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  • How about applying the parking brake in 4low. That would afford the LSD the little bit of resistance it needs to function.

  • @59summerset that wears your brakes prematurely why would you wanna do that instead of spending a little bit more money and get a truck with a locker

  • hahaha should have bought that locker you said you would never need hahahahah!!!!!!! PS i could have done all that i seen you do in 2WD hahah it sure is a FAIL

  • LSD was your problem yank that shit out and install a LOCKER no replacement for a LOCKER

  • as many other people said put a little drag on it with either the brake pedal or E brake. your diff is working like it should

    

  • Sometimes applying your hand brake a little bit while your wheels are spinning will help your rear limited slip work better. This is the case with helical type limited slips.

  • That truck looks fuckin bad! I want it!

  • holding the brake petal down slightly while giving it a little gas slows down the spinning wheel that has no traction, and in turn sends power to the wheel with more traction. i used this trick with 4x4 ATV's that dont have a front locker.

  • limited slip doesnt apply to this when your flexed like that. you need lockers

  • WOW...who is the model at 1.29??? Very...very nice.

    Ok...a trick with a FORD 10.50 lsd...is to gently apply the brake when the rear does not hook up. Helps slow the no traction tire...and shift power. Take care...and LOVING the videos!

  • I would hope an LSD would work a little better then that. Maby its just a light duty LSD or you need more RPM. The new Traction Control system paired with the one wheel spin control should have got you out no problem. Or a locker for that matter.

  • @yellowcow13 and LSD is just like an open but with clutches and springs to help out just a little other than that there is no difference between an open and a LSD no replacement for a LOCKER my friend

  • @trx420fm1 I know it well. No replacement for a locker.

  • Its a ford what more can you say.

  • Limited slip differentials works that way. If you need power on the rear wheels on that particular situation, tapping slightly the brakes or e-break will force the rear end to change the power to the left wheel. Your FORD is working properly.

    Peace!

  • @ruizhernandeztrustfi or it is easyier to just get a truck with a locker damn who wants to do all that bullshit to cross a ditch WOW this room is full of dumbasses

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  • @ruizhernandeztrustfi

    LOL!

    I meant WASN'T

    hahahahaha!

  • @trx420fm1

    LOL!

    I meant WASN'T

    hahahahaha!

  • this is a fail. why wouldnt ford just put a locker in the back like gm does. limited slips are not good for off roading

  • This is not a fail!

    The right rear wheel is on the air, and the lsd can not give torque to the left, because it can not works the lsd. It need a little bit of resistance.

    If the right wheel just licked the the ground and spin -in this situation it has resistance the differential- and it will work like lsd-and it be given move to the left.

    So, this is not a problem.

    My Hilux does the same

  • all you need in situation like this is little tap on brake on handbrake

  • the problem is circled on the front of the truck.

  • Trade it for the new GMC.

  • LSDs do not last for ever the clutch packs in the diffs do need to me serviced and changed if the wear is bad. And that truck should have a locker you just gotta hit the magic button

  • its a lsd not a lokka, what do you expect?

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  • press the brake and gas your be out easy

  • If that is your wife posing in that picture she is HOT 

  • Shuda got a chevy

  • I agree, those tires are sweet. Get up on the brake like you're gonna do a burnout. It helps Re-Distribute the the torque. It helps sometimes, but all in all, it's nothing like having lockers.

  • try locking the hubs on the front axle?

  • LIMITED SLIP means just that... once you remove 1 wheel off the ground its only going to send power to 1 wheel ur just a tard that doesnt know wtf they are talking about

  • They come in stick shift?

  • @ToFlatOut Yes, the 2008-2010 were available with the ZF6 manual shift 6-speed transmission.

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  • random statement...i was watching a chevy vs ford flex test, the ford flexed like crazy when it was teetering on two wheels like at 1:16 and 1:32 ,The chevy did way better. But in this video i notice the frame did not twist nearly as much as shown in the test...i wonder if a few cross members we removed from the ford before the test was done.

  • What year is this man?

  • @igotstherm The truck is a 2009 model year

  • Aren't the front wheels supposed to have auto locking hubs to get posi or not

  • @jedwilson95 The front wheels have locking hubs, yes. The locking hubs, however, are not a traction aiding mechanism like a limited slip or positive locking differential. The hubs simply connect the wheel, tire,and brake package to the axle shaft.

  • @seminaryranger Brake package? Ok so how come on some videos I would see one front tire spinning and the one not spinning kicks in?

  • Wow i didn't realize they still sold these trucks with manuals.

  • @op3l heck yeah they did, through the 2010 model year. Manual transmissions were a rare find, and many with them had to special order.

  • @seminaryranger Congrats on your find, awesome truck!

  • The LSD isn't available in the standard 4x4 off road. If you have the Fx4 package then you wouldn't of been stuck.

  • @Dieselboy350 The limited slip was available with many drive configurations for the 2008-2010 model year. If you selected the "4x4 Off Road" package on the option sheet, in addition to the Rancho shocks and skid plates you also got the limited slip differential. The "FX4 Off Road" package for 2008 and 2009 was it's own trim level in the Super Duty getting a body-colored grill in place of the chrome, nicer chrome-ringed dash gauges, different seat cloth, and you guessed it, the same limited slip.

  • Do you know how to drive?

  • You got the 6.4?

  • that's bad the rear tires couldn't just push it outta that little hole :/

  • @MCM5595 oh jk the back limited slip failed to...

  • 'Limited slip differential' is more of a marketing departing term than engineering one.

    Your rear 'LSD' is a torque sensitive one, and by your usage you are outside the torque bias range.

    What you need is a speed sensitive differential, front and rear.

    Unfortunately such a common sense item isn't offered by the 'big 3', or the aftermarket.

  • @SparkDischarge Thanks for the glimpse of clarity on what traction aiding differentials. Marketing and cultural nonsense is rampant out there.

  • nice truck

  • Maybe its the trucks sense of self preservation, you were, after all, driving towards a lake.

  • @mitsucanter247365 LoL! I love it!

  • a lock option would have been helpful. my Subaru has a driver control center differential. too bad i live in Texas where apparently it doesnt rain anymore. i really wanna take the subie out on some muddy trails in the rain.

  • a lock option would have been helpful. my Subaru has a driver control center differential. too bad i live in Texas where apparently it doesnt rain anymore. i really wanna take the subie out on some muddy trails in the rain

  • Buddy if you turned on TCS and gave it some gas in 4hi the traction control ought to have helped you out where the limited slip couldn't...

  • @59summerset The Super Duty of this ear was not available with brake-based traction control or as Ford calls it on their 2011 F150, "single wheel spin control." This year of Super Duty could get an optional engine based traction control, which was simply a ECU and ABS programming that cut engine power if the system sensed wheel spin. I don't think that would have helped here. I've experimented with systems like you describe and they work; this truck doesn't have that.

  • @seminaryranger ya all that doesn't work in 4low all of the trac systems deactivate in 4low there smokey!!!!!!!

  • @59summerset ya that's good what about 4low? the trac control deactivates in 4low then it would be useless then wouldn't it FAIL

  • i this eaton?

  • @stevenesio So Toyotas & Nissans all come with E-Lockers?

  • @malkowskitube not sure about Nissans,but the TRD Off-road toyotas are the only ones with lockers.

  • @Michaelxoz34 Chevy has had the g80 rear locker in their trucks for years. It works like a limited slip until one tire spins faster than the other, then it locks the two together for additional traction. It's a mechanical locker instead of an e-locker, but accomplishes the same thing!

  • @matrix5175 I know,i was just stating that I knew that the trd off-road toyotas had the lockers and i wasnt sure if nissan did. Some of the trds are mechanical and some are e-lockers.Im going to install an arb air locker sometime soon in my truck.I can stand the LSD!

  • @Michaelxoz34 Ok, gotcha. I hear that, LSD sucks. I can't believe that so many major car manufacturer's haven't offered a locker as a stock option until recently! I know personally though, the g80 locker in chevy/gmc vehicles is why I have driven them for so long. It's just a better 4x4 option!

  • you got the worst truck for 4x4ing.

  • You can' t blame the truck because of the name Ford, blame the dip shit that created the limited slip

  • @onionman113 fords the retard that put the shit diff in, just sayin

  • @matthatesford not really, Ford offers Locked axles too, so your comment is a FAIL

  • HEY those are sick tires you got!!!, They look like the Goodyear Wrangler, MT/R with the reinforced side walls, right? I got the exact same ones on my 93 F-350 :D

  • @AlVaRoLA1 Yep, the Wrangler MT/R Kevlar. LT285/75/18E

  • so fucking sad I bought a piece of garbage, this shit is leaking me oil in the front pulley from the main crank shaft, and I think the power steering is failing too.

    all they fucking do is beauty body finish and cheap fucking parts.

    soo fucking coincidenseit started giving me these problems after the powertrain warranty expiration.

  • :O manual transmission and gearbox? Nice.

  • @mic09dcsm09 Thanks. I special ordered it that way.

  • @seminaryranger haha got my F150 the same way, its sick

  • @seminaryranger is it petrol

  • Well you know the front of the truck has the problem circled... right?

  • I agree... Major Problem is its a FORD

  • ford? well theres ya problem!

  • shoulda gave me a call i would have pulled you out in my open dif Jeep! :)

  • My Subaru always gets out of this situation even in the snow.

  • I thought on a limited slip dif it evens the power to both tires why does this happen then?

  • i have those tires on my 01 f150! Love em

  • Your problem is obvious - F.O.R.D.

  • Why is it that no matter what you put up for a video of a vehicle somebody has to say it's a piece of shit and sucks and buy this buy that. If you hate them so much than why are you even watching the video. Just stick to "your brand" and shut the fuck up. Dumbasses.

  • The problem with limited slips is when you've got it articulated and there's a lot of pressure on one wheel it begins to spin only the easier one. But the reason for limited slip is it's much more off road friendly than an open carrier, but much more road friendly than a locker. Electric or air lockers are the best to keep something road friendly. I have lunchbox lockers front and rear on my jeep, 2wd on road the back hops in the corners a bit, 4x4 it's virtually undrivable on pavement.

  • That truck does not articulate very much.

  • FORD HAS A NICE LOOKING TRUCK BUT CANT MAKE A GOOD TRUCK.

  • @elitecssplayer Yeah, that's why the F-150 has been the best-selling truck for 35 years right?

  • @mexmiler : Im not sure why exactly? I knwo the old ford are a damn good truck but the new ones are 'crap' I think, poorly made. FORD uses cheap material in order to save money and make more at the same time where as Chevy and Doge do not.

  • u know those chevys have those Eaton Locking diffs... when you get to a certain RPM it locks and both tires will spin!!!!

  • Well, I have LSD in my Pajero (I, short, 1990) and so far it has never failed me. Mud, rocks, water, steps, up-hils, sand...just awesome. Locks automatically when I'm in need for it, and turns-off on it's own when I'm done. And it doesn't matter if it's 4H or 4L. As long as 4 wheel drive is on, it works - both front and rear.

  • Ford sucks balls nough said.

  • Hey buddy three words get a Dodge

  • @DodgeRam224 A Dodge with a Limited slip would have done the same. So why get a Dodge?

  • its a ford what eles is there to say? lol

  • I have never seen anyone purposely get themselves struck. Until now. Hmm.

  • somebody needs posi!!!

  • What if you left it in 4 high and then maybe the brake traction control would take over and pull it off the crest? just a thought...

  • I have to floor my tundra for the shit LSD to kick in, then when it grabs i freakin launch forward and most of the time thats not what you want to do. LSD's fuckin swallow.

  • I got stuck in a similar way with my '05. I could not go forward and had back out, using brake modulation and ratchet straps, ended up twisting off the splined portion of my front pinion shaft. Luckily Ford fixed under warranty. But if I had a locker to begin with it would have never happened.

  • I got stuck in a similar way with my '05. I could not go forward and had back out, using brake modulation and ratchet straps, ended up twisting off the splined portion of my front pinion shaft. Luckily Ford fixed under warranty. But if I had a locker to begin with it would have never happened.

  • most 4 wheel drive cars have 2.0 differentials in the back. and 1.5 in the front.. so what the hell is going on.

  • Thats for getting a Sack of Shit Ford.

  • Car sucks..

  • Man that sucks. I saw a Honda CRV doing the same thing in some snow. 1 front tire spins, 1 back tire spins, thing still stuck in snow. Still better than my car, but come on. They could do better if they really tried.

  • if you want it to lock you can not have it in low gear, you need to just have it in first gear, i had the same problem

  • I buy American, because I like projects.

  • Its a ford its a peice of crap fords suck

  • download an app on your iphone, they can do Anything

  • try to rest the truck when u do that your post to have it in N then put i in 4 wheel drive.

  • only the automatic are 4 wheel drive

  • What can I say it's a ford :p

  • cough...cough.....FORDS BLOW.......cough

  • Get a Land Rover and feel happy about it.

  • Your LSD clutch packs are worn out. Also, use the parking brake, 4wd noob.

  • @jb12321 im a motorcycle and car guy jus gettin in2 off-roadin plz explain what u mean in this comment GM FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Well, I'll give ya a couple hints.

    1) apply the parking brake. :)

    2) if you think you can do it, brake modulation also works. ;)

  • @l337pwnage Those are good hints at helping redistribute torque to a stationary tire. I've tried it a number of times, and I can say it helps, but not always. Good hint though.

  • Do yourself a favor. Buy a range rover.

  • @monologuh They want a truck, not a car.

  • nice truck man! wat kind of tires are on it?

  • front and rear lockers would make this truck unstopable! you would have to find a new place to wheel because the farm wouldnt cut it anymore! lol

  • driver error plus that truck aint ment to go 4wheelin any way

  • its the same with the landrover defender in the snow and mud. you get stuck all the time...

  • Chevy with G80 lockers does better !

  • So what is the diff between LSD and Open differential.. They both seem to spin like this video ?

  • @1ownjoo2 lsd= limited slip which is one tire will only spin for so long then other will engauge... open diff only one tire spins

  • @Tj1056

    Ok but if thats how its suppose to work then why is it spinning in this video? I've seen so many video's now where the LSD doesnt seem to work when the tires are on rollers..

    Altho i did see one video where the put the trucks on a wet tiles and the the LSD seemed to kick in.. Maybe LSD only works when the spinning tire has a tiny bit of traction otherwise it gets confused ?

    Im just wondering because my 5.9 Grand Cherokee has a LSD in the rear, and open in the front

  • @1ownjoo2 needs more power as you can see at one point on the video the back tire almost wants to spin... kind of like my titan it has lsd but the other rear tire does not wanna spin till the other has a few

  • @1ownjoo2 He is wrong, that is not how LSD's work. Some lockers work that way, tho, like the G80.

    In that truck, it most likely has a clutch pack in the spider gears which resist the open differential action. They can apply up to 30% of the power to one wheel, but not 100% like a locker. I may be off on the percentages, but you get the idea.

    Wiki covers it pretty good also.

    If you drain the lube, then add lube WITHOUT the LSD additive, it acts like a locker, until it breaks. ;)

  • @etherialcruiser I like the Eaton G80 "Gov-Loc" as well. It at least has the capability to lock the axle shafts together for maximum traction. I'm a Ford guy, but I can admit the Ford limited slip is pretty pathetic off road.

  • thats an open diffrential

  • @Sonicku No, it it limited slip. It's just showing the ugly truth of the limited slip- it cannot truly lock the axle shafts together in many off road situations

  • What kind of tires are those you got on there?

  • @danraich look like Goodyear MTR i agree CHEVY with a G80 woulda gotten out of a lot of that, go ELOCKER though no air to mess with

  • @johnson200gw Yes, the G80 would have locked and pulled over that berm. I've done it many times in a similar Chevy pickup. It spins just like the Ford then, BANG, it locks the axle, and then move forward. 

  • @danraich LT285/75/18E Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar

  • another problem is that trucks dont have enough weight on the bed and so its easy o loose traction back there...in some cases

  • I see the problem, its a ford.

  • F-250 = Fail 250

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  • dude when you are stuck dont put it in low range put it in 4H cause all low range does is give it lower gears in the t case

  • @j6983455

    which gives you torque...which is what you need to get out

  • @SALCarniveau his dif is slipping torque doesnt matter if its not grabbing onto anything

  • @j6983455 4H doesnt help there either does it? i get once the frame touches the ground its over you either need a good winch or some one to pull you out, but usually when your stuck you want the tire to grab and pull/push with force you dont want to floor it cuz its just gona dig up

  • @SALCarniveau your right thats why it would be good to bring a buddy to jump up and down in the bed to off balance it lol..........but i still dont undestand why he would put it in 4L

  • @j6983455 I put it in 4-Low so that I could have a controlled wheelspeed to shoot the video. I knew I wasn't going anywhere, but if I were in 4-High and it suddenly decided to grab traction, I might not have been able to get control of the vehicle quick enough. Or, it might just have stalled it, lol!!!

  • @j6983455 I know. I just wanted to slow the wheels as much as I could to make the video of the differential slipping. Though it is good you bring that up. It's a pet peeve of mine when someone thinks that 4-Low means all four wheels spin, like it engages a locker or something! lol

  • @seminaryranger those trucks were availible with a locker rear just you didnt wanna pay for it, second if your land is giving the truck a run for its money put a detroit locker in, no limited slip is worth a damn limited slip open diff is just as useless in my book, my trucks built for real off road areas with a detroit rear and a full spool front, but then again im in a truck that was built back when trucks were really trucks lol

  • @j6983455 4H is for n00bs. High school kids do crap like that.

  • @j6983455 Not always right, ALOT of the time lorange is BETTER, MUCHHHH easyer on the trans, And you can still sping the SHIT out of them in 4lo,

  • lockers

  • hmmm,,, it seems ford circled the problem for you before you bought it.

    (the logo for you dummies that dont get it)

  • Nice truck!

    I think the limited slip is just not up to the task of getting that size of truck out of a situation like that.

    I went from an open diff to a limited in a bronco 2 and it was able to spin both on even surfaces like an icy road or in snow but get one wheel up in the air and it would spin like yours but you could feel a bit of pull, with a bit of brakes and gas I could get through or out of almost any place.

    An air locker is what you need if you wheel alot.

  • shouldve bought a chevy with a locker!

  • @chevyman8329 or a ford with a locker.

  • @powerstroker14 the new 2011 F250s with the electronic lockers are so sweet. I'd love to have that option!

  • it looks like your high centered.and in that situation the lsd is never going to work like that.and why do you think that lsd means that all four lock? i have had my ford in worse situations than that and the lsd has worked.but then of course ive never been high centered.

  • LSD's really are shit on most stock trucks.

    Not trying to start a war but chevys have the eaton G80 locking diff, which would have no trouble here.

    The only thing stock LSD's are really good for is sales in my opinion.

  • @dan0champ yes. This is why I posted the video- so that people can see that limited slips are NOT God's gift to the off road crowd. They belong on rear-drive cars and in sales brochures. Posi, lol

  • @seminaryranger That's why Ford's now come with electronic lockig differential's, the've had limited slip for years. I've never had problems with it thoe, my 2wd f-100 still goes through snow and mud just fine, along with my dad's 2000 f-250.

  • @seminaryranger Actually rock or hard sand will do that to chevy's too! Don't do it too long or you'll break the axle, it happened to my dad's old Z71.

  • @seminaryranger my lsd works okay for towing or pealing out. its okay in the snow but its deffinately not s good as a posi

  • @seminaryranger so with a LSD the power should go to the wheels that need more tourqe? so in your video it should have went to the back wheel as well?

  • @seminaryranger

    I dunno, if you knew this, but posis and limited slips are the same thing. However I will agree that the stock posis/lsds deserve to be paperweights. The Detroit TrueTrac is probably the best posi/lsd out there, IMHO.