I don't suppose that he got a letter from a relative telling him of the death?? There are many ways and possibilities of being notified that someone you knew died. I can picture this explanation and I don't know why they would fabricate a story either. Now that I know the story and the lyrics, I love this song even more.
About the Gulf War thing I read it somewhere else and that's about the meaning of the song. when he sings "I said, I don't, I don't know whether is a box or a bag" meaning that her friend would not know whether her brother would be sent bag on a box (coffin) or a bag(body bag).
@posionjbv i think the reference to "a boxer or a bag" is a metaphor meaning which is worse--getting punched (dying) or punching (the relative survivor).
I would also like to add that the band said in the early 90s the song was about Huddie Ledbetter and a picture of a group of people from the south sitting on a porch. Which is why I also don't put much stock in the claim related.
I would not put much stock in this eddie's explanation. As the military doesn't send letters to notify the next of kin that their relative is deceased. Vietnam saw the end of the telegram. During the gulf war family members were notified by a small group of service members. Also, there is no Ledbetter listed as KIA in the first gulf war which also doesn't support eddie's claim. I understand that it may be a half brother with a different last name but doub it.
@smigio111188 Yeah I have to say, even thought this may have deep meaning to Eddie Vedder, his lyric writing is really bad on this song, and I am a Pearl Jam fan. There's just too much bad grammar, and repetitiveness on this song. I'll stick with the misheardlyricsguy lyrics. They make more sense!
And Vedder is still not telling the truth about this song. It most definantly has to do with Ole ledbetter the blues player and Curt Cobain and "not wanting to stay"
It is almost right, but the fact is its "in a box or a bag"....talking about soldiers dying in war its what the whole song is about. A letter on the porch, men coming to the door, I want what I want(my kids life back)...wake the fuck up people.....this shit is propagated by your government! War means politicians make money, we citizens have no special interest groups we have no lobbiests lining our pockets in green, and pretty soon we wont have insurance either!!! Wake the fuck up!!!!!
WTF are you talking about? Just because there aren't concrete lyrics for it, doesn't mean there aren't words. He sings it different a lot (every time I've seen them live). This is one of the first songs they wrote as a band. It has a meaning and there are words, just maybe not sang the same every time.
I understand that scat doesn't mean that there are NO words. I just wouldn't go as far to say it's scat singing. In your response you said, "there are no lyrics." What do you call the words that he is singing? Whether they change or not, they're still lyrics and typically follow the same general structure.
in the first 10 seconds of this video it says "These are the actual lyrics".........scat singing is not a written down lyrical idea...its scat singing....there are no official lyrics......damn you people will argue about anything as long as you think your right
I know this is gonna shock your ego a bit bud, seeing as you're so obviously self-absorbed, but just because you say something doesn't make it true. What's even funnier is that in a roundabout way, you just proved my point(that you're a hypocrite when you call others out on arguing about anything as long as you think you are right). I should thank you for that, as it provided me with a bit of amusement in an other-wise boring morning.
i dont have an ego. and im fairly sure that this thread didnt involve you till you made yourself involved...speaking of ego's. Love you morons who think you can just jump into other people conversations and pick a fight....sad....sad people
Parts of this are right, but the band has never officially released the full lyrics. Either way great song. Don't know why he just won't tell us the lyrics...
The song is about a soldier bringing the family members a letter saying that their loved one is dead due to combat. and he singing from the soldier delevering the the letter perspective
He DOES NOT say "I don't know whether Im the boxer or the bag". He is talking about someones brother coming home from war in either a box or a bag. He is just mumbling and it sounds like that
yes he does say that! because the solder isn't sure if he's if he's the boxer meaning he the one delivering the blow of bad news or if he's the bag because he feels so bad for delivering the message like he's the one taking the blow
I have damn near developed a complex over the last 10+ years trying to figure out what the hell EDDIE is talkin about!......NOW I KNOW!!!!! I need a beer!
I think it's I don't wanna wait on an box or a bag. It's what it sounds like to me and if it's an anti gulf war song it would make sense, waiting on a box (coffin) or a bag (body bag).
Thank you so much for the lyrics & backstory. I loved the song without knowing what the hell Eddie was saying, but now I'm able to love it that much more. BRING OUR MEN & WOMEN HOME!!!!
Excellent job translating. But, I have to agree with amundra3494 I think it is in a "box or a bag". Thanks for making that video. 50 year-old Pearl Jam fan.
Thank you so much for doing this. I love Pearl Jam, and I loved this song before knowing the heck he was saying - anyway, this is great, I really enjoy reading lyrics while listening to Pearl Jam's songs! Loooooove me some Eddie!
he definitely says "I don't know whether there's a box or a bag". Don't know whether I'm the boxer or a bag is cool though. Maybe there are no lyrics, just an idea. Stipe did that. His band said that he never wrote anything down and they never knew what he was gonna sing. If this song is about a dead soldier, the imagery is quite vivid.
Um, yes it does, when you think about how a dead soldier's body is shipped home from a war..."in a box or a bag." This song is about war veterans who have been discarded and disrespected by society. It has nothing to do with boxing.
They dont ship bodies home in bags from war. He says I dont know whether Im a boxer or the bag, not as a boxing reference but as in he doesnt know if hes doing the beating or if hes being beaten up
I always thought that it was in a "box or in a bag" because the guy knew his brother was dead so he would come home in a casket or a bodybag. But that's just what i thought
THIS SONG WAS ABOUT EDDIE VEDDERS FRIEND, TIM LEDBETTER!~ Some live versions he does sing a couple of different lyrics.."On the wayside I'd like to wish this war away I tried but it just don't happen that way"....I think of him when I go to bed, and he's coming home in a box or a bag" This song is played at every Pearl Jam concert. It's usually the last song. Sometimes Eddie will say.."In a period of war, we will sing songs that speak about the importance of peace"
This song is written about Eddie Vedders friend, TIM LEDBETTER, who went off to THE PERSIAN GULF WAR. So in the lyrics of this song..."i don't whether Im a boxer or a bar"...IT ACTUALLY IS..."i don't know whether it's a box or a bag" In some of the live versions he also sings..."And my brother...they sent off to fight for the flag, I just, I don't hope he comes home in a box or a bag"
Its poetry...not everyone understands it...thats ok...its poetry
jknight1972 2 weeks ago
Make me fries.
K4rt80y 4 months ago
POTATO WAVE!!
Memoria777 5 months ago
vedder make me cry when he sing the love themes of pearl jam hahaha welcome to mexico PJ
hbrska 5 months ago
it isn't a (coffin) box or (body) bag--he doesn't know whether he's the boxer or the (punching) bag because he's taking a beating.
cinderviv 8 months ago
lol...the real lyrics make about as much sense as the misheard lyrics!!!!
morgadaan 9 months ago
Sometimes, I actually think I can write lyrics. After hearing this song, now I know I can't.
This is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.
btwall60 10 months ago
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I love Pearl Jam.
jfoley715 11 months ago
the lyrics say both, first its "And the reason oughta leave her calm I know, i said I know what I wear that a box or the bag"
then later it says : I want to drum it all away, an I said, I said ' I dont, i dont know whether i was the boxer or the bag' ".
KarenA926 1 year ago
Blatant Jimi Hendrix rip off.
wolfgang3 1 year ago
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE AND YOUR FAKE LYRICS!!!!
moiyanez 1 year ago
i dont think u got the "boxer or bag" thing right. but for the most part u seem dead on
blbrizzle 1 year ago
fender rules.
TrishtheDishNY 1 year ago
I don't suppose that he got a letter from a relative telling him of the death?? There are many ways and possibilities of being notified that someone you knew died. I can picture this explanation and I don't know why they would fabricate a story either. Now that I know the story and the lyrics, I love this song even more.
joelunchbox1 1 year ago
the gist of the song is about a "notification letter" that one brother recieves notifying him of his brother's death in a war is it not?
BLShippy 1 year ago
About the Gulf War thing I read it somewhere else and that's about the meaning of the song. when he sings "I said, I don't, I don't know whether is a box or a bag" meaning that her friend would not know whether her brother would be sent bag on a box (coffin) or a bag(body bag).
At least that's how I see it.
posionjbv 1 year ago 2
@posionjbv i think the reference to "a boxer or a bag" is a metaphor meaning which is worse--getting punched (dying) or punching (the relative survivor).
TrishtheDishNY 1 year ago
@TrishtheDishNY no its about when he died and they dont know whether its a box(coffin) or a bag(body bag)
lilhunter54 1 year ago
@lilhunter54 yup, thanks. i got that some time after i posted my comment. :D
TrishtheDishNY 1 year ago
its great that this video version is here because i never would have known the real lyrics.. and I am a fan. sad
tamudamu1991 1 year ago
1:16 I know where a whale had a box on her back
DuctapePenguin 1 year ago
I love this song soooooo much
ICEMANdrake214 1 year ago
God these lyrics are stupid
timslucky 1 year ago
This is the most played song by PJ and didnt need a music video just to make this a hit. I like the 90's PJ than thousands.
wefi02 1 year ago
Unsealed on a porch a letter sat
Then you said I wanna leave it again
Once I saw her on a beach of weathered sand
And on the sand I wanna leave it again yeah
On a weekend I wanna wish it all away yeah
And I called and I said that I want what I said 6
davelanger 1 year ago
Then I call out again
And the reason oughta leave her calm I know
I said, I know what I wear not the box or the bag
Ah yeah can you see them Out on the porch
Yeah but they don't wave
I see them, round the front way yeah
And I know that I know I don't want to stay
davelanger 1 year ago
Make me cry
I see I dont know that there's something else
I wanna go my own a-way
I said, I don't, I don't know whether theres a box or the bag
Oh yeah, can you see them
Out on the porch yeah, but they don't wave
I see them round the front way yeah
And I know and I know I don't wanna stay at all
I don't wanna stay yeah x 3
No, I wanna go home, yeah
davelanger 1 year ago
almost got the lyrics right...
reznorected 2 years ago
i think that it is said box or a bag...meaning that the death was clean and left whole or that it was bad and in parts...
favthings 2 years ago
no i think the lyrics are right. He says a boxer or the bag.
In other words imagine a boxer preparing for a fight. He's not sure if he's the boxer, throwing the punches, or the bag, recieving all the pain
At least thats how I see it
MetallicaFan349 1 year ago 2
i love it!!
lexiyo091 2 years ago
I would also like to add that the band said in the early 90s the song was about Huddie Ledbetter and a picture of a group of people from the south sitting on a porch. Which is why I also don't put much stock in the claim related.
PhoenixRains 2 years ago
I would not put much stock in this eddie's explanation. As the military doesn't send letters to notify the next of kin that their relative is deceased. Vietnam saw the end of the telegram. During the gulf war family members were notified by a small group of service members. Also, there is no Ledbetter listed as KIA in the first gulf war which also doesn't support eddie's claim. I understand that it may be a half brother with a different last name but doub it.
PhoenixRains 2 years ago
wow read the info on this. Very interesting.
jawdrop1 2 years ago
i like misheard lyrics its funny....
journey6869 2 years ago 2
The drummer's kids go to my school (:
My sister has met him and talked to him many times
He signed my bros guitar
I <3 Pearl Jam!
KhloeLuvsMJ 2 years ago 2
Like Matt Camerons kids? Cuz hes more famous from soundgarden
jofussdean 2 years ago
u serious !!!!!!!!!
webtvqld 2 years ago
this is easily in pearl jam's top ten songs
wsox1705 2 years ago 8
@wsox1705 Perhaps. The music is great, but the lyrics need help. Although it does sound a lot like a Jimmy Hendrix ballad like Little Wing of Angel.
MetalliKatman 10 months ago
I give it a ten, a mutha-fukkin-ten
bennycoaster 2 years ago 3
this one is right but the one by misheardlyricsguy is hallarious
smigio111188 2 years ago 20
@smigio111188 Yeah I have to say, even thought this may have deep meaning to Eddie Vedder, his lyric writing is really bad on this song, and I am a Pearl Jam fan. There's just too much bad grammar, and repetitiveness on this song. I'll stick with the misheardlyricsguy lyrics. They make more sense!
MetalliKatman 10 months ago 2
@smigio111188
Potato Wave
llaaragon 5 months ago
YOU ROCK EDDY
jonlord77 2 years ago
YOU ROCK EDDY, KEEP WRITING PLEASE.
jonlord77 2 years ago
que importan las palabras y el idioma lo importante es lo que esta cancion nos hace sentir solo hay que dar gracias a sus creadores y punto
jazzie0001 2 years ago
love it
ialysia1617 2 years ago
And Vedder is still not telling the truth about this song. It most definantly has to do with Ole ledbetter the blues player and Curt Cobain and "not wanting to stay"
LeagueOJustice 2 years ago
Wow... just wow. You truly are a retard.
HanzoGEAR 2 years ago
I 'gree
jofussdean 2 years ago
I forgot one thing foxhound.....get your fucking hearing checked....scat......what an idiot.
stonefly123 2 years ago
if your going to insult someone at least make sense about it....sad little person
foxhound9673 2 years ago
It is almost right, but the fact is its "in a box or a bag"....talking about soldiers dying in war its what the whole song is about. A letter on the porch, men coming to the door, I want what I want(my kids life back)...wake the fuck up people.....this shit is propagated by your government! War means politicians make money, we citizens have no special interest groups we have no lobbiests lining our pockets in green, and pretty soon we wont have insurance either!!! Wake the fuck up!!!!!
stonefly123 2 years ago
when are you morons gonna figure out he's scat singing through this entire song???....my god.....there are no lyrics......unbelievable
foxhound9673 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about? Just because there aren't concrete lyrics for it, doesn't mean there aren't words. He sings it different a lot (every time I've seen them live). This is one of the first songs they wrote as a band. It has a meaning and there are words, just maybe not sang the same every time.
snakous 2 years ago
.....google scat singing then reply with an intelligent reponse
foxhound9673 2 years ago
I understand that scat doesn't mean that there are NO words. I just wouldn't go as far to say it's scat singing. In your response you said, "there are no lyrics." What do you call the words that he is singing? Whether they change or not, they're still lyrics and typically follow the same general structure.
snakous 2 years ago
in the first 10 seconds of this video it says "These are the actual lyrics".........scat singing is not a written down lyrical idea...its scat singing....there are no official lyrics......damn you people will argue about anything as long as you think your right
foxhound9673 2 years ago
Like what you've been doing? LMAO the hypocrisy... it's too deep... I'm drowning.. someone please help
HanzoGEAR 2 years ago
that was sad....epic reply fail.....
foxhound9673 2 years ago
I know this is gonna shock your ego a bit bud, seeing as you're so obviously self-absorbed, but just because you say something doesn't make it true. What's even funnier is that in a roundabout way, you just proved my point(that you're a hypocrite when you call others out on arguing about anything as long as you think you are right). I should thank you for that, as it provided me with a bit of amusement in an other-wise boring morning.
HanzoGEAR 2 years ago 2
i dont have an ego. and im fairly sure that this thread didnt involve you till you made yourself involved...speaking of ego's. Love you morons who think you can just jump into other people conversations and pick a fight....sad....sad people
foxhound9673 2 years ago
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fuck you
googoplexable 2 years ago
nice.....interjecting your wonderful commentary.....lmao.....nothing bad about my mother???....lmao...moron
foxhound9673 2 years ago
just listen to the song and smoke a joint,fuck all this hate,grow up people.
mdelair420 2 years ago 4
Amen brother
keckeye1979 2 years ago
Cracking song.
Deathbringer41 2 years ago
there songs where always best when Eddie was drinking i love the first 4 cds
mortalexacutor 2 years ago
Parts of this are right, but the band has never officially released the full lyrics. Either way great song. Don't know why he just won't tell us the lyrics...
hwoodyard 2 years ago
thanks for posting, my friend...this certainly answers a LOT of questions.
Much Love
phunkjunkie68 2 years ago
i just love this..just listening to it is so fkn special..
foreverashcroft 2 years ago
hey marcturner999- honorable mention! good turn. much appreciated, as well! thank you.
DONNANDMARY 2 years ago
Nope. Make me fries. lol
orangequartermusic 2 years ago
The song is about a soldier bringing the family members a letter saying that their loved one is dead due to combat. and he singing from the soldier delevering the the letter perspective
dave42444 2 years ago
He DOES NOT say "I don't know whether Im the boxer or the bag". He is talking about someones brother coming home from war in either a box or a bag. He is just mumbling and it sounds like that
waitdontshoot 2 years ago
yes he does say that! because the solder isn't sure if he's if he's the boxer meaning he the one delivering the blow of bad news or if he's the bag because he feels so bad for delivering the message like he's the one taking the blow
dave42444 2 years ago
glad i read that. thank you for leaving this comment :)
StoneChild9 2 years ago
I have damn near developed a complex over the last 10+ years trying to figure out what the hell EDDIE is talkin about!......NOW I KNOW!!!!! I need a beer!
92superunknown 2 years ago 4
HAHA shit man, ten plus years...i hope you had at least that many beers to celebrate lol!
StoneChild9 2 years ago
omg that's what they r saying damn! lol
catoyoyo 2 years ago
i dont know wether im the boxer or the bag, he doesnt know if he is beating up on people or they are beating on him.
Bigpoppy1993 2 years ago
Thank you! I've been listening to this song for god knows how long now & have NEVER been able to figure out what he's saying or what it's about
damhellass 2 years ago
Nice job on the "more info" section...Never knew that about the song. Thanks!!!
honeydooda 2 years ago 2
loo,thiz iz wanna da bez banz owd der so wy iz zum kumplayinh,day rawck!
762sd 2 years ago
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maybe the singer should get the cock out of his mouth and learn how to talk.
WC9456 2 years ago
you are an asshole. get a life
TookieGenesis 2 years ago
I don't see why i need to get a life. i was putting out my valid opinion on how the singer needs to enunciate his words better.
WC9456 2 years ago
you've got a funny way of showing it
TookieGenesis 2 years ago 2
I think it's I don't wanna wait on an box or a bag. It's what it sounds like to me and if it's an anti gulf war song it would make sense, waiting on a box (coffin) or a bag (body bag).
imroach83 2 years ago 5
Thank you so much for the lyrics & backstory. I loved the song without knowing what the hell Eddie was saying, but now I'm able to love it that much more. BRING OUR MEN & WOMEN HOME!!!!
LebowskiLuva 2 years ago
Can't you see them out on the port.
I don't want a whale in a box or bag.
cdgt1 2 years ago
Great song, One of my faves.
joewar420 2 years ago
nah i still don't think they're right,there're still some bits in that that don't match up
RowanFitz 2 years ago
the misheard lyrics are better.
nattynat78 2 years ago
great song
Redbullgiveswgs11 2 years ago
great job dude
cashman534 2 years ago
Excellent job translating. But, I have to agree with amundra3494 I think it is in a "box or a bag". Thanks for making that video. 50 year-old Pearl Jam fan.
vhsdevil 2 years ago
Make me fries....
garageink74 2 years ago
Thank you so much for doing this. I love Pearl Jam, and I loved this song before knowing the heck he was saying - anyway, this is great, I really enjoy reading lyrics while listening to Pearl Jam's songs! Loooooove me some Eddie!
allcurls6 2 years ago
right on thanks for the info
neranm 2 years ago
Potato wave.
namdlefhtes 2 years ago
On a wizard on a whale.
RJcur 2 years ago
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erjifo 2 years ago
he definitely says "I don't know whether there's a box or a bag". Don't know whether I'm the boxer or a bag is cool though. Maybe there are no lyrics, just an idea. Stipe did that. His band said that he never wrote anything down and they never knew what he was gonna sing. If this song is about a dead soldier, the imagery is quite vivid.
elbradamontes 3 years ago
It's definitely "box or a bag," not "boxer in the bag"
AvsGirl66 3 years ago
boxer or the bag
tra1031 2 years ago
no it isnt, he says "I dont know whether im the boxer or the bag" As in: a sports boxer or the punching bag. It makes sense, "box or a bag" doesnt
jacknife10000 2 years ago
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AvsGirl66 2 years ago
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Um, yes it does, when you think about how a dead soldier's body is shipped home from a war..."in a box or a bag." This song is about war veterans who have been discarded and disrespected by society. It has nothing to do with boxing.
AvsGirl66 2 years ago
They dont ship bodies home in bags from war. He says I dont know whether Im a boxer or the bag, not as a boxing reference but as in he doesnt know if hes doing the beating or if hes being beaten up
jacknife10000 2 years ago
Best arguement yet. no shit. beaten or beating? nothing can ruin this song 4 me. some understanding makes it better.
HIONHELIUM 2 years ago
I always thought that it was in a "box or in a bag" because the guy knew his brother was dead so he would come home in a casket or a bodybag. But that's just what i thought
amundra3494 2 years ago
given the subject, I would have to say you are correct.
intoxicated12gauge 2 years ago
its stupid
riversavalon 3 years ago
fuck you
marcturner999 3 years ago 2
@riversavalon how dare you insult pearl jam..
kickinyounow 1 year ago
a yellow ledbetter is a letter sent to a family of a dead soldier, ex. unopened..
YinYang931 3 years ago
its actually" i dont want to SAY make me cry"
ctrain149 3 years ago
definitely not... Anyways, they are awesome, he does that all the time, that´s why they are great!!!
igorfreerider 3 years ago
These are not the real lyrics! There are no real lyrics. Eddie was just saying what came to mind. He changes it up all the time.
Nothingman54 3 years ago
the song is great
warzombie12 3 years ago 3
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one of there best songs!!!
noahgreen12 3 years ago
THIS SONG WAS ABOUT EDDIE VEDDERS FRIEND, TIM LEDBETTER!~ Some live versions he does sing a couple of different lyrics.."On the wayside I'd like to wish this war away I tried but it just don't happen that way"....I think of him when I go to bed, and he's coming home in a box or a bag" This song is played at every Pearl Jam concert. It's usually the last song. Sometimes Eddie will say.."In a period of war, we will sing songs that speak about the importance of peace"
kayrock421 3 years ago 6
This song is written about Eddie Vedders friend, TIM LEDBETTER, who went off to THE PERSIAN GULF WAR. So in the lyrics of this song..."i don't whether Im a boxer or a bar"...IT ACTUALLY IS..."i don't know whether it's a box or a bag" In some of the live versions he also sings..."And my brother...they sent off to fight for the flag, I just, I don't hope he comes home in a box or a bag"
kayrock421 3 years ago 5
dude is this the actual lyrics????
shicklebob 3 years ago 3