It was more than poor economic standing of the Germans that gave rise to the Nazi's. And because Whites did all the plundering in the past, it has given their decedents privilege of today. All of them don't have the equal amount of privilege. And privilege is not only in money. But what we as Blacks, Whites and all other races are divided on is power and class. Yes Black racism is wrong just like the racism that gave it to them was wrong, Any who come in a hateful tone is not right.
@u2hubbard Wrong. Whites do not receive benefits from any plunderings of the past. There's not a shred of economic evidence that shows anyone's wealth of any race can be traced back to deeds done centuries ago.
@kkilo34 Have you ever seen guns, germs and steel? Whites as a race had power with no moral restraint. You can deny the existence of White privilege all you want but I'm gonna only take you as someone who wants to maintain the power and privilege of the White race by nonchalant and wanting everyone to turn a blind eye. We are not asking Whites to feel "guilty" and we do acknowledge that every White person doesnot have the same level of power and privilege. And classism is the ultimate
@u2hubbard Okay, and I'm going to take you as a black supremacist who is so committed to the moral superiority of your race that you have to demonize those whose skin color is lighter than yours. That is, after all, your true motivation.
@kkilo34 enemy of humanity. But classism and racism stem from the same place. And that is European imperialism. You can afford to look at everything through the eyes of individualism but when your collectives power comes into challenge you naturally defend it. Yes I give credit to the White race for inventing the airline the automobile, and the things we are talking on right now, the computer/internet. But that doesnot mean they are racially superior.
@u2hubbard I never argued they were racially superior. You are, however, arguing that they are inherently evil and responsible for the problems of other races. Yes, we tend to be more successful, and at one time our success derived from the exploitation of others. We evolved beyond that, and today, in most cases, our success is derived through the legitimate creation of good economic opportunities as a result of hard work, smart decisions, and personal responsibility.
@sk8bow Well, I'm sorry you think whites are to blame for the problems in the world. And its' fine if you want to promote anti-white bigotry as a means to solve the world's problems. But understand, whites are getting tired of being racially scapegoated for those problems, and we will fight you. We will speak out and expose you for the bigots you are. You will be labeled a racist, and you will be treated like any racist. And that's something you might want to consider before you preach hate.
@sk8bow "but you don't want to have anything to do with other cultures." Yes I do. I live and work with non-white people everyday. Why would you assume otherwise? Is it because you have certain assumptions about people with my skin color and just assume we're all isolated racists? I would say that's almost certainly the cause of your misguided beliefs.
"you don't have to literally say something. it's obvious." Obvious to people like you with your racial prejudice of people with white skin.
@sk8bow How close do I need to be? Do you go out of your way to be close to white people? Tell me what you've done to increase your closeness to whites lately? I'm going to scrutinize your ability to form relationships with white people and see just how much you're doing to get close them. And if I determine you're not, I'm going to label you a racist. Sound fair? But that's what you're doing to me? Why do you not want to be treated as you treat whites?
@sk8bow "you don't intermingle with anyone other than whites." That is not what I said. Why are you blatantly lying about what I said? Here's a direct quote from me: " I've never had a bad relationship with a black co-worker. And I currently have many Hispanic friends." Your'e being ridiculously dishonest. Why?
"i don't care what race you are." We feel the same then.
I'm glad you understand a person's race will not determine their quality or lack thereof as a person.
@sk8bow I thought race didn't matter. Yet, here you're arguing that the fact SOME whites agree with it somehow lends weight to the this very racist concept. It doesn't, nor does it refute the arguments I made in this video.You may be threatened by the concept that blacks cause their own failures, but to suggest whites cause them is racial scapegoating and bigotry. And I will challenge it constantly, and show the inherent racist ideas that lie within its message. And more and more are joining me.
@sk8bow And we'll be talking about your integration skills with whites as well. What have you done to prove your ability to practice and integrate yourself into white culture. I'm Celtic. Tell me what you know about Irish history and Celtic music. I eagerly await your response to determine whether or not you hate whites, as evidenced by your knowledge an appreciation of my culture. A failure to do so will prove you're hate whites and want them all to die. You like your own medicine? We'll see.
@sk8bow "you never answered the question i asked you." Actually I did. I showed the manipulation behind it. You know nothing about Celtic culture. Does that mean you hate people of Celtic descent? I don't currently have any black friends, but I have had them in the past. And I've never had a bad relationship with a black co-worker. And I currently have many Hispanic friends. I'm closest to whites in my life, but can you claim you're closer to whites than blacks? What does that say about you?
@sk8bow "lol, i am closer to whites than blacks." Okay, is that true of all blacks? Would the fact that blacks tend to be closer to other blacks prove how much they hate whites?
"as for understanding celtic culture, why should i" Precisely. That's my point. Did you miss it? I guess so. You SHOULDN'T have to know, and the fact you don't says nothing about you. The same is true for my relationships/knowledge or lack thereof with non-whites.
@sk8bow "but being isolated is not going to help you or me." Frankly, I think forcing people to associate with others will generate resentment, and a tendency to want to be around people like you is not going to necessarily result in hatred of those who are different or signify any such hatred existed. But I've always lived around racial minorities, have never been segregated, and have no interest in changing that.
The reality of human nature is, we have low-level software to make us loyal to those we see as part of our tribe.
Blacks naturally want to be around other blacks. They may have white and asian friends of course, but they are most comfortable around other blacks. This is also true of whites and asians. And that's just the race aspect, not the social class or religious aspect.
Does that mean that Everyone is Inherently racist because they want to be around people like them?
@sk8bow Nothing about this comment does anything to refute the arguments made in this video. Instead, this person is arguing for ideological conformity by saying that people disagreeing with each other divides communities. This is precisely the kind of intolerant bigotry that the concept of white privilege is based on. There is no white privilege. There's just anti-white bigots who want to disguise their hatred of white people as a crusade for community empowerment. Nazis use similar techniques.
@sk8bow That's wonderful that you can claim that someone that disagrees with you is "denying." Yet, you can't actually demonstrate your position has any merits whatsoever. Let's just leave it at that. Everyone, watch this video and all the arguments I have showing the inherent anti-bigotry in the concept of "white privilege." Sk8bow's only response to it is to claim I'm "denying." You be the judge. Who's making a stronger case?
a person who is likely to believe in wp is more likely to be tolerant and accepting of other cultures compared to a person who denies it. it's not even a question of how much a person accepts the idea of wp. it's just a matter of wanting a connection with other cultures. that is what the idea promotes.
but it really doesn't matter what you think because all you want is division of culture.
@sk8bow "i'm making the stronger case." What case? you claimed I'm in "denial." That's the sum total of your arguments. Now your argument is that people who agree with you are more "tolerant." So what case are you making other than people that disagree with you are intolerant and in denial? That's not a case. It's just a personal attack on those that disagree.
You are so adorable lol. now you are calling me a black supremacist with no proof and accusing me of defending Mugabe merely because i am asking you to back up your misrepresentation about him or what went on. So much substance there, yet still no evidence
keep showing how full of shit you are... you credibility just keeps rising. You keep your head lodged deep in you ass clearly. you need more support if you are gonna keep making claims on these little videos of yours
@kesomox I know you don't see the racism that informs your ideas, but I don't need you to. I just need whites to see it, and more and more of them are. When they see what bigots you are, they realize you're not victims. I realize I get no support from black racists like you, but you're not my target audience.
@kesomox And let the record show that you were unable to provide a shred of evidence that any, much less most, of the white farmers who were deprived of their land did not have deeds to their land from the post-independence government. So why should anyone believe your claims? You can't even seem to make a video to demonstrate the strengths of your positions. At least I put my ideas out there and don't make claims and then ask others to prove them untrue. How ridiculous.
@kkilo34 Oh so know you are denying the claims you made? I don't bother making videos about useless crap and pile bullshit in. You subscribe to misguided bull crap and try to get other on your bandwagon. From my experience most are on your page, so don't worry my friend. It doesn't matter that you can't prove your "truths" of course. you can't lie to me about my country. Relax black racists/supremacists are seen for what they are just like whites are or they are not taken seriously
@kesomox If it's your country, you'd have no problem demonstrating the truth of your claims. But you can't even point to a source, can you? I back up my claims, which had little to do with Zimbabwe per se and more about the potential for black racism, with an award-winning documentary. What do you have? Nothing. Let that stand on its own merits.
@kkilo34 Now your video had nothing to do with Zimbabwe contrary to your claims. Tell me which award this was so I know not to take it seriously. Another biased documentary giving a simplified/romanticized view for ignorance to ride on. Africa has enough of those. I am the one making videos? its not my obligation not really validated by all this was just putting your integrity on the line for all those non ignorant white people to see for fun. I know you don't care about the black ones
@kesomox Actually I said it had "little to do with Zimbabwe per se." You can look up what that means, as you clearly are not familiar with the term. And did you actually watch the documentary?....Then how do you know it's biased? Clearly, you're biased against it. You sure do hate any critical look at your country don't you? I guess you're not so much of a racist as you are a Zimbabwean Nationalist. Just click your heels and plug your ears. It'll be alright.
@kkilo34 Yeah "little to do with Zimbabwe per se." contrary to your claims. Misspoke there but use that to take jab at me you need as many cheap shots as you can get. I am judging from your comments and views on it unless you are misrepresenting that documentary too? I am Zim nationalist now? Within the context of my views on white farmers... some of whom I stated were unjustly treated, keep going. I don't think i am superior to you just a much better person. bet that's lost on you
@kesomox "unless you are misrepresenting that documentary too?" Why don't you watch it and find out for yourself? And I think I'm a better person than you. So, the feeling is mutual. Glad we got that out in the open.
@kkilo34 You missed the undertones of my comments. You do not even see how biased you are. You place yourself on this artificial pedestal above these dumb, ignorant racists you argue with, mislabeling and forcing views because one is not on the exact same page. YOU ARE NO BETTER
All this does not add up to anything. but yours is a cause conjured up in Ignorance. You will be popular with those like you. Now you can again go ahead, misrepresent me and call me a black supremacist. go on
I am sincerely concerned with the Issue I am ethnically Zimbabwean... half Ndebele half Shona. My mom who is Ndebele had multiple thousands of her people massacred back when Bob was a British stooge and his crap was swept under a rug and ignored. So all your proof better not point out what i already know about Bob being violent and corrupt. I am concerned with the issues of Zimbabwe. Its was a state run by a vicious dictator who carried a land grab policy racially based land grab policy
@kkilo34 but does that mean the violence against whites there was widespread and systematic comparable to that of Nazi Germany like you suggest. Show that was the case in Zimbabwe. I had spent a few months there during the time so i will then know all the info you give is immediate crap. Show that most of the whites who owned land was given under the government.
@kesomox If you can also show that lynchings where for the most part punishment for crimes although racially based and use this to debunk all evidence and knowledge of the systematic racism and oppression of blacks. Then you will have a win on both fronts. You get racially based policies all the time does that necessarily mean they are bad... like i said i am for corrective measure of social injustices... the situation in Zimbabwe was the result of corrupt violent dictator involved.
@kesomox You really don't understand the question, do you? That's sad. Well, here's the deal. NO ONE CAN PROVE that all blacks who were lynched were not truly guilty of something. And using this to dismiss those heinous acts is the primitive thinking that only a bigot would use. But that is precisely what you are doing to dismiss the injustice whites face in Zimbabwe.
@kesomox You do understand that the Nazi reference was a comparison of ideologies and not of quantifiable actions, right? The Nazis devalidated the right of Jews to their property using very similar (not precisely exact) rationales as that contained within the concept of white privilege. In fact, I didn't even really make any direct comparisons between Hitler and Mugabe at all. Zimbabwe was ONLY an example to show that black prejudice, when given power, becomes black racism.
@kesomox Oh, but I know you'll go on insisting that white farmers in Zimbabwe deserved to have their land taken from them, and you'll find any little difference in ideologies to insist that no racial injustice ever took place in Zimbabwe. Like so many black people, you just can't own up to the fact that whites are victims of racism too. Instead, you want a monopoly on that victim label and insist no one else can ever own it the way blacks do.
@kkilo34 You can not use certain instances of heinous acts to paint a general picture without supporting evidence and knowledge. You don't get that sad. Which is what you are doing. I agree that those who had their land taken away through unjust means were wronged but that was a minority. There is a huge difference in ideologies.... One came out of desperation and poverty the other came out of oppression and theft. I do believe in corrective measures of social injustice
@kesomox These are certain circumstances? What proof do you have that most white land owners did not have title to their land? I eagerly await your proof that most received land through transactions that were NOT approved by the government following independence.
Oh of course Germany had a history of racial oppression and and systematic Jewish Supremacy were the wealth was for the most part taken from them. Oh and of course Germany was also acting under accordance with the German government and had a had a redistribution policy of the livelihoods and wealth of the Jews. Its not the same thing. If blacks settled on land under those circumstances and had it taken away from because of it I would not oppose it.
@kesomox But the whites who had their land taken did not take it from blacks. They had deeds to their lands. This is the little inconvenient fact you keep trying to ignore, and every time you do, I'm going to throw it right back up in your face. You are desperate here to justify racial bigotry against whites, and that's because you're a typical black American. You have no principled opposition to racism. You just don't want it directed at blacks. Simple as that.
@kkilo34 Prove that that was the general case of the farm owners i need a solid proof showing that most of the farm land owners had their land sold to the by the Zimbabwean government. When you inherit an entity you inherit not only the assets but its liabilities, just because you purchased something wrongfully acquired does not make it rightfully yours
@kesomox "just because you purchased something wrongfully acquired does not make it rightfully yours" Do you understand that a deed is a land document APPROVING THE SALE OF A LAND BY THE GOVERNMENT? Do you not understand this concept? So when Mugabe's government said, "Here's a deed to your land" and later said "psyche! We want your land because you're skin is white," you see nothing wrong with this?
Prove that that was the general case. for a few it was like "here is the land we are acting in accordance to the British Empire here and the land will in turn be redistributed back to the natives." "Oh the British government screwed us all the land needs to be returned". Black people that commit crimes should be punished and all the assets owned in relation to those crimes seized. No need to attack innocent blacks, non farmers where left to be. If you buy stolen asset you aren't entitled to it.
@kesomox So, what if one black man was punished for crimes he didn't commit? That would be okay, right? Then why do I have to prove that every single case of land seizure in Zimbabwe was done to someone without a deed? There's a whole movie on one white man who was tortured and killed, because he wouldn't give up his land AND he had a deed. But it's not an injustice unless it happened in every case, right? Okay, not all blacks were lynched. So, no injustice there, right?
@kesomox So...Prove that not a single black man that was lynched was actually guilty of the crimes he was accused of. If you can't do that, BY YOUR RATIONALE, then no injustice has occurred. Surely some blacks who were lynched truly were guilty. So, that makes it okay, right? Well, then why do I need to prove that every single white farmer in Zimbabwe truly purchased their land through willing buyer/willing seller, government-approved transactions before you'll accept an injustice was done?
@kkilo3 Prove that was the majority of the cases. There was also a land redistribution agreement pretense. What happened to that white man was an injustice and very unfortunate. We are talking about BOB. But was that the general case during the land grab policy prove that? I really do not have the time do get into this foolish. If you want to show that the perverse racism under that era was not what it was and the culture of lynching was simply just punishment go ahead. I won't even comment
@kesomox "Prove that was the majority of the cases. " Can you prove that the majority of lynched blacks were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of? Does that make it okay, then? But let me ask you this...if I prove that was the case...will you agree to admit that Mugabe's land reform policies are unjust? If I make a video about this agreement, will you put a comment in agreeing that if I prove this to you, you will agree that I was right? Yes or no?
@kesomox See, I think this is a stall tactic. You aren't sincerely concerned with whether or not those people had deeds to their property issued by the Mugabe government. I think you want to find a reason -- any reason -- to justify the actions against white farmers. And you're hoping that either I can't or won't find proof that they had those deeds. But I know where I can get this proof and it will take some work. I'll do it so long as you sincerely are concerned with this issue. Are you?
@kesomox " you want to show that the perverse racism under that era" I'm just using your arguments in cases of injustices by blacks. Interestingly, every time the victims are black, you have a whole new outlook on the situation.
@kesomox Again, this is based on an assumption that if whites had land and it was taken from them by people with darker skin, then the whites must of gotten through illegitimate means. Besides a general prejudice of people with white skin and an automatic assumption of innocence on the part of those with darker skin, what proof do you have that those whites did not have deeds to their land?
@kkilo34 Look at you backtracking lol.... You are the one purporting all this crap you were so confident about proving it earlier why don't you? Apparently the history of oppression that country faced where tons of native farmers where displaced of their own land in favor of whites was imagined. I'll go tell that to my grandmother and spit on my grandfathers grave for you. It's your video you are obliged to provide evidence of your stance if that does not matter make a disclaimer!
@kesomox "Look at you backtracking lol" Actually, I'm asking the same question you did. You're the one making the initial claim. Don't you think you should be the one to provide proof that your claim has merits? And in this comment you take the crimes committed by some whites to show no whites own land. So, let's apply that to the case in America, where blacks commit so much crime. Let's take your property to compensate white victims of black crime. How about it?
@kesomox "you are obliged to provide evidence of your stance" My stance is that whites are not privileged and that notion is based on something very similar to ideologies seen in white racism. And when such ideologies have power behind them, they translate into very similar actions as those faced by victims of white racism, such as that in Zimbabwe. You are arguing that those whites deserve to have their land taken from them because they have no deed. What proof do you have of this?
@kkilo34 If I settled on someones property unjustly and displaced them. You can take it back
You are the one who claimed that this land was sold by the government? this you were so confident of your evidence before what of that? search my profile I am not making videos about this crap or anything to be exact. So please continue to not give the evidence so it can be clear that you are full of shit
@kesomox "this you were so confident of your evidence before what of that?" You then claimed Mugabe was a "vicious dictator who carried a land grab policy racially based land grab policy." What of that?
In other words, you're being schizophrenic here with no actual stance on these issues. You defend Mugabe in one sentence, and then change your whole story in the next. I'm convinced you're just playing games. So, why go to show much effort for someone who just doesn't seem sincere?
@kesomox "i am bored with this" You're bored? You think you're the first black supremacist I've dealt with today? Try listening to black people all day explain that your race is so evil that they deserve whatever injustice black people dish out to them. And then in the very next sentence, they will claim to be victims of racism. Sorry...you don't know what the fuck boredom is. Try debating your people some time.
@kkilo34 If you really wanted an example of evil racist atrocities committed by black you could have used what happened in Uganda to the Indians... 10's of thousands were exiled and murder or what happened in Tanzania to the Arabs i think 100's of thousands were massacred. See blacks can be evil too you happy? But these events just flew under your radar of course. White people are not involved... But 11 white people due to a land grab gone violent and that gets compared to Nazi Germany.
Is your head stuck so far up your own ass you do not see sarcasm. where did i say "blacks are not capable or inclined to such evil." is just mentioned that blacks have not committed atrocities against whites on a gross scale because it is true, just lake you state the achievements of whites because it is fact. You are then one who keeps purporting to everyone YOUR RATIONALE of capability for greatness good and evil. if that's your view fine, be a man don't sugar coat how full of shit you are.
@kesomox "blacks have not committed atrocities against whites on a gross scale because it is true" Simple question. What does this say about blacks or white people? Clearly, you meant something by stating this fact. What did you mean to say about whites or blacks in this statement? I eagerly await your response.
@kkilo34 In this video the picture you painted of Zimbabwe is bullshit I understand you have a point you want to get across but cut the crap. Hence my point blacks have never done no such thing on any gross amount of scale against whites.
Great on the black statistics that have nothing to do with anything... you are like one of those racists baiting me so you have an excuse to go off on your own tangent. It's okay set your inner racist free, no need to hide who you are
@kesomox I see you're not going to answer my question. So, I guess it would reveal too much truth about your own agenda.
Fact: Mugabe took lands from whites based on a racist ideology. Fact: You excuse and dismiss this action, and desperately try to insist that blacks are not capable of the kinds of evil racism that whites once engaged in. And you will use the most ridiculous rationales to justify blacks doing racist evils to whites. So, Mugabe hasn't killed 6 million whites. What if he could?
@kkilo34 ughhh you just don't quit do you. i meant is there some systematic policy for black people have to commit crimes, have out of wedlock children and all that crap purported by blacks.... wasn't blaming anything on whites there. I am sorry you can keep trying but i am not going to say what you want me to say or give you the answers you want.... Like i said if you want set your inner racist free and go of on your own tangent you can, its the net there is anonymity and free speech
@kesomox "here some systematic policy for black people have to commit crimes" Oooh. So a "policy" makes blacks do bad things. Tell me...what makes whites do bad things? Who's responsible for their bad choices? Are white people?
@kesomox Oh, and hey...can you tell everyone here what my "agenda" is? I'd like you to tell everyone who may be reading these comments what you think my "agenda" is. Please...tell us.
@kesomox "Great on the black statistics that have nothing to do with anything"
Yes, and slavery has nothing to do with anything, does it? Jim Crow has nothing do with anything, does it? Segregation has nothing to do with anything, does it?
Isn't it interesting that when blacks do evil to whites, it "has nothing to do with anything." But when whites do evil to blacks, every person with that skin color should lose their land to pay for that evil. And you tell me I have an agenda?
@kkilo34 To do with our topic. You are talking random stats... are these facts the result of systemic policies pushed forth by blacks themselves. They are if anything the result of poor socio economic backgrounds.
You are painting a false picture and trying to simplify and issue that is not black and white. Fail. Show me how i am being ridiculous and where i said black are not capable of evil racism. stop twisting my words. You do have an agenda i fine with it but relax with the bull
@kesomox "are these facts the result of systemic policies pushed forth by blacks themselves"
Ah, I see. So when blacks do evil to whites, whites make them do it, right? So, who made whites do Jim Crow, Segregation, and slavery? That was white people too, right? So, whites are just inherently evil, and blacks only do evil when whites make them, right?
@kesomox And remember..I was just stating facts like you were. Isn't it interesting that you're trying to defend black people? I wasn't doing anything other than stating some innocent facts. Yet, you seem to think I was saying something about black people by stating these innocent facts just like you were just stating some facts about whites. Isn't that interesting that when I just state some "facts," you think that maybe I'm trying to say something about blacks? Hmmm. Why is that?
@kkilo34 I am explaining why you facts are not in relation to evil racism. What do your facts have to do with the topic of the video exactly? nothing is that not suspect. If i went around stating random facts that have no relation to this discussion that paint whites in a bad light then i would get your stance. I have done no such thing. Stop trying to bait me it is cheap and pathetic
@kesomox "hat do your facts have to do with the topic of the video exactly?" I'm just stating some innocent facts like you were just stating some innocent facts. Why is it when you state facts about actions people with white skin have taken, it's not saying anything about the white race, but when I do *the exact same thing* with respect to actions blacks take, it says something about your race? Why can't you just answer this question? It's pretty straight forward, I think.
@kesomox So, it's because I was somehow off topic? Okay, but we are talking about race, are we not? And we are talking about racism, are we not? So...explain to anyone who may be reading these comments...how were my "facts" about black people not appropriate to a discussion on race and racism? Is racism a discussion in which only people with white skin should be discussed? Please...explain this to us. I'm eager to hear your explanation.
@kkilo34 grasping for straws i see. Let me try address all your queries wait till i am finished pt 1. A fraction of this video is to show that black supremacists are capable of carrying out systemic racial acts of violence against whites similar to that of Nazi Germany... you false did this through the land grab policy in Zimbabwe. I pointed out it was racist but not the picture you paint and these sorts of gross system acts of oppression against whites didn't occur
@kesomox "these sorts of gross system acts of oppression against whites " You don't think depriving people of a certain racial group of land through violence is oppressive? If you were deprived of land through violence, would you consider it oppressive? You're trying to split hairs to make one evil seem more justified. Sure there are differences between German and Zimbabwe. But that doesn't make Mugabe's actions any more moral. Or does it? If not, why even raise an issue?
@kkilo34 Again please leave out the history on the land in the country and the land redistribution arrangement that had been constructed. If land grab policy turned Zimbabwe into Nazi Germany how come not many whites died and how come whites that where not farm owners were left to be. You are trying to paint that picture here which is bull shit and false yes wrongs were committed, it happens but that was not the general case. We are going around in circles here
@kesomox That's like saying, leave out the history of poverty in Germany when you consider the Holocaust. Again, these farmers didn't take the land. They were just white. And again, you're arguing it's perfectly acceptable to steal land from people of a certain skin color. Okay. But what if it happened to you for being black? Oh, but that's different right? Because people with your skin color deserve what you own, but not people who are white.
@kesomox "trying to paint that picture" You are too. You're taking a blatant act of racial injustice against whites and trying to put rose pedals all over it. Keep painting giant black turds all you want. Fact is, you'll be exposing the truth. Black Americans have no principled opposition to racism. They ONLY oppose racism when it's directed at blacks. And I just want whites to see this, because then they'll start wondering how blacks can be victims of something they promote against others.
@kkilo34 I am sorry i am all for corrective measures of social injustices and i am not ashamed of it be it for blacks, whites, whatever. When you inherit and entity you also inherit its liabilities. I am sorry that not enough acts of oppression have been committed against whites by blacks so i can prove my view is racialist but it isn't you can just keep making false accusation on my part to get your agenda across anything to get it done right?
@kesomox "I am sorry i am all for corrective measures of social injustices" Okay. So am I. Black people commit a far higher rate of crime than whites. This costs white people a lot. Tell me, what do you think we should take from you to correct these social injustices? I know, that's different. Because you have no principled opposition to racism. You love it...unless it's directed at your race.
@kesomox Oh...and let me state a few facts. Black people commit crime at far higher rates than whites. Black people commit rape at far higher rates than whites. A full 70% of all black kids are born to single mothers and most will have absent fathers. Blacks drop out of high school at higher rates than whites, and don't pursue higher education at the same rates as whites. Remember...I'm just stating facts. I'm not trying to say anything about blacks. Nope. Just stating innocent facts here.
The British Empire has long since reneged the support of Mugabe thanks to the land reform Policy, convenient. But they were busy knighting him, praising and supporting him while he was massacring 10' of thousands of his own people. If you want to look at his propensity for evil look at that. Again there was a land redistribution agreement reneged on. Prove that that was the general case... not some court order/sanction that indicated it happened. These guys never show bias or take sides right?
@geetarslim306 I have never experienced any privilege for my skin color at any time in my life. So, why would I feel any guilt? I don't. And that's what irks my opponents so much. I'm showing whites that they are not responsible for the problems blacks experience. We are more successful because we behave in ways that foster more success. Blacks are just as capable of doing so. They simply choose not to and then racially scapegoat whites for their problems.
@kkilo34 Comparing Zimbabwe to Nazi Germany? While the land reform policy was racist it was carried out due mostly to the Lancestor agreement that the British Empire reneged on. White people not under that bracket were not under attack and left to be. Maybe he is specifically white farmer Nazi lol. Go to Zimbabwe chances are you as white man will be treated better than any black person. It's clear what you are trying to accomplish here but relax with the bullshit
@kesomox "White people not under that bracket were not under attack and left to be." Wrong. Mugabe's land reforms targeted willing-buyer/willing-seller white land owners, in which the land owners had deeds issued to their land BY MUGABE'S GOVERNMENT. They were not just deprived of their property against international court orders, the owners faced violence, including torture, murder, and rape. So, your claims here are flat false. See "Mugabe and the White African" for more information.
@kkilo34 you clearly do not know about the land agreement with the British Empire. Also you are trying to paint the picture that was the general case of the landowners, these biased documentaries can be misleading I have been you are trust me. Do you know what the death toll resulting from the violence was 11 although not to be taken lightly that hardly constitutes as genocide. Mugabe was a violent dictator. Like i said White farmer Nazi sure but flat out racial extremist stretch
@kesomox "these biased documentaries" They're based on stories of the actual people involved. They're not dramas. So your claim they're "biased" denies the fact that we're talking eye-witness account. The proof is on film. And at no time did I mention anything about genocide. Who precisely are you debating about genocide? No one here is used that word or any word like it. Only you did. Let's stick to what's actually being said and not the imagined conversation inside your head, shall we?
@kkilo34 You are drawing a comparison of Zimbabwe to that of Nazi Germany. My claim denies that it was a widespread racial extremist attack on whites, like what happened in Germany to the Jews. It was about reclaiming farm land, was racially based and violence ensued due to resistance. a few individuals experience does not constitute a general overview. People do over dramatize and over exaggerate to push forth their own agenda. It's fine you have your own but relax with the bullshit
@kesomox Are you seriously going to argue that Mugabe wouldn't pursue the extent of power as Hitler had would he have the ability to do so? You are trying to equate moral restraint with inability. The Nazis were simply more successful racists than Mugabe. But being less effective at evil is not the same as being more good. And the Nazis also claimed they were just taking property that was rightfully theirs. Pat yourself on the back.You argue the same points as the Nazis did.
@kkilo34 What I am saying is that he didn't when he could have... it was a land reform policy turned violent. Other whites were left to be, they are not all farmers. In Nazi Germany it was clearly a widespread genocidal attack on the Jews. Can you show that? Oh right no black racial extremists are just that incompetent lol. I get your agenda it's cute... there are pretty awful acts within Africa that occurred but unfortunately they don't involve whites. Again relax with the bullshit
@kesomox "Other whites were left to be" Wrong. All white farmers were targeted without exception. You keep trying to argue that black people exist on a higher moral plane. But they don't. They haven't been as successful at good OR evil as whites, but one's race does not determine their moral potential. You keep telling me to "stop with the bullshit" while telling outright lies about Mugabe's land reform policies. That's very amusing and exposes your agenda quite clearly: black supremacy.
@kkilo34 lol you are making up this conversation in you head now? It was a land reform policy so obviously white farmers that owned land were under attack if they did not subdue as for the OTHER WHITES THAT WERE NOT FARMERS, they were left to be. Is that clear now? I obviously do not think of blacks on a higher moral plane hence my mention of the "awful acts that have occurred within Africa." "They haven't been as successful at good or evil" lmao climb out of your own ass already
@kesomox "they were left to be." In other words, whites were only targeted if they had anything of value to take, like land. Yes, that may be true that poor whites with nothing to steal were left alone.
And the point about blacks never having committed as much evil as whites was YOUR point. You use this to suggest blacks are "better" than whites. Well, whites were ALSO more successful at good. Why is it only evil acts say something about whites but not good ones? Explain that to us, Kesomox.
@kkilo34 Most White Zimbabweans are well off farm or no farm. The poor comprise of a miniscule percentage. Why are putting words in my mouth? Where did i say any of that crap you accuse me of? If that's is all that is left of you then I will leave you to discuss with yourself. lol Again pull your head out of your own ass..."Why is it only evil acts say something about whites but not good ones?" this is the world we live in, the same goes for all races or are you for white privilege
@kesomox You said: "white farmers that owned land were under attack"
How am I putting words in your mouth? I'm deconstructing your arguments to show the racism within it. You think it's perfectly acceptable to steal land from people with white skin, even when that land was purchased through a transaction approved by Mugabe's government. If black people anywhere were having land taken from them would you think it's okay if blacks with no land were left alone? Yes or no?
@kesomox "this is the world we live in" You didn't answer the question. You claim that since whites were involved in the worst acts of racism, that shows that whites are more capable of racism than black people. Okay, let's go with that. Whites have also cured more diseases, founded more successful business and nations, and created more technological advancements than blacks. So, that shows that whites are more capable of doing good things than blacks, right? Why not?
@kkilo34 It only involved FARM land. Prove most of the land was obtained that way. It was obtained on a system of oppression and an understanding of land redistribution. You forget at one time Robert Mugabe was a stooge for the British Empire he did all according to their wishes they loved him, so much he was even knighted. That changed in the past decade or so. If blacks settled on land on those terms and had it taken away I would understand. It's not a clear black and white issue.
@kesomox "Prove most of the land was obtained that way." International courts condemned the actions of Mugabe's land reforms due to the fact the lands being taken were purchased through willing buyer/willing seller transactions in which duties were paid to the Mugabe government for a deed approving the land. Would you like to see some references? I have several. I'd be happy to send them to you.
@kesomox "Robert Mugabe was a stooge for the British Empire" Yes, and they have long since renounced their support. All his honorary degrees were revoked as well.
@kesomox I also noticed you avoided my question. I'll keep asking to see how many times you do avoid it. You claim that since whites were associated with many atrocities, that shows that blacks aren't inclined or capable of the evil whites are. Okay, but whites are associated with most technological advancements, economic advancements, and social ones as well. So, that would, by your rationale, demonstrate that blacks are not inclined or capable of those things, right? Yes or no? Score:1/0.
@kkilo34 Pt 2 let us bask in the splendor of whites ability to oppress most of the third world for the their own benefit and do acts both good and evil according to how they see fit. Humanities optimum propensity for good, evil and progress rests in their hands (go figure) we would be nowhere without the great white man lol. I don't agree with either. Whites have a right to be proud of their accomplishments if they want. Some people are capable of good, some bad its not a race thing.
@kesomox "we would be nowhere without the great white man" I didn't make this argument. You did. You said that since whites were associated with atrocity, it showed that blacks are not capable or inclined to such evil. Okay, BY YOUR RATIONALE, since whites are associated with most advancement, blacks are not capable or inclined towards such good acts either. Instead of trying to put words in my mouth, why not just admit your claim here was utter bullshit and that whites are not inherently evil?
@PastBeta I never done anything to black people. Of course, like most black people today, you're a bigot. You judge all people with white skin by crimes committed long ago. Interestingly, when you're assumed to be a criminal based on blacks' high rates of crime TODAY, you claim it's "racism." But when you do it to whites, you call it "karma." Fact is, black people are extremely racist, and I appreciate you expressing your bigoted ideas so everyone can see just how racist blacks have become.
Nobody talks about “Chinese privilege” in China. Nobody talks about “Haitian privilege” in Haiti. Nobody talks about “Japanese privilege” in Japan. Nobody talks about “Somalian privilege” in Somalia. Antiracists talk about “white privilege” in white nations, ONLY white nations. They say they are antiracist. What they are is antiwhite. Antiracist is a code word for antiwhite.
@zhrmod I love this comment. The guy criticizes me for calling Mugabe names just before he calls me names. And at no time does he offer a single counter argument to any presented in this video. He hates what I say, but he can't demonstrate any flaws in my reasoning.
I just called dellusioned which is a fact- There is absolutely no comparison to the many strong words you used what you say on the vid and my comment are there for all to see ;).. But of course cowards like you only "preach" to the already "salvaged" ;)
My fault.. What can I expect arguing with the likes of you?
@zhrmod I see. So, when someone disagrees with you, you call them names, and because you called them that name, it becomes fact. But when someone who disagrees with you calls someone else names, it's just delusional. Yeah, that sounds really logical. I will not delete your comment, because I'm enjoying demonstrating how full of shit you are. Again, you had no counter arguments to those presented in this video. You called me names, and that makes the sum total of your response thus far.
@zhrmod Furthermore, as a demonstration of how open I am to challenges, I invite you to make a response video. I will *happily* approve it so long as you approve all my responses to any videos you should make. Still want to claim I'm a coward? Show how courageous you are and step in the ring with me. I'm so confident my ideas can stand up to a challenge, that I will INVITE you to a video debate. Are you going to pussy out, or will you accept my challenge? Yes or no?
Oh shut up asshole I didn't call you names until now.. What an asshole..
Seldom does ignorance come alone.. You are "blessed with arrogance too.
As I said your definion of racism is just fucked up for your own convenience.. What is there to debate when you just cll names and then like any bitch claim that I do. Continue preaching for the already salvaged. Asshole.
@zhrmod Oh, yes, "delusional" is not a name. Nooo. Not at all. And now, you add to that "asshole," "ignorant," and "fucked up." And then you conclude with yet another "asshole" as if the first two times weren't enough. So, you still remain incapable of providing a single counter argument. And why preach to anyone when dumbasses like you demonstrate quite clearly how much I'm making irrefutable arguments? Keep it up. I appreciate the help you're providing. Come back anytime.
@zhrmod I don't call it reason. I demonstrate convincingly that I am reasonable. One of my most powerful tools is that my opponents, such as yourself, have no counter arguments to offer. What more proof do people need that I'm making a very valid point? Arguing with me hasn't brought you down in the mud. Your defeat in this debate did. And I will keep promoting my ideas and showing that my opponents have nothing to offer in the way of counter arguments. Thanks for your help.
just to let you know kkilo34, when I try to watch your videos a big screen comes up on my computer saying that the content is racist and I have to confirm that I want to watch your vids; kkilo34's videos are not racist they are simply stating facts; also some black person contacted me on my page and left a comment that I should not be watching your videos :( delete-that is what was done to them=noone tells me what to watch or to believe, keep the videos coming they are great
@pugdogy Thanks. I welcome debate. I think my ideas should be challenged. But when all my opponents can do is call me a racist, even when I directly argue against any suggestion that there is anything flawed about any race, it suggests I must be making irrefutable arguments.
a very popular trend going on in America right now through the media is purposely not airing news that deals with the increasing violence of blacks on innocent whites; through this neglect of the media this uncalled for violence is allowed to increase and also be denied that it ever occured; it is only through youtube that US citizens get to publish the truth; thank you soooooo much for your videos in bringing the truth to the people and keep up the excellent work
First off, what is this idea of successful white men "exploiting the black race" to become successful? That's not a common idealogy. The concept of privilege concerns the opportunities and lack of opposition and negative stereotypes you encounter because of your race, gender etc. You sound as if you don't actually know what privilege is. Do you also believe you have no male privilege either?
@SuperHighlife25 When you claim that whites are discriminating against you, you are making an accusation based on skin color. Whites aren't doing this. Sorry, but they're not. As a white person, I can assure you that whites, with few exceptions, have an absolute social intolerance of racism. The belief we are discriminating is based entirely on racial prejudice. Quite frankly, you're an anti-white bigot that wants to racially scapegoat whites for blacks' failures. And there is no male privilege.
@kkilo34 You didn't address anything I said. I didn't claim that whites are discriminating against blacks. Was this response even meant for me? I simply gave a brief description of what privilege is to highlight the fact that this video doesn't truly address it. I also asked if you also believe that you have no male privilege. You have addressed a statement I didn't make and failed to answer the question that I actually did ask. A straight answer from you would expose your inaccuracies.
@SuperHighlife25 "I didn't claim that whites are discriminating against blacks." Yes you did.
It's right here: "The concept of privilege concerns the opportunities and lack of opposition and negative stereotypes you encounter because of your race, gender etc."
@SuperHighlife25 "I also asked if you also believe that you have no male privilege."
And here's what I wrote: "And there is no male privilege."
I'm not sure what part of "And there is no male privilege" you feel didn't answer the question about whether I believe I have male privilege. And you claim to be exposing my inaccuracies? Do you even actually read what you type before you post it?
@GoddessOfLight08 Clearly you've never considered the very racist undertones that inform the concept of white privilege. And clearly, if I were not making some very strong arguments, you'd be able to point out a flaw in my reasoning. Instead, all you did was call it "bull," which shows you can't actually refute what I saying.
that you do not have privilege in being white? What is the representation of races in Congress, look at what different races hold certain jobs… I am not trying to say that you have not had a struggle you have needed to overcome or somehow you must bear this responsibility but rather I am asking that you understand that you do benefit from a system that gives you a certain amount of privilege.
@nbsffreak212 So, if whites are successful at higher rates than blacks, it's proof that whites have some racial privilege? This is racial bigotry. It's an automatic assumption that blacks cannot in any way be responsible for their own high rates of failure. You're racially scapegoating whites and assuming that blacks are failing not because of any choices they make in life, but rather because of something those evil whites are doing to them. It's bigotry. Nothing more.
wealth and the networks that would allow you to be successful. What do we have? All previous laws excluded us from any participation that would allow us a build-up of wealth, we lack social connections because we were not allowed to participate in any institutions beyond being cheap and easy to manipulate by your people. Where does that leave us now…. When your people have had hundreds of more years in social, political and economic dominance, whereas we have had none.. Are you saying that
@nbsffreak212 "What do we have? " Tons of opportunity. See my video "Black People Are Not Oppressed (Education Edition)," which will show you that even when black people are placed in affluent neighborhoods with good schools, they still fail. It's not because of any inherent flaw in their genetics. That's racism. But it IS because their culture teaches them to behave in self-defeating ways. Whites are not responsible for blacks' bad choices in life and no one should feel sorry for them.
I think we can both agree that Whites at this time were able to accumulate much wealth, property and establish themselves with the proper social tools they needed for success. Then African Americans and Chicano people slowly began to receive the LEGAL rights that would create equality. Yet what you don’t take into account are the differences in our “equality”. You have had 300+ years, more if you count the time your families had to build their wealth in Europe, to create wealth
@nbsffreak212 There are MANY poor immigrants that come to America and move into the middle class IN A SINGLE GENERATION. Yet, blacks have had multiple generations, and they are still failing. Even in this comment, you can see the reasons why. Blacks simply dismiss any personal responsibility for their failures. Instead, they racially scapegoat whites and insist that they're always at some disadvantage. They're not. They just choose not to do the things that makes one successful.
I don't think that people such as Tim Wise and my classmate that learn about not only White Privilege but also Straight and Male privilege don't advocate a violent taking of your resources. I fully understand Tim Wise's arguments; just imagine a world where white was the only thing that was right. That was the world that existed just over a hundred years ago. Now imagine the playing field that created eg the laws and preferences that were reinforced through the time.
@nbsffreak212 Again, this is the victim mentality that is so much a part of black culture today. Wow, you mean sitting around insisting you're a bunch of helpless children perpetually weak in the face of other race's power and demanding everyone take care of you hasn't resulted in widespread prosperity? Who'd of thunk??? Yes, you fail in life precisely because cry all day about how everyone owes you something. Life is hard for everyone. Get over yourself. This is what equality looks like.
@nbsffreak212 White people did that to all indigenous people? I'm white and have never done anything to indigenous people? Oooh, I get it. You judge all those with light skin by the crimes of the few. You know who else does that? White racists. They take black crime statistics and say "Look at what blacks do to us!" Pat yourself on the back. You think just like a white racist. Your mamma should be proud of what you've become.
Cont: Mugabe's wrath!! Ur video is selective and highly misleading at best.. .. How did all those white farmers come into posession of the most fertile lands to begin with? I'll tell u: Force, disguised as mission programs by the catholic church! Plus, Mugabe didn't kill or terrorize nearly as many whites as Ian Smiths government did 2 the black who were fighting for independence. Now, u've got d nerve 2 compare blacks 2 Nazis and other white supremacists?!?! Gimme a break! U must b on drugs!!
It was more than poor economic standing of the Germans that gave rise to the Nazi's. And because Whites did all the plundering in the past, it has given their decedents privilege of today. All of them don't have the equal amount of privilege. And privilege is not only in money. But what we as Blacks, Whites and all other races are divided on is power and class. Yes Black racism is wrong just like the racism that gave it to them was wrong, Any who come in a hateful tone is not right.
u2hubbard 1 week ago
@u2hubbard Wrong. Whites do not receive benefits from any plunderings of the past. There's not a shred of economic evidence that shows anyone's wealth of any race can be traced back to deeds done centuries ago.
kkilo34 1 week ago
@kkilo34 Have you ever seen guns, germs and steel? Whites as a race had power with no moral restraint. You can deny the existence of White privilege all you want but I'm gonna only take you as someone who wants to maintain the power and privilege of the White race by nonchalant and wanting everyone to turn a blind eye. We are not asking Whites to feel "guilty" and we do acknowledge that every White person doesnot have the same level of power and privilege. And classism is the ultimate
u2hubbard 1 week ago
@u2hubbard Okay, and I'm going to take you as a black supremacist who is so committed to the moral superiority of your race that you have to demonize those whose skin color is lighter than yours. That is, after all, your true motivation.
kkilo34 1 week ago
@kkilo34 enemy of humanity. But classism and racism stem from the same place. And that is European imperialism. You can afford to look at everything through the eyes of individualism but when your collectives power comes into challenge you naturally defend it. Yes I give credit to the White race for inventing the airline the automobile, and the things we are talking on right now, the computer/internet. But that doesnot mean they are racially superior.
u2hubbard 1 week ago
@u2hubbard I never argued they were racially superior. You are, however, arguing that they are inherently evil and responsible for the problems of other races. Yes, we tend to be more successful, and at one time our success derived from the exploitation of others. We evolved beyond that, and today, in most cases, our success is derived through the legitimate creation of good economic opportunities as a result of hard work, smart decisions, and personal responsibility.
kkilo34 1 week ago
i'm sorry if you think the term "white privilege" is a racist term or anti-white.
it's a hard topic but people don't care anymore. people want things to change for the sake of peace and less drama, .....
and staying quiet isn't going to do that.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow Well, I'm sorry you think whites are to blame for the problems in the world. And its' fine if you want to promote anti-white bigotry as a means to solve the world's problems. But understand, whites are getting tired of being racially scapegoated for those problems, and we will fight you. We will speak out and expose you for the bigots you are. You will be labeled a racist, and you will be treated like any racist. And that's something you might want to consider before you preach hate.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
answer me this-
can you picture yourself being married to a person with dark skin?
would you be able to walk through a peaceful neighborhood of color without freaking out?
have you ever had sex with a person of another race?
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "can you picture yourself being married to a person with dark skin?" Sure.
"would you be able to walk through a peaceful neighborhood of color without freaking out?" I've done it many times.
"have you ever had sex with a person of another race?" More than once.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
and if you do want to know more about other cultures, you wouldn't deny the differences, but you also wouldn't judge other cultures.
but you don't care about others, other than who you think is like you.
i have news for you.
you aren't the center of the world.
no one is.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "but you also wouldn't judge other cultures." White people have a culture too. You are judging them.
"you aren't the center of the world." Never claimed I was.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
"..... "you aren't the center of the world." Never claimed I was. "
but you don't want to have anything to do with other cultures.
that's why i say you are not the center of the world.
you don't have to literally say something. it's obvious.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "but you don't want to have anything to do with other cultures." Yes I do. I live and work with non-white people everyday. Why would you assume otherwise? Is it because you have certain assumptions about people with my skin color and just assume we're all isolated racists? I would say that's almost certainly the cause of your misguided beliefs.
"you don't have to literally say something. it's obvious." Obvious to people like you with your racial prejudice of people with white skin.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
OH THAT'S GREAT!!!!
let's now find out how you feel about these people of color.
how close are you to them?????
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow How close do I need to be? Do you go out of your way to be close to white people? Tell me what you've done to increase your closeness to whites lately? I'm going to scrutinize your ability to form relationships with white people and see just how much you're doing to get close them. And if I determine you're not, I'm going to label you a racist. Sound fair? But that's what you're doing to me? Why do you not want to be treated as you treat whites?
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
".... Do you go out of your way to be close to white people? Tell me what you've done to increase your closeness to whites lately..."
i guess you did answer the question, in a way. you don't intermingle with anyone other than whites.
as for me, i don't care what race you are. race doesn't matter and it shouldn't matter.
all that matters to me is if the person is rational, respectful, a good person, and friendly.
i find a lot of white people to fit in the category.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "you don't intermingle with anyone other than whites." That is not what I said. Why are you blatantly lying about what I said? Here's a direct quote from me: " I've never had a bad relationship with a black co-worker. And I currently have many Hispanic friends." Your'e being ridiculously dishonest. Why?
"i don't care what race you are." We feel the same then.
I'm glad you understand a person's race will not determine their quality or lack thereof as a person.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
when i tell you that i would defend a stranger if the person was being harassed by another. i wouldn't care what race the person is that includes you.
you might feel threatened of the term "white privilege", but try to understand there are many white people that believe it too.
it's not meant to cause fear. it's meant to wake people up to unconscious racism.
though we disagree, i think you would say i was a good person if we ever met.
peace to you kkilo34.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow I thought race didn't matter. Yet, here you're arguing that the fact SOME whites agree with it somehow lends weight to the this very racist concept. It doesn't, nor does it refute the arguments I made in this video.You may be threatened by the concept that blacks cause their own failures, but to suggest whites cause them is racial scapegoating and bigotry. And I will challenge it constantly, and show the inherent racist ideas that lie within its message. And more and more are joining me.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
i have to go to work now, but i'll be back to see how integrated you are with others. i'll be back later. thank you kkilo34.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow And we'll be talking about your integration skills with whites as well. What have you done to prove your ability to practice and integrate yourself into white culture. I'm Celtic. Tell me what you know about Irish history and Celtic music. I eagerly await your response to determine whether or not you hate whites, as evidenced by your knowledge an appreciation of my culture. A failure to do so will prove you're hate whites and want them all to die. You like your own medicine? We'll see.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
did you know that redirecting is similar to denying?
you never answered the question i asked you.
as for your question to me, do i need to study celtic music to have an irish friend?
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "you never answered the question i asked you." Actually I did. I showed the manipulation behind it. You know nothing about Celtic culture. Does that mean you hate people of Celtic descent? I don't currently have any black friends, but I have had them in the past. And I've never had a bad relationship with a black co-worker. And I currently have many Hispanic friends. I'm closest to whites in my life, but can you claim you're closer to whites than blacks? What does that say about you?
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
lol, i am closer to whites than blacks.
as for understanding celtic culture, why should i
have to study celtic culture to have white friends?
YOU'RE BEING IRRATIONAL.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "lol, i am closer to whites than blacks." Okay, is that true of all blacks? Would the fact that blacks tend to be closer to other blacks prove how much they hate whites?
"as for understanding celtic culture, why should i" Precisely. That's my point. Did you miss it? I guess so. You SHOULDN'T have to know, and the fact you don't says nothing about you. The same is true for my relationships/knowledge or lack thereof with non-whites.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
well blacks stay together because it's hard for blacks to relate with cultures too. but being isolated is not going to help you or me.
it's good to know other races.
it gives a person a better perspective on life.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "but being isolated is not going to help you or me." Frankly, I think forcing people to associate with others will generate resentment, and a tendency to want to be around people like you is not going to necessarily result in hatred of those who are different or signify any such hatred existed. But I've always lived around racial minorities, have never been segregated, and have no interest in changing that.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
i'm not trying to force anyone to have friendly relations with other races, but it sure does help.
have a good evening.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
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@kkilo34
The reality of human nature is, we have low-level software to make us loyal to those we see as part of our tribe.
Blacks naturally want to be around other blacks. They may have white and asian friends of course, but they are most comfortable around other blacks. This is also true of whites and asians. And that's just the race aspect, not the social class or religious aspect.
Does that mean that Everyone is Inherently racist because they want to be around people like them?
No.
WitheringintheDark 2 weeks ago
@sk8bow "YOU'RE BEING IRRATIONAL." I was mocking you. How you missed that is a mystery.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
the idea of white privilege is to help cultures understand each other and bring them together.
the denial of white privilege keeps the cultures divided.
you can deny it all you want.
deniers become the minority since people tend to like less dramatic and less stress in their lives.
what i'm saying is we are slowly coming together whether you like it or not.
have a nice day, ...neighbor. :)
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow Nothing about this comment does anything to refute the arguments made in this video. Instead, this person is arguing for ideological conformity by saying that people disagreeing with each other divides communities. This is precisely the kind of intolerant bigotry that the concept of white privilege is based on. There is no white privilege. There's just anti-white bigots who want to disguise their hatred of white people as a crusade for community empowerment. Nazis use similar techniques.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
all i know is that it's easier for whites, blacks, asians, latinos, whoever to talk about race now more than ever.
we can only be scared for so long until we realize we have to cross that bridge.
lol, disguise their hatred for whites?
you're in denial.
you have just exposed your true feelings, and your set ways is why you only have a small percentage of the world's support.
keep denying.
it's you have in the end.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow That's wonderful that you can claim that someone that disagrees with you is "denying." Yet, you can't actually demonstrate your position has any merits whatsoever. Let's just leave it at that. Everyone, watch this video and all the arguments I have showing the inherent anti-bigotry in the concept of "white privilege." Sk8bow's only response to it is to claim I'm "denying." You be the judge. Who's making a stronger case?
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
i'm making the stronger case.
a person who is likely to believe in wp is more likely to be tolerant and accepting of other cultures compared to a person who denies it. it's not even a question of how much a person accepts the idea of wp. it's just a matter of wanting a connection with other cultures. that is what the idea promotes.
but it really doesn't matter what you think because all you want is division of culture.
you don't want to mingle with other cultures.
sk8bow 3 weeks ago
@sk8bow "i'm making the stronger case." What case? you claimed I'm in "denial." That's the sum total of your arguments. Now your argument is that people who agree with you are more "tolerant." So what case are you making other than people that disagree with you are intolerant and in denial? That's not a case. It's just a personal attack on those that disagree.
kkilo34 3 weeks ago
@kkilo34
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sk8bow 3 weeks ago
You are so adorable lol. now you are calling me a black supremacist with no proof and accusing me of defending Mugabe merely because i am asking you to back up your misrepresentation about him or what went on. So much substance there, yet still no evidence
keep showing how full of shit you are... you credibility just keeps rising. You keep your head lodged deep in you ass clearly. you need more support if you are gonna keep making claims on these little videos of yours
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox I know you don't see the racism that informs your ideas, but I don't need you to. I just need whites to see it, and more and more of them are. When they see what bigots you are, they realize you're not victims. I realize I get no support from black racists like you, but you're not my target audience.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox And let the record show that you were unable to provide a shred of evidence that any, much less most, of the white farmers who were deprived of their land did not have deeds to their land from the post-independence government. So why should anyone believe your claims? You can't even seem to make a video to demonstrate the strengths of your positions. At least I put my ideas out there and don't make claims and then ask others to prove them untrue. How ridiculous.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Oh so know you are denying the claims you made? I don't bother making videos about useless crap and pile bullshit in. You subscribe to misguided bull crap and try to get other on your bandwagon. From my experience most are on your page, so don't worry my friend. It doesn't matter that you can't prove your "truths" of course. you can't lie to me about my country. Relax black racists/supremacists are seen for what they are just like whites are or they are not taken seriously
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox If it's your country, you'd have no problem demonstrating the truth of your claims. But you can't even point to a source, can you? I back up my claims, which had little to do with Zimbabwe per se and more about the potential for black racism, with an award-winning documentary. What do you have? Nothing. Let that stand on its own merits.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Now your video had nothing to do with Zimbabwe contrary to your claims. Tell me which award this was so I know not to take it seriously. Another biased documentary giving a simplified/romanticized view for ignorance to ride on. Africa has enough of those. I am the one making videos? its not my obligation not really validated by all this was just putting your integrity on the line for all those non ignorant white people to see for fun. I know you don't care about the black ones
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox Actually I said it had "little to do with Zimbabwe per se." You can look up what that means, as you clearly are not familiar with the term. And did you actually watch the documentary?....Then how do you know it's biased? Clearly, you're biased against it. You sure do hate any critical look at your country don't you? I guess you're not so much of a racist as you are a Zimbabwean Nationalist. Just click your heels and plug your ears. It'll be alright.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Yeah "little to do with Zimbabwe per se." contrary to your claims. Misspoke there but use that to take jab at me you need as many cheap shots as you can get. I am judging from your comments and views on it unless you are misrepresenting that documentary too? I am Zim nationalist now? Within the context of my views on white farmers... some of whom I stated were unjustly treated, keep going. I don't think i am superior to you just a much better person. bet that's lost on you
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "unless you are misrepresenting that documentary too?" Why don't you watch it and find out for yourself? And I think I'm a better person than you. So, the feeling is mutual. Glad we got that out in the open.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 You missed the undertones of my comments. You do not even see how biased you are. You place yourself on this artificial pedestal above these dumb, ignorant racists you argue with, mislabeling and forcing views because one is not on the exact same page. YOU ARE NO BETTER
All this does not add up to anything. but yours is a cause conjured up in Ignorance. You will be popular with those like you. Now you can again go ahead, misrepresent me and call me a black supremacist. go on
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "YOU ARE NO BETTER" Oh, but you're so superior to us aren't you?
kkilo34 1 month ago
I am sincerely concerned with the Issue I am ethnically Zimbabwean... half Ndebele half Shona. My mom who is Ndebele had multiple thousands of her people massacred back when Bob was a British stooge and his crap was swept under a rug and ignored. So all your proof better not point out what i already know about Bob being violent and corrupt. I am concerned with the issues of Zimbabwe. Its was a state run by a vicious dictator who carried a land grab policy racially based land grab policy
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "Its was a state run by a vicious dictator who carried a land grab policy racially based land grab policy" Um, that's what I'm saying.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 but does that mean the violence against whites there was widespread and systematic comparable to that of Nazi Germany like you suggest. Show that was the case in Zimbabwe. I had spent a few months there during the time so i will then know all the info you give is immediate crap. Show that most of the whites who owned land was given under the government.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox If you can also show that lynchings where for the most part punishment for crimes although racially based and use this to debunk all evidence and knowledge of the systematic racism and oppression of blacks. Then you will have a win on both fronts. You get racially based policies all the time does that necessarily mean they are bad... like i said i am for corrective measure of social injustices... the situation in Zimbabwe was the result of corrupt violent dictator involved.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox You really don't understand the question, do you? That's sad. Well, here's the deal. NO ONE CAN PROVE that all blacks who were lynched were not truly guilty of something. And using this to dismiss those heinous acts is the primitive thinking that only a bigot would use. But that is precisely what you are doing to dismiss the injustice whites face in Zimbabwe.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox You do understand that the Nazi reference was a comparison of ideologies and not of quantifiable actions, right? The Nazis devalidated the right of Jews to their property using very similar (not precisely exact) rationales as that contained within the concept of white privilege. In fact, I didn't even really make any direct comparisons between Hitler and Mugabe at all. Zimbabwe was ONLY an example to show that black prejudice, when given power, becomes black racism.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox Oh, but I know you'll go on insisting that white farmers in Zimbabwe deserved to have their land taken from them, and you'll find any little difference in ideologies to insist that no racial injustice ever took place in Zimbabwe. Like so many black people, you just can't own up to the fact that whites are victims of racism too. Instead, you want a monopoly on that victim label and insist no one else can ever own it the way blacks do.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 You can not use certain instances of heinous acts to paint a general picture without supporting evidence and knowledge. You don't get that sad. Which is what you are doing. I agree that those who had their land taken away through unjust means were wronged but that was a minority. There is a huge difference in ideologies.... One came out of desperation and poverty the other came out of oppression and theft. I do believe in corrective measures of social injustice
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox These are certain circumstances? What proof do you have that most white land owners did not have title to their land? I eagerly await your proof that most received land through transactions that were NOT approved by the government following independence.
kkilo34 1 month ago
Oh of course Germany had a history of racial oppression and and systematic Jewish Supremacy were the wealth was for the most part taken from them. Oh and of course Germany was also acting under accordance with the German government and had a had a redistribution policy of the livelihoods and wealth of the Jews. Its not the same thing. If blacks settled on land under those circumstances and had it taken away from because of it I would not oppose it.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox But the whites who had their land taken did not take it from blacks. They had deeds to their lands. This is the little inconvenient fact you keep trying to ignore, and every time you do, I'm going to throw it right back up in your face. You are desperate here to justify racial bigotry against whites, and that's because you're a typical black American. You have no principled opposition to racism. You just don't want it directed at blacks. Simple as that.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Prove that that was the general case of the farm owners i need a solid proof showing that most of the farm land owners had their land sold to the by the Zimbabwean government. When you inherit an entity you inherit not only the assets but its liabilities, just because you purchased something wrongfully acquired does not make it rightfully yours
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "just because you purchased something wrongfully acquired does not make it rightfully yours" Do you understand that a deed is a land document APPROVING THE SALE OF A LAND BY THE GOVERNMENT? Do you not understand this concept? So when Mugabe's government said, "Here's a deed to your land" and later said "psyche! We want your land because you're skin is white," you see nothing wrong with this?
kkilo34 1 month ago
Prove that that was the general case. for a few it was like "here is the land we are acting in accordance to the British Empire here and the land will in turn be redistributed back to the natives." "Oh the British government screwed us all the land needs to be returned". Black people that commit crimes should be punished and all the assets owned in relation to those crimes seized. No need to attack innocent blacks, non farmers where left to be. If you buy stolen asset you aren't entitled to it.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox So, what if one black man was punished for crimes he didn't commit? That would be okay, right? Then why do I have to prove that every single case of land seizure in Zimbabwe was done to someone without a deed? There's a whole movie on one white man who was tortured and killed, because he wouldn't give up his land AND he had a deed. But it's not an injustice unless it happened in every case, right? Okay, not all blacks were lynched. So, no injustice there, right?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox So...Prove that not a single black man that was lynched was actually guilty of the crimes he was accused of. If you can't do that, BY YOUR RATIONALE, then no injustice has occurred. Surely some blacks who were lynched truly were guilty. So, that makes it okay, right? Well, then why do I need to prove that every single white farmer in Zimbabwe truly purchased their land through willing buyer/willing seller, government-approved transactions before you'll accept an injustice was done?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo3 Prove that was the majority of the cases. There was also a land redistribution agreement pretense. What happened to that white man was an injustice and very unfortunate. We are talking about BOB. But was that the general case during the land grab policy prove that? I really do not have the time do get into this foolish. If you want to show that the perverse racism under that era was not what it was and the culture of lynching was simply just punishment go ahead. I won't even comment
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "Prove that was the majority of the cases. " Can you prove that the majority of lynched blacks were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of? Does that make it okay, then? But let me ask you this...if I prove that was the case...will you agree to admit that Mugabe's land reform policies are unjust? If I make a video about this agreement, will you put a comment in agreeing that if I prove this to you, you will agree that I was right? Yes or no?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox See, I think this is a stall tactic. You aren't sincerely concerned with whether or not those people had deeds to their property issued by the Mugabe government. I think you want to find a reason -- any reason -- to justify the actions against white farmers. And you're hoping that either I can't or won't find proof that they had those deeds. But I know where I can get this proof and it will take some work. I'll do it so long as you sincerely are concerned with this issue. Are you?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox " you want to show that the perverse racism under that era" I'm just using your arguments in cases of injustices by blacks. Interestingly, every time the victims are black, you have a whole new outlook on the situation.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox Again, this is based on an assumption that if whites had land and it was taken from them by people with darker skin, then the whites must of gotten through illegitimate means. Besides a general prejudice of people with white skin and an automatic assumption of innocence on the part of those with darker skin, what proof do you have that those whites did not have deeds to their land?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Look at you backtracking lol.... You are the one purporting all this crap you were so confident about proving it earlier why don't you? Apparently the history of oppression that country faced where tons of native farmers where displaced of their own land in favor of whites was imagined. I'll go tell that to my grandmother and spit on my grandfathers grave for you. It's your video you are obliged to provide evidence of your stance if that does not matter make a disclaimer!
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "Look at you backtracking lol" Actually, I'm asking the same question you did. You're the one making the initial claim. Don't you think you should be the one to provide proof that your claim has merits? And in this comment you take the crimes committed by some whites to show no whites own land. So, let's apply that to the case in America, where blacks commit so much crime. Let's take your property to compensate white victims of black crime. How about it?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "you are obliged to provide evidence of your stance" My stance is that whites are not privileged and that notion is based on something very similar to ideologies seen in white racism. And when such ideologies have power behind them, they translate into very similar actions as those faced by victims of white racism, such as that in Zimbabwe. You are arguing that those whites deserve to have their land taken from them because they have no deed. What proof do you have of this?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 If I settled on someones property unjustly and displaced them. You can take it back
You are the one who claimed that this land was sold by the government? this you were so confident of your evidence before what of that? search my profile I am not making videos about this crap or anything to be exact. So please continue to not give the evidence so it can be clear that you are full of shit
This has gotten petty i am bored with this
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "this you were so confident of your evidence before what of that?" You then claimed Mugabe was a "vicious dictator who carried a land grab policy racially based land grab policy." What of that?
In other words, you're being schizophrenic here with no actual stance on these issues. You defend Mugabe in one sentence, and then change your whole story in the next. I'm convinced you're just playing games. So, why go to show much effort for someone who just doesn't seem sincere?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "i am bored with this" You're bored? You think you're the first black supremacist I've dealt with today? Try listening to black people all day explain that your race is so evil that they deserve whatever injustice black people dish out to them. And then in the very next sentence, they will claim to be victims of racism. Sorry...you don't know what the fuck boredom is. Try debating your people some time.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 If you really wanted an example of evil racist atrocities committed by black you could have used what happened in Uganda to the Indians... 10's of thousands were exiled and murder or what happened in Tanzania to the Arabs i think 100's of thousands were massacred. See blacks can be evil too you happy? But these events just flew under your radar of course. White people are not involved... But 11 white people due to a land grab gone violent and that gets compared to Nazi Germany.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "See blacks can be evil too you happy?" Yes, actually.
kkilo34 1 month ago
Is your head stuck so far up your own ass you do not see sarcasm. where did i say "blacks are not capable or inclined to such evil." is just mentioned that blacks have not committed atrocities against whites on a gross scale because it is true, just lake you state the achievements of whites because it is fact. You are then one who keeps purporting to everyone YOUR RATIONALE of capability for greatness good and evil. if that's your view fine, be a man don't sugar coat how full of shit you are.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "blacks have not committed atrocities against whites on a gross scale because it is true" Simple question. What does this say about blacks or white people? Clearly, you meant something by stating this fact. What did you mean to say about whites or blacks in this statement? I eagerly await your response.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 In this video the picture you painted of Zimbabwe is bullshit I understand you have a point you want to get across but cut the crap. Hence my point blacks have never done no such thing on any gross amount of scale against whites.
Great on the black statistics that have nothing to do with anything... you are like one of those racists baiting me so you have an excuse to go off on your own tangent. It's okay set your inner racist free, no need to hide who you are
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox I see you're not going to answer my question. So, I guess it would reveal too much truth about your own agenda.
Fact: Mugabe took lands from whites based on a racist ideology. Fact: You excuse and dismiss this action, and desperately try to insist that blacks are not capable of the kinds of evil racism that whites once engaged in. And you will use the most ridiculous rationales to justify blacks doing racist evils to whites. So, Mugabe hasn't killed 6 million whites. What if he could?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 ughhh you just don't quit do you. i meant is there some systematic policy for black people have to commit crimes, have out of wedlock children and all that crap purported by blacks.... wasn't blaming anything on whites there. I am sorry you can keep trying but i am not going to say what you want me to say or give you the answers you want.... Like i said if you want set your inner racist free and go of on your own tangent you can, its the net there is anonymity and free speech
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "here some systematic policy for black people have to commit crimes" Oooh. So a "policy" makes blacks do bad things. Tell me...what makes whites do bad things? Who's responsible for their bad choices? Are white people?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox Oh, and hey...can you tell everyone here what my "agenda" is? I'd like you to tell everyone who may be reading these comments what you think my "agenda" is. Please...tell us.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "Great on the black statistics that have nothing to do with anything"
Yes, and slavery has nothing to do with anything, does it? Jim Crow has nothing do with anything, does it? Segregation has nothing to do with anything, does it?
Isn't it interesting that when blacks do evil to whites, it "has nothing to do with anything." But when whites do evil to blacks, every person with that skin color should lose their land to pay for that evil. And you tell me I have an agenda?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 To do with our topic. You are talking random stats... are these facts the result of systemic policies pushed forth by blacks themselves. They are if anything the result of poor socio economic backgrounds.
You are painting a false picture and trying to simplify and issue that is not black and white. Fail. Show me how i am being ridiculous and where i said black are not capable of evil racism. stop twisting my words. You do have an agenda i fine with it but relax with the bull
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "are these facts the result of systemic policies pushed forth by blacks themselves"
Ah, I see. So when blacks do evil to whites, whites make them do it, right? So, who made whites do Jim Crow, Segregation, and slavery? That was white people too, right? So, whites are just inherently evil, and blacks only do evil when whites make them, right?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox And remember..I was just stating facts like you were. Isn't it interesting that you're trying to defend black people? I wasn't doing anything other than stating some innocent facts. Yet, you seem to think I was saying something about black people by stating these innocent facts just like you were just stating some facts about whites. Isn't that interesting that when I just state some "facts," you think that maybe I'm trying to say something about blacks? Hmmm. Why is that?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 I am explaining why you facts are not in relation to evil racism. What do your facts have to do with the topic of the video exactly? nothing is that not suspect. If i went around stating random facts that have no relation to this discussion that paint whites in a bad light then i would get your stance. I have done no such thing. Stop trying to bait me it is cheap and pathetic
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "hat do your facts have to do with the topic of the video exactly?" I'm just stating some innocent facts like you were just stating some innocent facts. Why is it when you state facts about actions people with white skin have taken, it's not saying anything about the white race, but when I do *the exact same thing* with respect to actions blacks take, it says something about your race? Why can't you just answer this question? It's pretty straight forward, I think.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox So, it's because I was somehow off topic? Okay, but we are talking about race, are we not? And we are talking about racism, are we not? So...explain to anyone who may be reading these comments...how were my "facts" about black people not appropriate to a discussion on race and racism? Is racism a discussion in which only people with white skin should be discussed? Please...explain this to us. I'm eager to hear your explanation.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 grasping for straws i see. Let me try address all your queries wait till i am finished pt 1. A fraction of this video is to show that black supremacists are capable of carrying out systemic racial acts of violence against whites similar to that of Nazi Germany... you false did this through the land grab policy in Zimbabwe. I pointed out it was racist but not the picture you paint and these sorts of gross system acts of oppression against whites didn't occur
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "these sorts of gross system acts of oppression against whites " You don't think depriving people of a certain racial group of land through violence is oppressive? If you were deprived of land through violence, would you consider it oppressive? You're trying to split hairs to make one evil seem more justified. Sure there are differences between German and Zimbabwe. But that doesn't make Mugabe's actions any more moral. Or does it? If not, why even raise an issue?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Again please leave out the history on the land in the country and the land redistribution arrangement that had been constructed. If land grab policy turned Zimbabwe into Nazi Germany how come not many whites died and how come whites that where not farm owners were left to be. You are trying to paint that picture here which is bull shit and false yes wrongs were committed, it happens but that was not the general case. We are going around in circles here
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox That's like saying, leave out the history of poverty in Germany when you consider the Holocaust. Again, these farmers didn't take the land. They were just white. And again, you're arguing it's perfectly acceptable to steal land from people of a certain skin color. Okay. But what if it happened to you for being black? Oh, but that's different right? Because people with your skin color deserve what you own, but not people who are white.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "trying to paint that picture" You are too. You're taking a blatant act of racial injustice against whites and trying to put rose pedals all over it. Keep painting giant black turds all you want. Fact is, you'll be exposing the truth. Black Americans have no principled opposition to racism. They ONLY oppose racism when it's directed at blacks. And I just want whites to see this, because then they'll start wondering how blacks can be victims of something they promote against others.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 I am sorry i am all for corrective measures of social injustices and i am not ashamed of it be it for blacks, whites, whatever. When you inherit and entity you also inherit its liabilities. I am sorry that not enough acts of oppression have been committed against whites by blacks so i can prove my view is racialist but it isn't you can just keep making false accusation on my part to get your agenda across anything to get it done right?
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "I am sorry i am all for corrective measures of social injustices" Okay. So am I. Black people commit a far higher rate of crime than whites. This costs white people a lot. Tell me, what do you think we should take from you to correct these social injustices? I know, that's different. Because you have no principled opposition to racism. You love it...unless it's directed at your race.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox Oh...and let me state a few facts. Black people commit crime at far higher rates than whites. Black people commit rape at far higher rates than whites. A full 70% of all black kids are born to single mothers and most will have absent fathers. Blacks drop out of high school at higher rates than whites, and don't pursue higher education at the same rates as whites. Remember...I'm just stating facts. I'm not trying to say anything about blacks. Nope. Just stating innocent facts here.
kkilo34 1 month ago
The British Empire has long since reneged the support of Mugabe thanks to the land reform Policy, convenient. But they were busy knighting him, praising and supporting him while he was massacring 10' of thousands of his own people. If you want to look at his propensity for evil look at that. Again there was a land redistribution agreement reneged on. Prove that that was the general case... not some court order/sanction that indicated it happened. These guys never show bias or take sides right?
kesomox 1 month ago
@geetarslim306 I have never experienced any privilege for my skin color at any time in my life. So, why would I feel any guilt? I don't. And that's what irks my opponents so much. I'm showing whites that they are not responsible for the problems blacks experience. We are more successful because we behave in ways that foster more success. Blacks are just as capable of doing so. They simply choose not to and then racially scapegoat whites for their problems.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Comparing Zimbabwe to Nazi Germany? While the land reform policy was racist it was carried out due mostly to the Lancestor agreement that the British Empire reneged on. White people not under that bracket were not under attack and left to be. Maybe he is specifically white farmer Nazi lol. Go to Zimbabwe chances are you as white man will be treated better than any black person. It's clear what you are trying to accomplish here but relax with the bullshit
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "White people not under that bracket were not under attack and left to be." Wrong. Mugabe's land reforms targeted willing-buyer/willing-seller white land owners, in which the land owners had deeds issued to their land BY MUGABE'S GOVERNMENT. They were not just deprived of their property against international court orders, the owners faced violence, including torture, murder, and rape. So, your claims here are flat false. See "Mugabe and the White African" for more information.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 you clearly do not know about the land agreement with the British Empire. Also you are trying to paint the picture that was the general case of the landowners, these biased documentaries can be misleading I have been you are trust me. Do you know what the death toll resulting from the violence was 11 although not to be taken lightly that hardly constitutes as genocide. Mugabe was a violent dictator. Like i said White farmer Nazi sure but flat out racial extremist stretch
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "these biased documentaries" They're based on stories of the actual people involved. They're not dramas. So your claim they're "biased" denies the fact that we're talking eye-witness account. The proof is on film. And at no time did I mention anything about genocide. Who precisely are you debating about genocide? No one here is used that word or any word like it. Only you did. Let's stick to what's actually being said and not the imagined conversation inside your head, shall we?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 You are drawing a comparison of Zimbabwe to that of Nazi Germany. My claim denies that it was a widespread racial extremist attack on whites, like what happened in Germany to the Jews. It was about reclaiming farm land, was racially based and violence ensued due to resistance. a few individuals experience does not constitute a general overview. People do over dramatize and over exaggerate to push forth their own agenda. It's fine you have your own but relax with the bullshit
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox Are you seriously going to argue that Mugabe wouldn't pursue the extent of power as Hitler had would he have the ability to do so? You are trying to equate moral restraint with inability. The Nazis were simply more successful racists than Mugabe. But being less effective at evil is not the same as being more good. And the Nazis also claimed they were just taking property that was rightfully theirs. Pat yourself on the back.You argue the same points as the Nazis did.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 What I am saying is that he didn't when he could have... it was a land reform policy turned violent. Other whites were left to be, they are not all farmers. In Nazi Germany it was clearly a widespread genocidal attack on the Jews. Can you show that? Oh right no black racial extremists are just that incompetent lol. I get your agenda it's cute... there are pretty awful acts within Africa that occurred but unfortunately they don't involve whites. Again relax with the bullshit
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "Other whites were left to be" Wrong. All white farmers were targeted without exception. You keep trying to argue that black people exist on a higher moral plane. But they don't. They haven't been as successful at good OR evil as whites, but one's race does not determine their moral potential. You keep telling me to "stop with the bullshit" while telling outright lies about Mugabe's land reform policies. That's very amusing and exposes your agenda quite clearly: black supremacy.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 lol you are making up this conversation in you head now? It was a land reform policy so obviously white farmers that owned land were under attack if they did not subdue as for the OTHER WHITES THAT WERE NOT FARMERS, they were left to be. Is that clear now? I obviously do not think of blacks on a higher moral plane hence my mention of the "awful acts that have occurred within Africa." "They haven't been as successful at good or evil" lmao climb out of your own ass already
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "they were left to be." In other words, whites were only targeted if they had anything of value to take, like land. Yes, that may be true that poor whites with nothing to steal were left alone.
And the point about blacks never having committed as much evil as whites was YOUR point. You use this to suggest blacks are "better" than whites. Well, whites were ALSO more successful at good. Why is it only evil acts say something about whites but not good ones? Explain that to us, Kesomox.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Most White Zimbabweans are well off farm or no farm. The poor comprise of a miniscule percentage. Why are putting words in my mouth? Where did i say any of that crap you accuse me of? If that's is all that is left of you then I will leave you to discuss with yourself. lol Again pull your head out of your own ass..."Why is it only evil acts say something about whites but not good ones?" this is the world we live in, the same goes for all races or are you for white privilege
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox You said: "white farmers that owned land were under attack"
How am I putting words in your mouth? I'm deconstructing your arguments to show the racism within it. You think it's perfectly acceptable to steal land from people with white skin, even when that land was purchased through a transaction approved by Mugabe's government. If black people anywhere were having land taken from them would you think it's okay if blacks with no land were left alone? Yes or no?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "this is the world we live in" You didn't answer the question. You claim that since whites were involved in the worst acts of racism, that shows that whites are more capable of racism than black people. Okay, let's go with that. Whites have also cured more diseases, founded more successful business and nations, and created more technological advancements than blacks. So, that shows that whites are more capable of doing good things than blacks, right? Why not?
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 It only involved FARM land. Prove most of the land was obtained that way. It was obtained on a system of oppression and an understanding of land redistribution. You forget at one time Robert Mugabe was a stooge for the British Empire he did all according to their wishes they loved him, so much he was even knighted. That changed in the past decade or so. If blacks settled on land on those terms and had it taken away I would understand. It's not a clear black and white issue.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "Prove most of the land was obtained that way." International courts condemned the actions of Mugabe's land reforms due to the fact the lands being taken were purchased through willing buyer/willing seller transactions in which duties were paid to the Mugabe government for a deed approving the land. Would you like to see some references? I have several. I'd be happy to send them to you.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox "Robert Mugabe was a stooge for the British Empire" Yes, and they have long since renounced their support. All his honorary degrees were revoked as well.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kesomox I also noticed you avoided my question. I'll keep asking to see how many times you do avoid it. You claim that since whites were associated with many atrocities, that shows that blacks aren't inclined or capable of the evil whites are. Okay, but whites are associated with most technological advancements, economic advancements, and social ones as well. So, that would, by your rationale, demonstrate that blacks are not inclined or capable of those things, right? Yes or no? Score:1/0.
kkilo34 1 month ago
@kkilo34 Pt 2 let us bask in the splendor of whites ability to oppress most of the third world for the their own benefit and do acts both good and evil according to how they see fit. Humanities optimum propensity for good, evil and progress rests in their hands (go figure) we would be nowhere without the great white man lol. I don't agree with either. Whites have a right to be proud of their accomplishments if they want. Some people are capable of good, some bad its not a race thing.
kesomox 1 month ago
@kesomox "we would be nowhere without the great white man" I didn't make this argument. You did. You said that since whites were associated with atrocity, it showed that blacks are not capable or inclined to such evil. Okay, BY YOUR RATIONALE, since whites are associated with most advancement, blacks are not capable or inclined towards such good acts either. Instead of trying to put words in my mouth, why not just admit your claim here was utter bullshit and that whites are not inherently evil?
kkilo34 1 month ago
You white folks have always been disingenuous
to black people. You're just now getting a taste of your own medicine.
That's what karma does to people who think they're so superior to everyone else.
PastBeta 2 months ago
@PastBeta I never done anything to black people. Of course, like most black people today, you're a bigot. You judge all people with white skin by crimes committed long ago. Interestingly, when you're assumed to be a criminal based on blacks' high rates of crime TODAY, you claim it's "racism." But when you do it to whites, you call it "karma." Fact is, black people are extremely racist, and I appreciate you expressing your bigoted ideas so everyone can see just how racist blacks have become.
kkilo34 2 months ago
Nobody talks about “Chinese privilege” in China. Nobody talks about “Haitian privilege” in Haiti. Nobody talks about “Japanese privilege” in Japan. Nobody talks about “Somalian privilege” in Somalia. Antiracists talk about “white privilege” in white nations, ONLY white nations. They say they are antiracist. What they are is antiwhite. Antiracist is a code word for antiwhite.
cooeypig 2 months ago
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PastBeta 2 months ago
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@cooeypig - The Chinese, Haitian, Japanese, and Somalians
were not colonialists ! Your white history is the reason there's
intermixing. You couldn't keep to your own native land (Europe)
Instead, you meddled into countries that wasn't rightfully yours !
THAT'S THE REASON FOR ALL THIS ANTI-WHITE ANGER !
You should've thought about racial purity BEFORE leaving Europe, ASSHOLE !
IT'S TOO LATE, NOW ! DEAL WITH IT !
PastBeta 2 months ago
Calling Mugabe names, huh?
Black reactionist is not racism.. Your definition of racism is so convenient to you.
This video uploader is so dillusional that it hurts.
zhrmod 2 months ago
@zhrmod I love this comment. The guy criticizes me for calling Mugabe names just before he calls me names. And at no time does he offer a single counter argument to any presented in this video. He hates what I say, but he can't demonstrate any flaws in my reasoning.
kkilo34 2 months ago
@kkilo34
I just called dellusioned which is a fact- There is absolutely no comparison to the many strong words you used what you say on the vid and my comment are there for all to see ;).. But of course cowards like you only "preach" to the already "salvaged" ;)
My fault.. What can I expect arguing with the likes of you?
Come on I know you will delete this comment :D
zhrmod 2 months ago
@zhrmod I see. So, when someone disagrees with you, you call them names, and because you called them that name, it becomes fact. But when someone who disagrees with you calls someone else names, it's just delusional. Yeah, that sounds really logical. I will not delete your comment, because I'm enjoying demonstrating how full of shit you are. Again, you had no counter arguments to those presented in this video. You called me names, and that makes the sum total of your response thus far.
kkilo34 2 months ago
@zhrmod Furthermore, as a demonstration of how open I am to challenges, I invite you to make a response video. I will *happily* approve it so long as you approve all my responses to any videos you should make. Still want to claim I'm a coward? Show how courageous you are and step in the ring with me. I'm so confident my ideas can stand up to a challenge, that I will INVITE you to a video debate. Are you going to pussy out, or will you accept my challenge? Yes or no?
kkilo34 2 months ago
@kkilo34
Oh shut up asshole I didn't call you names until now.. What an asshole..
Seldom does ignorance come alone.. You are "blessed with arrogance too.
As I said your definion of racism is just fucked up for your own convenience.. What is there to debate when you just cll names and then like any bitch claim that I do. Continue preaching for the already salvaged. Asshole.
zhrmod 2 months ago
@zhrmod Oh, yes, "delusional" is not a name. Nooo. Not at all. And now, you add to that "asshole," "ignorant," and "fucked up." And then you conclude with yet another "asshole" as if the first two times weren't enough. So, you still remain incapable of providing a single counter argument. And why preach to anyone when dumbasses like you demonstrate quite clearly how much I'm making irrefutable arguments? Keep it up. I appreciate the help you're providing. Come back anytime.
kkilo34 2 months ago
@kkilo34
oh yeah since most of your audience are salvaged then you can get away with whatever and call it reason.Isn't that delusioned enough?
Old proverb. Argue with a brothel-ma'am and you brought yourself down to the mud.
Goodbye ma'am and keep on spreading shit.
zhrmod 2 months ago
@zhrmod I don't call it reason. I demonstrate convincingly that I am reasonable. One of my most powerful tools is that my opponents, such as yourself, have no counter arguments to offer. What more proof do people need that I'm making a very valid point? Arguing with me hasn't brought you down in the mud. Your defeat in this debate did. And I will keep promoting my ideas and showing that my opponents have nothing to offer in the way of counter arguments. Thanks for your help.
kkilo34 2 months ago
just to let you know kkilo34, when I try to watch your videos a big screen comes up on my computer saying that the content is racist and I have to confirm that I want to watch your vids; kkilo34's videos are not racist they are simply stating facts; also some black person contacted me on my page and left a comment that I should not be watching your videos :( delete-that is what was done to them=noone tells me what to watch or to believe, keep the videos coming they are great
pugdogy 2 months ago
@pugdogy Thanks. I welcome debate. I think my ideas should be challenged. But when all my opponents can do is call me a racist, even when I directly argue against any suggestion that there is anything flawed about any race, it suggests I must be making irrefutable arguments.
kkilo34 2 months ago
a very popular trend going on in America right now through the media is purposely not airing news that deals with the increasing violence of blacks on innocent whites; through this neglect of the media this uncalled for violence is allowed to increase and also be denied that it ever occured; it is only through youtube that US citizens get to publish the truth; thank you soooooo much for your videos in bringing the truth to the people and keep up the excellent work
pugdogy 2 months ago
First off, what is this idea of successful white men "exploiting the black race" to become successful? That's not a common idealogy. The concept of privilege concerns the opportunities and lack of opposition and negative stereotypes you encounter because of your race, gender etc. You sound as if you don't actually know what privilege is. Do you also believe you have no male privilege either?
SuperHighlife25 2 months ago
@SuperHighlife25 When you claim that whites are discriminating against you, you are making an accusation based on skin color. Whites aren't doing this. Sorry, but they're not. As a white person, I can assure you that whites, with few exceptions, have an absolute social intolerance of racism. The belief we are discriminating is based entirely on racial prejudice. Quite frankly, you're an anti-white bigot that wants to racially scapegoat whites for blacks' failures. And there is no male privilege.
kkilo34 2 months ago
@kkilo34 You didn't address anything I said. I didn't claim that whites are discriminating against blacks. Was this response even meant for me? I simply gave a brief description of what privilege is to highlight the fact that this video doesn't truly address it. I also asked if you also believe that you have no male privilege. You have addressed a statement I didn't make and failed to answer the question that I actually did ask. A straight answer from you would expose your inaccuracies.
SuperHighlife25 2 months ago
@SuperHighlife25 "I didn't claim that whites are discriminating against blacks." Yes you did.
It's right here: "The concept of privilege concerns the opportunities and lack of opposition and negative stereotypes you encounter because of your race, gender etc."
Duh.
kkilo34 2 months ago
@SuperHighlife25 "I also asked if you also believe that you have no male privilege."
And here's what I wrote: "And there is no male privilege."
I'm not sure what part of "And there is no male privilege" you feel didn't answer the question about whether I believe I have male privilege. And you claim to be exposing my inaccuracies? Do you even actually read what you type before you post it?
kkilo34 2 months ago
lol what is this bull
GoddessOfLight08 3 months ago
@GoddessOfLight08 Clearly you've never considered the very racist undertones that inform the concept of white privilege. And clearly, if I were not making some very strong arguments, you'd be able to point out a flaw in my reasoning. Instead, all you did was call it "bull," which shows you can't actually refute what I saying.
kkilo34 3 months ago
that you do not have privilege in being white? What is the representation of races in Congress, look at what different races hold certain jobs… I am not trying to say that you have not had a struggle you have needed to overcome or somehow you must bear this responsibility but rather I am asking that you understand that you do benefit from a system that gives you a certain amount of privilege.
nbsffreak212 4 months ago
@nbsffreak212 So, if whites are successful at higher rates than blacks, it's proof that whites have some racial privilege? This is racial bigotry. It's an automatic assumption that blacks cannot in any way be responsible for their own high rates of failure. You're racially scapegoating whites and assuming that blacks are failing not because of any choices they make in life, but rather because of something those evil whites are doing to them. It's bigotry. Nothing more.
kkilo34 4 months ago
wealth and the networks that would allow you to be successful. What do we have? All previous laws excluded us from any participation that would allow us a build-up of wealth, we lack social connections because we were not allowed to participate in any institutions beyond being cheap and easy to manipulate by your people. Where does that leave us now…. When your people have had hundreds of more years in social, political and economic dominance, whereas we have had none.. Are you saying that
nbsffreak212 4 months ago
@nbsffreak212 "What do we have? " Tons of opportunity. See my video "Black People Are Not Oppressed (Education Edition)," which will show you that even when black people are placed in affluent neighborhoods with good schools, they still fail. It's not because of any inherent flaw in their genetics. That's racism. But it IS because their culture teaches them to behave in self-defeating ways. Whites are not responsible for blacks' bad choices in life and no one should feel sorry for them.
kkilo34 4 months ago
I think we can both agree that Whites at this time were able to accumulate much wealth, property and establish themselves with the proper social tools they needed for success. Then African Americans and Chicano people slowly began to receive the LEGAL rights that would create equality. Yet what you don’t take into account are the differences in our “equality”. You have had 300+ years, more if you count the time your families had to build their wealth in Europe, to create wealth
nbsffreak212 4 months ago
@nbsffreak212 There are MANY poor immigrants that come to America and move into the middle class IN A SINGLE GENERATION. Yet, blacks have had multiple generations, and they are still failing. Even in this comment, you can see the reasons why. Blacks simply dismiss any personal responsibility for their failures. Instead, they racially scapegoat whites and insist that they're always at some disadvantage. They're not. They just choose not to do the things that makes one successful.
kkilo34 4 months ago
I don't think that people such as Tim Wise and my classmate that learn about not only White Privilege but also Straight and Male privilege don't advocate a violent taking of your resources. I fully understand Tim Wise's arguments; just imagine a world where white was the only thing that was right. That was the world that existed just over a hundred years ago. Now imagine the playing field that created eg the laws and preferences that were reinforced through the time.
nbsffreak212 4 months ago
@nbsffreak212 Again, this is the victim mentality that is so much a part of black culture today. Wow, you mean sitting around insisting you're a bunch of helpless children perpetually weak in the face of other race's power and demanding everyone take care of you hasn't resulted in widespread prosperity? Who'd of thunk??? Yes, you fail in life precisely because cry all day about how everyone owes you something. Life is hard for everyone. Get over yourself. This is what equality looks like.
kkilo34 4 months ago
HOLY SHIT! I felt like you were describing what white people did to all indigenous people when you were describing the Nazi treatment of Jews.
nbsffreak212 4 months ago
@nbsffreak212 White people did that to all indigenous people? I'm white and have never done anything to indigenous people? Oooh, I get it. You judge all those with light skin by the crimes of the few. You know who else does that? White racists. They take black crime statistics and say "Look at what blacks do to us!" Pat yourself on the back. You think just like a white racist. Your mamma should be proud of what you've become.
kkilo34 4 months ago
Cont: Mugabe's wrath!! Ur video is selective and highly misleading at best.. .. How did all those white farmers come into posession of the most fertile lands to begin with? I'll tell u: Force, disguised as mission programs by the catholic church! Plus, Mugabe didn't kill or terrorize nearly as many whites as Ian Smiths government did 2 the black who were fighting for independence. Now, u've got d nerve 2 compare blacks 2 Nazis and other white supremacists?!?! Gimme a break! U must b on drugs!!
kingofpendragon 4 months ago
@kingofpendragon The white farmer in this video purchased his land through a willing-buyer/willing-seller transaction