it seems to me that aerosol spraying would put a blanket over around the earth like they are doing with geo engineering (chem spraying) science and common sense tells me if im cold, wrap me in a blanket,if mother earth is warming...take the blanket OFF!
Fouling up the atmosphere is what got us into this mess, so let's dump more chemicals into the air. Chemicals that diminish our health and kill plantlife, make birds drop from the sky, wipe out the bee population... Brilliant fucking plan.
Ken Caldeira is a well-respected scientist in his field and tries to have no affiliation to politics to make sure that FACTS stay as FACTS and not get misinterpreted by the public.
To the people that blindly put condescend him either on a personal level or on a intellectual level: You disgust me. You obviously don't look into primary literature, but research newspaper or opinionated articles that contain biased information.
When I mean primary, I mean academic journals... not Beck or MSNBC.
Global climate change is the greatest extensional crisis humanity has ever faced. Obviously, there are many people without scientific backgrounds who argue that it isn’t happening. To listen to these opinions is akin to listening to your grandmother about cancer; she may have intuition, but she’s not a doctor.
Ken Caldiera is asking important research questions. If the planet heats rapidly, what can we do about it? What preparations can we make? What will the side effects be?
This vid ties in quite nicely with the 2003 article by Bruce Conway, THE CHEMTRAIL SMOKING GUN, which gives extensive proof of government involvement, funding, sponsorship, multidisciplinary research, policy making and implementation of global atmospheric modification under the classification of 'Geoengineering.'
Somebody should kill Governor Christie of NJ. That fat fucking bastard has the nerve to pollute the world more with nuclear power plants. It will be his own fault if people rise up and blowtorch that guy's brains out or forcing higher costs, pollution cleanup, devalued homes, and less freedom & more taxes on everyone.
Only politically correct assholes would get upset. Too bad: it's freedom of speech. It's the law.
I am all for bionanoengineering better humans, and mandating that all non-vegetarians and all non-atheists be tortured, castrated so they can't breed, and executed. But, not all ideas will work.
I do not agree with this guy's particular suggestion, but unlike the GW deniers, he has the GUTS to stand up for his original unpopular beliefs instead of being brainwashed by the Republicrat party & oil & coal companies with their anti-enviro religious dogma.
The anti-enviro wackos force their politically correct bullshit, telling me I should be loyal to the military, even though the military raises my taxes because they shit TRILLIONS of $ each year. But, when a TRIVIAL amount of taxes are used to do good - such as fight GW - the super-hypocrite anti-enviros attack environmentalist.
Don't fucking tell me whom I should be loyal to. I can be loyal to Peta & Greenpeace. I fully support War for Animal Rights & War for the Environment.
Please see my own videos on global warming for a very simple example of why even if both the highs & the lows decreased forever, that would not contradict GW. You can't just arbitrarily pick points on the temp vs time graph and make conclusions. You need to look at causes. Global climate scientists have done this, and combined the observed data with massive computer models that incorporate conservation laws (mass, momentum, energy). Deniers have not done that.
"as long as we're emitting some co2, there will be some warming"
There will always be fluctuation in temp. The volcanic activity alone is huge! I fall more to the side of reducing pollution mostly because I don't like it's effect. This guy is not a good one to ask. He just lost me. F&%$ it, I'm buying a Suburban!
That big bright Yellow thing in the sky that is hard to stare at......that is making the earth hotter. And then it cools down......and then it gets hotter.
It's been getting hotter since the last ICE AGE ASSHOLE
Another brilliant revelation that nobody knew. Really? There's been cycles in climate? Gosh, I bet climate scientists didn't know that already. You better go enlighten them. BTW, what's an "ice age asshole?"
This 'solution' of putting 'particles' in the air is SO STUPID!!! And it is a HUGE coverup to justify chemtrails which is making everyone sicker, contamination our water and food.
These are atheists talking who do not believe in the true living God who can and will intervene IF there was something to fix.
This propaganda mumbo-gumbo is a pack of lies.
And UNPLUG YOUR TV IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY which is the most powerful brainwashing tool yet!
@CathyFromPensacola Only mentally inferior subhumans believe in "god" or whoever it or she is supposed to be. There is ZERO scientific proof for this fantasy god excrement. Meanwhile, PROVEN facts, like human-caused GW, are attacked by religionists. Why?
Because religionist are selfish evil hypocritical pieces of excrement, who have contributed NOTHING to civilization. They murder and torture, yet they are brainwashed into still being loyal to their religion.
I think it's dishonest to present geoengineering as some Messiah mechanism to save the world. It's risks and potential pitfalls should be clearly delineated, without ambiguity. Plus, it worries me a bit when Mr. Caldeira says: "It will likely negatively impact some people".
Find out who his colleagues and backers are, put them on a list then execute a citizen's arrest for crimes against humanity.
They are madmen and should be removed from society and put on trial, their chemtrails and HAARP have caused enough damage to the planet and has killed an uncounted number of people.
yes friend he is saying, give me tax money to pray the atmosphere. if not done now earth will fry up from heat, now remember haarp, so basically we are being threaten to support this idea or false the consequence of man made heat. Its been proven that our industrial history as humans on earth is a fraction of a percent of gases coming out of 1 volcano, thousands of real scientist are debunking this as a financial scam, or pretty green slavery to create huge monopolies enforced by the government
Wake up people.this moron is talking about chem trailing us to kingdom come. Spraying our cities with dangerous chemicals which eventually reach us..something already being done. Lets not brush aside he is representing the carnegie institute, an organization that is part of the establishment that is trying to reduce the amount of 'useless eaters' on earth...thats YOU
Does his "forecast for the century" include the fact that we are supposed to have passed peak oil production? I thought we were supposed to have run out of oil by then. That will pretty much take care of new CO2 in the air.
As for turning down the earth temperature, I'm thinking the world may be better off being a little warmer then being cooler. Warmer temperatures would increase food production. Overall cooling would decrease available agriculture areas and shorten growing seasons.
Where are people hearing this obtuse notion that temperatures or CO2 increase food production?
Higher temperatures place additional water / mineral stress in crops, areas often with lowering water tables. Bloom cycles are also adversely affected, as faster growth affects trace nutrients. Plants begin to limit photosynthetic function from 90F upwards, shutting down at 100F.
We already have a bubble economy as far as food and fuel is concerned - higher temps can only cause problems.
"peak oil production is just that... the peak of production (there's still oil, just less and less). "
The most alarming aspects of this are our modern rate of consumption (which is still increasing rapidly) and that our world infrastructure's dependendance on it.
If oil flow stopped tomorrow the global population would collapse within months.
No, CO2 is not just a byproduct of oil. It's a byproduct of mos any carbon-based combustible. Coal, Methane, Ethanol, Wood, Peat, Sugar.... all of it.
this is bullshit. oil companies are constantly raping the rain forest and this idiot is probably paid by them to spew verbal diarreha to make the people think its their fault. it s not our fault mr oil companies assholes, its your fault and we the people should be making you pay for destroying our environment. in fact you should pay for the destruction you have caused the world environment.
"this is bullshit. oil companies are constantly raping the rain forest and this idiot is probably paid by them to spew verbal diarreha "
What the hell are you talking about?
He is not denying climate change. He is talking out the lag between cause and effect and that we may have to take big risks in the period between to avert catastrophe. He's right on the money.
@TheGodlessGuitarist hes not talking about the real cause of the change in climate is he. are you saying the rainforest plays no part in the climate system? the earth has its own system, and the fucking oil companies is wrecking it.
"are you saying the rainforest plays no part in the climate system?"
Of course not. I'm totally with you on deforrestation, and yes the oil companies have a lot to answer for. One of the major issues is that many of the big oil companies are run by Muslim and Christian creationists, who either don't believe modern science or actually look forward to somekind of armageddon.
who gives a shit if jesus or frikken bin laden chopped down the trees. point is these rainforests are being destroyed for oil and not so bin laden can lay his carpet to kneel on whichever direction to mumble mumbo jumbo or jesus christ chopping trees to down to make room to build a church to fleece people of their hard earned money with a donation box.
to be fair though, doing such things is the equivalent of putting a sticker over the check engine light, such aerosols have their own issues. Basically this option is for buying time more than an actual solution.
@TheGodlessGuitarist I voted BOTH you and Snotrag2009 a thumbs up, because you BOTH have valid points.
However, that does NOT contradict any of my main belief: the dumbfuck world is polarized into those who support war for bad purposes - oil - vs those who oppose war for ANY reason - even good ones like the environment & animal rights.
Then dumbfucks the world over wonder why the FUCK the world never gets better.
The 911 hijackers caused less pain than 99% of world's population.
@anikinippon Actually, some new research indicates that is not the case, and that the rainforests give off a significant amount of O. Also, if the globe gets warmer coral reefs will start dying out, acidity of the oceans will rise, and they will produce less O. So, yeah
@doutonight What? What is the ocean made of? How are clouds made? You can't tell me that trees on the surface of the earth hold more water than the ocean.
@doutonight Evaporated water creates oxygen and ozone more than any other means. The ocean is the source of the majority of oxygen on the Earth, there you go.
This malevolent scumbag is a eugenicist at heart, he has the same mentality as Pol Pot or Dr Mengele. The environment is an excuse that these bastards use, you never hear them talk about real environmental issues.
@GOPsithlord Of course not. Breathing is a drop in the ocean compared to the tons of emissions spewing out of coal plants every day. How can anyone be in favor of dirty fuel in a world where clean and secure wind, solar, tidal, etc. power sources are available?
@Setrett I know was sounding a bit snide, but this is not that stark a choice and my answer has never been to completely favor one energy choice over another.
Do you know how little C02 from every breathing person compares to the entire volume and concentration of the atmosphere? The fact of the matter is that human actions such as urbanization and industrialization are a constant source of emission that is adding to the natural background of Green House Gases. It is not about saving the planet, we will all die way before we completely destroy the earth. So many people forget to look outside of the tiny human ant scale.
All you Al Gore Hacks that still cling onto Global Warming are nuts !!!! global Warming is a Hoax. One designed to remove you from your dollars !!!! Don't be a fool. These guys are not interested in anything but your cash.... WAKE UP>..
We have been geoengineering with aerosol programs for over a decade now and all it has done is poison our land, water, and the lungs and biosystems of all living things. How does Mr. Caldeira suggest we proceed?
If you are concerned about widespread famine, the last thing you should do is cool the planet. If the earth did warm, it would more likely enhance our ability to grow food.
Environmentalism is good. But the global warming fear mongering is disgusting. Politicians blow things out of proportion every day. They keep you in a state of fear, so you desperately give them more power to "save" you. How many times are you going to fall for the same tactic?
a warmer Earth would not enhance our ability to grow food in the long run. A warmer Earth would increase water vapor which would increase rainfall and snowfall, which would increase the albedo, or Sun 's reflection off of the Earth. This is exactly what brought about the last ice age and that isnt good for growing.
You just supported my argument that a cooler earth is worse for farming. There's always some far fetched hypothetical explanation of how current conditions will lead to the next "crisis." Overly simplified computer models developed to match the past, but never able to consistently & accurately predict the future. GOVERNMENTS CAUSED THE WORST FAMINES & MOST HUMAN CASUALTIES IN HISTORY when people believed their fear tactics & put faith in political rulers & the "scientists & economists" they paid
@truthadvocate Easy to blame scientists & economists. Why not blame the soldiers who defend nations that have unfair laws? No - that would be FAR too politically incorrect for you. All this religious brainwashing defends cops & soldiers. Tough shit: I'll be loyal to whomever I want: the IPCC, Peta. The ONE fucking time taxes might be used for GOOD - to make people pay for their negative actions - the deniers are up in arms. But they HATE money because they shit it away by voting Demopub.
@truthadvocate, right now it's 2.8 metric tons per person per year on average. 20T per person/year for Americans. I think each person should get to produce up to 2.8T free, but have to buy the credit to produce more than that from those who must then have produced less and have some of their credit left. (data source WolframAlpha) BTW, it's down from 3.5T/person just 20 years ago, but it was an exponential decline--the curve is near flat now.
If you can prove that the pollution I create causes physical damage to your property, then you can sue me for compensation. Otherwise, you have no right to control how I use my property. Carbon credit programs are unneccessary. Tort law already covers it.
Plus carbon credits are the equivalent of telling a man he can beat his wife beyond the acceptable limit as long as he pays someone who doesn't beat his wife.
It also gives way too much power to the government which is inherently corrupt.
Geoengineering... I can see it overshoot it's targets massively. We need to move away from catastrophist thinking, that the climate change is so alarming that it needs to be not only slowed down, but reversed and immediately at that. This is bad thinking. We better prepare for the "impact" it will have and work, like we always have, on cleaner and durable energy sources without clinging to the thought that it may be "too late" already. It's not. So far, nothing out of the ordinary is happening.
yeah let the factories keep doing their pollution it would be too expensive to force them to go clean plus their are so few factories. lets just got after humans and the meat they eat, while we are at it you pets are not save from this oh and the poor small farmers that have a few chickens.
Depleted Uranium - Agent Orange Soil saturations- farmland contaminated defomed generations - These were /are intentional killer pollutants . These climate idiots make me sick. I am sorry but I have just plain lost all respect for the blatant lying and manipulation.
Want to make a difference in the climate pollution . STOP BOMBING THE HELL OUT OF COUNTRIES AND THEIR PEOPLE AND REDUCING THEIR LIVES AND LANDS TO NOTHING. Screw you Ken...
What makes you think Ken is not in support of this either? I also fail to see how he is a liar, and for that fact any honest working researcher. He is a person presenting hypothesis that are peer reviewed and widely accepted. The scientific community would quickly find its shortcomings. Anyone can try to prove his work wrong, but I doubt you have the capacity to do so, other than using naive, bias, and idiotic rantings with no political or scientific background to back them up.
@boxcar12 Carnegie Institution ? Kenny work for them ? Do some homework. these "brilliant" minds are talking BS. Peer review . lol Lobbysist review. Carnegie .....lol Me thinks you the idiot sir or madame.
What about Carnegie Institution? Are you referring to the fact that it is located at Stanford University? What other facts are you referring to that I need to have "done my homework" for? Nothing from what you said was evidence towards your cause and is continuing to make you look like a blabber conspiracy theorist. Lets just say that the funders for his research are using him as there puppet. That still doesn't prevent scientists WORLDWIDE from refuting it or disproving hiswork
@boxcar12 Carnegie is Rockefeller's baby. If you don't know the tentacles of this "institution" then I suggest you start reading. Frankly I am tired of explaining this to people. Go along and believe what you like about anything you like. When Rockefeller is involved in anything it speaks volumes as to it's goals. Try just a wee bit of critical thinking here. These power people have polluted the world a million times over. The same people have a solution ? lol Damn ~ think !
hasnt he heard temperatures have gone down for the last 10 years , and there already chem trailing , this man doesnt sing very well even though his suppers on the line , what a twat and liar
@tonythatjesusloves wow big surprise someone who believes in imaginary friends denies the science of climate change as well you believe in the conspiracy of chemtrails. let me guess you deny evolution as well
`As long as we continue to emit [greenhouse gases], the Earth will continue warming.' Okay, but that doesn't mean that there's no safe threshold of emissions, which might be achieved without geoengineering. Consider, for instance, the recommendations of the IPCC; those don't suggest that geoengineering will likely be necessary, right?
it seems to me that aerosol spraying would put a blanket over around the earth like they are doing with geo engineering (chem spraying) science and common sense tells me if im cold, wrap me in a blanket,if mother earth is warming...take the blanket OFF!
remraf44 2 months ago
So this guy actively supporting chemtrails?
WOGI5M 7 months ago
Fouling up the atmosphere is what got us into this mess, so let's dump more chemicals into the air. Chemicals that diminish our health and kill plantlife, make birds drop from the sky, wipe out the bee population... Brilliant fucking plan.
LeonDeLaMole 1 year ago
^
Hey everybody! Look at the well-paid liar!
nerkyder 1 year ago
Ken Caldeira is a well-respected scientist in his field and tries to have no affiliation to politics to make sure that FACTS stay as FACTS and not get misinterpreted by the public.
To the people that blindly put condescend him either on a personal level or on a intellectual level: You disgust me. You obviously don't look into primary literature, but research newspaper or opinionated articles that contain biased information.
When I mean primary, I mean academic journals... not Beck or MSNBC.
thebarbaricwelshman 1 year ago
Global climate change is the greatest extensional crisis humanity has ever faced. Obviously, there are many people without scientific backgrounds who argue that it isn’t happening. To listen to these opinions is akin to listening to your grandmother about cancer; she may have intuition, but she’s not a doctor.
Ken Caldiera is asking important research questions. If the planet heats rapidly, what can we do about it? What preparations can we make? What will the side effects be?
Setrett 1 year ago
this guy is full of shit .
the earth has been cooling for the last decade, you new world order puppet
TheTruthRising 1 year ago
@TheTruthRising
bullshit. There are ups and downs, but the trend has been upwards.
The rate of increase has gone down in the last year, you know why? Economic recession.
Man, its so cool to find someone retarded enough not to believe in climate change. Honor to meet you.
nishantstanford 1 year ago
Ken has a mangina. And hairy tits.
MuammarAlGathafi 1 year ago
Evil Propaganda, these guys are nazis
aGlobalWarmingHOAX 1 year ago
This vid ties in quite nicely with the 2003 article by Bruce Conway, THE CHEMTRAIL SMOKING GUN, which gives extensive proof of government involvement, funding, sponsorship, multidisciplinary research, policy making and implementation of global atmospheric modification under the classification of 'Geoengineering.'
Sonoma chemtrails blogspot
CathyFromPensacola 2 years ago
Somebody should kill Governor Christie of NJ. That fat fucking bastard has the nerve to pollute the world more with nuclear power plants. It will be his own fault if people rise up and blowtorch that guy's brains out or forcing higher costs, pollution cleanup, devalued homes, and less freedom & more taxes on everyone.
Only politically correct assholes would get upset. Too bad: it's freedom of speech. It's the law.
duck24x 2 years ago
I am all for bionanoengineering better humans, and mandating that all non-vegetarians and all non-atheists be tortured, castrated so they can't breed, and executed. But, not all ideas will work.
I do not agree with this guy's particular suggestion, but unlike the GW deniers, he has the GUTS to stand up for his original unpopular beliefs instead of being brainwashed by the Republicrat party & oil & coal companies with their anti-enviro religious dogma.
duck24x 2 years ago
The anti-enviro wackos force their politically correct bullshit, telling me I should be loyal to the military, even though the military raises my taxes because they shit TRILLIONS of $ each year. But, when a TRIVIAL amount of taxes are used to do good - such as fight GW - the super-hypocrite anti-enviros attack environmentalist.
Don't fucking tell me whom I should be loyal to. I can be loyal to Peta & Greenpeace. I fully support War for Animal Rights & War for the Environment.
duck24x 2 years ago
Please see my own videos on global warming for a very simple example of why even if both the highs & the lows decreased forever, that would not contradict GW. You can't just arbitrarily pick points on the temp vs time graph and make conclusions. You need to look at causes. Global climate scientists have done this, and combined the observed data with massive computer models that incorporate conservation laws (mass, momentum, energy). Deniers have not done that.
nahaymath 2 years ago
Greenland sliding into the ocean?
MuammarAlGathafi 2 years ago
i drive a ford with a 7.5 liter v8 and proud
europeanssuckcock 2 years ago
"as long as we're emitting some co2, there will be some warming"
There will always be fluctuation in temp. The volcanic activity alone is huge! I fall more to the side of reducing pollution mostly because I don't like it's effect. This guy is not a good one to ask. He just lost me. F&%$ it, I'm buying a Suburban!
jefevonQ 2 years ago
Total load of shit....IMO
That big bright Yellow thing in the sky that is hard to stare at......that is making the earth hotter. And then it cools down......and then it gets hotter.
It's been getting hotter since the last ICE AGE ASSHOLE
strongtowndaredevils 2 years ago
Another brilliant revelation that nobody knew. Really? There's been cycles in climate? Gosh, I bet climate scientists didn't know that already. You better go enlighten them. BTW, what's an "ice age asshole?"
tdsinfo 2 years ago
GAG! Literally... cough-cough!!!
This 'solution' of putting 'particles' in the air is SO STUPID!!! And it is a HUGE coverup to justify chemtrails which is making everyone sicker, contamination our water and food.
These are atheists talking who do not believe in the true living God who can and will intervene IF there was something to fix.
This propaganda mumbo-gumbo is a pack of lies.
And UNPLUG YOUR TV IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY which is the most powerful brainwashing tool yet!
CathyFromPensacola 2 years ago
@CathyFromPensacola Only mentally inferior subhumans believe in "god" or whoever it or she is supposed to be. There is ZERO scientific proof for this fantasy god excrement. Meanwhile, PROVEN facts, like human-caused GW, are attacked by religionists. Why?
Because religionist are selfish evil hypocritical pieces of excrement, who have contributed NOTHING to civilization. They murder and torture, yet they are brainwashed into still being loyal to their religion.
duck24x 2 years ago
@duck24x
Thanks for your input duck.
For sure, there are those who claim to be Christians and for are, are NOT, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater: watch?v=ANm1qNoBFAQ
CathyFromPensacola 2 years ago
I think it's dishonest to present geoengineering as some Messiah mechanism to save the world. It's risks and potential pitfalls should be clearly delineated, without ambiguity. Plus, it worries me a bit when Mr. Caldeira says: "It will likely negatively impact some people".
BlueNile123 2 years ago
Find out who his colleagues and backers are, put them on a list then execute a citizen's arrest for crimes against humanity.
They are madmen and should be removed from society and put on trial, their chemtrails and HAARP have caused enough damage to the planet and has killed an uncounted number of people.
MuammarAlGathafi 2 years ago
Is he telling its in "human" intrest to spray our skyes with chemtrails? Poison us with barium and other airborne chemicals?
I think all these CO2 lies were debunked.
We breathe Co2 and plants need it.
If there is global heating its from the sun thus planet Mars is heating up also..
edewit08 2 years ago
yes friend he is saying, give me tax money to pray the atmosphere. if not done now earth will fry up from heat, now remember haarp, so basically we are being threaten to support this idea or false the consequence of man made heat. Its been proven that our industrial history as humans on earth is a fraction of a percent of gases coming out of 1 volcano, thousands of real scientist are debunking this as a financial scam, or pretty green slavery to create huge monopolies enforced by the government
dddiegopan 2 years ago
Those fucking terrorists should be locked up!
MuammarAlGathafi 2 years ago
You hear that ecocommie freak say It will negatively impact some people!!!!
What exactly does that son of a bitch mean by that!!!
MuammarAlGathafi 2 years ago
@MuammarAlGathafi, It means that cheesy poofs will cost more is all.
ananiasacts 2 years ago
Wake up people.this moron is talking about chem trailing us to kingdom come. Spraying our cities with dangerous chemicals which eventually reach us..something already being done. Lets not brush aside he is representing the carnegie institute, an organization that is part of the establishment that is trying to reduce the amount of 'useless eaters' on earth...thats YOU
youandmeandocsupra 2 years ago
@youandmeandocsupra, won't they need another economic stimulus package if they kill off most of their people?
ananiasacts 2 years ago
Does his "forecast for the century" include the fact that we are supposed to have passed peak oil production? I thought we were supposed to have run out of oil by then. That will pretty much take care of new CO2 in the air.
As for turning down the earth temperature, I'm thinking the world may be better off being a little warmer then being cooler. Warmer temperatures would increase food production. Overall cooling would decrease available agriculture areas and shorten growing seasons.
gsuitter 2 years ago
Where are people hearing this obtuse notion that temperatures or CO2 increase food production?
Higher temperatures place additional water / mineral stress in crops, areas often with lowering water tables. Bloom cycles are also adversely affected, as faster growth affects trace nutrients. Plants begin to limit photosynthetic function from 90F upwards, shutting down at 100F.
We already have a bubble economy as far as food and fuel is concerned - higher temps can only cause problems.
abyssquick 2 years ago
@gsuitter
peak oil production is just that... the peak of production (there's still oil, just less and less).
bbbleaver 2 years ago
"peak oil production is just that... the peak of production (there's still oil, just less and less). "
The most alarming aspects of this are our modern rate of consumption (which is still increasing rapidly) and that our world infrastructure's dependendance on it.
If oil flow stopped tomorrow the global population would collapse within months.
TheGodlessGuitarist 2 years ago
No, CO2 is not just a byproduct of oil. It's a byproduct of mos any carbon-based combustible. Coal, Methane, Ethanol, Wood, Peat, Sugar.... all of it.
abyssquick 2 years ago
BULL SHITER
gasttheplast 2 years ago
Take a look at William Tarkovsky's youtube eco-video The Book of New Creation...
Share it with others who care
Cl1mateAware 2 years ago
thanks fora tv now i want to kill myself. Exactly what i wanted to hear in the morning.
PizzahutCrocodile 2 years ago
this is bullshit. oil companies are constantly raping the rain forest and this idiot is probably paid by them to spew verbal diarreha to make the people think its their fault. it s not our fault mr oil companies assholes, its your fault and we the people should be making you pay for destroying our environment. in fact you should pay for the destruction you have caused the world environment.
TheSnotrag2009 2 years ago
"this is bullshit. oil companies are constantly raping the rain forest and this idiot is probably paid by them to spew verbal diarreha "
What the hell are you talking about?
He is not denying climate change. He is talking out the lag between cause and effect and that we may have to take big risks in the period between to avert catastrophe. He's right on the money.
TheGodlessGuitarist 2 years ago 2
@TheGodlessGuitarist hes not talking about the real cause of the change in climate is he. are you saying the rainforest plays no part in the climate system? the earth has its own system, and the fucking oil companies is wrecking it.
TheSnotrag2009 2 years ago
"are you saying the rainforest plays no part in the climate system?"
Of course not. I'm totally with you on deforrestation, and yes the oil companies have a lot to answer for. One of the major issues is that many of the big oil companies are run by Muslim and Christian creationists, who either don't believe modern science or actually look forward to somekind of armageddon.
TheGodlessGuitarist 2 years ago 2
who gives a shit if jesus or frikken bin laden chopped down the trees. point is these rainforests are being destroyed for oil and not so bin laden can lay his carpet to kneel on whichever direction to mumble mumbo jumbo or jesus christ chopping trees to down to make room to build a church to fleece people of their hard earned money with a donation box.
TheSnotrag2009 2 years ago
But then again, saying that going to completely 100% carbon free is not necessary.
Finlandcitizen 2 years ago
to be fair though, doing such things is the equivalent of putting a sticker over the check engine light, such aerosols have their own issues. Basically this option is for buying time more than an actual solution.
garith21 2 years ago 2
@TheGodlessGuitarist I voted BOTH you and Snotrag2009 a thumbs up, because you BOTH have valid points.
However, that does NOT contradict any of my main belief: the dumbfuck world is polarized into those who support war for bad purposes - oil - vs those who oppose war for ANY reason - even good ones like the environment & animal rights.
Then dumbfucks the world over wonder why the FUCK the world never gets better.
The 911 hijackers caused less pain than 99% of world's population.
duck24x 2 years ago
plant more trees
TheSnotrag2009 2 years ago
@TheSnotrag2009 The ocean produces more oxygen than any numbers of trees will.
anikinippon 2 years ago
@anikinippon Actually, some new research indicates that is not the case, and that the rainforests give off a significant amount of O. Also, if the globe gets warmer coral reefs will start dying out, acidity of the oceans will rise, and they will produce less O. So, yeah
doutonight 2 years ago
@doutonight What? What is the ocean made of? How are clouds made? You can't tell me that trees on the surface of the earth hold more water than the ocean.
anikinippon 2 years ago
Werent you talking about oxygen production? Also, re-read what I wrote
doutonight 2 years ago
@doutonight Evaporated water creates oxygen and ozone more than any other means. The ocean is the source of the majority of oxygen on the Earth, there you go.
anikinippon 2 years ago
Soooo....we need to stop breathing?
GOPsithlord 2 years ago 4
This malevolent scumbag is a eugenicist at heart, he has the same mentality as Pol Pot or Dr Mengele. The environment is an excuse that these bastards use, you never hear them talk about real environmental issues.
Cytacon 1 year ago
@GOPsithlord Of course not. Breathing is a drop in the ocean compared to the tons of emissions spewing out of coal plants every day. How can anyone be in favor of dirty fuel in a world where clean and secure wind, solar, tidal, etc. power sources are available?
Setrett 1 year ago
@Setrett I know was sounding a bit snide, but this is not that stark a choice and my answer has never been to completely favor one energy choice over another.
GOPsithlord 1 year ago
@GOPsithlord No we need to stop drilling Drilling millions of holes in our planet cant be good for global temperatures.E=mc2
acedagaiin 1 year ago
@GOPsithlord
Do you know how little C02 from every breathing person compares to the entire volume and concentration of the atmosphere? The fact of the matter is that human actions such as urbanization and industrialization are a constant source of emission that is adding to the natural background of Green House Gases. It is not about saving the planet, we will all die way before we completely destroy the earth. So many people forget to look outside of the tiny human ant scale.
boxcar12 11 months ago
All you Al Gore Hacks that still cling onto Global Warming are nuts !!!! global Warming is a Hoax. One designed to remove you from your dollars !!!! Don't be a fool. These guys are not interested in anything but your cash.... WAKE UP>..
2xtream 2 years ago
We have been geoengineering with aerosol programs for over a decade now and all it has done is poison our land, water, and the lungs and biosystems of all living things. How does Mr. Caldeira suggest we proceed?
tburke64 2 years ago 2
Zero emissions? Does that include breathing?
If you are concerned about widespread famine, the last thing you should do is cool the planet. If the earth did warm, it would more likely enhance our ability to grow food.
Environmentalism is good. But the global warming fear mongering is disgusting. Politicians blow things out of proportion every day. They keep you in a state of fear, so you desperately give them more power to "save" you. How many times are you going to fall for the same tactic?
truthadvocate 2 years ago
a warmer Earth would not enhance our ability to grow food in the long run. A warmer Earth would increase water vapor which would increase rainfall and snowfall, which would increase the albedo, or Sun 's reflection off of the Earth. This is exactly what brought about the last ice age and that isnt good for growing.
cmsalvagio 2 years ago
You just supported my argument that a cooler earth is worse for farming. There's always some far fetched hypothetical explanation of how current conditions will lead to the next "crisis." Overly simplified computer models developed to match the past, but never able to consistently & accurately predict the future. GOVERNMENTS CAUSED THE WORST FAMINES & MOST HUMAN CASUALTIES IN HISTORY when people believed their fear tactics & put faith in political rulers & the "scientists & economists" they paid
truthadvocate 2 years ago 2
@truthadvocate Easy to blame scientists & economists. Why not blame the soldiers who defend nations that have unfair laws? No - that would be FAR too politically incorrect for you. All this religious brainwashing defends cops & soldiers. Tough shit: I'll be loyal to whomever I want: the IPCC, Peta. The ONE fucking time taxes might be used for GOOD - to make people pay for their negative actions - the deniers are up in arms. But they HATE money because they shit it away by voting Demopub.
duck24x 2 years ago
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Finlandcitizen 2 years ago
@truthadvocate, right now it's 2.8 metric tons per person per year on average. 20T per person/year for Americans. I think each person should get to produce up to 2.8T free, but have to buy the credit to produce more than that from those who must then have produced less and have some of their credit left. (data source WolframAlpha) BTW, it's down from 3.5T/person just 20 years ago, but it was an exponential decline--the curve is near flat now.
ananiasacts 2 years ago
If you can prove that the pollution I create causes physical damage to your property, then you can sue me for compensation. Otherwise, you have no right to control how I use my property. Carbon credit programs are unneccessary. Tort law already covers it.
Plus carbon credits are the equivalent of telling a man he can beat his wife beyond the acceptable limit as long as he pays someone who doesn't beat his wife.
It also gives way too much power to the government which is inherently corrupt.
truthadvocate 2 years ago
hahaha..
DackIsBack 2 years ago
I don't give a fuck if global warming is "fake and gehy" or not...
Hear me out, We Need to STOP WASTING FUEL.
People that think otherwise are Fucking Idiots.
DackIsBack 2 years ago 2
Geoengineering... I can see it overshoot it's targets massively. We need to move away from catastrophist thinking, that the climate change is so alarming that it needs to be not only slowed down, but reversed and immediately at that. This is bad thinking. We better prepare for the "impact" it will have and work, like we always have, on cleaner and durable energy sources without clinging to the thought that it may be "too late" already. It's not. So far, nothing out of the ordinary is happening.
PuppetXeno 2 years ago
yeah let the factories keep doing their pollution it would be too expensive to force them to go clean plus their are so few factories. lets just got after humans and the meat they eat, while we are at it you pets are not save from this oh and the poor small farmers that have a few chickens.
lllraverslll 2 years ago
Depleted Uranium - Agent Orange Soil saturations- farmland contaminated defomed generations - These were /are intentional killer pollutants . These climate idiots make me sick. I am sorry but I have just plain lost all respect for the blatant lying and manipulation.
Want to make a difference in the climate pollution . STOP BOMBING THE HELL OUT OF COUNTRIES AND THEIR PEOPLE AND REDUCING THEIR LIVES AND LANDS TO NOTHING. Screw you Ken...
RenegadeTimes 2 years ago 6
ohhh good one
lllraverslll 2 years ago
@RenegadeTimes
What makes you think Ken is not in support of this either? I also fail to see how he is a liar, and for that fact any honest working researcher. He is a person presenting hypothesis that are peer reviewed and widely accepted. The scientific community would quickly find its shortcomings. Anyone can try to prove his work wrong, but I doubt you have the capacity to do so, other than using naive, bias, and idiotic rantings with no political or scientific background to back them up.
boxcar12 11 months ago
@boxcar12 Carnegie Institution ? Kenny work for them ? Do some homework. these "brilliant" minds are talking BS. Peer review . lol Lobbysist review. Carnegie .....lol Me thinks you the idiot sir or madame.
RenegadeTimes 11 months ago
@RenegadeTimes
What about Carnegie Institution? Are you referring to the fact that it is located at Stanford University? What other facts are you referring to that I need to have "done my homework" for? Nothing from what you said was evidence towards your cause and is continuing to make you look like a blabber conspiracy theorist. Lets just say that the funders for his research are using him as there puppet. That still doesn't prevent scientists WORLDWIDE from refuting it or disproving hiswork
boxcar12 11 months ago
@boxcar12 Carnegie is Rockefeller's baby. If you don't know the tentacles of this "institution" then I suggest you start reading. Frankly I am tired of explaining this to people. Go along and believe what you like about anything you like. When Rockefeller is involved in anything it speaks volumes as to it's goals. Try just a wee bit of critical thinking here. These power people have polluted the world a million times over. The same people have a solution ? lol Damn ~ think !
RenegadeTimes 11 months ago
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RenegadeTimes 2 years ago
Depleted Uranium Agent orange ...Shut up mouth piece...you're a bag of lying wind .
RenegadeTimes 2 years ago
Pretty cool idea. It's discussed in a book I just read called superfreakenomics. Who knows.. maybe we'll lean some new terraforming tricks.
LordNapalm 2 years ago
hasnt he heard temperatures have gone down for the last 10 years , and there already chem trailing , this man doesnt sing very well even though his suppers on the line , what a twat and liar
tonythatjesusloves 2 years ago
@tonythatjesusloves Why would jesus love a guy who calls other people twats? That's not very Christian, is it?
acr08807 2 years ago 3
@acr08807 would you prefer son of satan , viper ,father of lies or just plain used tampon ( all in the bible )
tonythatjesusloves 2 years ago
@tonythatjesusloves wow big surprise someone who believes in imaginary friends denies the science of climate change as well you believe in the conspiracy of chemtrails. let me guess you deny evolution as well
Nibielari 2 years ago 2
@Nibielari just keep drinking the fluoride it will all be alright soon , now go back to sleep , or watch tele a bit ,there there
tonythatjesusloves 2 years ago
@tonythatjesusloves don't worry stay afraid rational people are here to make sure this society gets better so you can stay crazy.
Nibielari 2 years ago 3
@tonythatjesusloves
Yes. Chemtrails like co2 and, h2o!
Saktoth 2 years ago
@Saktoth not to mention aluminium and barium
tonythatjesusloves 2 years ago
You are a noob.
GuBB3rGuN 2 years ago
Can you say "Chem Trails"???
magichandpuppet 2 years ago 2
`As long as we continue to emit [greenhouse gases], the Earth will continue warming.' Okay, but that doesn't mean that there's no safe threshold of emissions, which might be achieved without geoengineering. Consider, for instance, the recommendations of the IPCC; those don't suggest that geoengineering will likely be necessary, right?
jhip87 2 years ago
Don't inhale.
AtheistKharm 2 years ago 2
The guy is insane obviously...
2222554 2 years ago
This is a dead issue.
return135 2 years ago