Some people says that whatever you do is your destiny, so you can't change your destiny by doing something, becouse you already did it, even if you time travel and change it, changing you destiny was you destiny so you can't change you destiny.
The human mind DO HAVE patterns that FOLLOW natural laws. This might be tricky to be able to understand but if you would give a thought, even the rejection of not having a free will can also be destined. ALL your thoughts that will happen in your mind are inevitable. Ofcourse that doesn't mean that it can be easily predetermined. The number of different connections made by neurons in your brain is larger than there are stars in the know universe.
@Risulfur How can you truly believe that? There's no way you can be certain that ALL of our thoughts are destined. Personally I concider it to be completely impossible for *everything* to be predetermined.
@Swich94 oh rly? can you explain me how do you understand a "free will"? I understand it as an ability to choose something what I want. What we will choose is also inevitable. Everything has a reason including decision making.
@Risulfur I agree on your definition of "free will". But I think no-one is capabable of knowing wheter or not our actions are predetermined. And then I find myself much more confident in believing that we actually have "free will". Refering to the content of the video, I think there's a flow of the universe following a destined path. We however, are not affected by this. But that's just my theory. And I won't say I'm right either, 'cause how could anyone know?
This idea takes on an additional layer of depth when you look at quantum physics and the "Theory of Everything". Basically, quantum theory states the the mere observation of a system changes its state, and due to this and other theories, it is considered impossible for everything to be completely predetermined. In a general sense, some things may be inevitable (as discussed in the video), but it is simply impossible know everything down to the last detail, and humans are quite detailed.
One of the smartest, well-spoken fellows I've had the pleasure of listening to a long time. If you ever feel like being interviewed on a podcast, we'd love to have you! Foul Mouth Radio on iTunes.
i think that since ur brains are chemical reactions that happen in response to something that we see someone do (and what theyre doing is also based on a chemical rection which is in turned based on something someone else did which is also a chemical rection...etc, etc) we have no free will. but we have the perception of freewill, so if we all stop punishing people because they have no free will, this will cause ANOTHER chemical reactioin in everyone and lead to mass chaos.
@nashan13a not only a chemical reaction! Those chemical reactions are triggered by electric impulses, wich can be blocked, ignored or redirected. So the statement isnt exactly true, though not comepletly incorrect. Some sorts of behavior (triggered by your reactions) can be ignored or redirected (i.e punshing a pillow instead of a person you're mad at). The perception part I agree with :) We are bound by laws of nature, fysics and community... So free will? Not in this era
It always comes back to "morals". Everything is set in stone. We are just to undeveloped to predict every small detail. Humanity is not ready to accept it yet.
There are filozophical theries that say cause and reason may not exist. When B happens 1000 times after A happens first we start to believe that next time we see A we gonna see B too, but we never can be sure. I agree on a free will part, but disagree about destiny :) Booyaah
I dont agree that there is ANY destiny. You say the sun will burn out, but how can you be sure that there aren't aliens that will somehow fuel the sun to infinity (or make it generate its own fuel, somehow). There is nothing that is 100% sure, Dean.
free will is just a facking film i seen on tv. Dean has been doing some crazy shit for a long time. free will and control are initial responses. our response is speculative in size and nature. maybe free will is more like randomness.
human's don't have freewill. our freewill is limited by what our options are, hence what we've learnt. it's improbable for a human to know EVERYTHING and thus have every option available at his/her disposal at a given point in time.
I think this question can be made much simpler then this.
First identify what determines your actions;
these are the biological conditions you were born with, eg, how your brain works and body.
and the environment effects which affect the way you think.
Neither of those 2 is chosen by the person who is born, therefore at no point can you make a decision that is not determined by those 2 factors. Therefore free will can not exist.
You my friend, are an equivalent of a modern day philosopher. I like that and you should keep up the great work! I really enjoy what you have to say on most subjects!
Terrible argument to assume we have free will because if we don't shit might hit the fan, Free will doesn't fit within a naturalistic world view ultimately it all does boil down to atoms acting in accordance to natural law within a very complex system for example I hit dean in the head with a brick he is now a vegetable does he still have free will? There is probability in nature but if free will is probabilistic then its not free will. Also your free will seems to presuppose a Cartesian theatre
Dean: I like this assessment very much and I agree that functionally we have to assume that there is free will. We shouldn't accept a deterministic path of history to the point that our individual agency disappears. Even from an activist standpoint, in Marxism the deterministic path of history is emphasized, and yet those who genuinely want to change society will need to understand themselves as determining the future as opposed to being determined by the past. You are great, keep making vids
I think there is no free will because I could not imagine a way to explain it within natural law. It makes much more sense to me that everything is cause and effect. P.S. There is no right and wrong. We just have these feelings because, in a evolution aspect, it's advantageous to survival. But if everyone knew this, we would be in deep shit.
@FallingAlex Totally agree. But I often wonder how people would react if they understood this. Would they take it negatively, use it as an excuse to 'act irresponsibly'. Or positively, by no longer having an ego, not judging people and becoming more understanding. I've taking it positively. And now make more of an effort to help people less fortunate than I.
We have free will, but every decision we make has ripple effects; aka destiny. If I decide to eat some 2 week-old leftovers, it will be my destiny to throw up everywhere within a few minutes. All of the choices that we make accumulate into one gigantic result/journey, made up of all the small and large decisions we make (finishing your fries vs. moving to a new city). We craft our own destiny, the more we do and the more decisions we make, the more epic our destinies are. Pretty cool, right? :D
I'm amazed at all the ignorance. Any random outcome is not destinty, just because you're obligated to ultimately end up at that unknown outcome.
You can do whatever you want, when you want, where you want, with whoever you want, for whatever reason you want. Unlimited outcomes are not a "destinty". You will be forced to end up an outcome because you exist, not because a force beyond our perception obligates you to to end up at any one specific outcome.
to dream and set goals because we cannot see the fifth dimension and who knows those dreams just may be possible to you. Finally I must say life would be mighty depressing if we could see th fifth dimension, as we would know our entire life path and every stage of ourselves in it.
or win a nobel prize but this outcome might not be possible to us on our current time frame over the fifth dimension. If free will was completely possible those outcomes would infact be possible to all of us. But since we cannot see the fifth or even fourth dimension we can beleive in free will because we don't know what our set path is in the fifth dimension. In theory free will doesn't exist only partial free will. We should though continue... next post ill continue
@SmoothPinkWater your comment reminds me of possitive reinforcement. Anyways, in the fifth dimension we have a set path with a limited set of possiblities and out comes. A set path over the fouth dimension based on our own choices, chance and the influence of others. Intrinsically this suggest No free will; however we have the ability to make choices as we all know. This means that we have partial free will. For example we could choose to become the leader of a country or thecontinued next post
If you look from neutral point of view, there is clearly a destiny
If you look from your own perspective there is dеfinitely free will
Your Destiny is the matrix of your own choices, "The you" that made another matrix of choices is someone different then you who lives in another world.
Conclusion: You have fixed future based on your choices.
blah, Your statement about free will and the justice system, it just simple-minded and short sited. If by reasoning we evolve to the position where we know there is no free will, it becomes obvious that retribution has NO moral value beyond simple animal impulse. At this point of understanding we should change our system of justice to contain and treat rather than punish. Understanding can evolve without free will. What are these "dangerous consequences" you talk about?
Humans are actually very predictable. For example, a person who is "random" will do random things, and knowing that they'll do random things means they are predictable, albeit, it would have harder to predict what they'll actually do.
I think we are a very small part in the grand scheme know as life, suns blow apart stars die thats life shit happens but i think we all need to realise that we can have a free will so aslong as we choose to follow it. Sure some people may dream of being a Pilot or Doctor but we as humans have changed to the point where anything is possible some people will think we have only one thing to achieve in this world and thats death but hey you think that. Human Pyshcology its a fucked thing but hey.
The only destiny there is, is death. Happens to all therefore it must be our destiny to cease to exist. Everything in between is simply the road we take to get there :)
Every one of your 2-3 minutes video gets me thinking more than 2 years of philosophy classes did.I mean,it's fun to think about your view on the subject,check if it matches mine,discover the differences,acknowledge that some parts of what you said make more sense than what i previoulsy thought and then create a new,upgraded view on that subject,combining the better aspects of both views.But seriously,so much thinking and thinking evolutions is making my brain hurt. You're one smart dude.
Interesting analogy with the train - how can we do whatever we like on it though? Can we surpass the laws of physics? Can we surpass those of the government? Will we sidestep our own morals to do things? Or are we still bound to do things that we have no choice over on the train?
Also, you say that no free will means no justice - just because someone cannot be BLAMED for something does not mean they aren't responsible. While I couldn't choose to do something, it doesn't make me innocent as such.
It's interesting to consider heisenburg's uncertainty principle which says that there is no possible way to know both the location and momentum of subatomic particles at the same time - it is random and therefore not determined. As you go to bigger items such as atoms etc everything appears to be determined, but on such a tiny level free will prevails. I think we live in a mostly determined life but we should live as if we have free will.
I agree with what you said. If we believe in free will, we can say that we choose the things we do. If we believe in destiny we can say that everything happens because it was meant to. I think that in certain events the choice you make is set by earlier experiences. But how much of that is destiny or free will then?
And in the end, does it even matter? Believe whatever you feel best with and live with that. Live your life regardless of paradoxes like these.
There is no such thing as free will. Everything that happened and will happen is determined. The big bang happened in 1 way not 1000 ways and so all the atoms and energy got dispersed in that way the possible outcome can be that way and that way only. Nature doesn't work with chance. Chance is something that we made up cause we can't yet expain something or can't figure out it's possible outcome.
people have free will and destiny is only the specific path we chose,we are all responsible for things we do and not some higher cause...short ,simple ,true
Everything is complex. We are too simple to process and really understand everything around us. Maybe with time, but not now. It's good to see a couple of smart things on the internet instead of the usual gossip/bad humor/just plain idiotic stuff...
I'll go with the illusion because the way people react is directly linked to every experience they have had which makes the outcome logical. We just can't see why because we can't see everything...
Let me be sincere, I watched a lot of your videos espacially 'gangsta' videos
I need your birthdate to check your horoscope, I'm curious man.
I can give you extensive info about what modern astrology is telling about you, and you can decide if this has something to do with reality or is complete false.
You can have some fun, and I can satisfy my curiosness if you send me your birthdate, better with exact hour, but it can be only year month and day.
Dean, I was wondering, how can we prevent bad memories from returning to our conscious? How does it work anyway? And why can't we forget what we want to forget?
We're destined to be ignorant. Coming to peace with this and dealing with this ignorance accordingly may be our purpose in life. What a wonderful paradoxic thought!
Mankind invented trains and mankind has put drivers in them, whether that is God or destiny matters not. The moral and ethic thing to do is to be responsible and just and even Socrates admittted understanding neither. Maybe it's simply to complicated for us, thus providing us with a destiny heavily influenced by ignorance.
Did you read a book of Bas Haring (de ijzeren wil) cause I just read it and it actually is about what you are saying in this video. About robots being living creatures.
hey Dean, I'm amazed at how intellectual you actually are as compared to your alter ego. lol. anyway, I'm curious of who your sources were in coming up with your insight of this matter. This kind of reasoning reminds me of Anselm of Canterbury's ontological argument in proving the existence of God.
@DeanLeysen in order for me to prove i have free will i would like a computer of high magnitude intelligence to predict everything i will do in advance prior to the knowledge and without and for it to come to a final conclusion if i am unable to change my path in anyway then i don't have free will but if i am than i have enough, this can go either way. a computer that great would leave no room for mystery and it would be nearly impossible to build. But i feel we have free will very little of it
@DeanLeysen wrong dean. hard determinism can account for reasons to punish and reward people. rehabilitation, removal for the protection of society, creating incentives for good behaviour etc. good video though.
Free will vs environment Determinism. Both are RIGHT, to an extent despite people trying to say there is ONE side versus another. We all of free will, but our choices are limited with the theoretical "box" of environmental determinism.
why would being able to predict your behaviour mean you aren't acting of your own 'free will'? so much philosophy is just weighing things against each other as if they're opposing concepts when they're not.
@dean/"OG" great video, these are some interesting thoughts that we as a forum should never stop exploring and building up on. I have my very own theories on these matters and some of them are similar to yours.
sry for getting slightly off topic on the wall with all the religious pingpong below ;)
It often seems to me like there is a struggle in my brain between the rational part of it and the... the other one...for example I know it is a stupid idea to fall in love with a certain girl however i cant rly prevent it with the rational part of my brain no matter how hard i try...my question would be - do u think it is possible to train ur brain in a way that would allow u to be perfectly reasonable at most of the times regardless of what instructions the hormones and stuff give you?
"Do we have free will?" I don't think it's a yes/no question. most likely we partially have free will and the amount can differ from one person to another. also you would have to define the word free (I'm not gonna get into that here ;)
dean , awesome video , but : i feel that destiny is only blocked to stuff like where we are born , our parents etc ; but free will is something we 100 % have and is what makes us as human being special and unique
@PwnedByTheBANZAAAI this is nonsense.. There is no diffrence between us and dogs in matter of free will. Besides, just as dean said, it is all matter of definition. If we, for example, go a few minutes back in time - EVERYTHING will be exactly the same, therefore our decision could possibly be caculated. Does this mean no free will? DEFINITION
@skihas1 "assuming" is your key word here. he doesn't have to make assumptions cause he's working with logic which is the way to find the truth. you need to make assumptions cause the truth that there probably isn't a god or an afterlife would be unbearable for you. this i can understand cause it is a natural feeling- and you have my sympathy. maybe you should talk to someone
I believe in God because logic itself can only be possible through him. God and logic go hand in hand, not one apart from the other. Logic can be whatever you want it to be apart from him.
PS love the channel, I'm a huge furious fan, more pickup videos please :) ... tell your mum.
@skihas1 logic can not be "whatever you want it to be". because logic results through scientific experimentation (=near proof). but ironically with the arguments you are using by saying logic is possible through god without defining why it is so you make logic whatever YOU want it to be. of course you would never be able to explain why god = logic because that might end badly. therefore you content yourself with just throwing absolute statements at people like logic and god go hand in hand.
The reason I say it can be "whatever you want" it to be is because you cannot trust your own thoughts according to uniformitarianism. Your "reality" is a very small view, with no way of telling whether or not your brain's chemical processes are backwards or not.
My problem with evolution is the scientific experimentation you describe, and I suggest going to creationdotcom for more info on WHY.
In my worldview, my thoughts are due to a designer with a reason for my life. You have no reason, except for what you yourself determine it to be, and I feel for you. I don't believe this because it makes me feel good, but because it makes MORE logical sense than uniformitarianism.
@skihas1 it's more logical? may i refer to my last comment where i was trying to explain to you what logic is. see now you're just in denial. statistical truth: there is most likely no purpose for life on earth (darwinism taken a bit further). the denial comes from the fact that you and many others just can't accept that we people mean absolutely nothing. you're version of everything sounds nice and i hope for you that you are right. but it's a billion billion billion to one chance. sorry
by the way everything aside may i remind you that i do not hate you or your views and that maybe it is better to live a religious lie (cause it makes you happier or a better person). i for one can be a good person without the need of a false belief system over my head. but i just felt like giving out some free truth today. like candy ;)
I know you don't hate me, I don't hate you either, in fact I wish you could see how much I care for you. I genuinely want to see you in heaven with me, even if you don't believe there is such a place. Even Dean has said before: "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".
I would argue there is ABUNDANT evidence for God, it's up to the individual (and ultimately GOD) to seek it and accept it, no matter how repulsive it is to the atheist's ear.
@skihas1 I'm not an atheist. i just really like to think. i see no reason why we should argue any more. you have your views, and i have mine. and if living a good and loving life is what both ways lead to than there is no reason to condemn either of them. i question myself and my theories every day and i also change my mind- just remember: keeping an open mind never hurt anyone
OK, I respect your views, I just wanted to say one more thing... it's not living a good and loving life that gets you into heaven, its believing in Jesus Christ, and accepting him as the Savior from your sins. Nobody can earn their way into heaven, it is a gift bought and paid for by Jesus blood. God is perfection, we are imperfect, as is shown by our actions. Jesus lived a perfect life and died in our place. All we have to do is accept this gift of Salvation.
Personally I don't think that we do have free will, we only have the illusion of free will. In that all of your atoms (and sub-atomic particles) act and react ONLY through NATURAL LAWS OF PHYSICS. THERE IS NO OUTSIDE FORCE ACTING ON THEM...and if there is no outside force acting on them (ie your will) then all of the actions of your atoms must occur because they are following a set of physical laws. It's a nice little loop of logic that I particularly enjoy. Thanks for your time!
what i love about your videos is that im always surprised about how you answer the question. its very refreshing after being able to predict ppl's answers to so many things for most of my high school years
i believe in destiny very strongly. my wife use to live in a different state with her parents. something happened they split up, causing her mom to want to move somewhere else, and they moved to my town, where i met her. i feel those events were preset happened so we could meet.
Some people says that whatever you do is your destiny, so you can't change your destiny by doing something, becouse you already did it, even if you time travel and change it, changing you destiny was you destiny so you can't change you destiny.
MrVestido 1 week ago
The human mind DO HAVE patterns that FOLLOW natural laws. This might be tricky to be able to understand but if you would give a thought, even the rejection of not having a free will can also be destined. ALL your thoughts that will happen in your mind are inevitable. Ofcourse that doesn't mean that it can be easily predetermined. The number of different connections made by neurons in your brain is larger than there are stars in the know universe.
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@Risulfur How can you truly believe that? There's no way you can be certain that ALL of our thoughts are destined. Personally I concider it to be completely impossible for *everything* to be predetermined.
Swich94 3 days ago
@Swich94 oh rly? can you explain me how do you understand a "free will"? I understand it as an ability to choose something what I want. What we will choose is also inevitable. Everything has a reason including decision making.
Risulfur 2 days ago
@Risulfur I agree on your definition of "free will". But I think no-one is capabable of knowing wheter or not our actions are predetermined. And then I find myself much more confident in believing that we actually have "free will". Refering to the content of the video, I think there's a flow of the universe following a destined path. We however, are not affected by this. But that's just my theory. And I won't say I'm right either, 'cause how could anyone know?
Swich94 2 days ago
Unpredictability != free will.
whatever4evar 3 weeks ago
@whatever4evar no, unpredictability = random will. that's not the same as free will in the usual sense, but at least it's more comforting...
sinachiniforoosh 2 weeks ago
This idea takes on an additional layer of depth when you look at quantum physics and the "Theory of Everything". Basically, quantum theory states the the mere observation of a system changes its state, and due to this and other theories, it is considered impossible for everything to be completely predetermined. In a general sense, some things may be inevitable (as discussed in the video), but it is simply impossible know everything down to the last detail, and humans are quite detailed.
7Slayde 1 month ago
One of the smartest, well-spoken fellows I've had the pleasure of listening to a long time. If you ever feel like being interviewed on a podcast, we'd love to have you! Foul Mouth Radio on iTunes.
FMSCannon 1 month ago
Dean Leysen, I've recently been watching you videos. I think they are all really cool. But I think my brain just exploded...thanks. -Scott :)
MrSKEEN22 1 month ago
hey dean, have you heard of that new laser time cloaking thing that was developed at Cornell university?
twanmon13 1 month ago
out of curiosity: do you make any money from youtube? and what's your job?
spader1873 1 month ago
Dean, I've been thinking of that for a while and I came to those exact same conclusions about a month ago. Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone.
NinjaKlein 1 month ago
i think that since ur brains are chemical reactions that happen in response to something that we see someone do (and what theyre doing is also based on a chemical rection which is in turned based on something someone else did which is also a chemical rection...etc, etc) we have no free will. but we have the perception of freewill, so if we all stop punishing people because they have no free will, this will cause ANOTHER chemical reactioin in everyone and lead to mass chaos.
nashan13a 1 month ago
@nashan13a not only a chemical reaction! Those chemical reactions are triggered by electric impulses, wich can be blocked, ignored or redirected. So the statement isnt exactly true, though not comepletly incorrect. Some sorts of behavior (triggered by your reactions) can be ignored or redirected (i.e punshing a pillow instead of a person you're mad at). The perception part I agree with :) We are bound by laws of nature, fysics and community... So free will? Not in this era
alturius4 1 month ago
what about fate?
TheKerrymahan 1 month ago
It always comes back to "morals". Everything is set in stone. We are just to undeveloped to predict every small detail. Humanity is not ready to accept it yet.
ANimouz 1 month ago
There are filozophical theries that say cause and reason may not exist. When B happens 1000 times after A happens first we start to believe that next time we see A we gonna see B too, but we never can be sure. I agree on a free will part, but disagree about destiny :) Booyaah
kajetan88 1 month ago
I dont agree that there is ANY destiny. You say the sun will burn out, but how can you be sure that there aren't aliens that will somehow fuel the sun to infinity (or make it generate its own fuel, somehow). There is nothing that is 100% sure, Dean.
stickmanymickmany 1 month ago
Great video, I've never thought about destiny and free will like that.
tomato098 1 month ago
free will is just a facking film i seen on tv. Dean has been doing some crazy shit for a long time. free will and control are initial responses. our response is speculative in size and nature. maybe free will is more like randomness.
rico46davis 1 month ago
f u running
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free will is destiny & destiny is free will, don't you think so?
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qtxyz 1 month ago
I got the 1,000th like :) Great video
kevinmac631 1 month ago
What do you think of sopa?
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Anonymous0044 1 month ago
Hey Dean can you make a video with Athene again?
Ma4onka 1 month ago
If our destiny has already been written, does that mean there is no such thing as luck because our life will just be based on our karma
skullkey123 1 month ago
I has all de free wills
NinjaJC1988 1 month ago
Yay LIVE STREAM!!!
minhmeo1209 1 month ago
@DeanLeysen You're so Fucking Brainy dude!! :D You're just so awesome! Keep reading!
EDGEroxx1 1 month ago
There is no destiny have u ever heard of uncertainty principle? dam u guys need to do some research
tecinfolucas 1 month ago
@tecinfolucas you can't belive anything that blindly...
slayerdark0 1 month ago
human's don't have freewill. our freewill is limited by what our options are, hence what we've learnt. it's improbable for a human to know EVERYTHING and thus have every option available at his/her disposal at a given point in time.
vidic245 1 month ago
I think this question can be made much simpler then this.
First identify what determines your actions;
these are the biological conditions you were born with, eg, how your brain works and body.
and the environment effects which affect the way you think.
Neither of those 2 is chosen by the person who is born, therefore at no point can you make a decision that is not determined by those 2 factors. Therefore free will can not exist.
PooeyBum11 1 month ago
Awesome vid.
th2 1 month ago
They shut down MegaUpload (Megavideo) people, it has started!! 2012 is the death of the internet! The mayans were partially correct.
lyles32386 1 month ago
I would like to see one of your videos without the jump cuts.
soupman2000 1 month ago
You my friend, are an equivalent of a modern day philosopher. I like that and you should keep up the great work! I really enjoy what you have to say on most subjects!
TwilightStormGaming 1 month ago
This is now my new favorite video of yours.
Prsthx 1 month ago
Terrible argument to assume we have free will because if we don't shit might hit the fan, Free will doesn't fit within a naturalistic world view ultimately it all does boil down to atoms acting in accordance to natural law within a very complex system for example I hit dean in the head with a brick he is now a vegetable does he still have free will? There is probability in nature but if free will is probabilistic then its not free will. Also your free will seems to presuppose a Cartesian theatre
ronocko 1 month ago
I refuse to believe in fate.
shadeslate 1 month ago
Dean: I like this assessment very much and I agree that functionally we have to assume that there is free will. We shouldn't accept a deterministic path of history to the point that our individual agency disappears. Even from an activist standpoint, in Marxism the deterministic path of history is emphasized, and yet those who genuinely want to change society will need to understand themselves as determining the future as opposed to being determined by the past. You are great, keep making vids
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@Jack102589 thanks! :)
DeanLeysen 1 month ago 3
@DeanLeysen What u think about SOPA & PIPA ?
MrTerZZo 1 month ago
You are Fucking Smart...
EDGEroxx1 1 month ago
my god you're brilliant
DistendedSnail 1 month ago 13
I think there is no free will because I could not imagine a way to explain it within natural law. It makes much more sense to me that everything is cause and effect. P.S. There is no right and wrong. We just have these feelings because, in a evolution aspect, it's advantageous to survival. But if everyone knew this, we would be in deep shit.
FallingAlex 1 month ago
@FallingAlex Totally agree. But I often wonder how people would react if they understood this. Would they take it negatively, use it as an excuse to 'act irresponsibly'. Or positively, by no longer having an ego, not judging people and becoming more understanding. I've taking it positively. And now make more of an effort to help people less fortunate than I.
antonspringford 1 month ago
Life is just a ride
antonspringford 1 month ago
@antonspringford Bill Hicks FTW
FallingAlex 1 month ago
click like, it is your destiny
riosbogarde 1 month ago
are u a teacher
endwarfan 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Dude i love the way you think!
Susfire 2 months ago
We have free will, but every decision we make has ripple effects; aka destiny. If I decide to eat some 2 week-old leftovers, it will be my destiny to throw up everywhere within a few minutes. All of the choices that we make accumulate into one gigantic result/journey, made up of all the small and large decisions we make (finishing your fries vs. moving to a new city). We craft our own destiny, the more we do and the more decisions we make, the more epic our destinies are. Pretty cool, right? :D
Illjustwait 2 months ago
at 0:33 were you holding a blue plectrum in your right hand?
joshhailesdesign 2 months ago in playlist More videos from DeanLeysen
Actually all the stars, we see in sky, is long ago dead, Dean...
ExEdzy 3 months ago
Dean, you are really handsome.
ekdrmssama 4 months ago in playlist More videos from DeanLeysen
I'm amazed at all the ignorance. Any random outcome is not destinty, just because you're obligated to ultimately end up at that unknown outcome.
You can do whatever you want, when you want, where you want, with whoever you want, for whatever reason you want. Unlimited outcomes are not a "destinty". You will be forced to end up an outcome because you exist, not because a force beyond our perception obligates you to to end up at any one specific outcome.
corpralj3 4 months ago
I love your way of thinking... hehe passengers on a train, didn't thought of that one
sahil2304 5 months ago in playlist Videos from DeanLeysen
to dream and set goals because we cannot see the fifth dimension and who knows those dreams just may be possible to you. Finally I must say life would be mighty depressing if we could see th fifth dimension, as we would know our entire life path and every stage of ourselves in it.
cooltubes547 5 months ago
or win a nobel prize but this outcome might not be possible to us on our current time frame over the fifth dimension. If free will was completely possible those outcomes would infact be possible to all of us. But since we cannot see the fifth or even fourth dimension we can beleive in free will because we don't know what our set path is in the fifth dimension. In theory free will doesn't exist only partial free will. We should though continue... next post ill continue
cooltubes547 5 months ago
@SmoothPinkWater your comment reminds me of possitive reinforcement. Anyways, in the fifth dimension we have a set path with a limited set of possiblities and out comes. A set path over the fouth dimension based on our own choices, chance and the influence of others. Intrinsically this suggest No free will; however we have the ability to make choices as we all know. This means that we have partial free will. For example we could choose to become the leader of a country or thecontinued next post
cooltubes547 5 months ago
If you look from neutral point of view, there is clearly a destiny
If you look from your own perspective there is dеfinitely free will
Your Destiny is the matrix of your own choices, "The you" that made another matrix of choices is someone different then you who lives in another world.
Conclusion: You have fixed future based on your choices.
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Vanhyo 5 months ago
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Here is a thing for you to explain, THE LAW OF ATTRACTION, Not many people know about it, I am sure you do tho.
infanint 5 months ago
blah, Your statement about free will and the justice system, it just simple-minded and short sited. If by reasoning we evolve to the position where we know there is no free will, it becomes obvious that retribution has NO moral value beyond simple animal impulse. At this point of understanding we should change our system of justice to contain and treat rather than punish. Understanding can evolve without free will. What are these "dangerous consequences" you talk about?
SmoothPinkWater 5 months ago
I think we have free will, I feel we have free will, Not a lot but enough. even if it,s just 0.000000000000001% good enough for me
Tethloach1 5 months ago
Humans are actually very predictable. For example, a person who is "random" will do random things, and knowing that they'll do random things means they are predictable, albeit, it would have harder to predict what they'll actually do.
Fredhurp 5 months ago
500 Character's to right in a little box is also fucked but, Shit happens......
itachispal 5 months ago
I think we are a very small part in the grand scheme know as life, suns blow apart stars die thats life shit happens but i think we all need to realise that we can have a free will so aslong as we choose to follow it. Sure some people may dream of being a Pilot or Doctor but we as humans have changed to the point where anything is possible some people will think we have only one thing to achieve in this world and thats death but hey you think that. Human Pyshcology its a fucked thing but hey.
itachispal 5 months ago
It depends what you believe in, lets say, science philosophy or some religions. But in the its still a choice, which proves free will right there
MrAnimeking9000 5 months ago
We can't possibly have free will, since every atom is bound to Actions-->reaction.
So since every atom is in motion along a certain path, since the start, in the end, everything is set in the stars ...
devilzown11 5 months ago
The only destiny there is, is death. Happens to all therefore it must be our destiny to cease to exist. Everything in between is simply the road we take to get there :)
w0ll3sup3r 5 months ago
destiny no random yes free will yes .. My free will is to stop your destiny DERP
mannyste 5 months ago
Every one of your 2-3 minutes video gets me thinking more than 2 years of philosophy classes did.I mean,it's fun to think about your view on the subject,check if it matches mine,discover the differences,acknowledge that some parts of what you said make more sense than what i previoulsy thought and then create a new,upgraded view on that subject,combining the better aspects of both views.But seriously,so much thinking and thinking evolutions is making my brain hurt. You're one smart dude.
JSLSampaio 5 months ago
You cannot claim that someone or something will die. Because it isn't certain
georgegoestotown 5 months ago
Interesting analogy with the train - how can we do whatever we like on it though? Can we surpass the laws of physics? Can we surpass those of the government? Will we sidestep our own morals to do things? Or are we still bound to do things that we have no choice over on the train?
Also, you say that no free will means no justice - just because someone cannot be BLAMED for something does not mean they aren't responsible. While I couldn't choose to do something, it doesn't make me innocent as such.
SSofficeface 5 months ago
It's interesting to consider heisenburg's uncertainty principle which says that there is no possible way to know both the location and momentum of subatomic particles at the same time - it is random and therefore not determined. As you go to bigger items such as atoms etc everything appears to be determined, but on such a tiny level free will prevails. I think we live in a mostly determined life but we should live as if we have free will.
madguy3000 5 months ago
Can you explain two things, personality type (mbti) and deja vu
MrNirvanerd 5 months ago
I agree with what you said. If we believe in free will, we can say that we choose the things we do. If we believe in destiny we can say that everything happens because it was meant to. I think that in certain events the choice you make is set by earlier experiences. But how much of that is destiny or free will then?
And in the end, does it even matter? Believe whatever you feel best with and live with that. Live your life regardless of paradoxes like these.
Zkarts 6 months ago
this video made me think of the movie waking life lol.
rhotoscope your vids! :P
IceOnMyTaurus 6 months ago
@IceOnMyTaurus That is such a brilliant movie
svantezor 6 months ago
source code reference at 0:57?
relkins711 6 months ago
wow nailed that spot on. i agreed with literally everything you just said. bravo
DanielGannage 6 months ago
You spoke my mind, but even better than I could have.
I think I will enjoy more of your videos :)
friiik 6 months ago 27
@friiik& others you all think alike where is your free will?
qtxyz 2 months ago
There is no such thing as free will. Everything that happened and will happen is determined. The big bang happened in 1 way not 1000 ways and so all the atoms and energy got dispersed in that way the possible outcome can be that way and that way only. Nature doesn't work with chance. Chance is something that we made up cause we can't yet expain something or can't figure out it's possible outcome.
ANimouz 6 months ago
people have free will and destiny is only the specific path we chose,we are all responsible for things we do and not some higher cause...short ,simple ,true
IronMaidenCroatia 6 months ago
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@DeanLeysen destiny (fatalism) and determinism are very different btw
stewylolol 6 months ago
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stewylolol 6 months ago
Everything is complex. We are too simple to process and really understand everything around us. Maybe with time, but not now. It's good to see a couple of smart things on the internet instead of the usual gossip/bad humor/just plain idiotic stuff...
jazo237 6 months ago
Mindfuck
75353866 6 months ago
What if it's your destiny to have free will? o.O
anklebreakers101 6 months ago
id like for u to expand on the moral consequences of having free will and assuming u dont! what u said that the end! :)
janiecethebeast 6 months ago
Just a quick note:
I'll go with the illusion because the way people react is directly linked to every experience they have had which makes the outcome logical. We just can't see why because we can't see everything...
TorinoAndGriffith 6 months ago
@DeanLeysen
Let me be sincere, I watched a lot of your videos espacially 'gangsta' videos
I need your birthdate to check your horoscope, I'm curious man.
I can give you extensive info about what modern astrology is telling about you, and you can decide if this has something to do with reality or is complete false.
You can have some fun, and I can satisfy my curiosness if you send me your birthdate, better with exact hour, but it can be only year month and day.
Thank for attention.:)
legendarnyziomal 6 months ago
CHAOS THEORY!!!
SeargentSlay 6 months ago
Dean, I was wondering, how can we prevent bad memories from returning to our conscious? How does it work anyway? And why can't we forget what we want to forget?
Also, loved the live stream!
Dininiful 6 months ago
@Dininiful Scientology. Lawlz.
Playgat 6 months ago
We're destined to be ignorant. Coming to peace with this and dealing with this ignorance accordingly may be our purpose in life. What a wonderful paradoxic thought!
Zalzyn 6 months ago
Mankind invented trains and mankind has put drivers in them, whether that is God or destiny matters not. The moral and ethic thing to do is to be responsible and just and even Socrates admittted understanding neither. Maybe it's simply to complicated for us, thus providing us with a destiny heavily influenced by ignorance.
Zalzyn 6 months ago
Great example with the train, the free will combined with justice is a paradox in a certain way.
xTransmission 6 months ago
What you said about the train is wrong. A man in a train can alter its way needing only the skills to drive a train and maybe a gun and a mask :D
ReturnToTheCaves 6 months ago
I don't think I've ever seen you this enthusiastic. You seem really exited, in a different way than usual.
MeMimoTV 6 months ago
Did you read a book of Bas Haring (de ijzeren wil) cause I just read it and it actually is about what you are saying in this video. About robots being living creatures.
Robbim1 6 months ago
hey Dean, I'm amazed at how intellectual you actually are as compared to your alter ego. lol. anyway, I'm curious of who your sources were in coming up with your insight of this matter. This kind of reasoning reminds me of Anselm of Canterbury's ontological argument in proving the existence of God.
ajct35 6 months ago
That person on a train analogy was brilliant.
InvertedDoubleAces 6 months ago
did you just read the article I sent you? :P
MattaiosB 6 months ago
@MattaiosB nope, must've missed that, send again!
DeanLeysen 6 months ago 13
@DeanLeysen Sent it again now.
MattaiosB 6 months ago
@DeanLeysen in order for me to prove i have free will i would like a computer of high magnitude intelligence to predict everything i will do in advance prior to the knowledge and without and for it to come to a final conclusion if i am unable to change my path in anyway then i don't have free will but if i am than i have enough, this can go either way. a computer that great would leave no room for mystery and it would be nearly impossible to build. But i feel we have free will very little of it
Tethloach1 5 months ago
@DeanLeysen wrong dean. hard determinism can account for reasons to punish and reward people. rehabilitation, removal for the protection of society, creating incentives for good behaviour etc. good video though.
loz1023 1 month ago
@MattaiosB hey i know this is a little late, but can you send me the article please! im very curious :D
DanielGannage 6 months ago
DUDE you just helped me write my advanced english essay. thanx
toilet822 6 months ago
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there is no free will, you WILL click the subscribe button :)
brentenec 6 months ago
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what does god belive in ?
MrBrebuci 6 months ago
Free will vs environment Determinism. Both are RIGHT, to an extent despite people trying to say there is ONE side versus another. We all of free will, but our choices are limited with the theoretical "box" of environmental determinism.
Jayremy89 6 months ago
@DeanLeysen what is that blue thing you have between your thumb and indexfinger?
MrSmoothpie 6 months ago
I'm confused.
00Peacemaker 6 months ago
Would a liberal Authoritarian state be better then the chaos of democracy?
MatthewJensRobinson 6 months ago
You're awesome .beautifully worded
johnsintal 6 months ago
why would being able to predict your behaviour mean you aren't acting of your own 'free will'? so much philosophy is just weighing things against each other as if they're opposing concepts when they're not.
pancakerepairman 6 months ago
@dean/"OG" great video, these are some interesting thoughts that we as a forum should never stop exploring and building up on. I have my very own theories on these matters and some of them are similar to yours.
sry for getting slightly off topic on the wall with all the religious pingpong below ;)
peace.
punkvictim 6 months ago
It often seems to me like there is a struggle in my brain between the rational part of it and the... the other one...for example I know it is a stupid idea to fall in love with a certain girl however i cant rly prevent it with the rational part of my brain no matter how hard i try...my question would be - do u think it is possible to train ur brain in a way that would allow u to be perfectly reasonable at most of the times regardless of what instructions the hormones and stuff give you?
bagir22 6 months ago
Do you know Furious?
Mattt8D 6 months ago
your accent is...odd
marilynknotborgir 6 months ago
"Do we have free will?" I don't think it's a yes/no question. most likely we partially have free will and the amount can differ from one person to another. also you would have to define the word free (I'm not gonna get into that here ;)
punkvictim 6 months ago
dean , awesome video , but : i feel that destiny is only blocked to stuff like where we are born , our parents etc ; but free will is something we 100 % have and is what makes us as human being special and unique
PwnedByTheBANZAAAI 6 months ago
@PwnedByTheBANZAAAI this is nonsense.. There is no diffrence between us and dogs in matter of free will. Besides, just as dean said, it is all matter of definition. If we, for example, go a few minutes back in time - EVERYTHING will be exactly the same, therefore our decision could possibly be caculated. Does this mean no free will? DEFINITION
RoiShilo 6 months ago
@RoiShilo don't get mad bro it's just an opinion
PwnedByTheBANZAAAI 6 months ago
Woon je in Antwerpen, Dean?
trybenga 6 months ago
you are so pretty
IDAREYOUTOPRESSTHIS 6 months ago
This all makes sense, assuming there is no God, and since there IS a God, this video makes no sense.
go to creation dot com for details :)
skihas1 6 months ago
@skihas1 there isn't conclusive evidence supporting the existence of a god so we can't assume automatically that god exists.
Sromio 6 months ago
@Sromio
I agree, however if you seek God, you will find him. May I ask what evidence would convince you that God exists?
skihas1 6 months ago
@skihas1 honestly, I'm really not sure. I accept the fact that a god may actually exist though, but I don't like to assume things.
Sromio 6 months ago
@skihas1 "assuming" is your key word here. he doesn't have to make assumptions cause he's working with logic which is the way to find the truth. you need to make assumptions cause the truth that there probably isn't a god or an afterlife would be unbearable for you. this i can understand cause it is a natural feeling- and you have my sympathy. maybe you should talk to someone
punkvictim 6 months ago
@punkvictim your cool? get laid
TheKoolvid 6 months ago
@TheKoolvid you must've clicked the wrong comment cause that answer doesn't have anything to do with what i said (?)
punkvictim 6 months ago
@punkvictim
I believe in God because logic itself can only be possible through him. God and logic go hand in hand, not one apart from the other. Logic can be whatever you want it to be apart from him.
PS love the channel, I'm a huge furious fan, more pickup videos please :) ... tell your mum.
skihas1 6 months ago
@skihas1 logic can not be "whatever you want it to be". because logic results through scientific experimentation (=near proof). but ironically with the arguments you are using by saying logic is possible through god without defining why it is so you make logic whatever YOU want it to be. of course you would never be able to explain why god = logic because that might end badly. therefore you content yourself with just throwing absolute statements at people like logic and god go hand in hand.
punkvictim 6 months ago
@punkvictim
The reason I say it can be "whatever you want" it to be is because you cannot trust your own thoughts according to uniformitarianism. Your "reality" is a very small view, with no way of telling whether or not your brain's chemical processes are backwards or not.
My problem with evolution is the scientific experimentation you describe, and I suggest going to creationdotcom for more info on WHY.
skihas1 6 months ago
@punkvictim
In my worldview, my thoughts are due to a designer with a reason for my life. You have no reason, except for what you yourself determine it to be, and I feel for you. I don't believe this because it makes me feel good, but because it makes MORE logical sense than uniformitarianism.
skihas1 6 months ago
@skihas1 it's more logical? may i refer to my last comment where i was trying to explain to you what logic is. see now you're just in denial. statistical truth: there is most likely no purpose for life on earth (darwinism taken a bit further). the denial comes from the fact that you and many others just can't accept that we people mean absolutely nothing. you're version of everything sounds nice and i hope for you that you are right. but it's a billion billion billion to one chance. sorry
punkvictim 6 months ago
by the way everything aside may i remind you that i do not hate you or your views and that maybe it is better to live a religious lie (cause it makes you happier or a better person). i for one can be a good person without the need of a false belief system over my head. but i just felt like giving out some free truth today. like candy ;)
punkvictim 6 months ago
@punkvictim
I know you don't hate me, I don't hate you either, in fact I wish you could see how much I care for you. I genuinely want to see you in heaven with me, even if you don't believe there is such a place. Even Dean has said before: "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".
I would argue there is ABUNDANT evidence for God, it's up to the individual (and ultimately GOD) to seek it and accept it, no matter how repulsive it is to the atheist's ear.
Please browse creationdotcom:)
skihas1 6 months ago
@skihas1 I'm not an atheist. i just really like to think. i see no reason why we should argue any more. you have your views, and i have mine. and if living a good and loving life is what both ways lead to than there is no reason to condemn either of them. i question myself and my theories every day and i also change my mind- just remember: keeping an open mind never hurt anyone
punkvictim 6 months ago
@punkvictim
OK, I respect your views, I just wanted to say one more thing... it's not living a good and loving life that gets you into heaven, its believing in Jesus Christ, and accepting him as the Savior from your sins. Nobody can earn their way into heaven, it is a gift bought and paid for by Jesus blood. God is perfection, we are imperfect, as is shown by our actions. Jesus lived a perfect life and died in our place. All we have to do is accept this gift of Salvation.
skihas1 6 months ago
@punkvictim
If this is the last thing I say to you, I can live with myself. God bless.
skihas1 6 months ago
What's in your hand? A coin?
x3ICEx 6 months ago
if there's destiny
there's no free will
because if there such thing as destiny
ex. if i was destined to be rich(and i knew it)
then I will stop workikng for anything because I know im gonna be rich
chickenmanokout 6 months ago
stars burning and laws of nature are beyond our control... for now. or so I like to think :]
Gothos 6 months ago
Schizophrenia....( just watched the OG Furios review and now the univers thing that i could not understand and that was my conclusion )
Hardway130 6 months ago
Omg it's OG furious but like smart and stuff
MegaSully100 6 months ago
your explanation is always so amazing. I love the watch the videos!
Frag1ty 6 months ago
Are there real-life zombies?
TheAlecMcleod 6 months ago
yes please do talk about black magic!!! and 1 question, what do u do for a living that makes u so knowledgable about the human brain?
allizbest 6 months ago
can u talk about black magic in ur next video
therealHaroldnKumar 6 months ago
Furious is DEEEP !
nathaanfernandes 6 months ago
i wouldn't call our sun eventually blowing up 'destiny'. simply because the word itself has some sort of supernatural meaning, imo
trig1211 6 months ago
Dean can i have your opinion and try to explain to me what was before the expansion of the universe or 'big bang' ?
BigBoss19919 6 months ago
Personally I don't think that we do have free will, we only have the illusion of free will. In that all of your atoms (and sub-atomic particles) act and react ONLY through NATURAL LAWS OF PHYSICS. THERE IS NO OUTSIDE FORCE ACTING ON THEM...and if there is no outside force acting on them (ie your will) then all of the actions of your atoms must occur because they are following a set of physical laws. It's a nice little loop of logic that I particularly enjoy. Thanks for your time!
ChaosmanOne 6 months ago
@ChaosmanOne Is the destiny you're talking about supposed replace the Religious Destiny with a Scientific one?
O.o you're playing with the definitions...
TitanNV28Coral 6 months ago
what i love about your videos is that im always surprised about how you answer the question. its very refreshing after being able to predict ppl's answers to so many things for most of my high school years
seaglass19 6 months ago
i believe in destiny very strongly. my wife use to live in a different state with her parents. something happened they split up, causing her mom to want to move somewhere else, and they moved to my town, where i met her. i feel those events were preset happened so we could meet.
Brickzter25 6 months ago
i really shouldnt of understood what you were talking about but i did and the examples you used really got me thinking.
sobscibed thanks :)
jackod2006 6 months ago
i wanted to ask you something but i forgot!
signsofevil 6 months ago