Umm am i the only person that noticed that the talon is fwd? look at the difference is size between the front and rear tires he clearly has slicks on the front wheels.. and for the people bitching about the roll i hope you fucks know that a fwd dsm is faster than awd from a roll theres less weight by a couple hundred pounds and less lost hp to all 4 tires
every vid i see on youtube people talk shit about ricers who cars what they drive its for u to like it its for the owner to like i own a 1997 gtp so im no ones side all i have to say is grow up u have ur car u like and they have there car they like who cares who is fast or not u can take them on the quarter but can u take them on a track didnt think so but i will soon own a 1992 plymouth laser
thats funny "give the camaro 25psi" give the DSM another 4 cylinders. why do people always say "if" that V-8 had a turbo, its twice the f*ckin engine!
@2129Bill Lmao dumbass its actually the opposite its easier for ls1 of a roll the dsm would have raped it harder in a dig its AWD and u can spool your turbo on a dead stop before you launch it u fucking doofus look shit up.
@2129Bill LMAO what the hell??? hahhah a dsm is even faster if you go from a dig if its awd? if they went from a dig you would have said lets go from a roll.. your a fucking idiot my friend
@2129Bill oh and btw just becasue your moving doesnt mean the turbo is spooling you tool it doesnt matter if your driving at 5k rpms the turbo still has to spool the turbo would spool just as fast from a dig if he had anti lag as if they were at a roll it wouldnt make a difference
more videos of substantially modded imports racing stock or mild at best modded muscle cars...Even IF the camaro has nitrous alot of things can go wrong with that as far as bottle pressure and release AND whose to say its not a little 50 shot....that DSM weighs 1,500 lbs less and is pushing 25PSI, if you want it to hold 25psi your guna have to do some engine work, pump 25 psi through that LS1 it will go to outter space
@Twinturbo120 Well i exaggerated a tiiny bit on the weight i admit, the DSM weighs 2,200# the Camaro Ls1 weighs 3,400# so its 1,200 diff not 1,500 sorry but other then that what was wrong with my statement? I know the engine has strong internals since its factory turbocharged and it can hold 25psi for a bit BUT you CANNOT take a factory 1G crank it to 25psi and drive it around rolling into boost all day long forever, the internals may hold for awhile but say goodbye headgasket, my roomate did it
@Twinturbo120 Yeah i admit they are stronger than most everyday engines but still the seals and gaskets wont last long and unless you do some basic engine work after awhile 25 psi can start to lift the head off the block, which is a bummer haha
Lame, the Camaro sounds like an AT, automatically FTL, and how do we know he had nitrous? I know LS1's, and juicing them would pull way harder than that car did, I call B.S.
Anyone honestly argueing that a 4 cylinder is better than a v8 is simply 18 or less and never dyno tuned/ran a proper v8. How many 4 cylinders put out 2000hp on stock internals, Ive seen TONS of LSx motors do it and peg a dyno.
@f34rthe4banger There are a lot of (DSM 6 bolts) 4cy motors make 1000whp on stock short blocks. For being half of a V8, Id say thats quite impressive. As far as the LSX goes, Im a huge fan. If I had 2500 for a bare block then Id get one. Haven't seen one with "stock internals" putting out that much horsepower though
IN fact tell me where I can find 1?.. I've come across a few "built" LSX engines with 1500hp at most. So Im looking forward to seeing one of the 2000hp cars your talking about...... Oh and the 4cyls putting 1000whp down, They all are still street legal, So im expecting the V8 to be the same
@f34rthe4banger 2000 hp on stock internals? lmao thats freaking insane come on now man if your going to exagerate atleast make sense.. and how many cars in the world are making 2000 hp? haha maybe a couple thousand at best and the people that built them have hundreds of thousands of dollars in them so unless your not a rich mechanically inclined man its not going to happen
@8xxABHIxx8 the things you v8 fags say to feel better,now go on the honda video's and find some v8's winning so you can talk shit like the rest of you failures do when a v8 loses.
@bloodieduckies Hey little girl, calm down. It's OK if you're poor and can't afford a decent car. Go buy yourself a $10k Nissan Versa. It's an amazing deal you can afford! And it's a 4 cyl! Wow, win win situation.
@8xxABHIxx8 Research the weights. The camaro is a little over 3600lbs and add a 1000lbs to your 2200lbs for the eclipse. . . So the camaro is only 400lbs more. Heavier, yes but not by much, 25lbs.... What size turbo?, What size shot of nitrous? My bet is 150 shot, which prob puts the camaro at 460hp now. Probably very close in numbers, but getting the numbers down to the ground is where it counts.... A lot of factors, not just psi and weight of the eclipse
look everybody if you people with v8s feel like its yn fair to race a 2800lbs dsm thats a factory turbo car with mods then why race it?I'm from alabama and i began owning mustangs and mopars but i have owned imports also and here in bama imports lose to v8s and v8s lose to imports all the time and so enjoy racing dont hate embrace.we all have the same hobby.
stock ls1 vs boosted and worked 4g63 but could only pull 1 car length, now put a turbo and forged internals in the ls1 all of you poor dsm fans would be crying
@cbeck611 ok Hater but remember inline4 up with a V8! what more DO YOU NEED TO WIN! just give it up. Dont give us... well i need forged internals and this and that other part. Dont hate on the ram power of THE 4G63!
@leosantoserin yea a inline 4 with a turbo and internal work done, im not hating on dsm motors im one of those rare people that love every car and does research on all cars. honda makes the best most effecient motor and its a 4 cylinder it is better than ford chevy and dodge but i still love the ls1 and the new 5.0 i dont take sides at all i try to state the facts and i know what the 4g63 is capable of with the cost of a brand new ls1 motor you could have a 600hp+ 4g63
@cbeck611 Agreed. Can the v-8 make a lot of power? yes, efficiently? no. Whats impressive is that half the cylinders can make as much power- now I'm not saying that one is better than the other, one is just more impressive. But we are talking internal combustion gasoline engines, totally efficiency isn't what we are going for is it? haha
@mustang517 Yes efficiently. Consider that most V8's will make at low and mid rpm the same hp that most 4's can only make at the very top of the rpm range (or at full boost). Peak hp may be higher, and hp/liter higher, but how "efficient" is that 4 cylinder at 6-7k rpm and full boost? Not very. HP per Liter means nothing.
@10072018 a v8 will make significantly more power at any rpm range than a 4 banger....v8s make most torque at the low to mid rpm range as well so there absolutely no competition unless you start adding power adders
@mustang517 Well yeah you do want the engine to be as efficient as it can. A efficient motor will get a proper burn and therefore produce more power. That doesn't necessarily mean fuel efficiency though. Although at wot no engine is going to be fuel efficient lol
@wsimpson86 more volumetric efficiency, those engines that can create higher induction manifold pressures @ above ambient - will have efficiencies greater than 100%. But an inline four is less thermally efficient than the V8 because it has to overcome more friction to get the cylinders to move, creating more heat losing energy. Regardless of the type of engine, to make more power more fuel needs to be burned.
I just love to see how little 4 bangers give such a hard time to amazing V8 monsters like this Camaro. I'm more of a muscle car guy, but it never ceases to amaze me how wonderful some 4 cylinders are!
@mustang517 not true have never lost to said 4 banger or anyother 4 banger because i roll with 415 stroker ls3 power type in 91 battlered channel or 91 z28 850 hp and ive personally been in many races against these types watching themm blow up aginst me and other real muscle cars
@RIEKSONE I do know that, and I would've agreed with you if this race was from a dig, but it was from a roll, so being AWD doesn't help much in here this time, unless the Maro swerved all over the road due to tires spinning because of lots of torque making it do so (which wouldn't surprise me) but it never happened. Don't get me wrong, I'm no expert in racing, but I do know a few things about it, and my point wasn't to praise on imports, just to acknowledge that some of 'em are quite amazing.
@riddick20079 build the hell out of what? 1k can get you going alot faster then a v8 can you put 1k in v8 what you get? why yall haters bring up turbo in the equation? thats how the engine was built to run sad to see dumb people say ooooooo take turbo out and cant do shit well guess what buddy as much as i hate hondas theres plenty out there that can take v8s non turbo.so take the sand out of your vagina
@riddick20079 A little money goes a long way when it comes to awd dsms. When one is built "out the ass" many v8s cant come close stock or modded. Power is worthless if you cant put it down. BTW you can't do it without v8 in your camaro or mustang. Heck can't even do it with most v8s.
@stonermcmoreweed heres how i look at it. yea sum turbo 4cyls are fast but if the v8 had the same mods and same size turbo it would be much faster. no matter what u do to the 4cyl the v8 will always make more power with the same mods.
@Cisco121490 how so? a 61mm turbo cost the same for a honda as it does for a chevy. sum parts are a lil cheaper but for the most part v8 parts are not much more then a 4cyl. and just for the record i do like 4and 6cyls im not a guuy that thinks if its not a v8 its not shit.
@BLACKLACDTS Its all about cost and power to weight ratio...For 10 grand i can have a guaranteed 11 second honda and that includes the cost of the car with full interior and a clean paint job (and suspension)...And it would be a daily driver...Thats hard to do with 99 percent of american cars
@Kushsmoka420 maybe $10k if your buyin one already built or using all used shit! for $10K i can build alot of fast shit. you can build a 10 sec fox mustang for $10k or a easy 11sec ls1 car or a 1st gen awd dsm.its all what you want to build. i like everything really but just bust balls sumtimes for fun.:) i like fast hondas but sumtimes hate there owners! theres a kid here with a 700whp civic coupe on big slicks thats always scared to run! he wont run a cammed ls3 vette or radials!
@BLACKLACDTS I've spent under $9 on my current car and I run 9's. Oh yea, and it's my daily. I started from a bare shell. No interior, suspension or anything. It's all about buying stuff when it's cheap/on sale or a really good deal. That and doing the work on your own will save you a shit load. But you don't need $10k to make a fox body or ls1 run 10's-11's. I ran low 10's on some very simple mods, gears and tires in my fox. Problem with the f bodies if they are so expensive from the start
@BLACKLACDTS My 92 eg hatch. lsvtec, built bottom end and head, 6262 turbo, 24.5" tires on e85. I just ran 9's in it for the first time a few nights ago. This is my daily btw. My race honda has a sleeved 2L witha 6765 turbo and it has a 8.5 cert cage. My daily only has a 6 point that I welded up and it's only legal for 10.5. So now I can only make one pass per trip or I get kicked. Going to redo the cage over the winter but it's ok til then. I might just keep it the way it is.
@BLACKLACDTS Honestly I'd rahter buy an older LT1 and put a little more money into it. I've only owned 1 lt1 and 2 ls1's and I just can't seem to find one that I'd actually want to drive for less than about $6-7k. Yea you can find some for cheaper that will run but personally I've just grown out of the stage of driving around in a pos. But then again I drive a stripped out honda as my daily lol. One of my dailies any way lol.
@rb26dett32 i am 28 and i couldnt build a honda for racing. its just me it sumthing for the younger guys imo. for the same amount of money you could have a nasty ass fox stang. i do like lt1s but they are limited sevierly. they have been out since 93 and the fastest lt1 car is only in the high 8s. the ls1 is far superior. a stock ls1 fbody runs faster stock then a full bolt on lt1 fbody.
@BLACKLACDTS For the price of an ls1 f body you can have a h/c geared lt1 with some sticky tires. And If I haven't mentioned it I've owned more mustangs/camaros than hondas. Well actually now it might be even but I've owned them all. 2 dsms too but that didn't go too well lol.
@rb26dett32 yea i owned a lil bit of everything to but no hondas. i really like dsms as they do mainly dominate the streets. i like all rides if done correctly. there is a 10.0 awd 1g talon here that is siiicccckkkk on the street.
@rb26dett32 i guess your talkin about the civic runnin 9s for $9K? i have to be honest and say i dont believe you built the car from the ground up for that amount. and the thing with hondas is the hook decent at the track but not on the street. theres a local civic that runs about the same times as you but has claimed to traped 158mph before and he got his ass handed to him by a 10.60 133mph car on the street! i like fast hondas but 4cyl import for the street would be a awd dsm for me.
@BLACKLACDTS Yea, that's my daily. My fast honda runs low 9's but I have nearly $20k in that thing. Mainly because every single thing is brand name and has new parts. The daily on the other hand cost very little. Just gotta buy parts at the right time and from the right people. If you go brand new brand name parts you'll be in the $15+k range for a honda. I kept all my receipts and I'm still under $9k. Original goal was to be under 10k. But I still need a few small things in the interior
@rb26dett32 why would you want to own 2 fast hondas? just curious? i have 2 totally differnt rides. i have a trailblazer ss awd that has a cai,stall and exhaust and runs low 13s @ 5200lbs on stock 20s rippin 1.8 60fts and a 93 fox stang with a few bolt ons... ;)
@BLACKLACDTS I own 8 cars right now and 2 bikes. I spend waaayyy too much money on them. But I buy and sell cars all the time. And if I can build a car for cheap I'll turn around and sell it right away. The way my daily came to be was I took my motor out of my race car for a benson sleeved motor and I had a few random honda parts lying around so i just pieced it together and shazaam it's fast. Wasn't intended to be that way though.
@rb26dett32 thats awsome. i wouldnt mind to have a turbo k20 crx but it would have to have the awd swap. a turbo civic would make the work commute a fun time.
@BLACKLACDTS That's what I find funny. I hate crx's. I would never own or drive one. That and del sols. Here is an awd one /watch?v=e4Y-wdvCJT0&feature=related It makes 40 less whp than my civic but it runs 1.5 seconds slower and traps 35mph slower. But it is true that it'd be nasty on the street. But for me, because of work I can't do much on the street. If I get caught there goes my entire career. But I went with dsms for the exact reasons you mentioned. They are plain nasty on the street
@rb26dett32 i have seen that before. awd does slow it up at the track but makes it nasty on the street. i dont do alot of street racing for the same reason you stated but i will get out there once in a while. i actually have a race in the works with a kid i beat already in my tbss. its a 94 civic coupe with a turbo b16. i beat that car then he put that setup in a 95 hatch and did a few upgrades and wants a re run so im goin to do it soon.
@BLACKLACDTS I have a black 88 fox with a 347 h/c/i with 4.10's full interior with ac and ps. 2000 3L swapped mercury cougar (other daily) the race car, the daily race car, 2000 ws6 i/h/e with springs besides that it's completely stock. 03' cobra pulley, exhaust and upgrade, 2000 civic other daily, 2000 crv other daily, and a 82 silverado on 6.2 diesel with 55k original miles. And then a few slow bikes. So I have a nice plethora of cars. And that's just what I currently have. I've owned 40+
@rb26dett32 your worse them me! i currently have a 06 trailblazer ss awd few bolt ons and murdered out,93 fox stang few bolt ons,2003 ford zx2 daily,86 toyota 4x4 pickup with a built 22re and a 2005 cadillac dts other daily. im kinda focused on my toyota 4x4 pickup rite now. im tryin to do front and rear lockers, lift and all other off road needs.i have had a mostly fox stangs. i had a 11 second stock bottom end 91 gt anda mint 93 tiatnium coupe with black interior all stock except exhaust.
@BLACKLACDTS Also if your friend is is running 9.9 or 10 flat and he is trapping 160mph that means one of two things. He is either running radials or street tires at the track, he doesn't have an lsd or the most reasonable one, he can't drive. You can watch some of my videos and see that I don't hook well but it doesn't stop me from getting to 150mph decently fast. I put up a video of me doing a 1-4 on a shitty road and I spin all the way but I still accelerate. Way harder than a 10.6 car would
@rb26dett32 his car is a gray mid 90s civic coupe that was built by a big name shop a few years ago and he bought it for $12k. he has slips that show 9.80 @158mph with a 1.5 60ft and that was on a big slick before he owned it the car was in all kinds of import magizines. i did see it put down 587whp but that was only at lik 6700rpm and he said it should pull to almost 10k! its a nasty mofo.
@BLACKLACDTS That sounds about right. But what dyno was he on making those numbers? If it's a dyna pack was it big or small boxes? Because that alone could be 50-100whp depending on dyno and environment. Unless he bought the car locally. I just find it really hard to believe that a 160mph honda could lose to a 120mph car from a roll. I know with my race car I made 680whp on dyna packs. I went to a mustang dyno at another shop and made 701 on a mustang dyno. But the beater made 55xwhp.
@rb26dett32 i dont know much about the car or hondas in genral. it was a local dyno shootout and he won the 4cyl class by a mile and almost took top honors but lost to a procharged 540 cube big block makin 10 more hp then him.lol no he didnt lose to a 120mph car from a roll. he raced from a dig against a 08 ls3 c6 vette with every bolt on big cam and 150 shot that has been 10.60 @ 133mph. thats what he lost to and hasnt raced since. he was pulllin super hard on him up top but not in time.
@BLACKLACDTS Well that makes perfect sense. That's what happens to me all the time. But then I ask for another race from a roll. I personally drop it to maybe half boost during the first race. Since all I'm going to do is wheel spin there really is no point. And since they see how slow I am (on half boost) then usually agree. Another reason I just remember is people would stop racing me because they recognize my car. That's a reason I change cars so much. But keep the power train.
@BLACKLACDTS Yea it was always a pain in the ass setting up boost by gear. Hondata bbg helps out a ton though. It's nice being able to just mash it in any gear on the street and have minimal slippage. But there's nothing you can do about racing from a dig on the street. Gotta do at least a 2nd gear roll.
@BLACKLACDTS Does it have a cuffed trans with straight gears? If not I almost guarantee that it used to to run that time. Sounds like they had some beefy axles with a nasty race clutch and bullet proof trans to get those 60' and runs those times. And then, since they were selling it must have swapped out the drivetrain for something more streetable. Just a guess though. I'd have to see the car to tell one way or another.
@BLACKLACDTS I just remembered another thing. My buddies ws6 runs 10.5 @ 125 in his ls1 with h/c/i on radials. And I run away from him. My dd civic weighs under 2,200 with me in it and makes a decent amount of power. My only problem is traction. But when I do have traction. Meaning 80mph roll I will run away from most anything with equal power. From a dig on the street I'd get torn up though. But from a roll your friend should not lose. He is either lying or bad at driving or both.
@rb26dett32 us baltimore boys dont roll race! lol if we did roll race he would be king. there is sum nasty vettes around here like 2 9 second z06s one a c6 one a c5 both trap over 140mph. nobody will give him a roll race tho.he tried to get a run with a "72"mm turbo(no way it was bigger then my head) supra but guy wouldnt do it.
@BLACKLACDTS oh, well that explains it. What I do is give them the first race. Usually a dig since everyone is rwd. I then get my race. Which is 80+ usually. We then go somewhere in the middle and I win 2/3. On the street I can't do shit from a dig. Once I get into 3rd though it's usually over one way or another.
@rb26dett32 oh yea nobody calls him out from a roll they always want dig races. like i said the top contenders around here are mainly a c6 z06 that goes 10.0 @143 on 20' drag radials, a 10.0 1st gen dsm awd, a 9.60 2000 stang gt theres a few nasty hondas but they always want cars and the jump and all that shit and nobody wants to give that up to a car with 8 second mph on a big money race.
@BLACKLACDTS I'd suggest changing shells. I've done it 3 times this summer. But that's if they don't recognize you. Any of you guys going to import face off? If my car is put back together I'll be there with my buddy Jon moore in his nasty ass neon. That is one car I could never brind myself to drive. No matter how fast lol.
@rb26dett32 lol where you from? and if you type in jerry herbert you will see his z06 run 10.0 he is a heavy hitter here in the street race game and hes like 23.lol
@BLACKLACDTS looks nice. Only on radials? I'd like to race him in my daily. It'd be a good race. Any idea what his 1/8 mile time and et was? I bet he'd be ahead of me til the last 100 feet. But I'd also get a roll race on the way back from the track >.<
@rb26dett32 not sure those times. i do know that he just did a few more things to the car. it has traped 142-144mph on the regular on drag radials before the new mods. he would race no prob.
@BLACKLACDTS is there anything going on in between somewhere? I have no clue. Usually stay in state because of my e85 setup. But if there was a decent event or meet I'd probably go with either the daily or I'd trailer in the race car. And it only runs on c16 lol. So unless they have some at the track I'd need to bring some for my 3 gallon fuel tank lol. That white h/c c6 sounds ridiculous btw.
@stonermcmoreweed god made turbos so silly kids with 4banger can keep up with man cars like v8! how many grown men drive a 4 banger. your really gonna impress the high school girls with that.try and pick up a woman with that 4banger.I know shell hop rite in the camaro. any grown woman will.endless you like highschool girls.
You obviously aren't a car guy if your main goal is to "pick up chicks". It's all about speed, performance, and respect for all different types of cars.
lmao ok... DSM's and Fbodies are both CRAZY.. i had a z28 with boltons that would dominate 2010 chargers and srt8s in its sleep.. i sold it and got a dsm which does the exact same. switching from dbody to dsm or vice versa is very common for people who like speed and bang for buck potential. both are amazing..
You guys are arguing about two of the most potent platforms imo. Both are great "bang for your buck" cars. Ive owned both, currently own a built dsm though. Will have both again soon i hope. ls1 slicks,gear, exhaust and you got 12's easy. problem with dsm's is most people buy alot of unnecessary shit because someone online told them too and they end up with 5k invested and 13 sec passes. hell stock turbo dsm's have gone 10's
@nallen100 exactly. I love both F bodys and DSMs. Both have mountains of potential, mature drag racers know this. DSMs get a bad rep because they are very cheap(still a third to half the price of the LS1s) so kids are much more likely to buy one(usually a 2g) and attempt to mod it very poorly with little to no actual knowledge of what they're doing. Probably only a third of all modified turbo DSMs ever came close to their full potential.
hey i have friends with both and the camaros are fast and so are the dsms but i like both and the dsm won and camaro lost so yall need to quit getting butt hurt and stop being sore lossers ever one looses.
Hey, All DSM Haters can watch this over and over and get their LSx asses handed to them, personally I HAD a DSM and I loved it (not stock) and I LOVE LSx's I am gonna put one in my Blazer... but dont hate on a DSM you douches... 4g3's ARE the shit stop hatin' cuz you konw they ARE reliable and they do make power.
@v10viper04 hell yeah thats what I'm tryin to tell em. LSX powered cars are the shit and they dependable, which is not the case for a DSM. Them DSM's can be fast with mony and work but I'll take a F-body over most cars and deffinitly every DSM anyday.
@coheed0000 What are you going to do to a DSM for a grand thats going to make it run low 12's? A LS1 F-body is capible of high if not mid 12's stock with nothing but slicks and free mods and gets about 17 city and 25 highway.
@steelcityracer1320 What a dumbass that kid coheed0000 is is, Would love to see a DSM hit low 12's for 1k hahaha My friend has over 3-4k in his DSM and it runs low 13's.... LS1's run that stock. haha
@dankebuddha Dude ur talkin about some race car that dont do anything but run down the track and is built with a unlimited budget and needs all that boost to make that power and run that fast. Theres LS1 Camaro's in the 9's with stock shortbloocks. Stick with the lego's? wow ur gay, But I'll still check out that video and see what it is even though DSM's are junk
@kageryu311 Fuck you. I didnt say there was any problem with the DSM beatin the Camaro, theres plenty of vids ware Camaros eat DSM's, you must be real insecure about it lol. Every1 knows them DSM's and there 4G63 engines are garbage, I'll never buy 1 again. V8's make more power more reliably then i4's cuz they have displacement. LS1's are very very reliable, you can run the shit out of them and they love it. Besides who really wants a mix breed Chrysabishi anyway?
@steelcityracer1320 watch?v=CWoAxk96vBU 1400 hp out of 2.0 liters too fast for pro stocks on 86 lbs of boos with plans on boosting it up over 100 lbs you don't have a dam clue what your talking about kid stick with the Lego's
@stonermcmoreweed not to argue that dsm cars are fast but from a techincal aspect a larger engine can make more power. dont get me wrong you can make any car fast but more the most power in a straight line a v8 would be a better choice. cheaper to make a 4. but if you dropped 35k in each a v8 would kill it
My bad more like when you said "the only difference is you can drive the v8 like its stolen for 120k miles with no problems" Stating that you cant do a 4g63 like that...Thats why i said where you get that lie from.
bulsey 60-1 turbo? Thats what im running def. a sleeper to all those who think its just another 4cyl turbo car that aint got shit (cough;;;;most hondas) lol.
Umm am i the only person that noticed that the talon is fwd? look at the difference is size between the front and rear tires he clearly has slicks on the front wheels.. and for the people bitching about the roll i hope you fucks know that a fwd dsm is faster than awd from a roll theres less weight by a couple hundred pounds and less lost hp to all 4 tires
BudBudSounds 15 minutes ago
@jkonn7 Stupidity... Its what makes people think a DSM even remotely looks like a car worth driving. ;)
XBewbiesX 21 hours ago
dude your talon is beast mode nice fucking work
4G63DSMPOWER 1 week ago
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every vid i see on youtube people talk shit about ricers who cars what they drive its for u to like it its for the owner to like i own a 1997 gtp so im no ones side all i have to say is grow up u have ur car u like and they have there car they like who cares who is fast or not u can take them on the quarter but can u take them on a track didnt think so but i will soon own a 1992 plymouth laser
urgetnswine89 2 weeks ago
thats funny "give the camaro 25psi" give the DSM another 4 cylinders. why do people always say "if" that V-8 had a turbo, its twice the f*ckin engine!
96sinister 3 weeks ago 3
Haha awd would have left that ls1 from a dig. Plus dsm is domestic those years. They were in a partner ship wit chrysler, eagle and Mitsubishi.
M074503 4 weeks ago
The ls1 would of walked him from a dig. Import guys only like to race from a roll. They want that turbo spooling.
2129Bill 1 month ago
@2129Bill Lmao dumbass its actually the opposite its easier for ls1 of a roll the dsm would have raped it harder in a dig its AWD and u can spool your turbo on a dead stop before you launch it u fucking doofus look shit up.
IROBOTSURVIVES 2 weeks ago
@2129Bill LMAO what the hell??? hahhah a dsm is even faster if you go from a dig if its awd? if they went from a dig you would have said lets go from a roll.. your a fucking idiot my friend
BudBudSounds 22 minutes ago
@2129Bill oh and btw just becasue your moving doesnt mean the turbo is spooling you tool it doesnt matter if your driving at 5k rpms the turbo still has to spool the turbo would spool just as fast from a dig if he had anti lag as if they were at a roll it wouldnt make a difference
BudBudSounds 21 minutes ago
more videos of substantially modded imports racing stock or mild at best modded muscle cars...Even IF the camaro has nitrous alot of things can go wrong with that as far as bottle pressure and release AND whose to say its not a little 50 shot....that DSM weighs 1,500 lbs less and is pushing 25PSI, if you want it to hold 25psi your guna have to do some engine work, pump 25 psi through that LS1 it will go to outter space
Chadb89 1 month ago
@Chadb89 Clearly, you know nothing about DSM's.
Twinturbo120 3 weeks ago
@Twinturbo120 Well i exaggerated a tiiny bit on the weight i admit, the DSM weighs 2,200# the Camaro Ls1 weighs 3,400# so its 1,200 diff not 1,500 sorry but other then that what was wrong with my statement? I know the engine has strong internals since its factory turbocharged and it can hold 25psi for a bit BUT you CANNOT take a factory 1G crank it to 25psi and drive it around rolling into boost all day long forever, the internals may hold for awhile but say goodbye headgasket, my roomate did it
Chadb89 3 weeks ago
@Chadb89 Depends on what turbo your boosting to 25psi. Either way, like you said the internals are fairly strong.
Twinturbo120 3 weeks ago
@Twinturbo120 Yeah i admit they are stronger than most everyday engines but still the seals and gaskets wont last long and unless you do some basic engine work after awhile 25 psi can start to lift the head off the block, which is a bummer haha
Chadb89 2 weeks ago
Lame, the Camaro sounds like an AT, automatically FTL, and how do we know he had nitrous? I know LS1's, and juicing them would pull way harder than that car did, I call B.S.
Ghosst182 1 month ago
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hellonismo 1 month ago
@mcfoolskully he said the stock short block not the internals man..
Evolover21 2 months ago
Anyone honestly argueing that a 4 cylinder is better than a v8 is simply 18 or less and never dyno tuned/ran a proper v8. How many 4 cylinders put out 2000hp on stock internals, Ive seen TONS of LSx motors do it and peg a dyno.
f34rthe4banger 2 months ago
@f34rthe4banger There are a lot of (DSM 6 bolts) 4cy motors make 1000whp on stock short blocks. For being half of a V8, Id say thats quite impressive. As far as the LSX goes, Im a huge fan. If I had 2500 for a bare block then Id get one. Haven't seen one with "stock internals" putting out that much horsepower though
crankwalker95 2 months ago
IN fact tell me where I can find 1?.. I've come across a few "built" LSX engines with 1500hp at most. So Im looking forward to seeing one of the 2000hp cars your talking about...... Oh and the 4cyls putting 1000whp down, They all are still street legal, So im expecting the V8 to be the same
crankwalker95 2 months ago
@f34rthe4banger unless you offer some proof, i know it cant handle that on stock internals, my uncle builds them for a living
mcfoolskully 2 months ago
@f34rthe4banger 2000 hp on stock internals? lmao thats freaking insane come on now man if your going to exagerate atleast make sense.. and how many cars in the world are making 2000 hp? haha maybe a couple thousand at best and the people that built them have hundreds of thousands of dollars in them so unless your not a rich mechanically inclined man its not going to happen
BudBudSounds 18 minutes ago
dammit i miss my talon
24fretsplease 2 months ago
put money into either car and it'll stomp whatever you want it to.
mmmmhonda 2 months ago
Turbo lag... Its what makes v8's think they are gaining ground.
jkonn7 2 months ago 12
25 lbs of boost and you got him by one car length lol. Wow, amazing.
8xxABHIxx8 2 months ago
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bloodieduckies 2 months ago
@8xxABHIxx8 the things you v8 fags say to feel better,now go on the honda video's and find some v8's winning so you can talk shit like the rest of you failures do when a v8 loses.
bloodieduckies 2 months ago
@bloodieduckies Hey little girl, calm down. It's OK if you're poor and can't afford a decent car. Go buy yourself a $10k Nissan Versa. It's an amazing deal you can afford! And it's a 4 cyl! Wow, win win situation.
8xxABHIxx8 2 months ago
@8xxABHIxx8 guess you didn't see that the LS1 is spraying nitrous? lol
crankwalker95 2 months ago
@crankwalker95 I did but look at everything else.
2200 lbs and 25 psi vs 3700 lbs and a shot of nitrous.
8xxABHIxx8 2 months ago
@8xxABHIxx8 Research the weights. The camaro is a little over 3600lbs and add a 1000lbs to your 2200lbs for the eclipse. . . So the camaro is only 400lbs more. Heavier, yes but not by much, 25lbs.... What size turbo?, What size shot of nitrous? My bet is 150 shot, which prob puts the camaro at 460hp now. Probably very close in numbers, but getting the numbers down to the ground is where it counts.... A lot of factors, not just psi and weight of the eclipse
crankwalker95 2 months ago
@crankwalker95 Completely AGREE. You talk sense my man. The DSM could have a worked tranny and what about rear gears..etc.
kelson12345 2 months ago
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@crankwalker95 Completely AGREE. You talk sense my man. The DSM could have a worked tranny and what about rear gears..etc.
kelson12345 2 months ago
look everybody if you people with v8s feel like its yn fair to race a 2800lbs dsm thats a factory turbo car with mods then why race it?I'm from alabama and i began owning mustangs and mopars but i have owned imports also and here in bama imports lose to v8s and v8s lose to imports all the time and so enjoy racing dont hate embrace.we all have the same hobby.
jzpwrd240 2 months ago
What year is the talon?
riley3890 2 months ago
i didnt justin beiber had a talon wtf???? lol
boosted1436 3 months ago
stock ls1 vs boosted and worked 4g63 but could only pull 1 car length, now put a turbo and forged internals in the ls1 all of you poor dsm fans would be crying
cbeck611 3 months ago
@cbeck611 ok Hater but remember inline4 up with a V8! what more DO YOU NEED TO WIN! just give it up. Dont give us... well i need forged internals and this and that other part. Dont hate on the ram power of THE 4G63!
leosantoserin 3 months ago
@leosantoserin yea a inline 4 with a turbo and internal work done, im not hating on dsm motors im one of those rare people that love every car and does research on all cars. honda makes the best most effecient motor and its a 4 cylinder it is better than ford chevy and dodge but i still love the ls1 and the new 5.0 i dont take sides at all i try to state the facts and i know what the 4g63 is capable of with the cost of a brand new ls1 motor you could have a 600hp+ 4g63
cbeck611 3 months ago
@cbeck611 Agreed. Can the v-8 make a lot of power? yes, efficiently? no. Whats impressive is that half the cylinders can make as much power- now I'm not saying that one is better than the other, one is just more impressive. But we are talking internal combustion gasoline engines, totally efficiency isn't what we are going for is it? haha
mustang517 3 months ago
@mustang517 Yes efficiently. Consider that most V8's will make at low and mid rpm the same hp that most 4's can only make at the very top of the rpm range (or at full boost). Peak hp may be higher, and hp/liter higher, but how "efficient" is that 4 cylinder at 6-7k rpm and full boost? Not very. HP per Liter means nothing.
10072018 3 months ago
@10072018 a v8 will make significantly more power at any rpm range than a 4 banger....v8s make most torque at the low to mid rpm range as well so there absolutely no competition unless you start adding power adders
spartangodzz28 3 months ago
@mustang517 Well yeah you do want the engine to be as efficient as it can. A efficient motor will get a proper burn and therefore produce more power. That doesn't necessarily mean fuel efficiency though. Although at wot no engine is going to be fuel efficient lol
wsimpson86 3 months ago
@wsimpson86 more volumetric efficiency, those engines that can create higher induction manifold pressures @ above ambient - will have efficiencies greater than 100%. But an inline four is less thermally efficient than the V8 because it has to overcome more friction to get the cylinders to move, creating more heat losing energy. Regardless of the type of engine, to make more power more fuel needs to be burned.
mustang517 3 months ago
@cbeck611 Well I would hope so! lol
wsimpson86 3 months ago
Kick ass talon
Broshy81 3 months ago
I just love to see how little 4 bangers give such a hard time to amazing V8 monsters like this Camaro. I'm more of a muscle car guy, but it never ceases to amaze me how wonderful some 4 cylinders are!
95stangdude 4 months ago
@95stangdude and by this time next week that 4 banger wii lhave blown up!!! and that is the facts
91battlered 3 months ago
@91battlered no thats just your shitty observation with what shitty experience you have had with said 4 banger.
mustang517 3 months ago
@mustang517 not true have never lost to said 4 banger or anyother 4 banger because i roll with 415 stroker ls3 power type in 91 battlered channel or 91 z28 850 hp and ive personally been in many races against these types watching themm blow up aginst me and other real muscle cars
91battlered 3 months ago
@91battlered cool car bro, But I doubt every four cylinder you have raced spontaneously blows just because you are racing them.
mustang517 3 months ago
@95stangdude
yes but its also the delivery system
albeit the dsm is all wheel drive while camaro is only rwd
RIEKSONE 3 months ago
@RIEKSONE I do know that, and I would've agreed with you if this race was from a dig, but it was from a roll, so being AWD doesn't help much in here this time, unless the Maro swerved all over the road due to tires spinning because of lots of torque making it do so (which wouldn't surprise me) but it never happened. Don't get me wrong, I'm no expert in racing, but I do know a few things about it, and my point wasn't to praise on imports, just to acknowledge that some of 'em are quite amazing.
95stangdude 3 months ago
The kid looks like he's talking on the phone. :D
vfIskullangel 4 months ago
@riddick20079 build the hell out of what? 1k can get you going alot faster then a v8 can you put 1k in v8 what you get? why yall haters bring up turbo in the equation? thats how the engine was built to run sad to see dumb people say ooooooo take turbo out and cant do shit well guess what buddy as much as i hate hondas theres plenty out there that can take v8s non turbo.so take the sand out of your vagina
maicon9 4 months ago
@riddick20079 nah, dsmlink or somethin to tune w/ , a boost controller, n a fel pump… low 12's.. under 500$
LeeOnTheTrack 4 months ago
@riddick20079 A little money goes a long way when it comes to awd dsms. When one is built "out the ass" many v8s cant come close stock or modded. Power is worthless if you cant put it down. BTW you can't do it without v8 in your camaro or mustang. Heck can't even do it with most v8s.
357truckin 4 months ago
such a sweet race, i just wish the quality was a little better.
Vathane 4 months ago
haha awesome video, the guys racing face cracks me up !
jtamxgsx 5 months ago
"I ran outta Nitrous mang,,,"
streetroyalty1 5 months ago
Stop racing big turbo cars with your shitbox V8
alexjalaff 5 months ago in playlist More videos from 82v8s10
And at the end we also exhibit the not as rare as you may think, v8 river fly by. But all jokes aside both of the car are faster than mine
kittymeowbarkify 6 months ago
I LOVE the silence at the end... Sound of disappointment for the V8.
chillined 6 months ago 15
2200#? Probably more like 3000-3200#
usaidemon 8 months ago
@stonermcmoreweed heres how i look at it. yea sum turbo 4cyls are fast but if the v8 had the same mods and same size turbo it would be much faster. no matter what u do to the 4cyl the v8 will always make more power with the same mods.
BLACKLACDTS 8 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS your smart.......
mophreakous 8 months ago
@mophreakous i already know this.
BLACKLACDTS 8 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS But in order for the v8 to have the same mods it will cost twice as much...
Cisco121490 8 months ago
@Cisco121490 how so? a 61mm turbo cost the same for a honda as it does for a chevy. sum parts are a lil cheaper but for the most part v8 parts are not much more then a 4cyl. and just for the record i do like 4and 6cyls im not a guuy that thinks if its not a v8 its not shit.
BLACKLACDTS 8 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Its all about cost and power to weight ratio...For 10 grand i can have a guaranteed 11 second honda and that includes the cost of the car with full interior and a clean paint job (and suspension)...And it would be a daily driver...Thats hard to do with 99 percent of american cars
Kushsmoka420 8 months ago
@Kushsmoka420 maybe $10k if your buyin one already built or using all used shit! for $10K i can build alot of fast shit. you can build a 10 sec fox mustang for $10k or a easy 11sec ls1 car or a 1st gen awd dsm.its all what you want to build. i like everything really but just bust balls sumtimes for fun.:) i like fast hondas but sumtimes hate there owners! theres a kid here with a 700whp civic coupe on big slicks thats always scared to run! he wont run a cammed ls3 vette or radials!
BLACKLACDTS 8 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS I've spent under $9 on my current car and I run 9's. Oh yea, and it's my daily. I started from a bare shell. No interior, suspension or anything. It's all about buying stuff when it's cheap/on sale or a really good deal. That and doing the work on your own will save you a shit load. But you don't need $10k to make a fox body or ls1 run 10's-11's. I ran low 10's on some very simple mods, gears and tires in my fox. Problem with the f bodies if they are so expensive from the start
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 this is true but a fbody can be had for $4k so thats not to bad. what do you have that runs 9s for $9k?
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS My 92 eg hatch. lsvtec, built bottom end and head, 6262 turbo, 24.5" tires on e85. I just ran 9's in it for the first time a few nights ago. This is my daily btw. My race honda has a sleeved 2L witha 6765 turbo and it has a 8.5 cert cage. My daily only has a 6 point that I welded up and it's only legal for 10.5. So now I can only make one pass per trip or I get kicked. Going to redo the cage over the winter but it's ok til then. I might just keep it the way it is.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Honestly I'd rahter buy an older LT1 and put a little more money into it. I've only owned 1 lt1 and 2 ls1's and I just can't seem to find one that I'd actually want to drive for less than about $6-7k. Yea you can find some for cheaper that will run but personally I've just grown out of the stage of driving around in a pos. But then again I drive a stripped out honda as my daily lol. One of my dailies any way lol.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 i am 28 and i couldnt build a honda for racing. its just me it sumthing for the younger guys imo. for the same amount of money you could have a nasty ass fox stang. i do like lt1s but they are limited sevierly. they have been out since 93 and the fastest lt1 car is only in the high 8s. the ls1 is far superior. a stock ls1 fbody runs faster stock then a full bolt on lt1 fbody.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS For the price of an ls1 f body you can have a h/c geared lt1 with some sticky tires. And If I haven't mentioned it I've owned more mustangs/camaros than hondas. Well actually now it might be even but I've owned them all. 2 dsms too but that didn't go too well lol.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 yea i owned a lil bit of everything to but no hondas. i really like dsms as they do mainly dominate the streets. i like all rides if done correctly. there is a 10.0 awd 1g talon here that is siiicccckkkk on the street.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 i guess your talkin about the civic runnin 9s for $9K? i have to be honest and say i dont believe you built the car from the ground up for that amount. and the thing with hondas is the hook decent at the track but not on the street. theres a local civic that runs about the same times as you but has claimed to traped 158mph before and he got his ass handed to him by a 10.60 133mph car on the street! i like fast hondas but 4cyl import for the street would be a awd dsm for me.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Yea, that's my daily. My fast honda runs low 9's but I have nearly $20k in that thing. Mainly because every single thing is brand name and has new parts. The daily on the other hand cost very little. Just gotta buy parts at the right time and from the right people. If you go brand new brand name parts you'll be in the $15+k range for a honda. I kept all my receipts and I'm still under $9k. Original goal was to be under 10k. But I still need a few small things in the interior
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 why would you want to own 2 fast hondas? just curious? i have 2 totally differnt rides. i have a trailblazer ss awd that has a cai,stall and exhaust and runs low 13s @ 5200lbs on stock 20s rippin 1.8 60fts and a 93 fox stang with a few bolt ons... ;)
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS I own 8 cars right now and 2 bikes. I spend waaayyy too much money on them. But I buy and sell cars all the time. And if I can build a car for cheap I'll turn around and sell it right away. The way my daily came to be was I took my motor out of my race car for a benson sleeved motor and I had a few random honda parts lying around so i just pieced it together and shazaam it's fast. Wasn't intended to be that way though.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 thats awsome. i wouldnt mind to have a turbo k20 crx but it would have to have the awd swap. a turbo civic would make the work commute a fun time.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS That's what I find funny. I hate crx's. I would never own or drive one. That and del sols. Here is an awd one /watch?v=e4Y-wdvCJT0&feature=related It makes 40 less whp than my civic but it runs 1.5 seconds slower and traps 35mph slower. But it is true that it'd be nasty on the street. But for me, because of work I can't do much on the street. If I get caught there goes my entire career. But I went with dsms for the exact reasons you mentioned. They are plain nasty on the street
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 i have seen that before. awd does slow it up at the track but makes it nasty on the street. i dont do alot of street racing for the same reason you stated but i will get out there once in a while. i actually have a race in the works with a kid i beat already in my tbss. its a 94 civic coupe with a turbo b16. i beat that car then he put that setup in a 95 hatch and did a few upgrades and wants a re run so im goin to do it soon.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS I have a black 88 fox with a 347 h/c/i with 4.10's full interior with ac and ps. 2000 3L swapped mercury cougar (other daily) the race car, the daily race car, 2000 ws6 i/h/e with springs besides that it's completely stock. 03' cobra pulley, exhaust and upgrade, 2000 civic other daily, 2000 crv other daily, and a 82 silverado on 6.2 diesel with 55k original miles. And then a few slow bikes. So I have a nice plethora of cars. And that's just what I currently have. I've owned 40+
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 your worse them me! i currently have a 06 trailblazer ss awd few bolt ons and murdered out,93 fox stang few bolt ons,2003 ford zx2 daily,86 toyota 4x4 pickup with a built 22re and a 2005 cadillac dts other daily. im kinda focused on my toyota 4x4 pickup rite now. im tryin to do front and rear lockers, lift and all other off road needs.i have had a mostly fox stangs. i had a 11 second stock bottom end 91 gt anda mint 93 tiatnium coupe with black interior all stock except exhaust.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Also if your friend is is running 9.9 or 10 flat and he is trapping 160mph that means one of two things. He is either running radials or street tires at the track, he doesn't have an lsd or the most reasonable one, he can't drive. You can watch some of my videos and see that I don't hook well but it doesn't stop me from getting to 150mph decently fast. I put up a video of me doing a 1-4 on a shitty road and I spin all the way but I still accelerate. Way harder than a 10.6 car would
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 his car is a gray mid 90s civic coupe that was built by a big name shop a few years ago and he bought it for $12k. he has slips that show 9.80 @158mph with a 1.5 60ft and that was on a big slick before he owned it the car was in all kinds of import magizines. i did see it put down 587whp but that was only at lik 6700rpm and he said it should pull to almost 10k! its a nasty mofo.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS That sounds about right. But what dyno was he on making those numbers? If it's a dyna pack was it big or small boxes? Because that alone could be 50-100whp depending on dyno and environment. Unless he bought the car locally. I just find it really hard to believe that a 160mph honda could lose to a 120mph car from a roll. I know with my race car I made 680whp on dyna packs. I went to a mustang dyno at another shop and made 701 on a mustang dyno. But the beater made 55xwhp.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 i dont know much about the car or hondas in genral. it was a local dyno shootout and he won the 4cyl class by a mile and almost took top honors but lost to a procharged 540 cube big block makin 10 more hp then him.lol no he didnt lose to a 120mph car from a roll. he raced from a dig against a 08 ls3 c6 vette with every bolt on big cam and 150 shot that has been 10.60 @ 133mph. thats what he lost to and hasnt raced since. he was pulllin super hard on him up top but not in time.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Well that makes perfect sense. That's what happens to me all the time. But then I ask for another race from a roll. I personally drop it to maybe half boost during the first race. Since all I'm going to do is wheel spin there really is no point. And since they see how slow I am (on half boost) then usually agree. Another reason I just remember is people would stop racing me because they recognize my car. That's a reason I change cars so much. But keep the power train.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 yea the kid here with the civic does digs on 8lbs of boost but is setup for over 20+psi
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Yea it was always a pain in the ass setting up boost by gear. Hondata bbg helps out a ton though. It's nice being able to just mash it in any gear on the street and have minimal slippage. But there's nothing you can do about racing from a dig on the street. Gotta do at least a 2nd gear roll.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 AWD SWAP!!!! lol
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Does it have a cuffed trans with straight gears? If not I almost guarantee that it used to to run that time. Sounds like they had some beefy axles with a nasty race clutch and bullet proof trans to get those 60' and runs those times. And then, since they were selling it must have swapped out the drivetrain for something more streetable. Just a guess though. I'd have to see the car to tell one way or another.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS I just remembered another thing. My buddies ws6 runs 10.5 @ 125 in his ls1 with h/c/i on radials. And I run away from him. My dd civic weighs under 2,200 with me in it and makes a decent amount of power. My only problem is traction. But when I do have traction. Meaning 80mph roll I will run away from most anything with equal power. From a dig on the street I'd get torn up though. But from a roll your friend should not lose. He is either lying or bad at driving or both.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 us baltimore boys dont roll race! lol if we did roll race he would be king. there is sum nasty vettes around here like 2 9 second z06s one a c6 one a c5 both trap over 140mph. nobody will give him a roll race tho.he tried to get a run with a "72"mm turbo(no way it was bigger then my head) supra but guy wouldnt do it.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS oh, well that explains it. What I do is give them the first race. Usually a dig since everyone is rwd. I then get my race. Which is 80+ usually. We then go somewhere in the middle and I win 2/3. On the street I can't do shit from a dig. Once I get into 3rd though it's usually over one way or another.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 oh yea nobody calls him out from a roll they always want dig races. like i said the top contenders around here are mainly a c6 z06 that goes 10.0 @143 on 20' drag radials, a 10.0 1st gen dsm awd, a 9.60 2000 stang gt theres a few nasty hondas but they always want cars and the jump and all that shit and nobody wants to give that up to a car with 8 second mph on a big money race.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS I'd suggest changing shells. I've done it 3 times this summer. But that's if they don't recognize you. Any of you guys going to import face off? If my car is put back together I'll be there with my buddy Jon moore in his nasty ass neon. That is one car I could never brind myself to drive. No matter how fast lol.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 lol where you from? and if you type in jerry herbert you will see his z06 run 10.0 he is a heavy hitter here in the street race game and hes like 23.lol
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS looks nice. Only on radials? I'd like to race him in my daily. It'd be a good race. Any idea what his 1/8 mile time and et was? I bet he'd be ahead of me til the last 100 feet. But I'd also get a roll race on the way back from the track >.<
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 not sure those times. i do know that he just did a few more things to the car. it has traped 142-144mph on the regular on drag radials before the new mods. he would race no prob.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Columbus Ohio btw. My track is national trails and norwalk.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 oh yea your not to far from us. we are in baltimore maryland.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS is there anything going on in between somewhere? I have no clue. Usually stay in state because of my e85 setup. But if there was a decent event or meet I'd probably go with either the daily or I'd trailer in the race car. And it only runs on c16 lol. So unless they have some at the track I'd need to bring some for my 3 gallon fuel tank lol. That white h/c c6 sounds ridiculous btw.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 not that i know of. but yea there is a few nasty ls vettes here and a really nasty all motor ls7 fbody camaro .
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS you have no idea what you are talking about
itscody317 6 months ago
@itscody317 i forgot more then you will ever know.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@BLACKLACDTS Why say such a stupid comment? Your not 16-18 so quit acting like it.
rb26dett32 6 months ago
@rb26dett32 not a stupid comment a true comment that stands for 98% of the people on here.
BLACKLACDTS 6 months ago
@stonermcmoreweed god made turbos so silly kids with 4banger can keep up with man cars like v8! how many grown men drive a 4 banger. your really gonna impress the high school girls with that.try and pick up a woman with that 4banger.I know shell hop rite in the camaro. any grown woman will.endless you like highschool girls.
AMXBOY73 9 months ago
@AMXBOY73 This is the most pathetic comment haha.
You obviously aren't a car guy if your main goal is to "pick up chicks". It's all about speed, performance, and respect for all different types of cars.
tec41 9 months ago
@AMXBOY73 god also created v8's and nitrous for people who dont know how to put mods on an engine. way to hit your midlife crisis buddy.
Allele17 9 months ago
@AMXBOY73 if you know how to talk to girls you could be driving a geo metro and pick up highschool girls just sayingg
FourGSixty3 9 months ago
@FourGSixty3 lol
AMXBOY73 8 months ago
@stonermcmoreweed I saw a license plate frame on a yolked out Grand National that read "Turbo lag So he thinks he is winning for a second"
Viking445 9 months ago
Diamond Star Motors'
theFBIdude 9 months ago
lmao ok... DSM's and Fbodies are both CRAZY.. i had a z28 with boltons that would dominate 2010 chargers and srt8s in its sleep.. i sold it and got a dsm which does the exact same. switching from dbody to dsm or vice versa is very common for people who like speed and bang for buck potential. both are amazing..
stevenjazrawi 9 months ago 7
@stevenjazrawi So very very very true..... Check out my vids :)
shawnmgarcia 9 months ago
@stevenjazrawi So completely true. I owned a '95 GS-T and traded it for a '94 Z-28. Now I'm looking for a new 1g or 2g dsm for a project lol :P
BigNick419andholding 9 months ago
@stevenjazrawi Exactly! i went from my first car (89 firebird formula) to a Talon (97 Tsi) ive loved both of the cars so far!
gfudude 4 months ago
v8 got shit on!!!
Jlizel 9 months ago
what a fuckin sleeper!
FMXUnleashed 10 months ago
its ok the ls1 is still doing work while that dsm has gone through 15 motors just to beat a ls1 by 1 car
YoDooDSup 10 months ago
@YoDooDSup So, by your own admission, the LS1 just got beat by a piece of shit. DSM baby.
kingdomboost 10 months ago
@kingdomboost So, by your own admission, the DSM beat a stock ls1. BIG WIN!!!! haha FAIIIIL
YoDooDSup 10 months ago
@YoDooDSup Ignorance is such bliss lol
Bbdrew 10 months ago
@YoDooDSup Youre a moron. 4Gs will make power all day long. Especially at his power level
blueoctaneevoX 10 months ago
@YoDooDSup really..? 15 motors? Some one is OBVIOUSLY hating... thumbs down to you fool!
shawnmgarcia 9 months ago
You guys are arguing about two of the most potent platforms imo. Both are great "bang for your buck" cars. Ive owned both, currently own a built dsm though. Will have both again soon i hope. ls1 slicks,gear, exhaust and you got 12's easy. problem with dsm's is most people buy alot of unnecessary shit because someone online told them too and they end up with 5k invested and 13 sec passes. hell stock turbo dsm's have gone 10's
nallen100 10 months ago
@nallen100 exactly. I love both F bodys and DSMs. Both have mountains of potential, mature drag racers know this. DSMs get a bad rep because they are very cheap(still a third to half the price of the LS1s) so kids are much more likely to buy one(usually a 2g) and attempt to mod it very poorly with little to no actual knowledge of what they're doing. Probably only a third of all modified turbo DSMs ever came close to their full potential.
Deathryuu 10 months ago
lol kids like, "watsup watsup wannaparty?"
11akguy 10 months ago
@tpumpiscmibicv that is if you can see through the oil cloud those pos leave behind
dm86pf 11 months ago
hey i have friends with both and the camaros are fast and so are the dsms but i like both and the dsm won and camaro lost so yall need to quit getting butt hurt and stop being sore lossers ever one looses.
jzpwrd240 11 months ago
Hey, All DSM Haters can watch this over and over and get their LSx asses handed to them, personally I HAD a DSM and I loved it (not stock) and I LOVE LSx's I am gonna put one in my Blazer... but dont hate on a DSM you douches... 4g3's ARE the shit stop hatin' cuz you konw they ARE reliable and they do make power.
hobbes110 11 months ago
@v10viper04 hell yeah thats what I'm tryin to tell em. LSX powered cars are the shit and they dependable, which is not the case for a DSM. Them DSM's can be fast with mony and work but I'll take a F-body over most cars and deffinitly every DSM anyday.
steelcityracer1320 11 months ago
@coheed0000 What are you going to do to a DSM for a grand thats going to make it run low 12's? A LS1 F-body is capible of high if not mid 12's stock with nothing but slicks and free mods and gets about 17 city and 25 highway.
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 What a dumbass that kid coheed0000 is is, Would love to see a DSM hit low 12's for 1k hahaha My friend has over 3-4k in his DSM and it runs low 13's.... LS1's run that stock. haha
v10viper04 11 months ago
@dankebuddha Dude ur talkin about some race car that dont do anything but run down the track and is built with a unlimited budget and needs all that boost to make that power and run that fast. Theres LS1 Camaro's in the 9's with stock shortbloocks. Stick with the lego's? wow ur gay, But I'll still check out that video and see what it is even though DSM's are junk
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 1000 bucks + dsm = low 12's 1000 Bucks + fbody = 13 flat and shittier gas milage.
coheed0000 1 year ago
Hehe a dms is just a polished turd. I wouldn't care if it could smoke anything, I'm not driving one.
nelaHnaVeiddE 1 year ago
@kageryu311 Fuck you. I didnt say there was any problem with the DSM beatin the Camaro, theres plenty of vids ware Camaros eat DSM's, you must be real insecure about it lol. Every1 knows them DSM's and there 4G63 engines are garbage, I'll never buy 1 again. V8's make more power more reliably then i4's cuz they have displacement. LS1's are very very reliable, you can run the shit out of them and they love it. Besides who really wants a mix breed Chrysabishi anyway?
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 A mix breed Chrysabishi thats funny shit
Rone170 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 watch?v=CWoAxk96vBU 1400 hp out of 2.0 liters too fast for pro stocks on 86 lbs of boos with plans on boosting it up over 100 lbs you don't have a dam clue what your talking about kid stick with the Lego's
dankebuddha 1 year ago
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I guarantee you will get ZERO poon driving a DSM
kingssuck06 1 year ago
yup, everyone stop talking shit about the 4 banger, because the 4 banger just took a v8 with nitrous.
brothertonk 1 year ago
crying about the dsm turbo when that camaro is running nitrous, WOW.
12345tsicody 1 year ago
V8 can make more power reliably then a small 4
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@steelcityracer1320 And you're crying because a 4 banger DSM beat the Camaro. LOL what a bitch.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@stonermcmoreweed god created turbo lag so 4bangers would have a excuse why they lost to a v8!
BLACKLACDTS 1 year ago
@stonermcmoreweed not to argue that dsm cars are fast but from a techincal aspect a larger engine can make more power. dont get me wrong you can make any car fast but more the most power in a straight line a v8 would be a better choice. cheaper to make a 4. but if you dropped 35k in each a v8 would kill it
TheM0rbidangel 1 year ago
slow ass loaf of bread, american cars suck, even the europeans know that
FullBloodedHmoob 1 year ago
@FullBloodedHmoob yes we know that xD
shogunjosex 1 year ago
ha his bumper was falling off in the end. nice dsm tho
dudemancool2000 1 year ago
if 2wd gives you enough traction, you need more power :)
knickly 1 year ago
My bad more like when you said "the only difference is you can drive the v8 like its stolen for 120k miles with no problems" Stating that you cant do a 4g63 like that...Thats why i said where you get that lie from.
Kenuwine24 1 year ago
if your dad bought an ECLIPSE gsx he most likely bought it for all season bcause its awd and left it stock.
IoBeoBundy 1 year ago
Edit:
btw gsx is a bike and gst is the turbo eclipse dumass and still only a 4 bolt motor in 97.
IoBeoBundy 1 year ago
no way that dsm was 2200lbs with a passenger lol
yonkersracing 1 year ago
bulsey 60-1 turbo? Thats what im running def. a sleeper to all those who think its just another 4cyl turbo car that aint got shit (cough;;;;most hondas) lol.
IoBeoBundy 1 year ago
DSM #1
kilates5 1 year ago
hell yeahhhh layin the smack down all day v8s are dead weight dude
tletech69 1 year ago
@tletech69 the only difference is you can drive the v8 like its stolen for 120k miles with no problems...the dsm will explode in 10
leschampagnes1 1 year ago