@RyanSpencer83 Well, while Tony did go to Military Academy and is a streetsmart brawler, Ziva is a Mossad operative. I dunno if you know about the Mossad, but they're kinda badass. Also, she's lived with this kind of violence her whole life. Of course she would be better at kicking ass than Tony.
Don't get me wrong. I love Ziva, but I wish they would let Tony protect her for once... I am a girl and I know I love it when a guy stand up for his girl!
Although i agree that it would be sweet and totally heroic if tony defended ziva in a fight, i like the fact that the girl is the one that kicks ass and takes change and is not the damsel in distress. i mean, this is the 21st century why does the guy always have to defend his girl?
There's nothing wrong with it at all. The point being emphasized is that the writers could've made it look like both Tony and Ziva cleaning up the bar in their own ways just to prove that both precision athletes like Ziva and hard-scrabbled detectives like Tony can achieve the same results despite their differences in training. Plus, it's part of the appeal of the ever awesome Tiva chemistry. lol
@triplexxxsatyr i agree completely with this. im going crazy trying to figure out if they are secretly hooking up/going out. especially since (spoiler alert) when mike franks dies, and tony consoles her in the elevator? what are your thought?
Like Gibbs, they're bending Rules #12. They've gone out on several occasions as proven throughout Seasons 3 and 4. IMO, that would constitute a "date" but obviously they have impulse issues. It's falling in love that complicates it.
@triplexxxsatyr i agree completely with this. im going crazy trying to figure out if they are secretly hooking up/going out. especially since (spoiler alert) when mike franks dies, and tony consoles her in the elevator? what are your thought?
I think Tony is as tough as Ziva, but he is street hardened and fights to survive. Ziva is far more disciplined and she appears better in fights because she has been trained to quickly assess and break down fights, as they happen. She fights with logic and skill, as well as strength. ZIVA RULES
@DetectiveNigbone If you watch the full episode you'll find that this was a war game. Tony and Ziva are assigned to break into this facility to see whether it's vulnerable to break in from the bad guys. But this is done without the knowledge of both Tony and Ziva. But Gibbs knows that's why he asks them to stand down. That's why the guards don't shoot them. Because they are all on the same side.
You bitch ,,, how dare you hit ziva ,, did the guard hit tony in his eye with his gun ?? :( poor tony
crezza24 4 weeks ago 2
@RyanSpencer83 Well, while Tony did go to Military Academy and is a streetsmart brawler, Ziva is a Mossad operative. I dunno if you know about the Mossad, but they're kinda badass. Also, she's lived with this kind of violence her whole life. Of course she would be better at kicking ass than Tony.
nimechan 2 months ago
Don't get me wrong. I love Ziva, but I wish they would let Tony protect her for once... I am a girl and I know I love it when a guy stand up for his girl!
Kinzo12696 3 months ago
Although i agree that it would be sweet and totally heroic if tony defended ziva in a fight, i like the fact that the girl is the one that kicks ass and takes change and is not the damsel in distress. i mean, this is the 21st century why does the guy always have to defend his girl?
TheCaliforniagirl92 3 months ago
There's nothing wrong with it at all. The point being emphasized is that the writers could've made it look like both Tony and Ziva cleaning up the bar in their own ways just to prove that both precision athletes like Ziva and hard-scrabbled detectives like Tony can achieve the same results despite their differences in training. Plus, it's part of the appeal of the ever awesome Tiva chemistry. lol
triplexxxsatyr 3 months ago
@triplexxxsatyr i agree completely with this. im going crazy trying to figure out if they are secretly hooking up/going out. especially since (spoiler alert) when mike franks dies, and tony consoles her in the elevator? what are your thought?
TheCaliforniagirl92 3 months ago
Like Gibbs, they're bending Rules #12. They've gone out on several occasions as proven throughout Seasons 3 and 4. IMO, that would constitute a "date" but obviously they have impulse issues. It's falling in love that complicates it.
triplexxxsatyr 3 months ago
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@triplexxxsatyr i agree completely with this. im going crazy trying to figure out if they are secretly hooking up/going out. especially since (spoiler alert) when mike franks dies, and tony consoles her in the elevator? what are your thought?
TheCaliforniagirl92 3 months ago
Also why can't the girl be tougher than the guy?
laceylu95 4 months ago 3
I think Tony is as tough as Ziva, but he is street hardened and fights to survive. Ziva is far more disciplined and she appears better in fights because she has been trained to quickly assess and break down fights, as they happen. She fights with logic and skill, as well as strength. ZIVA RULES
laceylu95 4 months ago 6
@RyanSpencer83 Well she DOES have insane Mossad fighting skills......
MsTwilight411 5 months ago
which episode and series is this from?
cuteXasXaXcupcake 6 months ago
fuck that army bitch
pillz4you 6 months ago
Word. I was disappointed as well. They did it again in S7's "Faith" in the 'redthroats' bar fight scene.
Tony's a streetsmart brawler; he can handle baddies on his own very well.
triplexxxsatyr 7 months ago 14
i got really annoyed with that lady that ziva kicked! she really pissed me off! she hit ZIVA!
yesiamkish 7 months ago
I love how every guard is trying to stab with their gun instead of shooting how dumb
DetectiveNigbone 8 months ago
@DetectiveNigbone If you watch the full episode you'll find that this was a war game. Tony and Ziva are assigned to break into this facility to see whether it's vulnerable to break in from the bad guys. But this is done without the knowledge of both Tony and Ziva. But Gibbs knows that's why he asks them to stand down. That's why the guards don't shoot them. Because they are all on the same side.
PadfootPatronus 7 months ago 2
@PadfootPatronus not any more a state of war is inacted
scouttroop291 5 months ago
At :013 Ziva had her revenge from that guy for Tony.
JustMeF12 8 months ago
how can she loose!!!!! holy cow!!!
coolbeans3579 10 months ago
Wow. First time Ziva lost!!! :O
homeandawaylover100 11 months ago
bahaha, I LOVE how you put Tiva, instead of Tony and Ziva!
seamonkey5267 1 year ago
:O Holy crap she lost!!!
minnor93 1 year ago