Terrain Ignored: How the U.S. Lost the Vietnam War, Part 3 of 3

[yvesttt]

And so Rambo was born.

[mdvga1]

Bright Shining Lie, John Paul Vann (KIA, not retired), presents some pretty sad insights into the war.

Nevertheless, it wasn't about winning terrain, it was about killing the NVA/VC wherever they could be found.

Would China have entered the war had we invaded the North, leading to another Korea? Without invading the North, the flow of NVA into South VN could not be stopped, even with a million troops.

So what's your point?

[nomorenarcissism]

@mdvga1 STOP CLOSED TERRAIN INFILTRATION WITH FORTIFICATIONS--NOT troops. If we could have done this, South Vietnam and the North would have came to a peaceful unity. U.S. military incompetence that cannot control closed terrain is the cause.

[62rome]

four star clowns gave the whole war away...

[TheIraq4life]

khoto74 is right pashonts is the true tool to victory,pashonts and coreg

[ownerloll]

so how did they loose the war

[baberaider18]

this battle taught the americans to use different tactics.

[seanpdineen]

Vann and Robert Thompson knew what  to do.

The british won im malaysia, long hall low cost

[centurion180ad]

This video is a lie. THE BRIGHT SHINING LIE reveals the truth.

[runisunke]

it was never meant to be won, only to be prolonged. & generate profit

[thanmagioituyen]

The heroes Maybe dead But the Legends Forever Live On....  Viet Nam.....

[limetria]

who filmed this war footage? yeah

[ad265ad265]

I love a documentary that doesnt let the otherside of the arguement or some 'uncomfortable' facts get in the way! It is great how the documentary does a very emotive 'assassinated for getting in the way- arent the communists bad' montage showing bodies of those murdered by the Communists but doesnt mention the US supported assassination of South Vietnamese president Diem or the bodies of the civilians the US murdered in My Lai! Intresting to see a documentary that is so unashamely bais!!

[Rico8458]

what ARVN needed was 10,000 panzers and 5,000 stuka dive bombers and then invade the north and capture hanoi.

[Riproaria9]

usa loses every war.  high tech weapons mean nothing if u are not a warrior.

[khoto74]

Another US vietnam war propaganda documentary. Wan't to know why you didn't win this war. Try reading Guerilla Warfare by penguin books. To defeat the enemy is to know the enemy and be prepare for a long long long war ahead.

[nomorenarcissism]

No, this video reveals many truths. Knowing the enemy is not enough if you cannot beat the terrain so its not used by the enemy against you.

[cabraden1]

@nomorenarcissism

US used airborne cavalry to overcome terrain. Drop troops in, fight and get out.

If the US had to deal with terrain, so did the NVA and Viet Cong, so it cancels out.

This war was a political defeat for the US, not a military defeat.

[nomorenarcissism]

@cabraden1 NOT. The NVA/VC adapted to the closed terrain and exploited it. We only adapted well with our armored cavalry in M113 Gavin light tracks. Our helicopter cavalry needed light tracks to avoid fighting enemy even or at a disadvantage after insertion. Vietnam was a MILITARY defeat for America because we failed to learn how to control closed terrain...we still don't know how to do it!

[tru0008]

Oh ARVN is our Victory!!!

look like my grandfather same war in Vietnam WAR.

and other grandfather is ex-French army in 1950 now WAR IS LOST!!!

[nomorenarcissism]

If the U.S. had military expertise at stopping terrain infiltration South Vietnam would be free today.

[vietnem69200]

VIETNAM !!!!

[DKMBismarck]

This is WW2 standard Propaganda

[nomorenarcissism]

No, its not. This is why we posted it. Pay attention to the details.

[Slurrps]

Anytime you post something that has a hint of support for any military, its labeled fascist. I appreciate that you put this up.

[ihateforigners]

Why didn't we have B-52's drop bombs on the LZ to make craters to the ARVN could have cover immediatly landing upon the LZ. And where's the smoke shells and grenades and fire support from orbiting hueys and fighter bombers?

[wraithman07]

great series of videos fore sure.

[bullmoosebailey]

Charlton Heston beckons us from the grave.

Air-Mech Strike Tactics in 4GW can lead to his proposed "honourable peace for all" as well as securing the free world against Communism, even whilst potentially entangled in a diversionary battle in the GWOT.

Rest in Peace, old friend.

[biukucanoe]

these gavins have gunshields, wasn't ap bac with flying bananas (not hueys) and a communist victory?

[nomorenarcissism]

I'm thinking that this was a LATER battle over the same ground an "Ap Bac II"--as you astutely recognized this wasn't the one described in Sheehan's "A Bright Shining Lie" in 1963 where Gavins had no gunshields etc.

[ihateforigners]

How did the M113's get there? Airdroped or sling loaded?

[nomorenarcissism]

They were already there after sea transport from CONUS and drove cross-country to the battle.

[ihateforigners]

Oh, sweet.