So let me get this straight, no pun intended, they ripped off their own show?
Same flat share, One is supposedly in love with a woman. One is out and proud. They hangout at No Limits, They have a big scene in front of campfire?!?! I'm cracking up but enjoying it nonetheless!
This is my favourite couple in TV, I always like the gesture that Ulli (Andreas Stenschke) shows his love. It's been ten years, love to watch it again and thanks for posting it with english sub.
@Carozzzi Same series. Tom and Ulli fell in love but broke up. Then Tom and Olli fell in love. Ulli came back and Tom slept with him and broke up Olli and Tom. Later Olli fell in love with Christian. Tom and Ulli are now together but off the show. Olli and Christian are still on the show. (Both Tom and Olli fell in love with straight guys, Ulli and Christian, on camping trips.)
@ConitoErgoSum Tom chose Oliver over Ulli because he did not want to give up what had been built up between Oliver and him. A year later Oliver fell in love with a real straight guy Lukas and dumped Tom. Lukas turned out to be just a crook.
@ConitoErgoSum So Ollie was the .... what's that guys name that Ollie met on vacation then came to Germany to find it ... in the Tom/Ulli Relationship
im seriously not getting it can anyone please eplain whats all this going on. is this show related to christian and ollis show in anyway. is this the same show. im so new to this one.
@punkprincess2351 you asked this ques 3 weeks ago if u still haven't figured out here goes: it is the same show (only a decade earlier) olli is a col student.Ulli is a different character ... olli also dates tom,--spoiler alert-- but in the end tom and ulli are reunited(after all the story is about them and not about olli), olli leaves to work on a cruiser (ciation needed ;p) ....
in the new(present) storyline olli returns and well the rest is 'chrolli'.
Ulli (Ulrich) and Nick (Nikolaus) Prozeski - nephews of Countess Clarissa von Anstetten (1st royal family in the series, main villain, ex bff with Charlie Schneider, mother of the twins Jan and Julia who fell in love with each other - thats why they called it "forbidden love")
Tom (Thomas) Seifert - friend of Nick
Milli (Milena) Sander - niece of Arno Brandner's 1st wife Iris (father of Jan+Julia, Florian, Susanne - brother of Matthias,uncle of David and Lydia...)
@TorridGermanLove First it was Tom & Ullie, then it was Ullie and ollie or tom and ollie i'm not sure, and then came Cristian and it was ollie and cristian.
@atltallone907 ulli is a different character .... although later in the show tom and olli do go out for sometime but then ulli comes back and tom and ulli are reunited.
Nmcaia, I don't have clips of the male couple that you're referring to (0:15, I believe). Unless I'm very much mistaken, they're father and son. Then again, the show is called 'Forbidden Love', so it wouldn't surprise me if something like that were to take place.
so is this like a VL formula, Gay guy moves in with straight guy, Straight guy is weirded out by gay guy(who has secret crush on him) they have some piviotal moment, they become friends. Straight guy realizes he's gay and loves Gay guy. After some wrangling they become a couple. Whew, whatever I guess if ain't broke broke don't fix it(lol)
Thanks a lot to you putting the Tom + Ulli story online.
I watched this storyline when it aired back then in 1999/2000. It was great... and both actors had the same great chemistry which Olli + Chris have today. (Pity it didn't work the same way between Tom and Olli.)
Both storylines have one wonderful thing in common: all of the four actors get cuter and cuter as their relationships develop.
This is sounding suspiciously like another story on this show...
cheeseisniceable 1 week ago
So let me get this straight, no pun intended, they ripped off their own show?
Same flat share, One is supposedly in love with a woman. One is out and proud. They hangout at No Limits, They have a big scene in front of campfire?!?! I'm cracking up but enjoying it nonetheless!
shinojosa8 8 months ago
what the fuck just happened isnt he gay lol love it
analiciajade 1 year ago
This is my favourite couple in TV, I always like the gesture that Ulli (Andreas Stenschke) shows his love. It's been ten years, love to watch it again and thanks for posting it with english sub.
Otwinklestar 1 year ago 7
thumbs up if you like 90's hair. lol.
MoQuake 1 year ago 2
Is this a different version?, I mean, Christian and Olli are a remake of this series?
Carozzzi 1 year ago
@Carozzzi Kind of.
sshuang90 1 year ago
@Carozzzi Same series. Tom and Ulli fell in love but broke up. Then Tom and Olli fell in love. Ulli came back and Tom slept with him and broke up Olli and Tom. Later Olli fell in love with Christian. Tom and Ulli are now together but off the show. Olli and Christian are still on the show. (Both Tom and Olli fell in love with straight guys, Ulli and Christian, on camping trips.)
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@ConitoErgoSum Tom chose Oliver over Ulli because he did not want to give up what had been built up between Oliver and him. A year later Oliver fell in love with a real straight guy Lukas and dumped Tom. Lukas turned out to be just a crook.
rtgtx 9 months ago
@ConitoErgoSum So Ollie was the .... what's that guys name that Ollie met on vacation then came to Germany to find it ... in the Tom/Ulli Relationship
phoenix3370 2 months ago
Ok seriously, Ulli screams gay.
natascha19uscg 1 year ago 2
@natascha19uscg lol yep. not too hard to see that one coming :P
betts3985 1 year ago
the line that tom says that ulli is nuts but cute puts me in mind of something loiver would tell christian. haha
ericnfan 1 year ago
Ulli puts me in mind of when christian first discovered he was in love with oliver. Ulli is overreacting to hid his feelings about tom.
ericnfan 1 year ago
ich find christian (toppe) richtig cool
vollpfosten500 1 year ago
im seriously not getting it can anyone please eplain whats all this going on. is this show related to christian and ollis show in anyway. is this the same show. im so new to this one.
punkprincess2351 2 years ago
@punkprincess2351 you asked this ques 3 weeks ago if u still haven't figured out here goes: it is the same show (only a decade earlier) olli is a col student.Ulli is a different character ... olli also dates tom,--spoiler alert-- but in the end tom and ulli are reunited(after all the story is about them and not about olli), olli leaves to work on a cruiser (ciation needed ;p) ....
in the new(present) storyline olli returns and well the rest is 'chrolli'.
skunktheshrink 1 year ago
What are these character's last names? Just to place them where they are in the big scheme of VL, with the power families...
haesselmaas 2 years ago
Ulli (Ulrich) and Nick (Nikolaus) Prozeski - nephews of Countess Clarissa von Anstetten (1st royal family in the series, main villain, ex bff with Charlie Schneider, mother of the twins Jan and Julia who fell in love with each other - thats why they called it "forbidden love")
Tom (Thomas) Seifert - friend of Nick
Milli (Milena) Sander - niece of Arno Brandner's 1st wife Iris (father of Jan+Julia, Florian, Susanne - brother of Matthias,uncle of David and Lydia...)
hope that helps a bit :-)
1010sky 2 years ago
Yes, thank you! That helps a lot, even though most of those¨family names aren't on the show anymore ;)
haesselmaas 2 years ago
Is that No Limits?! It looks so different! What's the story of that place? Because I guess it has a history before Gregor?
haesselmaas 2 years ago
from the 1st episode onwards there were always kind of 3 main locations:
1) the No limits building in Düsseldorf ( i.e. the bar, a little hotel and the flat shares)
2) a castle (country side of Düsseldorf)
3) the Brander house in Cologne
The No Limits had a lot of owner and was refurbished several times
1010sky 2 years ago
Thank you, but how did Gregor get it? Wasn't he a call-boy?
I'm just full of questions and there's only so much you can read about on Wikipedia ;-)
haesselmaas 2 years ago
is that the same Christian with a different actor?
buri208 2 years ago
@buri208 Different Christian. During this time period, the current Christian would have probalby still be living with his dad before going to prison.
ConitoErgoSum 2 months ago
Tom is cute. : )
MrsPanicAtTheDisco1 2 years ago 4
Isnt this the same show that Olli and Christian are on?
atltallone907 2 years ago 3
... i assume its before Olli and Christian.... This just looks a little older
atltallone907 2 years ago 3
oliver started likin christian around a campfire to :)
daisyispunk 2 years ago
@daisyispunk yeah just something about that campfire that makes oliver realize things. :)
ericnfan 1 year ago
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sshuang90 2 years ago
I don't understand about Tom&Ulli and Christian &Oli... who's before?
Sorry for my bad Eng.
zoonjin 2 years ago
Zoonjin,
Tom & Ulli came first. 9 years later, Christian & Olli appeared.
TorridGermanLove 2 years ago 2
Thak you so much :)
zoonjin 2 years ago
@TorridGermanLove First it was Tom & Ullie, then it was Ullie and ollie or tom and ollie i'm not sure, and then came Cristian and it was ollie and cristian.
smileygirl301 8 months ago
TGL - Vielen dank. Ulli Ulli Ulli. Ich bin auch ein bisschen verliebt.
Pastrypoet 2 years ago
sooooo ulli is not olliver?? then where in hell is the tom olli thing
frankduke2 2 years ago
no, they're two different characters. the order is:
1. tom + ulli
2. tom + olli
3. olli + christian
i think... ;)
ErklaerMirDieWelt 2 years ago 4
WHAT Tom and Olli............is that on here too.... i cant beleive Olli had anyone before Christain... j/k lol
atltallone907 2 years ago
@atltallone907 ulli is a different character .... although later in the show tom and olli do go out for sometime but then ulli comes back and tom and ulli are reunited.
skunktheshrink 2 years ago
Are Ulli and Olli the same character, played by two different actors at different times? Did Andreas Stenschke's Ulli become jo Weil's Olli?
JohnInOz1 2 years ago
no- two totally different characters.
bluete21 2 years ago
Just for the record, who is Ulli fooling, there's nothing straight about him at all.
armanet1572 2 years ago
Andreas Stenschke (Ulli) is online! Take a look at dished(dot)tv! There you'll find his new show "Ändis wiire Welt".
johnnylenny 2 years ago
j'adore cette seri les deuxgrand amour de tom &ulli
parsyc1 2 years ago
Is this before Christian and Olli? because there's a NoLimits!
browneyedsenorita12 2 years ago
Browneyedsenorita12, this series is indeed before Christian and Olli.
TorridGermanLove 2 years ago
It appears that the bar has been redecorated for Xiver- Christian und Oliver!
In the intro (thanks so much for that!) there seems to be a male couple who are in their 40's- are they in a relationship? Are there clips of them?
nmcaia 2 years ago
Nmcaia, I don't have clips of the male couple that you're referring to (0:15, I believe). Unless I'm very much mistaken, they're father and son. Then again, the show is called 'Forbidden Love', so it wouldn't surprise me if something like that were to take place.
TorridGermanLove 2 years ago
Yes it is, at least when Christian wasn't in the picture or Gregor. Olli may have been in the before but may not have been introduce yet.
armanet1572 2 years ago
Wie heisst das lied bei 3:29
PlutoMan0 2 years ago
PlutoMan0: 'The Sweetest Thing' von U2.
TorridGermanLove 2 years ago
so is this like a VL formula, Gay guy moves in with straight guy, Straight guy is weirded out by gay guy(who has secret crush on him) they have some piviotal moment, they become friends. Straight guy realizes he's gay and loves Gay guy. After some wrangling they become a couple. Whew, whatever I guess if ain't broke broke don't fix it(lol)
BlueBunny84 2 years ago 3
They're even recicyling names too. Ulli/Olli, this Tom and Olli's-ex Tom and a our Christian and the guy at 3:00...
Guess you're totally right.
xchan99 2 years ago
the story is similar...but isn't it the same with all soap stories? :-)
concerning the names:
Ulli = Ulrich
Olli = Oliver
totally different names
and Tom.. he is the same person (1. Ulli 2. Olli 3. Ulli again).
btw Christian is a very common name in Germany and as there are a couple of years between the 2 stories...
1010sky 2 years ago
this Tom = Olli's-ex Tom
sshuang90 1 year ago
@BlueBunny84 exactly
ericnfan 1 year ago
I love this story line almost as I love the one with Christian and Oliver
raspberryman1968 2 years ago
I'm bias I more like Olli and Christian than any other couples on this show.
armanet1572 2 years ago
lol the guys nuts but hes cute tht is soooooo funny
marcofan101 3 years ago 2
Tom is real cute!
:-)
pastelsand 3 years ago 13
wow she is TTIIIIINNYYYYYY!!!!
rumika 3 years ago 3
This reminds me of Luke and Noah.
Stolenmyheart28 3 years ago 10
6:39
Real subtle.
MetronAnthropos 3 years ago 2
this is pratically christian and olli the same name vebetiene leibe places no limits schneiders. only thing different the guys names
iam0a0pc 3 years ago
iam0a0pc, Verbotene Liebe (the series) with Tulli and Chrolli are one and the same. Tulli (Tom and Ulli) was broadcast 9 years ago.
TorridGermanLove 3 years ago
Wow... Even 9 years ago, this soap had such a cute couple! :D
SilverEriena 3 years ago 5
or the continuation where Ullie is stilll straight lol
pites20 3 years ago
i think its 1996 the first season of VL. Ollian Tandem is the remakeof VL
pites20 3 years ago
verboten liebe& cristian and oli? the same film?
7nevski7 3 years ago
7nevski7, it is the same film.
TorridGermanLove 3 years ago
hmmm! something very familiar about this storyline! very familiar!
02jsarre 3 years ago
Blimey this is old!
FrankieRoute 3 years ago
can anyone tell me if ulli is jo weil or not?
i really can't recognize him.
thank u!
deepsea484 3 years ago
Deepsea484, Ulli is not Jo Weil.
TorridGermanLove 3 years ago
thank u for ur answer!
deepsea484 3 years ago
from what I have seen so far...Olli(Jo Weil) and Ulli are 2 different people:) I just got introduced to this SL myself.
moviefan2585 3 years ago
when was this storyline on ???
redjuicyapples 3 years ago
In 1999/2000, I believe.
TorridGermanLove 3 years ago
Tom's gaydar zeroed in on Ulli .. Ulli is a closet case ..his gay friends need a gaydar tuneup
victor2cutube 3 years ago 3
That little smile Tom gives Ulli at 4:50 when he's doing his push ups! ;)
boppiecat 3 years ago 3
I bet those croissants were all hard and stale.
bdmjintx 3 years ago
danke Joe! Really fun to watch, and as Ivan said, the hairstyles are awesome! :-)
tihkon2 3 years ago 3
wow they played coffee and tv back then...amazing!
ssugarpluscreamm 3 years ago
Thank you for translating this story-line as well, Joe.
It amazes me that you guys (Germans) were able to watch another frank gay love-story (almost ten years ago) in daytime TV...Wow!
We are still struggling (ten years latter) with Nuke. It's very sad...
mycatfox 3 years ago 4
love you. thank you.
LNmasterz 3 years ago
How nice of you to post this, TGL! I always wanted to see how Tom and Ulli fell in love so we really appreciate your hard work! :)
ilovejake28 3 years ago
thank you so much.i have been wanting to see ulli and tom story.thanks for the subtitle as well.
wenwen47 3 years ago
Thanks, I am looking forward to see the next parts. BTW I love the haircuts :D
IvanIV05 3 years ago 3
Is the blonde guy called Christian at the table with Tom the same Christian character as we have now with Olli ?
hubbellgardner 3 years ago
No, that's Christian Toppe(actor Luke J. Wilkins), not Christian Mann (actor Thore Schölermann).
RdGmp2 3 years ago
a new christian n olli hohoho
stevenwidjaja22 3 years ago 2
Aww that was sweet.
Thanks for doing this.
How long til the next one? =D hehe.
obsessed89 3 years ago
Part 2 will be released on Monday (15/Sept/08).
TorridGermanLove 3 years ago
Yay :) Thank youu x
obsessed89 3 years ago
Thanks a lot to you putting the Tom + Ulli story online.
I watched this storyline when it aired back then in 1999/2000. It was great... and both actors had the same great chemistry which Olli + Chris have today. (Pity it didn't work the same way between Tom and Olli.)
Both storylines have one wonderful thing in common: all of the four actors get cuter and cuter as their relationships develop.
7cb4xtk 3 years ago 3
Thank you for posting this.. I can't wait to see the rest. :)
semisweet85 3 years ago 3
I don't know .. this is my first time watching this story line of VL.. but I'd put money on Ulli being gay a good ole closet case..
victor2cutube 3 years ago
Thank you so much for uploading this and with subtitles too! It's great to see the beginnings of Tom & Ulli :-)
Feline68 3 years ago 4
I really love this video. It is nice to see what happened before. Thanks,
rachel695 3 years ago
When Tom says "Ulli" it sounds exactly like "Olli".
RdGmp2 3 years ago 2
Thanks Mate this is really nice and I am really enjoying it!!
soonersherewego 3 years ago 2
This is interesting - to see what happened before Olli came along...Tom looked pretty hot doing the pushups, by the way.
jsginbtr 3 years ago 4
Torrid thank you.
Ryabenko 3 years ago 3