Rowan Williams and Sharia Law - (BBC News 24)

[a88642]

yah yah all what you guys is want want more we give a hand you want a leg 2.

[sorpotal]

CONCLUSION:

Does all the above facts sound like they are from Islam’s holy book? How can a book which shows Islam’s prophet Mo to be worse than a common criminal in every respect, be from a God who says Muhammad and Himself (Allah) are equal? [Quran 4:80 Obeying Muhammad is obeying Allah.]

Surely Christians have corrupted THE QURAN and Muslims are in denial about it.

[madeye22]

IF THEY WANT SHARIA THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO THEIR BACKWARDS DESERT LANDS!!!!

I'll tell you why not have sharia by asking a simple question.What is the punishment in Islam for apostasy? (answer :death)

[CRUSADERPIGGYBOY]

I WANT ALL THESE "BUGGERS" OUT OF EUROPE !

[writersblock26]

Xenophobes? Islam is not a race, Mohammed. You should know that better than anyone.

[singer1924]

All of this is taqqiya, i.e. lies made mandatory by the quran. You say 'if any party diasgrees with decision of muslim scholars they will be able to carry on through English legal system', how will a woman in a mohameddan family get the freedom, knowledge and financial means to get out of home, find a lawyer and get to court?

[trigga1uk]

how exactly is this intergration, this is another example of turning britain into some segregated epcot centre of the world. I would never go to pakistan and refuse to intergrate to their culture, then bad mouth people who say "if you dont like it, go back to britain" -ITS NO DIFFERENT!

[ExtremeBogom]

I believe Muslims, should have access to their community needs, like courts, councilling, guidance etc for their needs as Muslims.

I think that is a human right.

Noone wants the whole country to become Sharia, so don't panic; it won't.

[banjosolid]

british people no matter what faith or religion must follow british rules

oh no says Mohammed Shafiq lets have some religious laws passed in this country

well all i have to say is when will it end will gays be beheaded will jews be murdered, keep these damned religiouns out of our country

[eBritishIdentity]

Sharia is not welcome in the United Kingdom.

If you want Sharia, go to the Islamic World.

And yes, you are asking the British to make Britain Islamic, as you had slowly done to Lebanon, Pakistan, Egypt, Iran and many other nations.

Respect our laws, respect out culture, respect what Britain is, and that's Christian, and not Islamic.

[eBritishIdentity]

British Law - Not Sharia Law

If Muslims want Sharia, go back to your Islamic World. And yes, you are asking that, you are asking Sharia to take over British law.

When Muslims become a majority, or if they do, and if the current figures are correct, they will. Will You change Britain, change it's laws and turn it into an Islamic movement, as you had done with Lebanon, Egypt, Palestine, Pakistan and many other nations?

[mentalman85]

People naturally will be scared of this in the UK because of the words "Sharia Law".

I personally don't believe in religious groups having their religious laws recognised and allowed. I think all of these systems should go, and people should practice freedom of religion within the laws of the land.

However, as long as other groups are allowed to have these systems (eg orthodox jews) then there's no reason why muslim communities shouldn't be allowed them too, it's only fair.

[TheMikeran]

The only solution to ISLAM is JESUS CHRIST ...

[1ngjoxsh]

that replaces one lie with another

[byteresistor]

"Dangerous to exclude completely"

Why? Or else they'll riot and make threats? There's plenty of countries with shariah law already, move there.

[martinkun167]

I think history has shown that religion can't be trusted with power. Any form of power given to religious institutions will not the end of their plight; they will always ask for more.

The way Shafiq is describing Sharia may sound good and unproblematic, but it's obviously not where the muslim communities will stop; there will always be those corrupted few among the ranks of muslim communities who will use the judiciary power they already have in Sharia courts for personal gains.

[LOCKMANakaAC]

religion or no religion...man will always strive for power...so I rather have someone that believes and prays to GOD rule than someone that doesn't!

[Jaibajrang29]

The word Sharia simply means Religious, period.

[nakhatoo]

YOu guys Dont understand Sharia at all. there is no islamic on the earth right now which has 100% of Sharia Law. This is only about Muslim , it will not apply to any NON- muslim so wts wrong with u people.

[robtime]

That is quite wrong as Sharia applies to any realm ruled by Islam and Non - Muslims in particular Jews and Christians. Jews and Christians are Dhimmi under Islam and treated as second class citizens. This is as described in the Qur'an and Hadith. Furthermore Non-Muslims in Islamic countries are treated badly. To say Sharia does not apply to Non-Muslims is a simple lie.

[1ngjoxsh]

the problem is that in a civilised nation like the UK law is equal for everyone...I am not religious does that mean I can start my own courts to decide the law for atheists- I think not. It is ridiculous to think it is acceptable for there to be two sets of laws in one country

[AV8R]

Those that do not learn from history, are destined to repeat it.

Look at how the democratic Christian nation of Turkey has been assimilated into the Islamic collective. Its the same old process here again.

Wake up Britain, fight this harder than you did at the Battle of Britain against the Nazis. The Germans never made landfall, but those wanting to take over your country are already there undermining your governement, laws, churches, and history.

[1ngjoxsh]

Read a book. Turkey was never Christian. Anatolia was ruled by the E. Roman Empire which was a Christain non-democratic civilisation. That empire was conquered by the Turks who then formed the Ottoman Empire taking the capital Constantinople in the late 15th century,

[dannyboy15]

@1ngjoxsh would that be constantionople as in the emperor constantine? the famous Christian..? lol.

[blueghostohio]

they all can go back too hell from where they come from ,too hell with them, if britin gives this too them they are stupied pigs just like islam. you give them one thing then they wil take the whole country, fools in england

[FaithandReasons]

If these Muslims can't practice their faith in the UK.....then why did they move there in the 1st place?

Why didn't they just remain in their previous land where Shariah law existed & Islam reigned???

It looks like they just want to Islamify the UK, instead of assimilating into British culture.

This is stupid. It makes me sick.

I'm glad I live in a small town where ppl mind their business.

[MissPickletoes]

Where do you live?? I wanna live there too!! Freedom to mind one's own business..is fast disappearing...sad to say

[MSH786]

@FaithandReasons There is no country or land that really fully follows the Shariah or Islamic Law, just as there is no country or land that fully follows Christian or Jewish Laws. But in every Western Democratic country, people of the Christian or Jewish faiths are allowed to consult with their clergy about personal matters like marriage problems and get counseling or get a divorce, so why can't Muslims, especially in countries that boast Freedom of Religion?

[MSH786]

@FaithandReasons Plus, Muslims still have to abide by the criminal laws set by the country that they live in.

[NatashaSF]

These muslims are having a laugh, right?

[snabbkurs]

Why is UK discussing sharia law!! Integration means no Sharia law otherwise we don´t have integration at all. If they want sharia law like Iran and Saudi Arabia then they should leave UK.

[ukcolson]

Mr Shafiq,

You say your're a company director within the

foundation. Is the foundation a business or

charity ? how is it funded ?

[darknight7002]

This is not a multi faith society its a English Christian country and you and your faith are simply unwelcome GUESTS.

[oroge]

point of correction this is an ahtieist country most church goers are black immigrants(pentecoastal church) and most catholics are either polish or south american and many of these people are becoming muslim everyday thats why most pubs are originally churches because you guys worship beer and football not God.

[zanos]

BNP scum, your unwelcome 2 you scallys !

[latecretaceous]

Does anybody honestly think that it would stop at just having Sharia Law for "family matters"? Don't be naive. The moment Shara Law was allowed for family matters these advocates would continue to agitate. They would agitate for Sharia to apply to criminal law. Once that was established, they would want it to apply to everyone. Do you honestly think that Sharia Law advocates would ever be satisfied? Giving them an inch would be regarded as weakness. Want Sharia? Go to Iran.

[oroge]

even in muslim countries sharia does not apply to everyone its optional.

[zid00001]

"Multi faith society" as if we want that - OVERTHROW OUR WEAK GOVERNMENT - NOW

[zetigrey]

Most Islamists do not seem to understand that if they are murderous, it suits every non Muslim to be equally murderous. That makes it worse for Islam and Muslims. They have to learn to bend the Quran towards non violence. If they can't do that they have to rationalize that their Prophet showed them a path that was OK in his time and that it is up to them to move forward now and say its not ok today. Live and learn to live!

[oroge]

live and let live? that is what we do if you are honest (and educated) you will find christian countries have been far more destructive the vast majority of muslims are peaceful people im a muslim and i would never harm anyone and the same applies to all muslims i iknow but when one of us does wrong you bigots blame us all. if i cant pinth wrongs of the kkk on you then why the hell do i get asked questions about alqaeda am i the only one who smells double standards? practice what you preach.

[stronzo5785]

Sorry...I don't want to become Muslim. I wasn't born Muslim, I have never been drawn to the god of the Quran, nor do I agree with its premises. My mind will remain free to test all things and hold fast to that which is true and correct, IAW 1Thess. 5:21.

[logicwithin]

enough islamic propagada. If pain, suffering, killing, murder, lack of education, ignorance, and belief of the mythical inspire you, then, yes, be my guest and continue on the evil path which is islam and religion...(by the way...islam is a plagerism of judaism...well done mohammed..in modern times mohammed would be in jail for outright theft and plagerism of what ome whould see, a great idea....

[kumoja]

Any system whose goal it is to eliminate democracy should be made unlawful, and that includes sharia law.

[kumoja]

Our heroes pursue phantoms as the world transforms. Is sharia, polygamy, routine first-cousin marriage in the interests of Canada? Oh, dear, even to raise the subject is to tiptoe into all kinds of uncomfortable terrain for the multicultural mindset.

[kumoja]

... It's easier just to look the other way, or go Nazi-hunting in the men's room. Nobody wants to be unpleasant, or judgmental, do they? What was it they said in the Cold War? Better dead than red. We're not like that anymore. Better screwed than rude. -- Mark Steyn.

[Theworldiswonderful]

If you Muslims want rights to deal with your squabbles in a Shari'a Law fashion - GO TO A SHARI'A RULED COUNTRY.

Your teachings have no part in our societies. Nor will they ever.

If you're not happy here, leave. Only a fool wouldn't.

[bigscolari]

Thankfully Sharia Law will soon dominate British Whites.

Maybe not 5 or 10 years down the line, but definitely within a few decades.

If you look at the birth rates of us Asian Muslims and then the black people in Britain, it is simply huge.

I know a black muslim brother who has 9 kids.

Then if you look at the fact that the white population gets smaller every year due to low birth rates and then look at the fact that just one in five immigrants to britain are now white, you have it.

[seans10]

I'd like to congratulate the UK's muslims in the first step in their eventual takeover of the country. I'm curious, once the takeover is complete will you give the leftists who made your takeover possible a rebate in their dhimmi tax?

[Jacomus7]

envsh03, I fear your generalization is not quite accurate. While to a certain extent people do resist Islam due to its alien ethnic connotation, I believe it is the image of totalitarian regimes of the Middle East (particularly Saudi Arabia and Iran) and the silencing of Islamic critics being silenced by murder threats from Muslim radicals or the politically correct media tainting their reputations.

Sharia is fiercely resisted because of its totalitarian implications, not racism alone.

[ramadhanfoundation]

yes, if any party diasgrees with decision of muslim scholars they will be able to carry on through English legal system.

Many comments on here are resonable basis for debate, others have been deleted because of foul langauge, racism, advocating violence and murder etc.

if you want the comments to remain please use respect and no foul langauge

[trigga1uk]

@ramadhanfoundation how is this intergration, this is another case of the damage multiculturalism is doing to britain. and mohmmed shafiq seems to love to quote how britain is 'diverse and tolerant' quite obviously as a way of gaining more room for islam. You dont like how we do things, you go back to where you came from, its no different from me going to pakistan and wanting to start practicing my culture there, then accusing people who disagree of racism.

[alghaf]

A call not for privilege but for a separate system? Sound like legal apartheid to me.

The creeping 'ghettoisation' of the muslim community. Who would be the winners and losers in this legal ghetto? I doubt it would be the sisters.

Also, what happens if one of the parties in a sharia court does not accept or ignores the ruling? Would there be recourse through the civil courts?

[shawie1800]

Small personal matters?? Give me a break.

From these so-called small personal matters such as marriage, land rights etc., it's going to get to a stage whereby a devout muslim man is going to go to a "scholar" to get approval to chop-off the head of his daughter because she's decided to convert to another religion.

[poorinreign]

Every multi-faith nation should uphold only ONE kind of law, and that is super-faith law. Law that is above faith, and in no way faith-related. That's the only logical form of justice that can be fairly upheld against every other religion.

That's exactly why faith and state are a bad mix.

[frankiebhoy3]

Listen to this wee arsehole, getting all excited because he thinks his religion and ways of life are finally starting to change Britain. As long as there are people like me living here, there is no way these people will get it all there own way.

[JedSmile]

So how will muslims have their heads cut-off under sharia law? Using a sword or guillotine? And what about stoning muslims to death? Who will do this?

And will muslims be allowed to marry 6 year old girls and have sex with them?

And will muslim women able to prostitute themselves through temporary marriages?

Under Sharia law Muslim women can be parared naked through the streets, its ok their modesty will not be compromised they will still be able to wear a hijab.

[mennofest]

What about introducing laws of The Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster?

[jamaicanification]

@mennofest typical atheist. Thinking his great cosmic atomic butt buddies have naturally selected him for his alleged intelletual prowess over others. Someone here thinks they're a special ape. Would ya like a banana with that?Now, to the actual topic at hand, im not sure that a two tear sharia law frame work would work. I mean i agree with respecting islamic laws and traditions, but this seems to me that it will just complicate the judicial system a whole lot

[mark9165]

i think it's fairly obvious what the feeling of the country is.

if the majority of the country doesn't want it, you don't get it, thats democracy.

all the cries of xenophobia and the old favourite islamophobia won't work this time, any politician who likes his job won't back this non starter.

[thehighcabal]

mark9165

fairly obvious what the feeling of the country is.

if the majority of the country doesn't want it, you don't get it, thats democracy

I Agree

BUT also The Majority PPL of your CUNTry DO NOT want to GO to WAR in IRAQ

YET England went to Invade IRAQ

If this is Your Democracy...Then FUCK IT

[sleepe555]

rowan williams

needs to sort it out. and stick to preaching bible truths.and keep out of politics?

not only this it is part off the constitution

which clearly state that he most defend the faifth the christian faifth and no other he as over stepped the mark. and may i had it is the muslims that are insisting on a first muslim state inn britian and have been for the last 30yrs fact.we are a tolarent people these people are treding on soft ground the brits will hit back and hard.

1939???

[jamesmagmar126]

Essentially what Muslims want is to take total control. This is just the first step of a slippery slope and now Britain is becoming the victim of it's values of free speech and belief.

[AgentFlashBastard]

This is a Protestant nation.

You may have made the Welsh Archbishop of the COE "Submit" but you won't make the people, as the reaction would suggest.

I am not right wing, I am more mid-left. I am not a racist either.

Most of us consider this to be an invasion with EU support.

You think we are stupid?

[cuttersnimrod]

rohan williams needs to stick to bible truths and preach this to the church. like the issue of gays. and the ardanation off female clergy? which are banned inn the christian faith aypocoits.also willams should keep is fat guylord nose out off politics.. and muslims have been calling for the first muslim state inn england for 30 yrs separate from english law fact .and iff willaiams was a true christian he shuld that the muslim faith is a false faifth which doas not except christ as the son of god

[cuttersnimrod]

look to germany ?? there is going to be trouble inn england very soon . we have had enough and we will not tolerate any longer you are mesing with the wrong nation ???and muslims are calling for the first muslim state. inn bradford and have been for 30 yrs fact. seperate to english law also: it is the duty of the church and monarchy to defend they faith christianity not only this rohan williams has no legal or moral right to interfear inn politics ? if he were a man he would step down?

[cuttersnimrod]

the muslims have been calling for the firt muslim state inn bradford england for the last 30 years and that muslim law over ride english law and that all whites bee baned from this state inn enland what about a enlish state iin the muslim countrys not a chance thi is going to lead to civel war very sohortly we are to acomadoting to muslims inn england and i shall be voteing for the BNP not becouse iam a racist but i and many others lime have add enough and look what happerend inn germany

[RowUllik]

Does this mean we can now cut off muslim's heads for misbehaving?

[dibbuck]

The hairy Bishop is right just look at the upside of Sharia law guys:

1) Homos get bashed again so we dont have constant mincers all over the tv all the time yapping on about anal foreplay and dressing up

2) Feminists will have to stop pretending to be good at mens work and getting legs up even though they are illogical and emotional retards

3) Jews get angry and outraged which is usually amusing

4) Beards are cool

5) Public stonings could be entertaining

[awwaless]

hahaha somthing is wrong with you... but its good to see some1 seeing the lighter side of this whole issue

[Likomotiv]

Actually the young fellow is not to bright

[bangfarang]

Are we to understand that Archbishop Rowan Williams wants to begin now, within 64 years of D-Day, to surrender to the beheading, caning, and deadly stoning that are the very essence of Islam's sharī'a law? Why, may I ask, did so many brave men climb Normandy's cliffs to confront the "best of people" of THEIR time? If they had been told then that their civilization would so soon be turned over to a civilization-sized death cult, they would rightfully have deserted before the Channel crossing.

[mcgiver02]

Though im totally ignorant of Sharia,

Im quite sure as Sharia gives unlimited power of Muslim men over their wives, I can see why British Muslim men much prefer Sharia over the British law, which treat both sexes equally.

For the sake of those unfortunate women married to British Muslims and suffering daily and continous maltreatment, please do not let Dr Williams have his way

[bangfarang]

Are we to understand that Archbishop Rowan Williams wants to begin now, within 64 years of D-Day, to surrender to the beheading, caning, and deadly stoning that are the very essence of Islam's sharī'a law? Why, may I ask, did so many brave men climb Normandy's cliffs to confront the "best of people" of THEIR time? If they had been told then that their civilization would so soon be turned over to a civilization-sized death cult, they would rightfully have deserted before the Channel crossing.

[CYBERianBoi]

Oh Britain, I hope that it will never happen to you. Please Europe save yourself. Force this old man Williams to retire, he can't be a head of your church if he is so willing to please Muslims. He should care about Christians and not about Muslims. They (or their parents) have come to Britain and all the problems that they face should (and must) be solved by themselves. If they don't want to integrate and be British they are free to emigrate. But if they don't want... again it's their problems.

[NeverWillSubmit]

Dr. Williams, please tell us about your next step in fulfilling the muslim agenda; maybe tie an explosives belt around your waist and blow yourself in St. Paul's Cathedral next Sunday ?

Thank you for a prompt answer Sir.

[BiblicalMax]

Islam is a satanic construct conceived in Hell to decieve. Mohammed is Satan's Rent boy pimped onto the earth to spread the desease of Islam.

They denigh our Lord Jesus Christ, they reject Yahweh's wonderful gift to us The Christ.

Allah is not the God of the bible...

Resist islam, resist the liberals infiltrating Christ's Church. Reject ecumenicalism, reject unrepentent sodomites as church leaders. Williams remember Cramner and our other brave martyrs!

[ironnaz]

I am a British Muslim and I am married to my British Muslim wife under Shariah law only. My family have all married under the Shariah system. We have broken no laws in doing so and have no desire to have a pointless civil ceremony. I am happy with my Islamic marriage and if some people dont like it, tough. I couldn't care less. I have broken no laws, its my life and I will live it as I choose. I chose a Shariah marriage. Get over it and get on with your lives. Muslim and proud.

[RageAgainstDogma]

Comment pending approval ! Now, that is what I call Freedom of Speech !

[Eisaniger]

I completely agree with the video in the respect that sharia laws governing finance are already operating within the country as a form of arbitration. By recognising this we are in effect allowing sharia law to act as an arbitration body within the UK it is happening already all the acrchbishop was asking for is that it gets a legal status.

Sharia law would only play an arbitray role and would give both parties a decision which is not legally (british law) obiding. ACAS is a classic example

[wolfyjoe]

If you choose to live in Britain you should abide by British law. No exceptions should be made. Some aspects of Sharia law are uncivilised and brutal. Implementing Sharia Law in the UK would drive a wedge between the Muslim community and the rest of the country. I hope that our government will not give in to this pressure for special treatment, it's a joke!

[newminkey]

What does Mohammad Shafiq of Ramadhan Foundation think about these aspects of Sharia law: beheadings, demonisation of homosexuals, stoning to death of adulterous women, forced marriage, honour killings, treating women like 2nd class citizens, and the punishment of women who have been raped?

[LeamingtonSteve]

He needs trying as a traitor

[LeamingtonSteve]

He needs trying as a traitor

[newminkey]

I wonder what ramadhanfoundation thinks about these aspects of sharia law: the stoning to death of adulterous women, the condemnation of homosexuality, beheadings, forced marriage, honour killings? Religion has no legitimate place in the modern world. When will the human race grow up and see religion for what it is - nothing but myth and superstition.

[scottyo7]

this would just be the start then they would move on to something else..what the powers that be dont realise is that this is what islam is all about...they want to take over..they are stupid though because instead of taking there time and acting like this in 30 years time when there numbers in europe are ten fold they are showing there true colours now and will swiftly be crushed before they can become a threat.

[uranus0007]

uff british people under darkness

[RoelGeurtsen]

I hate the bbc!!

[penseurlibre]

this hypocrite says "its about choice' - if he is so passionate about equality and rights for all - then let us see if his ramadan foundation petitions islamic nations of the world to recognise the same rights for their christian and jewish and other minorities - i guarantee this is not happening! we must not accept the deceipt here! merci.

[anneyre]

The first thing he says is: 'We're living in the 21-st century...'

Exactly!

There is no place in our time for a set of laws based on what a guy called Mohammed said 1400 years ago. 1400 years ago!

But I agree.

Sharia Law for all muslims! Yeyeyeye!

Initially it will only deal with small matters. Later on it will certainly go down to business and muslims will start losing their heads in public executions.

They're good at it and seem to enjoy it.

Let them have it, I say!

[mvp111MCA]

to fraction the British law to suit an ethnic or religious sub group just digs whole in a sinking ship

[Giles20]

Its time for our country to become fully secular. Get rid of the Church of England, get rid of its head (the Queen)!

[ImNoDhimmiDummy]

"Anybody involved in criminality will still be dealt with by criminals"

Freudian slip perhaps!

[proletariat1818]

hahahaha true perhaps..

[RageAgainstDogma]

No doubt !

[ubornthick]

Yes,but how true IMNO,

[ImNoDhimmiDummy]

Their own government next!!

[thissacredengland]

If the British goverment ever allows our laws and constituation to be change in favour of a different religion then it will be the beginning of the end of freedom and democracy in this country. If i lived in an islamic country i would HAVE to abide by their law and if i didn't the consiquences would be severe. One of the reason so many foreign people come to live in the UK is because we are a free and democratic country with freedom of speach, and it MUST stay that way.....whatever it takes.

[CivilizedJerk]

Muslims will peck away bit by bit at the UK way of life. Never let this happen.

[bangfarang]

Never let what happen? That pecking IS happening! Islam must be dealt with in Parliament—classified as a subversive cult or whatever it takes—and its adherents deported. The West cannot follow its rights commitment any nearer to the destruction of the West than it already has. We have a new reality: many among us want to use the rights we offer to destroy what we have, to be replaced by the beheading, caning, and deadly stoning that are the very essence of Islam's sharī'a. That is subversive!

[bangfarang]

Never let what happen? That pecking IS happening! Islam must be dealt with in Parliament—classified as a subversive cult or whatever it takes—and its adherents deported. The West cannot follow its rights commitment any nearer to the destruction of the West than it already has. We have a new reality: many among us want to use the rights we offer to destroy what we have, to be replaced by the beheading, caning, and deadly stoning that are the very essence of Islam's sharī'a. That is subversive!

[googajoob7]

there no doubt now that the archbishop should be retired . in truth this would be a very dangerous road to go down . its dangerous for those of the islamic faith to suggest it . lets not forget what happened less than one lifetime ago in germany i would not want to see the same thing happen in the uk . i ve a nasty feeling be it in 10 or 50 years history will repeat itself . :( rowan for a man of god you do the devils work very well .

[sleepe555]

remember how hitler .came to power .sadly we will be forced has a nation to vote BNP.but ifeel that we has a nation we have no other choice?then we must take the consequencesoff this and remember people you a messing with the wrong nation when we kick the hole world will no about it it is time these people were asked to leave we must globel has a nation but not to the extent of your own culture?

bring it on and imust further add take that TWATrentboy williams with you

[ultralazarus]

Dr Williams *did* say that UK law should change to incorporate Sharia. He said it clearly. We already recognise parallel Muslim courts! So why is this speaker "welcoming" his comments, and then claiming to not be calling for special treatment?

[ramadhanfoundation]

no foul language, please can we engage in a respectful debate without the usual racist comments like go back home, etc.

I'm up for intelligent debates

[soprano79]

I am going to ask a serious question. Why do you say that you want a debate and then try to equate criticism of Islam with racism? Islam is not a race, it is an ideology. As such, it (and shariah law) is every bit as open to criticism as any other religion.

Since the basis for a respectful debate has already been ruined by intentional dishonesty on your part, how do you expect a respectful debate?

[envsh03]

Most of the Muslims in the UK are of non-European stock. The most vociferous opponents of Sharia are not so much anti-Muslim (the native English are quite liberal /tolerant on issues of faith) as anti-Black. Islam is seen as the religion of the Paki & that is why it is despised.

Hence, it is correct to say that most of the criticism -particularly the more strident, shrill, or rowdy type of opposition -originates from racists.

[secretagentxxxx]

sharia law scum!!! you may take our land but you will never take our freedom FREEDOM!!!!

[mcgiver02]

you sound like William Wallace

[mcgiver02]

you sounded like William Wallace in Braveheart

[ExigeGT3]

I realize this is unlikely to happen, but please, understand this, if this where to ever happen the British indigenous population will counter react and turn in an extreme alternate direction. Think on.

Laws of unintended consequences, laws of unintended consequences...

[dibbuck]

the natives of UK will do nothing - maybe howl a bit, but lets face it the worst that will happen might be a bit of odd vandalism. Uprisings of any sort are caused by external sponsors, grass roots action doesn't exist. If the powers that be want Sharia law it will happen and fuck will stop it - it come about though wont cuz Muslims are in fact the target of all this nonsense.

[mihytre]

Utterly disgraceful comments, I urge members of the C of E to demand Dr Williams resignation forthwith!

[nz2k2]

"It's about choice". (1:30)

Yes, you choose to live in the UK, under UK law.

Or you live elsewhere. Simple choice.