NH: Open carry graffiti removal?

[UndergroundMusikMan]

this ridley dude is a fucking joke, you guys can try to do everything you want to "prevent" graffiti, but hey geuss what?!?! we do not give a fuck, which is why we are out there bombing shit, as for you guys saying graffiti isnt art or were not considered artists, go fall in a hole somewhere seriously. thick headed fucks with no respect for art in the first place are saying this and these are the people who have no idea what its like to fight for what you think is right.

ps try not to stutter

[C0llateralDamag3]

You in New Hampshire? Whoa man try and buff my shit... I'll just throw it back it, And graffiti is art man, I'd be fine with you whiping up toys.. But not the real artists.

[smokeindoors420]

pick up the trash and keep the art. cause in 50 years...you wont care about some throw up, but you will about your economy. you need to broaden your perspective a bit you chump.

and wtf is up with your ending!? no one wants a box of bullshit thats gonna take up space

[jimbad05]

Some graffiti art can be beautiful. I especially like those huge murals you see on the sides of buildings sometimes. They help add character to a neighborhood or city.

Unfortunately, 90% of graffiti is just some scumbag scribbling his name on someone else's property. Thats not art, thats called disrespecting other people's property.

Funny how taggers never tag their own property, isn't it?

[C0llateralDamag3]

@jimbad05 No only real "taggers" hit public property, Anyone who does private property is considered a toy.

[konsfriend]

this is pure bullshit. It's been proven that only about 5% of all graffiti is gang-related. It's annoying when someone scribbles on your lamp post or pay phone but u get over it because in the grand scheme of things, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL! You people waste thousands if not millions of dollars trying to fix things that for the most part, are painted on railway lines and the sides of abandoned mills or warehouses.

[hallmobility]

@konsfriend Well I don't believe that. I've lived in gang-infested areas and they leave their calling cards all over, often with their gang initials etc. And yes I have passed up on renting in neighborhoods with lots of graffitti. As for the COST, the city of manch gets the service FREE OF CHARGE, get it?

[medawon]

What gangs do you clowns speak of ?

Where ? they dont exist.. MPD is the biggest gang.hells angels..outlaws

they do what they want ..but you racists 603 degenerates dont seem to notice them..this shit has nothing 2 do with gangs

[rewzrewzrewz1]

u act like a child im 15 i got a better idea if u dont like graff then dont look at it simple y do u waist your money its all ganna fade away some time and driving by a plane wall is just boring

[imstraightup]

ax is the best crew! but graffiti is art. the city has character for nice clean graffiti art

[ETbombing]

graffiti is sick AX crew runs alot of the graffiti in manchester

[Bkillah1]

and about gangs and shit its all around manch we got it all hookers crack smak blow niggaz sellin shit on tha coner FOLK NATION GDN fuckin bitch ass latin kings slob ass bloods niggaz carryin heat like its winter 24 7 open ya eyes lowell st lincon wilson granit and so on and so on u get tha point u got real shit too worry about this city gets more grimey everyday poppin kops an shit hahahahah thats my boy shot that man dead doin work for that FOLK NATION 666 throw that pitchfork nigggga

[intrepgun]

manchester is, in a lot of ways, becoming more like lowell, MA. and that's not good.

but you're still obviously pretty immature. 'AX runs the train lines.' what are you a fucking amateur? do you know what separates silly little street gangs and successful, wealthy criminals you've never heard of? priorities. kids want other kids to think they're the shit. smart people want anonymity and security. sell your ego to someone with their pants around their knees.

[UndergroundMusikMan]

@intrepgun you can talk this and that, but when ax cats catch you on the tracks and stomp you out, im sure your gunna be the one with your pants around your knees shakin like a little bitch, and these arent gangs they are graffiti crews you fucking morons we aint gang bangin shit, thats a whole different story you really dont want anything with.

[intrepgun]

@UndergroundMusikMan often in my busy and successful life i find myself wondering, 'why don't i hang out on the railroad tracks more?' and then it all comes flooding back when i read a real gem of a comment like yours. on the plus side, i do like some of your uploads. ever checked out deep puddle dynamics?

[Bkillah1]

your an idot tha more shit u buff tha more ppl u piss off theres real graff an toy shit wich is ppl that have no respect amoung tha respected writers shit aint gonna stop live wit it AX crue started in manch buy a few homeboys centurys ago AX is now in VT MA PA RI and FLORIDA chew on that bitch then theres WNS crew and OMA holdin down manch u cant stop shit AX runs tha train lines along wit tha city graff aint about gangbangin really but if u dont play by tha ruls your gonna get fuked up

[joel7687]

This is an excellent idea, if permission is consistently obtained from property owners and the graffiti removal is consistently done well.

It will take more work than litter pickups, but I think there are good reasons to pursue this as a form of activism.

Thanks, Dave, for another great liberty-oriented video.

[Rothgar12]

love it! Get the property owner's permission first.

[sirinferno]

If you're intent on doing something with graffiti, then I'd suggest three courses of action.

1.) only using pressure washers in an attempt to remove the paint

2.) simply cataloguing where graffiti is and how long it's remained there (perhaps informing residents to watch out for vandalism in hot spots or telling the 'official' graffiti removal team)

3.) creating liberty related posters/banners that you can supply to people to put on their property to cover the graffiti.

[AngelWithGuns42]

Graffiti is a property crime. There is damage to property which qualifies as corpus delicti. The major reason graffiti crime continues to increase is due to the manner in which the courts handle minors. Much the same reason that the gangs use minors to sell drugs and murder their competition. You don't see Walmart and Target doing this to sell aspirin. The answer isn't more courts, jails, and prisons. The solution is getting rid of counter-productive laws like minimum age and minimum wage.

[bigoledicksdotcom]

@AngelWithGuns42 What!?!

[intrepgun]

just want to make it known that as much as graffiti is used by gangs, it is not an inherent gang-related activity.

i like 'reverse graffiti' where you draw- using soapy water and rags, a finger, pressure washer, whatever- in dirt. on things that generally shouldn't be quite as dirty as perhaps they are. art maximizes humanity.

[joel7687]

Regardless of connection with gangs, graffiti on private property without the owner's permission is unacceptable.

I do, however, like the idea of reverse graffiti, when it is done on "public" property. I read once about a Latin American artist who selectively cleaned soot from tunnels and things like that to form pictures of skulls, as a way to call attention to the city's pollution problem.

[intrepgun]

i had a buddy that tagged quite a bit. and was an amazing artist. he gets caught one day down at a moped dealer's garage and since he was such a skilled artist, his punishment was to paint them new logos and 'billboards' on the buildings.

but that's just an interesting, unrelated story.

and the tunnel skulls video is in my favorites :) GREAT video.

[askifICare]

I've thought about doing this OC. So far, I've just been cleaning it up without any OC and stuck mainly to cleaning things like signs and other public metal areas (since it is usually very easy to remove).

[JoelMatton]

I'm skeptical about this. I personally think graffiti can be very pretty and make buildings look better. They can give boring ugly grey walls some character and make them look better. I don't want the liberty movement to become enemies with the graffiti community. I would rather we allign ourselves with them.

[ThndersRage]

Most of the Graffiti I have seen in my area is not pretty. If this is to be done I imagine a case by case basis should be established. Caution should also be utilized you do not want the wrong people targeting you for messing with their markers ie Graffiti. That is good way to get hurt..

As for allying with these people I would say definitely not. Graffiti is commonly associated with Gangs and Gangs should not be associated with the open carry movement or any other freedom loving movement.

[intrepgun]

what about the freedom to join a gang? even the flip side has a flip side.

[CurtHowland]

Lots of people join gangs. Rotary clubs, Kiwanis, Elks, Free State Project, FreeMasons, sure.

The one thing that differentiates these gangs from what most people mean when they use the word "gangs"? Coercion.

[l1nuxun1l]

I see nothing wrong with allow being to join a "gang", heck you could call any group a "gang". The illegal part is when you commit a crime.

[unodepoalli]

I agree some graffiti artist do a great job.I have no problem with graffiti as long as they have aproval of the owner.But many just do a scrible on a wall without the aproval of the owner.

[joel7687]

If the graffiti is approved by the owner, then it's fine. If not, it is a crime. Either way, checking with the owner before removing graffiti is necessary and should prevent the liberty movement from becoming enemies with any legitimate "graffiti community."

[MoparNJ]

I deal with graffiti as part of my job. Like said above, first you need permission from the owner. Then you need to determine the best way to tackle it. Graffiti removal products can damage the underlying surface. Painting over often requires first priming/sealing to prevent the graffiti from bleeding through, then the paint has to be matched both in color and in type. Painting one type of paint over an incompatable type will cause it to wrinkle, crater or lift right off.

[MoparNJ]

Finally, there are all kinda of liability issues, both for the property owner and the people doing the removal. Graffiti removal products are caustic, and can cause burns and blindness. Improper graffiti removal can cause more damage then the original tagging. Some towns may even require permits to paint or pressure wash, especially in a downtown area where you might have to close the sidewalk and/or even part of the street. Stick to picking up trash.

[Josiah531]

You would have to figure out the processes of best removing the stuff. e.g. painting over, pressure washing, etc.

And you would need permission of the owner which could be odd.