CON: Colorado Amendment 48

[HumanRights4Everyone]

"Since abortion is impossible to justify on the merits (it kills a living human being, remember), "choice" has become the foundation of its political justification. Abortion advocates don't want to talk about facts or science, but they love to talk about "choice". "This is America...We're free to choose...You can't legislate morality!" Nothing has so clouded and confused the politics of this debate more than the misconstrued application of this one little term....

[HumanRights4Everyone]

...The bottom line is this. Choice is nothing apart from the context to which it is applied. Individual choices are either recognized or restricted based upon the circumstances at hand. That's how our laws work. You simply cannot talk about choice in isolation." - Abort73(dot)com.

[1453074]

If everyone had the same economic standing, then using race would be discrimination. We need race based decisions because everyone is NOT in the same economic standing. What these people are saying is that it is not fair to rich white kids that get the private tutoring and the expensive SAT preparation that their parents could afford to get them into college.

[GuabeGarcia]

There is no such thing as a fertilized egg. Once it is fertilized it is not an egg but an embryo.

Imagine trying to equate being a human being with being a human person. "Outrageous" say the baby killers.

Their motto should be, treating all human beings as equal under the law simply goes too far. That would be truthful.

[soedblackchaos]

Actually, if this passed, then every woman who had a miscarriage, would have to be charged with manslaughter. Listen to the second half of the video. It's not all about the "baby kilers" as you'd like to think it is.

[GuabeGarcia]

FALSE

Basic criminal law principles state that there needs to be a guilty act that accompanies a guilty intent. Neither is present here. The woman does not intentionally will her body to miscarriage and therefore she could not be punished.

This is a scare tactic used so that the skilled (sometimes not very skilled) physicians can continue to knowingly dismember 1.3 million preborn americans every year. Lies, lies, and more lies are all you have.

[soedblackchaos]

Um, Manslaughter does NOT require intent. And yes, a woman could be charged with that if she took a vitamin c suppliment while pregnant or if woman smokes while pregnant she would be charged with neglegent child abuse? That is exactly the kind of thing that would happen if this isn't just a ploy to stop abortion. They'd have to arrest every woman who drank or played sports while pregnant because that's reckless endangerment of the fetus.

[GuabeGarcia]

You're wrong, manslaughter requires a form of negligence greater than that in a civil lawsuit, depending on the charge it is usually gross negligence or some form of extreme indifference. Taking a vitamin supplement would not constitute it, and even smoking doesn't rise to this. Simple Criminal Law 101 of the type you can find on wikipedia. That is assuming you care to look.

[soedblackchaos]

Since every pack of cigarettes and every doctor on the face of the planet tells women that smoking during pregnancy is very likely to harm the fetus, then yes, smoking while pregnent would be considered extreme indifference to the well-being of said fetus and would have to be prosecuted by law. It's like force-feeding a child carsinagens and would HAVE TO BE PROSECUTED if said amendment means anything beyond trying to end legal abortion.

[soedblackchaos]

A woman can be charged with neglegence for leaving her kid in the car on a hot day, so obviously there'd be ramifications for women who neglected their health during pregnancies.

[Fuctmentality]

@GuabeGarcia NO it's not, an embryo is multicellular a fertilized ovum isn't even a complete cell.

[brochureman]

COWARDS! BABY KILLERS

[bse523]

bro- religious zealot! Bible thumper!

[protectfamilies]

Get a grip.

[Greendayguy221]

right on!