To the people who imagine this concept to be about making arrests, or 'warning' offenders the police are en route/present... I think you've missed the point. The idea behind this appears to be for situation assessment before sending ground personnel in. Personally, if I were on the scene and unsure of what I was about to walk into, a strategic aerial observation allows you to plan (ie. Spot the guy on the roof with a rifle waiting to pick off cops as they come towards the building etc.).
Looks cool, but every project is restrained by its practicality and budget. It would be kinda hard to justify spending $1500 on something you use maybe once a year and has limited speed and range.
For the $2000 price, the helicopter had to be in the view of the person flying it. They had to be able to keep it level...by watching it. It would have cost more, but we were going to add some auto-leveling equipment to it, so that we could possibly fly it out of the sight of the RC pilot. At that point, distance becomes a matter of the radio signal and the radio sending the video down. I was not really the tech-guy for the project. I was the person seeking support for the project.
Gas or Electric? Gas is like having a buzzird above you and electric has like 10-12 min flight times........And still can shoot either one out of the sky with a pellet gun................
It was electric, and had a 20 minute flight time. And yes...the helicopter could be brought down by a suspect. But we planned on using it for situations where you would rather have a $2000 RC helicopter shot down, than having a manned full-sized helicopter shot down. $2000 doesn't seem disposable, but for a police-department...$2000 isn't that much if it helps in a crisis situation.
Regardless, the project was cancelled...so its all rather academic at this point. :-)
If they are going to use that on you, they already assume your hostile or else they would go themselves......Besides this program was shot down anyway by law enforcement......
@voidpulp I don't see how as the cop still has to make the arrest and this is more of a warning for the criminal that the cops are coming losing there preemptive attack....
i would like to make something like this to. would i get into trouble if i flew it around with the FCC??
another thing, the problem i was having with mind is that, when i would hit the fowrard button, it would mess up the carmera and show fuzz, when i wasnt pressing any buttons, it was cool. how can i get it to be as clear as yours?? thanks
reallly a great idea. Although it's not the latest idea, you are providing very much of the possibilities i haven't seen for such a remote camera yet. Keep on the work! Go for chemical comapanies or firebrigade and show your stuff.
No clue. I'm just the "idea-guy." I'm not even the one that built this thing! We were pushing to go to stage 2 of our project, and the legal folks told us wait until the FAA cleared up the rules for flying over populated areas. It might not apply to hobby-folks. It might not even be the right information. Just what we were told. Sorry I don't know more!
What about thermal imaging,hyperspectral imaging ihope these are going to be considered
if you want to be competitive. What about autonomy are these things your working on
resoloution on the camera need to be better at high altuitudes, vibration on the cam need to be reduced once these issues are tackled i believe you'll be a force to be reckoned with.
how much did it cost to make that rc heli with camera and what is the range of it? Beacouse i wanted to make something like that 9 years ago but never go the chance to
This helicopter would have cost us about $1500 to $2000 to keep, but that is due to many donated parts. I guess if you had to pay for everything, it would be about $3000. For a helicopter with some awesome auto-leveling and other advanced features, maybe $10,000.
EH wait ?! its usually just $400 for the kit add the rest for the engine and other parts necessary especially the controller you can get all at a local hobby shop. just make sure you get some lessons
Thanks...I hope we do eventually move forward on this project. And when we do, we'll do it in the most inexpensive (but effective) way possible. But for now, we're working on other projects. We've had to move on... :-(
This prototype was built with borrowed parts which were returned. We asked the department for $2000 to build one that the department would own, but they did not take the leap.
To complicate matters, the FAA put rules in place preventing us from using this helicopter in residential or populated areas, and that was pretty much the ONLY place we were going to use it! I've heard they are working on putting an exception in those rules for Police Departments, but it hasn't happened yet.
I believe it was Hi8 tape...but that was just because we had a free Hi8 Camcorder available to us. It belonged to Greg Williams' (the guy who put the helicopter together) parents! He was a little worried the whole time that we would wreck it, and break his parents' camera. :-)
A digital camera would go on there just as well. No problems.
Actually, the FCC banned our use of the helicopter in residential areas, effectively killing our project. Efforts are underway to lift the ban. But, basically Big Brother killed the project!
I believe it was a Sony or JVC camcorder. Hi8. Like the kind you would use to record your family Xmas or something. We rigged a wire to a small hole we drilled in the zoom button, that allowed us to zoom remotely.
The reason this was an attractive option for us, was that if we found a way to fly it at night (obviously it almost impossible to fly if you can't see it, so we would have needed to improve this helicopter to fly at night), the camcorder could be set on NightShot mode, and would give us IR images.
If you want one like this, I'm sure there are ver expensive commertial models available. This one was pieced together by Greg Williams, an officer onour police department.
It s not in use. It was built with borrowed parts that had to be returned. The department has not chosen to invest money in this concept yet. They may never. We're not sure.
It takes more than one person to fly. A pilot and someone controlling the camera...
Definitely. You can view it live on a computer or a television screen. You can record it on a computer or a VCR tape at the same time. You can even send it by radio back to a Command Post bus or your Ageny's Headquarters (if you have the equipment). While we have not done so...you could also provide the imagery live on an internet feed...if there was a need.
Definitely. You can view it live on a computer or a television screen. You can record it on a computer or a VCR tape at the same time. You can even send it by radio back to a Command Post bus or your Ageny's Headquarters (if you have the equipment). While we have not done so...you could also provide the imagery live on an internet feed...if there was a need.
To the people who imagine this concept to be about making arrests, or 'warning' offenders the police are en route/present... I think you've missed the point. The idea behind this appears to be for situation assessment before sending ground personnel in. Personally, if I were on the scene and unsure of what I was about to walk into, a strategic aerial observation allows you to plan (ie. Spot the guy on the roof with a rifle waiting to pick off cops as they come towards the building etc.).
Porganised 8 months ago
mount a pistol on that and your in buisness
steavedaver 1 year ago
were can i get 1 you know for like $100 or $50
MW2CLANl141 1 year ago
what kind of camera is this and whats the wireless range capability?
tokenride04 1 year ago
Looks cool, but every project is restrained by its practicality and budget. It would be kinda hard to justify spending $1500 on something you use maybe once a year and has limited speed and range.
Raptor302 1 year ago
does the cam move on its own axis????
TheAcclamator 1 year ago
@TheAcclamator - Yes...the camera moved on its own axis. Zoomed in and out by remote as well.
voidpulp 1 year ago
@voidpulp dude, I soooo want one now
TheAcclamator 1 year ago
good vid. were those guys cops filming u.
elitehero36 2 years ago
@elitehero36 - Yes...everyone involved in the project were cops.
voidpulp 1 year ago
@voidpulp cool ;)
elitehero36 1 year ago
For the $2000 price, the helicopter had to be in the view of the person flying it. They had to be able to keep it level...by watching it. It would have cost more, but we were going to add some auto-leveling equipment to it, so that we could possibly fly it out of the sight of the RC pilot. At that point, distance becomes a matter of the radio signal and the radio sending the video down. I was not really the tech-guy for the project. I was the person seeking support for the project.
voidpulp 3 years ago
Like no one can hear that loud ass thing commin.....Let alone throw a rock at it to knock it out of the sky.....
Dmac11a666 3 years ago
I'm guessing you want Blue Thunder, or Airwolf, and some sort of "stealth" mode or something. I think that would cost extra.
Mark
voidpulp 3 years ago
Gas or Electric? Gas is like having a buzzird above you and electric has like 10-12 min flight times........And still can shoot either one out of the sky with a pellet gun................
Dmac11a666 3 years ago
It was electric, and had a 20 minute flight time. And yes...the helicopter could be brought down by a suspect. But we planned on using it for situations where you would rather have a $2000 RC helicopter shot down, than having a manned full-sized helicopter shot down. $2000 doesn't seem disposable, but for a police-department...$2000 isn't that much if it helps in a crisis situation.
Regardless, the project was cancelled...so its all rather academic at this point. :-)
voidpulp 3 years ago
How long of a distance can you get for the video and controls??? How can i get say 1 mile plus?
Dmac11a666 3 years ago
I think the point is, that if you act hostile towards it, they're going to assume you're acting hostile towards them.
I don't really think you want that.
SizzlingMonkey 2 years ago
If they are going to use that on you, they already assume your hostile or else they would go themselves......Besides this program was shot down anyway by law enforcement......
Dmac11a666 2 years ago
I figured that because I had never heard of it beyond now. An AUVA would be better suited, they wouldn't need the damn RC pilot.
SizzlingMonkey 2 years ago
@Dmac11a666 - Yes...I suppose they could throw a rock at it or even shoot it. Its better than getting an officer hurt, though...and a lot cheaper.
voidpulp 1 year ago
@voidpulp I don't see how as the cop still has to make the arrest and this is more of a warning for the criminal that the cops are coming losing there preemptive attack....
Dmac11a666 1 year ago
2 x 180 carbon brush motors as main drive & N25 motor as tail drive. is that powerful enof for a 20gram camra and a 9volt fo the camra?
tbonesinator 3 years ago
what is the RC chopper make? can we mount sony HRD S7 ? whats the website..
davidsandeeprobert 3 years ago
ha it shud work for the police!lol
pk2o08 3 years ago
Nice,A home-built U.A.V =D
Jamietran123 3 years ago
beware the development of anti-aircraft RC tanks
Armoredfury193 3 years ago 9
XD lol Using fireworks LOL.
BebopBHunter 3 years ago
cool
Joshua12777 3 years ago
what does the Helicopters look like with the camera? and is the cmera water resistant?
Restarea11019V 3 years ago
i would like to make something like this to. would i get into trouble if i flew it around with the FCC??
another thing, the problem i was having with mind is that, when i would hit the fowrard button, it would mess up the carmera and show fuzz, when i wasnt pressing any buttons, it was cool. how can i get it to be as clear as yours?? thanks
JMG7474 3 years ago
reallly a great idea. Although it's not the latest idea, you are providing very much of the possibilities i haven't seen for such a remote camera yet. Keep on the work! Go for chemical comapanies or firebrigade and show your stuff.
Keep on the good work.
ikenny83uk 3 years ago
Thank you! We're on hold until the FAA changes some rules about flying these things in populated areas. Then we'll try to move forward...
Mark
voidpulp 3 years ago
wait your saing that even hobby r/c pilots cant fly them say in their neighborhoods?
Panditha666 3 years ago
No clue. I'm just the "idea-guy." I'm not even the one that built this thing! We were pushing to go to stage 2 of our project, and the legal folks told us wait until the FAA cleared up the rules for flying over populated areas. It might not apply to hobby-folks. It might not even be the right information. Just what we were told. Sorry I don't know more!
voidpulp 3 years ago
What about thermal imaging,hyperspectral imaging ihope these are going to be considered
if you want to be competitive. What about autonomy are these things your working on
resoloution on the camera need to be better at high altuitudes, vibration on the cam need to be reduced once these issues are tackled i believe you'll be a force to be reckoned with.
viccourage 3 years ago
how much did it cost to make that rc heli with camera and what is the range of it? Beacouse i wanted to make something like that 9 years ago but never go the chance to
MrMigs24 3 years ago
This helicopter would have cost us about $1500 to $2000 to keep, but that is due to many donated parts. I guess if you had to pay for everything, it would be about $3000. For a helicopter with some awesome auto-leveling and other advanced features, maybe $10,000.
Mark
voidpulp 3 years ago
EH wait ?! its usually just $400 for the kit add the rest for the engine and other parts necessary especially the controller you can get all at a local hobby shop. just make sure you get some lessons
Panditha666 3 years ago
Thanks...I hope we do eventually move forward on this project. And when we do, we'll do it in the most inexpensive (but effective) way possible. But for now, we're working on other projects. We've had to move on... :-(
voidpulp 3 years ago
Is there another protoype in the works?
Was this one ever used by a department?
rolsby 4 years ago
This prototype was built with borrowed parts which were returned. We asked the department for $2000 to build one that the department would own, but they did not take the leap.
To complicate matters, the FAA put rules in place preventing us from using this helicopter in residential or populated areas, and that was pretty much the ONLY place we were going to use it! I've heard they are working on putting an exception in those rules for Police Departments, but it hasn't happened yet.
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
This one looks like VHS. Are you working on a digital?
rolsby 4 years ago
I believe it was Hi8 tape...but that was just because we had a free Hi8 Camcorder available to us. It belonged to Greg Williams' (the guy who put the helicopter together) parents! He was a little worried the whole time that we would wreck it, and break his parents' camera. :-)
A digital camera would go on there just as well. No problems.
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
FUCKING BIG BROTHER.
chrisjarram 4 years ago
Careful. We're watching you.
:-)
Actually, the FCC banned our use of the helicopter in residential areas, effectively killing our project. Efforts are underway to lift the ban. But, basically Big Brother killed the project!
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
freakin cool dudes!! :D:D want to know what kind of cam you used
neo123rej 4 years ago
I believe it was a Sony or JVC camcorder. Hi8. Like the kind you would use to record your family Xmas or something. We rigged a wire to a small hole we drilled in the zoom button, that allowed us to zoom remotely.
-Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
ooohw smart solution :) keep going ;)
neo123rej 4 years ago
The reason this was an attractive option for us, was that if we found a way to fly it at night (obviously it almost impossible to fly if you can't see it, so we would have needed to improve this helicopter to fly at night), the camcorder could be set on NightShot mode, and would give us IR images.
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
good thinking work :O ;)
neo123rej 4 years ago
wow
koolmansbacons 4 years ago
PLZ DELETE THE ABOVE COMMENT!
MaverickHunter75 4 years ago
I deleted it. What a goober...
-Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
lol i forgot what that comment was xD
MaverickHunter75 4 years ago
damn cops are getting to damn smart!...Us bad guys have new technology too...
killacam44 4 years ago
Ha! Don't worry. There's too many of you. We'll never get all of you. We call it "job security."
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
so it definetly takes more then 1 person to fly right?
UntouchedLIMIT 4 years ago
If you want one like this, I'm sure there are ver expensive commertial models available. This one was pieced together by Greg Williams, an officer onour police department.
It s not in use. It was built with borrowed parts that had to be returned. The department has not chosen to invest money in this concept yet. They may never. We're not sure.
It takes more than one person to fly. A pilot and someone controlling the camera...
Mark
voidpulp 4 years ago
wow that's amazing, i want to try it.
alleycat60438 4 years ago
area 51 reconnaissance
wesleytj 4 years ago
Is this in use these days?
Hawk193 4 years ago
Definitely. You can view it live on a computer or a television screen. You can record it on a computer or a VCR tape at the same time. You can even send it by radio back to a Command Post bus or your Ageny's Headquarters (if you have the equipment). While we have not done so...you could also provide the imagery live on an internet feed...if there was a need.
-Mark
voidpulp 5 years ago
Wow- nice, what heli have you got this cam on? anyway Nice :D
tek5828 4 years ago
i wanna go
rapidrory 5 years ago
cool can you watch the video live i guess
lancealator 5 years ago
Definitely. You can view it live on a computer or a television screen. You can record it on a computer or a VCR tape at the same time. You can even send it by radio back to a Command Post bus or your Ageny's Headquarters (if you have the equipment). While we have not done so...you could also provide the imagery live on an internet feed...if there was a need.
-Mark
voidpulp 5 years ago