Hate Speech legislation is a monstrosity which we ought to abolish. Originally it was introduced by the Jewish lobby, in order to muzzle criticism of the Holocaust rhetoric, back in 1992, or thereabouts.
The problem isn't in letting Muslims *into* our country of course, but in failing to ask what kind of Muslim they are. You should ask, are they the kind of Muslim who believes in individual liberty? Seperation of church and state? You should ask, instead of what is the source of his beliefs, what does he actually believe? It is impossible to have a consistent legal system without accepting some beliefs, some ideas, some values, and rejecting others.
When speaking of "native populations", Steyn should be careful to only include the UK and "the continent", as he put it, lest he conflate indigenous peoples of the Americas or Australia with who he's really talking about: White People. Aside from that, he makes some good points.
@eier We have a large number of ethnic groups in Britain, so your point wouldn't really apply here. In particular, our Indian and Afro-Carribean groups don't often see eye-to-eye with Muslims.
@selfvirt Yes, but the groups you mentioned aren't native to the British Isles. Muslim immigrants to Australia, for example, are not so much supplanting natives of that country (Aborigines), but the non-native white majority. I was objecting to Steyn's implication that whites are native to the West as a whole, when they're really only native to Europe.
Funny, the Dutch had the same conversation 350 years ago. We seem to have come full circle. I guess a lot of Western countries are just not worthy of their freedom. Turn them into caliphate for a while, maybe they like it.
The Left in Canada needs to get votes somewhere so sucking up to Muslims will fit the bill. More multiculture b s . I am not a conservative, I don´t belong to a political party, but McGuinty is a bold-faced liar who raised taxes when he said he wouldn´t. But the most of the Jews and the Muslims in Ontario voted for him, that I find to be comical.
in the real world, you can't just cry "hate speech" and expect that statement to shut the so called "hate speech' up. it will never work that way! the facts are the facts! where in the hell did this bullshit term "hate speech" come from anyway? I've never heard anything more FUCKING PATHETIC IN MY LIFE ! IT'S NOT AGAINST ANY LAW TO HATE ANYTHING YOU MOTHER FUCKING DUMB ASSES !!! FUCK OFF !
Canada is so weak, it will fall into the same trap as Europe and the French. We need to defend our way of life and stand up for democracy and Freedom of Speech. These attacks on our basic freedoms are already working as the media is scared of talking about the truth. When you have fear, then your country is already under attack.
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edwardlane34500,
I believe he was hiding his ethnic background and passing himself as an Anglo-Saxon "to be more credible and respectable". Mark Steyn "BORN Toronto of Jewish (father's side) and Belgian Catholic (mother's side)" He desires to spare himself the racism he freely prcatices: at stormfront about Mark & Ezra "Having seen photos of the pair and having some rough biographical information on them, I think it's permissible to have a basic aversion to them simply because they are jews."
That's a bit old to acquire an English accent. Once you're 18, whatever accent you have spoken with up until that time is what you're stuck with. The plates of your mouth form that way - so it's a bit pretentious for him to speak that way.
universalradio, interesting comment. I live near (Niagara Falls) to Canada and use the date a few girls from Canada. Over the years I have fooled many from Canada because I know Canada and its politics than most. In the end, they believe I'm an ex-patriot but they always ask about my New York accent.
Americans' perspective on our affairs is always interesting. I was told that (about the plates in your mouth) by a Dutch woman who hated her accent. She was a teacher.
Sorry that sounds ridiculous, how does your opinion of your accent affect how well you perform in the teaching proffession? If she said I hate holland and want to bring it down from the inside by corrupting the minds of children, yeah fair enough. But she didn't, she wasn't keen on her accent. Besides do you think that your own country shouldn't be criticised?
Frankly, I've always thought it was pretentious for anyone to speak with an English accent. I'll bet Brits talk like everyone else when they think Americans aren't listening. (If it's legal to say that in Canada.)
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Brits can be the most obnoxious people ever - in Canada. Rude, usually. But they can also be very pleasant. I took great pleasure in firing an English appliance repairman once - because he got pissed off at being asked to come in the back door (servants' entrance in England); and so acted like a jerk over the repair. I phoned his company and told them not to send him back again, they said he'd been difficult and wondered if it was the English thing - I said yes, and don't be nice to him.
@universalradio What on Earth are you talking about and how is your stupid little story pertinent to this video? You seem much like your average Canadian, the type that Steyn attacks the most. Weak, meek, and your head in the politically-correct sand.
@universalradio I have many clues about Canada and Canadians. So does Steyn. Unfortunately we're both largely correct in these beliefs. And anyways, your comment was entirely impertinent. So call me a moron all you like, it would never make a dent.
Mark Steyn is our prophet, when the shit hits the fan we'll look at him and say "He told us so". The liberal censorship is disgusting. Why do we let muslims take us over, my guess is liberals. You will have to explain to your sons and daughters.
how did canada (EUROPE and parts of the us) even get to the point where when facts are stated people get offended and basic free speech rights are being challenged? now this book may possibly be banned?! wer am i living agin? it truly is scary! socialism is the breeding ground for all of this.people need to understand that govt is not the answer it weekens the strongest parts of society.. the PEOPLE!people become weak/dependent and lose a very important sence of responsibilty that drives nations
I hope that other viewers watching this video, also, like myself, ask themselves, "What are we doing to ourselves" and, at the very least, support those who are making an effort to defend our civilization while being unfairly attacked as racist, bigoted, what have you.
The Nazis were extremely left wing, but consider that Hitler's well-known party was also known as the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazis for short). He supported state control of industry and was a follower of Karl Marx. Much of Hitler's 'Jewish Question' philosophy was directly lifted from Karl Marx. So ya, socialism leads to totalitarianism.. and it always has.
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system...": Hitler, May 1, 1927. Toland, 1976, p306
So few realize that the left is almost always the way that totalitarianism starts. It is amazing that the "Liberals" which today are actually Socialist don't realize that once you allow government to influence every aspect of your life it is only a matter of time until they will actually control your life.
@n701204x - Very true. I think if you look at a visible political ideology chart, there's this line you must create attaching the far left to the far right because they're basically the same. People have this false idea that the left exclusively leads to peacefulness. No, it doesn't and the same goes for the right, but these days it's been outright demonized. These days it's the liberals who are stoking the flames of anti-semitism and siding with right-wing Islamists. Who are the tyrants here?
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I disagree. Moderate socialism is in no way harmful. Counties such as Canada, Australia, and the UK I believe, owe their free healthcare to socialistic policies and thinking. On the other side you have American style capitalism which by nature is heartless and uncaring for everyday people. A small degree of socialism promotes caring for people, full on capitalism promotes greed and a money first mentality! Capitalist societies with no socialism mixed in will self destruct all the quicker.
I disagree. Let's take a closer look at England where cameras watch kids take a piss. See video: Motorists face Soviet Style Enforcement for more. Likewise, all three you mention use quota system of hiring which are creating increased racism. Now when it comes to America you have to realize socialism is alive and well there. Bush's government has been one of the highest spending on record, ignoring completely the military spending. Larger government is more corrupt government.
Yes, but I was talking of a mix of capitalism and socialism. If the people don't feel their interests are being looked out for the end result will simply be the government will cease to exist as it's citizens will eventually, though not overnight, rebel and overthrow it. BOTH hardcore capitalism and socialism will lead to the same in the end. A balance would be more stable in the long run. Thing is, governments are terrible at balances. The end result of every system, though, is collapse anyway.
What is moderate socialism? The problem is that it cannot be stopped, because those involved have a vested interest is spreading their control over others.
Capitalism isn't uncaring and heartless. Living standards and the plight of the poor is the best in modern capitalist nations. You need to learn the basics about the world you live in.
Why don't you go and look at the quality of medical care in Canada and the UK. Look at reality. You push that argument forward as if it's flattering towards 'free healthcare'. Disturbing...
Why are you blaming liberals for this? Didn't you listen to the clip, it's a liberal MP (Keith Martin) who's proposing to scrap Section 13.1 of the Canadian Human Rights act. Besides, this issue has nothing to do with left or right, this is about freedom of speech. We should all be united against these fascist thugs.
Keith Martin wants to scrap it you are right. The HRC was created by liberals. It still has a lot of Lib support. Dion was against scrapping it at first and now he has changed his tune. Search lib blogs and you will see that most libs support the CHRC and almost all conservatives are against it.
You are right that this goes way beyond parties, it is about our basic freedom. We should stand up for it. Complain to your MP, PMO, Premiere, and go to the Free speech rally in Ottawa Apr. 12.
LOL people in the comments think that hating a religion makes you racist.
blinginlike3p0 3 months ago
Hate Speech legislation is a monstrosity which we ought to abolish. Originally it was introduced by the Jewish lobby, in order to muzzle criticism of the Holocaust rhetoric, back in 1992, or thereabouts.
catallaxy 5 months ago
The problem isn't in letting Muslims *into* our country of course, but in failing to ask what kind of Muslim they are. You should ask, are they the kind of Muslim who believes in individual liberty? Seperation of church and state? You should ask, instead of what is the source of his beliefs, what does he actually believe? It is impossible to have a consistent legal system without accepting some beliefs, some ideas, some values, and rejecting others.
eggory 7 months ago
When speaking of "native populations", Steyn should be careful to only include the UK and "the continent", as he put it, lest he conflate indigenous peoples of the Americas or Australia with who he's really talking about: White People. Aside from that, he makes some good points.
eier 2 years ago
the natives populations of Europe are the Europeans aka white peeps
usersimdave 1 year ago 2
@eier We have a large number of ethnic groups in Britain, so your point wouldn't really apply here. In particular, our Indian and Afro-Carribean groups don't often see eye-to-eye with Muslims.
selfvirt 1 year ago
@selfvirt Yes, but the groups you mentioned aren't native to the British Isles. Muslim immigrants to Australia, for example, are not so much supplanting natives of that country (Aborigines), but the non-native white majority. I was objecting to Steyn's implication that whites are native to the West as a whole, when they're really only native to Europe.
eier 1 year ago
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I wonder does Mark Stein mind if people speak "fact and reality" on the JEW?
c3pofx 2 years ago
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c3pofx 2 years ago
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Lexusryh 2 years ago
last commend was for b5kalad
veager123 2 years ago
DEPORT RADICAL MUSLIMS NOW
AcePilot101 2 years ago 6
Funny, the Dutch had the same conversation 350 years ago. We seem to have come full circle. I guess a lot of Western countries are just not worthy of their freedom. Turn them into caliphate for a while, maybe they like it.
mimimotor 2 years ago 4
The Left in Canada needs to get votes somewhere so sucking up to Muslims will fit the bill. More multiculture b s . I am not a conservative, I don´t belong to a political party, but McGuinty is a bold-faced liar who raised taxes when he said he wouldn´t. But the most of the Jews and the Muslims in Ontario voted for him, that I find to be comical.
rapier1954 3 years ago 3
Mark Steyn for President!
bebeinpa 3 years ago 26
It would be nice.
b5kalad 2 years ago
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@bebeinpa
"Mark Steyn for President!"
Prime Minister, you mean. He was born in Toronto and could never run for President by law.
qtutoringhelps 9 months ago
Ahhhh yes, the good ol' left huh? They really HATE it when other people don't think like them do they?
cadillacjim75 3 years ago 3
in the real world, you can't just cry "hate speech" and expect that statement to shut the so called "hate speech' up. it will never work that way! the facts are the facts! where in the hell did this bullshit term "hate speech" come from anyway? I've never heard anything more FUCKING PATHETIC IN MY LIFE ! IT'S NOT AGAINST ANY LAW TO HATE ANYTHING YOU MOTHER FUCKING DUMB ASSES !!! FUCK OFF !
vmkSAVAGEGUY 3 years ago 2
Canada is so weak, it will fall into the same trap as Europe and the French. We need to defend our way of life and stand up for democracy and Freedom of Speech. These attacks on our basic freedoms are already working as the media is scared of talking about the truth. When you have fear, then your country is already under attack.
Westis1Best 3 years ago 6
True, I live with 20 minutes of Canada. It is falling just like Europe. Sad but true.
b5kalad 3 years ago 3
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veager123 2 years ago
Steyn's accent is so weird. It's as if he's trying really hard to sound posh, enunciating in such an old-fashioned faux-British manner. Annoying!
edwardlane34500 3 years ago
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edwardlane34500,
I believe he was hiding his ethnic background and passing himself as an Anglo-Saxon "to be more credible and respectable". Mark Steyn "BORN Toronto of Jewish (father's side) and Belgian Catholic (mother's side)" He desires to spare himself the racism he freely prcatices: at stormfront about Mark & Ezra "Having seen photos of the pair and having some rough biographical information on them, I think it's permissible to have a basic aversion to them simply because they are jews."
myyou1 3 years ago
Steyn was educated and spent his formative and early adult years in the United Kingdom. His accent is his own.
jd2040 3 years ago 4
Yes but it was Birmingham where we lived and that ain't no Brummie accent!
edwardlane34500 3 years ago
You're not debating - you're namecalling.
Steyn elegantly transcibes alarming statistics. If you don't think it is alarming then you are probably muslim.
GoodTimeTraveler 3 years ago 3
It is a mixed accent! There is obvious south african and australian in there. Why does nobody hear that?
St37One 3 years ago
Mark Steyn was born in Toronto, Canada but went to college at Oxford in England.
b5kalad 3 years ago
That's a bit old to acquire an English accent. Once you're 18, whatever accent you have spoken with up until that time is what you're stuck with. The plates of your mouth form that way - so it's a bit pretentious for him to speak that way.
universalradio 2 years ago
universalradio, interesting comment. I live near (Niagara Falls) to Canada and use the date a few girls from Canada. Over the years I have fooled many from Canada because I know Canada and its politics than most. In the end, they believe I'm an ex-patriot but they always ask about my New York accent.
b5kalad 2 years ago
Americans' perspective on our affairs is always interesting. I was told that (about the plates in your mouth) by a Dutch woman who hated her accent. She was a teacher.
universalradio 2 years ago
another so called educator how hates what and who she is. Thats who I think ought to be teaching kids.
JonnyBoulevard 2 years ago
Sorry that sounds ridiculous, how does your opinion of your accent affect how well you perform in the teaching proffession? If she said I hate holland and want to bring it down from the inside by corrupting the minds of children, yeah fair enough. But she didn't, she wasn't keen on her accent. Besides do you think that your own country shouldn't be criticised?
dredyouall2 2 years ago
Frankly, I've always thought it was pretentious for anyone to speak with an English accent. I'll bet Brits talk like everyone else when they think Americans aren't listening. (If it's legal to say that in Canada.)
jlewisda 2 years ago
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Brits can be the most obnoxious people ever - in Canada. Rude, usually. But they can also be very pleasant. I took great pleasure in firing an English appliance repairman once - because he got pissed off at being asked to come in the back door (servants' entrance in England); and so acted like a jerk over the repair. I phoned his company and told them not to send him back again, they said he'd been difficult and wondered if it was the English thing - I said yes, and don't be nice to him.
universalradio 2 years ago
@universalradio What on Earth are you talking about and how is your stupid little story pertinent to this video? You seem much like your average Canadian, the type that Steyn attacks the most. Weak, meek, and your head in the politically-correct sand.
mtb416 1 year ago
@mtb416 And what the hell are YOU talking about? Obviously you don't have a clue, about Canada, or anything else. What a moron.
universalradio 1 year ago
@universalradio I have many clues about Canada and Canadians. So does Steyn. Unfortunately we're both largely correct in these beliefs. And anyways, your comment was entirely impertinent. So call me a moron all you like, it would never make a dent.
Have a good one, eh!
mtb416 1 year ago
He went to high school in the UK
OneBigRetard 2 years ago 3
Mark Steyn is our prophet, when the shit hits the fan we'll look at him and say "He told us so". The liberal censorship is disgusting. Why do we let muslims take us over, my guess is liberals. You will have to explain to your sons and daughters.
cooper560ca 3 years ago 28
@cooper560ca
a prophet? Good lord you motherfuckers are just as retarded as the muslims.
braveryinterpol 6 months ago
@cooper560ca You're right, our biggest enemies are the liberals.
There is a bigger one but we cant pronounce his name. :)
Ducky888888 2 weeks ago
how did canada (EUROPE and parts of the us) even get to the point where when facts are stated people get offended and basic free speech rights are being challenged? now this book may possibly be banned?! wer am i living agin? it truly is scary! socialism is the breeding ground for all of this.people need to understand that govt is not the answer it weekens the strongest parts of society.. the PEOPLE!people become weak/dependent and lose a very important sence of responsibilty that drives nations
dbos30 3 years ago 3
Steyn is borderline genius.
mrlake002 3 years ago 3
I disagree, he is a genius.
nuktubian 3 years ago 2
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He's just a pompous, arrogant blowhard.
universalradio 2 years ago
Instead of an ad hominem attack, let's hear a substantive critique of what he is saying.
7beers 2 years ago 2
@universalradio Why are people like you so stupid?
KingDingaLing090 1 year ago
UK rejected the partial Sharia law thing...
Tempest in a tea pot. The media is still trying to manufacture an enemy.
homerthompsonman 3 years ago
I hope that other viewers watching this video, also, like myself, ask themselves, "What are we doing to ourselves" and, at the very least, support those who are making an effort to defend our civilization while being unfairly attacked as racist, bigoted, what have you.
12ut5 4 years ago 3
The Nazis were extremely left wing, but consider that Hitler's well-known party was also known as the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazis for short). He supported state control of industry and was a follower of Karl Marx. Much of Hitler's 'Jewish Question' philosophy was directly lifted from Karl Marx. So ya, socialism leads to totalitarianism.. and it always has.
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system...": Hitler, May 1, 1927. Toland, 1976, p306
TheSharpenedPen 4 years ago 6
So few realize that the left is almost always the way that totalitarianism starts. It is amazing that the "Liberals" which today are actually Socialist don't realize that once you allow government to influence every aspect of your life it is only a matter of time until they will actually control your life.
n701204x 3 years ago 5
@n701204x - Very true. I think if you look at a visible political ideology chart, there's this line you must create attaching the far left to the far right because they're basically the same. People have this false idea that the left exclusively leads to peacefulness. No, it doesn't and the same goes for the right, but these days it's been outright demonized. These days it's the liberals who are stoking the flames of anti-semitism and siding with right-wing Islamists. Who are the tyrants here?
bigalisme 3 years ago
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I disagree. Moderate socialism is in no way harmful. Counties such as Canada, Australia, and the UK I believe, owe their free healthcare to socialistic policies and thinking. On the other side you have American style capitalism which by nature is heartless and uncaring for everyday people. A small degree of socialism promotes caring for people, full on capitalism promotes greed and a money first mentality! Capitalist societies with no socialism mixed in will self destruct all the quicker.
ColtMcKenzieBelle 3 years ago
I disagree. Let's take a closer look at England where cameras watch kids take a piss. See video: Motorists face Soviet Style Enforcement for more. Likewise, all three you mention use quota system of hiring which are creating increased racism. Now when it comes to America you have to realize socialism is alive and well there. Bush's government has been one of the highest spending on record, ignoring completely the military spending. Larger government is more corrupt government.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 5
Yes, but I was talking of a mix of capitalism and socialism. If the people don't feel their interests are being looked out for the end result will simply be the government will cease to exist as it's citizens will eventually, though not overnight, rebel and overthrow it. BOTH hardcore capitalism and socialism will lead to the same in the end. A balance would be more stable in the long run. Thing is, governments are terrible at balances. The end result of every system, though, is collapse anyway.
ColtMcKenzieBelle 3 years ago
sharpened pen won this argument hands down!
Northgrant 3 years ago
What is moderate socialism? The problem is that it cannot be stopped, because those involved have a vested interest is spreading their control over others.
Islamwtf 3 years ago
oh god, grow up you nitwit.
'Free healthcare' isn't free.
Capitalism isn't uncaring and heartless. Living standards and the plight of the poor is the best in modern capitalist nations. You need to learn the basics about the world you live in.
Why don't you go and look at the quality of medical care in Canada and the UK. Look at reality. You push that argument forward as if it's flattering towards 'free healthcare'. Disturbing...
memblor 3 years ago 3
Go Mark!
cmgollatz 4 years ago 4
it thoroughly offends and embarrasses me that something like this is happening in canada
bfq3000 4 years ago 4
Are you shocked? I always knew that liberals had this fascist streak in them.
EasyEs 4 years ago 7
Why are you blaming liberals for this? Didn't you listen to the clip, it's a liberal MP (Keith Martin) who's proposing to scrap Section 13.1 of the Canadian Human Rights act. Besides, this issue has nothing to do with left or right, this is about freedom of speech. We should all be united against these fascist thugs.
bfq3000 4 years ago 4
Sorry I should have been more clear. I meant the far left, not the liberal party in particular. I agree we should stand up to this stuff united.
EasyEs 4 years ago 3
Keith Martin wants to scrap it you are right. The HRC was created by liberals. It still has a lot of Lib support. Dion was against scrapping it at first and now he has changed his tune. Search lib blogs and you will see that most libs support the CHRC and almost all conservatives are against it.
You are right that this goes way beyond parties, it is about our basic freedom. We should stand up for it. Complain to your MP, PMO, Premiere, and go to the Free speech rally in Ottawa Apr. 12.
MetalMilitia1971 3 years ago 4