wrong and destructive." He has worked with a number of autistic children, many of whom are nonverbal and would have been plunked into the low-functioning category. "We label them as retarded because they can't express what they know,"
Autism and Asperger's syndrome are quite frequently misdiagnosed as other conditions. These include Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Attention Deficit Disorder (with and without hyperactivity), Oppositional-Defiant Disorder, mental retardation, sensory impairments, and childhood schizophrenia.
by checking my yahoo profile, astynaz.....then click on the homepage and you will be at my photo album...once you there, then go down to "My Learning Disability Stuff" and click on it. Then you will see all my ADHD assessment,Dr Levinson testing,and my Veteran Affairs neurological/neuropsychological testing.
Get this into your head: WE DON'T CARE. We don't care WHAT your ethnicity is. We don't care if you have ADD or ADHD or HD-DVD. This ISN'T ABOUT YOU. It's about the EVIDENCE.
The evidence--every single piece of it--says that astrology is bogus.
There is no need to be condescending and patronizing which you are being right now and which you appear to be in your videos.....thinking that if people don't share your mainstream views,beliefs,and practices because you then that they are stupid and putting people down. I have a big problem with people like you.
You have the right to believe any crazy nonsense you want. You want to believe the Earth is flat, or has a hollow core, or that it is the centre of the universe? Knock yourself out.
But your right to believe doesn't make your belief a valid belief.
And if someone challenges you to explain or justify why you believe it, trying to tell us we're intolerant and closed-minded [AFTER I say you can believe whatever you want] is absurd. Or some term that Shanedk can think of because it's escaping me.
It's not crazy nonsense just like many religious,spirtiual beliefs aren't crazy nonsense. I don't believe that the Earth is flat,has a hollow coar,nor that it is a the center of the universe.
Your right to believe doesn't make your belief a valid belief either.
all you people do is consdescend and patronize and talk down to people. you people aren't skeptics at all. You people are cynics.
We're condescending and meanie heads because we disagree with your beliefs.
You're an intellectual embarrassment.
Please. Let's just drop this OK? You're running out of arguments [actually you ran out of them somewhere around or before noon] and I'm running out of patience.
Rapid speech is a symptom of mania, but it's related to cluttering which is common with neurodivergent people. tangential,disorganized speech is a symptom of schizophrenia...the disorganized type. That's also cluttering speech.
poor coordination,left/right confusion,memory issues,disorganization including speech are symptoms of not only psychotic disorders but also neurodivergent conditions like Dyspraxia.
sensory integration issues are common in neurodivergent conditions too
Meanwhile, in reality land, the real reason that people are the way they are is because of genetics and environmental experiences during various stages of their development, both in and ex-utero.
If anyone really wants to appreciate the universe and happen to live in a city with no planetarium [and don't have access to a car], to just look up Hubble pictures in Google Pictures [or any other search engine], and you'll see marvels your newspaper's horoscope column can't provide. It's never failed to impress me just how magnificent our universe really is, and that we have the mind to truly appreciate it.
I downloaded it earlier, and when I can, I'll be poking around at it. But the thought of Stellarium [and Hubble et all] made me ask myself a little while ago this question: with new planets being discovered outside the Sol system regularly, how long do you think it'll take astrologers to incorporate them to the point where the natal chart is an even BIGGER incomprehensible mess than it already is? Or will brevity demand they keep this tosh simple?
Some astrologers are doing research on Eris. I have been doing it too. Let let me tell you....mainstream astrologers act the same way skeptics do when astrologers use objects other than the major planets. I am one of the minority of astrologers who don't view Pluto as a planet. I also expressed my belief that Ceres and Pluto should be equals.
Why would they HAVE to? If it has an effect on people, shouldn't they have noticed it a long time ago? Shouldn't they have predicted a body where Eris is with its orbital period? Same with Ceres.
They either have an effect, or they don't. If they have an effect, they should have seen it a long time ago. If they don't, astrology is bunk.
"Skepticism is a belief system too,and it can be similar to religion"
No, it isn't. Skepticism is based on evidence. Religion is based on DENYING evidence. Pretending that two people saying "I'm right, you're wrong" are the same when one has the evidence on his side and the other doesn't is pure intellectual dishonesty.
scep·ti·cism n. 2. Philosophy. 1. The ancient school of Pyrrho of Elis that stressed the uncertainty of our beliefs in order to oppose dogmatism. 2. The doctrine that absolute knowledge is impossible, either in a particular domain or in general. 3. A methodology based on an assumption of doubt with the aim of acquiring approximate or relative certainty. 3. Doubt or disbelief of religious tenets.
I challenge you to find ONE prominent skeptic (Dawkins, Randi, whoever) who will agree that skepticism isn't based on examining the evidence.
You fall back on the dictionary, which doesn't define anything but merely report usage, to try and LIE about what someone believes. It's pathetically dishonest. If you want to know what a skeptic is, ask a skeptic.
You're just making pathetic excuses. EVERYTHING in my videos is based on the evidence. Deal with it.
Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that you have talk down to people. As a person with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADD, I don't believe in treating people like they are stupid because I know how that feels like. People shouldn't be dissed because they don't share your beliefs.
Oh goodie the "I have a disorder!" card! Because you've got ADD and other disorders we have to be nice!
Neither I nor Shanedk said anything about your disorders. Heck we were addressing the topic of debate, which may suprise you is not about you but astrology.
Notice we say that ASTROLOGY is bunk. I have not said that YOU were bunk.
Okay. I'll be nice and leave you alone rather than listen to any crying. However, I still say astrology is false.
my point is that I am not condescending and patronizing because of my experiences. I don't like peole who patronize and condescend. That's what I was trying to make. My experiences made me humble and want to treat others like I want to be treated. It also taught me lessons about tolerance of diversity. Even my multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry factors into my tolerating diversity and treating others like I want to be treated....a fellow human being with a soul.
It's not being patronizing or condescending to jump on someone who's trying to misrepresent what and who one is. You are absolutely misrepresenting skeptics, and as I said, I challenge you to find ONE prominent skeptic who agrees with you.
Hey.....I am just expressing my opinions just like you are. That's not a crime. You constantly diss people because of what they practice because it doesn't concur with what you think is not real.
I was skeptical of Astrology until 1998 at the age of 28 years old. I found out about moonsigns,and I found out that my moonsign iss Pisces. I even had an accurate hunch about my mother's moonsign being Scorpio. That reflects her having same traits as my Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio even though she has Sun in Gemini. My father and my maternal grandfather had Moon in Pisces which I was right about. I was atheist for 2 yrs until my grandfather's death that led me on spiritual search
also....many astrologers believe in synchronicity and not cause and effect....so believe that a heavenly body event is meaningfully paralleled with terrestrial life experiences.
Cosmobiologists and Uranian astrologers believe that the hard aspects(conjunctions,oppositions,squares,semisquares,sesquiquadrates)
involved with planetary aspects are in synchronicity concrete events. They don't believe that they are just challenging. I don't believe in good and bad aspects in Astrology. I am looking into the golden section aspects that Theodor Landscheidt came up. Those are aspects based on golden ratio.
So why do we say that a bad angle correlates to negative events, even if something positive [or more importantly, many positive events] occur when planets form "hard aspects"?
Why say it's "synchronicity" at all? If I won the lottery when my natal Mars was making a hard aspect to Jupiter, wouldn't that be "synchronicity" too?
I don't believe in good and bad angles myself. I told you about that in regards to cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology. Another thing too is that there can be some easy aspects at time when there are hard aspects. There is not only the transits,but also secondary progressions and solar arcs. Yeah...transiting Jupiter in hard aspect to natal Mars isn't necessarily bad. Like I said, hard aspects could indicate concrete events.....also Jupiter is also known as a benefic.
just because they are time twins doesn't mean that they will have same experiences....the parents won't have the same charts...so the synastry between A and his parents and the synastry between B and his parents would be different. so there can be different biological interactions which can lead to different upbringing...also...the time twins can have interactions with many different people.
For a long time I was very mush against astrology. And i used to make fun of people who where into it. I useed to say how can every person on earth be based on only 12 archtypes. Then in 2001 I went on line to try and debunk it, but the observational evidence was overwhelming in favour of it. I was honest and i used my own chart as a base then branched out from there.
Evidence can be found through observation. Picking and proding something to see how it reacts. The astrological chart fits the person exactly, if it dosent then the astrologer has not yet reached a competent stage. At Astrology (dot, u know what) you can see your chart and start from there. Then google some of your aspects, but it will be lacking as it is just computer based.
There is no physical change in the body that could support the twin theory of time because the ship must be air tight and resistant to all outside influences. To use the effect of light as a standard for time does not prove any physical change to a human body encapsulated in a ship no matter how fast the ship travels.
shanedk Then explain the time-twins study.<< I just did. Elucidating further. We base time on action or events such as light per or particle decay per [usually sec or nano seconds.} So if no events took place in the universe and it froze still than time would keep passing regardless. In order not to age there must be a different action on the human metabolism and there just isn't in the twin study other than speed in a controlled earth environment spaceship!
Follow me on this: astrology says that the time of your birth dictates certain personality traits. A comprehensive 40-year study of thousands of people, unrelated but for the fact that they were born within 1 minute of each other, show no more similarities than people born at vastly different times.
Your response, therefore, doesn't explain the study in any way. It's just gobbledygook.
>>shanedkYour response, therefore, doesn't explain t <<Your brain is gobbledygook. Gomer Pyle idiot. I DEFINITELY explained it and Poor Einstein would back me up on it!
Your posts are getting more and more unintelligible. Einstein would have NEVER backed astrology, the time-twins study PROVES astrology is bogosity, and I have NO CLUE what you're talking about with "moon photos of the sun."
Newsaper sun based astrology is not astrology. The whole chart needs to be studied and that takeds time. Ive been studying astrology now for 1 hour a day for the last 5 years and im only just getting into the stage where im competent at it. You have to start with you own birth chart and work from there.
I'm trying not to get involved where splitting hairs is concerned. But the vast majority of skeptics are atheists and atheists are scared or beleiving in anything other than once your dead you cease to exist. So they will put up a barrier to anything that dosent fit into there dead zone, including astrology.
I have yet to see ONE reputable scientist support the moon hoax conspiracy. ALL of them, from all over the globe, INCLUDING the Soviets, accept that we landed on the moon.
Well we are in sick shape if you consider yourself a reputable scientist with all your rantings and railings instead of civilized discussion. You "blindly" ignore common sense logic and true evidence and go for what you think is patriotism when it is anti-patriotism in the present age to believe in an impossible moon mission in 1969! Get down with it.
It is far from impossible. It is quite possible, it was done, and any scientist with the relevant knowledge and experience will tell you so. You prate on with your insults and empty appeals to logic because you have no real evidence and no real logic to back you up.
The moon hoaxers have GOT to be the most pathetic of all conspiracy mongers.
shanedk pathetic mongers.<<Alright I had enough of this! In reality you seem to be a very intelligent person!"If" I insult it is just jokes so don't take it seriously. I really know that the conspirators are NASA elite. You really have to stop shunning the preponderance of evidence and give a "FAIR" shake to both sides and examine them ""diligently"" before you scream statements of absolute knowing all over the YouTube.
There is NO evidence of a conspiracy or a hoax! NONE WHATSOEVER! The hoax nuts come up with literally hundreds of claims and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS WRONG! You don't even need much of an education to see that they're wrong!
The USSR, Jodrell Bank, all of the amateur astronomers who TRACKED THE APOLLO SPACECRAFT, these aren't NASA elites! In the case of the USSR, they would have LOVED to claim it was a fake! They got egg on their face! THINK!!!
shanedk TRACKED AP SPACECRAFT<< Tracked it up and into orbit around the earth the rest was beamed in via satellite in line with the moon. Gullible shanedk?
Don't be a moron. They could easily tell the difference between a satellite and a spacecraft at the moon because the satellite would appear at different angles around the world relative to the moon.
You'd have to be really pathetically STUPID not to understand that!
The moon hoaxers have a point with some of the photographic evidence but after a little research I concluded that the moon landings happened -- NASA just touched up the photographs to make them look better before publicly releasing them.
For it to have been hoaxed then close to a million people were in on it from all across the globe with most outside NASA. Think about it.
Dwads and decons for the second time. If your wife is a virgo and she never displays qualities like that, then you need to look at the whole chart. Scientific observation..
Except that you said that ALL Virgos are like this. You're not being at all scientific; you're making up excuses after the fact.
Whenever astrologers are asked to write up a chart without meeting the person in question, they do no better than guessing. That's why they won't take the challenge.
In the 1st part he says "confusing words"... I love it. The skeptic has no idea of what he is talking about. In the middle part he talks about twins. There birth is not the same even if it is only a few mins apart. Dwads and decons need to be considered. But he wouldnt know this as he is UNEDUCATED.....And at the end he tries to get emotional, like a little girl... LOL. But of course we all know that newspaper astrology is not real astrology, dont we? Please say yes to at least that..
Ah, very nice. Personal insults instead of rational rebuttals. Thank you for showing your true colors, and how much of a proper defense the astrology buffs can put on: NONE AT ALL.
Oh, and what about the study where they compared time twins born within ONE MINUTE of each other? They still found NONE of the similarities astrologers say should be there. They were just as alike and just as different as unrelated people born at completely different times.
So all of you razor sharp intelectual, can never be fooled skeptics. Have never noticed that Geminies like to talk, gossip and gather facts. That all virgoes are usually clean, analytical and anal. That areis people like to jump into things then lose interest quickly etc, etc. So you have gone through most of your life and not noticed these things? Maybe the science of observation is necessary.
Actually, Virgos are only impeccably neat and tidy IF they can stay on top of everything. Virgo demands perfection or bust. Which means: if it cannot be perfect, then let it be chaos. It is all or nothing, feast or famine. Which is why Virgo is followed in the zodiac by Libra -- the quest for balance.
Actually, any decent astrologer should be able to look at your chart and your ex-wife's chart together and take a good stab at why you are ex-es, beyond the simplistic observation that Leo and Vrigo do not mix.
Are you saying your ex-wife was a lying child-abuser? That's sad. But no, Sun Virgos are not normally like that. And it is a mistake to generalise from one point (the Sun) in Virgo to the whole person. Again: horoscopes and sun-sign astrology are low expressions. It's the same as the gap between how many people know the Lord's Prayer and how many can recite the Book of Job. Or the gap between how many people know E=mc^2 and how many can *explain* it!
Awesome! I particularly like how you close (from 4:30 on) and couldn't agree with you more. I have loved studying astronomy from the first time I looked up.
Fortune telling aside, astrology is a great way to look at our place in space/time with cool imagery and story. - I'm not articulating this very well but theres a character limit here.
What a truly wonderful video - thank you. To James Young and astrologers like him: it's time to take courage and come out of the darkness into the light. We would all applaud you for it.
This is the scary thing. People base life decisions on this stuff. I used to have some belief in astrology as well (also psychic powers, etc) - it was quite a shocking revelation when I began to look more closely at it and realise how ridiculous the whole thing actually is.
The astrologer was talking about geometrical angular separations between heavenly bodies aka aspects are in synchroncity with events. Most astrologers believe in synchronicity when it comes to Astrology and not cause/effect. That's how I am as an astrologer.
fomalhauto 11 months ago
James Young. Brings back memories. Wonder what this moron is doing now.
BeforeTheNoose 2 years ago
Apparently, he's in ill health. I don't think it's a publicity anything, because he's stopped taking orders on his website until he recovers. I know I handed him his British arse, but I don't harbor any ill will towards him. I sincerely hope he has a speedy recovery and gains his full health back soon.
shanedk 2 years ago
Thank you for citing your sources!!!
horsesandmountains 2 years ago
yeah beat it. go through your meaningless life like this, without a single moment of reflection how fu5^ed up u r. i guess is sucks to be astrology freak. go home to see if youre not there
lucapaliuca 4 years ago
Formalhauto I hate to say it but you're really embarrassing yourself here. Quit while the hole's still deep enough to climb out of.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Many autistics today have been misdiagnosed as mentally retarded because they given them the wrong IQ tests. They give them verbal-based IQ tests. The autistics are found to do much better on nonverbal IQ tests like Matrice Raven test. Scientists don't even agree on what causes Dyslexia too. There is poll that says that 2/3 of Americans think learning disabilities mean mental retardation.
Now that's sloppy thinking and bogosity!
fomalhauto 4 years ago
It really bothers me that people are given a hard time by others because they diverge from the mainstream in some way. Throughout history,there have always been discord among people because they don't share their beliefs,practices. Intolerance of diversity is the greatest problem on our planet. Normal,Mainstream aren't necessarily right,true,nor superior. I don't believe that reality should be dictated because of what a majority thinks and believes.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
What's known doesn't necessarily equate to reality. Things that are unknown can be just as real after they are finally become known through discovery and invention. There are so many things that can be discovered and invented that can lead to change of the views of reality. If it wasn't for people who think outside the box,there would be no inventions and discoveries. I am glad that not everybody is a convergent thinker with mainstream,conventional views.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
I don't care if you diverge from the mainstream. I do PLENTY of that!
I have a problem if you use bogosity to bilk people out of money you didn't earn. And that's exactly what astrologers do.
shanedk 4 years ago
Not all astrologers do that. I wouldn't generalize if I were you. Heck..I do free astrology readings and reports. I have never charged. I have problems with psychiatrists who misdiagnosed people based on the biases of society,ignorance,and prejudice. A lot of psychiatrists can't distinguish neurodivergent conditions from psychiatric disorders. That's one of the reasons that I am Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,learning disability,neurodivergent,neurodiversity,mental health advocate/activist.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
"Not all astrologers do that."
Yes, they do. They may buy into their own hokum, but that just means they're fooling themselves as well as their marks. And it doesn't matter if you charge or not. Spreading bogosity is spreading bogosity.
shanedk 4 years ago
bogosity that's your opinion. same thing with Christianity and other major religions.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
If it's not bogosity, then explain the Time Twins Study.
shanedk 4 years ago
time twins have parents born at different times reflected by their different heavenly body positions. So the synastry(comparison of the charts)will be different and be in synchronicity with the different biological interactions. Also..the time twins meet many other different people that can have an affect on them. So interactions with different people can be a factor in how their lives are different. The choices that they make are also factors. Free will is the ultimate factor.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
As an astrologer,I always believed that free will is the ultimate factor. When I do a reading,I don't predict and tell people what they should do. That's up for them to decide. I am more into psychological,humanistic type of Astrology. I am not into predicting events. I am interested in asking people about things that have happened to their lives based on their charts.I honestly feel that my rightbrained strengths of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADD helps me as an astrologer.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
So, why don't astrologers ever ask for all this extra information when reading your chart?
shanedk 4 years ago
"Not all astrologers do that. I wouldn't generalize if I were you. Heck..I do free astrology readings and reports. I have never charged."
The problem comes when you perpetrate bogosity. You help to maintain an atmosphere which is friendly to crap ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny. Instead of nodding politely when someone asks to read your fortune, you should instead politely ask them for evidence to back up their claims.
Gullibility isn't a virtue.
ScottishAtheist 4 years ago
bogisity.....that's your opinion. I have my opinions. It's not about gullibility. It's about openmindedness and insight into certain things
fomalhauto 4 years ago
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Nothing about astrology is backed up by evidence.
It might feel nice being "connected" to the universe and know its inner workings. But you must be kidding yourself if you think you know the first fucking thing about it. If astrology was real, it would be in science textbooks, be all over the news, be accepted fact. It isn't, it's kooky nonsense brought to you by the same people that dowse for water and put crystals on your face.
It's bollocks.
ScottishAtheist 4 years ago
There are things that aren't known. Once they are known through discovery and invention,then they are real.
Another thing too is that I believe that the metaphysical is not easily examined by the physical. I don't believe that it works that way. Many people believe in God,afterlife,and souls. I believe in those things too. Just because there is no proof of those things doesn't mean that they don't exist. I have to say that my belief in God after studying Astrology.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
I have to say that my belief in God,souls,afterlife,and karma has increased as I have been studying Astrology. I believe that everything happens for a reason. I believe that there is a purpose behind everything. I believe that all the bad things that happened to me were lessons of humility,compassion,tolerance of diversity and prepared me to be an advocate/activist.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
I have mental health problems myself, and to me, that's an even bigger incentive to think clearly and rationally, and not indulge in sloppy thinking.
Society might be diagnosis-happy, but it's not prejudice. It's helping people get better. But instead of calling something a "disorder", we're told they're not disorders, that so-and-so is an "indigo child" [for example].
That kind of thinking KEEPS people from getting NEEDED help.
And I was supposed to leave you alone...
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I have problems with misdiagnoses. Many ethnic minorities.....especially Blacks have been misdiagnosed. Many neurodivergents have been misdiagnosed and being medicated. I was misdiagnosed to by psychiatrists because they thought my cluttering speech was psychotic,manic related. They didn't do any psychological testing. They only went by what they observed just like people thought I was mentally retarded because I had speech and coordination problems connected to my dyslexia and dyspraxia
fomalhauto 4 years ago
the cluttering speech was dyslexic-dyspraxic related. they just judged me by my speech. They assume that nonlinear thought processes means mental illness. They don't stop to think I think mainly in pictures instead of words like many neurodivergents like dyslexics,autistics. You can't judge a book by its cover. You can't judge a person by their speech. as for sloppy thinking, that's your opinion. There is nothing wrong with having an openmind. it helped end slavery and racist laws
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Cluttering (also called tachyphemia) is a speech disorder and a communication disorder characterized by speech that is difficult for listeners to understand due to rapid speaking rate, erratic rhythm, poor syntax or grammar, and words or groups of words unrelated to the sentence. Cluttering has in the past been viewed as a fluency disorder
fomalhauto 4 years ago
So what you're saying with your verbal sleight of hand is that those who say astrology bunk are just like the people you say are "prejudiced" towards diagnosing you with mental health problems?
I cannot believe you're resorting to this tactic.
How many times do I have to say this isn't about you?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
not just that....its the same way of thinking of people of religions do. badmouth,slam,and attack others because they don't believe,practice what they do. That's how I view skeptics. I believe that they more like cynics.
It is about me. It is about many people. There are people like me that actually help others with Astrology. Astrology has helped me understand myself,and so I helped others with Astrology.
there is a lot of legitimate doctors who misdiagnose and hurt people.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
It's about the EVIDENCE. What don't you get about that?
If astrology works, explain the Time Twins Study.
shanedk 4 years ago
another thing....the Forer,Barnum Effect
Well a lot of people share a lot of the same astrological placements and aspects in common. some astrological placements are similar and some astrological aspects are similar. For example, I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune,and my girlfriend has Moon sextile Neptune. Those are similar. She has Moon conjunct Saturn,and I have Moon square Saturn.
She and I are alike too even though we are an interracial couple. Astrology transcends race.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
A matter of fact. I believe that Astrology is a good thing because it shows that people of different races,ethnicities,religions,genders,etc can have similarities and differences that are in synchronicity with their similar and different astrological placements,aspects.
my mother has Moon in Scorpio,and my father had Moon in Pisces...so they shared high emotional sensitivity in common...they felt similarities that transcended their racial differences.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Here's a challenge for you. Given our interractions here on the wonderful world of YouTube, what would you say my sun sign is.
Guess, and I'll tell you if you're right.
[PS: Please stop with the malarky about metaphysics. If it was real, yes we would be able to discover it, the way we discovered gravity. But gravity is testable. Astrology is not, and has had at least two millennia to be tested and verified.]
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Astrology is more than sunsigns. My mother has Sun in Gemini, and my mother is not the typical Gemini. She has Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio.....that indicates a highly emotional,ultrasensitive nature which she does have. Even her Sun in Gemini is trine Neptune,and so similar to Sun in Pisces. Her Sun is sextile/parallel Pluto,and that's similar to my Sun in Scorpio.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Just answer the question.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
In other words, you ARE comparing us to the doctors you claim misdiagnosed you on purely racial grounds [a rather spurious claim at that] because we think your beliefs just don't pass the scientific criteria.
This is pretty low, don't you think?
You can believe whatever junk you want to—so far it's a free country where you live [I hope]. But right to believe does not make the belief valid.
Believing in something doesn't validate the belief.
Repeat that thought until you get it.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I didn't say they misdiagnosed me on purely racial grounds. I said that psychiatrists do have a history of misdiagnosing ethnic minorities..especially blacks. I said that they misdiagnosed me because of my cluttering speech which was Dyslexic,Dyspraxic related. They didn't bother to ask me if I had a history of speech therapy nor special education. They just judged me by my speech just like so-called normal children judged me as retarded because of my speech when I was a littele kid.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Disorders of the mind are not judged strictly on speech patterns. A doctor is also looking for other things. Things that are too subtle for you or someone else to notice that a trained professional would.
You think it's speech. The doctor'll say it's more than just that.
And I'll tell you it likely had nothing to do with race [which so far seems to be what you're saying—that this supposed history of racially-based diagnosis is why you're diagnosed so].
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Oh yes....they do...a psychiatrist pointed out to me about my speech. It was recorded on my medical record. I know because I read it. They never did any psychological testing. They didn't bother to look into other causes.
Years later, neurologists confirmed my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. Unlike the psychiatrists,they did testing. They told me that I wasn't suffering from the stuff that the psychiatrists labeled me.
I didn't say that my diagnosis had anything to do with race. I already said that.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Psychiatrists have a history of misdiagnosing based on race.
You say you're of African descent [as well as other races].
You were diagnosed with a disorder [several].
What conclusion are we supposed to draw, since you're a minority race and a mental health consumer if it wasn't "they based the diagnosis on race"?
Something else equally absurd?
[Face it. You lost the debate now you have to change it to one you CAN win.]
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I am a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADD of multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry and I was misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective bipolar disorder by psychiatrists in 1999. I was confirmed to have Dyslexia and Dyspraxia by Veteran Affairs neurologists in 2006.
this is my Veteran Affairs neurological testing
I said that they misdiagnosed me based on my speech.....not race.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
there are lot of ethnic minorities..especially blacks that have been psychiatrically misdiagnosed.
a lot of neurodivergents have been misdiagnosed too. The symptoms of the neurodivergent conditions and psychiatric disorders overlap. That's why both psychological testing and neurological testing should be done. You can't judge a book by its cover. I was misplaced with the mentally retarded in 1st grade because of my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. They found out that I have above average intelligence.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
What then is the point of bringing up your own race in a discussion on whether psychiatrists tend to misdiagnose people of non-caucasian races if your own race was not a factor in your diagnosis?
[I offered to leave you alone, then you bring up a new set of nonsense that I felt needed to be responded to.
I feel I should have to confiscate your shovel.]
frostfoxen 4 years ago
There is nothing wrong bringing up my multiethnic background in a discussion. It's who I am. I am not ashamed of it.
I clearly stated that my speech problems were the main factor in my misdiagnosis. I never said race.
I just pointed that misdiagnoses do happen. I pointed out that many ethnic minorities..especially blacks are misdiagnosed. I pointed out that many neurodivergents are misdiagnosed.
That's not nonsense. I never had a shovel. Therefore,no need to confiscate what I never had.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
For someone who works in an "industry" full of metaphors you seem unable to recognise one.
You say psychiatrists misdiagnose people of other races. You say you're of a non-Caucasian race. You say you're diagnosed with mental health problems.
You even liken us to those people who misdiagnose. Because we think astrology is bunk.
What possible conclusion are we supposed to draw from this if it is not the conclusion[s] we are drawing [or I am drawing, to be more precise]?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
PS: Your ethnicity is only relevant to you it has no relevancy to us. It was never relevant at all. Ever. Except to you. You're trying to compare us to psychiatrists who misdiagnose people of non-Caucasian descent. You're telling us we're closed-minded and other yawners. Why bother bringing this all up? It's not relevant to us. We don't care what ethnicity you are so what's the point?
Oh, wait. I know. It's an effort to make us feel bad for saying "mean things" about your beliefs, right?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Please don't be patronizing,condescending.
I was trying to make a point that doctors,psychiatrist make mistakes too,but psychiatry is not bogus. There are people who make mistakes in other professions and hurt people.
I also try to make a point that many people have been victimized because they have natures,appeareances,views and/or beliefs,and practices that aren't of the mainstream. There is a lot of intolerance of diversity. A lot of intolerance of people that are different.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Psychiatry: Not bogus.[Like race and disability you're using psychiatry as something with which to give yourself credibility.]
Astrology: Bogus. It's not a real science. Or even a science period.
Psychiatry is valid. Astrology is not valid. It fails every attempt to test it.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
in the past, mainstream pagans have persecuted Christians. Then when Christians became in the majority,pagans and other nonbelievers were persecuted. If you had views that went against the mainstream,you were seen as heretic,tortured,even put to death.
To this very day,many people of various religions give others a hard time for not believing/practicing what they do. That's the same thing that many scientists,rationalists do. It's all the same....it's bigotry. It's intolerance of diversity
fomalhauto 4 years ago
First we had the disorder card. Then the ethnicity card. Then the misdiagnosis card. Now it's the persecution card.
We're not intolerant I just told you at least twice you can believe anything you want to believe.
Where is the intolerance in that statement?
Is it in my saying that all beliefs are not equal and that freedom to believe does not validate a belief?
Your intellectual bankruptcy knows no bounds does it?
frostfoxen 4 years ago 2
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See....there you go being condescending and patornizing....telling me that I have intellectual bankruptcy because I don't share your beliefs,views,and opinions.
a long time ago, scientists thought that blacks were genetically inferior and that they were less intelligent than whites. a lot time ago, psychiatrists believed that blacks were naturally volatile and had primitive emotions.
autistic spectrum disorders were once thought to be a form of schizophrenia.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Scientific racism played a role in establishing Apartheid in South Africa. In South Africa, white scientists, like Dudly Kidd, who published The essential Kafir in 1904, sought to "understand the African mind." They believed that the cultural differences between whites and blacks in South Africa might be caused by physiological differences in the brain. He described Africans as at once "hopelessly deficient," yet "very shrewd."
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Early anthropologists such as Josiah Clark Nott, George Robins Gliddon, Robert Knox, and Samuel George Morton aimed to prove scientifically that Negroes were not the same species as white people. After the Civil War, Southern physicians wrote many texts outlining scientific studies claiming freed blacks were dying out, implying blacks benefited from slavery.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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The term "autistic" was first used in 1912 by psychiatrist Dr. Eugen Bleuler to describe some people who were then diagnosed with schizophrenia; their behavior seemed as if they were "disengaged from everything except their internal world." In Chapter 2, "Theme and Variation: The 'Discovery' of Autism" of Unstrange Minds: Remapping the World of Autism (2007), anthropologist Roy Richard Grinker notes that "large numbers of people with autism would be diagnosed as 'schizophrenic
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Some, mostly in the United States, aimed to scientifically justify African enslavement to quell moral questions raised by the Atlantic slave trade. Alexander Thomas and Samuell Sillen described Black men as uniquely fitted for bondage due to their "primitive psychological organization."[23] In 1851, antebellum Southern physician Samuel A. Cartwright (1793-1851) of Louisiana considered the attempts of slaves to gain freedom as a treatable mental illness he named "drapetomania".
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Both the DSM-I (1952) and the DSM-II (1968) do not mention autism as a distinct syndrome; autism is mentioned as "Schizophrenic reaction, childhood type" and "Schizophrenia, childhood type." The DSM-III (1980) provides specific diagnostic criteria for Infantile Autism. In the past, autistic individuals might have received a diagnosis of schizophrenia (or mental retardation, or something else); they could not be diagnosed with autism because it did not exist as a diagnostic category.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Some publications, such as the Mankind Quarterly, have been accused of systematically publishing racist research. The Mankind Quarterly is an anthropology journal that contains articles on human evolution, intelligence, ethnography, language, mythology, archaeology, and race. The journal publishes work they feel would otherwise be suppressed due to what they call the political domination of the scientific enterprise by "liberals, Communists and Jews."
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Scientists have came up with "evidence" about certain things in the past,and they have been wrong. They used research to validate their erroneous theories. Ignorance..even bigotry has influenced their studies as it did with racism and autism. Psychiatrists have a history of misdiagnosing people too.
Even now its found out that antidepressants don't work unless for people with very severe depression. Scientists don't have all the answers. They don't know everything. So many things unknown.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Contemporary researchers who have been described as scientific racists include Arthur Jensen (The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability), J. Philippe Rushton, president of the Pioneer Fund (Race, Evolution, and Behavior), Chris Brand, Richard Lynn(IQ and the Wealth of Nations), Charles Murray, and Richard Herrnstein (The Bell Curve), among others.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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I am not post any more. You are guys are more like cynics than skeptics. You tell people that they are intellectually bankrupt, and are very condescending and patronizing. If you criticize something that you don't study. BTW...Astronomer,Dr. Percy Seymour wrote about a book about scientific evidence for Astrology,and he was given a hard time by his peers. People who think outside the box and have ideas that aren't of the mainstream aren't necessary stupid nor crazy. Remember that.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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I will leave you condescending,patronizing,intellectual snobs alone. BTW....I believe in diversity. I don't matter what it is. I don't believe in putting people down because they are different from me. As a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADD person of multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry who doesn't fit male stereotypes, I believe that all people should be treated equal because all people are equal.
Goodbye
fomalhauto 4 years ago
it was accepted by the scientists that larger heads meant more intelligence. When they obtained their data proving that white people had larger heads than black people, they knew they had proven that white people were more intelligent. They never questioned that the assumption of "large head = intelligent" might have been wrong. They proved their theories with unrelated facts.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Scientists tried different comparisons between races, such as skull size, skull shape, and arm length to establish differences between races. A larger skull would mean more intelligence; a skull with the front larger than the back would indicate an emphasis on the "intelligent part" of the brain; and longer arms would indicate a resemblance to lower primates, such as apes.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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mistrust of doctors, biased tests and the internet have bred myths about the condition.
At a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, researchers presented reports showing that even people with autism who do not speak can have above-average intelligence.
Mottron believes the wrong intelligence tests are used to assess autistic children.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Meredyth Goldberg Edelson, a professor of psychology at Willamette University in Oregon, reviewed 215 articles published over the past 71 years, all making or referring to this link between autism and mental retardation. She found that most of the papers (74 percent) lacked their own research data to back up the assumption. Thirty-nine percent of the articles weren't based on any data, and even the more rigorous studies often used questionable measures of intelligence.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Mike Merzenich, a professor of neuroscience at UC San Francisco, says the notion that 75 percent of autistic people are mentally retarded is "incredibly wrong and destructive." He has worked with a number of autistic children, many of whom are nonverbal and would have been plunked into the low-functioning category. "We label them as retarded because they can't express what they know,"
fomalhauto 4 years ago
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Autism and Asperger's syndrome are quite frequently misdiagnosed as other conditions. These include Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Attention Deficit Disorder (with and without hyperactivity), Oppositional-Defiant Disorder, mental retardation, sensory impairments, and childhood schizophrenia.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
you can check my neurological testing documents
by checking my yahoo profile, astynaz.....then click on the homepage and you will be at my photo album...once you there, then go down to "My Learning Disability Stuff" and click on it. Then you will see all my ADHD assessment,Dr Levinson testing,and my Veteran Affairs neurological/neuropsychological testing.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Get this into your head: WE DON'T CARE. We don't care WHAT your ethnicity is. We don't care if you have ADD or ADHD or HD-DVD. This ISN'T ABOUT YOU. It's about the EVIDENCE.
The evidence--every single piece of it--says that astrology is bogus.
shanedk 4 years ago
There is no need to be condescending and patronizing which you are being right now and which you appear to be in your videos.....thinking that if people don't share your mainstream views,beliefs,and practices because you then that they are stupid and putting people down. I have a big problem with people like you.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
You have the right to believe any crazy nonsense you want. You want to believe the Earth is flat, or has a hollow core, or that it is the centre of the universe? Knock yourself out.
But your right to believe doesn't make your belief a valid belief.
And if someone challenges you to explain or justify why you believe it, trying to tell us we're intolerant and closed-minded [AFTER I say you can believe whatever you want] is absurd. Or some term that Shanedk can think of because it's escaping me.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
It's not crazy nonsense just like many religious,spirtiual beliefs aren't crazy nonsense. I don't believe that the Earth is flat,has a hollow coar,nor that it is a the center of the universe.
Your right to believe doesn't make your belief a valid belief either.
all you people do is consdescend and patronize and talk down to people. you people aren't skeptics at all. You people are cynics.
Those are my beliefs,opinions,and beliefs.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
We're condescending and meanie heads because we disagree with your beliefs.
You're an intellectual embarrassment.
Please. Let's just drop this OK? You're running out of arguments [actually you ran out of them somewhere around or before noon] and I'm running out of patience.
frostfoxen 4 years ago 3
Rapid speech is a symptom of mania, but it's related to cluttering which is common with neurodivergent people. tangential,disorganized speech is a symptom of schizophrenia...the disorganized type. That's also cluttering speech.
poor coordination,left/right confusion,memory issues,disorganization including speech are symptoms of not only psychotic disorders but also neurodivergent conditions like Dyspraxia.
sensory integration issues are common in neurodivergent conditions too
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Meanwhile, in reality land, the real reason that people are the way they are is because of genetics and environmental experiences during various stages of their development, both in and ex-utero.
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago 5
If anyone really wants to appreciate the universe and happen to live in a city with no planetarium [and don't have access to a car], to just look up Hubble pictures in Google Pictures [or any other search engine], and you'll see marvels your newspaper's horoscope column can't provide. It's never failed to impress me just how magnificent our universe really is, and that we have the mind to truly appreciate it.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
You can also download Stellarium. It's free, and it's amazing!
shanedk 4 years ago
I downloaded it earlier, and when I can, I'll be poking around at it. But the thought of Stellarium [and Hubble et all] made me ask myself a little while ago this question: with new planets being discovered outside the Sol system regularly, how long do you think it'll take astrologers to incorporate them to the point where the natal chart is an even BIGGER incomprehensible mess than it already is? Or will brevity demand they keep this tosh simple?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I can't even get a straight answer from them as to why they count Pluto and not Eris.
shanedk 4 years ago
Some astrologers are doing research on Eris. I have been doing it too. Let let me tell you....mainstream astrologers act the same way skeptics do when astrologers use objects other than the major planets. I am one of the minority of astrologers who don't view Pluto as a planet. I also expressed my belief that Ceres and Pluto should be equals.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
"Some astrologers are doing research on Eris."
Why would they HAVE to? If it has an effect on people, shouldn't they have noticed it a long time ago? Shouldn't they have predicted a body where Eris is with its orbital period? Same with Ceres.
They either have an effect, or they don't. If they have an effect, they should have seen it a long time ago. If they don't, astrology is bunk.
shanedk 4 years ago
Pwned by Shanedk!
frostfoxen 4 years ago
No ....he's just expressing a viewpoint which I don't agree with.
Skepticism is a belief system too,and it can be similar to religion
"Their opinions are right, the others are wrong." skepticism and religion can have that in common.
To each his/her own,that's my belief.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
"Skepticism is a belief system too,and it can be similar to religion"
No, it isn't. Skepticism is based on evidence. Religion is based on DENYING evidence. Pretending that two people saying "I'm right, you're wrong" are the same when one has the evidence on his side and the other doesn't is pure intellectual dishonesty.
shanedk 4 years ago
scep·ti·cism n. 2. Philosophy. 1. The ancient school of Pyrrho of Elis that stressed the uncertainty of our beliefs in order to oppose dogmatism. 2. The doctrine that absolute knowledge is impossible, either in a particular domain or in general. 3. A methodology based on an assumption of doubt with the aim of acquiring approximate or relative certainty. 3. Doubt or disbelief of religious tenets.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
I challenge you to find ONE prominent skeptic (Dawkins, Randi, whoever) who will agree that skepticism isn't based on examining the evidence.
You fall back on the dictionary, which doesn't define anything but merely report usage, to try and LIE about what someone believes. It's pathetically dishonest. If you want to know what a skeptic is, ask a skeptic.
You're just making pathetic excuses. EVERYTHING in my videos is based on the evidence. Deal with it.
shanedk 4 years ago
Please don't be condescending,patronizing to me.
Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that you have talk down to people. As a person with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADD, I don't believe in treating people like they are stupid because I know how that feels like. People shouldn't be dissed because they don't share your beliefs.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Oh goodie the "I have a disorder!" card! Because you've got ADD and other disorders we have to be nice!
Neither I nor Shanedk said anything about your disorders. Heck we were addressing the topic of debate, which may suprise you is not about you but astrology.
Notice we say that ASTROLOGY is bunk. I have not said that YOU were bunk.
Okay. I'll be nice and leave you alone rather than listen to any crying. However, I still say astrology is false.
And that all beliefs are not equal.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
my point is that I am not condescending and patronizing because of my experiences. I don't like peole who patronize and condescend. That's what I was trying to make. My experiences made me humble and want to treat others like I want to be treated. It also taught me lessons about tolerance of diversity. Even my multiethnic Black,White,Hispanic,Native American ancestry factors into my tolerating diversity and treating others like I want to be treated....a fellow human being with a soul.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
It's not being patronizing or condescending to jump on someone who's trying to misrepresent what and who one is. You are absolutely misrepresenting skeptics, and as I said, I challenge you to find ONE prominent skeptic who agrees with you.
shanedk 4 years ago
Hey.....I am just expressing my opinions just like you are. That's not a crime. You constantly diss people because of what they practice because it doesn't concur with what you think is not real.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
You make it sound like doubt is a bad thing. As is scepicism?
Surely you doubt things too? Are you not sceptical about things?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I was skeptical of Astrology until 1998 at the age of 28 years old. I found out about moonsigns,and I found out that my moonsign iss Pisces. I even had an accurate hunch about my mother's moonsign being Scorpio. That reflects her having same traits as my Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio even though she has Sun in Gemini. My father and my maternal grandfather had Moon in Pisces which I was right about. I was atheist for 2 yrs until my grandfather's death that led me on spiritual search
fomalhauto 4 years ago
His viewpoint is backed up by evidence.
I want to see the evidence backing up this synchronicity notion.
[Heck I want to see something showing me that astrology is not an exercise in confirmation bias.]
It made a great song title, but what's out there to show me that synchronicity is not just a fancy, New Age-y way of saying "coincidence"?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Shanedk.
They say the sun and the moon are planets.
I think that says something RE the status of Pluto and Eris.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I was wondering how James Young got ten planets...
shanedk 4 years ago
Fomalhauto, you are deliberately equivocating. Don't conflate philosophical skepticism and scientific skepticism. They are not even remotely close.
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago
@unhealthytruthseeker
please don't tell me what I should do.
you have your views,and I have mine like all human beings
fomalhauto 11 months ago
@fomalhauto And your beliefs entitle you to deliberately conflate two different positions in a dishonest manner?
unhealthytruthseeker 11 months ago
also....many astrologers believe in synchronicity and not cause and effect....so believe that a heavenly body event is meaningfully paralleled with terrestrial life experiences.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
And yet we're told that if say Mars is making an unfavourable angle to another planet, bad things happen.
While ignoring all those times when Mars was making unfavourable angles with the same planet and nothing bad happened.
Astrology: A working example of confirmation bias.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
Cosmobiologists and Uranian astrologers believe that the hard aspects(conjunctions,oppositions,squares,semisquares,sesquiquadrates)
involved with planetary aspects are in synchronicity concrete events. They don't believe that they are just challenging. I don't believe in good and bad aspects in Astrology. I am looking into the golden section aspects that Theodor Landscheidt came up. Those are aspects based on golden ratio.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
So why do we say that a bad angle correlates to negative events, even if something positive [or more importantly, many positive events] occur when planets form "hard aspects"?
Why say it's "synchronicity" at all? If I won the lottery when my natal Mars was making a hard aspect to Jupiter, wouldn't that be "synchronicity" too?
Again. Confirmation bias.
frostfoxen 4 years ago
I don't believe in good and bad angles myself. I told you about that in regards to cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology. Another thing too is that there can be some easy aspects at time when there are hard aspects. There is not only the transits,but also secondary progressions and solar arcs. Yeah...transiting Jupiter in hard aspect to natal Mars isn't necessarily bad. Like I said, hard aspects could indicate concrete events.....also Jupiter is also known as a benefic.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
Could =/= does.
Easy cancelling bad. How do I know that this is so? What if there was nothing but "hard angles" that day when I won the lottery?
Shouldn't that count?
Looking for good and bad events occuring and then discarding the good to support the notion that Mars square Jupiter = bad is confirmation bias.
Saying that angles between planets in the sky is synchronicity is looking for meaningful coincidences.
Why can't astrologers just admit that it's all coincidence?
frostfoxen 4 years ago
just because they are time twins doesn't mean that they will have same experiences....the parents won't have the same charts...so the synastry between A and his parents and the synastry between B and his parents would be different. so there can be different biological interactions which can lead to different upbringing...also...the time twins can have interactions with many different people.
fomalhauto 4 years ago
That was awesome, you should have your own televised show.
WizardJim 4 years ago
By now I've watched quite a few of your videos. Loved the ending of this one.
You got yourself a new sub.
CapnOrdinary 4 years ago
For a long time I was very mush against astrology. And i used to make fun of people who where into it. I useed to say how can every person on earth be based on only 12 archtypes. Then in 2001 I went on line to try and debunk it, but the observational evidence was overwhelming in favour of it. I was honest and i used my own chart as a base then branched out from there.
spartacus6839 4 years ago
Evidence can be found through observation. Picking and proding something to see how it reacts. The astrological chart fits the person exactly, if it dosent then the astrologer has not yet reached a competent stage. At Astrology (dot, u know what) you can see your chart and start from there. Then google some of your aspects, but it will be lacking as it is just computer based.
spartacus6839 4 years ago
Then explain the time-twins study.
shanedk 4 years ago
There is no physical change in the body that could support the twin theory of time because the ship must be air tight and resistant to all outside influences. To use the effect of light as a standard for time does not prove any physical change to a human body encapsulated in a ship no matter how fast the ship travels.
EGMAG 4 years ago
shanedk Then explain the time-twins study.<< I just did. Elucidating further. We base time on action or events such as light per or particle decay per [usually sec or nano seconds.} So if no events took place in the universe and it froze still than time would keep passing regardless. In order not to age there must be a different action on the human metabolism and there just isn't in the twin study other than speed in a controlled earth environment spaceship!
EGMAG 4 years ago
Follow me on this: astrology says that the time of your birth dictates certain personality traits. A comprehensive 40-year study of thousands of people, unrelated but for the fact that they were born within 1 minute of each other, show no more similarities than people born at vastly different times.
Your response, therefore, doesn't explain the study in any way. It's just gobbledygook.
shanedk 4 years ago
shanedk (time of your birth << What does this have to do with the twin experiment?
EGMAG 4 years ago
That's what the time-twins study WAS! I just summarized it for you!
shanedk 4 years ago
What about the filaments in the enhanced moon photos of the sun. You actually see filaments centers of spotlights rather than the sun.
EGMAG 4 years ago
That's what the time-twins study WAS! I just summarized it for you!
You did nothing of the sort --I summarized its bogosity snivel!
EGMAG 4 years ago
>>shanedkYour response, therefore, doesn't explain t <<Your brain is gobbledygook. Gomer Pyle idiot. I DEFINITELY explained it and Poor Einstein would back me up on it!
EGMAG 4 years ago
Your posts are getting more and more unintelligible. Einstein would have NEVER backed astrology, the time-twins study PROVES astrology is bogosity, and I have NO CLUE what you're talking about with "moon photos of the sun."
shanedk 4 years ago
>>shanedk I have NO CLUE fuck astrology<< Here is a CLUE--"STOP SMOKING WEED" You are blithering and can not comprehend like you used too!
EGMAG 4 years ago
Hey EGMAG, time-twin study =/= twin paradox!
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago
twins remain the same age because their are no physical effects on their bodies, that can accellerate and or decellerate aging.
EGMAG 2 years ago
Newsaper sun based astrology is not astrology. The whole chart needs to be studied and that takeds time. Ive been studying astrology now for 1 hour a day for the last 5 years and im only just getting into the stage where im competent at it. You have to start with you own birth chart and work from there.
spartacus6839 4 years ago
I'm trying not to get involved where splitting hairs is concerned. But the vast majority of skeptics are atheists and atheists are scared or beleiving in anything other than once your dead you cease to exist. So they will put up a barrier to anything that dosent fit into there dead zone, including astrology.
spartacus6839 4 years ago
We aren't scared of anything. We just want evidence.
shanedk 4 years ago
shanedkwant evidence<<
.Reputable scientists have given you Nasa's moon walks conspiracy evidence and you blindly ignore it.
EGMAG 4 years ago
I have yet to see ONE reputable scientist support the moon hoax conspiracy. ALL of them, from all over the globe, INCLUDING the Soviets, accept that we landed on the moon.
Get over it.
shanedk 4 years ago
shanedk ONE reputable scientist<<
Well we are in sick shape if you consider yourself a reputable scientist with all your rantings and railings instead of civilized discussion. You "blindly" ignore common sense logic and true evidence and go for what you think is patriotism when it is anti-patriotism in the present age to believe in an impossible moon mission in 1969! Get down with it.
EGMAG 4 years ago
It is far from impossible. It is quite possible, it was done, and any scientist with the relevant knowledge and experience will tell you so. You prate on with your insults and empty appeals to logic because you have no real evidence and no real logic to back you up.
The moon hoaxers have GOT to be the most pathetic of all conspiracy mongers.
shanedk 4 years ago
shanedk pathetic mongers.<<Alright I had enough of this! In reality you seem to be a very intelligent person!"If" I insult it is just jokes so don't take it seriously. I really know that the conspirators are NASA elite. You really have to stop shunning the preponderance of evidence and give a "FAIR" shake to both sides and examine them ""diligently"" before you scream statements of absolute knowing all over the YouTube.
EGMAG 4 years ago
There is NO evidence of a conspiracy or a hoax! NONE WHATSOEVER! The hoax nuts come up with literally hundreds of claims and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS WRONG! You don't even need much of an education to see that they're wrong!
The USSR, Jodrell Bank, all of the amateur astronomers who TRACKED THE APOLLO SPACECRAFT, these aren't NASA elites! In the case of the USSR, they would have LOVED to claim it was a fake! They got egg on their face! THINK!!!
shanedk 4 years ago
shanedk TRACKED AP SPACECRAFT<< Tracked it up and into orbit around the earth the rest was beamed in via satellite in line with the moon. Gullible shanedk?
EGMAG 4 years ago
Don't be a moron. They could easily tell the difference between a satellite and a spacecraft at the moon because the satellite would appear at different angles around the world relative to the moon.
You'd have to be really pathetically STUPID not to understand that!
shanedk 4 years ago
You are a complete idiot and I hope NASA stops paying you. Only when the sateliteS was inline of the moon and earth would the signals be sent.
EGMAG 4 years ago
shanedk NO evidence<<
What about the filaments in the enhanced moon photos of the sun. You actually see filaments centers of spotlights rather than the sun.
EGMAG 4 years ago
The moon hoaxers have a point with some of the photographic evidence but after a little research I concluded that the moon landings happened -- NASA just touched up the photographs to make them look better before publicly releasing them.
For it to have been hoaxed then close to a million people were in on it from all across the globe with most outside NASA. Think about it.
themadhair 4 years ago
And these "touch-ups" were nothing more than things like color-correcting, which every photographer does.
Also, the Soviets would have to be in on the conspiracy as well. Riiiiight!!!
shanedk 4 years ago
Dwads and decons for the second time. If your wife is a virgo and she never displays qualities like that, then you need to look at the whole chart. Scientific observation..
spartacus6839 4 years ago
Except that you said that ALL Virgos are like this. You're not being at all scientific; you're making up excuses after the fact.
Whenever astrologers are asked to write up a chart without meeting the person in question, they do no better than guessing. That's why they won't take the challenge.
shanedk 4 years ago
In the 1st part he says "confusing words"... I love it. The skeptic has no idea of what he is talking about. In the middle part he talks about twins. There birth is not the same even if it is only a few mins apart. Dwads and decons need to be considered. But he wouldnt know this as he is UNEDUCATED.....And at the end he tries to get emotional, like a little girl... LOL. But of course we all know that newspaper astrology is not real astrology, dont we? Please say yes to at least that..
spartacus6839 4 years ago
Ah, very nice. Personal insults instead of rational rebuttals. Thank you for showing your true colors, and how much of a proper defense the astrology buffs can put on: NONE AT ALL.
shanedk 4 years ago
Oh, and what about the study where they compared time twins born within ONE MINUTE of each other? They still found NONE of the similarities astrologers say should be there. They were just as alike and just as different as unrelated people born at completely different times.
shanedk 4 years ago
So all of you razor sharp intelectual, can never be fooled skeptics. Have never noticed that Geminies like to talk, gossip and gather facts. That all virgoes are usually clean, analytical and anal. That areis people like to jump into things then lose interest quickly etc, etc. So you have gone through most of your life and not noticed these things? Maybe the science of observation is necessary.
spartacus6839 4 years ago
My first wife was a Virgo. She was NOTHING like that. Premise falsified; astrology is bunk.
shanedk 4 years ago
Actually, Virgos are only impeccably neat and tidy IF they can stay on top of everything. Virgo demands perfection or bust. Which means: if it cannot be perfect, then let it be chaos. It is all or nothing, feast or famine. Which is why Virgo is followed in the zodiac by Libra -- the quest for balance.
bwt66 4 years ago
Yeah, very nice. Was she tall and short, too?
shanedk 4 years ago
Actually, any decent astrologer should be able to look at your chart and your ex-wife's chart together and take a good stab at why you are ex-es, beyond the simplistic observation that Leo and Vrigo do not mix.
bwt66 4 years ago
Are all Virgos lying child-abusers?
shanedk 4 years ago
Are you saying your ex-wife was a lying child-abuser? That's sad. But no, Sun Virgos are not normally like that. And it is a mistake to generalise from one point (the Sun) in Virgo to the whole person. Again: horoscopes and sun-sign astrology are low expressions. It's the same as the gap between how many people know the Lord's Prayer and how many can recite the Book of Job. Or the gap between how many people know E=mc^2 and how many can *explain* it!
bwt66 4 years ago
"And it is a mistake to generalise from one point (the Sun) in Virgo to the whole person."
Gee, I guess you shouldn't have said ALL Virgos, then...
And one doesn't need to explain E=mc^2 to see that it's confirmed.
shanedk 4 years ago
And I said "ALL Virgos" .... where??
bwt66 4 years ago
In the very post that started this thread.
shanedk 4 years ago
Not me.
bwt66 4 years ago
10 out of 10 for this video.
zzytrewq 4 years ago
3×(☆☆☆☆☆)
Thank you, Shane.
leporidus 4 years ago
Awesome! I particularly like how you close (from 4:30 on) and couldn't agree with you more. I have loved studying astronomy from the first time I looked up.
Fortune telling aside, astrology is a great way to look at our place in space/time with cool imagery and story. - I'm not articulating this very well but theres a character limit here.
dhillbilly 4 years ago
excellent!
jasonhoblin 4 years ago
Awesome sets of videos. As i put in part 2, if only people would just THINK about things...
torgamus2 4 years ago
shanedk, GREAT video!
AquaOceanWave 4 years ago
What a truly wonderful video - thank you. To James Young and astrologers like him: it's time to take courage and come out of the darkness into the light. We would all applaud you for it.
BananaJimbo 4 years ago
excuse me...I have something in my eye...
punnet2 4 years ago
This is the scary thing. People base life decisions on this stuff. I used to have some belief in astrology as well (also psychic powers, etc) - it was quite a shocking revelation when I began to look more closely at it and realise how ridiculous the whole thing actually is.
UncleFeedle 4 years ago
A really good study because it also adresses Mr Young's favourite issue, the paranormal. Most astrologers do claim that there is a connection.
The reason why there is no real connection is because both are bogosity, both lack proof of any kind.
lovasip 4 years ago
The paranormal! Have Young or Chadbourne used that to describe astrology yet? They might have to soon since they're running out of definitions!
UncleFeedle 4 years ago