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  • So obviously this horse is trained really well so it does nothing on showing us... WHICH MAKES THIS PPINTLESS AND USELESS!!! I've tried that technique but it's called a stuborn horse then what huh???? You simply try your best and once there still get up like seriously POINT-LESS.

  • What the hell this guy is soo stupid

  • I dont mount from the ground because I'm 5ft 3 and I ride a 16.3hh horse :L but I notice that when I get on my horse he instantly walks forward regardless of whether I've got my feet in the stirrups, reins properly gathered or even adjusted the girth a bit :/

  • Thank you for uploading this! I've been having so much trouble with my horse not wanting to stand. It's hard enough getting on with a saddle but I love bareback and can't do it with her because she won't let me get on. I'm definitely gonna try this.

  • Every time I go to get on my horse, he drops down as if he's going to roll, sometimes he does but sometimes he stops and gets back up. How do i stop this? I've checked his back I've checked the saddle, the bridle, his feet everything but there seems to be nothing wrong. Please help

  • Great vid and beautiful horse!!!

    My friends horse, when u try to get on her won't let her get near enough to the saddle to put her leg in, she just trots around and around and around while moving away. What should she do??

  • i have a 5 yr old Tn walker n she always walks off with me getting on .

    she wont trot or run just walk ... any tips? anyone ...shes real stubborn .

  • Good video. I have a dog training channel, but love to learn about other animals.

  • Mr. Rocha, While there is nothing at all wrong with what you demonstrate (I appreciate your good timing with releases), I would only add that some horses move off while being mounted due to back pain and/or poor saddle fit. My own horse started doing this, and I didn't know why. Turns out his saddle was a bit too big and thus twisted slightly as I mounted. The horse had lost weight and I didn't realize it had changed the saddle fit. I had the saddle adjusted and he improved.

  • my horse doesnt listen to the bit. It takes alot to stop her and she likes to go whatever speed she wants. but wen i ask her to go faster myself, she gets moody and pinns her ears and backs up, what do i do?

  • my horse doesn't necessarily walk off but she gets annoyed when people mount her and she pins her ears back and threatens to kick(but never really does). She never used to do this before, she also likes to throw her head when I take her bridle and halter off but has no problem with me putting it on and she never did this before...she started these bad habits around the same time. How can I teach her to be more tolerant of people mounting her?

  • @ilovecub1 I don't know everything about horses lol and I may be wrong but it sounds like maybe someone hit her teeth with the bit while they were taking the bridle off and it hurt so she remembers that and maybe that's why she throws her head while taking you are taking off her bridle?  Just a guess Idk. Good luck with your horse! :)

  • @ohiostategurl she does it with her halter too though I have no idea, I don't remember a time I ever hit her teeth and I am the only one who tacks her and untacks her...unless the person I was keeping her at rode her without my permission or took her halter off too rough.....she also started her bad mounting habit at the place also...

  • @ilovecub1 just wondering, have you checked your horses back (and shoulders, hips etc) for soreness, and have you had a dentist look at her teeth? she could be sore for any number of reasons, saddle fit being one of the most common reasons. and the behaviour you describe with her bridling sounds like her teeth might be causing her pain, more so when the bit is taken out then put in. just an idea anyway. good luck :)

  • @whitewingeddove soreness would have been my first guess but she has been doing it for 3 years now and she doesn't get ridden that often so I'm not sure what would make her sore and when i groom her on her back and hip area she doesn't seem bothered...as for her bridle she does it with her halter too which has nothing to do with her teeth I am starting to think she doesn't like her ears touched for some reason which she always loved her ears touched before, hopefully she wasn't hit in the face

  • Nicely done video...thank you

    I also like to look at giving the horse an opportunity to practice standing still, and if they do not want to stand still I will ask the horse to go left, change direction, stop, etc... for 2 min or so.Then give the horse an opportunity to stand still...and repeat if the horse moves off again. The horse becomes more responsive to the bit & leading at the same time. I also like to do this when the horse has been ridden for a bit, to allow them to be successful

  • Going to try this. My horse will not stand still while I mount. I know it is very dangerous to get on him while he is walking away, and by allowing him to do this for the past year or so, I have trained him to think this is ok. Thanks for the tip of backing him up every time he walks off.

  • Thanks for the good info...

  • Not bad !!

  • When I have one foot in the stirrup my horse starts turning the oppisite side I am standing on. What should I do?

  • @thekelseymonster First, determine the root problem that has caused the horse to act like this. Was it the rider's toe poking the horse in the ribs? Was it the left rein too tight? What ever the cause, eliminate it.

    Second, you can control the hip from moving away from you by pulling the off-side rein. Put the rein over the saddle horn like I demonstrate in the video. When the horse moves his hips away from you, pull the right rein until the hip stops moving.

    Good luck.

    Larry T.

  • @ltrocha I will try that next time I ride. Also, should I still put the reins over the horn even if I'm not using split reins?

  • @ltrocha i wrote on your wall so please read it. it will explain everthing.

  • I usally just back the horse up untill it dosnt wanna back no more on the ground. and it usally works.

  • how would u train a horse to turn or stop though

  • you talk to much you need more demonstration

  • what do i do since my horse side passes away from me every time i try to get in???

  • when i ride my horse he like to buck me off when i kick his sides to go and he does not like anyone else to ride him what should i do

  • I've got a jumper that does this, but he isn't trained for western. Could I use a bit like that with an English bridle or would I have to use something else?

  • @xxWolfofDarknessxx That bit is a common snaffle. It's used in the English world just as it is in the Western disciplines.

  • @xxWolfofDarknessxx I've always ridden english and always used a gentle snaffle bit.

  • Your right the reins were tight because he use to move forward when I tried to mount him and as soon as I get on him he wants to go forward Thanks for all your advise

  • Ok thanks but my guy keeps backing up when I try to get on What can I do?

  • @Snakeiz12 First, make sure your reins are not tight and forcing him back.

    As soon as your butt hits the saddle, aggressively ride your horse forward.

    Keep this up and the backing will disappear.

    Larry T.

  • I've been riding a long time and never knew that such a simple technique could hsve such a result. Will try it next time.

  • hi i am from mexico and i see that here in us you are the best to lease horses with minimum effort tomake the horse do what you want and the best part is that the horse enjoys it the only think the i do not like is the that horse always had his head down is possible that the horse has his head up and continue to have an exellent tent

  • @fidelpecoso head down means he is a lower rank than you.

  • thanks. I had no idea how to stop my horse from moving. great video...

  • I have a greenbroke filly that stands completely still once theres some sort of weight in the stirrup, but untill that moment she tends to move away. How would I get her to completely stand still, and not just stand still when there's some weight involved? When she moves, I do move her until she stands still again.

  • excellent tips!

  • What do you do with a horse that spins out when you try to mount?

  • i think you should make that horse spin untll it stands still.

  • My horse is like a rock when I mount but when I try to get him to stop when I'm riding he doesn't listen. I've switched bits and went to a hackamore once too and he did okay with the hackamore but then he stopped truning so I went back to the bit and if I ride him with his halter he's perfect and stops when I tell him to.

  • @Horse1245456156 have you taught him to give to bit pressure? he would be more likely to understand the halter because he's been trained to with leading. Maybe try and use a halter with a bridle over top and when stopping use both, then do it without pulling on the leadrope, if he stops and gives to the bit, reward him. It takes time!

  • Thanks I never thought of that and I was 11 when I trained him so he doesn't have alot of training he just does the basics, walk trot canter turn backup and kinda stops lol.

  • it would've been a better teaching video if he used a horse that gave him more trouble. "Here let me show you how I teach guitar, this is how you teach Eddie Van Halen how to play a really easy song!"

  • I use to do the same thing with my greenbroke filly.

    She was a handful but I sure do miss her.

  • its a cutting saddle and its made to get a good grip with your hand so you wont fall offf/

  • Hi,

    Thanks for the tips. I've tried but now my horse is completely frantic about being mounted and as soon as I start positioning the reins he starts prancing around and I tried getting my foot in the stirrup but he galloped off. How do I calm him?

    Many thanks for your advice,

    Elise

    Switzerland

  • they kinda work but if they take a step before ur on them backthem up on the ground dont wait until ur on but other than that good tips

  • All the stuff you describe are simply your horse's "evasion tactics".

    It's your job to counter act those evasions.

    Basically, make each evasion attempt very uncomfortable for your horse and she'll quit.

  • but what if the horse does more than just walk forward? my horse will even turn in place so her body is away from me. THEN she starts walking forward and past me. sometimes she even backs up when im trying to get on her.

  • beautiful bay...

  • Thanks for the tips. They work! PS: Great lookin horse.

  • This really works I did it with my horse and after a little while he got the hang of it.

  • haha that would be easy

    if my horse were that size

    he's 16.2hh O.O so I need a block to get on him

    it would be pretty hard to back him up that way with a mounting block in the picture

    good video nonetheless!

  • After getting on the horse, how do you keep them from biting your foot?

  • Bump his mouth with your foot, but B4 u discipline him that way, check and make sure he's not trying to tell you something that way. I have an Arabian that does the same thing. She would never bite hard enuf 2 hurt, but sometimes when she gets impatient, instead of doing something bad, like walking off, or dancing around, (things she would get in trouble for), she uses this method 2 ASK me politely & respectfully, "Can we go now?"

  • Now go to second step , after getting on the horse. How do you keep them from biting your foot....LOL I think she likes the taste of my boot a little to much.

  • Nice tips and a very good looking horse!

  • Wow, wish I knew this when my friend had her horse that kept walking off.

  • thank you for the help on this! my horse HATES to stand still, but instead of walking frowards, she turns to try and face me. Also, she's 17hh and i can't mount from the ground so i use a block, but she's scared of that too. Any ideas?

  • Hey Larry, my wife and I are big fans, we have most of your videos. I hope that you can post more tips like this one.

  • IT"S A CUTTING SADDLE!! The horn is designed to be easy to grab and hold on to. Otherwise the rider would fly right off when the horse is cutting a cow. Larry Trocha specializes in training cutting and riening horses.

  • its a long horn saddle

  • Haha, oh right ! well i guess it kinda does, maybe it's just a strange brand or something like that lol.

  • Western Saddle and Bridle.

  • the horses i ride NEVER walk foward when i mount i have ridden horses on trails and when you mount them the start to walk off but sometimes you arent mounting correctly sometime it can happen if you pull the saddle way over

  • My new horse is well broke, but the previous owner allowed her to walk off while getting on. I have not ridden her yet as I am not going to get on until I work out this bad habit. She not only backs up, goes sideways, but if she does happen to stand still, she stomps her back foot, hard.

    ANY ADVICE???

    I used the technique you gave although i didn't place the rains from as you did to back him up. I just had her back about 4 steps each time.

    Meri

  • maybe start working her a little so she can release all that energy and then she will have patience,, wats that thing that they run in circle .. i only know it in spanish. is it called lunging.. yeah something like that.. not that tiried though just enough for her to be relaxed when you mount her...

  • I may be a little cheesy but I usually do groundwork (lounging) before I get on. It takes the edge off. And I always lounge before getting onto an unfamiliar horse.

  • @moodysoup i do that sometimes i just put her in the round pen (w/ out a loung) i clap at her n i run her around for a few minutes but she still acts up

  • @moodysoup I always refresh my horse's memory by doing some groundwork. It also tells me how good she is of a listener on that day. She's 3 and tends to get stubborn at times, it helps a lot! I think it's a great thing that you do this!

  • Great video, Larry. Maybe you could add some more vids.

    Mitja, Slovenia, Europe.

  • Hey great Video.

    But i have a horse that backs up all the time i give her a loose rein but all she does is go backwards this is when i lift my leg to get on and even when i have a step to get on with all she does is back up.

    Any advice?

    Thanks

  • Yes, do the exact opposite of what I say in the video.

    Step up on your horse the best you can and then immediately make her go forward.

    She'll eventually quite backing.

  • what a pretty horse!

  • Who are you? You shouldn't have to kick your horse to get him to move. But, if that's how you train yours i'm sorry. I click or kiss with my mouth and tighten my legs a little and let the reins slightly loose. Duh? As far as how he's doing this i guess it works for him. We have been dealing with this from my mare. We just get the horse to run if she won't stand to mount. Then she gets the idea oh if i stand here while they mount then i won't have to work right away. Simple, easy, and effective!

  • wats so bad about kicking him a little.. everyone has there own way and i don't know whats the point of not kicking him when mounted.. Gosh so strict over here///

  • Oh there's nothing wrong with it. But, when I ride my horse if I did that to her she would take off at a full run. Or you'd get one heck of a flying lesson. You just can't do that to any horse I guess was my point. : )

  • You know all horses are different. Will your horse obey to stop or can't stop her at all? If you can't stop her then that's a problem.

  • Oh yeah she will stop. I think the people that had her before me abused her or didn't fully train her cuz she spooks but at least it's in place.

  • i want to learn to riein....

  • thank you ... fantastic

    my new horse does this all the time..

  • My horse always moves faward when i try to mount but over all shes great! Does any one know what to do about aggressive horses?

  • i need help with that too. A horse I ride hates other horses lol

  • My Appendix Quarter Horse always tries to go any direction possible not only forward. Sometimes he bolts bckwards.

  • Have you vet checked him? It might be a reaction to pain. Either way, to prevent this, you don't... kick him or act like he's a barbie doll as has been suggested, but you actually rein him around and make him go stand where you had him before. If you get his head turned around, he's going to more than likely reverse directions; ie, going forward.

    A bit of heel pressure and a firm voice, using your SEAT to drive him forward, and you'll have a problem solved.

  • everyone needs to get off their horse and start doing some serious groundwork to gain your horses respect.  I had a horse that was almost out fo control, once we established good groundwork she has nothing but respect for me. She does only what I ask of her, no more- no less.

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