This phone "eyewitness", a Mr. Gurmah (sp?), sounds like Lloyde England, driver of the famous "magic taxi" shown on the bridge in front of the Pentagon, purportedly damaged by a falling light pole "struck by the plane".
Lloyde was interviewed in depth. Short version: /watch?v=3GHM5f9lVho
Despite the photos, he repeatedly denied he and his cab were on the bridge. I used to think, "Er...duh!"
Now I understand TV Fakery, and I believe him. I think his cab was CGI'd to appear to be there.
COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal[2], projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.
COINTELPRO tactics included discrediting targets through psychological warfare, planting false reports in the media, smearing through forged letters, harassment, wrongful imprisonment, and extralegal violence !!
Where are all the lawyers who lined up to defend the Gitmo detainees? Well we need them NOW!
9/11 was a false flag operation and many people got very rich from it. Do yourself a favor and get a copy of "ABLE DANGER" the novel at all major online stores worldwide. It tells how the White House accomplished their False Flag operation from their own words extracted from transcripts and White House aides.
I know of another instance, in an arena unrelated to 911, where a headless clone inserted, by trusted higher-ups, into an official photo had the same massive implications as does this one.
I want the answer to THIS question for the world to see....
If YOU believe that anyone can fake a video, then why should people believe YOUR videos aren't faked? They have YOUR stamp on them. Your name, your print..etc. So, why are YOU the end all, be all in video production?
The subject of your comment is not included in the domain of this video. Find one where it is.
This video is entirely self contained; all references used are mentioned.
The 911myths image is still there. Archive has pulled the ABC segment - nothing I can do about that, but you are welcome to prove it wrong if you find a copy.
Heck, that would be your first error, with only 3 to go...
Find 4 errors in your videos? As Ive said, you can't find error in something that isn't original in the first place. Because what you are showing, is altered material, by your own hand. Therefore, its already an error. Can't find something wrong, with what is already wrong. The number of comments on my channel ABOUT you..is great. The dislike is spreading.
@CNN911Fakes You didn't fake anything except your own perception of reality. You really expect people to believe that the bald black man carrying the plane debris is the same person as the WHITE photographer? And that the guy with his head down has his head cropped off by the van door? Both of those claims are just plain ridiculous and make you look like a fucking mental patient. You have issues son and you need some therapy.Or a job or a hobby or a friend....something.
I see you just dismiss people who disagree with you as "liars" and "shills". Debate me on air pal. Id LOVE it. Plus, I notice with all the videos you've put up, you have yet to put one up of you PERSONALLY speaking on 9/11 events. Guess it takes a real man to do that huh?
Visit 40 of my videos and leave messages proving it (no vulgarity, no profanity, no trolling nor spam).
If you find 4 material errors not previously found (previously found means a mention in annotations or the sidebar, material does not mean typing, choice of fonts, color, general video/image skills)
I will debate you on the video of your choice, so long it is not a known blocker/deleter for 1 hour some night.
So you figure the guy in the front's watch band is roughly the same color as the aluminum? The carrying strap closeup shows it is, in fact, more golden.
In America, back woods Louisiana guys are considered black, regardless of how close they are to the camera. Personally I think "mixed" should enter the American Emnglish lexicon, but we will probably continue to call them "black"
In three years of people looking at that image, you are the first to consider the clone white.
Guy #1 watch may be more 'golden' than aluminium but it is still far more silver thatn Guy #2. Also Guy #2 looks to be about 30-60 pounds heavier than Guy #1.
I could be wrong, maybe Guy #2 is Hispanic.
What does Louisiana have to do with this? I ain't from there. :)
""mixed" should enter the American Emnglish lexicon"
I'd rather have everyuone as just 'American'.
So, I'm one out of about a thousand that actually watched and picked out the possible mistakes?
Hello and thank you for all your efforts. It is obvious that there is tremendous foul play and fakery. I understand why some would agree that the two men look like clones and that given all the lies and BS we are on a heightened level of suspicion analysing images. However I have to agree that the two men are not the same person. This in my opinion is very apparent- just 2 that share skin tone and shaved head. Face not visible to conclusively and irrefutably determine that he is the same person.
Nope, I disagree. The edge of the door is clear. He is the right size for where he is close to the van covering the front section and there is no one else between him and the van.
His legs would have to be fully 1 foot longer than the guys between him and the camera for him to be close to them.
With your help, we will. When Joe Craine started working YouTube, he didn't know about the degree of TV fakery. Just bumped into because the shills worked so hard every time he got close.
YT suspended him forever, severly impacting his commenting days. The law of unintended consequences seems to have worked in our favor. Joe Craine maybe reached 20,000 people with comments.
Oh, and I also find it odd that a shadow from the dude's leg in PentagonDebris51 doesn't show up on the curb. His face looks a bit too pixelated, too, relative to the rest of the photo *and* to another version I have (in which his face is clearer) . What's the highest-res version you know of?
I don't need higher resolution on that one (35K is my best!)
It is a multi part composite. The best part is the drawing of the fuselage which, if you have a little imagination, looks like some space bat about to throw a handfull of coal at the guy.
The animators really tried to leave us clues - they were just too subtle!
but actually, she being a professional forensic crime scene photographer, she doesn't need to put the camera strap around her neck. She would never, ever screw up and drop the camera or any of those silly things non 911 forensic photographers do.
If you look carefully, you will find garu welz somewhere in that image!
No, it doesn't help me, only because for weeks now, every time I click on "more info", it goes to another screen rather than showing what's in the sidebar. Many thanks anyway, my brutha!
"I saw a big explosion, a ball of fire. My windows rattled and I looked out. There was a big ball of fire and there was smoke coming out. But I am looking at it right now. It missed the missed the navy annex. It missed the pentagon. It like missed so many the high rise buildings. It head past the parking lot. Oh, there's a cemetery behind the navy annex. I'm lookin at smoke right now."
Actually, that is why we should all have known it was a psyop by 9:03am 911 if we hadn't noticed the fact that the smoke was a different color depending on the view.
Aluminum really is that light. Imagine dropping a 14 inch hunk of structural steel on it!
Anyway, thanks for your constant support. Please help spread.
Huh, I dunno bout the dude double (could be twins) but those sure are some clean looking pieces of wreckage. The instantaneous clean up crew is bit bewildering.
This phone "eyewitness", a Mr. Gurmah (sp?), sounds like Lloyde England, driver of the famous "magic taxi" shown on the bridge in front of the Pentagon, purportedly damaged by a falling light pole "struck by the plane".
Lloyde was interviewed in depth. Short version: /watch?v=3GHM5f9lVho
Despite the photos, he repeatedly denied he and his cab were on the bridge. I used to think, "Er...duh!"
Now I understand TV Fakery, and I believe him. I think his cab was CGI'd to appear to be there.
nameofthepen 6 months ago
@nameofthepen Indeed
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal[2], projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.
COINTELPRO tactics included discrediting targets through psychological warfare, planting false reports in the media, smearing through forged letters, harassment, wrongful imprisonment, and extralegal violence !!
wellifthemediasaysit 10 months ago
They do this to create an argument. It makes anything that happens questionable. It really makes a path so anything can take place.
TheBelldiver 1 year ago
annoying font ffs.
ChristianHolloway7 1 year ago
1:02 Helipad PTZ IP Video Camera. Where is the footage? Where is the Pentagon ATC radar data?
CezEmm 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Where are all the lawyers who lined up to defend the Gitmo detainees? Well we need them NOW!
9/11 was a false flag operation and many people got very rich from it. Do yourself a favor and get a copy of "ABLE DANGER" the novel at all major online stores worldwide. It tells how the White House accomplished their False Flag operation from their own words extracted from transcripts and White House aides.
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abledangerbooktour(dot)com
TheAbledanger 2 years ago
oh its a shoop alright, i can tell from the pixels and having seen quite a few shoops in my time.
OrkotheAlien 2 years ago
This rocks. 5*s
I know of another instance, in an arena unrelated to 911, where a headless clone inserted, by trusted higher-ups, into an official photo had the same massive implications as does this one.
People don't like being fooled!
nameofthepen 2 years ago
whats this about??
dudes watch and bald head dont mean anything... its a haircut...
PEERAMIDEYE 3 years ago
I want the answer to THIS question for the world to see....
If YOU believe that anyone can fake a video, then why should people believe YOUR videos aren't faked? They have YOUR stamp on them. Your name, your print..etc. So, why are YOU the end all, be all in video production?
Why are YOU not fake, and everyone else is?
RandomHero1971 3 years ago
randomhero1971
Gosh, I didn't see the other 40 video comments!
The subject of your comment is not included in the domain of this video. Find one where it is.
This video is entirely self contained; all references used are mentioned.
The 911myths image is still there. Archive has pulled the ABC segment - nothing I can do about that, but you are welcome to prove it wrong if you find a copy.
Heck, that would be your first error, with only 3 to go...
If you could prove I faked it.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Find 4 errors in your videos? As Ive said, you can't find error in something that isn't original in the first place. Because what you are showing, is altered material, by your own hand. Therefore, its already an error. Can't find something wrong, with what is already wrong. The number of comments on my channel ABOUT you..is great. The dislike is spreading.
RandomHero1971 3 years ago
Nota bene: RandomHero1971 = suspended.
I guess he won't get to earn that debate. :-)
nameofthepen 2 years ago
@CNN911Fakes You didn't fake anything except your own perception of reality. You really expect people to believe that the bald black man carrying the plane debris is the same person as the WHITE photographer? And that the guy with his head down has his head cropped off by the van door? Both of those claims are just plain ridiculous and make you look like a fucking mental patient. You have issues son and you need some therapy.Or a job or a hobby or a friend....something.
gstanz67 5 months ago
randomhero1971
On your channel, you claim about
'the creators of the "9/11 Truth Movement"'
"They're proven liars"
Well, I am not a creator of the movement, but I have contributed a lot to proving TV fakery.
Find 4 lies in any of my 133 videos.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
I see you just dismiss people who disagree with you as "liars" and "shills". Debate me on air pal. Id LOVE it. Plus, I notice with all the videos you've put up, you have yet to put one up of you PERSONALLY speaking on 9/11 events. Guess it takes a real man to do that huh?
RandomHero1971 3 years ago
randomhero1971
Thanks for visiting, and, like more than 1300 before you, not finding any error in the video.
Senator Wellstone suggests I consider the murderers dangerous.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
But, you never said you'd debate me on the air. I await your answer.
RandomHero1971 3 years ago
randomhero1971
Here is my offer
I have 129 videos proving TV fakery.
Visit 40 of my videos and leave messages proving it (no vulgarity, no profanity, no trolling nor spam).
If you find 4 material errors not previously found (previously found means a mention in annotations or the sidebar, material does not mean typing, choice of fonts, color, general video/image skills)
I will debate you on the video of your choice, so long it is not a known blocker/deleter for 1 hour some night.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
A black guy has a white clone???
RetSquid 3 years ago
RetSquid
Which one do you figure is "black" and which is "white?"
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
It looks like the guy front left (with the silver watch band) is black and the guy in the center (with a gold watchband with his head down) is white.
Also the 'headless guy' by the van is just bent over looking down.
RetSquid 3 years ago
retsquid
So you figure the guy in the front's watch band is roughly the same color as the aluminum? The carrying strap closeup shows it is, in fact, more golden.
In America, back woods Louisiana guys are considered black, regardless of how close they are to the camera. Personally I think "mixed" should enter the American Emnglish lexicon, but we will probably continue to call them "black"
In three years of people looking at that image, you are the first to consider the clone white.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Guy #1 watch may be more 'golden' than aluminium but it is still far more silver thatn Guy #2. Also Guy #2 looks to be about 30-60 pounds heavier than Guy #1.
I could be wrong, maybe Guy #2 is Hispanic.
What does Louisiana have to do with this? I ain't from there. :)
""mixed" should enter the American Emnglish lexicon"
I'd rather have everyuone as just 'American'.
So, I'm one out of about a thousand that actually watched and picked out the possible mistakes?
RetSquid 3 years ago
retsquid
You figure my video skills are good enough to allow you to distinguish "not quite golden" from "really golden"
and
good enough for you to tell how much the clone weighs
yet
not good enough for you to see that the clone, like his original (actually, BTW, it is the other way around) is an American black?
The image is from 911 myths. Millions have seen it and commented. It is in a popular book as well
Your comments on the clone's race and the watch are no longer welcome here
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Wow, real observation just screws you up huh?
RetSquid 3 years ago
retsquid
Nope, spam and trolling (your first comment) combined with gross lies, "screws me up"
Bye.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Hello and thank you for all your efforts. It is obvious that there is tremendous foul play and fakery. I understand why some would agree that the two men look like clones and that given all the lies and BS we are on a heightened level of suspicion analysing images. However I have to agree that the two men are not the same person. This in my opinion is very apparent- just 2 that share skin tone and shaved head. Face not visible to conclusively and irrefutably determine that he is the same person.
playonwords55 2 years ago
If you can figure out an anonymous way to upload 85M, I will upload the stream.
I have the mpeg2, but that is 1G and I suspect doing that anonymously is impossible. Happy to try, though. Due to tracing, I don't do bittorrent.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
PilotsFor911Truth
Thanks.
The bad guys are paying attention! I see the streaming is, in deed, gone. That's why I tell everyone to back up everything they find.
If we can find someone who knows how to get the password protected files from archive, the mpeg is still there. I don't.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Beeswax80
Thanks, but, to answer your question..
For those involved, money and threats of physical harm/death.
For an unbelieveable number of uninvolved, cognitive disonance.
Please keep helping to erase it.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
it was more obvious durin the gulf war.. didnt think they'd take it this far tho...
dontcensormebro 3 years ago
Whenever an society gangs up to take away the rights of any minority, they help the true bastards take away those very rights from all of us.
Don't cooperate.
Thanks for visiting and commenting.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
we got owned by tv fakery
dontcensormebro 3 years ago
Is it the ladder on the fire truck that's lifting the rear wheel off the ground?
TungstenOrWolfram 3 years ago 2
what's that funky Africa-shaped shadow below the aluminum? is it a shadow? it looks more like a transparent splotch
TungstenOrWolfram 3 years ago
I think that the guy has a camera in his hand and thats the strap to the camera THEN a perp photoshopped the "debri" over the camera.
but the plane likes strap-ons! helps in penetration. lolololol!!!!!1
greatbenwa 3 years ago
oh wait, i get it...that's supposed to be the camera
TungstenOrWolfram 3 years ago 4
1plus8
I disagree that he is seriously far from the van.
I think he is right there next to the open van door.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
There is a halo around nike girl's face and hair on her right.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
1plus8
Nope, I disagree. The edge of the door is clear. He is the right size for where he is close to the van covering the front section and there is no one else between him and the van.
His legs would have to be fully 1 foot longer than the guys between him and the camera for him to be close to them.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
1plus8
So, from your perspective, the bending over guy with the black pants and white shirt is well this side of the van?
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
1plus8
I think I misunderstood your concern.
That person/man is certainly bending over.
The problem is that there is no room for his head between his shoulders and the van door.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
1plus8
I have looked at the image for well over 1 year. There is no room for his head there. Look at the open van door - some sort of small deal.
Did you look at the original?
Anyway, thanks for looking so carefully. We need to be right.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
The carrying strap in the agents hand is well spotted..Nice work.
NINEELEVENNEWS 3 years ago 4
Thanks NINEELEVENNEWS
Joe Craine spotted that and raised it last year, but, of course, the comments are gone!
Joe Craine is thining of going thru the old images and making videos.
The positive reaction to this one seems to confirm it as a good idea.
We are a little tired of watching TV - too much material!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Sazzylilsmartazz
With your help, we will. When Joe Craine started working YouTube, he didn't know about the degree of TV fakery. Just bumped into because the shills worked so hard every time he got close.
YT suspended him forever, severly impacting his commenting days. The law of unintended consequences seems to have worked in our favor. Joe Craine maybe reached 20,000 people with comments.
He has know reached nearly 100,000 with videos.
Please spread...hee, hee, hee...the video!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Oh, and I also find it odd that a shadow from the dude's leg in PentagonDebris51 doesn't show up on the curb. His face looks a bit too pixelated, too, relative to the rest of the photo *and* to another version I have (in which his face is clearer) . What's the highest-res version you know of?
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
Joe Craine doesn't seem to have that one. Do you have the exact file name (don't worry about folders)?
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
never mind, I got it
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
I don't need higher resolution on that one (35K is my best!)
It is a multi part composite. The best part is the drawing of the fuselage which, if you have a little imagination, looks like some space bat about to throw a handfull of coal at the guy.
The animators really tried to leave us clues - they were just too subtle!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
CNN911Fakes,
Maybe you could ask Joe what he makes of the seemingly odd shadow on the left sleeve of the person on the right in Pentagon debris 161?
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
Joe Craine laughed!
Said it looks like the other girl's necktie...
but actually, she being a professional forensic crime scene photographer, she doesn't need to put the camera strap around her neck. She would never, ever screw up and drop the camera or any of those silly things non 911 forensic photographers do.
If you look carefully, you will find garu welz somewhere in that image!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
WOW!
30 starz.
"You need to realize the piece was crime scene evidence, so they needed to amke sure it was easily portable to the next crime scene."
LOL
By the way, what's said in the background at 1:20?
@SorrosHelps
Make a tribute video to CNN911Fakes using "You Are The Wind Beneath My (concrete-and-steel-slicing) Wings" and I'll give it 7 stars!
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
apocalypsynch
Thanks for your support.
I have added a partial transcript to the sidebar. Does that help?
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
No, it doesn't help me, only because for weeks now, every time I click on "more info", it goes to another screen rather than showing what's in the sidebar. Many thanks anyway, my brutha!
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
apocalypsynch
v1:20 is within this quote from Mr. Gurma
"I saw a big explosion, a ball of fire. My windows rattled and I looked out. There was a big ball of fire and there was smoke coming out. But I am looking at it right now. It missed the missed the navy annex. It missed the pentagon. It like missed so many the high rise buildings. It head past the parking lot. Oh, there's a cemetery behind the navy annex. I'm lookin at smoke right now."
Fix your PC!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Thanks so much, brotherman, but I meant the short utterance from the guy in the background.
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
Ahhhhhh.
Back to the lstening posts.
I actually wondered about that myself! I will see if I can figure it out.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
apocalypsynch
I do not have the software for washing that recording and I don't have the skill to hear it.
That is not the only place where there are additional voices in the whole 41 minute segment.
Thanks for drawing my attention to it, but we need someone with far better skills than mine!
Sorry!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Thanks SorroHelps.
You need to realize the piece was crime scene evidence, so they needed to amke sure it was easily portable to the next crime scene.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Great video, friend! :)
ZotDudot7 3 years ago
Thanks. The image was one of Joe Craine's favorites.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Look Ma' NO HEAD!
GnosticNinja 3 years ago
suuperb.. keep it right up.
seekYEthetruth 3 years ago
Just keep saying nice things!
Encouragement is the currency of freedom.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Thanks For The Video Man.
CooLooN 3 years ago
the guy put no efford on his hand for the size of "debris" (like he didn't have anything in his hand)
merged 3 years ago
Thanks Merged.
Actually, that is why we should all have known it was a psyop by 9:03am 911 if we hadn't noticed the fact that the smoke was a different color depending on the view.
Aluminum really is that light. Imagine dropping a 14 inch hunk of structural steel on it!
Anyway, thanks for your constant support. Please help spread.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Thanks!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Huh, I dunno bout the dude double (could be twins) but those sure are some clean looking pieces of wreckage. The instantaneous clean up crew is bit bewildering.
GnosticNinja 3 years ago
I like the guy with no head!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago