Washington (Major Ron Paul State) Moves To Suspend 2012 Presidential Primary!

[M1k4e]

RON PAUL NEEDS WA DELEGATES

[lemmyliquor]

We spend 1BILLION FEEDING MEXICAN CHILDREN SCHOOL LUNCH...! WHAT THE FUCK...?

[variablestatus]

Total of 30,496 votes - msnbc 9/12 GOP debate. polls closed after only 13 hours. Perry did so bad that msn put a "no clear winner" ballot in his vote place. Ron Paul 37.7% (11,483 votes) There was no clear winner 22.5% (6,866 votes) Mitt Romney 13.9% (4,229 votes) Newt Gingrich 7.5% (2,282 votes) Michele Bachmann 6.2% (1,889 votes) Herman Cain 4.4% (1,333 votes) Jon Huntsman 3.6% (1,108 votes) Tim Pawlenty 2.7% (822 votes) Rick Santorum 1.6% (484 votes)

[Higgs666]

I recently moved to Seattle, and I am just now finding this out. I'm writing my congressman tomorrow.

[1XMarksSpot]

LOL Now they're worried about money when they've spend like drunken sailors for years? Please. The real reason is because the politicians in Washington fear that Ron Paul can actually win the 2012 Presidential election and put an end to the reckless deficit spending of the politicians in Washington.

KICK THE POLITICIANS IN WASHINGTON OUT!!!

[buddybleau]

This is bullshit. Suppose all states decided to cancel the primaries? What the hell is this? Does this dipshit broad realize how important the primaries are? What damned school did she go to? Maybe she's dating Obummer.

[iamryun]

I am furious about this. I live in washington state, and have sent a petition, even though I'm sure they will cut it anyway. What a joke.

[jwka2001]

Ron Paul got 21% or something simliar like that percent during the 2008 primary... So this is why its being dropped

[snipzor]

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RON PAUL!

[erikwilliamson77]

great post. "liberalism is a mental disorder"

[kardentyrell]

kangaroo voting boxes :P

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 The GOP is FAR from Rand, the GOP is just a globalist puppet to Wall Street Banksters and the Rothschild banking cartel setting up a new world order. And they did not use capitalism to consolidate the wealth they have stolen because of these reasons: 1) they stole our wealth through means of central banking which is anti capitalistic 2) it wasn't voluntary, since capitalism is based of honest voluntary consent. 4) they used government force to gain power-special interest

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 that she believed in wielding a gun to your head to force you to not think that way, she said it is a personal issue, and as an individual you ultimately have the right to make a decision over that matter. It's your choice.

Tell me, what exactly do you have against Rand? I just don't understand why people loath her so much. What in your opinion is wrong with her?

*Btw, this is not an attack against you, this is just an honest discussion.

[LordoftheKaty]

@LordoftheKaty she didn't

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 So Rand was against the military industrial complex we have today and central banking, which is the root to the mega monopolies which have grown around it. She clearly lays out how all this works in Atlas Shrugged, like the Anti Dog Eat Dog Rule. And everything in her philosophy is based off voluntary consent, the purest libertarian belief there is. It has to be voluntary, cannot be forced, you cannot use force on people to enforce your ideas. Sure she wasn't religious, but that

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 a monopoly for the mega banks unnatural to a true capitalistic free market. Remember, Rand was for a complete separation of state and economics, like we have a separation of state and religion.

Now number 2) the GOP supports a neocon philosophy championed by Mark Levin, Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh to invade nations and use military force to spread our ideas, which is really imperialism. Ayn Rand was against this, she even claimed that our foreign policy is "a disgrace."

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 I think you've missed the point. What I am saying is that they do NOT act by her principles or teachings at all because of certain issues, number 1) the GOP like the Democratic party supports our dangerous and private central bank the Federal Reserve. As Mitt Romney claimed, who is adored by the GOP, having the Fed as an independent institution is crucial, he also claims that debating its credibility is irrelevant. Well Rand was against any form of central banking because it creates

[stabbed22]

This is astonishing...

[AFd3693]

Ron Paul 2012

[bbburton]

I suggest Wash. citizens embrace the caucus and get out there and participate. Either that, or let the neo-cons continue their monopoly of the political agenda.

[PQPRockford]

Another example of the demise of American democracy.

[06mustangCE]

our right to vote is our most important right in this country. don't fuck with it!

[sintruder]

Ron Paul or NONE OF THE ABOVE

[greyflcn]

@sintruder

Right, Ron Paul's answer for healthcare:

Assume FREE healthcare will be given to the poor and the elderly

Ron Paul's answer on monopoly/oligopoly:

They will self regulate, don't worry about them

Ron Paul's answer on income inequality:

Low Tax, Deregulated markets produce LESS income inequality

Ron Paul's answer on the French Revolution:

Let them Eat Cake.

[sintruder]

@greyflcn Who has the better answer? You don't seem to know much about Rep Paul. Government intervention is the answer for you. Real capitalism means no subsidies no bail outs all medical care the government or insurance isn't involved in prices go down with competition.

[greyflcn]

@sintruder

Except that your "real" capitalism hasn't ever existed.

There's always been special favors. There's always been unpaid liabilities.

Now if you want to talk about what's "real" what's real is that every other developed country in the world pays dramatically less than US citizens do, and get comparable or better results.

watch?v=Rq77LzLM0jw

If anything, the fact that health insurance is private makes it less efficient.

imgur (dot) com/xOLz6.png

[sintruder]

@greyflcn Do you know how to read? "All medical care the government or insurance ISN'T involved in prices go down with competition" "If anything, the fact that health insurance is private makes it less efficient" True along with the government both cause inefficiency. Real capitalism might not exist but it used to be a lot closer & Doctor Paul would want to bring it closer than it is now. You didn't answer my original question who would be better? Obama??

[greyflcn]

@sintruder

Well if we're picking favorites, I'd say Kucinich would certainly be better.

Ron Paul largely tries to pretend to be someone like Kuncinich, by rarely mentioning his policies that would be different from him.

For instance, Ron Paul hasn't said a damned word on the concept of corporations receiving constitutional rights.

And you rarely hear about his attempt to eliminate nearly all common law related to banning religious theocratic government.

[campaign4liberty]

Down with NWO tyranny!

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[WhiskeyBlade]

If it is up to a Caucus, this could be good for the organized Ron Paul supporters. I and my wife will be sure to attend ours to MAKE SURE that it his him and not a Rob-me or Chump, that is picked.



[EccoDelta]

Cutting on democracy, not that it exist in America anyways.

[bombnom]

?? Did they really say we are going to skip the election to save money?? I saw a report on TRMS last night that said that entire cities in Minnesota are being disolved. The Gov fires all the electted officials and sets up a stooge to take orders from the Gov. . I thought the Republicans were 4 SMALL goverment with more local control. AARRGH!!

So now the DEMs are starting wars and the REPs are growing BIG gov control. These parties are meaningless. We have 1 party...the Republicrats

[jag10]

silencing the truth

[Dedhedted71]

Everyone needs to withdraw every penny from every bank that exists! PERIOD!!!

[lumpfish99]

i dont understand america.....

[slewofdamascus]

Presedential elections are classic distractions. The candidates are pre-approved, their loyalty a collective "thanks". Simply observe how the executive branch has stepped-out since Kennedy was eliminated with a head shot in broad daylight. As the Libyan hypocrisy has aptly demonstrated, Congress - the most "representative" branch - is an afterthought to the executive, silent and consenting. There is the TV illusion of "democracy", however. Hannity and Maddow will dangle the compelling fiction...

[whoo689]

great... If this bill passes Washington voters will be stripped of their right to vote to help nominate someone from their party. Ugh wtf

[PostSurgeOperative]

@whoo689 Oh, FFS, no one is losing their right to vote! Party-affiliated voters will still have the right to caucus with their respective parties and they will be able to select the candidate of their choice. All that this bill would mean is that the STATE won't have to pay for the activities of political parties.

Since WRong Paul favors states' rights and less govt spending, I have no doubt that he will 100% approve of the decision of the Washington legislature.

LOL!

[RonPaulSwede]

@PostSurgeOperative

We understand you hate Ron Paul because he would make you loose your JOB as a war profiteer

War profiteers should be stripped from their US citizenship, can I get a THUMBS UP!?

[sx200ser]

why doesn't the federal government step in and pay states per votes cast any party both primary and the final election, if states want to fuck up there state or local elections go ahead. does that mean no primary for there reps in congress and senate that would mean listing everyone which almost is a given to the incumbent

[sethzky77]

@TheBlaspheemer Wanna be friends?

[sethzky77]

Moxy's slipping. I didn't hear a thing about ron paul. Put down the pipe for a sec.....

but the point is really that they're cutting choice down to two dickheads that scheme for the same agenda, so fuck both of them and the whores who are trying to enact it. It's time to quit bitching and do something already,,,,,,,,.......Freedom!

[MoxNewsDotCom]

@sethzky77

From my cold dead hands!

~MOXy

[sethzky77]

@MoxNewsDotCom Yeah, Red dawns a great movie man. Ha Ha. No but seriously. the time has come to either stand or split. I choose to stand, but what's going to be the spark? Seems like there's been a thousand sparks but the fire needs a few more logs. Peace man.

[MoxNewsDotCom]

@sethzky77 "what's going to be the spark?"

I'M DOING MY BEST!

"Red dawns a great movie"

I don't really know that movie, I'm quoting Charlton Heston :) ~MOXy

[sethzky77]

@MoxNewsDotCom I don't know what the sparks gonna be man, seems like there should be an inferno by now. But your right, that is a Charleton Heston movie. There's a similiar line in, 'Red Dawn' it's a 1980's movie with Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, and that girl from, 'Dirty Dancing', A cold war movie where russia actually invades america and a bunch of high school kids turn survivalist and patriots and reclaim their freedom in a crazy war in america. You should check it out. 'Wolverines'!

[Nothingizm]

@sethzky77 All he said is that Washington is a major Ron Paul state. learn to fucking read

[sethzky77]

@Nothingizm piss off dude.

[tdubz87]

@sethzky77 this has to do with WA State Ron Paul voters --- not everyone knows about this here

[LordoftheKaty]

@ratsnacage1 What is this supposed to prove? Btw, have you actually watched the entire interview she had with that man, where you actually hear her answers? I don't think you have. As for the GOP "claiming" to immolate her beliefs, total bullshit. I bet you didn't know this, but Ayn Rand claimed, and you can find the video of it on youtube, that modern day conservatives are dangerous because of their ideas for foreign policy, in fact she loathed our foreign policy, and against central banking

[safeinsuburbia]

Save even more money.  Cancel all elections. It's all rigged.

Get over it.

[truefictions]

We Ron Paul supporters have been making so much money on gold and silver, I think it wouldn't be a problem to pay the 10 million.. LMAO

Then again, fuck it, we might rather wait till the country goes bust and then build it up again from scratch.. Once the dollar implodes, the economic power will be on our side.

P.S. Don't think you can come steal the gold and silver.. remember, we support the second amendment.

The last to laugh will laugh hard and loud..

Peace

[gsuitter]

I would think that the candidate with the most informed, organized and dedicated supporters would come out on top in a caucus. To caucus is not as simple as pulling a lever or punching a card and leaving. Time and effort are involved. Something Ron Paul supporters have in abundance. They go the extra mile when others weary. This could win Dr. Paul the state.

[notyranny1]

You have no choice,  it is all an illusion. Get over it. ( Evil Laugh) /sarcasm

There is only a glimmer of hope that this will show the public what is really happening.

[truefictions]

Trillions in the budget and the first thing to go are voting rights?

These motherfuckers are really pushing it..

[oJKBo]

i dont get it....they could still vote for president......

[latlanticcityphil]

the game is being rig, just follow the money !

[PostSurgeOperative]

Defend FREEDOM! Defend LIBERTY!

RuPAUL, 2012!

[cfaz10]

@PostSurgeOperative yeah okay go blow some more lines and shoot babies

[kdavidmcd]

Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!! We REALLY need this guy as president.

[WHENDASHTF]

Ron Paul would easily win this state...another reason to boot this corrupt governor

[YaHuWaHservant]

Well at least they are being more open about controlling elections now.... that's progress

[YouSayYouWantA]

Crash the Caucuses!

[jackjillsean]

Ron Paul supporters to the caucuses.

They can just charge people to vote not only will they be able to defray the costs but also you'll then see who has real supporters

[1XMarksSpot]

@jackjillsean That's just stupid. Why should I need to pay to vote when it's a natural-born right? Stop proposing stupid ideas, especially in a down economy where money is scarce.

[BadSwineDOTcom]

Republicans locked out Ron Paul here.

These caucus systems up here are completely closed off, they are small exclusionary social clubs.

[PostSurgeOperative]

Oh, c'mon MOXy, what's the big deal? I'm sure WRong 'States Rights' Paul would approve!

ROTFLMAO!



[MoxNewsDotCom]

@PostSurgeOperative

Taking away the People's RIGHT to vote for those that are supposed to be representing them...?

I SERIOUSLY doubt Dr Ron Paul would be for that. ~MOXy

[PostSurgeOperative]

@MoxNewsDotCom Oh please, don't be ridiculous. No one is taking away your right to vote. When election day comes, you can write-in anybody you want. Heck, you could even vote for WRong Paul if you're so inclined.

Besides, why should taxpayers be forced to foot the bill for these "false left/right paradigm" party-controlled elections anyway? That's tyranny!!!

LO mother-fucking L!

[MoxNewsDotCom]

@PostSurgeOperative

So it YOU, NOT Ron Paul that doesn't believe in voters RIGHT to pick the candidate they would want to see as POTUS...? You're right that is so funny :( ~MOXy

[PostSurgeOperative]

@MoxNews Again, no one is taking away your right to vote.

What's funny is that for years many people, including WRong Paul supporters, have clamored for an end to the two-party duopoly, and now that your state is handing you an opportunity to have a real election not controlled and dominated by a long drawn-out primary system, you don't even see it.

Why not form a third party? I'm sure there are enough people who are angered by this that you would have strong momentum to mount such a campaign.

[tjohn1986]

@MoxNewsDotCom Isn't Washington a liberal state?

[ZoneTelevision]

@MoxNewsDotCom I Totally Agree.

[PostSurgeOperative]

@MoxNewsDotCom WRong Paul is an advocate for states' rights. If the State of Washington wants to eliminate unnecessary and wasteful spending of taxpayers' dollars, I'm 100% confident that WRong Paul would totally approve. And if not, then he's a total hypocrite on yet another issue.

And again, NO ONE is taking away your right to vote for whoever you want.If you can show that your right to vote is being taken away, I'll send you another $100.

[MintV2]

@MoxNewsDotCom Look on the bright side MOXy, this gives you and the other PaulTards another strawman... even kooks need new material.

[PostSurgeOperative]

@MintV2 Kooks??? Really?!?!? Damn dude, you give them far more credit than I would.

[gsuitter]

@MoxNewsDotCom I believe everyone still has a vote except it's cast at a caucus instead of at the ballot box. The only difference I see is convenience but who said running a democratic republic was always easy. So victory goes to the candidate with the most dedicated supporters. The candidate with supporters who will go the distance, Ron Paul.

[PostSurgeOperative]

@gsuitter WRong. An open primary is much more democratic than caucus meetings, because the caucuses are organized and run by the major parties themselves, instead of by a neutral arbiter such as the Secretary of State elections division. Whether WRong Paul has broad support in Washington is debatable, but I strongly doubt he has any support within the RepubliCon party apparatus.

The best hope WRong Paul supporters have in Washington is to form a 3rd party, or mount a write-in campaign.

[rbeelz]

@MoxNewsDotCom Technically even from a pure libertarian perspective, the state has no obligation to provide a primary for what should be private political parties (which they aren't). Even viewing this as a Paul supporter, from a principled standpoint, the party should just run its own primary (Though we'd likely have some negative ramifications in our camp). Why should the state have to foot the bill?

[SpideyNinety08]

@PostSurgeOperative this would probably help out Ron Paul, since he has the most passionate base, if people have to go to caucus then Ron Paul's base will most likely be the biggest group that does. They care the most

[PostSurgeOperative]

@SpideyNinety08 That's the spirit! Instead of crying like little babies, you kids should take these lemons and make some lemonade!

Keep your chin up, mate!

[xennelul]

ellected officals my ass

[seks03]

stop paying federal taxes

[watertonrivers]

Hell, the it does not matter any damned way, "We the People" don't elect anyone...They are coronated(selected)!

[KCUAC]

hmmmm, interesting

[nvcn00]

Boooooooooo

[MissEVitale]

state lies federal lies city lies anything to lies and control....