Third force?? LOL, Like the 5 or so white individuals, thus far identified, who apparently managed to mobilize tens of thousands of Zulu warriors to cause trouble with the ANC.
Sure if anyone want to believe that is possible they should be scared of these amazing white Boere with their extraordinary persuasive powers.
But jokes aside, this is the kind of talk that will convince ignorant idiots that it is the white peoples fault.
I guess most investors may have feared a civil war was possible during or soon after the elections. I myself kept my options open by stocking up on bullets, just in case.
I still believe it was Mandela's persona that prevented any shit after the elections.
Lets just hope SA doesn't loose it now. Now more than ever, it is possible to spiral out of control. Just need one dipshit to make it a black/white thing.
1994 the amount of ammo sold must have been absurd!!!! a few years after that I had the choice of a CZ 83 or a plane ticket.
Sadly here you have to do a psycho-metrics test before you get a gun... you know what, they turned down my application just because I was pathologically violent :-) Lol
I don't fully know the story behind handing arms back in SA. The interesting thing I have heard has been rumours of the ownership records being destroyed.
Problem is you hand in your firearm and it will land on the street in the hands of a criminal within days.
I saw a criminology report indicating the level of criminality within the police force. It's beyond belief.
Interesting what is happening to the 32 Battalion Vets. The government wants to relocate them (moreover break the entire community up into pieces, and scatter it around SA), when governments do things like this it is down to one thing: FEAR!
I see now they are still going on about "Third Force" again - that term brings back memories.
0.5% of GDP but with an increase of 26% exports in the late 1980's
The stats depend on how they are gathered naturally. If you exclude oil on the basis of being a world wide phenomenon, it becomes very very low. If you include everything including Chase (who were only protecting their investors) it would result in us whites being at most 10% poorer...
In the end no-one can state it as a reason without some very serious doubt.
SA also wrote the book on sanctions busting, transhipments and you name it.
But comparing the kind of sanctions against Bob M and Saddam we came off lightly. Its all about the coldwar and its allies at the end :-)
Also interesting to note that after sports and cultural sanctions were dropped by 1991, it seemed the investors stayed out until well after the elections. South Africa was a risky investment, perhaps still is in some ways.
Yes, recently the WALL STREET JOURNAL, had a story about Trevor Manual. He is considered by many to be one of the best Finance Ministers on the world stage today.
(WALL STREET JOURNAL is a nationwide newspaper/online publication in USA. It is not a journal for only one street as it's name may imply to those outside USA)
Third force?? LOL, Like the 5 or so white individuals, thus far identified, who apparently managed to mobilize tens of thousands of Zulu warriors to cause trouble with the ANC.
Sure if anyone want to believe that is possible they should be scared of these amazing white Boere with their extraordinary persuasive powers.
But jokes aside, this is the kind of talk that will convince ignorant idiots that it is the white peoples fault.
cookeladoo 3 years ago
I guess most investors may have feared a civil war was possible during or soon after the elections. I myself kept my options open by stocking up on bullets, just in case.
I still believe it was Mandela's persona that prevented any shit after the elections.
Lets just hope SA doesn't loose it now. Now more than ever, it is possible to spiral out of control. Just need one dipshit to make it a black/white thing.
cookeladoo 3 years ago
A dipshit like JZ :-(
1994 the amount of ammo sold must have been absurd!!!! a few years after that I had the choice of a CZ 83 or a plane ticket.
Sadly here you have to do a psycho-metrics test before you get a gun... you know what, they turned down my application just because I was pathologically violent :-) Lol
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed"
Second Amendment to US Constitution.
This is part of what is called "The Bill of Rights"
Self Defense is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT. It must be chilling to live in SA, and be told by "the state" to hand in your firearms.
To me, a "gun license" sounds like a "free speech license". If it is licensed, it not a "Right"........
CZ (also known as Brno) makes VERY good firearms...
SierraWolf 3 years ago
I don't fully know the story behind handing arms back in SA. The interesting thing I have heard has been rumours of the ownership records being destroyed.
Problem is you hand in your firearm and it will land on the street in the hands of a criminal within days.
I saw a criminology report indicating the level of criminality within the police force. It's beyond belief.
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
Interesting what is happening to the 32 Battalion Vets. The government wants to relocate them (moreover break the entire community up into pieces, and scatter it around SA), when governments do things like this it is down to one thing: FEAR!
I see now they are still going on about "Third Force" again - that term brings back memories.
Thank god for the second amendment!
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
Hehehe, ANC Govt did not get hold of me for relocation yet.
Many reserves scattered around the world, ready to go back whenever needed. They can try and scatter as much as they like.
cookeladoo 3 years ago
In SA, owning a gun is as important as having insurance. Don't want to use it but be screwed without it.
cookeladoo 3 years ago
You're an animal after all.
:)
cookeladoo 3 years ago
oh yes... sadly I'm limited to biting, scratching and pissing on things :-)
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
Very informative. Reflects my own suspecions, I am however surprised by the small effect you mentioned (26%?) or something.
Any way, another interesting video.
keep them up
cookeladoo 3 years ago
0.5% of GDP but with an increase of 26% exports in the late 1980's
The stats depend on how they are gathered naturally. If you exclude oil on the basis of being a world wide phenomenon, it becomes very very low. If you include everything including Chase (who were only protecting their investors) it would result in us whites being at most 10% poorer...
In the end no-one can state it as a reason without some very serious doubt.
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
SA also wrote the book on sanctions busting, transhipments and you name it.
But comparing the kind of sanctions against Bob M and Saddam we came off lightly. Its all about the coldwar and its allies at the end :-)
Also interesting to note that after sports and cultural sanctions were dropped by 1991, it seemed the investors stayed out until well after the elections. South Africa was a risky investment, perhaps still is in some ways.
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
Interesting.
SierraWolf 3 years ago
Strangely enough I have to admit that Trevor Manual perhaps has done a better job with the economy then the Nats did.
Though I have spotted a worrying anomaly in the SA economy lately...
steamingweasel0 3 years ago
Yes, recently the WALL STREET JOURNAL, had a story about Trevor Manual. He is considered by many to be one of the best Finance Ministers on the world stage today.
(WALL STREET JOURNAL is a nationwide newspaper/online publication in USA. It is not a journal for only one street as it's name may imply to those outside USA)
SierraWolf 3 years ago
Ja... Wallstreet, FT and Economist are excellent!
Begrudgingly there were a few in the ANC I liked: Tokyo Sexwale being one of them. Problem is he got Mbeki'd and then Zuma'd recently.
steamingweasel0 3 years ago