in the corners as my 308gt4. This is why I state my honest opinion. The Pantera is blindly fast in the straights as my buddy would just walk right by me as 240chp is nothing today but my 308 did feel more planted. I feel if DeTomaso went with an all alloy motor instead of the 351c or 351w they would have a superb motor on there hands when it came to handling. What year or series is your Detomaso?
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI I have a '74 Pantera L that has been lightened and modified. It has about 40K in mods not done by me. My neighbor has a 308 as well. I have never driven a stock Pantera so that may be why my experience was different. Although my Pantera could go just as fast around the corners as the 308, the Ferrari felt more polished. The Pantera seemed to be less forgiving but I like the wildness of it anyway. Just FYI, the Mangusta was produced right before the Pantera, not after.
@hipcat13 I know the Mangusta came first and it is quite a piece of machine if you ask me. Seems like your Pantera has quite a bit of work done to it. Pantera L? Would it be the US model? Would you still have the 351c? I was given a blindingly fast ride in a 82 that was properly scary with a BiTurbo system (dont think it was stock). I think you thought with my original comment I was here to bad mouth a car that came out of Modena Italy like the Ferrari but i am an auto enthusiast too with opinio
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI If you think the rest of the De Tomaso designs are copied, check out the Vallelunga. It was the first road car they did and it was ahead of it's time....the motor was actually a structural part of the car. Only a little over 50 were produced. Really a beautiful little car.
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI Trust you on that? Why should I when I OWN one? My neighbor has a Ferrari too, and I've driven that as well. Sorry bud, you're a little out of your league here. I quote from an article in Car Collector (June 1978) "The Pantera also posseses very high standards of roadholding and handling. In fact, there are probably no more than four road cars in the world that can out-corner the Pantera". I could find more documentation from the period, but this was the closest at hand.
@hipcat13 Congrats on your ownership of a Pantera but I refuse to agree with you. Media and propaganda wont equate to actual track time with more professional drivers. Dont get me wrong I love Panteras (the only DeTomaso I like as everything after that excluding the Mangusta seemed to be a "copy" or rebody of a production car for example the Longchamp)as they have earned there spot in history, but, spending decent time at silverstone with a Pantera S and it just didnt feel confident... more...
Simple, when Enzo presented the 275LM didn't got the 'Homologation' need to race.Then a year later Enzo put the exact same car with the 250LM 'name' and it did race under that name.
Odd but true. Enzo got very mad the previews year.
So it's not a mistake the 1965 250LM is the 275LM from 1964.
sorprendente!!
FrapsYou 4 months ago
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in the corners as my 308gt4. This is why I state my honest opinion. The Pantera is blindly fast in the straights as my buddy would just walk right by me as 240chp is nothing today but my 308 did feel more planted. I feel if DeTomaso went with an all alloy motor instead of the 351c or 351w they would have a superb motor on there hands when it came to handling. What year or series is your Detomaso?
Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI 5 months ago
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI I have a '74 Pantera L that has been lightened and modified. It has about 40K in mods not done by me. My neighbor has a 308 as well. I have never driven a stock Pantera so that may be why my experience was different. Although my Pantera could go just as fast around the corners as the 308, the Ferrari felt more polished. The Pantera seemed to be less forgiving but I like the wildness of it anyway. Just FYI, the Mangusta was produced right before the Pantera, not after.
hipcat13 5 months ago
@hipcat13 I know the Mangusta came first and it is quite a piece of machine if you ask me. Seems like your Pantera has quite a bit of work done to it. Pantera L? Would it be the US model? Would you still have the 351c? I was given a blindingly fast ride in a 82 that was properly scary with a BiTurbo system (dont think it was stock). I think you thought with my original comment I was here to bad mouth a car that came out of Modena Italy like the Ferrari but i am an auto enthusiast too with opinio
Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI 5 months ago
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI If you think the rest of the De Tomaso designs are copied, check out the Vallelunga. It was the first road car they did and it was ahead of it's time....the motor was actually a structural part of the car. Only a little over 50 were produced. Really a beautiful little car.
hipcat13 5 months ago
The Pantera could obliterate any of these at a 1/4 of the price.
hipcat13 6 months ago
@hipcat13 sad... a Pantera isn't a Ferrari.
JazzSaxUT 5 months ago
@JazzSaxUT No kidding! that's what's so funny about it!
hipcat13 5 months ago
@hipcat13 Pantera would do that in only a straight line, trust me on that...
Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI 5 months ago
@Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI Trust you on that? Why should I when I OWN one? My neighbor has a Ferrari too, and I've driven that as well. Sorry bud, you're a little out of your league here. I quote from an article in Car Collector (June 1978) "The Pantera also posseses very high standards of roadholding and handling. In fact, there are probably no more than four road cars in the world that can out-corner the Pantera". I could find more documentation from the period, but this was the closest at hand.
hipcat13 5 months ago
@hipcat13 Congrats on your ownership of a Pantera but I refuse to agree with you. Media and propaganda wont equate to actual track time with more professional drivers. Dont get me wrong I love Panteras (the only DeTomaso I like as everything after that excluding the Mangusta seemed to be a "copy" or rebody of a production car for example the Longchamp)as they have earned there spot in history, but, spending decent time at silverstone with a Pantera S and it just didnt feel confident... more...
Sn00pyb0ttz82GTI 5 months ago
The sound of those cars make me cry... They are so beautiful! AHHHH!!!
mariusjimi 11 months ago
@mariusjimi
cry?? dude, youre a pussy, you dont have to cry to like the sound!
AldoZuper 7 months ago
When was this show produced, just out of curiosity? My guess is late 80's-early 90's...
dfitch81 1 year ago
Thank you so VERY much for taking the time to share ..... with the rest of us... BRAVO !
tejastiger61 1 year ago
I think the older gto looks better.
19Spencer80 2 years ago
57s: this 275 LM?? It's a 250 LM
PorscheDiddy 2 years ago
In fact the 250LM is a 275LM. Why you ask?
Simple, when Enzo presented the 275LM didn't got the 'Homologation' need to race.Then a year later Enzo put the exact same car with the 250LM 'name' and it did race under that name.
Odd but true. Enzo got very mad the previews year.
So it's not a mistake the 1965 250LM is the 275LM from 1964.
Mekanaizer 2 years ago
Actually it isn't. It was called a 250 LM so it could race in the GT class instead of the prototype class, but it really is a 275 LM. Ferrari lied.
thedomonator 2 years ago
where can i buy this on dvd?
rclay83 3 years ago
wooohooooo!!!
ThateMotorsport 3 years ago