@Dectheboner I know lol. And calling me an asshole isn't very "Christy" wouldn't you agree? I thought you went by the "turn the other cheek" thingy. lol
@Dectheboner I dont believe in man made religion that doesn't stop me form thinking that there may be a God. I keep an open mind there could be. Even if athiests say there is no evidence to prove God's existance. Who is anyone to say there isn't a God and who is anyone to say there is. Does anyone know the real truth. Do you???
I love how they add: "LIBERAL MEDIA INFORMATION DISPENSERS" at the end of the description for the video.
2:33 - About to bring up the teleological argument. I can tell that this video is really going to give me a lot of scientific EVIDENCE and PROOF! I know for certain that it won't be bringing up old/shitty arguments of creation!
3:20 - Guy claims that there's lots of evidence for the existence of God. So instead of providing it, he calls non-believers idiots. Classic.
A building gets vandalized. We find a list of potential suspects who could've done it. Based on the fact that there's a big spray painting on the wall, we know there was a vandal. And we focus, completely arbitrarily, on Suspect #3.
There's no specific reason to believe it was Suspect #3, nor any evidence. But there's a spray-painting. There has to be a vandal. And we should assume, on nothing, that vandal = Suspect #3.
can not explain it. Scientist attempts to unravel the mystery with their biased opinions and subjective theories, but truth is their knowledge is limited. While God's omniscience is infinite. Why should I put my trust in a fragile man who rely on another man to teach what he can barely explain, Thank God for experience, the best teacher. If it had not been for the personal experiences and encounters I've had with God I could have been subject to believe their lies of it being no God, Thank God
Atheism is the rejection in the existence of God. Now, my argument is, they want us to prove God exist through a type of physical manifestation and we can't prove God in this way. There is a time reserved for this type of evidence to take place, its called death, however, creation is the ultimate proof God is real. The universe in all it's majestic array which can not be explained with definitive objective explainations is ultimate proof. God's omni-science, is unquestionable. and man's science
"There is a time reserved for this type of evidence to take place, its called death"
And isn't that convenient.
"Scientist attempts to unravel the mystery with their biased opinions and subjective theories"
A subjective theory didn't build the computer you're typing on, or design this website, or the Internet at large. The supposedly untrustworthy science is the only reason you have electricity to power any of it, the reason you're probably not living in a hut.
@41ofus Not so much an idiot... Just believeing that there is more to life.. That we are here for an even bigger purpose to live, die, and turn into atoms... I dont believe someone who is an Athiast is ignorant. But I definitely don't believe religious people are ignorant either.. We all have our own opinions, try not to be so close minded pal..
@lilmurphy01 It's not about being "closed minded" as it is being a good listener of one's own experiance. I've done the bible thing, the church thing, the AA thing; and all that stuff is B.S., it really is. You have to be opened minded to than be singled minded.
@41ofus Its not Gods job to come down and make everything better for you. Life is about making your own choices and learning from them. It is also about having faith, and without it you will always be lost. I am not claiming to be better then anyone what so ever.. I just have a strong faith in God and an afterlife that nobody can take away from me. If God showed himself and things, then or purpose in living would be pointless. We are here to learn and grow.
I am god, the proof of me being god is in this text box, and you can trust this text box. How can you trust this text box? Because god says you can trust this text box through this text box. You believed me with the book, you will believe me here. BTW, are you guys stoning unruly teenagers to death? Because you should be, I told you that in the bible.
Then, HE got lonely, zapped Adam onto the earth. Adam got lonely, broke one of his ribs off, and bam, wow, ok, now there's Eve. So what, we are all decendants of some incest between Adam and his clone Eve? - Whoever wrote this shit must've been high, but not sure what everyone else's excuse for beleiving this shit is. It woud make a great plot in a Red Dwarf Ep.
So, it's not realistic that all matter, atoms, forces e.t.c. over billions of years could have come together to become what we know today... however... for some reason a vast portion of the world believes that some creator, made the world, universe & everything in 7 days, (oops, sorry, 6 days, it was hard work, so he needed a bit of a break on the 7th).
Do the terms "evidence" and "proof" have different meanings if they're spelled all in capitals?
I don't mean to be rude, but I can safely say this is false advertising. Stupid old men asserting "there are a lot of evidences for the existence of god... like the bible for example" doesn't actually constitute evidence.
I like how u can say open our eyes when it seems that your the blind one lol Satan has deceived u and he has done a good job I must say. But let me ask u. If u were to rob a house would u turn on all the lights???
Fuck this ignorant bullshit you people need to realize fact or fiction the bible is just a fictional book What makes you think that you're right and islam is wrong come on people open ur blind eyes
both sides of the argument go in circles to the opposite side of the argument. the only difference is that a creationist has an explination. though the explination may seem loony to the other side it is still an explination. atheist side boiles down to being more obsured that nothing made somthing, when the same arguer will tell you they believe in fact and the fact is that nothing produces nothing or 0=0. but yet they believe that 0 can = 4 billion.
as the watch demands a watch maker so the world demands a world make well who made the world make? there was no evidence in this vid other than the same old bull crap creationists have always been saying
"Evolution is just a passe theory devised before the discovery of DNA design by a primitive atheist. Please expand your mind and move beyond these outdated stabs at atheism."
Really, now? DNA CONFIRMS evolutionary theory. And please don't give me any of that nonsense about increases in genetic "information", because whichever way you choose to define "information" there are plenty of examples of "increases" in it.
Strawman, argument from ignorance, and argument from authority (maybe, seeing as "studied" isn't clearly defined. I studied a lot of different sciences too...)
You're right, we won't get anywhere.
You've come to the conclusion that "there's something there." And with such a nebulous claim how is someone even supposed to address it? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not even saying your family member's wrong... I'm definitely saying the two videos you cited are wrong, outdated and very biased.
@ragnarok343 Of course we dont know what yet, but you JUST made the statement & I quote "We don't know from what yet" & by that you mean we don't know what the universe expanded from; which I agree. But you making that statement implies my point to be correct. You said we dont know from what but we DO know there actually was a "what" I.E. a cause I.E. an explosion. We just don't know what caused it. Christians believe God caused it Atheist say we don't know.
@IamGarySimpson I'm getting frustrated, but I'm assuming this is the first time you've really considered these concepts. There is no implied cause, and it DEFINITELY wasn't an explosion.
Also I find it insulting to my Christian friends to say that they believe God caused the Big Bang. Usually if you've spent even a moderate amount of time researching this, even the most pious Christian cannot conclude without blatantly lying that "God did it".
I'll say it for the last time: Research this stuff.
@ragnarok343 I'm sorry you feel that way but you are not opening your mind to all possibilities. Christians who know science & logic do not reject the theory of the Big Bang; it gives a pretty good explaination of "how" creation" happened.....we simply believe the is another factor to this theory..."why" there was creation; hat is a question Science can never answer. I believe in the Big Bang I just believe that God was the cause of it or the one who "banged" it.
@IamGarySimpson If I'm ever presented an argument or piece of evidence that doesn't immediately violate a logical fallacy, or completely lie about factual sciences, I'll entertain it. Till then, please don't say I have a closed mind.
@IamGarySimpson Convince me of what? Convince me of a god? This god which when to the most extraordinary lengths to hide it's existence? A God who created a universe where the laws of physics expressly forbid it's existence, and it has to exist outside of it?
Are ALL scientists lying to us in your view of reality? And the provable liars of this profiteering religion deserve creditability for some reason? I simply don't understand you.
@ragnarok343 I once watched a vid where a dr. asked scientist to look into and research NDE. That there is something to it. That is much more than dmt. Well, the scientist's wrote back and said, they had no desire to research that. Then went on to say that, if it was proved it exists, then it would (basicly) make them look like liars. See, they do not believe in GOD or anything of that nature. A superior being. Soooooo, they do not want anyone else to as well. And this is not joke either.
@LanaV6 What's not a joke? Who's "them"? Doctor of what? "A scientist" of what? A scientist didn't want to research something because it might prove god? NDE doesn't prove anything except NDE.
Moreover, people were dying long before the God story was concocted, so it's pretty plain to see that they just tailored the story of "entering heaven" to coincide with near death experience accounts.
Your story proves you're gullible and foolish, not that NDE research has any value.
@ragnarok343 Here ya go. I doubt you would research on your own. Because most do not want the truth. But, you should. i have to give you names of the vid's. yt will not make me put in the link. The Scientific and Rationalist Case for Life After Death - 1 (cfpfuk) also this one. DMT debunked as cause of Near death experiences by Medical doctors who have studied the (GoldenLightD). there are so many others. Like athesists haveing a NDE. I doubt you will admit it though. no biggy for me.
@LanaV6 How can you conclude your position is the truth? These videos are really tenuous and inconclusive AT BEST. Especially in the first one; it feels like he's working with an understanding of the human brain from about 20 years ago. Speaking on research, you may want to read even the most basic book on how synapses in the human brain work.
Neither video functions on even the most basic level as an argument for life after death, and the really sad fact is that you SHOULD know this already.
@ragnarok343 I am sorry, but, it is a known fact, when the brain dies, there is no more activity. Nothing happens. Then explain why so many die for long periods of time, Have a NDE? Or how people born blind can see? Even describe tools, machines used on them. Dr's? Or how they hear the whole converstion? The brain dies. But the soul goes on. Even atheists change after a NDE. They will tell you, It was no dream. Or hallucination. The Scientist admitted they will not look into it. IN fear of
@LanaV6 It's not a known fact, actually, that's complete and utter horseshit. When the brain dies, there's a fair amount of residual information stored in the brain for HOURS after death. There's a strain of malaria which reignites the brain stem about an hour after death, and makes the dead host jitter about like a zombie-stroke victim.
People who are born blind aren't automatically exempt from having a visual cortex in their brain.
You should know this too... maybe not the malaria thing.
@ragnarok343 When u say jitter about like a zombie? It was said, it was our nerves. Now it is malaria? sheeesh I guess not too many people believed the first lie. I am sorry, It is what it is. I have a family member who studied 20 or 30 sciences. HE told me that most is unknown so they come up with things that sound good. (not in his words. I have a very bad memory, so I can't remember his exact words) Sorry about that. Anyhow. I am done. We will get no where. But thank you.
@LanaV6 Also simply put, I would never disregard anything in the realm of "brain weirdness" but it simply doesn't prove a soul or an afterlife.
They're lying, and you're now lying for them. Truth is a process, and you've jumped to a conclusion which you cannot yet support just because it makes you feel more comfortable.
There is no matter of "to each their own" or "agree to disagree." You're wrong, stuck in a static quagmire of religious assumptions, and you won't grow till you see that.
@ragnarok343 I have read many books, saw many specials. Watched many videos on NDE. There is more to it than scientist will say or give credit. I am grateful for the brave Dr's and Scientist that have and agree. It is more than dmt and any other explaination they came up with. Children have had it. Athesists have had it. All changed dramatically from it. Saying they heard, FELT and saw. All! Anyhow. I wish you would be able to talk with my family member on this. You would both enjoy the talk.
@ragnarok343 looking stupid. They do not believe so they make up stupid things. So of course they will look stupid. What can I say? lol Anyhow, You and I both know, we will get no where with this. Especially after hearing them admit they won't? Which to me means only one thing. They know it can be true, but do not want a part in it. Why else would scientist say, NO! to researching it? Ever think about that? Anyhow. I hope you have a good day. To each their own I guess. :o)
@ragnarok343 The Big Bang was an explosion hence the word "Bang". And your example use of a volcanoes proves my point. The explosion from a volcano cause destruction not order.
@IamGarySimpson Flawless logic... I suppose the Cambrian explosion was an actual explosion too?
Also the fundamental point of my argument was that volcanoes create significantly more order than disorder. Similar to releasing air from a balloon to relieve pressure. How can you cite that example, and not address that?
You simply cannot be this stupid. For both our sakes, I hope you're a troll.
@ragnarok343 Releasing air from a ballon is not a random act. Someone has to release it therefore giving the act a cause (to release pressure). Without a causer to "release the air out of the ballon" to create the universe the universe serves no purpose which means it has no order. And I think we would both agree that by the laws of physics cannot be correct.
@IamGarySimpson Oh dear, you're being genuine... I'm so sorry.
Look man, I can't help you understand these really basic principles. I would suggest reading a physics text book, or even enrolling in a course because you've demonstrated a severe lack of misunderstanding in the sciences. Physics isn't word-play. When they say "bang" it doesn't imply an explosion.
If you're religious, that's perfectly fine, but please recognize that these men are all misrepresenting tested facts about the universe.
@ragnarok343 Don't avoid response by trying to discrediting my knowledge of science and physics. You said the the purpose of letting air out of a ballon is to release pressure; how can the pressure be released without the actual act of someone releasing it? The act give it a purpose, simple logic. A gun doesn't shoot itself, it has a shooter. The shooter gives the gun its purpose. Give me one example of the use of the word "bang" that has no reference to an act of an explosion or collison please
@IamGarySimpson I ignored it because part of that argument was someone "causing it", that has no bearing on the model I proposed.
The Big Bang is an example of the use of the word "bang" that has no reference to an act of an explosion.
We're done.
You've demonstrated you don't have the tool-set necessary to debate this topic properly, this is the second time I've had to repeat myself, so I assume you're not listening too. Please consider learning about this stuff from a creditable source.
@ragnarok343 Your understanding of an actual "bang" is incorrect . "Bang" is defined in the dictionary as "a loud, sudden, explosive noise, as the discharge of a gun." The Big Bang was a sudden single act NOT an expansion. The expansion of the universe is the result effect of the bang not the bang itself. Youcan give no example of something a bang & not be an explosion because you have nothing to support your claim of a bang not being an sudden explosive act; the dictionary defines it as that.
@IamGarySimpson The term big bang was coined in the 40's... I can happily assure you there was no actual bang, especially in a vacuum. You're really stuck on that word, eh?
"Cosmological Expansion Event" was too long to become a layman's term, I guess, so it got the rather quaint title, "Big Bang."
I'll say it again, put down the dictionary for the moment, and look up these terms in a science textbook. Start with research, and then you can have an educated opinion, rather than a baseless one.
@ragnarok343 So you're telling me that the Big Bang was not an actual "bang" but a cosmological expansion from nothing? Does that sound logical? If something expands....it has to be expanding from something. An expanison is a reaction. In order to have a REaction you must first have an actual act. Every action "Big Bang" has an equal or greater REaction "expansion".
They made a great point at the end. Name one uncontrolled explosion that has ever caused order instead of destruction. Such an explosion is impossible to be indentified yet one would have you believe that an explosion without a cause created everything within this physical dimension in complete unison with each other?
The big bang wasn't actually an explosion, but it DID in fact leave the universe in a general disarray. It was the gravitation pull and other physical constants over the course of BILLIONS of years which created the world you're looking at today.
Off topic, but volcanoes are uncontrolled explosions that release pressure on the earth's crust. The earth is in essence regulating itself.
how i like to see from heaven these FOOLISH people who don't believe in God! when you people get to hell, don't you ever ask for God's mercy, YOU ATHEISTS DESERVED TO GO TO HELL- where fire is not quenched and the worms die not!
people make watches so god must have made people heard it before its a stupid argument. think rationally and god isn't real is the only conclusion you can come to and saying satan twists science to remove us from god is a cop out. your basically saying i cant think of a logical argument and there is no god. saying that is to say that the scientific argument obviously pwns god so satan must have created it grow up and accept the facts its time to move past fairy tales
there are no other opinions form the people who don't believe in creationism in this video, and you can't say all explosions are disastrous like eruptions on the sun that give us energy for life. they say we need to look from boths sides but they don't have someone who stands for the other side.
too much pride..they say science can explain anything even life come on people can science make life i agree they an explain how dos it forms bla bla but they can really make life,,yeah a toy or a robot dancing..coz that only science or technology can do..
and they say life comes from evolution yah right coz they have a monkey brain that believes on it...
@neiveweird1 Close, but no cigar, Satan doesn't want us to believe in him. The more unaware you are of your enemy, the closer he can get ;) But yes, Satan loves science, why wouldn't he, he created it!.
@IronCladLady81 So if Satan created science then Satan wants us to become more intelligent and develop our society for the better and God wants us to be mindless servants who have no intelligence or understanding of the world... Based on your logic I should change my view from atheism to worshiping Satan lol!
@IronCladLady81 By his suggestion do you mean Satan or god? Because if you still mean Satan, then what I said still stands. Science has given us so many wonderful things and clearly if Satan gave us science he should be revered above god (Not that I believe in either, its just the principle)
@IronCladLady81 Ah okay I do see your point, that makes a lot of sense and I cannot argue against that really. My original comment was just because it seemed people were saying science as whole was evil and that is clearly not true.
I like how people think that it's totally up to God to do every thing for us, lol.. "Omg he didn't save my pet kitty in the third grade, my best friends third cousin died in a shooting".Those are events perpetuated by us, to us. It's not up to God to clean up our messes every, single, time, we screw up.. o.O Remember in the bible, all the stories of hardship? Testing one's faith by way of tragedy? Come on kids, before you start disputing the bible, at least learn how to fake having even read it.
@YoujiNoTsuki >I agree wholeheartedly.It sounds like most haven't even read the teachings of Christ let alone the the Bible.They've been sent down the wrong path by man's arrogance and recent attempts to refute God.God gave man mind of his own and gave us power over our world and ourselves.He created the earth but does not control it.But most important who are we to judge God? How arrogant to believe we can judge him or decide what he should be like...Man is the cause of all evil in the world!!
Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
Excuse me? Evolution is passe? Yeah, I was crafted by some all powerful douchebag who want's us to serve and worship him, give all my money to the church for charity, only to have it leak out into the already wealthy pockets of church officials and pray to an omnipotent albeit silent ruler. No thanks, I will waste my time playing guitar and burning a joint as I burn in hell for all my "sins."
Religion has caused more wars than any single thing on this planet. Ever.
@hudaline Nothing to lose? How about your intelligence? You missed that. I'll stay as I am and I will simply die and stay dead for eternity. As will you and every person that has or will ever exist.
@Falchorn585 -Loose Intelligence? Some of the most brilliant minds in history and today believe(d) in God or a supreme intelligence.Are you saying your smarter then they are? That billions of believers are non-intelligent? Sounds like you are suffering from illusions of grandeur my friend and Yes stay as you are, and you will end up dead for eternity.
scientists believe the 'we DON'T know how the universe was formed', because there is insufficient evidence pointing to anything
theists claim that a supernatural being designed and created everything, even though there is absolutely no evidence to support this. (existence is not evidence)
its the same as ppl 1000s of years ago believing zeus made lightning bolts appear, because they couldnt explain it.
Why do they keep saying that the alternative to believing god made the universe is to assume that everything happened by accident. I've never heard any sort of scientific theory that proposed that something happened by accident.
And, upon this point, creation IS NOT a theory! They have a fundamental and incontestable idea: a creator MUST exists, no matter if you can explain natural world without it! Science and knowledge of nature through scientific method are the most honest and fruitfull way of confront the problem. Not through a fairytale. ID hurts logic and scientific method in such a way that it is, at best, a religion in disguise of science.
A scientific theory is a inseparable set of IDEAS and ALL known SCIENTIFIC FACTS. The ideas MUST be falsifiable and testable, what does not mean they are dubiuos. A SCIENTIFIC FACT MUST BE VERIFICABLE, although not necesarely reproductible. IDEAS change with time, to remain conected to ALL known FACTS, so THERE IS NO DOGMA in science. The set of facts increases with time - with new facts - but a fact is ALWAYS a fact. So "it's just a theory" has no real meaning, becouse "IT IS a theory".
NNOOOOOOOOOO. DO NOT USE the second law of thermodynamics in vain! And "It's important to understand, that from a scientific point of view, both evolution and creation (not!) must be treated as theories. Now a theory is based or discorded upon the evidence that is presented. To ignore evidence, or a verifiable law because of your bias not only is a poor science, but make the asking of the original question pointless." SO. Who HAS DOGMAS? Who ignore FACTS agains ideas. RELIGIOUS, other science?
this is the most ignorant thing i have ever viewed. it tries to use science as proof, but does not even fully realise the reasons they are using feed directly into atheism. cause and effect is a direct link into evolution, not god. fucking mindless gaffs.
I really started watching this with the best intentions and i was trying to be as open minded as i can, but this is the same old religions crap that can be found anywhere else..
First of all, Christianity is based on faith. Why then do you look so hard or evidence? God said to you, without Faith I am nothing. Why then do you look so hard for evidence. So very hard. Are you afraid? Faith does not feed you well enough, yet it is the very essence of your religion. Give in to logic and thought. Do it.
@lizazoon funny how you say its impossible. why would you think its impossible. also note it was mentioned thousands of years ago by someone else. The more you read the bible you find these events that cant be explained except if its done from outside our time dimention.
"Here is the scientific evidence, expert research, philosophical worldviews and theological research that you won't hear in Public Education, Wikipedia or the liberal media information dispensors."
- and with very good reason.... because it is utter bullshit.
Umm...where is the evidence? I see some (very crappy and already dismissed) philosophical arguments, and some misleading data and bullshit about evolution, but nothing for god. Where is your empirical, testable, observable evidence for god? Don't have it? well then it isn't scientific you fucking moron. Just stop before you go further rehashing shit that has been shoveled before.
Your first point is a false dichotomy and it goes down here from there.
Why cant god and evolution exist together? God could have created evolution as a way to sustain the ever growing universe and all in it. Just like a computer programmer they dont just stick to one way or one program or one code design, they use multiple apps and points of views, also to program u need an app to run all your stuff IE windows or linux or mac. Thus why cant they exist together? and dont give me that bible crap the bible is just a book, nothing more.
I would love to get responses from some ID proponents on why any of this isn't a bunch of horse sh*t, but I acknowledge my use of some compound sentences and polysyllabic words might really throw you people.
This is the most ignorant and nonsensical bunch of misinformation I've ever had the displeasure of destroying a small part of my brain by viewing. Creationists and ID proponents are so proudly and dangerously stupid, I think being such should be grounds for dismissal from public office, revocation of suffrage, confiscation of weaponry and withdrawal of custody rights (because they have the highest divorce rate, isn't that a funny coincidence).
New scientific discoveries that contradict current theories is considered an anomaly. That appears to be causing factual data that could lead to the truth to be hidden or undiscovered keeping the rest of the scientific community in the dark. A scientist should not have to be afraid of loosing their credentials for uncovering facts and then have to hide them. Facts should change the theories not the other way around. Otherwise the truth can never be fully unveiled. Peace and love to all.
There is scientific proof that we all share a higher conciousness, that are intelligence lives on after we pass. The proof is evolution. How do single cells become humans. How do future generations of life on earth evolve and learn, and grow wings or feet to better equip itself if not learned from it's ancestors? Science admittedly knows very little about life and the energies involved. Your energy cannot be destroyed even if your body has been.
No EVIDENCE was offered here, far less any "PROOF." There is no positive evidence for the existence of any god(s), but there IS evidence against the god of the Bible, YHVH. Just as there can not be a one-dimentional swan or a solid gas, or a fossilized flame, there can not be a god of love who devises evil against humanity. Yet YHVH does so regularly. I do not insist that there are no gods, but the evidence is very clear that the god of Abraham, at least, is a myth with no basis in fact.
You are a typical ignorant atheist using the most ill-logical arguments to continually follow a stupid belief
God CLEARLY says he created the devil, and the devil is in charge of all evil
Let me ask you, have you ever hurt someone, that person could then say God doesn't exist because he suffered pain but you did it not god, freedom of sin is what GOD gave us
ATHEISTS ARE SO STUPID, thats the dumbest argument to justify evolution
"You are a typical ignorant atheist" Just hang on to those insults for a few years. When you're an adult you'll realize that they don't add anything to your argument. God created evil "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 and god causes evil "shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?" Amos 3:6 The Bible tells me so.
"God CLEARLY says he created the devil, and the devil is in charge of all evil"
Which god supposedly created which still means he's the source of evil, it's like the frankenstein argument is frankenstein the monster responsible for it's evil actions or is it the creator of the monster who gave it it's temperaments, abilities and limitations that should be accountable for it's evil deeds?
Evolution is the observation that populations change over time
The theory of evolution explains how it happens via mutations selected by natural selection and varies dependent upon many natural factors.
What you object to is that we have sufficient evidence to support this all the way to distant primitive common ancestors with molecular evidence, fossil evidence, embryological development evidence, homologous structures without fail
@garith21 If evolution happened from mutations through natural selection then why did humans become physically weaker than the chimp? If natural selection happened we would have retained the speed, agility and strength of the animals we supposedly evolved from. BTW, there are no transitional fossils found linking different species. Fossil transitions were only found within their own specie. That is not sufficient evidence to prove evolution. peace.
1) We're not descendant from the modern chimp, we're descendant from a common ancestor with the modern chimp
2) Natural selection only acts upon what has a general negative effect for the species dependent upon it's niche, as an example, we have an inactivated gene to synthesize vitamin C which is bad since without vitamin C we suffer from scurvy, however the diets of our ancestors had vitamin C in it so it didn't have enough negative effect to affect our survival.
"there are no transitional fossils found linking different species. "
That's a bit of a play on words since we see many transitional fossils where we see no modern day of that particular species but we see many species leading up to modern day species but aren't those modern day species and none of those modern day species are in the fossil records, if creationism is true then we should only see modern day species, but we don't see that do we?
Also as a note, we've observed species emerging in modern day populations, though I suspect you don't have any idea what a specie even is judging by your wording of your statement and have this very vague idea of "kind" in your head which no creationist will ever define in any independently verifiable and non vague way.
@garith21 No we did not evolve. If that were the case then human skeletons would not have been found in strata dating back millions of years, see forbidden archeology.
There are many human skeletons dating millions of years which isn't a big deal especially since they're different species of human, but if creationism were true why would we not find it billions of years, and why must it be a different species of human rather than a modern species of human =P.
HAHAHAHA! No... God was never real.
Steelioss 2 weeks ago
@Steelioss He is REAL cos I am he.
Dectheboner 2 weeks ago
@Dectheboner Nope. You're because your parents had sexy time. No other reason.
Steelioss 2 weeks ago
@Steelioss Same for you ASSHOLE
Dectheboner 2 weeks ago
@Dectheboner I know lol. And calling me an asshole isn't very "Christy" wouldn't you agree? I thought you went by the "turn the other cheek" thingy. lol
Steelioss 2 weeks ago
@Steelioss Thats because you are an asshole. All Athiests are ignorant assholes and no i'm not religious. I personally think religion is bullshit
Dectheboner 2 weeks ago
@Dectheboner wat...
Then why do you argue about this? You're strange.
Steelioss 2 weeks ago
@Dectheboner I dont believe in man made religion that doesn't stop me form thinking that there may be a God. I keep an open mind there could be. Even if athiests say there is no evidence to prove God's existance. Who is anyone to say there isn't a God and who is anyone to say there is. Does anyone know the real truth. Do you???
Dectheboner 2 weeks ago
I love how they add: "LIBERAL MEDIA INFORMATION DISPENSERS" at the end of the description for the video.
2:33 - About to bring up the teleological argument. I can tell that this video is really going to give me a lot of scientific EVIDENCE and PROOF! I know for certain that it won't be bringing up old/shitty arguments of creation!
3:20 - Guy claims that there's lots of evidence for the existence of God. So instead of providing it, he calls non-believers idiots. Classic.
joshbmorrow 1 month ago
hahahahahahhahahahahhahaha. wow
gwood1991 4 months ago
A building gets vandalized. We find a list of potential suspects who could've done it. Based on the fact that there's a big spray painting on the wall, we know there was a vandal. And we focus, completely arbitrarily, on Suspect #3.
There's no specific reason to believe it was Suspect #3, nor any evidence. But there's a spray-painting. There has to be a vandal. And we should assume, on nothing, that vandal = Suspect #3.
MrJimmyNapoleon 4 months ago
can not explain it. Scientist attempts to unravel the mystery with their biased opinions and subjective theories, but truth is their knowledge is limited. While God's omniscience is infinite. Why should I put my trust in a fragile man who rely on another man to teach what he can barely explain, Thank God for experience, the best teacher. If it had not been for the personal experiences and encounters I've had with God I could have been subject to believe their lies of it being no God, Thank God
Mschocolalicious 5 months ago
Atheism is the rejection in the existence of God. Now, my argument is, they want us to prove God exist through a type of physical manifestation and we can't prove God in this way. There is a time reserved for this type of evidence to take place, its called death, however, creation is the ultimate proof God is real. The universe in all it's majestic array which can not be explained with definitive objective explainations is ultimate proof. God's omni-science, is unquestionable. and man's science
Mschocolalicious 5 months ago
@Mschocolalicious
"There is a time reserved for this type of evidence to take place, its called death"
And isn't that convenient.
"Scientist attempts to unravel the mystery with their biased opinions and subjective theories"
A subjective theory didn't build the computer you're typing on, or design this website, or the Internet at large. The supposedly untrustworthy science is the only reason you have electricity to power any of it, the reason you're probably not living in a hut.
MrJimmyNapoleon 4 months ago
I think you'd have to be an idiot to believe what the bible says...
41ofus 6 months ago
@41ofus Not so much an idiot... Just believeing that there is more to life.. That we are here for an even bigger purpose to live, die, and turn into atoms... I dont believe someone who is an Athiast is ignorant. But I definitely don't believe religious people are ignorant either.. We all have our own opinions, try not to be so close minded pal..
lilmurphy01 5 months ago
@lilmurphy01 It's not about being "closed minded" as it is being a good listener of one's own experiance. I've done the bible thing, the church thing, the AA thing; and all that stuff is B.S., it really is. You have to be opened minded to than be singled minded.
41ofus 5 months ago
@41ofus Its not Gods job to come down and make everything better for you. Life is about making your own choices and learning from them. It is also about having faith, and without it you will always be lost. I am not claiming to be better then anyone what so ever.. I just have a strong faith in God and an afterlife that nobody can take away from me. If God showed himself and things, then or purpose in living would be pointless. We are here to learn and grow.
lilmurphy01 5 months ago
A watch is made, not created by accident. YEAHH THAT PROVES EVERYTHING,, FUCKING GREAT! Your all genious'
AskingSylosis 7 months ago
I am god, the proof of me being god is in this text box, and you can trust this text box. How can you trust this text box? Because god says you can trust this text box through this text box. You believed me with the book, you will believe me here. BTW, are you guys stoning unruly teenagers to death? Because you should be, I told you that in the bible.
Jed0fSpades 7 months ago
What a load of crap!
God is wishful thinking by preachers so they can continue to con their flocks out of money...period.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 7 months ago
Then, HE got lonely, zapped Adam onto the earth. Adam got lonely, broke one of his ribs off, and bam, wow, ok, now there's Eve. So what, we are all decendants of some incest between Adam and his clone Eve? - Whoever wrote this shit must've been high, but not sure what everyone else's excuse for beleiving this shit is. It woud make a great plot in a Red Dwarf Ep.
geminired4 7 months ago
OK, guys, this video is hilarious.
So, it's not realistic that all matter, atoms, forces e.t.c. over billions of years could have come together to become what we know today... however... for some reason a vast portion of the world believes that some creator, made the world, universe & everything in 7 days, (oops, sorry, 6 days, it was hard work, so he needed a bit of a break on the 7th).
geminired4 7 months ago
Do the terms "evidence" and "proof" have different meanings if they're spelled all in capitals?
I don't mean to be rude, but I can safely say this is false advertising. Stupid old men asserting "there are a lot of evidences for the existence of god... like the bible for example" doesn't actually constitute evidence.
ragnarok343 8 months ago
I like how u can say open our eyes when it seems that your the blind one lol Satan has deceived u and he has done a good job I must say. But let me ask u. If u were to rob a house would u turn on all the lights???
anniberry1 8 months ago
@ atlanticmighty it's funny how u laugh at the truth that's how u know u have lived a lie
anniberry1 8 months ago
The logic behind this video's premise is so incredibly flawed one cannot help but laugh out loud....
AtlanticMighty 8 months ago
Fuck this ignorant bullshit you people need to realize fact or fiction the bible is just a fictional book What makes you think that you're right and islam is wrong come on people open ur blind eyes
canbuyu 8 months ago
both sides of the argument go in circles to the opposite side of the argument. the only difference is that a creationist has an explination. though the explination may seem loony to the other side it is still an explination. atheist side boiles down to being more obsured that nothing made somthing, when the same arguer will tell you they believe in fact and the fact is that nothing produces nothing or 0=0. but yet they believe that 0 can = 4 billion.
gabbe7 9 months ago
as the watch demands a watch maker so the world demands a world make well who made the world make? there was no evidence in this vid other than the same old bull crap creationists have always been saying
FATJOB 9 months ago
No no, it's not evidence if you pull it out of your ass, that's what we call "crap".
gen77c 9 months ago
I got to the watchmaker analogy before stopping this crock of shit.
Pinage 9 months ago
From your "show more":
"Evolution is just a passe theory devised before the discovery of DNA design by a primitive atheist. Please expand your mind and move beyond these outdated stabs at atheism."
Really, now? DNA CONFIRMS evolutionary theory. And please don't give me any of that nonsense about increases in genetic "information", because whichever way you choose to define "information" there are plenty of examples of "increases" in it.
TADahar 10 months ago
Strawman, argument from ignorance, and argument from authority (maybe, seeing as "studied" isn't clearly defined. I studied a lot of different sciences too...)
You're right, we won't get anywhere.
You've come to the conclusion that "there's something there." And with such a nebulous claim how is someone even supposed to address it? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not even saying your family member's wrong... I'm definitely saying the two videos you cited are wrong, outdated and very biased.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
Not "nothing".
We don't know from what yet.
Also, an action having a greater reaction implies energy coming from another source.
Seriously... why aren't you looking it up.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 Of course we dont know what yet, but you JUST made the statement & I quote "We don't know from what yet" & by that you mean we don't know what the universe expanded from; which I agree. But you making that statement implies my point to be correct. You said we dont know from what but we DO know there actually was a "what" I.E. a cause I.E. an explosion. We just don't know what caused it. Christians believe God caused it Atheist say we don't know.
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson I'm getting frustrated, but I'm assuming this is the first time you've really considered these concepts. There is no implied cause, and it DEFINITELY wasn't an explosion.
Also I find it insulting to my Christian friends to say that they believe God caused the Big Bang. Usually if you've spent even a moderate amount of time researching this, even the most pious Christian cannot conclude without blatantly lying that "God did it".
I'll say it for the last time: Research this stuff.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 I'm sorry you feel that way but you are not opening your mind to all possibilities. Christians who know science & logic do not reject the theory of the Big Bang; it gives a pretty good explaination of "how" creation" happened.....we simply believe the is another factor to this theory..."why" there was creation; hat is a question Science can never answer. I believe in the Big Bang I just believe that God was the cause of it or the one who "banged" it.
IamGarySimpson 10 months ago
@IamGarySimpson If I'm ever presented an argument or piece of evidence that doesn't immediately violate a logical fallacy, or completely lie about factual sciences, I'll entertain it. Till then, please don't say I have a closed mind.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 What is something someone could show you that would convince you?
IamGarySimpson 10 months ago
@IamGarySimpson Convince me of what? Convince me of a god? This god which when to the most extraordinary lengths to hide it's existence? A God who created a universe where the laws of physics expressly forbid it's existence, and it has to exist outside of it?
Are ALL scientists lying to us in your view of reality? And the provable liars of this profiteering religion deserve creditability for some reason? I simply don't understand you.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 I once watched a vid where a dr. asked scientist to look into and research NDE. That there is something to it. That is much more than dmt. Well, the scientist's wrote back and said, they had no desire to research that. Then went on to say that, if it was proved it exists, then it would (basicly) make them look like liars. See, they do not believe in GOD or anything of that nature. A superior being. Soooooo, they do not want anyone else to as well. And this is not joke either.
LanaV6 10 months ago
@LanaV6 What's not a joke? Who's "them"? Doctor of what? "A scientist" of what? A scientist didn't want to research something because it might prove god? NDE doesn't prove anything except NDE.
Moreover, people were dying long before the God story was concocted, so it's pretty plain to see that they just tailored the story of "entering heaven" to coincide with near death experience accounts.
Your story proves you're gullible and foolish, not that NDE research has any value.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 Here ya go. I doubt you would research on your own. Because most do not want the truth. But, you should. i have to give you names of the vid's. yt will not make me put in the link. The Scientific and Rationalist Case for Life After Death - 1 (cfpfuk) also this one. DMT debunked as cause of Near death experiences by Medical doctors who have studied the (GoldenLightD). there are so many others. Like athesists haveing a NDE. I doubt you will admit it though. no biggy for me.
LanaV6 10 months ago
@LanaV6 How can you conclude your position is the truth? These videos are really tenuous and inconclusive AT BEST. Especially in the first one; it feels like he's working with an understanding of the human brain from about 20 years ago. Speaking on research, you may want to read even the most basic book on how synapses in the human brain work.
Neither video functions on even the most basic level as an argument for life after death, and the really sad fact is that you SHOULD know this already.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 I am sorry, but, it is a known fact, when the brain dies, there is no more activity. Nothing happens. Then explain why so many die for long periods of time, Have a NDE? Or how people born blind can see? Even describe tools, machines used on them. Dr's? Or how they hear the whole converstion? The brain dies. But the soul goes on. Even atheists change after a NDE. They will tell you, It was no dream. Or hallucination. The Scientist admitted they will not look into it. IN fear of
LanaV6 10 months ago
@LanaV6 It's not a known fact, actually, that's complete and utter horseshit. When the brain dies, there's a fair amount of residual information stored in the brain for HOURS after death. There's a strain of malaria which reignites the brain stem about an hour after death, and makes the dead host jitter about like a zombie-stroke victim.
People who are born blind aren't automatically exempt from having a visual cortex in their brain.
You should know this too... maybe not the malaria thing.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 When u say jitter about like a zombie? It was said, it was our nerves. Now it is malaria? sheeesh I guess not too many people believed the first lie. I am sorry, It is what it is. I have a family member who studied 20 or 30 sciences. HE told me that most is unknown so they come up with things that sound good. (not in his words. I have a very bad memory, so I can't remember his exact words) Sorry about that. Anyhow. I am done. We will get no where. But thank you.
LanaV6 10 months ago
@LanaV6 Also simply put, I would never disregard anything in the realm of "brain weirdness" but it simply doesn't prove a soul or an afterlife.
They're lying, and you're now lying for them. Truth is a process, and you've jumped to a conclusion which you cannot yet support just because it makes you feel more comfortable.
There is no matter of "to each their own" or "agree to disagree." You're wrong, stuck in a static quagmire of religious assumptions, and you won't grow till you see that.
ragnarok343 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 I have read many books, saw many specials. Watched many videos on NDE. There is more to it than scientist will say or give credit. I am grateful for the brave Dr's and Scientist that have and agree. It is more than dmt and any other explaination they came up with. Children have had it. Athesists have had it. All changed dramatically from it. Saying they heard, FELT and saw. All! Anyhow. I wish you would be able to talk with my family member on this. You would both enjoy the talk.
LanaV6 10 months ago
@ragnarok343 looking stupid. They do not believe so they make up stupid things. So of course they will look stupid. What can I say? lol Anyhow, You and I both know, we will get no where with this. Especially after hearing them admit they won't? Which to me means only one thing. They know it can be true, but do not want a part in it. Why else would scientist say, NO! to researching it? Ever think about that? Anyhow. I hope you have a good day. To each their own I guess. :o)
LanaV6 10 months ago
How old is this video? Were people easier to trick in the 80's or early 90's?
A watch has a creator, so the universe does? Completely insane.
The big bang wasn't an "explosion" it was an "expansion.
I lost track of the logical fallacies after about 4 minutes, not to mention they kept talking about evidence and literally never presented any.
These are the kind of videos crazy people produce. But it's significantly more likely they're fully aware of their logical holes and are simply lying.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 The Big Bang was an explosion hence the word "Bang". And your example use of a volcanoes proves my point. The explosion from a volcano cause destruction not order.
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson Flawless logic... I suppose the Cambrian explosion was an actual explosion too?
Also the fundamental point of my argument was that volcanoes create significantly more order than disorder. Similar to releasing air from a balloon to relieve pressure. How can you cite that example, and not address that?
You simply cannot be this stupid. For both our sakes, I hope you're a troll.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 Releasing air from a ballon is not a random act. Someone has to release it therefore giving the act a cause (to release pressure). Without a causer to "release the air out of the ballon" to create the universe the universe serves no purpose which means it has no order. And I think we would both agree that by the laws of physics cannot be correct.
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson Oh dear, you're being genuine... I'm so sorry.
Look man, I can't help you understand these really basic principles. I would suggest reading a physics text book, or even enrolling in a course because you've demonstrated a severe lack of misunderstanding in the sciences. Physics isn't word-play. When they say "bang" it doesn't imply an explosion.
If you're religious, that's perfectly fine, but please recognize that these men are all misrepresenting tested facts about the universe.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 Don't avoid response by trying to discrediting my knowledge of science and physics. You said the the purpose of letting air out of a ballon is to release pressure; how can the pressure be released without the actual act of someone releasing it? The act give it a purpose, simple logic. A gun doesn't shoot itself, it has a shooter. The shooter gives the gun its purpose. Give me one example of the use of the word "bang" that has no reference to an act of an explosion or collison please
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson I ignored it because part of that argument was someone "causing it", that has no bearing on the model I proposed.
The Big Bang is an example of the use of the word "bang" that has no reference to an act of an explosion.
We're done.
You've demonstrated you don't have the tool-set necessary to debate this topic properly, this is the second time I've had to repeat myself, so I assume you're not listening too. Please consider learning about this stuff from a creditable source.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 Your understanding of an actual "bang" is incorrect . "Bang" is defined in the dictionary as "a loud, sudden, explosive noise, as the discharge of a gun." The Big Bang was a sudden single act NOT an expansion. The expansion of the universe is the result effect of the bang not the bang itself. Youcan give no example of something a bang & not be an explosion because you have nothing to support your claim of a bang not being an sudden explosive act; the dictionary defines it as that.
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson The term big bang was coined in the 40's... I can happily assure you there was no actual bang, especially in a vacuum. You're really stuck on that word, eh?
"Cosmological Expansion Event" was too long to become a layman's term, I guess, so it got the rather quaint title, "Big Bang."
I'll say it again, put down the dictionary for the moment, and look up these terms in a science textbook. Start with research, and then you can have an educated opinion, rather than a baseless one.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
@ragnarok343 So you're telling me that the Big Bang was not an actual "bang" but a cosmological expansion from nothing? Does that sound logical? If something expands....it has to be expanding from something. An expanison is a reaction. In order to have a REaction you must first have an actual act. Every action "Big Bang" has an equal or greater REaction "expansion".
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
They made a great point at the end. Name one uncontrolled explosion that has ever caused order instead of destruction. Such an explosion is impossible to be indentified yet one would have you believe that an explosion without a cause created everything within this physical dimension in complete unison with each other?
IamGarySimpson 11 months ago
@IamGarySimpson That was in fact a pathetically weak point.
The big bang wasn't actually an explosion, but it DID in fact leave the universe in a general disarray. It was the gravitation pull and other physical constants over the course of BILLIONS of years which created the world you're looking at today.
Off topic, but volcanoes are uncontrolled explosions that release pressure on the earth's crust. The earth is in essence regulating itself.
ragnarok343 11 months ago
fuck athiests
hairysaccs 11 months ago
how i like to see from heaven these FOOLISH people who don't believe in God! when you people get to hell, don't you ever ask for God's mercy, YOU ATHEISTS DESERVED TO GO TO HELL- where fire is not quenched and the worms die not!
moonplayzsenti 11 months ago
@moonplayzsenti Watch the hate, Jesus did teach us to love. Atheists frustrate me too, but baching them doesnt help much
aninjru 11 months ago
people make watches so god must have made people heard it before its a stupid argument. think rationally and god isn't real is the only conclusion you can come to and saying satan twists science to remove us from god is a cop out. your basically saying i cant think of a logical argument and there is no god. saying that is to say that the scientific argument obviously pwns god so satan must have created it grow up and accept the facts its time to move past fairy tales
krisc12 1 year ago
there are no other opinions form the people who don't believe in creationism in this video, and you can't say all explosions are disastrous like eruptions on the sun that give us energy for life. they say we need to look from boths sides but they don't have someone who stands for the other side.
raptormancro 1 year ago
too much pride..they say science can explain anything even life come on people can science make life i agree they an explain how dos it forms bla bla but they can really make life,,yeah a toy or a robot dancing..coz that only science or technology can do..
and they say life comes from evolution yah right coz they have a monkey brain that believes on it...
neiveweird1 1 year ago
science is the best weapon of satans
why? coz satan doesnt want us to believe in GOD
neiveweird1 1 year ago
@neiveweird1 Close, but no cigar, Satan doesn't want us to believe in him. The more unaware you are of your enemy, the closer he can get ;) But yes, Satan loves science, why wouldn't he, he created it!.
IronCladLady81 1 year ago
@IronCladLady81 So if Satan created science then Satan wants us to become more intelligent and develop our society for the better and God wants us to be mindless servants who have no intelligence or understanding of the world... Based on your logic I should change my view from atheism to worshiping Satan lol!
Sniperz14x 1 year ago
@Sniperz14x Well technically we created science, but at his suggestion.
IronCladLady81 1 year ago
@IronCladLady81 By his suggestion do you mean Satan or god? Because if you still mean Satan, then what I said still stands. Science has given us so many wonderful things and clearly if Satan gave us science he should be revered above god (Not that I believe in either, its just the principle)
Sniperz14x 1 year ago
@Sniperz14x Yes I mean Satan. I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself here, so let me start over.
Here's what I should have said, "Satan twists science in an effort to remove us from the presence of God."
Maybe science is a gift to us, but it seems anything that progresses us can also hinder us if we allow it.
IronCladLady81 1 year ago
@IronCladLady81 Ah okay I do see your point, that makes a lot of sense and I cannot argue against that really. My original comment was just because it seemed people were saying science as whole was evil and that is clearly not true.
Cheers :)
Sniperz14x 1 year ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.... ha ha. hee hee, sorry can't stop laughing. I feel sorry for any moron who accepts these logical fallacies as proof.
urcritic 1 year ago 2
God may exist, but the God of the Bible only exists between the covers of a book, and between the ears of the believers.
dagoose109 1 year ago
@dagoose109: Oh, be reasonable, we all know there is nothing between the ears of a believer.
et384 1 year ago
I like how people think that it's totally up to God to do every thing for us, lol.. "Omg he didn't save my pet kitty in the third grade, my best friends third cousin died in a shooting".Those are events perpetuated by us, to us. It's not up to God to clean up our messes every, single, time, we screw up.. o.O Remember in the bible, all the stories of hardship? Testing one's faith by way of tragedy? Come on kids, before you start disputing the bible, at least learn how to fake having even read it.
YoujiNoTsuki 1 year ago
@YoujiNoTsuki >I agree wholeheartedly.It sounds like most haven't even read the teachings of Christ let alone the the Bible.They've been sent down the wrong path by man's arrogance and recent attempts to refute God.God gave man mind of his own and gave us power over our world and ourselves.He created the earth but does not control it.But most important who are we to judge God? How arrogant to believe we can judge him or decide what he should be like...Man is the cause of all evil in the world!!
Flagrum3 1 year ago
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Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
lizazoon 1 year ago
this video is brilliant im a thiest and believe in alot of science and a lot points twoards god athiests are just lost and stubborn
IfinduIgetu 1 year ago
Excuse me? Evolution is passe? Yeah, I was crafted by some all powerful douchebag who want's us to serve and worship him, give all my money to the church for charity, only to have it leak out into the already wealthy pockets of church officials and pray to an omnipotent albeit silent ruler. No thanks, I will waste my time playing guitar and burning a joint as I burn in hell for all my "sins."
Religion has caused more wars than any single thing on this planet. Ever.
solidussmith 1 year ago
There is nothing to lose when u believe in God... Unless u wanna go hell then stay as u are...
hudaline 1 year ago
@hudaline
Which god?
Harizl 1 year ago
@hudaline Nothing to lose? How about your intelligence? You missed that. I'll stay as I am and I will simply die and stay dead for eternity. As will you and every person that has or will ever exist.
Falchorn585 1 year ago
@Falchorn585 -Loose Intelligence? Some of the most brilliant minds in history and today believe(d) in God or a supreme intelligence.Are you saying your smarter then they are? That billions of believers are non-intelligent? Sounds like you are suffering from illusions of grandeur my friend and Yes stay as you are, and you will end up dead for eternity.
Flagrum3 1 year ago
im a man of science even i highly doubt science can justifiy the transitions and belifes of god
paradox3578 1 year ago
i'm an idiot, the bald guy says so
Teknokossack 1 year ago
No ones going to answer my questions? Good, I thought for a second I'd have to watch all the other parts of this video
Stuartsaves 1 year ago
@Stuartsaves The answers to your questions, unless there are some I missed (please reply with any I did), are:
1) Yes, it is a false dichotomy.
2) They didn't get the 2nd law correct. They are using an over simplified version of it.
3) Because they only understand their straw-man version of the big bang theory instead of what it actually says.
4) Because setting up a straw-man about chance is much easier than actually dealing with what science knows about the world.
lhvinny 1 year ago
lol this vid is just such a joke.
magnum13th 1 year ago
this video is completely invalid
nobody thinks the universe happened by chance.
scientists believe the 'we DON'T know how the universe was formed', because there is insufficient evidence pointing to anything
theists claim that a supernatural being designed and created everything, even though there is absolutely no evidence to support this. (existence is not evidence)
its the same as ppl 1000s of years ago believing zeus made lightning bolts appear, because they couldnt explain it.
magnum13th 1 year ago
Why do they keep saying that the alternative to believing god made the universe is to assume that everything happened by accident. I've never heard any sort of scientific theory that proposed that something happened by accident.
Stuartsaves 1 year ago
Why are they comparing the big bang to an explosion?
Stuartsaves 1 year ago
I don't think they got the definition of the second law of thermodynamics quite right here....
Stuartsaves 1 year ago
'There are really only two answers as to how we are here: design or chance"
This is a false dichotomy is it not?
Stuartsaves 1 year ago
And, NOT, a watch DOES NOT prove god exists.
anonimoculto 1 year ago
And, upon this point, creation IS NOT a theory! They have a fundamental and incontestable idea: a creator MUST exists, no matter if you can explain natural world without it! Science and knowledge of nature through scientific method are the most honest and fruitfull way of confront the problem. Not through a fairytale. ID hurts logic and scientific method in such a way that it is, at best, a religion in disguise of science.
anonimoculto 1 year ago
A scientific theory is a inseparable set of IDEAS and ALL known SCIENTIFIC FACTS. The ideas MUST be falsifiable and testable, what does not mean they are dubiuos. A SCIENTIFIC FACT MUST BE VERIFICABLE, although not necesarely reproductible. IDEAS change with time, to remain conected to ALL known FACTS, so THERE IS NO DOGMA in science. The set of facts increases with time - with new facts - but a fact is ALWAYS a fact. So "it's just a theory" has no real meaning, becouse "IT IS a theory".
anonimoculto 1 year ago
NNOOOOOOOOOO. DO NOT USE the second law of thermodynamics in vain! And "It's important to understand, that from a scientific point of view, both evolution and creation (not!) must be treated as theories. Now a theory is based or discorded upon the evidence that is presented. To ignore evidence, or a verifiable law because of your bias not only is a poor science, but make the asking of the original question pointless." SO. Who HAS DOGMAS? Who ignore FACTS agains ideas. RELIGIOUS, other science?
anonimoculto 1 year ago
Oh no, not the 'Watchmaker' argument. Debunked so many times. Way to be current, creationists.
Gorteenminogue 1 year ago
there is no fucking evidence provided in the films.
morons.
zachkr 1 year ago
this is the most ignorant thing i have ever viewed. it tries to use science as proof, but does not even fully realise the reasons they are using feed directly into atheism. cause and effect is a direct link into evolution, not god. fucking mindless gaffs.
zachkr 1 year ago
I really started watching this with the best intentions and i was trying to be as open minded as i can, but this is the same old religions crap that can be found anywhere else..
eran5005 1 year ago
First of all, Christianity is based on faith. Why then do you look so hard or evidence? God said to you, without Faith I am nothing. Why then do you look so hard for evidence. So very hard. Are you afraid? Faith does not feed you well enough, yet it is the very essence of your religion. Give in to logic and thought. Do it.
Reverend0Locrian 1 year ago
If god wanted us to believe in him, he could have given us an irrefutable little sign, like inserting ---"E=mc²"--- in the bible.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon good one mate
ernestas111 1 year ago
@lizazoon 38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the Law said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you.”
39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
malkiFoxX 1 year ago
@malkiFoxX Jonah ,one more of those impossible bible stories. Nonsense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon funny how you say its impossible. why would you think its impossible. also note it was mentioned thousands of years ago by someone else. The more you read the bible you find these events that cant be explained except if its done from outside our time dimention.
pjz1967 1 year ago
@pjz1967 What is impossible to achieve out side of the bible is also impossible in biblical times. Bible stories are just that --,fairy tales.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon you may say bible is a fairy tales, but i know one thing for sure is that god exists!!!!!!!!
TranThanhHai1 1 year ago
@TranThanhHai1 You have a right to believe what you want. Just keep your belief out of public funded schools.
lizazoon 1 year ago
this is sooo dumb its amazing !!! comparing a watch with the universe is just the wrong way to look at reallity !!
themightygermanman 1 year ago
@themightygermanman Obviously, the universe has to be a watch or else there would be no time.
Skrothn 1 year ago
The man on the beach is proof of a man on the beach.
The watch is proof of a watch.
But I have verifiable information available through media and personal experience that tell me where the watch came from.
I also have verifiable information on where the man cam from.
None of that exists for the universe.
Our best information only shows a singular point from which all that we are aware of emerged around 13 billion years ago.
Science doesn't say a god didn't do it.
corthew 1 year ago
"Here is the scientific evidence, expert research, philosophical worldviews and theological research that you won't hear in Public Education, Wikipedia or the liberal media information dispensors."
- and with very good reason.... because it is utter bullshit.
nolobede 1 year ago
Ha, Ha... I love these YouTube parodies of creationists!!! Oopps...
AtticusSD 1 year ago
Now suddenly I understand! How could I have been so blind.
God really DOES exist!
In your sorry little childish imagination, that is.
henkvanderlaak 1 year ago
As soon as I saw this jack ass was standing on a beach I knew I was in for the watchmaker argument.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
@GallusSapien I agree.
That guy with manly costume, hairdo nicely in order, and big posh English accent..... is standing on a beach in freaking nowhere :P
gunblade64 1 year ago
Umm...where is the evidence? I see some (very crappy and already dismissed) philosophical arguments, and some misleading data and bullshit about evolution, but nothing for god. Where is your empirical, testable, observable evidence for god? Don't have it? well then it isn't scientific you fucking moron. Just stop before you go further rehashing shit that has been shoveled before.
Your first point is a false dichotomy and it goes down here from there.
A crystal is complex, yet is natural process.
dragonmatt5 1 year ago
Why cant god and evolution exist together? God could have created evolution as a way to sustain the ever growing universe and all in it. Just like a computer programmer they dont just stick to one way or one program or one code design, they use multiple apps and points of views, also to program u need an app to run all your stuff IE windows or linux or mac. Thus why cant they exist together? and dont give me that bible crap the bible is just a book, nothing more.
UmakeMeSYK 1 year ago
this is such a joke, to argue that a watch needed a maker so does the universe
open your minds people.
druminanddriven 1 year ago
is this supposed to be some kind of sick joke?
ricktor002 1 year ago
We won the cosmic lottery, now grow up and let's not waste our time on dreaming of the afterlife.
Hedcase71 1 year ago
Wow! Critical thinking skills = nonexistant in whoever made this video.
cobrompton 1 year ago
lol!!!
LBiolSci 1 year ago
Jesus Christ... skip the intro: 1:10
2:20 The next few seconds will make any rational man or woman close this video.
Segepop 1 year ago
praise Krishna!
jojoinhere 1 year ago
Wow, the first few sentences and this idiot is already erecting a strawman.
MrFungus420 1 year ago
@MrFungus420 is it just me, or is this video just a terribly poor attempt at a christian version of Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"?
tanner9072 1 year ago
I would love to get responses from some ID proponents on why any of this isn't a bunch of horse sh*t, but I acknowledge my use of some compound sentences and polysyllabic words might really throw you people.
Hope to hear from ya, don't hurt yourselves.
philippides 1 year ago
This is the most ignorant and nonsensical bunch of misinformation I've ever had the displeasure of destroying a small part of my brain by viewing. Creationists and ID proponents are so proudly and dangerously stupid, I think being such should be grounds for dismissal from public office, revocation of suffrage, confiscation of weaponry and withdrawal of custody rights (because they have the highest divorce rate, isn't that a funny coincidence).
philippides 1 year ago
New scientific discoveries that contradict current theories is considered an anomaly. That appears to be causing factual data that could lead to the truth to be hidden or undiscovered keeping the rest of the scientific community in the dark. A scientist should not have to be afraid of loosing their credentials for uncovering facts and then have to hide them. Facts should change the theories not the other way around. Otherwise the truth can never be fully unveiled. Peace and love to all.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
i think life was created by aliens, the sumerians drew our solarsystem thousands of years ago.....
barca911 1 year ago
god is real
atheists do not exist
they really do believe in god deep inside
ClythiaMystica 1 year ago
@ClythiaMystica I don't know what's wrong with these people. lol Of course he does.
Modelmaterial7 1 year ago
@ClythiaMystica
God is fake
theists do not exist
they really do believe god doesn't exist deep inside
See how that works?
garith21 1 year ago
@ClythiaMystica you know he doesn't exist deep inside.
MakeNine42 1 year ago
@MakeNine42 that's rediculous, i have faith in my creator
ClythiaMystica 1 year ago
Believe what you want to believe. No one should pressure anyone into believing or not believing in God.
TheNicholas0202 1 year ago
There is scientific proof that we all share a higher conciousness, that are intelligence lives on after we pass. The proof is evolution. How do single cells become humans. How do future generations of life on earth evolve and learn, and grow wings or feet to better equip itself if not learned from it's ancestors? Science admittedly knows very little about life and the energies involved. Your energy cannot be destroyed even if your body has been.
pittyshants 1 year ago
@pittyshants
its not energy per se, its a molecules called DNA and RNA
affablegiraffable 1 year ago
@affablegiraffable We are also made up of water and atoms, along with the DNA and RNA which all contain energy.
pittyshants 1 year ago
@pittyshants
right, but you were asking how information gets passed on.
moreover, i think you misunderstand what energy is, or atleast you're using it in a way that is not well defined
affablegiraffable 1 year ago
wow that was really undeniable proof. A watch is designed by a watchmaker which means the universe was designed by god which means jesus is real.
kayythanks.
vickyg810 1 year ago
I would accept nothing more than the presence of a extra-dimensional super being claiming to be GOD. But I would still ask him for his I.D.
BrimstoneHellfire 1 year ago
Oh man, I have to quit, they are using the watch nonesense again.
1stLtDavis 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
You are a typical ignorant atheist using the most ill-logical arguments to continually follow a stupid belief
God CLEARLY says he created the devil, and the devil is in charge of all evil
Let me ask you, have you ever hurt someone, that person could then say God doesn't exist because he suffered pain but you did it not god, freedom of sin is what GOD gave us
ATHEISTS ARE SO STUPID, thats the dumbest argument to justify evolution
kccalden 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
"thats the dumbest argument to justify evolution"
It's very difficult to follow your thought processes-
which "argument for evolution" are you referring to?
Be sure to go to college if you can get there-
you'll learn to think clearly
and to express yourself in a coherent manner.
Also, education dissolves religion.
For those very reasons.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@kccalden
"God CLEARLY says he created the devil, and the devil is in charge of all evil"
Which god supposedly created which still means he's the source of evil, it's like the frankenstein argument is frankenstein the monster responsible for it's evil actions or is it the creator of the monster who gave it it's temperaments, abilities and limitations that should be accountable for it's evil deeds?
garith21 1 year ago
@kccalden
" thats the dumbest argument to justify evolution"
Atheism and evolution aren't synonymous one can be an atheist without accepting evolution and one can accept evolution without being an atheist.
garith21 1 year ago
@kccalden
Evolution is the observation that populations change over time
The theory of evolution explains how it happens via mutations selected by natural selection and varies dependent upon many natural factors.
What you object to is that we have sufficient evidence to support this all the way to distant primitive common ancestors with molecular evidence, fossil evidence, embryological development evidence, homologous structures without fail
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 If evolution happened from mutations through natural selection then why did humans become physically weaker than the chimp? If natural selection happened we would have retained the speed, agility and strength of the animals we supposedly evolved from. BTW, there are no transitional fossils found linking different species. Fossil transitions were only found within their own specie. That is not sufficient evidence to prove evolution. peace.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger
1) We're not descendant from the modern chimp, we're descendant from a common ancestor with the modern chimp
2) Natural selection only acts upon what has a general negative effect for the species dependent upon it's niche, as an example, we have an inactivated gene to synthesize vitamin C which is bad since without vitamin C we suffer from scurvy, however the diets of our ancestors had vitamin C in it so it didn't have enough negative effect to affect our survival.
garith21 1 year ago
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@GateMessenger
"there are no transitional fossils found linking different species. "
That's a bit of a play on words since we see many transitional fossils where we see no modern day of that particular species but we see many species leading up to modern day species but aren't those modern day species and none of those modern day species are in the fossil records, if creationism is true then we should only see modern day species, but we don't see that do we?
garith21 1 year ago
@GateMessenger
Also as a note, we've observed species emerging in modern day populations, though I suspect you don't have any idea what a specie even is judging by your wording of your statement and have this very vague idea of "kind" in your head which no creationist will ever define in any independently verifiable and non vague way.
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 No we did not evolve. If that were the case then human skeletons would not have been found in strata dating back millions of years, see forbidden archeology.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger
There are many human skeletons dating millions of years which isn't a big deal especially since they're different species of human, but if creationism were true why would we not find it billions of years, and why must it be a different species of human rather than a modern species of human =P.
garith21 1 year ago